@cjs342011 hes good because hes a great mental agitator, look at all his haters. People that don't even play up against him hate him. He drew us penalties, and got in the minds of the opposing team. Its not all about scoring goals and dangles, hockey is more mental. Any experienced coach will say that. Avery just had personal problems with Tort's, thats why hes gone
@lilgretzkypro187 I agree with you though I also think he's gone because of the contract he had....he'll be back somewhere for a lot less money I'm sure.
goaltender interferance my fucking ass! this gotta be rigged. We see tomas holmstrom the the same thing and they call those ones a goal. I dont see a problem with this one.
Kiprusoff couldve made the save, instead he decides to slash Pronger. Pronger never touched him, all he did was wave his hand. In my opinion, the goal shouldve been good.
He explained in the post game interview that he was motioning for the puck to be played into the corner. He did earlier with his stick but Richards didn't see so he was making it more obvious. Whether it was intentional or not it had to have been called immediately, not 5 seconds later after the Flyers scored. Also where's the retaliation call on Kipper?
The sean avery rule is being turned around FACING the goalie. Pronger wasnt facing the goalie! he didnt even get in the way when the shot was taken! 5 secs after he had his hand up the puck went in!
Even tho it's cheap to do that it's hockey ur allowed to screen the goalie wit ur body so y not ur hand or stick as long as u dnt touch the goalie, the goalie just has to play through it
@xkingwoodx That's like saying it's cheap to screen the goalie period. You can do whatever you want to screen as long as you're not facing the goalie.
@jessdemignon Cost the Flyers 1st place in the Eastern Conference too because of this bullshit call (VERY LATE), wouldn't have been called if we didn't score.
the only reason avery got called is because he waived his hand and for much longer this is horse shit but what are you going to do they all hat Pronger?
Well it isn't working because the Rangers haven't done jack shit since 1996. The Kings didn't do shit when he was there. In addition to that, he didn't even last a year with Dallas.
Matthew Barnaby, Steve Ott, Ted Linseman, Ulf Samuelsson, Darcy Tucker. Those are REAL agitators. Avery is just a moron on skates.
at least avery was original and DIDN'T try to stomp on people with his skates. pronger is dick like all of the other Anaheim sucks players. except visnovsky
@Germy20111 Have you watched hockey for longer than 5 minutes? He is a top tier defenseman. He is Hart Trophy winner, Norris Trophy, Stanley Cup champion and soon-to-be captain of the Flyers. I hate the Flyers, and the Ducks for that matter, but there is no denying that he is one of the elite defenseman in the NHL.
@DaKoolA1dMan Dunno what you've been readin' or smoking. But Avery does pretty damn good these days. He scores and creates loads of power plays. Which is his role.... you bumnugget!
Are you absolutely sure about that? There's no doubt that Pronger can play, but have you actually ever watched Avery play, or are you just as ignorant about it as most?
They recently said that "it doesn't matter if he's not facing the goalie." bullshit! They're going to say anything to stick of for their refs. I bet they make up new rules to make them look better when they screw up.
The Sean Avery rule was there because Avery was being an asshole so they wanted to stop that. The penalty on pronger was taken wayyy to far.
Sean Avery is a disgrace to hockey with no hockey skills... hate pronger all you want... but hes a great hockey player. If this was a penalty, play shoulda been dead. The ref should not have waited after the goal or when he saw kippurs reaction. plain and simple: it was one of the worst officiating calls in a VERY long time
imian786, read the rule book before you try and sound like an official, it clearly states that you have to be BOTH facing the goaltender AND distracting. All of you people saying it was the right call are just biased idiots. if this happened to your team i wouldnt see you on here posting that it was a fair call.... anyone that has played hockey or watches hockey would know that pronger was simply screening the goaltender. And he was too busy slashing pronger thats why he was distracted
"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."
i would be pissed if I was a Flyer fan, but it's the right call.
In order to keep the game from becoming some distraught offspring of Bettman-Campbell inconsistent policies, we have to make the right calls at the right times, this is 100% bang on.
Wanna know something funny about this call besides the obivous that this is not the sean avery rule cause you need to be FACING the goalie??
this rule is not in the NHL rule book... aka the ref called absolutely nothing... its like calling a two line pass... thats not the rules and the Flyers 100% won the game meanwhile the refs 100% were wrong
That's a good call. Ppl that are saying that it wasn't a good are dumb cuz the clearly don't understand that the new rule states that you cannot be distracting the goalie by waving ur arms etc AND U DONT HAVE TO BE FACING THE GOALIE. Great call
The mistake was not calling it right away. The game was poorly officiated to begin with, but I think what the ref was hoping was that nothing would come of the hand-blinding. When the puck went in, he'd already blown the call and whistled it late. It's a penalty in keeping with the spirit of the unsportsmanlike conduct rule, but not calling it right away was the problem.
I hate to say it because I hate Pronger just as much as the next guy, but that ref should lose his job for doing that. The infraction happened while Richards had the puck. If that was indeed a penalty, the play should've been blown dead right then and there. Instead, the ref waited until a goal was scored and THEN decided to wave it off AND call a penalty. It would be one thing if he just waved off the goal but to award a powerplay shows exactly how badly blown that call was.
Everyone knows that if this call was against their team, they would be so pissed and thought they were robbed. The people that say it was a good call are people who hate Pronger (which many people do) and hate the flyers (which many people do). lolol. But that doesn't make it a good call. Could you imagine if this happened in the Stanley Cup. It would have been a fraud. These people have to stop being biased against certain teams and players and admit that the refs fucked up.
1) YOu can clearly see he takes a look back to see where Kipper's face is and then puts his hand there. He is not looking at Richards he's looking back at Kipper.
2) When Richards scores, PRONGER LOOKS RIGHT AT THE REF WITH A GUILTY FACE. WHY? BECAUSE HE BROKE THE RULES !!!
@zkunit If you compare this to what Avery did, it is redic to say they are even near the same thing. The Flames should have had someone battling harder in front of the net. Plus Kippur clearly slashed him in the back of the legs. If anything the play should have been blown dead and the "minors" should have been offset. To take away the goal afterwards and then give a penalty is redic. When the shot came his hands were on the stick not in front of his face.
his hand wasnt even out long enough pronger put his hand down beforew the shot even happened
BananuhzHD 3 days ago
but the rule is you cant face the goalie and do that., they never said you cant put your hand out.
rawleblood1 2 weeks ago
Pronger gets a penelty but Avery gets away with it, that is messed up.
thrillmaster76 3 weeks ago
@thrillmaster76 There was no rule against what Avery did when that happened.
MrTrufflePigs 3 weeks ago
@thrillmaster76 because it wasn't against the rules Avery did it..they call it "the Avery rule" for a reason
greenchef6 3 weeks ago
@thrillmaster76 That's because Avery is such an intrepid pioneer in the land of douchebaggery.
BRexxors 1 week ago 2
No contact at all to the goalie. NOT A GOOD CALL AT ALL ! atleast we still won this game
GoodThingsTV 3 weeks ago
i remember this game, that was a bullshit call
MrSouthphillyitalian 1 month ago
@MrSouthphillyitalian hows was that a bullshit call?
GulfCoastFlames28 1 month ago
@GulfCoastFlames28 are you blind
MrSouthphillyitalian 1 month ago
@MrSouthphillyitalian that's a penalty you cant clock the goaltenders view with your hands or stick..its an unsportsmanlike
GulfCoastFlames28 1 month ago
@GulfCoastFlames28 indeed! good call from ref!
gilowadept 1 month ago
@gilowadept It was a great call by the ref
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@GulfCoastFlames28 he was'nt blocking his view when the puck was shot
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GulfCoastFlames28 1 month ago
Seeing Avery live at kings games up to 2006 was GREAT put on a show...
zKiLLzHDz 2 months ago
what did pronged even do to be compared to avery?
bigpopi1798 2 months ago
wow bad call
sourcherries73 2 months ago
awee i saw pulls a sean avery.. i thought i was gonna watch him beat the shit outta his girlfriend and then get fired...
TylerMinority 2 months ago
I don't know who i hate more, Pronger or Avery.
BLOCK19PRODUCTIONS 2 months ago
what a retarded call by those refs
Scuubs27 2 months ago
@Scuubs27 yeah u went to that game it was bullshit
40DanConnor 2 months ago
Averys better
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 no not even close
jakeg76 2 months ago
@jakeg76 avery's the man..everyone hates him because he's not on their team
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 hes not good. yeah he pisses me off but he has nowhere near the skill that Crosby or Ovechkin do
jakeg76 2 months ago
@jakeg76 um you cant compare crosby or ovechkin with avery lmfaooooo. they are way better..wow that was a very stupid point lol
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 but you were saying that avery is the best so i compared him with the best
jakeg76 2 months ago
@jakeg76 no where have i said he was the best lol
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 i saw a comment by you on another video
jakeg76 2 months ago
@jakeg76 well i was probably trolling..either way you can't compare them..Avery is the best agitator in the league
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 ok you might be right about the agitator thing.
jakeg76 1 month ago
@lilgretzkypro187 he's so good he's been sent to the minors again...
cjs342011 2 months ago
@cjs342011 because tortarella hates him and the rangers don't need him, thats why.
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 or because he's terrible. how is he good?
cjs342011 2 months ago
@cjs342011 hes good because hes a great mental agitator, look at all his haters. People that don't even play up against him hate him. He drew us penalties, and got in the minds of the opposing team. Its not all about scoring goals and dangles, hockey is more mental. Any experienced coach will say that. Avery just had personal problems with Tort's, thats why hes gone
lilgretzkypro187 2 months ago
@lilgretzkypro187 I agree with you though I also think he's gone because of the contract he had....he'll be back somewhere for a lot less money I'm sure.
albnorhyno 1 month ago
goaltender interferance my fucking ass! this gotta be rigged. We see tomas holmstrom the the same thing and they call those ones a goal. I dont see a problem with this one.
okpapereat 3 months ago
I wonder what Richard's argument was to the refs. I would've been too busy being pissed off at Pronger.
Shoosta92 3 months ago
i was at this game he was motioning to his teammates and it went in cause kipper put himself out of position with the slash..shoulda counted
bergaflickal 3 months ago
Flames defense should grow a sack and move him.
burns268 3 months ago
he was fucking pointing to where he wanted richards to go with the puck
bouttogotowork 3 months ago
Great work partner, well pointed out
ticaaaaaaaaaal 3 months ago
No fukin joke
crazycar324 3 months ago
I was thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!
crazycar324 3 months ago
This Avery doing better :)
16AverySean 3 months ago
Kiprusoff couldve made the save, instead he decides to slash Pronger. Pronger never touched him, all he did was wave his hand. In my opinion, the goal shouldve been good.
Hom3TownH3ro 4 months ago
Tomas Holmstrom is one of the best for standing in front of the net... And yah why didn't sean avery get a penalty for taunting broduer?
TheDetroitredwings25 4 months ago
@TheDetroitredwings25 The rule wasn't put in place until after that game where Avery was facing Brodeur during a power play in the playoffs.
davidc427 4 months ago
hahaha.. Pronger.. so stupid, ..no one likes Pronger, not even Chris himself.
alex82nemo 4 months ago
@alex82nemo I like Pronger. Good player.
OwnednPwned 4 months ago
@OwnednPwned you're funny =)
alex82nemo 4 months ago
Lmao, that was funny. But Holmstrom screens right. Still as effective though.
JefferstChmilst 4 months ago
avery is the man!
jethrobodine011 5 months ago
Man I think I'd rather have Richards as captain than Pronger. Poor Philly.
redhead16 5 months ago
if you are not allowed to get in the goalies head it isn't hockey. besides i'm a goalie I love when players try to fuck with me lol
Karpet360 5 months ago
He explained in the post game interview that he was motioning for the puck to be played into the corner. He did earlier with his stick but Richards didn't see so he was making it more obvious. Whether it was intentional or not it had to have been called immediately, not 5 seconds later after the Flyers scored. Also where's the retaliation call on Kipper?
sshockey55 6 months ago
Bullshit call.
thomas0504 7 months ago
The sean avery rule is being turned around FACING the goalie. Pronger wasnt facing the goalie! he didnt even get in the way when the shot was taken! 5 secs after he had his hand up the puck went in!
xPerfectionlst 7 months ago
WAY TO GO KIPRUSOFF got a good slash in and it wasn't a goal!
and for you chris pronger fans................GO DIE.
goaliemayne33 8 months ago
Still pissed about this game, cost the Flyers first place. Refs are ALWAYS out to get the Flyers..
77HeIix 10 months ago
@77HeIix that was last year flyers got 8th last year? are you saying 1 game cast the flyers 7 spots difference? what are you smoking?
Alcan196 10 months ago
@77HeIinvm thought that said march
Alcan196 10 months ago
Even tho it's cheap to do that it's hockey ur allowed to screen the goalie wit ur body so y not ur hand or stick as long as u dnt touch the goalie, the goalie just has to play through it
chokingonthis 10 months ago
Bah..... I think it's kinda cheap to put ur hand in front of the goalie face though
xkingwoodx 11 months ago
@xkingwoodx That's like saying it's cheap to screen the goalie period. You can do whatever you want to screen as long as you're not facing the goalie.
DJisDJisDJ 9 months ago
Who won this game??
jessdemignon 11 months ago
@jessdemignon Flames won 3-2
mokyboy11 11 months ago 34
@mokyboy11 good job flames
GaKomentLang 9 months ago
@jessdemignon Cost the Flyers 1st place in the Eastern Conference too because of this bullshit call (VERY LATE), wouldn't have been called if we didn't score.
More proof everybody is against the Flyers...
77HeIix 6 months ago
Terrible call. Avery rule states that a player must face the goalie for it to be called.
psychocloud 11 months ago
THAT WASENT SEAN AVERY RULE BECAUSE SEAN AVERY WENT CRAZY
AND PRONGER JUST PUT HIS HAND IN FRONT THATS OT THE FUCKING SEAN AVERY RULE FUCK HIM
Mythbuster40 1 year ago
misleading title, I call bullshit
stupiddoodoodumb315 1 year ago
lmao he wasn't looking at the net.
kidkong584 1 year ago
terrible call, ref never put his hand up indicating a penalty until the puck was in the net. total bs
dannyo87 1 year ago
the only reason avery got called is because he waived his hand and for much longer this is horse shit but what are you going to do they all hat Pronger?
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that is the most bullshit call i have ever seen, if anybody should b getting a penalty its Kippur for slashing, thats called screening the goalie
butfuck446 1 year ago
that is the most bullshit call i have ever seen, if anybody should b getting a penalty its Kippur for slashing, thats called screening the goalie
butfuck446 1 year ago
that is the most bullshit call i have ever seen, if anybody should b getting a penalty its Kippur for slashing, thats called screening the goalie
butfuck446 1 year ago
Pronger even said after the game he wasn't putting his glove in the goalie's face, he was just indicating for Richards to throw it around the boards
Bunnsofsteel 1 year ago
i fucking hate sean avery hes such a fucking fag but pronger is beast
Kacey2030 1 year ago
miikka and pronger ftw :p
SmileFIN 1 year ago
fuck the flyers, and fuck pronger more, but fuck sean avery even more
Edawg649 1 year ago
@Edawg649 I know dude. It's whatever the lesser of three evils is.
TheWitchOvAgnesi 1 year ago
At least Pronger is good at hockey. Avery sucks and is an asshole.
DaKoolA1dMan 1 year ago 72
@DaKoolA1dMan So True
Edawg649 1 year ago
@DaKoolA1dMan yeah but atleast avery can do his rule well pronger failed like crazy cuase averys goal counted and this goal didnt.
dadeeman1oo 1 year ago
@DaKoolA1dMan Do you know what Avery gets paid for? to get the other team off there game and helps the team a lot if you actually knew something.
Tsheaaa14 9 months ago
@Tsheaaa14
Well it isn't working because the Rangers haven't done jack shit since 1996. The Kings didn't do shit when he was there. In addition to that, he didn't even last a year with Dallas.
Matthew Barnaby, Steve Ott, Ted Linseman, Ulf Samuelsson, Darcy Tucker. Those are REAL agitators. Avery is just a moron on skates.
DaKoolA1dMan 9 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan Darcy Tucker has been on the Leafs. LOL.Worst than the Rangers.
Tsheaaa14 9 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan 94 not 96 lol
77HeIix 6 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan
at least avery was original and DIDN'T try to stomp on people with his skates. pronger is dick like all of the other Anaheim sucks players. except visnovsky
TrappedunderIcE7 6 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan Pronger sucks dick at hockey
Germy20111 6 months ago
@Germy20111 Have you watched hockey for longer than 5 minutes? He is a top tier defenseman. He is Hart Trophy winner, Norris Trophy, Stanley Cup champion and soon-to-be captain of the Flyers. I hate the Flyers, and the Ducks for that matter, but there is no denying that he is one of the elite defenseman in the NHL.
DaKoolA1dMan 6 months ago
@Germy20111 If he sucks dick, then you must suck some major black cock, faggot.
Philly2002 5 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan averys a great hockey player very skilled
MegaMma4life 5 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan Dunno what you've been readin' or smoking. But Avery does pretty damn good these days. He scores and creates loads of power plays. Which is his role.... you bumnugget!
Treety1791 2 months ago
@DaKoolA1dMan
Are you absolutely sure about that? There's no doubt that Pronger can play, but have you actually ever watched Avery play, or are you just as ignorant about it as most?
pieking4 2 months ago
pronger: talk to the hand mikka
kmyeakel 1 year ago
They recently said that "it doesn't matter if he's not facing the goalie." bullshit! They're going to say anything to stick of for their refs. I bet they make up new rules to make them look better when they screw up.
The Sean Avery rule was there because Avery was being an asshole so they wanted to stop that. The penalty on pronger was taken wayyy to far.
Source: common sense.
LAUR3Nlx0 1 year ago
Someone who believes this is a good call, please explain to me. I would like to know what rule this is. Thanks.
OwnednPwned 1 year ago
As an avid hater of the Flyers, this was a ridiculous call.
razorslice17 1 year ago
Sean Avery is a disgrace to hockey with no hockey skills... hate pronger all you want... but hes a great hockey player. If this was a penalty, play shoulda been dead. The ref should not have waited after the goal or when he saw kippurs reaction. plain and simple: it was one of the worst officiating calls in a VERY long time
ianhcky92 1 year ago
@ianhcky92 eat like wonton soup, your girl like wonton soup
BarFAN21 1 year ago
imian786, read the rule book before you try and sound like an official, it clearly states that you have to be BOTH facing the goaltender AND distracting. All of you people saying it was the right call are just biased idiots. if this happened to your team i wouldnt see you on here posting that it was a fair call.... anyone that has played hockey or watches hockey would know that pronger was simply screening the goaltender. And he was too busy slashing pronger thats why he was distracted
ianhcky92 1 year ago
Note that Pronger does not face the goaltender.
gazizzerbumph 1 year ago
Here is the "Sean Avery" rule.
"An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."
gazizzerbumph 1 year ago
i would be pissed if I was a Flyer fan, but it's the right call.
In order to keep the game from becoming some distraught offspring of Bettman-Campbell inconsistent policies, we have to make the right calls at the right times, this is 100% bang on.
eggrollrocks 1 year ago
@eggrollrocks
Wanna know something funny about this call besides the obivous that this is not the sean avery rule cause you need to be FACING the goalie??
this rule is not in the NHL rule book... aka the ref called absolutely nothing... its like calling a two line pass... thats not the rules and the Flyers 100% won the game meanwhile the refs 100% were wrong
mclovintheflyers 1 year ago
That's a good call. Ppl that are saying that it wasn't a good are dumb cuz the clearly don't understand that the new rule states that you cannot be distracting the goalie by waving ur arms etc AND U DONT HAVE TO BE FACING THE GOALIE. Great call
imian786 1 year ago
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ianhcky92 1 year ago
@imian786 No, you actually DO HAVE TO BE FACING THE GOALIE. Terrible call
OwnednPwned 1 year ago
gd call !!!
wei1041 1 year ago
Yeah, that's a crappy call.
LilMissFangirl 1 year ago
If you don't know the outcome of this video, watch the first 45 seconds on mute. As a referee, what would the call be?
FloppyBaby 1 year ago
Avery did not do this.
FloppyBaby 1 year ago
Hate the flyers, but this is a bullshit call, not to mention Kippur slashed him right after.
Yurles333 1 year ago 12
@Yurles333 yea aren't the ref's supposed to call the retaliation? hahahah
topspeedmr2 10 months ago
@Yurles333 He deserved that slash for being a prick!
quannumkid 10 months ago
Maybe if kipper would have been watching the puck instead of slashing Pronger he would have actually made the stop.
stealthrob2 1 year ago
The mistake was not calling it right away. The game was poorly officiated to begin with, but I think what the ref was hoping was that nothing would come of the hand-blinding. When the puck went in, he'd already blown the call and whistled it late. It's a penalty in keeping with the spirit of the unsportsmanlike conduct rule, but not calling it right away was the problem.
Caelum 1 year ago
Good call. In your face Pronger!
PulseOfWar 1 year ago
I hate to say it because I hate Pronger just as much as the next guy, but that ref should lose his job for doing that. The infraction happened while Richards had the puck. If that was indeed a penalty, the play should've been blown dead right then and there. Instead, the ref waited until a goal was scored and THEN decided to wave it off AND call a penalty. It would be one thing if he just waved off the goal but to award a powerplay shows exactly how badly blown that call was.
CanadianChillz 1 year ago
Everyone knows that if this call was against their team, they would be so pissed and thought they were robbed. The people that say it was a good call are people who hate Pronger (which many people do) and hate the flyers (which many people do). lolol. But that doesn't make it a good call. Could you imagine if this happened in the Stanley Cup. It would have been a fraud. These people have to stop being biased against certain teams and players and admit that the refs fucked up.
incubus77777 1 year ago
This is fuckin rediculous, fuck the refs, fuck bettman, fuck the flames
xILovePepsix 1 year ago
It would have been a fair call if he called it before the goal, he called it after they scored making the call complete fucking bullshit.
sshockey55 1 year ago
Excerpt: "...positions himself FACING the opposition goaltender AND engages in actions such as waving his arms..."----sean avery rule.
philly4f4 1 year ago
Sean Avery was facing the goalie and going nuts....get a clue. Thats a hockey 101 screen.
philly4f4 1 year ago
@philly4f4 Hockey 101 screen? Are you an idiot?
1) YOu can clearly see he takes a look back to see where Kipper's face is and then puts his hand there. He is not looking at Richards he's looking back at Kipper.
2) When Richards scores, PRONGER LOOKS RIGHT AT THE REF WITH A GUILTY FACE. WHY? BECAUSE HE BROKE THE RULES !!!
FAIR CALL
zkunit 1 year ago
@zkunit If you compare this to what Avery did, it is redic to say they are even near the same thing. The Flames should have had someone battling harder in front of the net. Plus Kippur clearly slashed him in the back of the legs. If anything the play should have been blown dead and the "minors" should have been offset. To take away the goal afterwards and then give a penalty is redic. When the shot came his hands were on the stick not in front of his face.
Metalmalitia141 1 year ago
Fair call!
mlee251 1 year ago