Cenk=Socialist nut job nuff said love how he just shuts the other person down with out listening he did the same thing with Peter Schiff he won't let them talk no more than he tries to defend his stupidity it would be nice of him to let the other person finish their case before he tries to say his
The part that annoyed me most about this caller was when Cenk said 'I never liked John Edwards and the caller didn't believe him because he had a lot of OTHER democrats supported him. So because some completely different people supported John Edwards that proves Cenk supports him too? And this moron tells Cenk that HE sounds stupid. The caller is a FUCKING..... RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This fella wants to scream and say stupid when it's his turn but talk over the response and get upset when Cenk responds in a much more elegant fashion. He implies Palin is dull and dangerous to be in power, then the caller just starts yelling.
I love how he calls McCain stupid for making Palin his VP. The person running for office doesn't choose their VP, a group of people choose people that could be right for VP, and then basically force them to make the person they pick their VP..
this caller is an idiot. Defending Sarah? are you kidding. Democrats can't win but Sarah is a Multi-millionaire? what does money have to do with being an intelligent leader? But the caller does have a point. since Sarah is such an idiot, why does media spend time talking about her. Exactly, please stop talking about her just because it is a short news day.
this caller is an idiot. Defending Sarah? are you kidding. Democrats can't win but Sarah is a Multi-millionaire? what does money have to do with being an intelligent leader?
@pandasftuw Except that Charlie Sheen is no longer a working actor, he is also not an idiot like Palin, just crazy. Sarah Palin SHOULDN'T have any relevance in politics, but sadly she does and to a disturbing degree.
@pandasftuw It's irrelevant, it is fun to jest over the idiocy of public figures, be it Charlie Sheen or Sarah Palin, if they do something stupid they will be mocked. Deal with it.
The last portion of Cenk's argument was amazing. Ppl who disagree with TYT (which I can imagine there being ALOT)'s general views should at least keep in mind that they generally aren't obsessed with defending the side that they agree with. They actually have their own views and perspective, and base their criticism and support based on those, rather than what political ideology they like to stick with. They obviously criticize Republicans but NEVER suck up to Democrats, which can be very easy.
@G41MCombo You're just hating cause a cultured, reasonable black man is your president and you're incensed because you are a dumb racist homophobe blowjob and that man doesn't represent you and you can't scapegoat minorities anymore for your intellectual inferiority and you'd rather go with a hockey mom who has the IQ of an Alpaca and who can see Putin from her outhouse. You sir are TRASH.
@lozoft9 american president is but a monkey jumping from branches avoiding the main issues and concentrating on gay topics which no one really cares about.
I think it's hilarious that this guy doesn't realize that Cenk doesn't give a crap about the whole Democrat vs. Republican thing... He just wants what's best for the vast majority of people. This guy doesn't listen to a thing that Cenk says, because he's so wrapped up in his own point, he cant hear the answers that are being given. TYT are not about the Democratic party, they are about the people. More specifically, the people that don't have deep enough pockets to be heard in today's world.
@58fenix Yeah, but "Democrat" and "Liberal" aren't the same at all. Democrats do not always represent the liberal philosophy. Furthermore, Cenk is a self-proclaimed "Progressive."
No, the caller does NOT have a good point. It seems like the caller has some sort of "sympathy" for the loser of the VP race, but does he understand what disaster could have struck the US if she had been chosen? That's what Cenk was making fun of. What a ridiculous fucker that caller was.
And what is the race of the founding fathers posterity according to your made up version of history? How could a bunch of white people have non-white posterity?
@cgord31 They were not considered Americans before the Civil Rights Act, that's how. Read a history book, fucktard. America was founded by white people and for white people. Pull yourself together and try to deal with it. So have you figured out what race the founders posterity are in your version of "history"? Maybe they are pygmies or aborigines or black muslims who hate white people? Would that make you feel better about yourself?
@DollaBiIIz You got wax in your ears? Your not even listening to what i'm saying. When you re connect with reality message me back otherwise don't bother. I don't enjoy debating facts with a brick wall. Especially a racist brick wall
@cgord31 I answered every one of your false historical claims with the real true history of our country. Find one thing that you were right about and I was wrong about. You embarassed yourself by making up lies about American history and got PWNED by someone who knows the real history. Go read a history book and then come back when you think you are ready.
@DollaBiIIz PWND?? Ha Ha you're such a dork. Again, touch base with reality then we can talk. All my claims are true and yours are false. Deal with it fagot.
@cgord31 OK, dumb ass. Prove your claim that the founders of America were not white people. And prove your claim that the posterity of the founders of America are not white people. Either back up your story or admit that you made those lies up.
Why is it that anti-white racists can't ever let white people get the credit for what we have accomplished. The problem with giving everybody in the world credit for founding America is that somebody actually did found America and those people deserve to get the credit for founding our country. Just because you don't like the color of the founders skin does not give you the right to make up your own founders and scoff at the legacy of our founding fathers.
People should have to take an intelligence test before they can vote. Anybody who can't read at a 3rd grade level or do simple addition and subtraction or who has no idea where America came from should be forbidden from voting.
"Look we got no interest in backing all Democrats because they're Democrats, whereas you guys apparently have an interest in defending Sarah Palin because she's a Republican."
What happened to small government? If you ask me that seems Totalitarian, at least to some extent. In a Democracy, people are given the privilege to question their leaders. That's why I like TYT. I think the show isn't always reasonable against Conservatives and Republicans, but they actually /think/ on this program.
the reason intelligent commentators like to mock Sarah Palin is because even though she cost McCain the election, her uneducated supporters still insist on placing her on a pedestal despite accomplishing nothing
Yet another repub walking around with a full chubby, simply THRILLED that they have a woman in their party that, you know, kind of looks like a woman.
Oh, and when she winks it's not directed to you, you morons. Down boys. It's actually a muscle spasm brought on everytime she gets confused. Alrighty, you BETCHA!
@DollaBiIIz LOL what makes you think he "Hates" Americans? Back to Turkey? How do you know he's even been to Turkey? Just because he's not white he's not American? I'm I talking to Sarah Palin?
@DollaBiIIz Fuck are you stupid. You can be Turkish and still be American, one is a race and the other is a country. Not the same thing retard. Just like you can be Irish American or Chinese American or even Iranian American. America is made up of many different cultures weather you like it or not.
@DollaBiIIz Wow! Really? That answer is so void of intelligence, I don't even no where to begin. 1st off America was founded on immigration from MANY nations including Japan, India, UK, Germany and yes Turkey, just to name a few. To say that America was founded by white people for white people is so ridiculous. Statements like that expose your utter lack of intellect. You need to work on that if you ever want anyone to take you seriously.
@cgord31 Yes, really ignorant idiot. History is already written down in books. It isn't a story that you just make up because it makes you feel good about yourself. White people founded America not "immigrants from many nations". What are the names of the Turkish, Indian, and Japanese founders of America? Because the founders names are written in the books. And they wrote that they founded it for their posterity. That means white people in case you don't know what "posterity means".
I said America is founded on Immigration. Meaning the principles of immigration. Not once did I say the founding fathers were Indian or Japanese you dumb fuck. But those ethnicities that I mentioned have been immigrating here for over a hundred years and you've got the lack of brain cells to actually suggest that they're not American? The fact that you think posterity means white people shows how mentally challenged you actually are. Look up Posterity douche bag, you just might learn something
@cgord31 America was founded by white people and for white people. Deal with it dumbass. It wasn't " founded on immigration from MANY nations including Japan, India, UK, Germany and yes Turkey", moron. America only allowed white immigration for over 100 years. You had to be white to be a citizen of America. Read a book instead of making up stories liar. You might learn something.
@DollaBiIIz Are you kidding me? You actually believe that crap you just wrote down? Are you some sort of skin head KKK? America was absolutely founded on the basis of immigration. Without immigration America would not be very powerful at all. It was the only way to rapidly increase the population in order to compete with the other powerful nations of the world. Read a history book you ignorant fool.
The guy Cenk is debating with is a fucking moron. They slam on Obama and the democrats ALL THE TIME. Even though they are liberal, they try to be fair to both sides, either when it comes to glorifying good ideas or demonizing the bad ideas. They are not all democrat all the time, unlike this idiot who clearly is straight-up republican and will support any republican candidate even if they believe that Africa is a country. What a fucking moron.
Did you know "race car" spelled backwards still spells race car?
The word "eat" is the only word that, if you take the 1st letter and move it to the last, spells its past tense – ate?
And if you rearrange the letters in "Tea Party Republicans" and add just a few more letters, it spells: "Shut-up, you free-loading, progress-blocking, Loughner-loving, homophobic, resource-sucking, racist, hypocritical jerks, and face the fact that you capsized the country under Bush"?
this caller seems to subscribe to the Bill OReilly school of talking with someone -- Be REALLY LOUD and assign the beliefs of an entire political party to the person you're talking with.
Sarah Palin deserves to be mocked and destroyed because in this dark time in our country, when people are jobless and losing their homes and our economy is shit and our politicians are all liars, frauds and bought by the wealthy, this nitwit, Sarah Palin quits her job, makes millions of dollars, has thousands of loyal supporters... And she is a fucking idiot. She is a brick with hair. She doesn't deserve to have a good life when so many others are suffering. She is garbage.
Im amazed Sarah can wipe her own ass. Id have to see proff that she can do it. Ive known kids that road the special buss that where smarter then that dingy bitch. Run Sarah run. Forest Gump would have been augh struck at her stupidity.
@cwongchung Cenk is still too hot blooded to face O'Reilly. Ben is more suited. Its actually physically impossible to debate Bill O. see the Ron Paul video. at best you can get interviewed and interrogated by him. Obama and Jon Stewart did the best so far.
He is beyond stupid. We like talking about Sarah Palin because she is still trying to get into politics but yet still manages to spectacularly fail at everything.
He sounds scary!! Kinda like he's an idiot stalker. Palin IS an idiot. I will never forget her calling Africa a country....lol.....good times...or, not knowing why there were two Koreas....lol
Cenk FINALLY nails it at the end; this caller expects Progressives to automatically defend each & every liberal candidate. That is what conservatives do, not most liberals. Conservatives seem to think of politics like sports where you have to defend the guys on your team no matter how many co-eds he might rape
Now, Progressive POSITIONS I will debate until my dying breathe. Politicians you will find right under the bus where I left them
I don't think the caller was defending Palin. He was more worried that the news orgs were spending too much time talking about her, and not real issues. And I agree that most mainstream media does that. TYT, however, are not mainstream, and cover all issues, and all parties. Cenk rules.
@FamousLastWords443 Yes, but you know, the mainstream media are not really about politic or economy... They are also about popular sh***, so Sarah Palin and Paris Hilton have some commons things.
Yeah, I'd agree that the caller was arguing that a focus on Sarah Palin would cause the liberals slash Democrats to fail in getting their own message out.
Hmm... seems funny how Cenk did not even answer much of his questions... plus, it is funny how the caller said "yes" after Cenk was saying Sarah Palin is stupid. hahahaha
That was 'the people's elbow' right there, followed by a 'Tombstone'! That's how you've got to take it to those pricks. Trying to have a civil debate with a right-wing moron, is the definitive exercise in futility!
I sort of want Palin to get elected just so she can make a mess of it and all her dumbass, redneck followers can watch the train wreck and see how stupid their decision to support her is.
@pnollen Sarah Palin writes a few notes on her hand to jog her memory and that's a major story while the president can't decide whether or not to go to the bathroom if it is'nt written on a telaprompter. Obama inherits a government already in debt & he responds to this with more debt. We have entitlements we can't afford so,of course,he adds another massive entitlement program that we can't afford. And let's not forget imposing added taxes & regulations on a bad economy. Who's the idiot again?
I don't disagree necessarily with that, but she makes Bush and Obama look like Einstein compared to her. The only reason she is even relevant is because McCain subjected her onto this country. If you want real change in 2012, Ron Paul is the only candidate who's going to change course from what the Republicans and Democrats are doing to this country.
@rmccay88 I agree 100% about Ron Paul. I think that he can win the general election. His problem is that the republican party may turn to Palin or Romney(gasp) or any number of 2nd raters instead of Paul. and without a major party nomination,he goes nowhere.
I think the question the caller had was more of why doesn't msnbc talk more about helping the democrats or talking about why they're losing, rather then wasting time on making jokes about sarah palin.
@myimaginaryhero Yeah. He did ask that. But Cenk kept telling the caller that he can't speak for any of them; and that the caller did not follow TYT. Any avid viewer of TYT knows that they bash on anyone, and that's because this is an opinion show, not news.
MSNBC does cover much of Democratic woes. Palin is covered because she's a pivotal figure in the Tea Party movement. The caller just has beef with Palin bashing. It's his opinion, nothing else. He made no compelling argument for his case.
Supporting politicians for their stance without questioning them individually... If that's what Republicans have a tendency to do like Cenk said, that seems pretty Totalitarian to me. Isn't that ironic? Same thing with the "don't criticize the president during wartime." The reason why Nazi Germany and the USSR were so destructive was because no one questioned what their leaders were doing, or at least they weren't allowed to. If this is coming from the people in a free country, that's sad.
i love you for this cenk. and its so strikingly representive how the caller accuses cenk or tyt of being everything that he, the caller, associates with the democrats xD
This guys is just playing the them vs. us game.. if one person on the other side said something they must all believe it.. give me a break, if you want to play that game go for it.. but realized nothing gets solved and definitely no way to come to a middle ground when you have that world view..
How Cenk has grown.He is so calm when he talks to this guy and always has the right thing to say when he replyes.I was watching some old clips of him debating and it looked like one of Bill O'Reilly interviews.See you can get your point out with not screaming like a douchbag.Cenk your are an inteligent man,so act like one.Treat your debating opponents with respect even if they are idiots.
@torca1950ancola well i think he did treat him with respect. that guy had just no idea what he was talking about so i can understand cenk when he gets pissed off repeating his points over and over again.
the called didnt understand one thing..cenk said tht as well y thy talk about sarah palin so much..because its damn funny..tht bitch is freakin moron..this show doesnt talk about politics only, this show is about entertainment as well..i m a litsener frm like 2 years now n i luv the humour on the show. politics is awesome as well bt still humour makes it the best show online 2 watch..sarah palin is dumb idiotic person who does stuff so that ppl can make fun of her..
Wow, Cenk's handling was really cool here, he let the guy speak and when was interrupted while responding, didnt go into frenzy like all Conservative hosts do.
Btw, funny, the Cons do that all the time: they downplay Palin, saying they wonder why anybody's taking an interest in her, and the second she's attacked, they start to defend her like she really matters.
Pleeeeease, you either think she isnt worth media time, or that she is. Not both at the same time. Typical.
this guy is just another wihte rascict defending his own kind fuck we dont care about palin i understand that she lost ok but why is she still on the fuckin newspapers
and shows if she lost she should be more like mcain and sit her fuckin ass down
im not a cenk fan much but on this man im with you all the way the caller is just wanting to get embarresed
I feel Cenk missed many great chances to make an intelligent rebuttal and instead offered cheap shots. I am behind him all the way, I agree with him, but his debating skills could use an improvement.
For example: The caller asks, "... why do you care about Sarah Palin and her daughter?"
Because they go around saying homosexuals are bad for children, I care about them because they slander my friends.
Totally legit response, Cenk didn't make it. Next time I hope.
@fpt215 lol i do believe you're the only dumb one here! it WAS Sarah Palin vs Barack Obama AND John McCain was in it too! there were 3 people running for president this time but i guess you got your news a bit too late huh
You want government to "tuck you in bed at night". Feed you. Clothe you. Let's see what else? Government's only real responsibility is to provide for the common defense. Anything else it provides is a convenience which is subject to review and yes possibly withdrawal. It takes far more courage to be a Conservative than a Liberal. Sarah is here to stay and so is my support for her. Since you move away from the founders and Constitution you can't be an American.
Yeah, out of all the political media outlines out there TYT is by far the most unbias, i have seen them shame both sides and give great turly fair and blanced commentary on both sides, a little left wing bias only because the left wing is always slamed in this country, so they have to in order to make it fair. IMHPP cenk calls himself a moderate, i call him a progessive consevative.
The host of this show is a total moron. He is like all Liberals, who only call names and point fingers but can't back up their accusations with any facts. All he says about why he doesn't like Sarah is "she's a moron." Really? Why? Clearly she is not. Governor of Alaska, has a best selling book, etc. And she's a moron? At least she can use a few notes on her hand, whereas Obama can't give one speech without a teleprompter. Really? Liberals are so effing backwards. USE FACTS, MORON.
oh and the old teleprompter insult....Bush was a trainreck without one, also. At least he was hilarious when his train derailed. Bush had a sense of humor....I'll give him that
one more thing.....why the hell do you and your conservative buddies insist on calling her governor? You truly think we will forget that she left her elected post to chase the money that poor suckers like you will throw at her? Well, she's now laughing all the way to the bank....with YOUR hard-earned money. Isn't capitalism great?
ratings...we are an obsessive culture with celebs and that is what SHE IS..so when people talk about her..it brings in ratings ..that is what is about...
I love that Sarah Palin murders wolves. And she is the Tea Party icon. And the dumb confused Republicans don't know what to do because they only know how to do what they are told. Go sign a DD form 4 contract moron, and learn the real meaning of your enslavement. Lol.
poor angry deluded man! he just can't understand why it's so embarrassing that a politician that aspires leadership of this country and that his party has vetted as qualified for the job needs to write on her hand talking points like someone trying to cheat for a test that they have not prepared for...
strawmaning conservative with zero point? Sounds exactly like any creationist with the agreement "why do atheists obsesses over god so much if they don't believe in him".
I still find it amazing that people talk about left / right when there is only one leftist in the US (Bernie Sanders) and people would actually be much better if there were more people like him. He is the biggest "from the people for the people" type of politician around.
I'm just thinking you might be a LITTLE bit afraid of Sarah, seeing as she's the white, female version of Obama. Both inexperienced. The only difference? Obama's the charismatic typical dem.
Cenk: We do it for the LULZ.
EstoppelFox 1 week ago
John's argument: "YOUR stupid is debilitating. OUR stupid is adorable."
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Does that sink have a garbage disposal?
Mattthemangler 1 month ago
Cenk=Socialist nut job nuff said love how he just shuts the other person down with out listening he did the same thing with Peter Schiff he won't let them talk no more than he tries to defend his stupidity it would be nice of him to let the other person finish their case before he tries to say his
Mattthemangler 1 month ago
@Mattthemangler Go back to watching fox news kid, this show is for adults and rational minded only.
Stingerbillion 3 weeks ago
LMAO: "LOSER IDIOT MORON"
nfdmw 2 months ago
The part that annoyed me most about this caller was when Cenk said 'I never liked John Edwards and the caller didn't believe him because he had a lot of OTHER democrats supported him. So because some completely different people supported John Edwards that proves Cenk supports him too? And this moron tells Cenk that HE sounds stupid. The caller is a FUCKING..... RETARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zzzzzz2408 2 months ago
This fella wants to scream and say stupid when it's his turn but talk over the response and get upset when Cenk responds in a much more elegant fashion. He implies Palin is dull and dangerous to be in power, then the caller just starts yelling.
LXQUICKJUSTICE 4 months ago
lmfao
dabeaner12345 7 months ago
Nice suit, Cenk.
HowToGetFreebies 7 months ago in playlist TYT Favorites Part 2
I love how he calls McCain stupid for making Palin his VP. The person running for office doesn't choose their VP, a group of people choose people that could be right for VP, and then basically force them to make the person they pick their VP..
Tenmachi 7 months ago
"If Sarah Palin vs. Barack Obama. who do you vote for right now?" - cenk
"Excuse me?" - dumbass
Bankallday 7 months ago
this caller is an idiot. Defending Sarah? are you kidding. Democrats can't win but Sarah is a Multi-millionaire? what does money have to do with being an intelligent leader? But the caller does have a point. since Sarah is such an idiot, why does media spend time talking about her. Exactly, please stop talking about her just because it is a short news day.
assemblyguy 7 months ago
this caller is an idiot. Defending Sarah? are you kidding. Democrats can't win but Sarah is a Multi-millionaire? what does money have to do with being an intelligent leader?
assemblyguy 7 months ago
Cenk - 1
John from Pheonix - 0
Nuff'Said.
Marisun69 8 months ago 14
The caller doesn't understand that people can be objective. Ridiculous.
theswaggle 8 months ago
"All politicians are liars." It's just that I would rather a smart politician than an idiot(sarah palin).
hHhahaahaha republicans. Sarah palin is your best???!!!! really? hahaah
noobmaster31 9 months ago
I agree she is fucking irrelevant just shut the fuck up about her
pandasftuw 10 months ago
@pandasftuw She is relevant when she is still getting national news and continues to be politically active and influential. Now shut your pie hole.
MountHappy 10 months ago
@MountHappy so does charlie sheen that does not make him relevant to the field of acting
if you think sarah palin has any relevance in actual politics you need help
pandasftuw 10 months ago
@pandasftuw Except that Charlie Sheen is no longer a working actor, he is also not an idiot like Palin, just crazy. Sarah Palin SHOULDN'T have any relevance in politics, but sadly she does and to a disturbing degree.
MountHappy 10 months ago
@MountHappy she is no longer a working politican, your confusing politics and media
pandasftuw 10 months ago
@pandasftuw It's irrelevant, it is fun to jest over the idiocy of public figures, be it Charlie Sheen or Sarah Palin, if they do something stupid they will be mocked. Deal with it.
MountHappy 10 months ago
The last portion of Cenk's argument was amazing. Ppl who disagree with TYT (which I can imagine there being ALOT)'s general views should at least keep in mind that they generally aren't obsessed with defending the side that they agree with. They actually have their own views and perspective, and base their criticism and support based on those, rather than what political ideology they like to stick with. They obviously criticize Republicans but NEVER suck up to Democrats, which can be very easy.
hirothemouse 10 months ago
He's like godammit why are we agreeing this is bullshit!
WIleyCubScout 11 months ago
Ok, how many other people laughed when the picture of Palin at the podium with Gay Lord written on it popped up? Seriously! XD
Tarynus 11 months ago
palin still has more balls than that gay ass pounding monkey occupying America's top seat.
G41MCombo 11 months ago
@G41MCombo You're just hating cause a cultured, reasonable black man is your president and you're incensed because you are a dumb racist homophobe blowjob and that man doesn't represent you and you can't scapegoat minorities anymore for your intellectual inferiority and you'd rather go with a hockey mom who has the IQ of an Alpaca and who can see Putin from her outhouse. You sir are TRASH.
lozoft9 11 months ago 4
@lozoft9 american president is but a monkey jumping from branches avoiding the main issues and concentrating on gay topics which no one really cares about.
G41MCombo 11 months ago
@G41MCombo lol dude the monkey thing is so outdated, get a new racist joke.
psunny24ify 10 months ago
@19d4life If thats your idea of what the majority of muslims are like then I feel sorry for u bro
Ignorance is bliss
EkteBoy 11 months ago
@19d4life Another guy blaming Islam *sigh*
EkteBoy 11 months ago
I think it's hilarious that this guy doesn't realize that Cenk doesn't give a crap about the whole Democrat vs. Republican thing... He just wants what's best for the vast majority of people. This guy doesn't listen to a thing that Cenk says, because he's so wrapped up in his own point, he cant hear the answers that are being given. TYT are not about the Democratic party, they are about the people. More specifically, the people that don't have deep enough pockets to be heard in today's world.
apersonsname1 11 months ago 53
@apersonsname1 Yeah your right about somethings but he is still a liberal.
58fenix 9 months ago
@58fenix Yeah, but "Democrat" and "Liberal" aren't the same at all. Democrats do not always represent the liberal philosophy. Furthermore, Cenk is a self-proclaimed "Progressive."
apersonsname1 8 months ago
@apersonsname1 Ya know I hear that all the time conservative is
not a republican,liberal is not a democrate.They are all the same.
It does'nt change the fact he is a liberal.I normally ever hear him
attacking democrates.Its moslty republicans,he also is working
for msnbc so that should tell you something.
58fenix 8 months ago
@58fenix Ha ha, you must just look for the ones that says Republicans in the title. Cenk bashes Democrats all the time on TYT and on MSNBC.
visini14 6 months ago
@visini14 You show me prove,a lot of prove.
58fenix 6 months ago
I wish I could have a couple of drinks with Cenk.
Cheers Cenk!
thesicilianguitarist 11 months ago 3
No, the caller does NOT have a good point. It seems like the caller has some sort of "sympathy" for the loser of the VP race, but does he understand what disaster could have struck the US if she had been chosen? That's what Cenk was making fun of. What a ridiculous fucker that caller was.
Knightmare2k6 11 months ago
I have to say, the caller has some good points. Still...because shes an idiot, lol.
Brolly1142 11 months ago
And what is the race of the founding fathers posterity according to your made up version of history? How could a bunch of white people have non-white posterity?
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz If immigration was not part of the birth of America, then how come we have 6th and 7th generation Americans that AREN'T WHITE.
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 They were not considered Americans before the Civil Rights Act, that's how. Read a history book, fucktard. America was founded by white people and for white people. Pull yourself together and try to deal with it. So have you figured out what race the founders posterity are in your version of "history"? Maybe they are pygmies or aborigines or black muslims who hate white people? Would that make you feel better about yourself?
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz You got wax in your ears? Your not even listening to what i'm saying. When you re connect with reality message me back otherwise don't bother. I don't enjoy debating facts with a brick wall. Especially a racist brick wall
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 I answered every one of your false historical claims with the real true history of our country. Find one thing that you were right about and I was wrong about. You embarassed yourself by making up lies about American history and got PWNED by someone who knows the real history. Go read a history book and then come back when you think you are ready.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz PWND?? Ha Ha you're such a dork. Again, touch base with reality then we can talk. All my claims are true and yours are false. Deal with it fagot.
cgord31 11 months ago
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DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@cgord31 OK, dumb ass. Prove your claim that the founders of America were not white people. And prove your claim that the posterity of the founders of America are not white people. Either back up your story or admit that you made those lies up.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz Well, the Native Americans weren't white. And they are the original Americans.
squreshi10 11 months ago
@squreshi10 They are from Asia. White people are the original Americans.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
Why is it that anti-white racists can't ever let white people get the credit for what we have accomplished. The problem with giving everybody in the world credit for founding America is that somebody actually did found America and those people deserve to get the credit for founding our country. Just because you don't like the color of the founders skin does not give you the right to make up your own founders and scoff at the legacy of our founding fathers.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
People should have to take an intelligence test before they can vote. Anybody who can't read at a 3rd grade level or do simple addition and subtraction or who has no idea where America came from should be forbidden from voting.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
"Look we got no interest in backing all Democrats because they're Democrats, whereas you guys apparently have an interest in defending Sarah Palin because she's a Republican."
What happened to small government? If you ask me that seems Totalitarian, at least to some extent. In a Democracy, people are given the privilege to question their leaders. That's why I like TYT. I think the show isn't always reasonable against Conservatives and Republicans, but they actually /think/ on this program.
hirothemouse 11 months ago
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hirothemouse 11 months ago
Cenk could have cut the video by 5 min by saying he does it for the lulz.
Bloodlovefreak 1 year ago
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UnseenDroid 1 year ago
the reason intelligent commentators like to mock Sarah Palin is because even though she cost McCain the election, her uneducated supporters still insist on placing her on a pedestal despite accomplishing nothing
painlessissuicide 1 year ago 2
Yet another repub walking around with a full chubby, simply THRILLED that they have a woman in their party that, you know, kind of looks like a woman.
Oh, and when she winks it's not directed to you, you morons. Down boys. It's actually a muscle spasm brought on everytime she gets confused. Alrighty, you BETCHA!
conan1174 1 year ago
Sink needs to take his fat ass back to Turkey. Let him hate Americans from a distance.
DollaBiIIz 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz - He IS a US citizen. He is entitled to an opinion (and a vote). I however am NOT a US citizen but I too am entitled to an opinion.
freakystyley4000 1 year ago 3
@freakystyley4000 No he's not he's turkish. Americans are white.
DollaBiIIz 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz Umm...I'm an American and I'm not white.
MONIMONKS 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz His name is Cenk not "Sink". And just because he criticizes Sarah Palin ,it doesn't mean he hates America!
MONIMONKS 1 year ago 2
@DollaBiIIz LOL what makes you think he "Hates" Americans? Back to Turkey? How do you know he's even been to Turkey? Just because he's not white he's not American? I'm I talking to Sarah Palin?
cgord31 1 year ago
@cgord31 Turks are not American, they are Turkish. He hates the founders of America because they were whie people and not Turks or Canadians.
DollaBiIIz 1 year ago
@DollaBiIIz Fuck are you stupid. You can be Turkish and still be American, one is a race and the other is a country. Not the same thing retard. Just like you can be Irish American or Chinese American or even Iranian American. America is made up of many different cultures weather you like it or not.
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 America was founded by white people for white people. Not turks. America is made of different white cultures not turkish.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz Wow! Really? That answer is so void of intelligence, I don't even no where to begin. 1st off America was founded on immigration from MANY nations including Japan, India, UK, Germany and yes Turkey, just to name a few. To say that America was founded by white people for white people is so ridiculous. Statements like that expose your utter lack of intellect. You need to work on that if you ever want anyone to take you seriously.
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 Yes, really ignorant idiot. History is already written down in books. It isn't a story that you just make up because it makes you feel good about yourself. White people founded America not "immigrants from many nations". What are the names of the Turkish, Indian, and Japanese founders of America? Because the founders names are written in the books. And they wrote that they founded it for their posterity. That means white people in case you don't know what "posterity means".
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
I said America is founded on Immigration. Meaning the principles of immigration. Not once did I say the founding fathers were Indian or Japanese you dumb fuck. But those ethnicities that I mentioned have been immigrating here for over a hundred years and you've got the lack of brain cells to actually suggest that they're not American? The fact that you think posterity means white people shows how mentally challenged you actually are. Look up Posterity douche bag, you just might learn something
cgord31 11 months ago
@cgord31 America was founded by white people and for white people. Deal with it dumbass. It wasn't " founded on immigration from MANY nations including Japan, India, UK, Germany and yes Turkey", moron. America only allowed white immigration for over 100 years. You had to be white to be a citizen of America. Read a book instead of making up stories liar. You might learn something.
DollaBiIIz 11 months ago
@DollaBiIIz Are you kidding me? You actually believe that crap you just wrote down? Are you some sort of skin head KKK? America was absolutely founded on the basis of immigration. Without immigration America would not be very powerful at all. It was the only way to rapidly increase the population in order to compete with the other powerful nations of the world. Read a history book you ignorant fool.
cgord31 11 months ago
this Cenk guy is incredibly boring
Puckhog9 1 year ago
Because she's hilarious, that's why we care.
noellennon 1 year ago
100,000th viewer :D nice
fauxman 1 year ago
The guy Cenk is debating with is a fucking moron. They slam on Obama and the democrats ALL THE TIME. Even though they are liberal, they try to be fair to both sides, either when it comes to glorifying good ideas or demonizing the bad ideas. They are not all democrat all the time, unlike this idiot who clearly is straight-up republican and will support any republican candidate even if they believe that Africa is a country. What a fucking moron.
CusatoComplexChannel 1 year ago 2
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Did you know "race car" spelled backwards still spells race car?
The word "eat" is the only word that, if you take the 1st letter and move it to the last, spells its past tense – ate?
And if you rearrange the letters in "Tea Party Republicans" and add just a few more letters, it spells: "Shut-up, you free-loading, progress-blocking, Loughner-loving, homophobic, resource-sucking, racist, hypocritical jerks, and face the fact that you capsized the country under Bush"?
How weird is that?
rickyseabra 1 year ago
this caller seems to subscribe to the Bill OReilly school of talking with someone -- Be REALLY LOUD and assign the beliefs of an entire political party to the person you're talking with.
Great stuff Cenk.
D119heavy 1 year ago 2
Sarah Palin has the intellectual capacity of a bag of doorknobs.
Actually, that might be giving her too much credit.
Doorknobs have multiple moving parts that fit together well and provide a useful function.
D119heavy 1 year ago 3
Great job, Cenk. Reminds me of this gem from The Day Today:
/watch?v=kGex0kLgNok
gregtube88 1 year ago
Notice how polarized the two parties have gotten? BOTH Cenk and the caller
apply each others comments to the whole party. Nobody thinks for themselves,
they simply go along with whatever everyone else in their party says. Too
much like sports. The elections aren't the finals. Think for yourself people.
ThePedub 1 year ago
This guy Cenk is not good at arguing his point.
Valladao6 1 year ago
@Valladao6 and you just did one hell of a job of arguing yours
luckachuk 1 year ago
I am starting to like Cenk more. I used to think he was a leftist blowhard talking head but he shows he can be reasonable.
GGGGeorger 1 year ago 20
Because shes an idiot... the video might aswell have ended there that answered everything haha
Psycnosis 1 year ago
Sarah Palin deserves to be mocked and destroyed because in this dark time in our country, when people are jobless and losing their homes and our economy is shit and our politicians are all liars, frauds and bought by the wealthy, this nitwit, Sarah Palin quits her job, makes millions of dollars, has thousands of loyal supporters... And she is a fucking idiot. She is a brick with hair. She doesn't deserve to have a good life when so many others are suffering. She is garbage.
EscpdFrmPsykward 1 year ago
I love these people they only want there voice heard no debate what so ever. Cenk would have been right on all accounts if it was a debate.
nodogyougay48 1 year ago
Brilliant. I've never enjoyed Uygur's work as much as in this short piece.
torca1950 said it best with "How Cenk has grown"
Canaderek 1 year ago
i'm obsessed with South Park too....
wateryskipper 1 year ago
CENK SLAPPED DOWN A MORON WHO SUPPORTS A MORON IN GREAT FASHION.
britturk123 1 year ago 4
Im amazed Sarah can wipe her own ass. Id have to see proff that she can do it. Ive known kids that road the special buss that where smarter then that dingy bitch. Run Sarah run. Forest Gump would have been augh struck at her stupidity.
MrRolaids65 1 year ago
@MrRolaids65 I heard she tried to wipe her ass once, but ended up with toilet paper in her eye.
Tradd9 1 year ago
@MrRolaids65 u mean awestruck, just thought id point that out
plyerv 1 year ago
he did not watch the show much he was talking about msnbc
TheFury12369 1 year ago
Anyone that supports Sarah Palin needs medication.
viroacid 1 year ago 4
I wanna see Cenk vs. O'reilly, that would be an epic disscusion^^
cwongchung 1 year ago
@cwongchung Cenk is still too hot blooded to face O'Reilly. Ben is more suited. Its actually physically impossible to debate Bill O. see the Ron Paul video. at best you can get interviewed and interrogated by him. Obama and Jon Stewart did the best so far.
jkay07 1 year ago
He is beyond stupid. We like talking about Sarah Palin because she is still trying to get into politics but yet still manages to spectacularly fail at everything.
34601k 1 year ago
This guy is an idiot who's only goal was to insult liberals no matter how wrong he was and group every single democrat together.
metalrox555 1 year ago 3
Best Line: We like to rub it in your face that your VP Candidate was an idiot loser moron.
crazycamel2321 1 year ago 3
2,144 likes, 144 dislikes
CujoshuntLives 1 year ago
He sounds scary!! Kinda like he's an idiot stalker. Palin IS an idiot. I will never forget her calling Africa a country....lol.....good times...or, not knowing why there were two Koreas....lol
barellen5 1 year ago
Why does the podium at 1:40 say Gaylord? Is that the name of something? Either way: Gaylord + Sarah Palin = lols
Territomauvais 1 year ago
My dad could beat up your dad.
this callers arguments are like lame
LordoftheJamesClan 1 year ago
"Your VP candidate was a loser, idiot, moron." Best quote ever in re: Sarah Palin.
Zkrazy44 1 year ago 3
Cenk FINALLY nails it at the end; this caller expects Progressives to automatically defend each & every liberal candidate. That is what conservatives do, not most liberals. Conservatives seem to think of politics like sports where you have to defend the guys on your team no matter how many co-eds he might rape
Now, Progressive POSITIONS I will debate until my dying breathe. Politicians you will find right under the bus where I left them
Hopeful71 1 year ago
I don't think the caller was defending Palin. He was more worried that the news orgs were spending too much time talking about her, and not real issues. And I agree that most mainstream media does that. TYT, however, are not mainstream, and cover all issues, and all parties. Cenk rules.
FamousLastWords443 1 year ago
@FamousLastWords443 Yes, but you know, the mainstream media are not really about politic or economy... They are also about popular sh***, so Sarah Palin and Paris Hilton have some commons things.
therrydicule 1 year ago
@FamousLastWords443
Yeah, I'd agree that the caller was arguing that a focus on Sarah Palin would cause the liberals slash Democrats to fail in getting their own message out.
Which, of course, is exactly what happened.
patrickcorliss 1 year ago
This guy's biggest mistake was assuming Cenk was a democrat.
dreadred92 1 year ago
Hmm... seems funny how Cenk did not even answer much of his questions... plus, it is funny how the caller said "yes" after Cenk was saying Sarah Palin is stupid. hahahaha
DalikastheStoic 1 year ago
wow he really kept his cool with that guy on the phone. I would have cut his call much earlier. Good job!
xentry 1 year ago 4
That was 'the people's elbow' right there, followed by a 'Tombstone'! That's how you've got to take it to those pricks. Trying to have a civil debate with a right-wing moron, is the definitive exercise in futility!
jibsmokestack1 1 year ago
"Haha, because she's an idiot."
Best answer ever haha.
newdimensionfilms 1 year ago 94
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@newdimensionfilms said, "Haha, because she's an idiot."
And so's the caller, apparently.
p3snooper 1 year ago
I sort of want Palin to get elected just so she can make a mess of it and all her dumbass, redneck followers can watch the train wreck and see how stupid their decision to support her is.
Then America can make me it's king.
Averagegamer100 1 year ago
Yep, that's right, sarah palin IS an idiot!
I think that idiot on the phone is a FAUX NEWS producer! What a moron!
pnollen 1 year ago
@pnollen Sarah Palin writes a few notes on her hand to jog her memory and that's a major story while the president can't decide whether or not to go to the bathroom if it is'nt written on a telaprompter. Obama inherits a government already in debt & he responds to this with more debt. We have entitlements we can't afford so,of course,he adds another massive entitlement program that we can't afford. And let's not forget imposing added taxes & regulations on a bad economy. Who's the idiot again?
sleedolfine15 1 year ago
@sleedolfine15
I don't disagree necessarily with that, but she makes Bush and Obama look like Einstein compared to her. The only reason she is even relevant is because McCain subjected her onto this country. If you want real change in 2012, Ron Paul is the only candidate who's going to change course from what the Republicans and Democrats are doing to this country.
rmccay88 1 year ago
@rmccay88 I agree 100% about Ron Paul. I think that he can win the general election. His problem is that the republican party may turn to Palin or Romney(gasp) or any number of 2nd raters instead of Paul. and without a major party nomination,he goes nowhere.
sleedolfine15 1 year ago
I think the question the caller had was more of why doesn't msnbc talk more about helping the democrats or talking about why they're losing, rather then wasting time on making jokes about sarah palin.
myimaginaryhero 1 year ago
@myimaginaryhero Yeah. He did ask that. But Cenk kept telling the caller that he can't speak for any of them; and that the caller did not follow TYT. Any avid viewer of TYT knows that they bash on anyone, and that's because this is an opinion show, not news.
MSNBC does cover much of Democratic woes. Palin is covered because she's a pivotal figure in the Tea Party movement. The caller just has beef with Palin bashing. It's his opinion, nothing else. He made no compelling argument for his case.
DameunPutazo 1 year ago
Supporting politicians for their stance without questioning them individually... If that's what Republicans have a tendency to do like Cenk said, that seems pretty Totalitarian to me. Isn't that ironic? Same thing with the "don't criticize the president during wartime." The reason why Nazi Germany and the USSR were so destructive was because no one questioned what their leaders were doing, or at least they weren't allowed to. If this is coming from the people in a free country, that's sad.
HiroyukiNishino 1 year ago
i love you for this cenk. and its so strikingly representive how the caller accuses cenk or tyt of being everything that he, the caller, associates with the democrats xD
gatskillz 1 year ago
Palin Wannabe?
dillzer12 1 year ago
This guy is definitely a republican, he's using their strategy: talk louder and be rude when you're losing.
yakovgolyadkin 1 year ago
"why are you so obsessed with destroying her?"
"because she's an idiot"
"yeah"
redryan20000 1 year ago
AHAHHAAHAHHAAH i love cenk
Caller: why are you so obsessed with destroying her?
Cenk: Because shes's an idiot.........
LOL
Th3Best0ne 1 year ago 9
"hey brother" - his first words are cynical poisonous bullying
gratex 1 year ago
Sarah Pallin only cares about her own fame rather than serving the requirements of office.
roodeey 1 year ago
Great debate...Cenk vs a13 year old.
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HiroyukiNishino 1 year ago
ownd so badly lol
phenforreal 1 year ago
This guys is just playing the them vs. us game.. if one person on the other side said something they must all believe it.. give me a break, if you want to play that game go for it.. but realized nothing gets solved and definitely no way to come to a middle ground when you have that world view..
utoobbadass 1 year ago
How Cenk has grown.He is so calm when he talks to this guy and always has the right thing to say when he replyes.I was watching some old clips of him debating and it looked like one of Bill O'Reilly interviews.See you can get your point out with not screaming like a douchbag.Cenk your are an inteligent man,so act like one.Treat your debating opponents with respect even if they are idiots.
torca1950ancola 1 year ago 73
@torca1950ancola
You forgot mention Glenn Beck and his:
"Get Off My Phone You Little Pinhead!"
xD
Mariet31 1 year ago 4
@torca1950ancola well i think he did treat him with respect. that guy had just no idea what he was talking about so i can understand cenk when he gets pissed off repeating his points over and over again.
huereguetueli 1 year ago
@torca1950ancola I agree. Our opponents are not our enemies and they deserve our respect.
BijiSan 1 year ago
HAHAHA oh man this great! =D
guitarfreak8900 1 year ago
the called didnt understand one thing..cenk said tht as well y thy talk about sarah palin so much..because its damn funny..tht bitch is freakin moron..this show doesnt talk about politics only, this show is about entertainment as well..i m a litsener frm like 2 years now n i luv the humour on the show. politics is awesome as well bt still humour makes it the best show online 2 watch..sarah palin is dumb idiotic person who does stuff so that ppl can make fun of her..
yomelbourne 1 year ago
wow this guys an idiot
zosothedestroyer 1 year ago
Sarah Palin is like a master troll. You know you're not supposed to feed her, but she gets so ridiculous that it's possible to ignore her.
Nani101 1 year ago
this guy's not really defending palin, he's kind of just saying she's not worth talking about.
BrandNameChapstick 1 year ago
Wow, Cenk's handling was really cool here, he let the guy speak and when was interrupted while responding, didnt go into frenzy like all Conservative hosts do.
Btw, funny, the Cons do that all the time: they downplay Palin, saying they wonder why anybody's taking an interest in her, and the second she's attacked, they start to defend her like she really matters.
Pleeeeease, you either think she isnt worth media time, or that she is. Not both at the same time. Typical.
Gargantua606 1 year ago 2
this guy is just another wihte rascict defending his own kind fuck we dont care about palin i understand that she lost ok but why is she still on the fuckin newspapers
and shows if she lost she should be more like mcain and sit her fuckin ass down
im not a cenk fan much but on this man im with you all the way the caller is just wanting to get embarresed
haiemye 1 year ago
man this caller sucks.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
I feel Cenk missed many great chances to make an intelligent rebuttal and instead offered cheap shots. I am behind him all the way, I agree with him, but his debating skills could use an improvement.
For example: The caller asks, "... why do you care about Sarah Palin and her daughter?"
Because they go around saying homosexuals are bad for children, I care about them because they slander my friends.
Totally legit response, Cenk didn't make it. Next time I hope.
BreaButterfly 1 year ago
the thing is this is Cenks style, if you dont like it dont watch it
tecellos 1 year ago
it wasn't sarah palin vs barack obama though nice try there this turkish guy is so dumb.
fpt215 1 year ago
@fpt215 lol i do believe you're the only dumb one here! it WAS Sarah Palin vs Barack Obama AND John McCain was in it too! there were 3 people running for president this time but i guess you got your news a bit too late huh
quackinator1 1 year ago
@fpt215 rhetorical question, you tool.
Xerxes4242 1 year ago
The founders of this country were also slave owners. How paradoxical.
Aceblazin 1 year ago
Lol nice cenk. rub that in his face. i love it!
urmaster05 1 year ago
You want government to "tuck you in bed at night". Feed you. Clothe you. Let's see what else? Government's only real responsibility is to provide for the common defense. Anything else it provides is a convenience which is subject to review and yes possibly withdrawal. It takes far more courage to be a Conservative than a Liberal. Sarah is here to stay and so is my support for her. Since you move away from the founders and Constitution you can't be an American.
ErichH68 1 year ago
@ErichH68 LO...FUCKING L, Do you want a cookie?
STFU and go support Palin, it really doesn't change the fact she's an idiot...
a1q2s3 1 year ago
The caller does have somewhat of a point.
Keep up with showing how unqualified she is.
But keep personal attacks to a minimum.
Turning her into a victim might actually get her elected.
It worked for Obama and it could happen again.
GovernmentSham912 1 year ago
Because TYT is a liberal show, and to some extent a comical show, and Palin is more comical than Obama.
baigandine 1 year ago
Yeah, out of all the political media outlines out there TYT is by far the most unbias, i have seen them shame both sides and give great turly fair and blanced commentary on both sides, a little left wing bias only because the left wing is always slamed in this country, so they have to in order to make it fair. IMHPP cenk calls himself a moderate, i call him a progessive consevative.
KangaKucha 1 year ago
The host of this show is a total moron. He is like all Liberals, who only call names and point fingers but can't back up their accusations with any facts. All he says about why he doesn't like Sarah is "she's a moron." Really? Why? Clearly she is not. Governor of Alaska, has a best selling book, etc. And she's a moron? At least she can use a few notes on her hand, whereas Obama can't give one speech without a teleprompter. Really? Liberals are so effing backwards. USE FACTS, MORON.
NateDawg1387 1 year ago
@NateDawg1387
correction: quitter of Alaska.
oh and the old teleprompter insult....Bush was a trainreck without one, also. At least he was hilarious when his train derailed. Bush had a sense of humor....I'll give him that
kribby 1 year ago
@NateDawg1387
one more thing.....why the hell do you and your conservative buddies insist on calling her governor? You truly think we will forget that she left her elected post to chase the money that poor suckers like you will throw at her? Well, she's now laughing all the way to the bank....with YOUR hard-earned money. Isn't capitalism great?
kribby 1 year ago
@kribby I personally like the term: Madame President or goddess LMAO@ You
ErichH68 1 year ago
ratings...we are an obsessive culture with celebs and that is what SHE IS..so when people talk about her..it brings in ratings ..that is what is about...
1nechance419 1 year ago
Why do we give a shit about her?? Because she freaking wont go away!!! She’ like a bad rash you cant get rid of
tigerzebra 1 year ago
@tigerzebra Ironic how you go around to all of Palins videos screeching in agony then you say "Why do we give a shit about her??"
I think the answer you are looking for is: jealousy.
KingDingaLing090 1 year ago
I love that Sarah Palin murders wolves. And she is the Tea Party icon. And the dumb confused Republicans don't know what to do because they only know how to do what they are told. Go sign a DD form 4 contract moron, and learn the real meaning of your enslavement. Lol.
HostileNegotiator 1 year ago
What are they blacking out at the bottom???
Tony007corp 1 year ago
poor angry deluded man! he just can't understand why it's so embarrassing that a politician that aspires leadership of this country and that his party has vetted as qualified for the job needs to write on her hand talking points like someone trying to cheat for a test that they have not prepared for...
tyrannosaurusinf14 1 year ago
strawmaning conservative with zero point? Sounds exactly like any creationist with the agreement "why do atheists obsesses over god so much if they don't believe in him".
darksidelead 1 year ago
I still find it amazing that people talk about left / right when there is only one leftist in the US (Bernie Sanders) and people would actually be much better if there were more people like him. He is the biggest "from the people for the people" type of politician around.
karlsantos 1 year ago
@karlsantos
Bernie Sanders is da man
erjoalgo 1 year ago
this was epic! it shows us how stupid people have to be to follow sarah palin!
xKargatx 1 year ago
cenk owns. that guy was so not ready to debate someone like cenk.
njguitarnewbjk 1 year ago 2
I'm just thinking you might be a LITTLE bit afraid of Sarah, seeing as she's the white, female version of Obama. Both inexperienced. The only difference? Obama's the charismatic typical dem.
rockoutalex 1 year ago