Erich Kleiber rehearsal clip from Beethoven's 9th: Finale

[NamgyalFR1961]

Visiblement, EK se fiche pas mal de "séduire" les musiciens et se contente de les convaincre par l'extraordinaire clarté et simplicité de sa gestique sans chercher à faire de "cinéma". Il est là pour servir la Musique et pas pour "faire le beau".

[dedissimo]

1:55

Those don't really seem the original german lyrics. What's wrong with it?

[21katering]

Merci beaucoup 

[japanesesweet]

Berg? rumors that he was the real biological father. YOu can see the silmilarity in photos.

[ulimaino]

The lyrics are not the same aren't them?

[youtubister]

Absolutely FASCINATING clip, this.

And, does it matter what language it is sung in?

[MrAndrimoro]

genio|||

[Poussou]

La plus belle interprétation de la 9ième selon moi.

[jin12345678]

actually I think erich kleiber was a greater conductor than his son. but the two are very different in many ways.

[ipmoic]

Erich Kleiber always seemed a bit tough and straight-laced in his nevertheless exemplary performances. But Herr Kleiber's greatest achievement, in my book, was fathering the much greater Carlos. From where Carlos got his musicality is simple enough. Where he got his humanity, his élan, his joy and his ability to truly inhabit a score is one of those great mysteries.

So many thanks to the father of perhaps the greatest conductor of the end of the 20th century.

[ellandelachapelle]

@ipmoic I agree. But one understands the awe of the son when heard THIS. (very impressive. But he looks like a general. Someone ever saw him smile?) A pity he never thought he could match this!

[sclyfies]

wow, that conductor sickens me, he does not have enough umph for this piece.

[imsleepyanddead]

by "umph" you mean, he doesn't jump around enough?

[momentimusicali]

It may seem strange, but this is sung in czech language. In the years of early communism after World War II it was usual to perform such pieces as the Beethoven 9 and even Brahms Ein Deutsches Requiem etc. in the national language of the respective communist country. I just wonder, how Erich Kleiber could live with that...

[CaptainBluebear08]

Cut it out. That was quasi everywhere; not just in the communist 'countries'.

[momentimusicali]

:-)

Are you sure it was usual to perform Beethoven 9 or the German Requiem sung in French, Spanish or Swedish?

In opera I am sure it was like that

but was it so also with large vocal-symphonic compositions?

[CaptainBluebear08]

I am a 100% sure that, f.instance in Germany, they for a long time sang all the Italian, Russian, Hungarian, French etc. operas in German.

In the southern countries alike. There exists a Parsifal-recording (Gui, conducting) with Callas singing it in Italian...

In UK you had the great Wagner operas (entire Ring) sung in English, cond. Goodall. This is all very marvelous stuff. About Beethoven9 & Brahms Req however I am not sure.

[GliAmiciDelLoggione]

The ones believing to hear singing in German are true German alcoholics, as this version of Beethoven and Schiller's "Ode" is all clearly sang in Italian. For many years ALL operas and oratorios originally in German and French were sang in Italian outside those countries. (And Italian operas are often sang in vernacular in several German and French houses, even today).

[pj1860]

Great clip...I love Prague, Beethoven and B&W photography, so this is perfect! I've heard much more of Carlos Kleiber too, so it's interesting to hear Erich.

[joeocho88]

Prague is CZECH!

[macakih]

Czeck!　

[cvkkvc]

If that is german, my native language is something else...

[NnFfBb]

So much for Beethoven's "True" 9th symphony...

[Fuiga]

that is not German

[twcive]

Its german

[OdetoJoy9]

Why does it sound different, then?

[twcive]

Perhaps its just the quality of recording. I do however hear german being sung in some parts. It wouldnt make any sense for them to switch languages inbetween chorus.

[OdetoJoy9]

They should not have changed the language- that's very stupid

[althen213]

In what language were they singing?

[dhand59]

It should be German, but it's hard to recognize, perhaps their Eastern European accents make it muddled

[nibelungensohn]

That doesn't sound like Schiller to me.