Using a Torch to Remove a Rusty Muffler Part 1

[supperclodbuster]

It's not cool it is HOT very HOT.

[tony20c]

Geat vid. Answered all of my questions.

[negritorican]

great video....pretty funny too :)

Just wonder, how do you know when the bolt is ready to be removed? Do you recommend you keep torching it till it turns cherry red?

[joshTrites]

and just for a helpful hint. when trying to break the rust and heat alone just isnt doing it. try putting water on it. i find gatorade bottles work great. that will break the rust from the bolt almost everytime

[sphan32]

Use it for the forces of good. :3

[SzymekCRX]

I didn't see a welder among Your tools. Have You got it ? Can You do a welding tutorial ? :)

[xide3]

wow what country are you in because normaly Acetylene tanks are maroon/claret and oxygen are black with a grey ring?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@xide3 That is true with the larger tanks but these smaller ones are different for some reason. Thanks for the comment.

[joshTrites]

@EricTheCarGuy not necessarily, the size doesnt determine the color. color is determined by the company that distributes the gas/fuel and oxygen.

[hoopfan71]

It felt like I was watching a drug commercial with all the warnings you gave :-). I've never needed to use a torch, but this is great info for future reference

[EricTheCarGuy]

@hoopfan71 It's one of my favorite tools, thanks for the comment.

[akwroclaw]

informative masively

[skatejames]

how much did everything you put on cost?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@skatejames I don't remember honestly and besides I don't discuss pricing only repairs.

[blackkat7073]

im watching this because i sooo want straight pipes haha

[EricTheCarGuy]

@blackkat7073 That sounds like fun.

[basslinenut]

you were lucky with those rubber mountings iv hade some before where i got rather redfaced lol and i had the fortunate use of a ramp sweet vid dude iv burnt myself somuch wth those thins do you have any videos on welding im new to it and i get loadsa blobs when im welding :(

[EricTheCarGuy]

@basslinenut Using the penetrating oil on those hangers works wonders I highly recommend trying that next time. Thanks for the comment.

[Motorfordtoyota]

Im trying to remove the mufler on my 88 4runner. It uses exhaust clamps, the clam came off with relative ease, but now the two pipes wont come undone. I dont have an oxygen/setaline (or how ever you speel that) torch, just a little propane one. Would that get the pipe hot enough, or should I just drive around for 30 minutes then pull it off with some fire-proof gloves?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Motorfordtoyota You may need to cut it off as where the clamp was left a 'dimple' in the metal which locks the 2 pieces together, heat might help but you may need to cut it in the end.

[Motorfordtoyota]

@EricTheCarGuy Actually when I went back to look at it, there was a flange at the back of the cat. The bolts for it came out no problem, so that all worked out! Thanks.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Motorfordtoyota Good deal, thanks for the update.

[Motorfordtoyota]

@EricTheCarGuy no problem!

[Geardoodle]

Be sure to protect those eyes with dark glasses!! One day I used torches just like this for some manifold bolts on a truck.I didn't protect my eyes.It didn't seem to bother me at all....until later that night! My eyes burned and watered all night like they had salt in them or something.It's a mistake that I wont make twice.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Geardoodle hence the reason I show using them in the video, sorry to hear about your eyes man. Thanks for the comment.

[YourePrettyGoood]

@Geardoodle lol its called flash burn and yeah it sucks. Arc welding is the worst. Will burn your eyes and whole face up in minutes.

[UrNemesis5366]

i wonder how that person feels to be the only one to click the 'dislike' button?

[Lokivoid]

Another trick with torching is to heat one side of the bolt, remove the heat and apply a candle to the opposite side of the bolt. The thermal differiental will draw the wax into the threads effectively lubracateing the bolt. Its normaly used to help freeup header bolts or reduce the risk of snapping them. Though personaly i would of just sawzaw that whole pipe off at the header flange.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Lokivoid Great tip, thanks for posting.

[ihasanopinion]

keybanger!!!!!

[dureyes]

That was so cool, great job. Where is your brother? He should be helping you. :-)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@dureyes Thank you. He's not very mechanically inclined so I'm better off doing it for him. Thanks for the comment.

[fourpointohh]

tryed to put a fire out with some gas... didnt go fast enough

[EricTheCarGuy]

@fourpointohh Yea I tried that once too, didn't go well either.

[thizguy94]

eric i learned alot from this video, my dad tought me a while back that the tip of the flame will alway be the hottest, he was right. just a lil tip, great video as always.

[chamblizi]

0 people disliked this because they like word "turboChargedHypoDrivness"

[EricTheCarGuy]

@chamblizi It's either that or the guy that puts a dislike on EVERY one of my videos hasn't found this one yet.

[chamblizi]

@EricTheCarGuy lol u wont have to worry about trollism cause you haven't slipped up in your video...

[djdan151]

ye man dont do this if your due a CAT scan man...

[EricTheCarGuy]

@djdan151 Good point, I didn't think to mention that, and I think you might be referring to an MRI as thats the one with the big magnet.

[djdan151]

@EricTheCarGuy yep definitely meant MRI but ye heard some nasty stories

[EricTheCarGuy]

@djdan151 Me too.

[Bushougoma]

What size welding tip was that?

If it's a Victor torch it should be imprinted on the tip itself like 1-W-1 that's model W1 size 1 tip.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Bushougoma To be honest I don't know I do believe it is a Victor set however.

[erectionaffection]

hey eric im changing my exhaust and i dont own a torch how else can i free the bolts i used pb blaster if i heat the bolts with penetrating oil on them is that dangerous

[EricTheCarGuy]

@erectionaffection Simply put don't do it without a torch. The only other option I can think of is to cut the old fasteners off and without compressed air this will take a long time indeed. Heating the bolts with anything other than a torch like the one shown in this video is a waste of time in my opinion. Penetrating oil really won't do much good either, use a torch once and you will never go back.

[Bushougoma]

What about a brazing kit that has two tanks and mixes Mapp gas with oxygen?

I recently bought a real Victor oxy/acetylene setup but I noticed the brazing kit at a big box store.

Do you think mapp / oxygen would work for those on a tighter budget?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Bushougoma If I'm honest I haven't tried mapp gas so I really couldn't say. I will say that you need to heat the fastener to the point of being cherry red, if not your wasting your time.

[hubbleISS]

If you dont have something like that, couldnt you also use say a smaller torch like w/ Mapp gas, that it might just take longer ?

"..be a man, even if you're a woman be a man..", lol.. Btw did T-Rex get hold of his muffler ?! never seen one so bad

[EricTheCarGuy]

@hubbleISS In short, nope. You need a torch like this to get it hot enough to break loose, the hotter the better, don't waste time with Mapp or Propane as that would be futile. Lets just say my brother let that muffler go way past it's service life.

[hubbleISS]

@EricTheCarGuy Ok Thanx. Say, this brought up another question. Are OE exhaust components aluminized steel or Ssteel ? Its just that most times when buying the muffler assembly, all its parts do tend to rust on out after several years but the other exhaust components on the car have not shown signs of serious deterioration, just some surface rust and yet its 19 yrs old nearing 150K.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@hubbleISS Depends on the manufacturer and the model of car but some are stainless steal which will last a very long time, I'm not sure about the aluminized steel however as I have little experience telling the difference between the 2.

[Bushougoma]

In case anyone's interested those little files used to clean the torch head are for cleaning carb jets. The tool is called a carb cleaner wire set.

I had to get one for my torch after seeing it.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Bushougoma I actually got my set from the same place I got my torches and it is listed for torch cleaning, personally I would use something less abrasive to clean carb jets as they are usually made of soft metal.

[Bushougoma]

@EricTheCarGuy I agree you shouldn't be sticking files into precision bored orifices like carb jets. You could alter the flow rate or mess up the spray pattern.

[fckurvtc]

what brand torch, gauges, and regulators are those?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@fckurvtc Lincoln I think.

[Bushougoma]

How many cubic feet are both of those tanks?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Bushougoma Not sure to be honest but they are the smallest size you can get.

[DevinL16]

lol yes....thin latex gloves....hahaha

[bozzza69]

The good old hack axe

[EricTheCarGuy]

@bozzza69 Probably one of my favorite tools.

[Smileb1b]

I have an exhaust leak at the front of the car. I don't hear or smell anything underneath but I do hear and smell exhaust in the engine compartment at the back of the engine. Any ideas on how to track down exactly what is causing this?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Smileb1b Take a rag while the engine is running and hold it to the tail pipe, the leak should get much louder, you will probably need a friend to help either look or hold the rag.

[Smileb1b]

@EricTheCarGuy

I used duct tape and some rags. I felt the exhaust on my face. I felt around at the back of the engine and it turned out the EGR pipe had a hole in the bottom of it.

Thanks for the tip!

[Smileb1b]

@Smileb1b Damn it's expensive!

[imthechandyman]

In my metal fab 11 class, i learned the saying: A(acetylene) before O(oxygen) or up you go... just a little saying for you its also applys for turning the flame off.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@imthechandyman Great suggestion, thanks for the comment.

[AceOHeart]

is it possible to do the same job with one of those hand held canaster torches?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@AceOHeart If your talking about a propane torch, no, it won't get hot enough.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@zztopgearhead1 I did some research and it seems the computer controls the fan based on information from the coolant temp sensor and there doesn't seem to be a separate switch for the fan. If the temp sensor doesn't help then the problem may be in the computer or another one of it's inputs. You might try what I did and google the problem and see what you find, sorry I couldn't be of more help.

[mcgee6611]

@EricTheCarGuy eric is there anyway to fix shifter slop in a 1995 honda civic ? and how hard of a job would it be?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@mcgee6611 Yes, the easiest way is to replace the shift rod that goes between the shifter and the transmission. Not that difficult at all really, the hardest part is getting the exhaust out of the way first.

[mcgee6611]

@EricTheCarGuy Could you possible make a video on it?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@mcgee6611 If I had a car with that problem I could but I don't at the moment sorry. I am however working on a clutch video on an Integra that shows how to get the front part of the shift rod off but that might not be ready for a few more weeks yet.

[dextro2410]

This brings up another issue that I have aswell. Ive got an 01 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L with a 4" long arm lift kit among other things. The problem is making a fabricated piece to cure the death wobble above 50mph. The wobble is coming from the track bar (aftermarket) bolts ovaling out the bolt holes on the unibody frame and on the passenger side of the axle. The metal is so weak and thin at these places it cant handle the stress of the lift. any Ideas?(Metal plates welded onto the brackets?)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@dextro2410 I will be the first to admit that I don't do much work with lifted trucks however, I do happen to know a few people in a local Jeep club that could probably help, google "Terrain Stompers" and check their forums.

[dextro2410]

Just before the torch leaked and you had to clean it you were about to talk about toech cutting. Not sure if this subject already came up from this video but I was getting very excited (for a split second) when you were about to go into that. Maybe a video on torch cutting or even welding perhaps???? I know in a different video you mentioned u wernt a very good welder but I think going over it all would be very very sweet!



[EricTheCarGuy]

@dextro2410 That sounds like a great idea. I'll see if I have some old exhaust pipe down at the shop and perhaps make a video for you. Thanks for your comment and suggestion.

[dscgfr5]

I had a SL402 (IMCO Muffler - Saver Line Series) welded on my 90 Accord LX today. I should of asked to see the muffler first cuz when he was done I noticed it was 2 inches shorter than the stock and narrower. Will this difference hurt my car. It's hard to tell if there's any difference in performance. It's seems a little more restrictive *i think. I realize this is off the record of the video. I can't find any answers. thx man

[EricTheCarGuy]

@dscgfr5 I think the adage here is you get what you pay for. I don't think it will effect performance enough for you to notice but it will probably rust out faster at the welded connection. You should be fine though.

[dscgfr5]

@EricTheCarGuy That's great news man. I was expectin' a horror story like "GET THAT MUFFLER OFF YOUR CAR RIGHT NOW!!" Definitely goin' with a right size quality muffler next time. I spoke with the owner at his other shop as if interested in a muffler & asked if the SL402 would be OK. He said it may even be better (i wonder), so that's a double confirmation. I can sleep now - zzzz zzzz zzzz

[EricTheCarGuy]

@dscgfr5 Have a good sleep. :)

[cooljestin1]

what a relief when that sucker come out right?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@cooljestin1 I never have any doubts when using my big red wrench, one of my favorite tools if I'm honest.

[ballershanelle]

Questiona? lol . replacing a front pipe but thread itself is seized in manfold/front pipe connection. able to remove 1 whole 13mm thread srew and bolt and the other two bolts but 2 sreaws are seized in. Yes. Im able to screw on new front pipe butttttt... i wanna get the screws out. i want to heat or find someway to get an induction tool??? any ideas for first time heater?? propane heater good enough??

[EricTheCarGuy]

@ballershanelle Propane won't be hot enough so don't even bother. You can find a set of torches similar to mine for a nominal expense. Heating is pretty much like you see in the video for just about everything, make sure it's red before you start to turn it and embrace the pain of the tiny burns that you may get, you will get used to them.

[jeepcherokee40]

love the videos! I know how to do most of this already but its great to see someone doing it right on youtube verses what I have seen

[EricTheCarGuy]

@jeepcherokee40 Thanks for the comment. I only post videos that I would watch, if I don't like it how would I expect you to watch it?

[m98h20]

"even if you're a women be a Maan"

funniest part of the video LOL LOL LOL

Thanks for a very informative and funny tutorials.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@m98h20 Thanks for the great comment.

[JaxRwld]

Great Vid Eric! You have a gift in front of the camera and not very many people can say that. I look forward to seeing your own show on t.v. in the future. Keep the vids comin.

[EricTheCarGuy]

Thank you very much for that comment. If you know any producers turn them my way, I'd be happy to do a TV show.

[diulaylomochohai]

hey eric,

thanks for another great video. I saw that you jacked up the integra not using the tow hitch... i thought all honda/acuras FWD, to jack up the rear, the jack point is the tow hitch. where was your jack point?

i am interested because i m always afraid of using the tow hitch as a jack point, but every honda manual/shop manual i seen points to the tow hitch.

thanks!!!!!!!

[EricTheCarGuy]

Normally I would jack it up there but in this case I jacked it between the rear suspension mount, the reason, I needed to get more "air" to get my fat but under it, the further you go under the higher the car will be in the end.  Don't worry about jacking on the tow hitch I do it all the time, the rear of the car doesn't have much weight at all so jack away.

[diulaylomochohai]

eric,

thanks for the explanation.

what about the front? the manuals call for this specific jack point thats part of the front sub-frame;

I have also been hesitant to the front via the subframe because i been reading ppl on forums bending their front subframe... have you ever seen it happen in your experience? or is this another internet myth hear-say that i can ignore?

i m trying to do an X tire rotation

thanks again!!! stay dirty!!!

[EricTheCarGuy]

I use the tie down hooks in the front. These are as solid as you get on a uni-body car, there is one on each side, look for the metal with the holes in it, where they tie the car down on a tow truck or on a transport trailer. I've been using these points for years without indecent. Perhaps I should do a video on this at some point this isn't the first time I've had this question posed.

[ilovetotones1]

lol i burnt the living snot out of myself when i was installing my new exhaust :D well worth it

[EricTheCarGuy]

Chicks really dig battle scars.

[ilovetotones1]

lol too bad i had to feel the burn

[EricTheCarGuy]

No pain, no gain.

[ilovetotones1]

lol Hey man that only applies when your working out or playing a contact sport!

[daniells71]

Ah yeah... I'll stick to shop remedies that don't involve osama's diving tanks in the mix lol. I might inadvertedly end up showing my neighborhood why it is really called a blow torch.

[EricTheCarGuy]

Perhaps but you have to admit it would be a heck of a light show.

[daniells71]

lol + a free BBQ. When I get the space I'll get one. BTW thanks for the videos. I am a tech myself, love your vids, and they are always spot on. great work!

[EricTheCarGuy]

For me there is nothing better than getting comments like this, thanks for that.

[bigblockmustang]

Hey Eric!

Les

[EricTheCarGuy]

Hey Les.

[falconsfan720]

ur tip has smegma

[EricTheCarGuy]

Indeed.

[1elAguila]

Great video

thanks

[markyanko]

eric liked the video but u said not to put the flame towards the gas tank but yet u did. wondering if u noticed

[EricTheCarGuy]

Your killing me you know that.

[Michiganborn1969]

I used to like to play with fire untill one summer of 1976 when I was 7 visiting my grandparents farm near central Michigan I got caught trying to burn down the out house (it was a very old farm) and I found myself on the buisness end of a leather belt lmao. My uncles then dubbed me the little turd burner lmfao.

[EricTheCarGuy]

lol

[Kuwaiti27]

Cool huh?

Definitely Cool,,,,

[jwed6]

I think its funny how I just did exhaust work last night and i get to wake up with this video...great one now off to see part two.

[EricTheCarGuy]

I watch you when you sleep.

[terhhh87]

Hey Eric. One thing you forgot to mention. Lot´s of people use anti stuck or rust away products in aerosol form. Spray oils and cleaners. And then use heating on the same spot. This is a BIG NO NO. As the cleaners and oils can turn in to gasses and harm your health. So please people be aware of the the safety when using cleaning products and read the product safety sticker.

[terhhh87]

Example brake cleaner for cleaning a spot then heating the same spot.

[Spiegel420]

the valve adjusment video saved me the most money so far. Stay dirty!

[Spiegel420]

You forgot you outro man!!!!

[EricTheCarGuy]

It's not the end of the video, see part 2.

[mrexecutive1]

Nice video ,very educational. The thing that set apart your videos from other car repair videos on youtube, is your video editing. The panning and switching is fast and to the point!

[EricTheCarGuy]

Thanks for that comment, glad you liked the video.

[Spiegel420]

You're still a badass

[EricTheCarGuy]

Maybe, or maybe I'm just a good editor.