Boss Wagon VI: 2008 Mazdaspeed 5 - Car and Driver

[JohnFHendry]

So what was it like finished? There should be a turbo 2.5 option for the Mazda5 that is better tuned for normal deriving that gets better millage while still out performing a Honda Odyssey. That should be the goal. But with today's tech a variable mileage/performance system should be in place controlling our mileage not production design politics connected to oil production. Less that 30 mpg for a Mazda 3 or 5 (136 pound difference, that's all) with a 3.2 Co/drag is a joke in 2012. Finish MS 5!

[bigvirgotube]

Just bump the hp/torque for the standard Mazda 5 to 185, and most folks will be happy. Trust this...

[StarclassicD]

That hatchback is NOT a mazdaspeed 3...its a regular hatchback ...

[its2realj]

you should have stuck this engine in the miata! that would be sick!

[d357r0y]

If Mazda would build a MS5 wagon, I'd buy it.

[ManuelFerara]

I actually like the idee of a MPV being fast...I think it can be done and it is a nice concept...If you own a MPV you should also be able to enjoy cars as much as a hatchback owner...

[carrionpvp]

im guessing this was for some serious lulz?

[507karry]

gosh im pissed..i wish they did make a mavda speed 5

[whatitdodew]

I remember reading this in some car magazine! if you ask me I like what they did!

[ItalianSA]

pleeaassseeeee don't ruin the MAZDASPEED name... Mazda didn't create a Mazdaspeed van, so why did you? Mazdaspeed and "5" should never go together..

[mrZdude]

@ItalianSA this thing is more badass than you.

[jipandesal]

at 0:51 that is actually a ms3 but they swapped all of the things out to make the m5 a mazdaspeed5

[Cordius]

@jipandesal The tail lights are completely different, what the hell are you on?

[rockcityfilms3]

Good demonstration of how difficult things get when you try to modify a modern vehicle. The engine was a perfect fit, but the computer and harness made the job a nightmare. If Car and Driver had this much trouble with a fairly "simple" swap, what chance is there for the rest of us?

[dh39zj]

0:51 uhm that's not a MS3. Its a basic hatch with 16"s. i have an '07 MS3 and that's definately not one.

[randomly1981]

That is a MS3 they just swap the wheels from the Mazda 5

[Saskatchewan17]

It was a special Mazda test vehicle I believe... so it wasn't equipped with the go fast goodies like the 18 inch wheels and larger spoiler. It was damaged in transit from a mazda test facility when it was atop a car carrier... so this was basically a pre-production vehicle.

[zoomdoom1]

@dh39zj

pretty sure those are the mazda 5 wheels they swaped over and the ms3 had those rays you see on the "mazdaspeed5"

[mtxandy]

They just swapped the wheels with the Mazda 5. You can tell its a MS3 by the spoiler and its obviously a turbo because of the intercooler. I cant believe you owned one and cant tell the diff. I have an 09 MS3 btw

[rollajoc96]

this is badass, they should have taken everything out of a mazdaspeed 6 and made it awd :)

[johnnyr25]

Mazda? You listening?

[EA11RDrift]

Mazda need to produce this. I'd totally buy an MS5.

Those kids would never, ever make it to soccer practice in one piece, though.

[supralex20]

It's not by Mazdaspeed. Don't do tht.

[allteeth]

Nope, thought I would be... but, nope.

Not interested. I would have just rocked the MS3.

Good work, none the less. Looks like alot of time and headaches.

[vernong1992]

Now that's a van I'd actually want haha :D

[caraddict520]

uhm. vw sportswagen anyone? this really isnt a wagon.

[georgelovecar]

why not just add a turbo into the 5'sstock engine but no need to cut a new engine from another car wouidn't it be smmmmmoother

[awol09]

the real question is why you would want to make a mazda 5 into a "mazdaspeed" 5..........

i can think of much better hybrid cars than that haha

[offroader156]

i can't think of an hybrid under 50 grand that's as quick as that....

[dilawer321]

@awol09 the same reason why people put a k20 engine in a honda fit/jazz, or the same reason people put a skyline rb26 engine in a 200sx, simply beacause no one else has aone and you will have the fastest one out there.

[firesquare16]

make a few more and i think it will sell.

[FuriousPumpkin]

if they had an unlimited budget they could put the Mercedes 6.5 liter twin turbo V-12 into an E-class.

[seroyer2]

Brabus already does that.

[1g2002541]

wonder if u put in a LSD, otherwise it how u solvo the torque steering

[Yoda8232]

This is no wagon, it's a minivan.

Take away the stupid sliding doors first step.

[cjhenks]

I wonder how many hours went into the conversion. Do they sell the speed 3 engine alone? Would I be able to swap it into my 2000 626?

[carcrrrazy214]

I'm not sure how many hours went into the conversion, but I bet it's a lot. They got the engine from a speed3 that was totaled, but the engine was fine.

[turbo311]

I remember reading what a pain in the ass this thing was

[flyboy333]

What a pimpin wagon! I love sleeper cars, and that is one heck of a sleeper.

[tonydano]

the problem with these cars is that you also have to change the key. You have to use the key from the 3. That key "talks" to the BCM under the dash which in turn "talks" to the ECM. Obviously the harness have to swapped as well. without doing this, the engine will never run right. It might even loose oil pressure and go into limp mode every 10 minutes. Then you'll have to modify every fusible link connection to the BCM (power windows, locks etc.) very interesting project guys!

[mazdaspeedcj]

They can probably get away with just buying an Accessport and using that to tune the engine. The FMIC is probably throwing off the stock ECU.

[lilunits]

epic

[AcerOner]

Nothing better than a wasting an awesome engine, in a minivan ;) LOL

[4stringshayden]

It's top mount...

[jimcars]

You don't need a reason to put together something like this. You just dream it up and then go at it. Its soo much better when you can do it on someone elses dime though. Its a great car the projecto had to be a blast.

[SaintlyMerc]

Mazda needs to put this into production.

[whatthehallbetch]

i read about that. kick ass guys

[supremewhip]

Get that shit tuned. It's bogging at high RPMs like you guys said. It shouldn't be running anything slower than mid 6's from 0-60.

[quietviewer]

A lot of time on your hands? Pretty funny. There are uglier things out there, like the caliber srt4...

[SpartanGuy]

What the crap? Its a Frankenstein.

[SpartanGuy]

What the crap?

[kaidotech]

This is awesome. I love fast slammed vans

[TechWithLukasz]

WTF, whats the point of doing this?

[Xyrophobia]

...What in the hell??