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  • " wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute." wow politicians can get really annoying when something is out of their script serves them right though

  • Hahaha, screw you Specter!

  • NOWWAITAMINUTE

  • US is in state of REVOLT

  • Hey dumbass, you got your chance to speak so stop crying. Typical brain dead cons.

  • Pork em hard..

    Vote em out!

    Kill the HC Mandate pile of shyte....

  • ONE DAY GOD IS GONNA STAND BEFORE YOU, AND HE'S GONNA JUDGE YOU

    true true.....

  • That was erupt? Hell it looked to me like the guy wanted to be heard as he was told he would be! America we like that man should ALL stand up and DEMAND to be heard! More power to that man!

  • What is wrong with these people?

    They wanted John McCain to win he lost. Instead of doing what most people do when they are in a civilized country and debate their political opposition these guys scream "WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK" "OBAMA IS HITLER" "OBAMA IS A COMMIE" Hysterical lunacy.

    Obama hasn't even been in office a year yet and these people are acting like they have been under the jack boot of a tyrannical dictator for decades. They are as bad as the lefties who think Bush was behind 911

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  • 0:14

    The guy in white should have been arrested and the man should have been free to go end of story.

  • This old guy is my hero what a true patriot ....if 2% of Americans had 1% of hits nuts every politician in office would be homeless so lets wake up and get involved in our local militias and say NO MORE PORK FOR THE PIGS.....and get a hold on this beast ones and for all.....FUCK POLITICS AS USUAL AND FUCK THE NWO....if someone laid a hand on me in a town hall meeting I would of broke his jaw.....

  • We need a REMIX version of this video...Where is it?!?!

  • WAIT A MINUTE

  • seriously, if these dems get reelected i quit

  • FOX news endlessly contradicts itself...they are advocating for these health care town hall protestors day after day...but rewind to just a few years ago and they were DEMONIZING protestors of the Iraq war...Sean Hannity especially...there is truly no bounds to their hypocrisy

  • There is a HUGE difference between protesting a war, meant to promote peace and democracy --and protesting OUR healthcare! The protesters against the Iraqi War, didn't even know what was going on. Don't forget, Saddam Hussein was convicted or heinous crimes against humanity!!!!

  • gidi247:

    was that a joke? Protesters of the Iraq was had no idea what was going on? Of course they fucking did...myself included...we know that we went to war on FALSE PRETENSES...Saddam had NO ties to Al-Qaeda, no WMD's...those are the reasons we went to war...and they were false...do you really think ALL of these health care reform protetors know all the details about the bill? NO!!!! they heard bullshit lies and ran with them...that someone would "kill grandma" and all that BS.

  • isn't that amazing, the right wing media has enough power over these people to fight against a system that would actually benefit them. Thats some fucking brain washing.

  • This guy, a vet, has personal experience with the government run heath care, the VA. just look up all the old stories about Walter Reid Hospital

    Nationalized health care means waiting for months to see a doctor and then add a year to see the specialist. IF your condition is deemed necessary to be treated, and IF you will not be a useless eater after the treatment and IF you are a good party member then you will be taken care of. ALL others will be given two aspirin and call back in a week

  • And yet Medicare is marvelous. The govt doesn't care about 1 or 2 million veterans who have already done their job.

  • Walter Reid Hospital has been corrected. And where are you getting all this information that all others will be given two aspirins and call back in a week. I'm a vet and I am satisfied with the care I get. Where are you getting all your facts, that it's going to be this way or that way. Turn off your radio station.

  • I have a mother in law that is a retired Marine. for 3 years she has been fighting the VA for the major joint damage she received over the years of service. I have helped her get to her appointment and stayed to help her get around the VA. She asked me to sit in on her talks with her doctor after her exams and treatments to have a witness to the CF of an system of how long it takes to get the treatment.

  • Your mother in laws joint damage isn't from years of service. It's from old age. So don't make me laugh about how hard females have it in the Marines. As if being a Marine means constant rigourous activity. Fighting the VA for major joint damage, what does that mean? You mean she wants to get treatment and is fighting them on it. And if that is her case, you still aren't taking account of many satisfied veterans that get treated by the VA hospitals. You are making a judgement off of one case.

  • And finally, you are debating a proposed system that will only target people without health insurance. Matter of fact, the propsed idea would make you ineligable for the propsed national health care plan. So either you have health insurance through your work currently and this debate does not involve you or you are telling people without insurance that it would be better for them to have no insurance instead of a nationaly run option, and thats just insane.

  • The question is, does your mother in law have the paperwork (ie: medical records) to prove that she had the problems while in the military? If not, she probably doesn't stand a chance. Otherwise she would have to contact past unit members who can support her claim of injury.

  • She has a copy of all her records from her time in the service and the the doctors treatment while she was in.

    Phoenix VA hospital in Arizona notified orthopedic surgeons and therapist that they had reached their quota on work and would not be paid for any more care provided in 2009. They were told they could work for free, make the patients wait until 2010, or perhaps some money could be found if they were willing to take an 80 percent pay cut.

    This situation sounds like a story from Canada

  • Enough with the Nazi rhetoric already. It's stupid coming from both sides. Jesus.

  • wait a minute wait a minute......

    SPECTER will get ZERO votes for reelection

    he should LISTEN to the people!!!!!!

  • That guy said "Wait a minute" 12 times. Why not just say wait 12 minutes to begin with and then let the man speak?

  • damn, i MUST SAY,U TALK WITH COMMON SENSE AND IT SOUND SO SIMPLE AND HOW TRUE IT IS WITH MOST AMERICANS.WE CAN AFFORD OUR OWN IF WE ONLY GAVE SOMETHING LESS NEEDED UP.THANK YOU

  • Bless this great man.

  • Heres another plan storm Wash DC and throw these fascist scum out on their ASS every last one ....then track down the corporate lobbiest and give them some OLD WEST JUSTICE....we have everything to lose if we dont stand up and sink the fascist NAZI ship that the BUSH family set sail.......Keep up the good work protesters !!!!!! dont stop till the slime is slithering out of DC !!

  • Look at that scubag spector ...what a sleez ...and did you see that skinhead plain clothed fascist cop push the old man out of the way that guy was a PAID THUG....he was a NAZI COP THUG.....fuck Spector and his fascist thug cops hidden in the crowd.....its time to REVOLT AGAINST THE SLIME...

  • OK OK OK.....he was about to cry

  • Republicans should really try to get at least a few semi-educated people to attend these meetings. A 5th grade drop-out calling Specter and other government officials "cronies" is pretty worthless and pathetic. Conservatives go on and on about the right to bear arms but the way they attempt to debate or attack the Democrats, it's as if they're showing up to a gun fight armed only with a box of Crayons.

  • democrats should really try to get half educated people in office

  • hey dumbass, he was voted in by Republicans! Specter switched parties. Remember? Do you even read the news?

  • so a rep got voted in by the 20% of republicans in the state and then the liberal undecided voters. i dont see your point. if you lived in pennsylvania or listen to the news you would know republicans hated spector. he would beat out a guy with no money in the primaries and then every republican would vote for him because he was "a little better" then the democrat. the undecided ppl would vote becaause he was a liberal moderate. thats why he switched. so again, i dont see your point

  • lol i like your analogy.

  • NHS in the UK is un-fit for Purpose !.. Zip / Post code Lottery at best, and a means of Culling the old and sick ( Burden on Society !! )......Do a quick search on the New World Order (NWO) and see how deep this rabbi-t hole goes....Socialism means death by Filth ! (MRSA)...

  • specter, the modern-day Benedict Arnold, welcome to him libs. he is all yours. There is a groundswell of conservatism coming, and none too soon. The left-wing will bankrupt our country unless we boot them out of office.

  • The man is doing just what the govenment does not want us to do....tell the truth.

  • he's right about the lobbyists and corruption of politicians

  • was he really bitching about guards??

    how spoiled!

  • GOD???

    he's a republican!!! these people arent there for a debate, they're there to cause trouble!!!

    poeple have every right to ask questions, and voice their concern..

    but I wonder how people are supposed to get answers when you have protesters shouting over those who are trying to explain it!!!

    these people dont give anyone a chance to talk!!

  • there's no answers to be given. its a bill to get rid of the drug and insurance companies and have the same failed socialized medicine they have in europe. 80% of americans dont want it so why would any politician vote for it when they were elected by and for the people

  • That guy is really cool.

  • Specter is clueless.

  • Rather I would say that he got a sharp mind and a smart mouth...

  • Who is the thug in the white hat. A plant to silence decent? Why wasn't he charged with simple assault?

  • exactly

  • lol they just repeat everything shammity says? No one ever used the word "chronies" before hannity or rush

  • These men and women are not above me, you, or anybody. A government of the people, by the people, and for the people? Everybody has to answer to somebody, and they answer to YOU. The time they stop answering to you is the time you get them the hell out of office. These people will bastardize the Constitution and then look at you like you're an idiot and smile.

  • I nominate this guy for the Darwin Awards!!

  • ONE DAY GOD WILL STAND BEFORE YOU!!!

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  • GOOD FOR HIM... I applaud this protestor. We ALL need to do the SAME thing. STAND UP AGAINST THIS CORRUPTED GOVERNMENT!!

  • Wow, typing capital letters means yelling. You must be related to the guy yelling at the senator. I'm not suprised.

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  • Anyone remember this bit of classiness from the left?

    /watch?v=-G9SMnVNBUM

  • I don't understand why the people protesting can't have a rational discussion. Why the screaming and yelling? It's ridiculous. I hope people watching don't think that yelling and screaming is the only way that opinions need to be expressed.

  • The face of the modern Republican party, ladies and gentlemen. Rush Limbaugh must be so proud.

  • Considering what you liberal cockroaches did during bushes administration this was tame. Now what was your point?

  • I actually consider myself a centrist.  My point is that the Republican party has purged itself of anyone not belonging to the far, far right, and the people that have chosen to remain have abandoned all rationality.

    How can you support Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, but bemoan a universal health care system? Is your slogan "government health care for some, the street for those not lucky enough to qualify?" That sounds more like a death squad than anything Obama's proposed.

  • Obama made a major error in welcoming Specter back into the Democrat Party. Like the rich hypocrite liberal elite that he is, Obama shows that its NOT about what you believe or whether you will DEFEND the constitution at all costs; rather it is purely about VOTES, POWER, and UTILITY.

  • Such a shame... he had his chance to say something totally poignant, and really make a point that could go down in history. Instead, it was a sputtering, "Uhh... your cronies in the guvvamint! You do whatever it is you please!" He'll regret that shaky outburst the rest of his life.

  • WAIT A MINUTE!

  • I agree with the poster below get ready for a civil war... And if you are oblivious as to why then my guess is you are the most in trouble.

    Good for this guy people need to start getting pist off.. Its a bit late but better now then never...

    This country is officially a disaster. Recovery? LOL yea right...

  • These are the types of people who have been in charge of the free world?  Holy Fuck!

  • i just love how he insists on leaving "after he states his opinion"...but didn't state his opinion on anything relevant at all. and i liked his usage of "cronies". you don't hear that one too often.

  • I think the Republican party should move toward anarchism. That might work for them.

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  • Ugh. Bible Class OVER. Now did Jesus work for Aetna or did he work for Blue Cross, I forget, and did he turn away those people who had pre-existing conditions? I'm just curious as to why the only people out there fighting for this thing are the heathens. WTH? I have a job. I have a healthcare plan. Why am I knocking myself out trying to make sure these idiots who have nothing better to do than to go out and protest (and get paid for it) get a friggin break? Who pays for their healthcare?

  • Anyone that spews that Washington was not religious and that govt' was separate from Religion do yourselves a favor before you sound any more foolish GOOGLE: Washington's Thansgiving Day Declaration anyone that reads that and still spews no religion in gov't needs their EROSIONIST LIE-beral heads examined and shouldn't have a computer.

  • awsome

  • CITIZEN STAND UP Makes your VOICES HEARD.

    NO more bills or REFORMS or ANY KIND until Washington gets OVERHAULED and REFORMED as PROMISED.

  • PORTUGAL1010 Yeah! No more REFORMS of ANY KIND until Washington gets REFORMED! You are a complete moron. Did you actually read what you'd typed? No, that kind of stupidity is a reflex, isn't it? Why think when you can blurt out stupid crap, contradict yourself and shout bullshit?

    The Separation of Church and State is not a "lie". I would question how you could make such a claim but you seem dumb enough to believe it.

    Do you not know what a Deist is?

    Stop being a moron and google it, genius.

  • de·ism (dē'ĭz'əm, dā'-)

    n. The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.

    [French déisme, from Latin deus, god; see dyeu- in Indo-European roots.]

    de'ist n., de·is'tic adj., de·is'ti·cal·ly adv.

  • Deism's god is boring.

    More like a deadbeat dad.

    Certainly nothing worth worshiping.

  • Separation of Church and State as it is peddled today is a LIE. Clearly the FOUNDERS had no wall up to keep religigon out of gov't they actually instead encouraged it: They had chapel. Daily prayer the Name of God was everywhere. Built churches nearby Built a National Cathedral. They paid to print the first bible They entered proclamations & resolutions regularly The Separation (wall) was to keep gov't OUT OF THE CHURCH not Vice-versa. Freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion
  • oh god. what an idiot. so let me get this straight....you came to the town hall to yell and protest that you don't want to have your tax dollars to go to a system that may keep you from having to pay $400 a month for Cobra, should you lose your job, to protest a system that just might be the only help you get should you develop cancer. that's f-level genius right there. he's lucky that sabertooths are extinct, cuz he'd be easy pickings.

  • You idiot, you have the mike....

  • Specter can't handle this office any more he needs to retire

  • The liberal people referenced in the Bible were generous with their own wealth. The liberal people in our society like to give away wealth that they confiscate from people who earn it.

  • Dah, I can't talk at meeting and people say stuff and cronies do this all the time and God's gonna judge you and your cronies and stuff.

  • I am rather surprised the gentleman got to speak that long with out being tackled by the swines with badges anyways thats your free speech for you and the guy who put his hands on the older gentlemen needs a lesson in manners

  • Where was this guy's Christian outrage when our country was invading Iraq?

  • cilleysf:

    God condones war when it rids of evil -- that's what the Bible states

  • So, the Bible condones war to rid (the world) of evil. Does the Bible require war to stop evil? And if one person or a group of people decides that something is evil does that mean God also believes it is evil? Who decides what is evil and what it not? Is it evil to leave millions of people uninsured in the United States? Is it evil to have the government insure that all people receive health care?

  • cilley:

    Yes, the Bible condones war to rid or stop evil. Of course genocide is evil -- I think God would agree w/that

    Jesus was also a proponent of Capitalism

    Jesus taught to give w/your heart (charity) - and that if has to be taken from you, it means nothing

    The Bible also says, "a man who won't work, shouldn't eat"

    Our politicians should read the 10 Commandments on the walls of the Supreme Court & Capitol Buildings --- and pay attention to the 8th one: "Thou shall not steal"

  • Jesus would be a liberal today...these republicans are so dumb...

  • themadraven: LOL

    Yea, Jesus would condone an 8 month pregnant woman walking into an abortion clinic to have her baby chemically burned alive or stabbed in the head. Gotcha ;)

    Again, Jesus was a proponent of Capitalism

  • All right... but my question was whether the Bible requires us to stop evil, not whether it condones war to stop evil.

    I think you go a little far in saying that Jesus was a proponent of Capitalism. Jesus distributed loaves and fish, he didn't sell them.

    You're correct that the Bible says that someone who will not work, should not eat but what about those who do work and are struck with illness. Should they also not eat merely because they no longer have the economic means to pay for food?

  • cilleysf:

    Honestly, I'm not sure if there's a distinction between "required" or "condoned" in the Bible. I guess I'd have to research that. But the bottom line is, stopping evil is not wrong

    Yes, Jesus was a proponent of Capitalism -- I'll find some scripture. You're confusing the fish with charity

    Jesus said a man who "won't" work, not "can't". That is directed to the lazies who milk the govt entitlement programs

  • I agree that stopping evil isn't wrong. It's totally right. I just have a hard time knowing exactly what is evil. Lots of people tell me what is evil and what isn't. I'm not convinced of nearly any of it.

    I also agree about the "won't"/"can't" issue. If someone is just being lazy then they really shouldn't get anything for free... But for the millions of people who are trying hard but not getting by because of the cost of health care, we must do better.

  • cilleysf:

    Again, I believe a dictator who kills hundreds of thousands of his own citizens is for sure "evil" (Saddam)

    We already have systems in place for the truly needy. Public clinics & hospitals located in every county in the nation for the uninsured --- and Medicaid for the truly poor

    Look at people receiving welfare, etc. -- many of them have cell phones, iPods, Satellite/Cable TV, Computers, Internet Service, ESPN sports packages, etc. --makes me ill

  • 2010GOP, You believe that a dictator who kills hundreds of thousands of his own citizens to be "evil"? I can't help but wonder what it is then that you find "good" about your god or religion (this applies to all gods and religions).

  • chris:

    You're obviously confused --- go to Carm (dot) Org -- you can search with certain questions, etc

  • 2010GOP, Yeah, I'll go to carm . org because the information on that website is totally unbiased and valid, right?

    You link me to a site called The Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, as rebuttal and source of information? At least we can see the kinds of places where you get your information from and why your views are fucked.

  • chris:

    Look, Carm is a site where people who have studied theology, etc

    There are answers to your questions

    Also go to: 100Prophecies (dot) org or com

    If ANY book had procephies fulfilled or being fulfilled -- proving the prophecies in the Bible at 100% -- the "book" would be the talk of the world

  • *sigh*

    Another evangelical who is missing the entire point of religion.

  • the guy sounds like he's gonna cry lol

  • I am completely shocked some people in here cannot comprehend the situation at hand. This is just another example of "Ignorance is bliss". It is better to avoid the point rather than to accept it? Or is this argument about petty things that have no relevance whatsoever to this video, and even so, you should make sure to back your comments fully and without b\bane callings. Be civil and peaceful, after all, that's how flame wars start and the point never gets across, it just creates conflict. : /

  • i love reading these comments of fucking retards argueing on youtube who wana sound smart. go get a job

  • First learn how to spell arguing, before calling anyone retarded.

  • Dems and Repubs: different sides of the same coin. Both benefited from the unconstitutional war in iraq and the unconstitutional TARP. Bush was a rambling joke and Obama is a well-spoken yes-man, who has yet to prove his constitutional eligibility to hold the presidency. Both were bankrolled and beholden to the same group of international elites. When you buy off both parties you can never lose. My solution: vote every incumbent out and replace with third parties. It can't get any worse.

  • What a baby...waaah I dont get my way! Nobody likes me, I'm leaving!

  • divide and conquer

  • the guy in the white hat needs to be arrested for assault for grabbing and pushing that guy. i would have knocked his teeth out. we the people have a right to defend ourselves

  • Criminals are running our country. From 9/11 to unjust wars to banker hijacking of our economy. The American people are fed up and sickened by this corruption. Our Lord in heaven wants us all to resist this evil. End the Federal Reserve.

  • Bingo!

  • You're all retards.

    Left vs right...it's just a game. Stop supporting all parties. Dems, and Repubs are both corrupt trash.

  • Altow I completely oppose Obamacare and and think Arlin Spector is a douchebag, Spector decided to let they guy speak than be removed because he knew Fox would blast him in the press. The Dems are pushing there own agenda no doubt about that, and right-fully so because they have the power in Washington. The problem is they are going agenst what the majority of the US citizans want. Respect must be givin at these town hall debates and an oppertunity for questions.

  • This guy was on Dylan Ratigan's morning meeting show, and he is obviously intellectually challenged.

  • What a pathetic loser. To create such a fuss simply because he couldn't do exactly what he wanted to do reveals the out-of-touch arrogance that plagues America. There is a classy way of speaking and there is a psycho way of speaking and the American political discourse is now home to the psycho.

  • People are willing to fight, but they need to know what they're fighting for.

  • Wingnuts have gone crazy...Why don't they just leave our country if they don't like it.

  • People are only going to take so much!

  • Republicans believe in the most fantastic theories... lol

  • and Liberals don't????? Obama wants everyone's money, so everyone will die equally poor! Don't you leftists remember the Soviet Union????? hello read a history book! this is how it began in USSR, a political (socialist) leader and his comrades, promised the Poor all these outlandish things, and after they got in power they Fu*ked over EVERYONE, Except themselves, EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE, Obama is even keeping track of people who speak out against him.

  • Don't bother. Liberals don't know, or understand history.

    Liberals simply and blindly worship an philosophy based upon how they 'feel' about their ideas. They are not interested in discussion, disagreement, facts or results.

    Liberals filter knowledge and when they do attain knowledge they have no idea how to apply it.

    They are rigid and closed minded to their faith in the State.

    They have identified problems within our Healthcare system [which are real] and their solution is to destroy it.

  • Obama addressed all the crazyies about death panels at the Town hall he had. I don't have any faith in either party, but I at least try to look into facts instead of Glenn Beck. As a former Repub I laugh at the stuff that is made up about Obama every day. FYI the person who recommended health care reform 1st was a Repub. There is no such thing as a facist socialist since they're on opposite sides of the political spectrum, if anything Repubs are the facist just look at the last administration.

  • Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

    Someone remix that lol.

  • Fuck republicans and Fuck democrats can someone name a party that can bring a final solution.

  • Nationalsocialistiska arbetar partei :)!

  • I live in norway, and health insurance just sounds stupid.

  • I pay $15,000 in premiums for around $1000 a year of care. That's a rip off. Ins companies are the richest companies in the world, thanks to favorable legislation from Congress. It's no coincidence, that the second I decided to completely drop my health insurance policy and self insure, Congress decided to FORCE me to buy insurance, at crazy high profit margins to the Insurance companies, or go to jail.

    Federal agents guns will force me to make the richest companies in the world, even richer.

  • I don't live in a Democracy I live in a Republic. It turned into a Democracy after you covered up Kennedy's death with your Warren Commission traitorous single bullet theory. You will be judged by God for that.

  • both parties are a bunch of fucked up groups. its not about the people anymore its about a party, maybe when one of them takes a bullet in the head they will see the light-we talk about other governments, look at ours first before we judge others

  • This is an interesting video. You should check out/subscribe to my channel.

    It's new, but hopefully you will like at least one of the videos.

    More will be added later.

  • GOD IS GONNA JUDGE THEE!

    LOL- the last gasp of the uneducated white man.

  • America was ripped apart by liberals just like they rip the innocent us citizens out of the womb then smile as the vacuum thier brain. THIS can not stand!!

    God bless fox news and this patriot for speaking TRUTH to power

  • i DONT from USA, but i want to know what is about the health care of USA, and what is about the reform.., if anyone can tell me, i will thanks you.

    PD: Sorry my english

  • These representatives don't know shit. I would have given him a piece of my mind.

  • Oh and it's not a Democracy : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections---- It's a Republic :a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law! Their is a big difference.Read the Anti-Federalist papers.

  • the liberal goal here is to have obama like hugo chavez is, a ruthless dictator holding the power of life and death over downs kids and the elderly. If they dont produce "liberal productivity" they are put before a death panel

  • I'm gonna guess that's not the case and that the Democrats are modelling the health plan after European countries where the populace is satisfied with their healthcare.

    You know, the most rampant neoliberal- that's a conservative to you- Margaret Thatcher, who ardently followed people like von Mises and Hayek and privatized and denationalized everything possible, left 'socialized healthcare' be.

    You know why?

    Because it works.

  • C'mon, man. Setting up troll accounts is no way to further the discussion.

    Retire it and come speak your mind for real.

  • This guy sound like a ree-tard for real. He actually invokes god's wrath on this guy lol! he probably watches glen beck

  • There's a word for people who think their turn to talk is more important than another person's:

    ASSHOLES.

  • Are you people so stupid? Do you want socialism? We're on the edge of civil war dumb asses. Keep pushing you Nazi- Democrat agenda! When free people are pushed it to government controlled life styles they will kill to stop it. It's not like you live in a third world country with no choice. Free men who have tasted freedom would rather die in the streets fighting you people then live under your thumbs! Yes Demonazi's war is coming! Oh shit and you don't believe in gun ownership!

  • 30 questions... that is pathetic, and downright lazy. These jackasses need to do some work... that's what we pay them for...

  • WAIT A MINUTE!

  • WAIT A MINUTE!!!

  • Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility...

    - Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow

    [part of the Tripoli of Barbary treaty. Sent to the floor of the Senate, read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved, June 7, 1797. signed and proudly proclaimed to the Nation by John Adams.]

  • The Christian God is a being of terrific character-cruel, vindictive, capricious and unjust

    - Thomas Jefferson

    Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone upon man

    - Thomas Jefferson

    Lighthouses are more useful than churches

    - Benjamin Franklin

    The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity

    - John Adams

  • Oh, I like these. Are these really genuine? This would give those bible thumpers a run for their money.

  • p00lman, Yes, the quotes from the Founding Fathers are genuine. If only more people would actually research their history it would be common knowledge that this country was NOT founded on Christian principles (despite what the Religious Right says). Most who wrote the Declaration of Independence were in fact Deists.

    The Founding Fathers - which these bible-thumpers use as excuses for their stupidity and crusades - would no doubt be against how much religion is now brought into politics.

  • chris:

    The majority of Founding Fathers were Christian -- in fact, most were Protestant. If you studied history, you would know that we were indeed founded on Christian principles. It's irrefutable

    Protestants, like our founding fathers believe in free will. No one is forced to believe, no one is forced to worship due to Govt mandates (which is what they ran from)

    Yes, Christian Principles. That's why you find the 10 Commandments hanging on the walls of the Supreme Court & Capitol

  • 2010GOP, You're absolutely wrong. How many more time are you going to use the failed "10 Commandments hanging on the Supreme Court/Capitol walls" point?

    I realize I'm not going to change your mind (is there even a mind to change?). It's just amazing that someone could actually state the bullshit that you have as a fact. Is watching Glenn Beck your idea of "studying history"? Is the Old Testament or the New Testament your history book?

    I'm not sure why you're calling me "chris" either.

  • chris: I'm obviously shortening your name (character count + you're not christ)

    You can't explain why the 10 Commandments are on the wall of both of those places, in addition to: Psalm 19:1 engraved on a wall of the Library of Congress. --- and yet you claim our founding principles are not Christian

    TONS of other evidence

  • Um.

    1) The majoriy of the founding fathers were Deists--not Christians, who fled the Anglican Church. The ones that were Christian were in favor of the separation of church and state because they saw the Anglican Church as being corrupted by the King.

    2) Virtually all Christian references that exist to this day came out of the McCarthy era, and did not exist before then. The most obvious one being that "...one nation, indivisible" was replaced with "one nation, under God, indivisible".

  • There was no separation of Religion and Gov't that is an EROSIONIST LIE. There was RELIGION all over the STATE. They even paid to print the first Bible printed in USA.

    BTW what is the meannig fo eth word DEISTS and what is it's root?

    You GOOGLE GENIUSES are moronic

  • ricdiablo: I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are

    The majority of the Founding Fathers were Protestant --- I suggest you do some more research in "real" history books

    Your comment proves you do not understand Sep of Church & State

    That was implemented when the Danbury Baptist wanted Federal Funding to build a church. The Govt didn't want to dedicate money to a certain denomination (i.e. Baptist, Methodist, etc)

  • wow someone doesn't like what is said...

    responses go from 53 minutes to 14 hours ago.

    what happened to 13 hours of comments?

  • This was in a heavily Republican district.McCain won it 59% to 40%.

  • I said wait a minute dammit!

  • Dammit!

    Wait a minute!

  • Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute!
  • Wait a minute.

  • Our schools are crap,our highways are crap,welfare is a joke.Those are just a few examples of how well our government runs things.

    And some of you people really think putting the government in charge of one more thing like our health is a good idea?

    $30,000 for a toilet seat,$9000 for a hammer...remember those prices our government paid? You really think health care costs will go down?

    Dream on.

    Stop the following either party blindly and think for yourself,don't be a sheeple.

  • Speaking of blind sheep . . .

  • Our veterans hospitals are a perfect example of government run health care. Its pathetic that the people who served our country have to tolerate health care like whats being given to them now. If they cant provide quality healthcare for our vets, what makes people think they will provide quality healthcare for everyone else?

  • The whole point is to overhaul the system already in place and improve it.

  • kudos for this specter for raising his voice.

  • people who don't understand how the government works, too distracted with their small lives until they get worked up by right wing radio, should stay out of the conversation.

  • It's like that Simpson's episode where side-show Bob is running for mayor and he goes to the retirement home to listen to old coots yammering about Matlock. That's what these stupid town hall meetings are like; just opinionated, misinformed old douche-bags whingeing about stuff they don't understand.

  • all 300 million people think they have a right to be heard by their congressmen? Even worse is that they think they have anything ANYTHING important to say. I don't even have anything important to say, and yet Im still here on youtube. What is the matter with us Americans?

  • Pride and arrogance, mostly. Then there's racism, xenophobia, religious fanaticism, paranoia . . .

    They never learned the difference between a healthy amount of fear and an irrational amount of fear.