SYNTHESIZER RE-TUNING TO THE ANCIENT SOLFEGGIO: Part 1--Dr. Leonard Horowitz Interviews Michael Walton

[AnthoniJi]

Tuning A=444 Hz will give you C=528.004Hz. but the rest of the frequencies are not attainable with one master tuning.



[altrn8tiv]

mains electricity at 220Hz (an octave lower than A=440 Hz) must also have a disconcerting effect.I know my amp sounds horrible because of the mains hum.

I don't have a tuner,but are the frequencies of the 'sound of the sun' and 'universe' based on these ancient frequencies?

I'd expect in ancient times people would tune their instruments 'so it feels right' much like the shaman's string.

But 440 is what we've been used to for ages,it'd take reconnecting with nature to help this feel right.

[generatrix999]

Great! KORG and others are now going to remove that feature, no more master tuning for the the slaves.

Slaves are to be controlled, not set free.

[luscent3737]

Remainder of comment below: If you study crop circles there are about 11 that scientist have found that relate to scales of music. Just Intonation is the main one. If you use this scale you will notice that when you tune an instrument for the 528 hz C you will also get the 440hz A but in this case this new scale (should I say old) sounds purer. It is a balanced scale that 528hz cancels the 440 hz inharmony. When we experimented with this scale we found a more profound effect in cell regeneration

[luscent3737]

Hello. For the last 7 years I have been working with DNA repair and cell repair by modulating laser with specific frequencies. 528 hz indeed is a powerful frequency for helping repair, but there is a major problem in trying to tune instruments your way to the 528 or any of the ancient frequencies. Most of those tuners like the korg Oaisis is based on Equal temperment not just Intonation which is pure harmony of intervals. So if you tune to 443.06,you will get C-528 but the rest of tones is off

[kaferere]

Ut quiant laxis, (Ut)

Resonore fibri (Re)

Mira gestorum (Mi)

Famuli tuorum, (Fa)

Solve Polluti, (Sol)

Labii reatum, (Lah)

Sancte Johannes. Guido D'Arretzo, 11th century monk and choir master believed to be the inventor of the "hexa-chord" (six note scale) the start of written music and a usable reference scale. It was a prayer sung before each performance to thank John the Baptist for their good voice. The 7th note was added later (Ti or Si) and "Ut" was changed to "Doh"

[ROZEAUDIO]

How do I do this in FL Studio And Ableton?

[Galv140577]

tuning forks lol

[pandorawake]

Yeah take the truth and selling it for the price of a tuning fork.

The actual musician in this video is awesome though.

[dayjob]

lols.. but just for fun...

who says little green lizard people on planet X use seconds as a measurement of time? that kind makes all this irrelevant since HZ is measured in CYCLES per SECOND.

[elihusmom]

Ok - great stuff and all, but could we please hear some examples of music that is played in this tuning?? How will my Bach sound so far from it's 'intended' key? I guess 'the people's key' may not be so singable now... many questions, ya know? :)

[MrMisfit6]

...cont from below

Therefore to get C5 to play at 528 the oscillator must be tuned up by 16 cents or 15.97 cents.

Why are we being told to tune up by 12 cents or to tune to 443? My research does not agree with these figures. This chromatic tuner technique seems a bit over complicated.

The figures I see in front of me seem much more compelling so I will go with 16 until I see a better argument to prove me wrong.

Peace.

[MrMisfit6]

I took an Alesis Andromeda A6 keyboard which has the ability to tune an oscillator and gives the display reading in hz with 2 decimal places.

It is adjustable by semitones, cents and fine tuning (hundredths of a cent).

The centre frequency is 440.00hz.

I tuned it by 3 semitone, 16 cents -3 fine to get 528.01hz

The semitones are obviously just the distance from one key to the next.

When I tune 440.00 by 16 cents and -3 fine I get 444.02.

More above......

[44774477ric]

I have had a 444 phenomenon in my life for many years ...this experience led me to spherical geometry , Angelic presence and ultimately to the realization of our mission here on earth......how significant is 444 in this scale......also how can everyday men and women use this new scale to heal.....what tools are required ?

[jovdbo]

sorry, this can not be correct: all these frequency's are a little to high : they are not aligned with the old A 432 hz ! f.e. : omega432.com

[MissBehavin1111]

I was just wondering today if it were possible to re-tune my instruments(guitar and piano) to ancient solfeggio!!! Yeah! There are no coincidences!

[dadgadjohn]

Actually, if you use "Just Intonation Interval" rather then "equal temperament," then a perfect minor third interval (6/5 = 1.200000) below 528 Hz puts you right at 440 Hz. 440 x 1.2 = 528.

[aihlo]

why does 443 = 528? you guys go into that more maybe?

[richards4109]

Is it true that birds chirp and bees buzz to these frequencies?

[TheDrzin69]

If you search 528 Hz with Wolfram Alpha it come out to be " C# 5 + 16cents ". still there is no real research that is stating that this is true about this frequency.

[davide144red]

In equal temperment tuning C to 528 will give 443.993307 for A, close enough to 444. On the digital piano I use I tune +16 cents which gives it a sweet and bright sound. If I want a richer sound I use the transpose function to lower it one semitone so that C# is 528 and A# is 444

[asherasator]

Horowitz is saying that "417Hz. is dissonant". Dissonant to what? A semitone (half step) in frequencies is 25Hz. lets add 25 + 417 = 442Hz! G# is actually in the solfagio C tuning, something can only be dissonant in relation to something, not on it's own. Then Walton is saying standard "A is equivalent to F# (741Hz.) in Solfagio"? A is 220, 440, 880. (75Hz. 3 semitones higher than F# regardless of tuning)! He's full of shit. This is so asinine it's unreal, there should be moron police.

[davide144red]

He meant 417 is dissonant in relation to the other frequencies. A distance of 25Hz does not make a semitone, as the difference between two frequencies exponentially increases depending on the particular frequencies. To find a frequency one semitone higher multiply by the twelfth root of two, 1.05946309435929 , thus one semitone higher than 417 is 441.796110, not 442, besides which an equal tempered A below C=528Hz would be 443.993307

[davide144red]

The interval between 417Hz and 528Hz is a pythagorean third, which was considered dissonant in medieval music. The interval between 528 and 396 is a perfect fifth, the most consonant interval except the octave.

[asherasator]

I was rounding off at 442Hz. and most could average it about 25Hz. per semi-tone for simplicity on a tuner with stringed instruments. I already gave the basic math and explanation in the past threads from Middle C4 261.626Hz when you add 4Hz.

There is nothing wrong with dissonant, diminished or augmented chords. Church logic is primitive, stupid & uncivilized. Their musical knowledge came from Babylon, Egypt & Greece then filtered it.

[asherasator]

I cannot believe every "BillBob" that wants to achieve 528Hz. within the range of C5 doesn't know A=440 is within the range of C4, so adding 4Hz. to C4 is adding 8Hz. to the next octave the range of C5 (where 528 is), frequencies are doubled for the octave, this is so simple it's ridiculous. Idiots in here just look up the frequency of C5 523.251Hz. then add 4Hz. by calibrating the tuner & changing to "A=443 or 444Hz. THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS. It adds 3 or 4Hz to C4 261.252 & it reads DOUBLED

[asherasator]

When you tune to A=443Hz. it adds 261.626 +3Hz = 264.626 that's your new C4, your C5 will now be 264.626 x 2 = 529.252Hz.

When you tune to A=444 it adds 261.626 + 4Hz. =265.262Hz. That's your new C4, your C5 will be 265.262 x 2 = 531.252Hz.

THAT'S HOW A TUNER CALCULATES.

[asherasator]

Any person that cannot grasp the basic math & how a handheld tuner or synthesizer functions & calibrates is too stupid to be involved in healing themselves or others with frequencies & needs a basic education in modern music concepts, terminology & theory. New Age crap is always marketed by & sold to ppl who are ignorant & have barely any practical foundation or education in real science or reality.

[davide144red]

It seems you are ignorant of the math involved in equal temperment tuning. You are correct about frequency doubling by octaves, however this is an exponential process. Yes if you add 2Hz to 261.625, this would add 4Hz to 523.25 to equal 527.25. However we are talking about retuning A4. To find one frequency from another in equal temperment you must us the twelfth root of two: 1.0594631. A4 is 9 semitones higher than C4 so to determine its value you multiply by 1.0594631 to the ninth power:

[asherasator]

I'm very well adept of equal temperment.

The point is 'the tuner' calibrates within the C4 octave range and processes everything else like a calculator, so when you hit the same note in any octave range it will read it from C4 octave range, the device doesn't care if you play C3, C4, C5 or whatever What I've been talking about is how to work with tuner and how IT READS so an average person can use their guitar, violin or basic synthesizer. electronic devices have a hard time with the decimal.

[davide144red]

what you're saying is that a handheld tuner when asked to tune up 2Hz will add exactly 2Hz to every note so that: C = 263.625 C# = 279.183 D = 295.665 Eb = 313.127 E = 331.628 F = 351.228 G = 393.995 Ab = 415.305 A = 442 Bb = 468.164 B = 495.883 This makes B 6 cents flat, quite inaccurate. So how do you know how handheld tuners calculate so poorly?

[asherasator]

It's quite well known in the music business and with programmers that electronic devices: tuners and keyboards cannot reproduce frequencies 100% accurate. It's because of the decimal. That's my point the whole time, It doesn't matter if real 528Hz is 443 or 444Hz. on a real piano tuned accurately with the precise math, the tuner processes it it's own way. I'm not gona say it uses only total whole numbers but it will be off by 1 or 2 Hz. depending on the device.

but it has it's limits & methods

[asherasator]

In a certain sense, the tuner is more accurate from a sonic point of view: everything it senses above or below it's octave is either in tune with it's basic foundation or not regardless of the math. Every instrument produces over and undertones which can affect it.

[davide144red]

1.6187928 x 263.625 = 443.363 not 442

[asherasator]

It's almost the golden ratio you're using 1.618033 lol! The fuqing tuner or your synth will not read or produce it as such though!

[asherasator]

Just like when classical musicians want to use baroque tuning 1/2 step down they go from A=440 to A=415 25Hz. lower. So don't ride on a bunch of shit out of context. I wasn't talking about a scale. I'm talking about calibration.

So if you add 4Hz to to A4 give then frequency of A5 Jaq.

[davide144red]

The difference of one semitone in hertz depends on the frequency: C4: 261.625 C#4: 277.183 - 261.625 = 15.558 D4: 293.665 - 277.183 = 16.482 Eb4: 311.127 - 293.665 = 17.462 E4: 329.628 - 311.127 = 18.501 F4: 349.228 - 329.628 = 19.6 F#4: 369.994 - 349.228 = 20.766 G4: 391.995 - 369.994 = 22.001 Ab4: 415.305 - 391.995 = 23.31 A4: 440.000 - 415.305 = 24.695 Bb4: 466.164 - 440.000 = 26.164 B4: 493.883 - 466.164 = 27.719 C5: 523.251 - 493.883 = 29.368

[asherasator]

Let be clear, I'm talking about using a handheld tuner when calibrating. The 25Hz. is in calibration with the tuner for a semitone. I am not talking about the exact note frequency differences for a chromatic scale in equal temperment.

[Davylp]

Anyone know how to contact Michael Walton> His sites number doesnt work. i emailed no reply?

[freddiedread]

I'm a guitarrist. I make a living in Malawi teaching guitar. however I started using a tuner about a year ago only.

I've recently been studying Solfeggio and have some basic knowledge of GEMATRIA.

With my tuner, and also a computer tone generator I have made the following observations..

Tone generator at 528 = 444 on my tuner

and A string 3rd fret = C

But when I play A open it isn't quite right. Open A sits on 443, as do the other strings.

I use 444 for the following reasons..

[asherasator]

That's because actual stringed instruments create frequencies with the decimal. Computer programs do not create frequencies with the decimal correctly so the calibration is higher. For most stringed instruments C=528Hz can be read at A=442Hz. On computer programs 443Hz. is about right. 444Hz is pushin it, but maybe it depends on the tuner, some may not be programmed with the decimal in mind or you're tuning slightly sharp. That is the only way I can see it reading higher.

[dethtongue]

... and those reasons are....?

[markmusicman]

It could be the analog to digital converters in the computer sound card. The cheaper the sound card the less accurate the computer will read the tone.

[freddiedread]

Hello all, i'm enjoying this refreshing discussion. And what amazes me (thus far) is that people aren't throwing insults at each...at least the 528 must be working ;-)

Normally on youtube when people call another person 'wrong'...it's most of the time accompanied by things like "were you dropped on your head as a baby?".....and etc...

Anyway...my point is....i'd like to throw a spanner in the works if I may...

(see next comment...I have 'ran out of characters' for this message...

[midnightrider]

Dr Horowitz is wrong about the tuning he and Michael Walton are using and I CAN PROVE IT. I tried to tell him this and he wrote me back saying I should never write to him again. All I was trying to do was help him. I tried to also tell him that he has mistakes on his web page in the tuning section. 714Hz should read 741Hz!!! I can show you the letter and that my tunings are more accurate...PEACE!!!

[asherasator]

Horowitz and Puleo are completely wrong. They claim standard tuning was C=512Hz which is only possible if A=432Hz (Verdi tuning). Calibrating a tuner to A=442Hz gives you C=528Hz. make a frequency generator generator intone 528Hz. use a tuner at A=440hz to register the note. You'll see it's sharp raise the calibrater button to go up 528hz will be in perfect tune at A=442Hz. These guys are a fraud and selling to ignorant newagers

[midnightrider]

Sorry asherasator...Your on the right track in saying that this video is wrong in it findings about the tunings, But you are wrong also.

To have C = 528Hz you have to calibrate your tuner to 444Hz. Then you will be as close as you can get with a tuner, You will be off by 1 cent,

[asherasator]

AT A=440Hz Middle C is 261.626 x 2 = 523.252. At A=442Hz Middle C is 263.something (closer to 264) x 2 There is a DECIMAL, IT IS NOT A WHOLE NUMBER. YOU HAVE CALCULATE WITH THE DECIMAL. The frequency 528Hz from from a tone generator is registered on a tuner in perfect tune at A=442Hz. In between A=442Hz and 443Hz is more accurate. Synthesizers and programs cannot generate correct frequencies with the decimal in mind.

[midnightrider]

asherasator...I dont know how your coming up with your conclusions but I will tell you I have confirmed mine two ways. One way was totally inside the box i.e. digitally....The other was sending a sine wave out of my speakers to a BOSS TU-12 tuner...Both ways confirmed 444Hz is what you need to use.

[asherasator]

The math speaks for itself

[asherasator]

when an octave is doubled the frequency is doubled, if you added 4Hz to A=440 that means C 261+4Hz=265Hz

You're calculating from the the wrong octave.

[midnightrider]

asherasator...I dont think Im calculating from the wrong octave. In this case we are using C5 as the reference. At 440Hz C5 = 523.25Hz. We are now changing that to equal 528Hz. But it doesn't really matter what C you change. All that matters is that one of your C's is at 528Hz. You can change C4 if you like. All that matters is that one of you C's is at 528Hz and then you tune your instrument in reference to that. To get C = 528Hz to show up on your tuner in tune or as close as possible...444Hz

[asherasator]

Middle C is C4-261Hz. That's where it's added and calculated from when a tuner is calibrated. So if you add 4Hz there that means at C5 it adds 8Hz, at C6 adds 16Hz, C7 adds 32Hz. So at C5 it adds 8Hz. 523+8=531Hz.

[asherasator]

It grows in powers of 4 per octave with it's root and base at C4 261Hz. NOT JUST ADDING 4Hz per octave, BUT DOUBLING EVERY OCTAVE. All octaves are doubled that's basic musical frequency understanding. 440s octave is 880 double that 1760 double that 3520, all those notes are A and it's octaves. we didn't just add 440 to 880 to get the octave, YOU DOUBLE IT. So if you tune to A=449 your'e adding Hz in the powers of 9 cycles per octave 9 18 36 72 144 etc.

[asherasator]

At A=443Hz as the video suggests: Middle C (C4)=261.626+3Hz = 264.626 x2 = 529.252

IT IS STILL OFF AND OVER 528Hz. Even without adding correctly what would be behind the decimal. Only at A=442Hz is C5=528Hz possible. THAT IS WHAT A TUNER (Korg CA-40) SAYS: 528Hz is perfectly tuned when A=442Hz

[asherasator]

In fact at A=443 the actual difference tuned sharp from 528Hz at C5 is almost the same as the difference flat at A=440 especially when the numbers after the decimal are equated. If people are really serious about 528Hz and it's benefitsthen the way I described is the only accurate way that the math and the tuner agrees.

[seeretur]

You have to remember that all the pianos, synthesizers, keyboards, etc. are not 100% accurate on a perfect tuning. You have to"temperate" them with your ears. I am not a physician neither a mathematician, but if you calculate the exact measure like Pythagoras did with his monochord, you will notice that a perfect keyboard will never exist. So, just tune whatever C do you want at 528hz, and tune the rest of the notes, taking that C as a reference.  Sorry for my english. Peace

[asherasator]

Yes I agree. Electronic keyboards in this case must be calibrated at A=443Hz because they cannot accurately create waves with the decimal. Real stringed instruments to achieve accuracy must tune to A=442Hz to get proper 528Hz. because they do create frequencies with the decimal. They way the math works out with a tuner it adjusts at C4 and it does sense the frequencies with the decimal calculated and then calibrates.

[asherasator]

Some think Middle C is 523Hz. It is not. It is an octave above middle C. So just adding 4Hz to the tuner by calibrating A=444Hz is incorrect. At C=261.626Hz + 4hz = 265.626 x 2 = 531.252Hz. That's not getting accurate numbers with the decimal in mind. So A=444Hz is off the mark.

[asherasator]

Think about it... just adding 4Hz (not including the decimal) is raising it 3+Hz above 528Hz at A=444Hz

[sonofhendrix]

As far as i can tell they are saying A becomes 443 hz instead of 440hz(standard orchestra tuning).

So i have used my guitar tuner to do this and tuned the other strings based on this new sharper note.

I will report any miracles. I teach guitar for a living so i should at least notice somthing.

[sonofhendrix]

more like a scam to sell tuning forks.

[asherasator]

Absolutely

[certifiedhealthnut]

do you know Alan Howarth at

RAMUSIC[.]com

[nycballer4life]

Ra music ?freemasons again?

[JagrrrTV]

What about someone who doesn't have your fancy computer & equipment? How can it be your tuning every note different that C is +12 cents and F# is right on. I mean it's seems like I wouldn't be able to just tune to your C because then the other notes would be off. I do not program every note like this guy. Is he a musician at all or computer programmer?Does Mr. Science play one note without his computer there? Could you explain to us so we understand instead of just talking to yourselves?

[JagrrrTV]

I got a question why did you put a huge reverb on that one sentence. That was intentional. right? I mean noboby commented on that yet. I will check the tuning for guitar. Thank you I've searching for something like this. I actually made my own scale for meditation.

[420Cheshire]

Wow. 443.06 hz = A when related to 528=C hz? and that's 12 cents sharp on synthesizers?

I had heard 444=A and that it was 16 cents sharp.

We need to lock down which of these two is correct. Everything is relative to whatever we select and focus on.

[JakovStarcevic]

Can i tune guitar on that Frequencies

[jamessanger]

how can 443 hz = 528 hz ? how can 741 hz = A440 hz or F sharp ?.it is insane to try and retune a metal tuning fork with a korg chromatic tuner ?! which is not accurate enough...... a rough way to do it would be with a paterson tuner.... but even that is not perfect.

Nature is not 'tuned to solffegio' birds dont sing exclusively in the frequency bands you are claiming as your own. I think you are going about this all wrong.

[DrLenHorowitz]

The 528Hz, according to several scientists, is associated with MIraculous repair of DNA. It does this vibrationally spinning the DNA in water (a liquid crystal superconductor) back into the natural spiraling SCALE that directs the universe to spiral and spin (i.e., the musical-mathematical matrix). 639Hz is part of the CENTRAL TRIAD of metaphysical music (i.e., most spiritually endowed), but it is not known, yet, what it can be best used for.

[jamessanger]

?what are you referring to here ? the 'spiral of fourths and fifths' or the exponential curve of pitches in a musical scaling system ? I've been making music in a micro-tonal scaling system for 20 years and have done a lot of research in this area, I have even tried out your solfeggio tones, I am yet to find the mystical properties you ascribe to it. I feel the integral point you're missing is it is NOT the frequencies that are relevant but the relationship between them.

[wbfree]

I'll be the first to admit I'm out of my league here and maybe I"m just pointing out the obvious but Dr. Len is referring to vibrational healing wheras music is about the relationships of the tones...healing is about the specific wavelength or frequency. All organisms and matter have resonant frequencies that either break down matter, have little or no effect or in the case of pathogens destroy them. Dr. Rife, Dr. hulda clark, Dr. Bob Beck. Anyay, interesting work nonetheless.

[wyrlismike]

it seems like you guys keep referring to 528hz as the love and unity frequency. i thought 639hz was the love freq. isn't 528 the dna repair freq? can you plz clear this up?

[DrLenHorowitz]

Sorry, you got it wrong. 639Hz is the "FA" in the original Solfeggio; it stands for FAmily. The 528 is the "MI" in the original Solfeggio. It stands for MIracles. These two frequencies--The MIracle FAmily--are at the center of the Solfeggio scale.

[matzoh33]

@DrLenHorowitz I'm a musician and very interested in this but saying that FA stands for family and MI stands for miracles seems to me incorrect. You say these words

are English derivatives but I believe that they're ancient and came about well before the English language existed.

[kaferere]

@matzoh33 Yes. The man credited for inventing the reference musical scale as we know it was 11th century monk and choirmaster Guido D'Arezzo. He used a "warm up" prayer/hymn for his choir and, realizing the melody lay on consecutive notes (only 6) he used the first 2 letters of each line to refer to the notes they lay on. Ut, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, Lah. See my comment above for the original prayer.

[kernelklaus]

youtube lags the good videos on purpose bastards

[cadcamkenny]

Vibro therapy and divine frequencies are incredible and can help the global consciousness. This research can really help enlighten the masses get over the current "hump".

I cant wait for this message to be more incorporated into modern music. Its the perfect medium to cancel out the negative frequencies that surround us all.

Thank you for posting this.