Hydrogen Torch - Hydrogen Car

[eorgeburns8]

he still around i think look him up

[eorgeburns8]

wonder how it works?

[Pelavitafan]

Negotiating with the US government (the report says). Yeah, right. The most likely conversation with them (the auto people and the govt.) will be "Take the money we give you here or--- we harm your family and you..."---- is more likely the outcome. Then they can shelve the patents and the entire concept like they have done repeatedly to many other renaissance folks. The "NEW" energy WILL come out of Japan, China, India, or Germany, just wait and see.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

They made a full circle, then flew off behind some trees like they were hiding from me and just hovered there for a long time, then slowly came back around hovering over my neighbors yard facing me, all the while I was video taping it. On the bottom of their helicopter was equipped with high quality cameras, once I posted this to youtube all activity stopped. I have a feeling someone was using the equipment in a manner that could get them fired. I have seen no unusual activity since

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

5

I know how this is going to sound but after that, on occasion a single military helicopter would circle my house. If it had only made a U-Turn in the sky to return to base I wouldn't pay any attention yet it would make a full complete circle around my house and this was annoying me. Once I finally had my video camera ready to roll then the next time this occurred it was a channel 9 News helicopter doing the exact same thing...

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

4

I only got the basics of what was going on. These people were hired to troll specific sights but I don't know by whom. They were paid $50 but I don't know if that is per hour. It was the same sort of thing I experienced with others who suddenly realized they gave out sensitive information.After this occurred the two different people immediately had their channels deleted. After that I could peg the trolls & publicly pointed them out. These attacks have been non-existent since then

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

3

I discovered that if you approach a perfect stranger & talk to them like they were a close friend they begin divulging information they should not. I have done this to police officers, I had my ISP admit the CIA does get into their servers & mess things up in the process but he stopped talking when he realized he should not have told me that. Well, I did the same thing to whomever these trolls were...

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

2

These people were all the same. They began by saying these were fake and were quite skilled in debating, they had one goal in mind, to run a person down to total exhaustion. Never were they interested in acquiring knowledge, just to exhaust anybody presenting any logic, they had a goal & were quite good at it... until I discovered their game, then I switched the tables, many were too smart to fall for it but I got a couple of them to talk...

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

1

A few yrs ago there were multiple people with youtube channels that were only made up of a series of numbers instead of like the name of my channel or like your channel, just numbers as if there were many thousands created then assigned to people specifically to drive others away from any of my or others hosted magnetic propulsion videos. These channels were identical in that they did not contain the usual favorited or uploaded videos, just a shell...

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

@minase0906

Sure, how many people do you think have oil stocks? How much money do you suppose they make as oil stocks sky-rocket?

A person doesn't even have to work for the oil company to not want to cut off their riches, so on occasion I wonder if some people who have oil stocks that pay them well are here on my videos harassing me to delete the videos or steer people away from magnetic propulsion or highly efficient hydrogen on demand devices.

[bwv22]

He says he "breaks water down into HHO gas". In chemistry if there are two of the same atom in a compound they use a subscript next to the letter telling how many of them are. In other words, the correct way to describe HHO would be H2O (or water). So HHO gas is just steam. That would explain why it turns right back into water. He just created a gas-powered steam engine for his car. In other words, this is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Do you want to buy my perpetual motion machine?

[cchanderson]

@bwv22 Wow...I am constantly amazed with You Tube comments. H2O ...2 molecules of Hydrogen 1 of Oxygen. When you add DC current the Hydrogen and Oxygen split and Hydrogen gas can be harnessed into whatever you can dream of. We did this in High School 20 years ago...I am pretty sure it still works the same way today as it did 4.6 billion years ago.

[CorruptedPenguin]

5,500° C

[jackwhiteboy]

how do i compress it into a bottle?

[digmatology]

Okay, so far this is the only planet in the know universe that has liquid water, and give our space exploration technology as of this date it is certainly the only planet we can get to that has liquid water. Secondly water is the most important substance on earth for sustaining human life. Now you want to do what with the water???

[MRJOSEPHKING1971]

wow i need some of this

we all NEED THIS were is it ??????

[potheadpenguin]

This is BS, there is nothing "unique" about electrolysis, either you us electrolysis or you don't. Secondly, he may be able to run his car solely on water but he will just be loosing energy through the splitting.

Rules of thermodynamics:

1. you cannot win

2. you cannot draw

3. you can only lose

Thirdly, hydrogen makes an orange flame when it burns and you sure as hell can't put your finger in it for very long either

[Develop247]

ok in another sense. Can i find this machine for my business? if yes, where? if not, when will one be made? how much will this cost?

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Google: SRA H2O Welder

I have no idea if that company is legit or not, I am always very cautious of scammers.

I found that company through a keyword search for: Buy H20 welder

[Develop247]

If you do happen to come across any further information and happen to be on youtube. please let me know any further information.

[bobo007xx]

@Develop247 this idea was invented by william r lyne.author of pentagon aliens,occult ether physics,occult science dictatorship.watch nazi ufos and how they fly-you tube

[droidhunter]

i heard he was killed

[9Paradigm]

Ok, a third grader knows how to produce hydrogen, but how the hell does he get it under pressure and pure as it is? That is the real question. Or how much electricity does it take to fill the tank? Does HHO production involve electrolysys?

[LaRoucheisright]

There is no way for the massive production of hydrogen unless you use nuclear fission economically only nuclear is efficient enough to do it. Nuclear fission produces the energy flux density required to do it and make the fuel much cheaper than gasoline.

[lee5537]

When a fuel cell separates hydrogen and oxygen, you get twice as much hydrogen as you do oxygen. This is where you get H2O from , The oxygen is released into the air and the world could always use more oxygen. So I see it as a win, win situation.

[gregrutz]

It takes water AND electricity :54

to cut metal.

Remember, water is burnt hydrogen,

it takes a lot of electricity to unburn it

so you can burn it in your hummer.

[VictorRussellville]

How does this alternative fuel source effect the life of the vehicle? Are these vehicles available for sale?

[Mastervitro]

100 miles 4 ounces

25 miles per ounce

128 ounces in gallon

25 x 128 = 3200

3200 miles to the gallon!

[sheelty123]

I don't understand. What is the difference between HHO and H2O? Aren't they the exact same thing? I'm not a very good chemist...

[FrigginSmift]

H20 is liquid water, HHO is a gas comprised of two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen

[hybridfuelkits]

A couple of amazing properties hho gas has.

The torch bit is just wicked. Apparently there is no known limit to the amount of heat that can be created.

[Nirklars]

I really recommend you to check out the article "Hydrogen economy" on Wikipedia. It has some very nice charts and takes chemical reactions into consideration.

Check the chart for:

"Efficiency as an automotive fuel"

And the image:

Image:Battery_EV_vs._Hydrogen_­EV.png

Its all a question about the most energy efficient energy conversion. Sadly it does not look well for Hydrogen.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

This is so frustrating, I wanted to keep all of my paragraphs in order without you splitting them up because as you comment in the middle then as others comment it splits up the point I am trying to make so badly that nothing makes sense so I deleted the series, of course I realize that anything I say doesn't make sense to you anyway & vise versa.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

footnote: I had my paragraphs labeled A B C D E F G H I and when people can't comment at the very end it's impossible for anyone to read my posts in it's entirety and get the jest of what I am saying.

[Nirklars]

To a side note: I'm not here to finger you and ruin up your hopes. I'm trying to point out all the frauds related to water "combustion" and all the hoaxes associated with it.

There are thousands of people on the net that try to sell their bogus products that does nothing else than basically "cook" your water on your car's battery power.

The only way for a Hydrogen economy to work is to have excess amounts of electrical energy. For example if Fusion Power Plants were realized.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

-"I'm trying to point out all the frauds related to water "combustion" and all the hoaxes associated with it.-"

The big problem with that is that unless you physically test out such devices in person, as some scientists walk away from such devices baffled at how they actually work neither proves or disproves it but gets my attention that Mr brainiac couldn't disprove it upon inspection. The scientist needs it in his lab but if mine I would be afraid they would steal the design & patent it.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

I mentioned before I have exposed 2 frauds already but it is not intellegent for you to throw everybody into the same bag. If someone sold fake cell phones in the 70's it does not mean cell phones do not exist. That's like if large groups of people sold people fake cell phones then every cell phone commercial you saw you yelled out FAKE!!! COMMON SCAM, CELL PHONES DON'T WORK!!! That's just being stupid, It's good to expose actual fraud but not to attack every inventor & his device as fraud.

[Nirklars]

If you read my posts more accurately you would find out that I didn't specifically call Hydrogen power or new inventions frauds.

I criticize the news reporters misinterpretation that is "running on water", when it isn't. Water is the bi product.

I pointed out "Water combustion" as a fraud because Water can't oxidate without separating the hydrogen and oxygen first.

There are some really nice ways to separate Hydrogen from natural gas which you can look into however. I.e. Honda's FCX Clarity

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Actually water is the natural resource.

Hydrogen is the by-product.

Emissions is water or a version thereof.

Oil is the natural resource.

Gasoline is the byproduct.

Emissions is CO2 or a version thereof.

When I state it like that you are right. But I know human nature. If the system converts onboard like Stanley Meyers system & if the mass population are putting water in the tank they will say the car runs on water. which would be like me saying my car runs on oil. I get it now.

[gregrutz]

Hydrogen is a rare gas,

burn it and you get water, a stable compound.

Water is already burnt (oxidized) so you can't burn it again to get more energy.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

So if the water emissions is a form of oxidized water that cannot be burnt again then are we heading for a future where we burn up all of the usable water supplies?

Then can the oceans fish live in this oxidized water? can man drink this water & survive? are we heading for an unforeseen doomsday where we alter our only water supply that kills ocean life & mankind? If fish & man can drink from the tail pipe & live, then we will be fine, but can we?

[TheRealSiguy]

Water already is oxidized. Burning just means rapid acquisition of oxygen, so when you burn hydrogen, you get water. It is not "burnt" water, it's just water. Separate the oxygen and hydrogen by electrolysis, burn them, and you get water again. It will always make water.

Yes, there is such thing as water with an extra oxygen molecule, it's called hydrogen peroxide. But it is unstable and decomposes on contact with a catalyst. The amount of H2O2 created by burning hydrogen is negligible.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Let me rephrase:

We take H20, electrolyze it taking HHO then burn it as Hydrogen not H20. H20 (water) never entered combustion therefore if HHO entered combustion then it is impossible that H20 comes out of the tail pipe, it's something else that only looks like water(H20) I want to know what that is on a molecular scale. The "water" that comes out of the tail pipe I was told can not be re burnt.

[TheRealSiguy]

It is exactly the same as any water, H2O. Two hydrogen atoms bonded to one oxygen. Burning turns HHO into H2O, releasing heat energy. But do to the laws of energy conservation, it takes more energy to electrolyze it or otherwise separate the oxygen and hydrogen atoms to make HHO again, than it will release when you burn the HHO. So there is no "burnt" water, what he was saying is that all water is "burnt" since it is an oxide, but it can be electrolyzed to make fuel.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Also, anything that catches on fire is burnt, its gone never to return. What you are talking about is on the surface, you see hydrogen that comes from water go into combustion then water come out. It's not that simple. Take it a step further, look at everything on a molecular scale. Draw up a picture of H20 molecules, then draw up HH0 molecules, these are burnt, they ignite. If they never burnt up then you would have a perpetual system plugging the tail pipe to the intake which won't work

[TheRealSiguy]

HHO is not a compound, it's a mixture, of oxygen (oxidizer) and hydrogen (fuel) in a 1:2 molar ratio.

Burn it and you get H20 the same amount of HHO since HHO is separated water. As I said, separating water takes more energy than heat generated from combining hydrogen and oxygen molecules (burning).

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Thanks for answering that question.

I still may ask a scientist that question whenever I should happen to encounter one.

I believe the process the oil/hydrogen companies want to put in place makes it more expensive by processing it then transporting it just like gasoline to a station. Advanced electronics can produce it on demand on the vehicle using whatever energy it takes to run the engine.

Stanley Meyers, now the Japanese Water Car is all on demand. It's in the electronics set up.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

I.e. Honda's FCX Clarity

Interesting car. Some here want to argue hydrogen is way too expensive, do you know how much each cell pack will cost? I have given my theories that gas is purposely being jacked up so hydrogen then appears & will be a lower cost alternative in order to force auto sales. I worry Honda is only leasing, that's what GM did with the EV-1,then when a controlled oil supply rebounds they yank the H car & go back to gas.

[Nirklars]

I don't like those who exploit and fraud people with lower education.

:)

[thompson49022]

Many water for fuel guys are fake, this guy however is not. HHO torches are a fact.

Other companies sell them across the globe.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

A:

But you see, I don't believe those reports to be 100% accurate. I believe the science data is controlled & manipulated, with what I have seen & the various people I have encountered I know that those figures are based on primitive methods.

[Nirklars]

Science reports from different governments and corporate companies tell the same story on this topic.

I'm glad you filter what you're fed with skepticism but also remember to interpret "New Inventions" that way as well, especially those with signs like "BUY NOW! INCREASE YOUR MILEAGE", those are only screaming "fraud".

Always check sources and who managed the polls. Wikipedia content always cites sources at the bottom of the page. Claims without sources are always removed.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

You still split up my comments. A goes with B, B goes with C, why can't do something as simple as comment under C?

(Shaking my head). I am always skeptical of such devices, before I would buy I need evidece of actually working but I am not so closed minded that I don't think that new marvels beyond scientific explination don't exist, even if it should be discoverd by an un-educated farmer.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

B:

Prior to the war based on other resources I knew (know) gas will rise to $11 gal (that's when N Alaska drilling begins)

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

C:

then when gas is too pricey hydrogen will be considered cheap,boosting the economy with new hydrogen cars.

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

What else is making it difficult for me is YouTube has me pegged as posting too many comments so they reduce my allowed word count

[Nirklars]

The torch exists and works. Hydrogen is a great fuel, sadly its not realistic without excess electric power.

[Nirklars]

News reporters really like to misinform the public about how the engine really works. Its NOT powered by water. Its powered by Hydrogen, a component element in water composition. H2O (2 Hydrogen, 1 Oxygen)

In order to run on Hydrogen, you first need to separate it. This process is called electrolysis and uses VAST AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY. Electricity that comes from, (guess what) coal, oil and nuclear power.

Instead of misinforming, we need new "clean" standards and better nuclear power.

[kingkev2007]

where can you buy one of these torches?

[FlintfromOhio]

science is not done by people who should be cleaning windshields??????

I think you should remember,,,,airplanes were perfected by mere bicycle mechanics !

American bicycle mechanics !!

[WoRtH2die4]

looool again

driving with water... so what ?

electricity is needed to split H²O to get the H² which is used to power the car !

this won't solve any energy-problem !

at one point shanghaikid is right:

there (i mean HERE) is a big lack of logical thinking

WTF people !!!

[mickey8643]

if you put the right magnet setup of magnets on the axels of the car, it could recharge the batterie and seperatethe water in a never-ending process.

the only problem is that the ammount of friction would prevent any hope of free energy

[DorothyCatalonia]

You don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Are you really comparing hydrogen research to alchemy? Maybe if you actually spoke the language you could contribute here; you need not act so high minded, your own countrymen are ashamed of you. "Azn". And as for hydrogen cars, there are many hydrogen cars in this country. My friend has one and I've seen it run. Just because you are still stuck on coal (or tender and flint) doesn't mean everyone is.

[DanieljDixon]

Be careful...make plans to have your idea sent out to many people if something should happen to you. You must know that many people who are heavily invested in gas and oil may turn on you, as they often do.

[keo10203]

I like the idea but think about it. whats the price of a gallon of water. this requires fresh water not salt water or certain of low levels waters. i think we could see the water industries as the next oil companies.*scary :(*

but its an idea. my believe was that the electric car was the invention but it was killed like it showed us in the documentary *Who killed the electric car* (watch that documentary is a good video) (also there a some oil companies that own rights and stocks to h2o vendors)

[DanieljDixon]

On a Stan Meyer post, a stockbroker I forget his user, informed us that "once those people who are heavily invested in oil, owned all the patents and control the h20 rights, then they could start producing these alternatives." He said, "if they were allowed to hit the market now, it wouldn't be fair to them as they would lose a great deal of money." Poor folks I thought & disgusting. You make a point, but I think you would always be able to get it water. Using a tank to catch rain for starters.

[shanghaikidx]

Hot "new invention"??!!! Hahahahahahahahahaha ... what a piece of crap! It is only in the US or on youtube where you can tell people this bullshit! Hahahaha

[cryptikonline]

Fox is the same company whose LA station ran a story about the *chan boards, citing "hacker gangs that call themselves Anonymous" and with a random clip inserted of a yellow van exploding for no apparent reason. How depressing. There must not have been enough rapes and murders on the day these stories ran. Geez.

[Kingxcaliber]

If it take more energy to to create the electrolysis, then what what you get out of it. Then wouldn't it just make sense to make a plug-in electric hybrid hydrogen engine. I'm sure that would solve the problem. I doubt I'm the first to think of this. Anyone else have something to add Thats just me thinking out loud though.

[forgiste]

H2 is a diatomic molecule, combine 2 H2 molecules with 1 of oxygen and you get water. If, instead you break the H2 into 2 monatomic hydrogen atoms, then combine it with oxygen, you get HHO. This is basic chemistry.

[cowpoker321]

It's also basic chemistry that single H atoms together in the same space would quickly react to form H2

[1stsmosh]

his biggest problem is the price of platinum. he uses platinum electrodes for the electrolysis because it's the best metal to use.

[helgihg]

What his machine is almost definitely doing is taking water AND electricity as he states himself, to make highly burnable (and widely used in industrial and even automobile applications today) hydrogen. Hydrogen burns without any pollution at all, the problem is that it takes more energy (the electricity that he admits to using) than you get out by burning the hydrogen, the eternal problem. Hydrogen is however used because it's a practical way to STORE energy, for example for cars.

[helgihg]

Oh, and by the way... the physics for that have been known for a very long time, it has just never become practical because oil has been abundant until now.

[helgihg]

Only Fox could be so blatantly and thoroughly, completely ignorant of chemistry to think that H2O is anything else than HHO. The H is hydrogen, the O is oxygen, and the "2" in between means that the chemical we call water is made up of... you guessed it... two hydrogen atoms, one oxygen atom. H2O and HHO are the exact same thing. Anyone who doesn't instantly spot this, cannot possibly know anything, and I mean anything at all, about chemistry. With all due respect, those are the facts. H2O=HHO.

[howcares69]

When they say HHO, as opposed to H2O, they are implying that the molecules have been separated, so instead of it being water, they are all just floating around there by themselves... Otherwise how would the gases burn to go back to water? Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you go calling people ignorant.

[cowpoker321]

Like i said further up, the single hydrogen atoms would quickly combine to form H2

[3dscott]

how come i have a feeling that this guy is dead.....

[june201955]

Back in the 70's I witnessed a modified 460 cubic inch V8 on a dyno getting over 50 mpg. It was a project being done by Ford. I can only guess that the oil companies hushed it up.

[bombyshell]

also if he sell this patent to a multi national car company!! the would put that patent on a vault never use it forget about it! he jus have to do it by himself or companies against petroleum and car productivity

[phoglite]

"HHO Gas"??? he's just breaking water down into H2O, hydrogen and oxygen. There's absolutely nothing special or new here. You can do the same by dropping a 9 volt battery into a glass of water. This is irresponsible reporting - Fox just pumping up their profits with sensationalized BS. They should be informing the public rather than deceiving. Shame on you Fox.

[robs1642]

there are no cover ups people....

people just realized it takes more energy to create hydrogen than you get out when you burn it. first and second laws of thermodynamics...not the CIA

[bigrobnz]

Sell your shares in oil now and get top dollar, soon they"ll be worth nothing!!

[TKSnatch]

yea, if he gets enough press he will hopefully be fine. Dont know though he could accidentely get killed if you know what i mean

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

"Accidentally Killed", do you mean like the mysterious deaths surrounding Clinton or the CIA moon landing cover up where one guy was found chopped to peices and the coronors report said suicide. Perhaps Denny will be found with holes burnt through his eyes and brain and the coverup will state suicide by torch. That's terrible but a fact of the CIA

[TKSnatch]

Y? if the informations out there don't people wake up to reality on the so called democratic societies we live in. Is it that the people in question own the TV & radio station so therefor brainwashing the world into a state of trust. Then we relinquish all power in times of fear..

[FreeGlobalEnergy]

Since the 1970's I have seen news casts of energy and carberator improvements and statements like we should have this in production in two weeks, never happens, although Denny seems to have penetrated most of the roadblocks. he's not out of the woods until he is in full production.

[hthglllkhgjg]

if i was that guy i would show how the engine works to everyone before he gets killed,

[benjanba69]

amazing

[david415sf]

woah..