Devon Larratt vs Dave Randall Supermatch 2009

[sototajeri]

one dislike is dave randall

[TheMightykaz]

What a boring audience.

[xzu]

5:12 a pin dropped xD

[kasparov9]

Devon is unbelievably strong...he lets Randall get into his press twice, and rips through it both times, great strength...

[JamesWilliamsDallas]

Lol Randall is such a fucking loser........ Look at him before the second match, Randall wasn't even trying to get a grip, he was dicking around trying to gain an advantage while Devon Larratt was waiting for him. Shame the ref was on Randall's side. And after several minutes of dicking around trying to gain an unfair advantage, Randall still gets pwned.

[masterpatric07]

in the hook devon larrat against an in shape alexey voevoda

in google.then go to ask the champ.

the full interview is there.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 In the interview he states that he would have a good chance against Alexey in a 6 round supermatch, I agree.

[spaced9999]

@kasparov9 I'm not sure what your thoughts are, but i think vovoeda, impressive as he was, is in danger of becoming to armwrestling what fedor emelianenko became to MMA i.e someone whose fanbase has constructed a paper thin reputation of invincibility around him. I mean, even in his peak he only beat Brzenk once. For my money any one of Larratt, Pushkar or todd would beat him in a supermatch now.

[kasparov9]

@spaced9999 I think it really depends on the shape of Alexey if he competed now, it's easy for his fans to brag about him since their argument's cant be disproved as he is not competing now. If he came back fully fit he would be very strong, but this wont be until 2014 due to his contract under bobsleigh. I think Devon would be hard to beat over 6 rounds, at the same time Alexey was almost unbeatable, so it would be a great matchup for sure. Alexey only lost twice in 7 years with the right.

[uscgckatwalker]

@kasparov9 todd and larrat are very similar endurance wise i think, and alexey destroyed todd. I think or at least it looked like todd weighed in much heavier then he normally does. give alexey a year to train and i think he would be able to beat devon. i also think alexey has great endurance too...i guess its just genetics..hes a freak of nature. haha i was at this tournament..

[InTheHookJohn]

@spaced9999 Very good observation of Fedor/Alexy. I totally agree with it. I've said many times, Alexy has nothing to gain from coming back and all his mystique to lose.  I doubt he comes back on the AW scene, if he does I believe Larratt would show him why he should have stayed in the shadows.

[spaced9999]

@InTheHookJohn How do you think Todd will do against Pushkar?

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn Apparently he will be back once his contract for bobsleigh is up in 2014, would be a great match with Devon if it ever happened, Alexey was a monster. Do you know if Devon has any matched coming up this year? Or who he wants to pull? Will the Denis-Devon match ever happen? I heard Cyplenkov wants 20k to pull Devon.

[InTheHookJohn]

@kasparov9 Devon has expressed great interest in the huge cash tournament in Russia this simmer. It's my opinion he'll go and compete there.

As for matches I know he wants to pull Pushkar, Cyplenkov, Osmanli and anyone else who might be competitive.  Neil told me that Denis asked for 20K so I'd believe that is true. If I remember correctly that was even agreed upon and Denis still declined. I cannot imagine why.

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn That is awesome, Devon going to the A1. I'm surprised he's not in Vegas pulling Pushkar, not sure how that came about? Todd-Pushkar will be awesome but that was a real opportunity for the two to clash over 6 rounds. I think it's clear that Denis is afraid of Devon, he's built a nice reputation the last 2 years at Nemiroff and I don't think he wants that tarnished, a shame really, he should be gunning for the No.1 spot not running in the other direction. Thanks for the info.

[InTheHookJohn]

@kasparov9 Devon was/is not available for the Vegas event. I assume that is why M. Todd is fighting Pushkar instead of Devon.

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn Thanks for the info, I agree A1 should be incredible, Larratt, Cyplenkov and Pushkar all there, great. Just had a quick question, what's it like pulling Devon? Does he feel superstrong? Like a wall?

[InTheHookJohn]

@kasparov9 Well yes and no. He's very forgiving on the table and lets everyone work. Now when I use two hands he's more like a wall and can fight at his limit but when we're training he lets us go quite a bit.

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn Ok cool thanks, would be awesome to feel that power.

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn Alexey will be at the A1 too,not competing though, the two might meet for the first time.:)

[InTheHookJohn]

@kasparov9 This has the makings of being the greatest tournament of all time.

[masterpatric07]

the page is inthehook, look for not the recent one but the earlier one or google it till you find it.

[kasparov9]

Is that Tim Bresnan in the back left wearing the ref uniform?

[delboy723]

You can see the pure strength of both these guys in this video. Dave lost both, but it was tough work for Devon to pin the guy. Dave usually wins a lot more than he loses, and wins easy most times too,if other videos are anything to go by. Respect to both of these for this entertaining contest.

[kaigreg]

Well since john is getting old, Devon seems like a nice guy to take over the No.1 position.

[q8shiaprince]

great quality

thanks 4 uploading

[icewipe]

haha..at 1:39 Devons like, "REFS GRIP?!...TIMES UP?!!...30 SECONDS?!!". I found his tone of voice hilarious.

[bscutajar]

@icewipe hahaha xD

[headcaseman]

Arsen can only compete with Devon in speed. Devon has Arsen's number in every other aspect of arm wrestling. If Arsen can't get Devon to the pad with his hit, Devon will destroy him.

[headcaseman]

I don't rate Arsen anywhere near as highly as Devon. Yes, Arsen beat John, but it wasn't a good victory. Arsen had better reaction times and enough power to flash John, but in the rounds where John was quick enough off the mark to catch Arsen's hit, he tore him open and won.

Devon on the other hand crushed John 6-0 with pure power and didn't have to rely on quick starts.

Devon is set to pull Jerry in December. Should be a great match.

[delboy723]

@headcaseman Yes, i've been waiting on some news on this match between Jerry and Devon. did the match even go ahead ?

[headcaseman]

@delboy723 Nah Jerry pulled out a few weeks before. Devon pulled Richard Lupkes instead and won 5-1.

Don't think Jerry's done anything since UAL.

[delboy723]

@headcaseman Thanks for the reply. I'd heard Richard had pulled Devon, still hope Devon and Jerry have a supermatch sometime soon, it should be good. 

[kasparov9]

@delboy723 Yes that would be a good match! :) I still think that Devon would be too strong for Jerry. I think Jerry is a little overrated in the world rankings, but we'll see.

[kasparov9]

@headcaseman Devon won 6-0 against Richard Lupkes at Arm Wars Vegas, then he beat Tim Bresnan 5-1.

[SDSen]

Randalls wrist strength must be insane because he completely nullified Devons toproll, he was left to defend in a defensive hook in both rounds.

[getodachoppa1]

GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!!

[agratias716]

Both are at the top of there game right now I'd like to see Don Underwood and Arsenf Lillev against these two.

[HouZuo]

305 vs 245 ?

[HouZuo]

I don't like Dave. Because he was rule when he won Travis.

[jstyiezp]

devons probably the best for supermatches..as far as tournys go he isnt that great

[armcrusha]

@jstyiezp

Devon just won a tournament with Travis Bagent, John Brzenk, Gary Goodridge, Earl Wilson, Marcio Barbosa, and many others,

I was there and saw it, but i guess that is not a great accomplishment?

[jstyiezp]

@armcrusha no dont get me wrong devons a beast but too be a true champion/legend u have to compete in tourneys and win different tourneys in different weight classes and not only with his right but also with his left like john and travis has done. Devons got a long way too go but he definitely has the potential and power to go all the way

[armcrusha]

@jstyiezp hey man - you should get your facts straight. Devon has been competing since 94 and won almost every tournament he has entered. he has won left and right hand tournaments, he has beaten Travis left handed in a tournament.

Last thing - he has gone all the way-- #1 ranked by WOA by Engin Terzi (slightly more credible than jstyiezp FYI)

[jstyiezp]

@armcrusha i know he competes in tourney in canada..but where is he in big tournaments like nemiroff..and him winning bagent left?..Do u really think bagent takes all his matches serious, the guy goofs around most time, hes only in it if the pay out is good..on serious high stake match bagent will never lose left hand but only 2nd best to denis. I rank devon top 1 because of all his super matchs but I dont rank him number 1 tournament wise. Like I said nothing compare to johns record

[jstyiezp]

@jstyiezp and im a devon fan also I believe hes in awesome shape and is the strongest and smartest armwrestling then most if not all. So relax

[beqvip445]

i wish there for Voevoda , not this old dave

[gsextreme27]

if,IF,,if voevoda return.,ima see how devon will get pwn...

[SDSen]

@gsextreme27 Voevoda if he hadnt retired at all could have stood a huge chance against DEvon but not anymore..because he has quit a lot of time has passed & Devon is in tremendous shape

[shckar]

voevoda are back to armwrestling he say that about one week

[McBoxer6791]

The refs didn't look to happy when Devon won, it was obvious from the early starts and bad grips and elbow fouls that they wanted Dave to win, they even tried to engineer the win for Dave. SAD display very patheic.

[Aggelion]

@McBoxer6791  Agreed, those starts were BRUTAL.

[taurusballer]

Canada is the king of armwrestling! and hockey lol

[BehindTheLight99]

actually, John Brzenk is from the USA. nice try though.

[redskins3724]

Randall most certainly started early both times to get awesome position and even with his 305 pound 6 ft 6 in frame pulling down on Larratt's arm he couldn't pin him........ And the most suprising thing is Devon didn't get pissed at the REF for allowing the early starts......... just goes to show how much confidence Devon has and that he knows he can win even when his opponent gets the unfair edge.

[BullHurleySmasher]

Acebaker, I can see that you are impressed with Larratts physique but you my friend are mistaken in thinking that he would make it in the NFL or UFC. There is not a person in the NFL or UFC that could beat Larratt at armwrestling so it is stupid of you to insult their sports and say he would dominate either of them. Your comments are spoken hastily and show your ignorance!

[BullHurleySmasher]

Randall starts the shoulder at 3:10 before the ready go. He also lifts the elbow off the pad twice at 3:19. Finally He starts early again on the ready and not the go at 6:09! Larratt shows one of the greatest displays of power I have ever seen! I also get pumped every time I watch the celebration at 3:24!

[headcaseman]

Devon is a perfect build build for arm wrestling. Big power forearms with huge hands and wrists.

Someone will beat him eventually though. Dave would have had him here if he just had some stamina.

[laheysaround]

i think devon could take anyone in the world right now, arsen woulldnt stand a chance against this beast.

[ACEBAKER911]

pause at : 39

check out that massive long powerful frame on Larratt

hes got the kind of  Lean Athletic muscular frame that can do anything well,

Basketball, football , Boxing, Wrestling etc.

He has the Ultimate Athletic powerful build

[TheMightykaz]

I agree....Amazing genetics.

[TheRationalTeller]

There is a lot more to boxing than that. Arm power has nothing to do with boxing whatsoever...I know it sounds contradictory, but believe me. I know the science of it.

[ACEBAKER911]

yes you are correct obviously i understand that.

All im saying is LARRATT has one of the most Versatile Athletic builds in all of sports.

Hes lean , tall, agile and Powerful. For instance take DAVE RANDALL, nothing against him but he looks like if he were in a swimming contest hed drown and he obviously has no agility.

LARRATTs build is very versatile and a guy can do ALOT of different activities with a frame like his, hes big, tall, lean, strong and athletic !

[ACEBAKER911]

Boxing is half science and half arm power.

Obviously ALL the skill in the universe will NEVER allow a 140 lb. man at 5'3" to ever beat up Dave Randall or Larratt in a boxing Ring. Its impossible

Skill has Obvious limitations that must be recognized

[TheRationalTeller]

Also, at the heart of armwrestling is strength. Technique can only be applied by strength (ex: hook is to bicep as tricep press is to tricep, etc). Devon Larratt has an excellent body type, but I guarantee that he would fail a powerlifting competition (squat, deadlift, and bench). You can't have everything, and the highly potential body types that are different have given rise to their respective sports. I may not know as much as you even with a 37 MCAT, but I do know enough.

[TheRationalTeller]

Take Gary Goodridge for example: he was one of the world's best at one point, slaming down the 500+ lb Cleve Dean and legend Brzenk. How has he done with Fedor Emelianenko? Do you think that Fedor with his long arms would ever reach Gary's power for armwrestling. NO!!! I think cyplenkov is going to lose with Larratt IN MY OPINION, but Cyplenkov is more of a powerlifter, and Larratt couldn't compete in that arena, and you know it whether or not you admit it.

[ACEBAKER911]

Ron Bath and Devon Larratt have 2 of the most unique and versatile Athletic builds in all of sports.

Take our modern bodybuilder for example. they are so thick they can barely walk. They look utterly Ridiculous .

Just huge thick mounds of muscle meat with no Athleticism or Agility. Conversely, the pro marathon runner is stick thin, Frail with no Muscle power.

Larratt and Bath are like combining Mike Phelps and Mike Tyson in one build !

RARE body type

[TheRationalTeller]

He does have a rare body type, but in a fighting match, Randall would punch a hole through him. I agree with you, but if I could have Devon's power, or power like Rocky Marciano or Joe Louis, I choose the latter two guys. Their power originates within their abdomens to give them the snap. Furthermore, a long arm (as with Joe Louis) is at a big disadvantage in armwrestling but a tremendous advantage in boxing to generate the necessary snap in a punch. You can't have both, simply put.

[TheRationalTeller]

With all respect, to disprove one of your points, boxing is in no way related to arm strength. The forearm (antebrachium) and arm (brachium), are not trained by boxers.  They do not include bicep, hammer, or reverse curls in their training. The added weight on their arms would work against them significantly by reducing the speed of the punch enough to counter the benefit of added momentum according to the simple equation Kinetic E = .5mv^2.

[ACEBAKER911]

I respect your comments and you are very intelligent on this subject so its great to chat with someone that has some depth on this subj.

but with all due respect you misunderstood what i was saying. Im NOT saying that Larratt would be the BEST at every sport, Rather, that he has the ' type' of rare build that he can perform admirably at ALL sports.

For instance Dave Randall cant excell at swimming or basketball, Yet a body like LARRATT definitely can ! get it ?

[ACEBAKER911]

guys with Randall's body type are ONLY built for raw power and thats it. Randalls body type is very limited in what he can athletically excell at.

But we can take a guy like LARRATT at 6' 5" 245, that lean powerful rare muscularity in combo with his agility he could potentially excell at MANY different sports such as boxing, basketball, weightlifting etc.

He has the most VERSATILE BODY TYPE in all of sports. Thats what im saying.

[TheMightykaz]

Randall is OLD dude. He is slow and has arthritis and he worked hard manual labor. To say he could have not been an athlete in a sport is ridiculous. Seems to me he could have been on the O line or D line in the NFL being 6 foot 7 300+. Come on man we have never seen the guy run or any of his agility.

[ACEBAKER911]

we CANT make a competitive swimmer, basketball player or track and field runner out of Dave Randalls body type

ITS IMPOSSIBLE.

however  with Larratts tall, Lean, athletic muscular proportionate symmetrical frame there is UNLIMITED athetic Potential, because he COMBINES great power, with speed, agility and flexibility etc.

things guys like Randalls body type could never accquire or perform.

you get what im sayin ?

[ACEBAKER911]

let me make the distinction, im NOT saying Larratt would be the BEST boxer, basketball player, track and field athlete, wrestler , weight lifter , swimmer etc. in the world.

HOWEVER, what im saying is he has that ULTRA RARE elusive male body type thats incredibly unique and that he could Potentially perform ALL sports extremely well

whereas if he place Dave Randall in a swimming pool hed sink, and basketball hed be a disaster etc.

Larratt = Versatile

[ACEBAKER911]

No offense to Dave, but its easy to see just by watching him walk, that he has very little flexibility or agility or athleticism

sure yea OBVIOUSLY hes a very powerful strong man, that goes without saying, but he sure doesnt look or appear that he could have any possibility of being competitive in ANYTHING  other than those activities that are purely based on Power

Whereas Larratt appears very flexible and agile. Randall walks as if he has Arthriits

[TheRationalTeller]

Well, that is why there are other activities other than those based on pure power: so Devon can compete in them bc he would be left out in those involving pure power. I think that's why other sports have been created (so people like Devon that cannot participate in power activities have something to compete in). You make it seem as if there are few activities that are based on pure power. Both body types are equally rare in terms of potential..but power has more use overall.

[ACEBAKER911]

Once more, you are NOT understanding what im saying. Being 6' 5" and a rock solid muscular 245 lbs. Devon absolutely CAN compete in sports that require pure power !

You can have all the arm technique in the world, you AINT gonna win a Heavyweight arm wrestling pro match if you dont have EXPLOSIVE POWER !

Devon HAS power and ALOT of it ! No matter how much you train a middleweight guy he has NO chance of beating Larratt, ZERO  because of POWER !

[TheRationalTeller]

Once again, your making assumptions when we both know that Devon has not participated in other sports other than armwrestling. Ok..so he's lean and muscular with a good build @245 lbs, but did you see his performance in other sports? No you DIDNT!! That has been my point from the very beginning. And you say Randall walks as if he has arthritis, but you cannot assume he is less agile than Devon.

[ACEBAKER911]

Of course im Obviously making the assumption. But its a very reasoned Logical one .

Its also very reasonable and LOGICAL to conclude no matter how much Training , we can NEVER make a competitive swimmer out of Dave Randall.

its physically IMPOSSIBLE, however  when we speak of Larratt, we are talking about an Entirely different Genetical Athletic Potential based on his Unique Rare Physical build

[TheRationalTeller]

I appreciate the compliments, but I am only establishing my point that you cannot make assumptions that carry a likelihood of being true by examining a person's gross anatomy.

[ACEBAKER911]

yes you absolutely can make logical Fact based Assumptions !

We know for a FACT that there is simply NO possible way for Dave Randall at 6' 6" and 310 lbs. to be a competitive swimmer or Runner.

thats about the most Logical fact based assumption someone can possibly make.

We know Randall has never tried Long distance running, HOWEVER we dont need to , all we have to do is Notice his body and we know for a Fact he could NEVER be competitive at that sport

[ACEBAKER911]

Trust me, i know what im talking about and  you are trying to be Over technical about all this when its all very simple and Obvious.

Larratt has a Rare and Unique Genetic Athletic Potential that most Athletes dont.

which is he is BOTH very Powerful, Lean, Large, Fast , Agile and flexible.

Its completely Logical and intelligent to Assume he would and could compete in alot of other sports that many Other 1 dimensional Athletes like Randall could never dream of.

[ACEBAKER911]

What im stating about Larratt could also be said about RON BATH , although to a lesser degree.

But both Men have incredibly Rare, similar and Unique physical body types that we dont see often in Professional sports

For only 220 lbs. Ron Bath is an incredibly muscular , Strong and quick guy.

What im sayinjg about Larratt, can be said too about Bath

[ACEBAKER911]

you make no sense whatsoever in what you just said

you just insinuated that Heavyweight pro armwrestling requires NO pure power

are you kiddin me ? lol dude, THINK before you speak , you're smarter than that to make such a ridiculous statement.

With all due respect, you sound as if you have literally NO idea of what you are talking about.

OBVIOUSLY Arm Wrestling is Largely a function of muscular Power. HINT...thats why we have weight classes

[ACEBAKER911]

you sound like a nice guy, and believe this is NOT a put down, but i kinda thought from your comments that you had to be Younger .

You're only 21, everything im saying to you might make more sense to you when you get a lil older and have more Life experience.

But at least you are curious, which is a good thing, most Kids you're age are utterly clueless about this stuff

[ACEBAKER911]

Pause this vid at : 39

You dont think thats an Extremely POWERFUL physique ?

The guy looks like he can go through a brick wall ! Hes as wide as a house with very Thick muscularity , Obviously in combo with Lean muscularity.

Larratt would make a devestating Linebacker or Tight end in football , hes got a HUGE muscular POWERFUL Physical body frame, in combo with Lean flexibility and agility

He has the ULTIMATE male body type with Versatility

[ACEBAKER911]

As an Example, If we take the Dexterity and agility of a Michael Phelps and the Raw power and speed of a Mike Tyson , and hypothetically COMBINE them into one hybrid super athletic Male body type that would be the IDEAL combo of what both Men offer in each of their sports

we could get a DEVON LARRATT, tall , Lean ,  agile , athletic yet VERY powerful AND muscular.

we would NOT get a bulky one dimensional athlete like a Dave Randall

[TheRationalTeller]

Whereas Larratt may have a higher quantity and density of type I fast twich muscle fiber in his arms, Randall may have such fibers in other parts of his body (example: abdomen) as he does in his chest (since his bench press is absolutely incredible - in the 600s). If that it is the case (which cannot be determined by observing what may 'seem to be a highly versatile body type,' than your point can also be directed with no less probability of being true of Randall as well.

[ACEBAKER911]

NO im not saying obviously that Larratt would Beat Tyson or that he would swim faster than Phelps.

DONT MISUNDERSTAND

what im saying is he has the TYPE of body that could potentially compete in a huge Variety of sports !

whereas guys like Randall can ONLY  compete in Power activities and nothing else.

Larratt has that ultra Rare combo of Power COMBINED with speed, agility, flexibility , height etc.

he has UNLIMITED potential, whereas Randall not

[ACEBAKER911]

Devon Larratt has the  ULTIMATE body type for Cross Training in all sorts of sports.

he has incredible GENETIC ATHLETIC POTENTIAL

whereas most guys dont , such as a Dave Randall or a pure body builder or power lifter etc.

If i had to walk through this world in the ideal Male athletic Frame and had to choose what body type

no doubt about id choose a guy like LARRATT, he is the ULTIMATE combo of Power, speed, agility, height, flexibility etc.

[TheRationalTeller]

I understand what you saying, -that Larratt can perform very well in almost all sports because of his well rounded body type instead of unipotent as Dave Randall. The point I tried to make or at least insinuate is that it is hard to tell if Larratt can perform very well in other sports. We seem him only as an armwrestler, when in theory, (and not unlikely in reality), Randall may have a higher fitness level on more sports than Larratt!!

[Tjockman]

Eh, come on. Marry the guy already.

[manolosreddragon]

david just gave up, he gave devon a run for his money

[dancalvin1983]

jezzz deven really hates that ref,he was giving him attitude allt he way throw it

[Conquistadorr]

... and I'd be interested to seeing a Devon at the Nemiroff World Cup 2009 !!!

[InTheHookJohn]

Plentyofsalmonella

I do not understand what you wrote but I don't think it's too nice. I'd be interested in a translation

[gman22guns]

I'd be interested in seeing a Devon vs Arsen supermatch, but maybe even more interested in a Dave vs Arsen one. It would be nice to see the man with possibly the strongest, most explosive toproll on the planet against someone who is almost impossible to toproll.

[TheMightykaz]

Which guy is impossible to toproll?

[VeerGill]

I read somewhere that a person by the name of Big Cole (if i got the name right) defeated Devon somewhere anybody know about it & if its true or not!

[gman22guns]

It's possible - Devon has only been at this level for a couple years. Previously, high level pullers could beat him. I believe it was 2006 that Taras Ivakin (who seems to be between Tim Bresnan and Ron Bath in power) beat Devon in a supermatch. No disrespect to Taras, but I suspect a rematch would be no match.

[VeerGill]

Devon has looked a bit vulnerable to the toproll previously - I agree a match with Arsen would be ideal it's what everybody wants to see - What are your predictions on Arsen's upcoming match with Brzenk

[gman22guns]

John has been looking good lately, winning ROTN over Ron Bath, who recently went 3-0 in his supermatch with Rich Lupkes. It's generally not safe to vote against John. However, John too has been vulnerable to great toprollers. In fact, he didn't even have a winning record against Tim Bresnan until about a year ago. I want John to win - and perhaps he may - but I see as an even stronger possibility that Arsen might just blast through him with that incredible toproll.

[SDSen]

That's true the match with Brzenk could go either way! I thought Arsen would have his chances with Devon but now I dont know because Engin stated that Arsen is not confident to go up against Devon and that he would be too much for him - I thought perhaps he was trying to be humble but then again when asked about Bagent he didnt say how the match would go but did say he was confident but with Devon he is saying the opposite

[hazchem81]

*Randall has no chance against Devon* - I sincerely hope you were just joking there, Randall is one of the very few who have a chance of defeating Devon he has all the physical tools needed & you saw that in this match. I don't recall anybody giving Devon such trouble in recent times his defensive hook was seriously put to the test and he did amazingly well to stop Randall. Devon won't be forgetting Randall and this match for a while yet. Arsen & Dave the ONLY 2 who have a chance currently.

[trixterx]

Dave Randall has no chance against Devon,at the second and third match Dave used triceps alot and when he turned back in initial position Devon smashed him.The only one in the world who attends at Devons' crown is Liliev,Dave and John gets old day by day..

[SDSen]

I agree Liliev is gonna pose a big threat - I think a healthy Brzenk will pose a threat too maybe

[InTheHookJohn]

Devon already faced a healthy Brzenk

[vij009]

Not taking anything away from Devon but that John had a wrist problem he did that match just fulfil his contractual obligations i think...a fit Brznk like the one who defeated Cyplenkov at the Vendetta would be good for Larratt not saying Larratt wont win but you may never know

[hazchem81]

Not too sure about that Vij009 since John fought Denis not too long after his match with Devon and thrashed him.

Styles make fights & I know for sure Arsen will trouble Larratt and big threat- I cannot say the same for John - John's wrist wasn't weak in that match it seemed that way because Larratt exploited it at will. John was exposed then - When they rematch John may have improved himself but I honestly just do not see him winning unless if he gets Devon in a solid hook maybe? It's guesswork

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn Devon mentions in 'inthehook' that John had wrist problems that day, check out the section referring to a rematch with John.

[InTheHookJohn]

I think Dave Randall does have a chance against Devon. He has a better chance than almost anyone in my opinion. Not over 6 rounds however, but 2 out of 3.

Dave's power is incredible and his move is solid.

[RISTPOWER]

@trixterx COME ON DUDE DAVE RANDALL IS A OLD MAN DEVON NEEDS TO GO WITH THE YOUNG GUYS DENIS CYPLENKOV OR ARSEN LILIEV NO BODY CANT STOP ARSEN SPEED!!! EVEN DON UNDERWOOD BEAT DEVON!!! ARSEN WOULD SMASH DEVON!!! AT +95K!!!

[masterpatric07]

@trixterx LARRAT HAS NO CHANCE AGAINST CYPLENKOV, AND EVEN LESS CHANCES AGAINST VOEVODA.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Well Denis barely beat Richard Lupkes at ACAC, Devon killed Richard 6-0 at Arm Wars last year. And Voevoda has been inactive for a while, Devon would be favorite against both guys in 6 rounds format.

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 no,you have no idea.barely does not count,lupkes has no stamina at all.and VOEVODA WITH 6 OR 3 MONTHS OF TRAINING AND PROPER SURGERY can beat them all.he beat easily cyplenkov while they were training for cyplenkov nemiroff in 2009.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Of course I have an idea. Denis has become much stronger since 2009, especially with the right. All of what your saying is just guess work and speculation. In a 6 round supermatch Devon would beat Denis, all the experts agree that Voevoda would lose to Devon in a 6 round supermatch, such as Neil Pickup and Engin Terzi, but we will see when he comes back.:)

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 even in the interviews LARRAT says he thinks he has no chance against VOEVODA.LOOK FOR THE INTERVIEWS ONLINE, I AM TELLING YOU NO LIES.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Sorry but that's wrong, if you go to inthehookcom, and check out the interview about his chances against Voevoda, he say's that he would have a very good chance over 6 rounds, you can go and have a look. Voeovda might be coming back soon so we will see.:))

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Even John Brzenk mentioned that if Voevoda vs Larratt, if Alexey didn't beat him in a second or two then Larratt would win. I have that interview and have posted it here somewhere. He said that Voevoda may have enough strength to beat Larratt but wasn't sure.

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 I am talking about larrat not brzneck,the same larrat knows ,he can not beat him.brzneck did not say that, cause he knows larrat struGgles against anyone,while voevoda destroyed all of the top tens in seconds likeMICHAEL TODD,BAGENT, PUSHKAR AND BRZNECK INCLUDED.LARRAT SAID HE CAN NOT BEAT VOEVODA.READ the interviewto larrat.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 "cause he knows larrat struGgles against anyone".......Larratt struggles against who? I don't get your argument, why would Larratt think that he can not beat him? If Engin Terzi and Beil Pickup think he can, then why wouldn't you or Larratt think it? It makes no sense. He's No.1 in the world, of course he thinks he can beat Voevoda. Please be realistic, you can't just be all for Voevoda and totally ignore Larratt who is the best at the moment.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Trust me, Voevoda has never gone against someone like Larratt, so it would not be so easy. Anyway, you might get a chance to see them wrestle soon!

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Please show me the interview about Larratt and Voevoda.

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 you are a lay motherfucker, look for it on the internet.i will find it for you and i want your appologies after that.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 I'm not going to apologize to someone that abuses other people. Learn to have a little respect, don't live life like that. As for that interview, yes I have seen that. I thought that Devon was joking when he said that he thought Alexey would smash his hand through the pad, he was paying him respect, after that if you listen closely he said that he would have a pretty good chance over 6 rounds. It's in the same interview.

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 give me an email where i can send you the link.

[masterpatric07]

@masterpatric07 haha,he knows he can not beat VPEVODA,END OF STORY,AND I DO NOT NEED YOUR APPOLOGIES , I KNOW HOW MEDIOCRE YOU ARE,I SHOW YOU THE FACTS, AND YOU KEEP IN DENIAL MODE.LARRAT STRUGLES AGAINST ALL THE PULLER BARBOZA , ANY ONE, VOEVODA NEVER STRUGGLES.

[kasparov9]

@masterpatric07 Dude, you realize you replied to yourself here?:)

[cbpcbp345]

@masterpatric07 Larratt no longer struggles against anyone like a Barboza. Larratt may have struggled, but still won. IF you watch Larratts interviews and evolution, you see how he addressed what used to be his weaknesses. Larratt is not as powerful as Voevoda, but he is just as strong. Why you still mentioning Voevoda? It disrespects all the current amazing pullers. Voevoda peaked in 2004 because of genetics and steriods. Larratt is natural, so he evolves slower. Larratt at 40 will be awesome.

[kasparov9]

@cbpcbp345 I agree, Larratt will be superstrong 42-44...

[spaced9999]

@masterpatric07 vovoeda is retired. If he makes a comeback i'm afraid you'll sound like all the fedor emelianenko fans in MMA who thought their man could never be beat. Vovoeda gets better the longer he is away. Face it, armwrestling has moved on.

[masterpatric07]

@kasparov9 in the hook devon larrat against an in shape alexey voevoda

google those words in the search engine.then go to ask the champ

full interview for you.

bow down and kneel/.

[SDSen]

John didnt make any excuses though - He said himself he was fit for the match plus when asked about Devon he said that 'he is on another level'

[InTheHookJohn]

I know, John didn't make excuses. Many of his fans did though, and continue to. It takes away from Devon's accomplishment and fails to give him credit for doing such an amazing thing.

[armrip]

Is the rematch still going to happen in January?? To me, this rematch is going to be the biggest thing that has happened in armwrestling in years. Will the baton be passed on to the new "Best In The World" or will John come in at the best he has ever been and amaze everyone again like he has done many times before?? Does John still have the motivation and desire to train and continue to be the best in the sport or is he about ready to "step down"? This rematch deserves a big payday to the winner

[thefanaticx]

@InTheHookJohn I watched the vendetta and Brzenk DID NOT looked healthy at all.. Brzenk didn't make any excuses cause he didn't want to lose face when he faced(then lost) to Devon at their vendetta.. Brzenk was just too humble.. a real hero, legend and champion.. that's why his fans love him, and he will remain the greatest no matter what

[kasparov9]

@InTheHookJohn But Devon himself said that he though he caught John on 'not his best day', so if Devon is actually saying it then there must be somet truth to John not being in the best shape that day.

[InTheHookJohn]

Marco, John will smash Devon???

Only weeks after John fought Devon he took out Cyplenkov. How do you explain that? Perhaps he wasn't so far out of shape for Devon?????? Perhaps too many people make too many excuses

[SDSen]

Randall could have won if he had a bit more shrewdness and endurance but despite that he gave Devon possibly his toughest match so far and drained him , which you don't see often

[marcobrambillasca]

A healthy and trained john can smash him.

My bet's on John

[SDSen]

John doesnt have a hope in hell to be beat him now! Randall and Liliev have the potential to beat Larratt.

[armrip]

Devon is STRONG!! John is going to have to be at his very best to beat him.

[mrtvman]

cool