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  • @MySnaz, look I don't condone what Nadya's done but I understand it. She obviously didn't think things through completely. In her world she thought she would have her babies, hire nannies and go back to school and finish up her degree and all would be well. But Nadya giving birth to the world only longest surviving octuplets threw a whole monkey wrench in her plans. That's life, soon as you figure it all out and make plans, life happens and gives you a whole new plans you didn't ask for or want.

  • @MsSarcia But, you see that's the thing. She PLANNED to have eight, when she clearly was unable to care for six. Hire nannies. With what??? She had no job, no money , didn't even have a home, she lived with her parents in a three bedroom house. She planned for seventeen people to live in a three bedroom house?? Life didn't happen, Nadya's PLAN happened. And, it's that foolish plan that has the public outraged. That plan is why there is no reality show, and no money.

  • @MySnaz how does someone plan to have eight kids? Did the Chukwu planned to have eight kids too? Did they know one of their eight babies would die a week later? You don't know what Nadya has MySnaz, seriously, obviously she's getting buy, the kids aren't starving, they have a roof over their heads, clothes on their backs and getting a good education. Nadya must be doing something right. Nadya never lived with her mom, what are you talking about? What reality show? LOL

  • @MsSarcia Nadya and the older six lived with her mom in her mom's three bedroom house, before the octuplets were born. Nadya didn't wait years before she had the octuplets, her youngest was two or three. Out of six or twelve embryos in a healthy young woman, one or two would grow??? The reality show she was counting on, the one that didn't have because public opinion turned against her. And. yes Kate was a working nurse, which means she had a degree, and a means of supporting her family.

  • @MySnaz wrong! Nadya lived with her 6 kids in one of her mom homes. Her mom Angela moved into Nadya home while Nadya was at the hospital having her octuplets. Her mom moved in for two reasons, A. her mom home she was living in went into foreclosure and B. she moved in with Nadya and the kids to help the nanny Nadya hired to care for her kids while she was in the hospital having her octuplets. Again what reality show? Degree or not, Kate Gosselin was unemployed and so was Jon!

  • @MsSarcia I don't know where you are getting your info, but it's wrong. ONE of her mom's homes?? Her mom was in the process of being foreclosed, yet she had multiple homes?? And, what is your problem with Jon and Kate? Kate Gosselin was unemployed by choice, AFTER the sextuplets were born. Nadya did everything backward, and expected handouts to foot the bill.

  • @MySnaz I get my info from the horses mouth, not from the horses ass which would be of course the medias/tabloids. Everything I've said came directly from Angela and Nadya Suleman mouths. BTW type this in you tube search engine-- "Jon and Kate Plus 8 Stars: An Answer to Pray - CBN.com" and "One on One with Jon Gosselin At Millions Of Milkshakes - " Listen to them both say they were both unemployed and BROKE when the sextuplets were born before people stepped in and help them.

  • @MySnaz--Angela is a retired school teacher and she had several homes that went into foreclosure not just the one Nadya and her kids were staying in. She lost them all due to nonpayments which is why she moved in with Nadya and the kids. I don't have a problem with Jon or Kate and you're right, Kate was unemployed by choice, she chose to be a stay at home unemployed mom. LOL Kate had twins and selfishly wanted one more when Jon didn't and they both got/accepted handouts.Big deal?

  • @MsSarcia How in the world can you say Jon and Kate are selfish, and defend Nadya?? That woman is the most selfish woman alive!! Kate and Jon, a stable , working, yes working couple with two children, who wanted just one more are selfish, and Nadya who had six kids, no job, no father, no stable home, and implanted six or twelve embryos, isn't selfish????WOW!!! And, yes they both wanted one more child. Nadya is clearly very jealous of Kate.

  • @MySnaz well according to Jon, Kate wanted one more baby and Jon said no, because they couldn't afford one more yet alone 6. But because Kate aways want and get what she wants when it comes to Jon, she selfishly talked him into having more kids. Nadya is selfish too, don't know of any mother who isn't when it comes to their kids and what they want, do you? Why would Nadya be jealous of Kate? LOL

  • @MsSarcia LOL Either Nadya has severe FAS, or she had botox. Her lips are so fat, the dip between her nose and upper lip is non existant LOL. I can honestly say I haven't heard how Kate and the kids are doing since their show ended. She does however, have a nursing degree, so she has something to fall back on. Nadya is very obviously jealous of Kate as is very apparent in the interview, in which Nadya ripped up pictures of Kate in a bikini.

  • @MySnaz point being, you can't prove either way if Nadya did or didn't have any surgery to her tummy or lips and that's a fact. As for Kate, she already openedly admitted on Radar Online that she can make more money in the media then she can working at some hospital. So she will not go back to work as a nurse, and claimed we will see her kids and her on TV again. Again, you haven't seen the interviews Kate done that made Nadya ripped Kate picture and bad mouth her, have you? :)

  • @MsSarcia Yes, I did see the interview where Nadya ripped up pictures of Kate. And, the evidence speaks for itself obviously. The lips aren't natural, and neither is the post fourteen baby tummy. People have eyes. And, while I don't agree with everything Kate has done, I wish her and the kids the best. THEIR lives were not planned this way.

  • @MySnaz that's the problem, you saw ONLY Nadya interview with Radar Online but you didn't see Kate interviews ripping Nadya BEFORE Nadya rip the pic and rip on Kate in retaliation. You judge Nadya claiming she's jealous ripping Kate pic and talking about her, then what's Kate accuse for ripping Nadya first in interviews? And oh I see, you wish Kate and her kids well but not Nadya and her kids? That's fair, NOT!

  • @MsSarcia I just saw footage from Dr.Drew's visit to Nadya'a home, where she says she feels suffocated. Is she really that indifferent to her children? Little Aiden clearly needs help. Heartbreaking. She should never have been allowed to try to care for fourteen , when she was unable to care for six. Is Aiden getting any better? Because he really seems a lot worst that he did before.

  • @MySnaz you try struggling day in and day out with 14 kids on your own and see how you feel at the end of the day? You tried working hard in the media trying to make a lot of money fast to support you and your kids, keeping a roof over their heads, clothes on their backs and food in their mouths, then tried running after 8 two yrs old toddlers, cooking, cleaning, taking/picking up the kids from school and dealing with a preteen. At least she's not giving up on her kids, that's a plus imb

  • @MsSarcia No. This is more than bad judgement on Nadya's part. We all have stressful days occasionally as a parent. But, this child didn't get to this state from one day, or one week as a parent having a bad day. Maybe Nadya is trying her best, but this is why single moms, even with the best of intentions shouldn't have eight kids, on top of six. And, what is tagging? What did Dr.Drew nean when he said Elijah is tagging?

  • @MySnaz it's a headache looking after one child yet alone 14. Every household has its problems with or without a father in the home. When the last time you been to the poor side of your home town? Because I'm sure there's lots of tagging everywhere from neighborhood kids. I'll agree Nadya shouldn't allow the kids crayons and paint unless she's eye-ing them. But she is their mom and if she's not complaining, why should you? I just wish Nadya/kids well.

  • @MsSarcia I wasn't complaining about the tagging. I asked what it was.How is Aiden doing now?

  • @MySnaz far as I know, Aiden is doing just fine. He's in a special school for children with autism and has his own private tutor and councelor working with him.

  • @MsSarcia In the video where Dr. Drew visited Nadya at home, he wasn't doing "just fine".I would be a little wary of the tents. Children can easily become strangled by them. It's amazing how fast children can move.

  • @MySnaz looks can be deceiving. Far as I know the house may not be fine, but all the kids are doing just fine. Until I see or hear from Nadya or is proven otherwise, I'm going to continue to believe they're just fine. Nadya doesn't even use the tent now, their nearly 3 and don't need them. Beside, those tent nets are totally safe. Nadya kids never got hurt by them. :)

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  • @MySnaz you let me know when Nadya become Casey Anthony, Susan Smith or Andrea Yates. Let me know when Nadya kill her kids and her self over food stamps denial at the welfare office like Rachelle Grimmer okay? Compare to the mother's I read about in the news these days, Nadya is a damn good mother to her kids. She is one brave/courageous woman to take on so much, including public hate and still able to smile and care for her kids. Say what you must about Nadya, but she's a damn good mom!

  • @MsSarcia Why are there tents over the kids cribs? And, again what is tagging? I really don't know. A parent does not have to kill her kids to be deemed a poor parent. Why is she just opening the kids tents, throwing the bottles in there, closing the tents, and running off? She is so very obviously in over her head. And, no, I still don't see the bravery or the courage.

  • @MySnaz you can buy tents at all the babies store. They are for babies protection as well as for the mom peace of mom. Keeping the kids from climbing out of their cribs and breaking their necks or getting into things in the middle of the night. Tent nets are also to keep out bugs and other flying insects. If you had saw the whole video and not just a clip, you would have seen Nadya rushing @ 5:00AM to get the older kids up and dress, fed ready for school.

  • Cont... Nadya was making breakfast/packing lunches/making babies bottles until the nanny arrived. As Nadya took the older kids to school, the nanny got the babies up, dress and fed breakfast, Nadya got home and greet her babies, kiss/hug them, fed them and then let them play in the yard as she cleaned up their mess b4 going out to play with them. She brought them in, gave them lunch, juice, they watch tv, nap time as she rushed to pick up the older kids from school.

  • @MySnaz Seriously, you do know that Kate is unemployed now and that's she herself is taking on odd jobs to make ends meat and trying to pay her big mortgage? Rumor has it, she's dipping into the kids college funds that she claimed to opened up behind Jon's back and didn't tell him about. But again, that's just rumors not written in stones! But with no job and saving wipe out, how else is she's going to pay a heavy mortgage bill, private school etc? Just saying...

  • @MsSarciaEven though Nadya sniffed at Kate getting a tummy tuck, Nadya not only very obviously had a tummy tuck, but had a very unnatural lip surgery as well.

  • @MySnaz-- you obvously having seen the article " '8 IS ENOUGH' - NYPOST dot com" or the Dr. Phil interview Kate Gosselin done talking trash about Nadya Suleman? IMO Nadya had every reason to attack. UGH! more rumor and hearsay? Show proof Nadya had a tummy tuck or surgery done to her lip? I dare you! LOL

  • Ya know the bottom line here is,: She already had six kids, no job, no house. She should have not decided to have multiple eggs implanted, went and got a job/ education, and took care of the kids she already had. If ya can't handle six, it's highly unlikely you will be able to support fourteen.

  • @MySnaz you know, it's 3 yrs to late for shoulda, coulda, woulda and shouldn't have. The kids are here now. You are wrong about Nadya not having a home, she had one. She lived in one of many of he mom home with her six kids, just before she went into the hospital to have the eight, her mom moved in with her along wth a nanny to help take care of the kids while she was in the hospital. But what's done is done and can't be erase.

  • @MsSarcia It seems this whole thing, no father, no money, no job, many children, obviously the older children have issues , it just wasn't thought out very well. It seems like Nadya said , " I'll have as many childer as I can get from those eggs, the public will love me, I;ll get a shit ton of money, donations, and everything will fall into place".

  • @MySnaz again, you're second guessing. You can't read Nadya mind, Do you live in her home? Why sit here assuming you know what Nadya motive for having kids were? Kids/adults all have issues! It's easy for you to sit and judge another woman. MySnaz, never judge a book by its cover. Not about the money with Nadya, if it was-- after seeing her kids wasn't bring in a cent, why didn't she give them up years ago instead of taking on all the cruel, insults, hate and bitterness fromt the public?

  • @MsSarcia I think she is hanging on to her kids because they do bring in a minimal amount of fame and money. Not nearly what she anticipated, but money. It's totally ludicrious to have no job, no father, no solid plans, and have eight children , when she already had six. This isn't even about having eight children, it's about planning to have eight, when she couldn't care for six.

  • @MySnaz- What fame? What money? Nadya is broke, can't even afford to repair the damages to her home yet alone pay bills. Every day is a constant struggle to put food on the table, pay her bills and to keep her kids in private school. Nadya kids isn't bringing in a cent! Why don't you prove to us Nadya planned to have 8 babies? Prove it MySnaz, or are you just going by hearsay and media/tabloid BS? What's done is DONE! Kids are here now and Nadya's not depending on anybody to raise/support them.

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  • One refrigerator???

  • wait let me get this straight so now the government is paying welfare for selfish women who have kids so she doesnt have to work to live in a realy nice house but when she actually has to take care of them she hires nannys or gives them to relatives or locks herself in the bathroom.but my father, a veteran from wwll and vietnam died last year because he was living on the street and got what was left of his possessions stolen from him by a crackhead and stabbed to death

  • she is selfish and it is child abuse in my opinion she is not stable how can she have so many children

  • This is beyond just doing something wrong. She was wrong even having the 6 kids because she can't afford them! I feel so bad for all those children.

  • You know, I could easily say, "Bless her for taking care of these 14 children..." Kids are always a blessing....but when she brings them into this world and lets everyone around her take care of them, that is not right. Her mother can't even keep her retirement check for herself because she had to take care of her daughter. This woman is selfish. 

  • What a fucking liar, she said she put down money for this house and her father had nothing to do with it. BULL SHIT he put down the payment for it not her and what do you know she getting kicked out for not making the monthly payments!

  • wow, just let her be happy... i bet everyone who has said something negative has done something wrong in their life and has made mistakes... 1 baby is hard enough... she has handled it for 2 yrs... shes better for it! shoot my grandmother had 12 kids and they were all clothed fed and clean with shelter... she can do the same.... God bless her and those babies... media is media..... give it a rest... a blessing is a blessing... to each his own

  • @ce2know7 I'm betting your Grandmother didn't get pregnant just for money and publicity. She wasn't a single mother on welfare by CHOICE. Nadya CHOSE to have fourteen kids, with no daddy, no job, no money. She planned to have those children counting on hand outs to support them.

  • @MySnaz are we knocking Nadya for being on food stamps and having more kids when there are millions of single mother's in this country on it and still chose to get knock up again and again? The only different between those mother's and Nadya is they didn't have octuplets and made the news. Fact is; we never would have heard of Nadya Suleman if she chosen to have those 8 one at a time, since we didn't even know she had the 6. We don't know what Nadya intention were or what she chosed.

  • @MsSarcia I think the thing that angers the public about Nadya is she obviously had multiple children because she thought it would get her money, a reality show, and fame. It did get her the fame, but I think she was unprepared for the animosity.

  • @MySnaz again, can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that was Nadya motive for having octuplets? Can you prove Kate Gosselin motive for having sextuplets? If it was all about the money with Nadya, why is she broke, struggling and facing foreclosure? what's her excuse for still holding on to all 14 of her kids now since neither of them brought her fame or money? I'm sure Nadya loves her kids every bit as much as you love yours. It's possible she had kids for the same reason you did.

  • @MsSarcia Kate Gosselin had trouble conceiving, she needed fertility treatments to get pregnant in the first place. Kate's sextuplets were a surprise BECAUSE she did not conceive easily. Kate had a stable home, job, and marriage. Nadya , with six kids already clearly did NOT need help getting pregnant. She knew that, but went for fertility treatments anyway. Nadya is broke and struggling because the much anticipated reality show, and money, and fame did not come.

  • @MySnaz--Nadya had trouble conceiving/needed fertility treatment to get pregnant too. Nadya octuplets were a surprise to her too, she didn't know she would born 8 babies at once, who could predict that? Kate did not have a stable home, they applied for salvation army heating program, couldn't pay their bills, Gosselins were broke! Kate was not working and neither was Jon, Jon didn't find a job until after the sextuplets were born. Nadya is not the first or the last to have kids out of weblock.

  • @MsSarcia Kate is a nurse. Jon was working, Kate only stayed home AFTER the sextuplets were born. Before that they both worked. Obviously, with six kids already, Nadya had no trouble conceiving. If she had fertility treatments before, it must have been because she was trying to hit the big pay off. Obviously, with six or twelve eggs implanted, Nadya was trying for many babies. It's not the kids out of wedlock that is the problem. It's having many children , and expecting someone else to pay.

  • @MySnaz-Kate quit her job and decided to stay home with the twins before getting knocked up with sextuplets. Jon was unemployed, didn't find work until the 6 were born. It's on You tube, look it up yourself. Nadya wasn't going to have any more kids after the 6. She waited yrs before she did, It was only when she got phone calls/letters pressuring her to destroy, give up or pay for stores that she decided to just use them all. Nadya unplanned mistake yes, but it's a mistake she never ran from.

  • @MsSarcia The octuplets were not a surprise. As a young, healthy woman, what did Nadya expect to happen when she had all those embryos implanted?

  • @MySnaz well didn't you hear her? Nadya said; she thought that one or perhaps twins would grow. She had no idea octuplets would grow or that they would even survive.

  • @MySnaz I'll let you in on another thing... if it was all about the money with Nadya having octuplets, don't you think she would have let it been known when she first found out she was carrying multiples? Her son went missing during her pregnancy with the 8 and she never once told the police yet alone her own friends/parents. She didn't have a cent, still don't and struggling, yet she still fought tooth and nails to keep all 14 of her kids. It's not about money with Nadya having kids.

  • At first i was like omg 14 kids blah blah but for real my grandfather was one of a lot and its her life. im no one to judge anyone long as everyone is happy and safe all is good

  • You people talk alot of shit!! Shes a stay at home mom of 14!! Thats more work then any of ya'll have ever done.

  • Even though she has 14 kids, she is a stay at home mom so she just needs to make time for them throughout the day. If she was a working mom of 2, she would be gone all day and would need to make time for them in the evening and weekends. It's just a matter of making time, time management.

  • Back in the 30s people had lots of kids. It was also the time of depression so people didn't have a lot of money. Many people have grandparents from large families of that time who lived happy well adjusted lives. Not sure why everyone is making such a big deal about this. She says she doesn't take welfare. So what if she makes money off the media, those kids need to eat. Let her. Celebs make money off media all the time. What about all those reality tv people.

  • You did it on your own due to the notoriety of having 14 kids. Not quite on your own from any skill or abilities you have.

    Aside from that, gl and I hope you get some help.

  • selfish pig of a women guess who is gonna go to hell for vanity T.T

  • You are incredible. Im am so proud of you to be a mother of 14 kids.. That is so difficult to handle. Lots of noise, things everywhere but still you manage it alone without a father fugure of you life.. Keep up the good work.. Sooner or later your kids will grow faster and you will have a more great life specially when they will have their own life and a family.. "big family is wonderful"... Goodluck

  • MAKE HER WORKKK, WHAT A HOREEEEEEEEEE. STOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP DONATIONS. SHE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF, SHE USED HER MOTHERHOOD FEAT. TO GET A PASSPORT TO A SLOG LIFE. DO NOTHING. WHAT A MOTHER THOSE CHILDREN WILL HAVE.

  • CUNT PLEASE! You didn't earn a motherfucking half million dollar house! This slut needs to be living in Oklahoma where she belongs! You are NOT entitled to live in Southern California in a $500k house after you've made such DISGUSTING decisions with your life! Now SCRAM!!!!

  • thats a small house... for over TWELVE CHILDREN

    CUT THE DONATIONS

    CUT THE DONATIONS

    DONT GIVE HER ANYTHING

    STOP FEEDING OFF OF HARDWORKING AMERICANS

    NO MORE TAX MONEY FOR HER!

  • she is so stupid, not good for the kids

  • Say what you want about Ms. Suleman, but she had those kids in Jan. 2009 it's now pass Jan. 2011 and she still have all 14 of her children, she has not abandon, exploit, mistreated, abuses or neglected any of them. They are all well fed and clothes, goes to good private schools and live in a very nice and quiet neighborhood growing up with a mother who loves them unconditionally. No CPS involved, Ms. Nadya Suleman done it all without a REALITY TV SHOW or welfare programs attached! TeamNadya!!!

  • @MsSarcia Stfu octomom groupie, go have 14 kids

  • @Sm0k4bl3 kiss my ass!

  • @MsSarcia Lick my nipples

  • @Sm0k4bl3 I set them bitches on fire using a blow torch LOL

  • @MsSarcia Thats kinda kinky

  • @Sm0k4bl3, in painful! LOL

  • @MsSarcia Not as painful as giving birth to 14 kids! hah!

  • @Sm0k4bl3 I beg the differ-- Nadya was numb. :)

  • @MsSarcia Did they inject her lips while they were at it? rofl

  • @Sm0k4bl3 not funny! 

  • @MsSarcia ... no welfare programs??? So no food stamps, medicare or anything else funded/paid for by the american public. Nadya paid for everything out of her pocket, from wages she earned working ... is that what you are trying to get people to believe? Really?

  • @milomilo55 it's the truth, but you can continue believing what you want. Never was it ever my intention to change yours or anybody else opinions of Suleman. But I will leave you with this, there's no way Nadya making all the money that she is now and could still remain on food stamps and disability. Last time I check, neither welfare or disability pays for private school and monthly disability payments wouldn't even pay half of Nadya monthly bills. She made 28 thousand in July alone.

  • @milomilo55 oh and I forgot to mention TMZ owner Harvey Levin apologized to Nadya during a phone interview with her, he apologized for doubting her all these yrs saying that she would end up on welfare and disability again. She made a liar out of everybody who doubted her b/c she hasn't been on any assitance's since 2009. That girl worked her butt off doing interviews, TV show apparences, documentary, photo shoots, celeb boxing... etc just to make ends meat. She's struggling, but getting by.

  • oops I mean "assistance"

  • This woman...scumb...everyone should hate her for all that she is.

  • MsSarcia is Nadya Suleman.

    Time that she could be spending caring for her children she spends online defending herself to strangers that she will never meet.

    What a sad sorry woman.

    Poor babies.

  • It would be reasonable to say she was irresponsible in her decision to have more children, or that she didn't plan well enough. Do people not realize that taxpayers money go to allot of people who have families too large to support along with worse things? Also, I don't believe she had her kids to get her house or her "free ride" because she's publicly said that she took a lease out on her home and has turned down money-making offers. She's also said she didn't think all 8 embryos would take.

  • @ki198

    She's a lying sack of shit. The truth came out at the fertility doctors disciplinary hearing: He implanted 12 embryos, not the 6 Nadya claimed. Nadya had 26 embryos still frozen and these children were conceived from a fresh batch so her line about wanting to use all of the frozen embryos was a lie. Ask her yourself, she lives online under the account MsSarcia, among others, going from site to site defending herself instead of caring for her kids.

  • @lesterclaypool1

    Thank you for providing support and reasoning for your opinion.

    I have not researched the woman at all. I just read some of the awful things people were saying.

  • @ki198

    While I don't agree with a lot of what is said about Ms. Suleman, I certainly don't wish her and her children the harm that some seem to, I think that the information that doesn't make the headlines is often more important than the information that does.

    It's my personal belief that this multiple pregnancy was carefully orchestrated by Nadya in order to get a television deal, and I am happy that that didn't happen for the sake of her children.

  • For all the negative attn she has gotten, she really does seem to love and care about here children. I wish the best for her and her family.

  • @lemondropsforever

    She appears to love and care for her kids when the cameras are rolling, when they aren't the nannies take care of them. Her children are violent, foul mouthed monsters but it's not their fault, children learn what they live.

  • What a dumb bitch, the world's already overpopulated as it is, not to mention the fact that some of her kids are retarded as well, she should have all taxpayer support cut off and then get off her lazy ass and start working, or just get shot in the head with her 14 retarded kids.

  • not to be random but i love her voice

  • this not fair for tax payers she had gotten pregnant not planned it would be different she just wants free ride i have make my payments for my house and she dont all money given to her for free its bull crap wheres my donation? i was single mom of 3 kids and now grandma, i struggle wheres my free money and food stamps lol this lady just wanted attention and free ride....

  • many of her kids are malformed and retarded, although not quite as retarded as she is

  • she got caught up in the john & kate plus 8 celebrity, and had to have it for herself, even being unemployed with no husband living with her parents

  • whos place is it to judge? do u really think she would go through all this just to get a house? i have seen a day in her life and it is hell. one baby is hard enough let alone 8! and add that onto the 6kids she already had.get off her back. i think it takes a very strong woman to make the decision she did! try live a day in her life and then tell me that she did it all for money or for a house. its her life, let her live it. im sure its hard enough without haters!

  • Why is everybody so angry with her? She is the only one that pays for her "bad" choice to raise 14 babies on her own. Leave her alone, haters!!!!

  • @felicity12100 She's the only one? Taxpayers have been crying along with the deformed kids.

  • @stevensw Taxpayers might cry about this, but this is nothing compared to what the government uses taxpayer money for. Bush's little middle east war and bombings, anyone?

  • @felicity12100

    Actually, it's the taxpayers who pay for her bad choice, you dolt.

  • She admits in an interview that she didn't think that all 8 of her embryos would survive. In reality, she's just a woman coping with a fertility treatment that worked too well. She didn't want to give them up for adoption or abort them, she just decided to keep the seeds that were sewn. It's a tough situation, and she knows she's screwed up her own life, but she's going to do what she can for the kids.

  • @indigothecat

    She's a liar. At the fertility doctors disciplinary hearing it came out that she was implanted with 12 fresh embrtos, so her story about not wanting the 6 frozen embryos to go to waste was bullshit.

    Thank goodness for people like you. If there weren't soft touches like you for con artists like Nadia, aka MsSarcia (On this site.), to take advantage of there's no way she could have afforded her manicures and 24/7 Starbucks and personal trainer.

  • @lesterclaypool1 Soft touches? Alright then, what do you propose is the best solution to her situation? However she managed to get those babies, she at least admits she screwed herself over. I wouldn't exactly call her a con artist, especially if the doctor willingly implanted tons of embryos. I doubt she'd have planned it out that well just for the money. And again, even if she did, what's important now is taking care of the kids, unless you want to abort already born babies.

  • And a few manicures, personal trainer, and Starbucks are, while nice, hardly enough to say she's living the high life. She still has 14 children to look after, and was extremely lucky to find both financial and human help. What she abused most of all was fertility treatments. If it hadn't been so shady and there was more regulation of the system, her situation wouldn't have happened.

  • @indigothecat

    Well, they are ceratainly enough to lead to her crying poor when that money could have been better spent.

    I don't disagree that the doctor was negligent, but the doctor isn't the one has to provide for these children now that they're here.

  • @lesterclaypool1 What you've just done is the equivalent of pardoning the male from an accidental teen pregnancy, because she "should have known better than to let him get her pregnant."

    While none of what Nadya has done is criminal, nor her fertility doctors work, they are both responsible for letting this happen. They are both two consenting adults who decided this was OK together. It was later found out the severe health risks associated with multiple births.

  • @indigothecat

    Show me, in my comments where I pardoned the fertility doctor? I said nothing more than that Nadia lied about how the IVF treatment went down and that she is now the one obligated to provide for her children. If part of providing for them is that she eventually brings a case against the fertility doctor that would still be her providing for them as she initiated the legal action.

  • @indigothecat

    And I still diagree with your comment about Nadya "doing what she can" to provide for her children. In my mind doing what you can is what my wife did when we were struggling like trading off haircuts with her girlfriends for the occasional childcare that her girlfriend couldn't afford and shopping at second hand stores until we were financially stble.

    Every manicure and Pinkberry coffee takes food out of her chidren's mouth, which is why no one donated money to her.

  • @lesterclaypool1 You haven't pardoned the doctor, but you removed the emphasis from that individual, who played a large role in this.

    Even if Nadya is a negligent mother, it doesn't change the fact that those kids still have to eat somehow. If it wasn't for all the help she received, even if she was being so prudent that she wore sweats, never took care of her hair, never wore make-up, and never went out (she'd receive criticism for that, too), the babies would be in foster care anyways.

  • @indigothecat

    I pointed out the story that Nadya has been telling contradicts the facts that have come out in the doctor's disciplinary hearing, this in no way allocates or excuses blame from either party it merely shows that Nadya Suleman is a liar.

  • @lesterclaypool1 They are both pretty responsible for the mess that was made. The doctor, who works in the field of fertility and pregnancy, should NOT have even offered to put in all her embryos under any circumstance due to both the economic struggle she'd face and the fact that it's medically dangerous. Just the same, Nadya shouldn't have done this for the same reasons.

    Yet the point lies now in what is best for the children. Be mad all you want at Nadya, but she's doing what she can.

  • She should have done what Bristol Palin did: pay cash for a house so she can own it free and clear. Bristol only paid $172,000 for a five bedroom, two-and-a-half bath house and I think that would be plenty big for Nadya and her children.

  • You haters make me sick. This woman is so streched out as far as time, but has put so much thought into ther home and the dafty of these children, good grief leave the woman along, I actually like her. She do the Obama thingy and abort.................. Don't tread on my tea party. leave her the heck alone.

  • OctoLoser !!! you didnt earn a shit... sick unresponsible person

  • WTF! She lives by me haha

  • Shes not crazy, she just over did it.

  • @ doda i agree! i am nadyas BIGGEST fan, though! :)

  • @BlaykonsBacon More like second biggest fan, homey!

  • @Bukkafan

    Nadya is Nadya's biggest fan.

    You two are going to have to get in line.

    I sincerely hope that you never meet someone like Nadya in real life so that you don't get your kind heart taken advantage of.

  • @BlaykonsBacon

    Nadya is Nadya's biggest fan.

    You don't even exist in Nadya's mind.

    Unless you are of some use to her she has no use for you.

  • kids are awesome, but 12? I don't even know how you can enjoy so many children at once. For some parents it really does take time to get to know the kids and enjoy them, even for women who birth them. So i can't imagine having to get to know 12 little people all at once.

    But oh well. What's done is done. The baby's are here and at least they have a nice house to stay in now. I still think what she did was irresponsible, but we live in a fallen world and this isn't the ugliest of sins.

  • @WildNice

    You're right, the ugliest of sins is lying in order to con good hearted and hard working people out of their hard earned money then using that money to pay a personal trainer and get manicures instead of spending the money on the children that it was intended for.

  • I really like Nadya and if I had the money I would give it to her.

  • @MaryTheresa1986

    Then you would be casting your pearls before swine.

  • how on earth did she get that house if she is not working and no father for the kids are around?? ooooohhh snap, now i see why she had all those children!!

    i do see how its a rewarding career choice man i sure would love to be her!

    father? nah those arent gonna be needed ecxept for paying the taxes responsible for taking care of octomos wise career move!

  • she's a serial child abuser. she keeps those babies zipped up in covered cribs in a tiny room with blackout curtains. she's a scammer and a beggar and those kids are paying the price for her mental incompetence

  • I think she is genuinely a nice person and she is trying her hardest. She will give the kids a healthy home which some parents cant even provide for one child.

  • Ok.. nobody should have any opinions about her or anyone else. She's already done it and she's living with the consequences... worry about yourselves and stop complaining about everyone else. You help NO ONE with your complaining. Just thought I'd give you some loving advice :P

  • i only have two boys but i think i should have 12 more then that way i will have a new house

  • SUCKS TO BE HER! Now the whole world nows this was no accident. She implanted 12 embryos with the hopes of becoming rich and famous with a reality show. She didn't use the remaining 6 frozen because she believed they were lives and couldn't destroy them.. she used FRESH egg retrival. AMERICA--she still has 29 EMBRYOS LEFT.

  • ERoll on the 18th when the world will gett o know the whole truth when dr Kamrava will be before the courts cant come soon enough

    Nayda you will be exposed as the liar u are

  • @sooouuuuper Why Everyone Trinq To Say She A Liar She Anit Smdh

  • the californa board papers state that the eggs he used were fresh and that nayda still has frozen eggs in the clinic its about time the father of all these kids was made to pay for their upkeep - CHILD SUPPORT - seeing that nadya says the father knows of the children then she should be getting child support

    Nayda is a habitual lyer - and when kamrava eventaully gets to court the horrible truth will be known by all and nayda will be exposed as the lying slut ho that she is

  • how can she maintain long hair, gelnails and so many kids?

  • She's going on welfare now because she can;t make a living.

    What the hell could she ever do that would pay enough to take care of 14 kids? She couldn't pay for the ones she had before she got pregnant.

    No wanted to watch her show because it's creepy and she is clearly someone who needs mental help.

  • @Animefan300 She had a a show? It wasn't well publicized I'm thinking. I woulda watched ever single minute every episode..and likely taped it!!!!!!

  • @Bukkafan me too. lol And funny enough, so would all the haters out there that claimed they wouldn't.

  • If I had the money I would give it to her.

  • "I bought this house on my own". What a liar! That house is in her father's name. Do you think this moron has any credit???That house is now in foreclosure beause the owner was dumb enough to do a deal with her and her father.She cannot make the balloon payment on it. "Reality is now hitting me". You had 9 months before the birth to figure out how to care for them and you did not even have cribs or blankets. Yeah...I'm sure she was hoping for 'donations'. Glad they never came!

  • @coollda, actually she did LEASE that house on her own. It was her money she earned from doing various jobs that put the down payment on that home. Not her parents and definitely not taxpayers. It's possibly going into foreclosure because people like you shot down everything Nadya tries to do to earn resources. People like you won't publish her book, won't give her a documentary, won't even give her a job. On Dr. Phil show Nadya mention she had plans to buy baby things.

  • @MsSarcia hopefully people like this will wake people like her up and say, "we will not support your ill-begotten decision!" meaning that people who don't think things thru will no longer be able to make a living due to their stupidity! it is people like this that hopefully will stop this cycle of insanity!

  • @laucutusofborg, Nadya is not asking anything of you, me or anyone else. This woman is out there doing what she has to do to pay her own way. To support and raise her own kids without being a burden on taxpayers and she's been doing that going on two years now. She's not on welfare and SSI and trying desperately not to get back on it again. More power to her!

  • @coollda, your wrong. Nadya finally did get donations from around the world and you can watch it here--->youtube.com/watch?v=QW­ut5G8AX74

    Also if you go to Dr.phil dot com you will see that thanks to Dr. Phil, he called in a few favor and got some volunteers to step in and renovate Nadya La Harba home so that she could bring her babies home from the hospital.

  • @MsSarcia , so, you jelous? then go and have your own octoplets if you want some donations too!

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  • @aprilteddy89 I'm not jealous, you idiot. I'm very proud of Nadya and very happy she was able to make enough money to put down a deposite on their new home. I hope and pray she gets to keep her home and continue paying her mortgage and she and her kids will live happily in it until she is able to afford to buy a larger home. Think you have me confused with Nadya haters who stalk every video of her on You Tube spreading nothing but hate towards Ms. Suleman.

  • @MsSarcia , ooppsss, sorry! i wasnt mean to reply to you. i wanna reply somebody else and i was accidentally click your name. forgive me, k.. yup, me too, pray for her and her babies.. to all the haters, stop being rude to her. you guys just jelous of her life..take care of your own kids and stop minding someone else business.

  • @aprilteddy89 that's okay... we all make mistakes, including me. If you're big enough to apologize to me, then it's only fitting that I apologize to you as well for losing my temper and calling you and idiot. I'll accept your apology only if you accept mine? :) I think what you said is honest and true. There's no real reason to hate Nadya. I wish her and all 14 of her precious little angels well. Hope they grow up to be respectable, hard working taxpayers living a good life/protecting their mom

  • @MsSarcia

    They would have to have a good role model for a parent in order to be respectable, hard working taxpayers.

    Instead they have a proven liar and freeloader for a mother.

    Your children are going to live what they have learned from you, Nadya, all of your wishing isn't going to make them magically become good people, you have to provide the model for them to follow and you're not doing that.

    The truth came out at the doctor's disciplinary hearing: Nadya Suleman is a liar.

  • @MsSarcia That's a nice thought:) However children learn what they live, and these children are taught to be on welfare, scamming money from whomever buys the story. The fact that her small child called her a bitch on public tv, and that her kids are violent speaks volumes. Where would a child barely old enough to talk find the word "bitch", and to speak it in anger?

  • @MySnaz--Nadya has not been on any welfare/govt programs since Jan 2009. She's been working doing various jobs in the media to support her kids and paying majority of her bills. Not a cent of her money earned came from taxpayers. Are we knocking Nadya kids for using profanity when so many of our kids today are on street corners selling using drugs/guns and robbing elderly and poor, school bullying and murdering. Kids using profanity is not nice but it's also not uncommon and not a crime.

  • @MsSarcia I have three. My babies never used profanity. My daughter at 13 would not have been able to tell you what a bitch is.

  • @MySnaz well I don't know you or your kids. But I do know parents can not see what goes on behind closed door. They can't watch their teens 24/7-365 therefore they have no idea what their kids are doing until it comes to light, even though some parents claim otherwise. But if you say your kids don't know what a bitch is or never used profanity, I'll just have to take your word on it. since again... I don't know you or your kids. Profanity is not a crime. {Bitch is a female pregnant dog}.

  • @MsSarcia My question was where would a child barely old enough to talk learn the word bitch, and obviously use it in anger? It's clear the child wasn't referring to a dog.

  • @MySnaz well he knew Gloria Allred maybe he learn it from her lol, maybe he picked up from haters outside his mom home screaming at her back then, perhaps from TV or movies, Nadya and her mom argue alot back then, perhaps he picked it up from grandma. His siblings could have picked it up from school. Who knows? He said the word bitch, he didn't kill anybody, MySnaz. lol

  • @MsSarcia Oh my goodness. My guess is that the child heard the word a lot, probably in every day life. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that that child hears the word"bitch", quite a bit.

  • @MySnaz big deal! He said the word bitch, some lil kids curse and act out and like I said it's not a CRIME! It was 3 years ago when little Caleb acted out, he was only 2 yrs old. It's not the end of the world and beside it's old news.

  • the quality of this is awful... how could you get something so exclusive and then like film it with your fone

  • Fuck, I want a free mansion too!!! If I get 14 broads pregnant, will someone buy ME a house??? What a fucking BITCH this is!!!!!

  • @blupheonix44 Im fertile, hi

  • @blupheonix44 Yeah, and to add on to this stupidity, she wants take out loans and apply for scholarships to go back to school for her Masters Degree. Absolutely asinine!

  • Streight bullshit!! How come I cant get a free house just like that!!?

  • is it true that she dated the father that had his kid hide in the basement while he called the news and said his kid was in the balloon?

  • If I could send her kids a gift for their birthday, it would be a CD, by Crowded House!