wondering why the watchtower basement key, used to imprison havel is in the hands of andre of astoras petrified body atop the moonlight butterflies tower.. with andre being just a blacksmith, (and i think he is intertwined somehow in the story), is it possible he could have something to do with Havels imprisonment? the basement key also implies that havel was 'turned' hollow. I think his humanity was stolen, and i also have a hunch that Reah steals humanity(possibly from Havel as well).
Honestly, I think Petras just resented Raea. It's why he abandoned her and why he later kills her if the option is available. He thought she was weak, spoiled, naive and worthless. He was sent away to a hellish land in order to protect her and he clearly hates her for it and his current situation.
Petrus could be a Darkwraith, there are broken red eye stones along with his equipment in the 4 chests near his location. And Oswald of Carim talks about him, so he probably pays Oswald to be absolved from sins so that he can switch covenant every time he wants.
epic i found the the hollowed corpse in the dukes archives before i met patches and he kicked me into the pit and Rhea was still down there with hollow vince and nico any thoughts
"The Great Hollow" reminds me of the area in Demon's Souls , right before you encounter the true King Allant, They have the similar dead tree , woodland design , could they be possibly connected?
What you said about Reah being captured, I sort of have my own view on this. It's a little stupid and all speculation, but I think she chose to go there. I believe she was looking for information to right the things she blamed herself for. (Her guards being killed) Like Seath wanted the books to find the scales of immortality, I believe she wanted to use a power like that. But lost her mind as she couldn't find it. She felt this change and locked herself in the cell.
After seeing this video(and rerolling new characters a couple of times lol) I decided to save Reah from Petrus' shitstorm and take the douche out in advance. And how does she thank me?...
EXTREMELY interesting bit of information: "Vereor Nox," means, "fear the night," in Latin. Members of the Way of White will say this to you as you leave. What does this mean? You decide.
@AntoninusPious Miracles seem to be mostly connected to sunlight/the sun, whereas sorcory is often moon related. Thus Way of the White members would fear the "night" because the sun is not present at night.
It might be worth noting that if you are killed by Petrus after having Reah back in the Undead Church and after exhausting dialogues with him, he willl say "Too bad for you, for I am a wolf in sheep's clothing". That would then seem like his main goal all the time was to deceive Reah and her bodyguards/classmates and perhaps even you.
Hey ENB, do you know WHAT the pendant does and have you translated the Japanese version of the game, for the pendant's description? Since it's wrong on the English version.
as the lords gains power through the first souls and oppose the dragons. The dragons thought of a last resort in which a furtive pygmy discovered the dark soul in order to bring back the age of ancients which is dark. Thus, the incomplete dragon primordial serpent kaathe awaited a potential undead who would one day become the dark lord preserving the world which was once before. Stealing all of man's humanities thus leaving them hollow and to correct the wrongs of the past,lords souls controlled
I love ur dark souls plot vids, don't stop! As for my analysis, I dont think petrus is a hollow mainly cuz in game he's very almost fearful of the player character who is an undead. Also the whole human world money thing. Plus if he was an undead don't u think he would've been driven hollow by the end if his story?
as an added note to your interesting theory about Petrus, he owns currency from the living world, such as copper coins and such. What would an undead need of these?
@YourfriendOmenBoy Also, the npcs in the game have a lot of dialogue, they're just easy to skip by. Many npcs also have their own 'questline' which are difficult to follow too but shed a lot of light on their backstory.
I wondered about Sen too considering the entire fort is named after him. I like the idea the Crestfallen Merchant is Sen who managed to escape all the demons in the fortress by using his ultimate trick/trap by breaking the bridge himself once he'd got across and isolated himself to survive as his fortress is designed to be full and traps. He is slowly going insane on his own after losing his entire fortress but being such a strong and intelligent character keeps it together to
@gentlegiant80 help you and possibly save him as he would have to be one of the stronger and smarter characters as he controls the fortress and designed it. He is clearly strong as he has steel armour and smart as he presumably broke the bridge (how else could it have been broken?) Maybe once Ricard died he finally gave in and saved himself? Just an idea I don't have any evidence to support this but I really like your idea.
Seriously though.... I got no indication of ANY story in this game. So how the fuck did you guys get all these character names and shit, when they weren't even said in the goddamn game?!
Not sure if this has been said, BUT, i had sinned and was on my way to request absolution, and i decided to try the "Talk" command when talking to the guy who is in the bell tower after the gargoyles, (sorry i can't remember his name), but anyway, he confirms that petrus is responsible for Rhea's death, as he says, "Have you met petrus of thorolund, i wager you would have much in common, for is he not too drenched in sin, HEH HEH HEH HEH". Just thought i would share this in case.
Video length: 1337 ! Also, this is some real shit you're talking about, I agree with everything, as I've also researched a lot about the Dark Souls lore...
Petrus is not undead - I've no idea how people thought he WAS Undead to begin with. Firstly, he's a human NPC. I've never seen any Undead NPCs who can talk to the player in Dark Souls.
He also never uses Estus flasks, but he actually can cast a heal miracle when you hurt him. I invite you to check this video at about 38 seconds:
@MichelKobayashi Most of the NPCs in Dark Souls are undead, if not all of them. You are failing to make the distinction between Human Undead and Hollowed Undead. The former can regain some measure of a human form to put the process of becoming hollow on hold. A living human would theoretically have infinite humanity under this system. Petrus being human or not is a tossup, but he would be one of the only living humans in the game.
@MetalSlimeHunt You're right, I totally wanted to say Hollow, not Undead. I'm stupid. Forget what I say about the undead stuff in my late post everyone.
@MichelKobayashi There's a female undead merchant by the shortcut that you have to open from firelink shrine to reach the depths. She talks to you, as does the other undead merchant on the lower level of undead burg.
Epic, I'm a huge fan of your videos, and I've seen people asking for advice in the comments, so I thought it'd be a good thing for me to do.
Anyay, let's get to the point, I just turned 14, and there is some hair growing on my face. Today I noticed that it was visible, and i tried to shave it off, but I got 4 cuts on my face.
Is there any way you can help me? I don't like to talk to my dad about puberty, so can you comment as soon as possible?
I never really joined the way of white because I made my character to be purely melee, thought I pussed out a little bit halfway through it and started using pyromancy, but just for the great chaos fireball.
Wait... Havel is a bishop? You mean that big dude that can one shot you with a dragon's bone/tooth/whatever the size of a horse is a pirest? Holy crap.
@Sperium3000 The funny thing is, back in the day when priests back in the day could become knights, it was only a sin if you drew blood, so they used blunt weapons to break their opponents bones and cause internal trauma, and the dragon's tooth is fairly bloody blunt. :P Unsure if it is intentional or not, but I found it a pretty awesome touch in the game.
@NightF101 If they thought about that then it's pretty clever. But I don't think a blunt weapon will kill a guy without taking blood. I mean, if you bash a dude's face in or whak him in the knee, chances are there will be some amount of blood. Or brains in the former's case.
This has probably already been posted, but it's confirmed that Leeroy's trip into the Catacombs failed because he appears as a hollow spirit just before Nito's room.
HOWEVER, comma, Nito is the "first of the dead", so logic could dictate that Nito must be the Church' s enemy. SSOOO .. in a way, a Puppeteer Gwyn may be possible.
This may just be speculation on my part, but wouldn't Velka be a "ancient lord" if the "Gods" included Gwyn and Co.? Perhaps there is a second pantheon headed by Allfather Lloyd?
Worth looking into is whether or not being undead is the natural state of things as the power of the First Flame fades. If you're looking for a reason why things die, I'd blame Nito. Have no idea what it means when his Lord Soul says most of its power was given to Death, but that's as good an explanation as any : things don't die on their own. Going Hollow is losing hope and insanity in the face of immortality, and the rest of death is a gift of the First Flame, via Nito.
Primary thing : assuming Gwyn has some master plan is futile, as he is hollow in the Kiln of the First Flame. He gave up all his power to link the fires, and that's why he is called the Lord of Cinder. He's just burnt out. Fairly certain it's his body that becomes the bonfire you link at the end, just like the other bosses. Secondly, it's important to note that it is likely Gwyn who imprisoned his old battle companion, Havel, in the watchtower basement (see watchtower basement key).
My guess is that this isn't the first time Petrus had to help pilgrims, being there on holy mission for a long time and finally snapped, entertaining himself by dooming people he already thinks will fail.
i do not belive that gwyn is a member of way of the white because soliar wishs to follow in his footsteps as a sunlight warrior to find his own sun as gwyn did also in new game+ you can offer gywns soul to the covenant to obtain the sunlight spear miracle wich i would assume thats means gwyn either was a sunlight warrior or created the covenant
According to the Item Description of an Estus Flask: Clerics can also use Estus! Undead can mimic it. ->Petrus does not necessarily have to be an undead!
Hey Epic, off topic I know and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but have you found any actual or possible usages for the pendant in the game?
I enjoy these lore videos very much keeping them coming! I sadly lost my Dark Souls copy and have no speculation to add. My lost copy has depressed me into simply stalking these videos. KEEP THEM COMING!!
I find all of this extremely interesting. The more the better/cover it all/as much as you can/know, approach. There so much, and maybe even more so, so spread out, that it can be very hard to get a good grasp of it all. See all the connections/make all the pieces of the puzzle fall in place. Videos like these are invaluable when it comes to lore like this.Thanks for putting in the time and effort to make them. Much appreciated!
All the existing NPCs in the game are undead (some of them are hollow, others become hollows), but I agree that the fact Petrus uses estus is interesting.
No idea if this has been posted yet, but how Reah got to dukes can be found in the description for the sens fortress cage key.
"If a hapless adventurer becomes fatigued during an imprudent attempt to overcome the fortress, the serpent men will not kill him, but lock him up in a lonely cage. Eventually, unless they have forgotten, they drag the victim off to who-knows-where."
Remember the lizard men in the Dukes Prison? Yup. So, Rhea tried to go through sens (to anor londo?) and got captured.
@SBCurley So what about Logan? He was captured at Sen's and I freed him. Next time I see him he's in TDA in a cell. Did he get captured again at Sen's?
@Swash74 I think griggs says something about Logan leaving to learn more sorceries or something, so He probably went after Seath and was defeated, and put in a cell, just like you.
Will you do more of these videos? I'd like to see some more lore, even on Demon souls. I began playing at Dark souls so I always was curious how demon souls ties in.
@swe123swe Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are actually unrelated. They have some cameos, but that's it. I will be doing at least one or two more lore vids, and I may continue longer depending on how much people are interested.
@EpicNameBro I don't believe that to be honest. Remember the broken archstone in Demon's Souls? Remember how it was the land of giants? Well guess what Lordran has?
Also, I believe Gwyn is the reason the archstone was broken. He started the age of fire and the archstone was destroyed cutting off Lordran from the other archstones.
It kinda makes sense, and the only reason it wasn't named Demon's Souls 2 was because it was multiplatform.
@swe123swe As Epic already said DS doesn't tie into DkS at all... but I just wanted to comment that dude DS is a fantastic game... if you like DkS, then for God's sake go out and get DS! It is just a GREAT game and in some ways is better than DkS... but overall it is not better
Actually Oswald says to the player that Petrus "Too is drenched in sin" as in you and petrus are drenched in sin, not that he is not to drenched in sin.
Oswald might be saying petrus is not too drenched in sin because he is doing the right thing. The clerics are trying to link the fire and petrus may be trying to prevent them from doing that. Therefore Oswald saying petrus isn't drenched in sin could mean that he agrees with what petrus is doing. More evidence that the link the fire ending is actually bad.
I think maybe Petrus is there to see that Rhea and her companions don't make it out of the catacombs, or maybe he sees to it on account of distaste for royalty. Perhaps he has a deal with patches before to kill the clerics that enter the catacombs, since patches clearly tries his best to kill you if you say you are a cleric, and even if you don't. It seems to me that petrus, being older, has led many clerics into the catacombs and to the same fate.
Thorolund Talisman item description says it's only granted to high-ranking clerics, and yet it Petrus just sells you one. Why is he carrying extra?
Also, guess who else sells you Thorolund Talisman? Patches, who obviously looted it from some Cleric he probably had killed.
It's possible Petrus had a comrade die and he took the talisman with him, nothing suspicious about that, but why does he care so little for it that he just sells it to some undead for pocket change?
Interestingly, Oswald of Carim mentions Petrus, and even says how he is "not too drenched in sin" or something like that. How does Oswald know Petrus and how much he has sinned? Possibly Petrus has requested absolution from Oswald before, to cover up previous crimes? How many undead pilgrimagers has Petrus left to die before?
Keep it up Epic! Also, instead of just thinking about thing's that aren't handed out straight to the player, you should collect all the lore readily avalible and summarise it. For example, Lloyd talsmins stuff, all that goodness and how it all connects, before how it immediately translates to the game.
@wehadagoodlife Rhea turns hostile as do her protecters, so if they aren't already there, or haven't journeyed into the catacombs yet, they'll fight you and their story won't continue. The time I killed him that kept Rhea alive but not hostile was when she went into the chapel, but before traveling to two other locations, which means Petrus may be considering murder, but you can kill him before he commits it, and Rhea won't mind because Petrus made his intentions clear.
i must know of the PENDANT! its driving me crazy.... although the more i dig into it, i think its just a torturous gift that From Software threw into the game just to drive people like me into an insanely psychotic rage....From Soft is sadistic after all.
@QuanticBlitzStudio I think the Bonfire in Land of the Giants ,the place you're in is to the left of the NPC called Patches,down the ladder.I havent done it myself.
great vid man, very informative, complete speculation ( i could be wrong, if so please tell me) it has to do with the fact that rhea has a pendant. there is some further speculation that the pendant is connected to the furtive pygmy. is it possible that petrus knows this and that is the reason he kills rhea?
@QuanticBlitzStudio You can use the sunlight maggot (from poor Solaire), the lantern (drop from the necromancer dudes in catacombs) or the sorcery 'cast light' to make that place much easier :) Sorry if you knew that and it's still hard... try ranging the crawling enemies? Actually you can probably run past a lot of that level, once you know where you're going
@QuanticBlitzStudio The first Catacombes bonfire is past the room with the first ladder down to the piles of bones room when you start the catacombes.Kill the necromancer there and the skeletons shouldnt respawn in that area anymore.Make you you have a Divine weapon in there otherwise skeletons will keep rising from the dead,unless you kill all the necromancers.
I think a video about Lautrec of carim will be good. Much speculation about him, why was he caged in the undead parish? Might he be Gwyns son? He gives out sunlight medals. Why does he want to kill the fire keeper?
@QuanticBlitzStudio Just keep leveling up your weapons and armour and the bosses become so much easier.All you then have to do is learn when to attack ,when to run and when to dodge.
you ever considered doing a level 1 playthrough of the game?
i'm doing one myself, even though i have yet to finish the game with my normal level 80 character.
but i have to say that i enjoy the level 1 game a lot more than the normal game, probably due to the fact that i have to watch out more and plan things
An interesting thing to note in the White Seance Ring description. It says it belongs to the Head Bishop of the Way of White and apostle TO All Father Lloyd. As in, the ring does not belong to Llyod at all, but to a different person who is apparently Llyod's right-hand man. This person is also evidently the one in charge of the Way of White, not Llyod. That's speculation of course, because there's no documentation stating that the head Bishop is in charge. It could still be Llyod.
I don't know if it's already been said but I talked to the bishop at the 1st bell tower. And he said Petrus and I were alike and that Petrus is drowned in sin or something like that.
Dude thank you for a speculative video like this, sorry I'm late on posting but I wanted to suggest this, but you being the genius that you are you beat me to it. Much live from philly keep it up.
Great video, man. First video response I've done. I've read all that I can read about Dark Souls lore and I'm curious what you think Seathe is crushing in the intro video. Its obvious that he has betrayed the dragons, but not obvious how he did so. Nothing in Dukes Archives seems to explain this, unless playing some smooth R&B music is the key to a dragons heart.
And there's the pendant again. What does it do? Is it used for anything? will we ever find out!? Loved the video Epic! Keep the vids coming. God I love the soul franchise!
I don't have any speculation to add, I just wanna ask you to please, PLEASE, make more of these lore vids. I've done 5 thorough playthroughs of this game and can't even begin to make sense of most of the stuff going on, and this vid actually helped quite a bit.
This was great. I got lost sometimes but it was still great! you see I never got Dark Souls but i was seriously considering it and love the lore! Keep em comin.
ok this is my speculations with a few facts thrown in in the beginning cinematic it says Gwyn the lord of sunlight so imo (and the lightning bolts that you can only get with said covenant) he directly has nothing to do with the way of white but maybe Kingseeker Frampt created the way of white as a way to aid lord Gwyn and release him from his curse so Darkstalker Kaathe made the Darkstalker covenant to go against what Frampt was trying to achieve and keep a DARK lord
@OlympusOdysseus I would like to, but it's a matter of time. I'll be changing the format up a bit for the next vid, but it still won't be perfect.
Ideally I want to show every item and dialogue I talk about in the vid, but I decided to just ask people to use the links in the description to save myself the hours of recording, editing, etc., that I would need to do.
When I first played Dark Souls, and saw my character looking like a mummy, I thought holy shit, he looks just like the old monk without his clothes. In Dark Souls you start off in an asylum and the level for the old monk for starts off in a prison no? tower of latria? I thought there was some connection. Then I met patches, at the tomb of the giants in dark souls. In Demon souls, there was a broken archstone that was supposed to take you to the land of the giants. unrelated the video though :(
I was thinking,what if solaire is actually gwyn searching for his son (the firstborn)?In one of the dialogues(in lost izalith) he says "my dear sun",which would be more logical to be "my dear son".
Epic, you are so great! You care so much about your subscribers, and make so high quality videos. Love this story speculation. You erned evry subsrciber, and I hope u get MANY more ;)
Just thinking on what you saris on petrus manet it was all planned out because he is human or not hollow or whatever.he probably didn't want to be apart of any of this so he used patches to dispatch vince and nico, so rhea is alone making her able to kill so he wouldn't have any one kill him.I don't that's just my opinion
I would very much enjoy more of these videos. It's more to do with I have the same thoughts as you about these things so I feel less crazy, lol. It's also nice hearing another person input on the foundations of the lore that we know are 100% as well and not just, as you said, "trusting the wiki" as an end of all answers/speculations. (: Good stuff, thank you. <3
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Gumbo550 9 hours ago
wondering why the watchtower basement key, used to imprison havel is in the hands of andre of astoras petrified body atop the moonlight butterflies tower.. with andre being just a blacksmith, (and i think he is intertwined somehow in the story), is it possible he could have something to do with Havels imprisonment? the basement key also implies that havel was 'turned' hollow. I think his humanity was stolen, and i also have a hunch that Reah steals humanity(possibly from Havel as well).
StayDubbin 17 hours ago
Honestly, I think Petras just resented Raea. It's why he abandoned her and why he later kills her if the option is available. He thought she was weak, spoiled, naive and worthless. He was sent away to a hellish land in order to protect her and he clearly hates her for it and his current situation.
papabungle 20 hours ago
Petrus could be a Darkwraith, there are broken red eye stones along with his equipment in the 4 chests near his location. And Oswald of Carim talks about him, so he probably pays Oswald to be absolved from sins so that he can switch covenant every time he wants.
gp27tube 2 days ago
maybe the woman in duke's archives is not Rhea....what do you think of that ?
SuperFreezman 3 days ago
epic i found the the hollowed corpse in the dukes archives before i met patches and he kicked me into the pit and Rhea was still down there with hollow vince and nico any thoughts
blackdojo 4 days ago
love this vid more lore for sure
kurzrockable 4 days ago in playlist Dark Souls Lore
"The Great Hollow" reminds me of the area in Demon's Souls , right before you encounter the true King Allant, They have the similar dead tree , woodland design , could they be possibly connected?
UFCvsPRIDEfc09 4 days ago
What you said about Reah being captured, I sort of have my own view on this. It's a little stupid and all speculation, but I think she chose to go there. I believe she was looking for information to right the things she blamed herself for. (Her guards being killed) Like Seath wanted the books to find the scales of immortality, I believe she wanted to use a power like that. But lost her mind as she couldn't find it. She felt this change and locked herself in the cell.
pedroandfrankensheep 5 days ago
more please
deaththekid12349 1 week ago
Northernlion brought me here :)
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...She sends her boy-toys after my ass o_0
That ungrateful bitch _
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After seeing this video(and rerolling new characters a couple of times lol) I decided to save Reah from Petrus' shitstorm and take the douche out in advance. And how does she thank me?...
TheShinobiSan 1 week ago
EXTREMELY interesting bit of information: "Vereor Nox," means, "fear the night," in Latin. Members of the Way of White will say this to you as you leave. What does this mean? You decide.
AntoninusPious 1 week ago
@AntoninusPious Miracles seem to be mostly connected to sunlight/the sun, whereas sorcory is often moon related. Thus Way of the White members would fear the "night" because the sun is not present at night.
firelegendmushroom 1 week ago
@AntoninusPious In Dark souls dark areas are often harder than normal area IE compare the Tomb of the giants vs Anor Londo
icefly20 1 week ago
It might be worth noting that if you are killed by Petrus after having Reah back in the Undead Church and after exhausting dialogues with him, he willl say "Too bad for you, for I am a wolf in sheep's clothing". That would then seem like his main goal all the time was to deceive Reah and her bodyguards/classmates and perhaps even you.
FantasticHermitCrab 1 week ago
Hey ENB, do you know WHAT the pendant does and have you translated the Japanese version of the game, for the pendant's description? Since it's wrong on the English version.
Shugo489 1 week ago
wait...... im not getting any of this...
L3G1T0Sh1T 1 week ago
Like how you managed to get the vid time to 13:37
I see what you did there
Wadafakdude 1 week ago
as the lords gains power through the first souls and oppose the dragons. The dragons thought of a last resort in which a furtive pygmy discovered the dark soul in order to bring back the age of ancients which is dark. Thus, the incomplete dragon primordial serpent kaathe awaited a potential undead who would one day become the dark lord preserving the world which was once before. Stealing all of man's humanities thus leaving them hollow and to correct the wrongs of the past,lords souls controlled
TheBenhyuga 1 week ago
I think Petrus trades in souls because the more souls you get the more powerfull??
Perrobero 1 week ago
I love ur dark souls plot vids, don't stop! As for my analysis, I dont think petrus is a hollow mainly cuz in game he's very almost fearful of the player character who is an undead. Also the whole human world money thing. Plus if he was an undead don't u think he would've been driven hollow by the end if his story?
JackthehackAtack 1 week ago
as an added note to your interesting theory about Petrus, he owns currency from the living world, such as copper coins and such. What would an undead need of these?
GarlandFraser 2 weeks ago
petrus never goes hollow though?
uberkid5 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro
@YourfriendOmenBoy Also, the npcs in the game have a lot of dialogue, they're just easy to skip by. Many npcs also have their own 'questline' which are difficult to follow too but shed a lot of light on their backstory.
anchorhock 2 weeks ago
Ok. This is random, but why is Sen's Fortress titled that? Who is Sen? Why is Crestfallen Merchant there? Is the Crestfallen Merchant Sen?
TurtTulStudios 2 weeks ago
@TurtTulStudios
I wondered about Sen too considering the entire fort is named after him. I like the idea the Crestfallen Merchant is Sen who managed to escape all the demons in the fortress by using his ultimate trick/trap by breaking the bridge himself once he'd got across and isolated himself to survive as his fortress is designed to be full and traps. He is slowly going insane on his own after losing his entire fortress but being such a strong and intelligent character keeps it together to
gentlegiant80 1 week ago
@gentlegiant80 help you and possibly save him as he would have to be one of the stronger and smarter characters as he controls the fortress and designed it. He is clearly strong as he has steel armour and smart as he presumably broke the bridge (how else could it have been broken?) Maybe once Ricard died he finally gave in and saved himself? Just an idea I don't have any evidence to support this but I really like your idea.
gentlegiant80 1 week ago
@YourfriendOmenBoy read the description...
forzaken66 2 weeks ago
Seriously though.... I got no indication of ANY story in this game. So how the fuck did you guys get all these character names and shit, when they weren't even said in the goddamn game?!
YourfriendOmenBoy 2 weeks ago
Not sure if this has been said, BUT, i had sinned and was on my way to request absolution, and i decided to try the "Talk" command when talking to the guy who is in the bell tower after the gargoyles, (sorry i can't remember his name), but anyway, he confirms that petrus is responsible for Rhea's death, as he says, "Have you met petrus of thorolund, i wager you would have much in common, for is he not too drenched in sin, HEH HEH HEH HEH". Just thought i would share this in case.
SaxonGUYZ 2 weeks ago
f*ck'in Heineken Advert!!
BisonTony 2 weeks ago
i think the real mystery in dark souls is how your hip glows :P
imaawesome222 2 weeks ago
@TheSuperrrtomas go balls deep on your ass, all i gotta say
nightsgasp 2 weeks ago
i love these vids this game does a fucking well job to hide the story but its so fricking interesting lol great job deciphering all this XD
Poiznjaw 2 weeks ago
Could you make a video explaining the back story of Laurtrec?
superninja505 2 weeks ago
Video length: 1337 ! Also, this is some real shit you're talking about, I agree with everything, as I've also researched a lot about the Dark Souls lore...
Althem0j0 2 weeks ago
its amazing there can be this much back story and the game NEVER explains it. so frustrating
JOBOB335 2 weeks ago
Note the video length. :P
acetrainer95 3 weeks ago 30
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Petrus is not undead - I've no idea how people thought he WAS Undead to begin with. Firstly, he's a human NPC. I've never seen any Undead NPCs who can talk to the player in Dark Souls.
He also never uses Estus flasks, but he actually can cast a heal miracle when you hurt him. I invite you to check this video at about 38 seconds:
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=8fzbBKMykaU&t=0m38s
MichelKobayashi 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro
@MichelKobayashi Most of the NPCs in Dark Souls are undead, if not all of them. You are failing to make the distinction between Human Undead and Hollowed Undead. The former can regain some measure of a human form to put the process of becoming hollow on hold. A living human would theoretically have infinite humanity under this system. Petrus being human or not is a tossup, but he would be one of the only living humans in the game.
MetalSlimeHunt 3 weeks ago
@MetalSlimeHunt You're right, I totally wanted to say Hollow, not Undead. I'm stupid. Forget what I say about the undead stuff in my late post everyone.
MichelKobayashi 3 weeks ago
@MichelKobayashi There's a female undead merchant by the shortcut that you have to open from firelink shrine to reach the depths. She talks to you, as does the other undead merchant on the lower level of undead burg.
SwearingIsCaring 2 weeks ago
@SwearingIsCaring I meant Hollow in my previous post. And there's 2 undead merchants actually.
MichelKobayashi 2 weeks ago
Please do a video on the tomb of the giants and Nito and the gravelords!!!
AMoroseMelonhead 3 weeks ago
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Hey bro! Just wanted to say thank for the shoutout and that I'm glad the dialogues I recorded helped you out.
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PS: I'd like some feedback on my English!
TheSuperrrtomas 3 weeks ago
Epic, I'm a huge fan of your videos, and I've seen people asking for advice in the comments, so I thought it'd be a good thing for me to do.
Anyay, let's get to the point, I just turned 14, and there is some hair growing on my face. Today I noticed that it was visible, and i tried to shave it off, but I got 4 cuts on my face.
Is there any way you can help me? I don't like to talk to my dad about puberty, so can you comment as soon as possible?
TheSuperrrtomas 3 weeks ago
P.S. I killed Petrus right from the get-go ^_^
TheShinobiSan 3 weeks ago
Thumbs up if you're listening to this while playing Dark Souls.
TheShinobiSan 3 weeks ago
I LOVE this lore. Keep up the videos.
The game has an epic story. The fact it is up to the player to interpret it only makes it better.
thecodemachine 3 weeks ago
do more of this
AwesomeRofalamao 3 weeks ago
I never really joined the way of white because I made my character to be purely melee, thought I pussed out a little bit halfway through it and started using pyromancy, but just for the great chaos fireball.
Sperium3000 3 weeks ago
Wait... Havel is a bishop? You mean that big dude that can one shot you with a dragon's bone/tooth/whatever the size of a horse is a pirest? Holy crap.
Sperium3000 3 weeks ago 22
@Sperium3000 Not only does he touch little boys. but gods themselves.
StayDubbin 2 days ago in playlist Dark souls lore
@Sperium3000 The funny thing is, back in the day when priests back in the day could become knights, it was only a sin if you drew blood, so they used blunt weapons to break their opponents bones and cause internal trauma, and the dragon's tooth is fairly bloody blunt. :P Unsure if it is intentional or not, but I found it a pretty awesome touch in the game.
NightF101 21 hours ago
@NightF101 If they thought about that then it's pretty clever. But I don't think a blunt weapon will kill a guy without taking blood. I mean, if you bash a dude's face in or whak him in the knee, chances are there will be some amount of blood. Or brains in the former's case.
Sperium3000 19 hours ago
some very interesting stuff love it
MrSilentmelody13 3 weeks ago
I appreciate this video series to no end. Dark Souls has become my favorite game ever and I love lore talk ... I'm a hardcore lore nerd, lol!
LifegrindX 3 weeks ago
This has probably already been posted, but it's confirmed that Leeroy's trip into the Catacombs failed because he appears as a hollow spirit just before Nito's room.
Mayhemzz 3 weeks ago
@Mayhemzz He also appears as a phantom (helpful) just before Pinwheel. Why he's friendly before invading you I don't even.
Belson476 3 weeks ago
It shows in the dynamic way of the white theme that Petrus doesnt go through in killing Reah
00MirageKnight00 3 weeks ago
look how long the video is! epic!
Jakeanatorable 3 weeks ago
yes do more of these videos please :)
CrestfallenPianist 3 weeks ago
HOWEVER, comma, Nito is the "first of the dead", so logic could dictate that Nito must be the Church' s enemy. SSOOO .. in a way, a Puppeteer Gwyn may be possible.
TheShinobiSan 3 weeks ago
Out of all nine covenants, Chaos worships the Witch of Izalith, Sunshine scouts=Lord Gwyn, and the Gravelords=Nito.
If Lloyd's teachings ibcluded Gwyn, then the Witch and Nito would've also been referenced in the dialogue in a positive light...
TheShinobiSan 3 weeks ago
This may just be speculation on my part, but wouldn't Velka be a "ancient lord" if the "Gods" included Gwyn and Co.? Perhaps there is a second pantheon headed by Allfather Lloyd?
TheShinobiSan 3 weeks ago
Please make more of these videos!!!
bgreenjr7149 3 weeks ago
Worth looking into is whether or not being undead is the natural state of things as the power of the First Flame fades. If you're looking for a reason why things die, I'd blame Nito. Have no idea what it means when his Lord Soul says most of its power was given to Death, but that's as good an explanation as any : things don't die on their own. Going Hollow is losing hope and insanity in the face of immortality, and the rest of death is a gift of the First Flame, via Nito.
ToBeARock 3 weeks ago
Primary thing : assuming Gwyn has some master plan is futile, as he is hollow in the Kiln of the First Flame. He gave up all his power to link the fires, and that's why he is called the Lord of Cinder. He's just burnt out. Fairly certain it's his body that becomes the bonfire you link at the end, just like the other bosses. Secondly, it's important to note that it is likely Gwyn who imprisoned his old battle companion, Havel, in the watchtower basement (see watchtower basement key).
ToBeARock 3 weeks ago
keeeep goin pleasee!!!
bmanhsu 3 weeks ago
My guess is that this isn't the first time Petrus had to help pilgrims, being there on holy mission for a long time and finally snapped, entertaining himself by dooming people he already thinks will fail.
SinnerBeta 3 weeks ago
i do not belive that gwyn is a member of way of the white because soliar wishs to follow in his footsteps as a sunlight warrior to find his own sun as gwyn did also in new game+ you can offer gywns soul to the covenant to obtain the sunlight spear miracle wich i would assume thats means gwyn either was a sunlight warrior or created the covenant
gordanfreeman5 3 weeks ago
When does Petris talk to laurtec?
marty13612 3 weeks ago
one of your next videos should be about the darkwraiths
222Pyrolord 3 weeks ago
hmmmm if havel is a bishop, and dont bishops use mericals, then y doesnt havel ude them because havel hates sorceries not mericals
222Pyrolord 3 weeks ago
i killed andrie and i dont know how to upgrade a weapon to plus 10 for boss weapons can anyone help
hellfire9078 3 weeks ago
the witcher 2 or dark souls what should i buy?
leoskoglund 4 weeks ago
@leoskoglund Both of Coarse!
I would go with Dark Souls 1st though
heyfunnykun 3 weeks ago
According to the Item Description of an Estus Flask: Clerics can also use Estus! Undead can mimic it. ->Petrus does not necessarily have to be an undead!
kxosz9 4 weeks ago
Hey Epic, off topic I know and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but have you found any actual or possible usages for the pendant in the game?
dungeonraider22 4 weeks ago
So you speak Japanese? Are you like an American living in Japan or something?
spicandspamful 4 weeks ago
@spicandspamful Yes he is exactly like that,... ^_^
heyfunnykun 3 weeks ago
I enjoy these lore videos very much keeping them coming! I sadly lost my Dark Souls copy and have no speculation to add. My lost copy has depressed me into simply stalking these videos. KEEP THEM COMING!!
DillyDV 4 weeks ago
13:37 minutes long you are the clear winner
mrrfun6 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro
I am interested.
sword42494 4 weeks ago
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sword42494 4 weeks ago
Great video! Really interesting, MOAR PLEASE :)
PlatinumWonderMel 4 weeks ago
@EpicNameBro
I find all of this extremely interesting. The more the better/cover it all/as much as you can/know, approach. There so much, and maybe even more so, so spread out, that it can be very hard to get a good grasp of it all. See all the connections/make all the pieces of the puzzle fall in place. Videos like these are invaluable when it comes to lore like this.Thanks for putting in the time and effort to make them. Much appreciated!
GreyDawgh 4 weeks ago
Including the player.
PipoXXXmax 4 weeks ago
All the existing NPCs in the game are undead (some of them are hollow, others become hollows), but I agree that the fact Petrus uses estus is interesting.
PipoXXXmax 4 weeks ago
Your videos are interesting as hell, please, keep them going!
WebSlingerZX 4 weeks ago in playlist Más vídeos de EpicNameBro
Id love to see, some Warrior of sunlight lore, or gravelords! This video was great man!
MrHakuro93 4 weeks ago
plz make more!!! this is amazing
006969697 4 weeks ago
the length of this video is 13:37, need i say more?
Schobbob 4 weeks ago
Paladin Leeroy is the only guy in Way of White i dont despise, LOLOLZ
DestructiveNoodle 4 weeks ago
the girl whos spirit is in the bed of chaos
vgSp00fy 4 weeks ago
Love the videos man, keep it up :D
Zoloe 4 weeks ago
more plot, i was wrong about soo much that i want more =3
Lifeless9619 4 weeks ago
No idea if this has been posted yet, but how Reah got to dukes can be found in the description for the sens fortress cage key.
"If a hapless adventurer becomes fatigued during an imprudent attempt to overcome the fortress, the serpent men will not kill him, but lock him up in a lonely cage. Eventually, unless they have forgotten, they drag the victim off to who-knows-where."
Remember the lizard men in the Dukes Prison? Yup. So, Rhea tried to go through sens (to anor londo?) and got captured.
SBCurley 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro 25
@SBCurley Wait, arent there Manserpents in the cell area of TDA? Holy connection, batman!
Roflchopter54 3 weeks ago
@SBCurley So what about Logan? He was captured at Sen's and I freed him. Next time I see him he's in TDA in a cell. Did he get captured again at Sen's?
Swash74 3 weeks ago
@Swash74 I think griggs says something about Logan leaving to learn more sorceries or something, so He probably went after Seath and was defeated, and put in a cell, just like you.
SBCurley 3 weeks ago
@SBCurley thanks for saying that, i saw it too :)
runescapeep1c 2 weeks ago
Will you do more of these videos? I'd like to see some more lore, even on Demon souls. I began playing at Dark souls so I always was curious how demon souls ties in.
swe123swe 4 weeks ago 7
@swe123swe Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are actually unrelated. They have some cameos, but that's it. I will be doing at least one or two more lore vids, and I may continue longer depending on how much people are interested.
EpicNameBro 4 weeks ago 13
@EpicNameBro I don't believe that to be honest. Remember the broken archstone in Demon's Souls? Remember how it was the land of giants? Well guess what Lordran has?
Also, I believe Gwyn is the reason the archstone was broken. He started the age of fire and the archstone was destroyed cutting off Lordran from the other archstones.
It kinda makes sense, and the only reason it wasn't named Demon's Souls 2 was because it was multiplatform.
Gaming4Newbs 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro
@EpicNameBro Well if everyone else is like me, I fucking love these videos,and would love to see more in the future, keep up the good work.
MrRatedRRedneck 4 weeks ago in playlist More videos from EpicNameBro
@swe123swe As Epic already said DS doesn't tie into DkS at all... but I just wanted to comment that dude DS is a fantastic game... if you like DkS, then for God's sake go out and get DS! It is just a GREAT game and in some ways is better than DkS... but overall it is not better
scott71785 3 weeks ago
loyds tailisman, gold silver and copper coins
runescapeep1c 4 weeks ago
Actually Oswald says to the player that Petrus "Too is drenched in sin" as in you and petrus are drenched in sin, not that he is not to drenched in sin.
destinyxover 4 weeks ago
favorite video on youtube
RightToImagine 4 weeks ago
What a great video length!
obizenobik 4 weeks ago
Why is the sunlight altar destroyed?
gareth9x 4 weeks ago
@gareth9x the altar statue is Solaire, and I assume it was broken after he lost his God status. Speculation btw
Octibald 4 weeks ago
Oswald might be saying petrus is not too drenched in sin because he is doing the right thing. The clerics are trying to link the fire and petrus may be trying to prevent them from doing that. Therefore Oswald saying petrus isn't drenched in sin could mean that he agrees with what petrus is doing. More evidence that the link the fire ending is actually bad.
gareth9x 4 weeks ago
I think maybe Petrus is there to see that Rhea and her companions don't make it out of the catacombs, or maybe he sees to it on account of distaste for royalty. Perhaps he has a deal with patches before to kill the clerics that enter the catacombs, since patches clearly tries his best to kill you if you say you are a cleric, and even if you don't. It seems to me that petrus, being older, has led many clerics into the catacombs and to the same fate.
Dylanwithaq 4 weeks ago
Thorolund Talisman item description says it's only granted to high-ranking clerics, and yet it Petrus just sells you one. Why is he carrying extra?
Also, guess who else sells you Thorolund Talisman? Patches, who obviously looted it from some Cleric he probably had killed.
It's possible Petrus had a comrade die and he took the talisman with him, nothing suspicious about that, but why does he care so little for it that he just sells it to some undead for pocket change?
drakra 4 weeks ago
Interestingly, Oswald of Carim mentions Petrus, and even says how he is "not too drenched in sin" or something like that. How does Oswald know Petrus and how much he has sinned? Possibly Petrus has requested absolution from Oswald before, to cover up previous crimes? How many undead pilgrimagers has Petrus left to die before?
drakra 4 weeks ago
Sunlight Altar??
parn121 4 weeks ago
keep it up bro. these vids are fantastic.
loogs317 1 month ago
Awesome videos! Make more please
shadowsnake94 1 month ago
what does the pendent do i still don't know
Emanfox333 1 month ago
Moar analysis please Epic, love the lore of this game!
I don't know how you do it, but this channel just keeps getting better, thanks bro.
EmenatorSP 1 month ago
Keep it up Epic! Also, instead of just thinking about thing's that aren't handed out straight to the player, you should collect all the lore readily avalible and summarise it. For example, Lloyd talsmins stuff, all that goodness and how it all connects, before how it immediately translates to the game.
therewillbepain 1 month ago
Anyone want to trade me 6 demon titanite, for whatever You ask for, message me for more info and deals.
Thanks :D
DBCommentaries 1 month ago
what happens if you kill petrus early in the game? does Rhea still die somehow?
wehadagoodlife 1 month ago
@wehadagoodlife Rhea turns hostile as do her protecters, so if they aren't already there, or haven't journeyed into the catacombs yet, they'll fight you and their story won't continue. The time I killed him that kept Rhea alive but not hostile was when she went into the chapel, but before traveling to two other locations, which means Petrus may be considering murder, but you can kill him before he commits it, and Rhea won't mind because Petrus made his intentions clear.
therewillbepain 1 month ago
@therewillbepain So there is a way! I really like her character i felt bad having her die on me so I wanted to keep her alive :P
wehadagoodlife 1 month ago
this plot stuff is awesome man you deffs gotta keep finding this stuff out
MrZanthor 1 month ago
i must know of the PENDANT! its driving me crazy.... although the more i dig into it, i think its just a torturous gift that From Software threw into the game just to drive people like me into an insanely psychotic rage....From Soft is sadistic after all.
ninefingeredjake 1 month ago
@QuanticBlitzStudio I think the Bonfire in Land of the Giants ,the place you're in is to the left of the NPC called Patches,down the ladder.I havent done it myself.
pjomayo 1 month ago
great vid man, very informative, complete speculation ( i could be wrong, if so please tell me) it has to do with the fact that rhea has a pendant. there is some further speculation that the pendant is connected to the furtive pygmy. is it possible that petrus knows this and that is the reason he kills rhea?
MRQ1257 1 month ago
@QuanticBlitzStudio there's definitely a video somewhere showing you how to get to the first bonfire in that area too
RedSphero 1 month ago
@QuanticBlitzStudio You can use the sunlight maggot (from poor Solaire), the lantern (drop from the necromancer dudes in catacombs) or the sorcery 'cast light' to make that place much easier :) Sorry if you knew that and it's still hard... try ranging the crawling enemies? Actually you can probably run past a lot of that level, once you know where you're going
RedSphero 1 month ago
Can't wait for the Chaos Covenant's lore!
A5m0d43u5 1 month ago
@QuanticBlitzStudio The first Catacombes bonfire is past the room with the first ladder down to the piles of bones room when you start the catacombes.Kill the necromancer there and the skeletons shouldnt respawn in that area anymore.Make you you have a Divine weapon in there otherwise skeletons will keep rising from the dead,unless you kill all the necromancers.
pjomayo 1 month ago
I think a video about Lautrec of carim will be good. Much speculation about him, why was he caged in the undead parish? Might he be Gwyns son? He gives out sunlight medals. Why does he want to kill the fire keeper?
gareth9x 1 month ago
@QuanticBlitzStudio Just keep leveling up your weapons and armour and the bosses become so much easier.All you then have to do is learn when to attack ,when to run and when to dodge.
pjomayo 1 month ago
hey epic
you ever considered doing a level 1 playthrough of the game?
i'm doing one myself, even though i have yet to finish the game with my normal level 80 character.
but i have to say that i enjoy the level 1 game a lot more than the normal game, probably due to the fact that i have to watch out more and plan things
anyway, keep up the good work!
Th3Nofo 1 month ago
An interesting thing to note in the White Seance Ring description. It says it belongs to the Head Bishop of the Way of White and apostle TO All Father Lloyd. As in, the ring does not belong to Llyod at all, but to a different person who is apparently Llyod's right-hand man. This person is also evidently the one in charge of the Way of White, not Llyod. That's speculation of course, because there's no documentation stating that the head Bishop is in charge. It could still be Llyod.
HazelrahFirefly 1 month ago
I don't know if it's already been said but I talked to the bishop at the 1st bell tower. And he said Petrus and I were alike and that Petrus is drowned in sin or something like that.
TheOrderOfCake 1 month ago
The pendant can't be properly discussed until it's description gets corrected or confirmed, otherwise it's just another "sun medal".
Voitan 1 month ago
Speculation: Didnt Artherias (the abyss walker) Abandon this covenant when he got corrupted ?? by the Darkwraith ?
iTzRavenHD 1 month ago
The video was cool, but for those of us who haven't played, showing a picture of the character your discussing would help out a lot, thanks again.
Lamel2g 1 month ago 2
I want to hear the lore for the princes of sunlight, and seeth gettin it on :O
Themarinechaos 1 month ago
Dude thank you for a speculative video like this, sorry I'm late on posting but I wanted to suggest this, but you being the genius that you are you beat me to it. Much live from philly keep it up.
bazzokatooth 1 month ago
Great video, man. First video response I've done. I've read all that I can read about Dark Souls lore and I'm curious what you think Seathe is crushing in the intro video. Its obvious that he has betrayed the dragons, but not obvious how he did so. Nothing in Dukes Archives seems to explain this, unless playing some smooth R&B music is the key to a dragons heart.
interpolate1 1 month ago
Completely agree on Petrus, never really liked the guy...
MadSnake123 1 month ago in playlist Más videos de EpicNameBro
And there's the pendant again. What does it do? Is it used for anything? will we ever find out!? Loved the video Epic! Keep the vids coming. God I love the soul franchise!
w10rick 1 month ago
I don't have any speculation to add, I just wanna ask you to please, PLEASE, make more of these lore vids. I've done 5 thorough playthroughs of this game and can't even begin to make sense of most of the stuff going on, and this vid actually helped quite a bit.
KNOWxFEAR 1 month ago
This was great. I got lost sometimes but it was still great! you see I never got Dark Souls but i was seriously considering it and love the lore! Keep em comin.
TheMeta88 1 month ago
ok this is my speculations with a few facts thrown in in the beginning cinematic it says Gwyn the lord of sunlight so imo (and the lightning bolts that you can only get with said covenant) he directly has nothing to do with the way of white but maybe Kingseeker Frampt created the way of white as a way to aid lord Gwyn and release him from his curse so Darkstalker Kaathe made the Darkstalker covenant to go against what Frampt was trying to achieve and keep a DARK lord
DrStr4ng3Lov3 1 month ago
It was werry informative! :))
RoGMcDudes 1 month ago
You should try and put your in-game sources in the video for people who haven't obtained the items, read a lot of the descriptions, etc.
OlympusOdysseus 1 month ago
@OlympusOdysseus I would like to, but it's a matter of time. I'll be changing the format up a bit for the next vid, but it still won't be perfect.
Ideally I want to show every item and dialogue I talk about in the vid, but I decided to just ask people to use the links in the description to save myself the hours of recording, editing, etc., that I would need to do.
EpicNameBro 1 month ago 6
Did anybody notice that this video is 1337?
Seriously look at it's length.
ResidentEvil9125 1 month ago
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DeliriumOnSiren 1 month ago
Also, MOAR.
And that dark tower in undead burg, I noticed that long ago I would love to explore that whole great wall.
zCeras 1 month ago
Keep epic naming, bro.
zCeras 1 month ago
man dark souls is good and all, but if you understand basic japanese, and have a copy of ni no kuni, why arent you playing that instead?
Jackalofdeath 1 month ago
@Jackalofdeath I am playing it, but I can't upload it (copyright)
EpicNameBro 1 month ago
@EpicNameBro that sucks! :(
Jackalofdeath 1 month ago
When I first played Dark Souls, and saw my character looking like a mummy, I thought holy shit, he looks just like the old monk without his clothes. In Dark Souls you start off in an asylum and the level for the old monk for starts off in a prison no? tower of latria? I thought there was some connection. Then I met patches, at the tomb of the giants in dark souls. In Demon souls, there was a broken archstone that was supposed to take you to the land of the giants. unrelated the video though :(
ProphetReaper 1 month ago
I was thinking,what if solaire is actually gwyn searching for his son (the firstborn)?In one of the dialogues(in lost izalith) he says "my dear sun",which would be more logical to be "my dear son".
alucardoom86 1 month ago in playlist Altri video di EpicNameBro
Epic, you are so great! You care so much about your subscribers, and make so high quality videos. Love this story speculation. You erned evry subsrciber, and I hope u get MANY more ;)
GamePodify 1 month ago
Just thinking on what you saris on petrus manet it was all planned out because he is human or not hollow or whatever.he probably didn't want to be apart of any of this so he used patches to dispatch vince and nico, so rhea is alone making her able to kill so he wouldn't have any one kill him.I don't that's just my opinion
challiroc 1 month ago
I would very much enjoy more of these videos. It's more to do with I have the same thoughts as you about these things so I feel less crazy, lol. It's also nice hearing another person input on the foundations of the lore that we know are 100% as well and not just, as you said, "trusting the wiki" as an end of all answers/speculations. (: Good stuff, thank you. <3
Laughingwithtravii 1 month ago