Just blow the crap out of them they think they can take the us... They're the size of california... They have no chance Strike First and Strike Fast and it will be done...
Its fucking hilarious how unimportant Citizens from other countries act toward Americans. It is proof of jealousy that America is better then your country. You guys will act that way your whole life even after this comment and it will ruin you. Other countries are on our side, but the unimportant citizens of those countries are always on the evil side and that is what creates evil presidents like pyongyang. You guys don't even see it. At least our allied governments are with us for right now.
Guess what we can and will police the world where and whenever we want and there is nothing you guys can do about it LOL. You guys are fucking jealous LOL!!!!!!! So keep on bitching LOL!!
guess what its funny u should say that coz i remember a bunch of arabs wid box cutters fuckd u up LOL and u are being owned by afghan farmers and iraqis ,no wonder 70 percent of the world hates u and im jelous lol what a joke
Yeah ok what ever man, you would say what ever is at the top of your head, because you are so pissed off right now LOL you only wish, stop making shit up and get out of dream mode.
Jesus H people! Other countries always want to think against the world power all out of jealously. If American never existed you guys would find someone else to be mad at. You guys can think what you want because its not true and they were surrendering after the bomb which we didn't know was going to be that big. If we want to test it we would have tested it somewhere else, because we definitely had a lot more where those came from after seeing how big it was. Who gives a shit it was the past!
that is what you get for having a lack of real leadership in the white house. N.Korea and Iran are thumbing their noses at the world because they know Obama is impotent and incompetent.
no , north korea is acting cheeky because for all these years they have been getting everything they want unconditionaly and iran is because of america's arrogence,belive me i was born in iran i know
you may have been born in iran, but that is not why iran is acting out. iran wants power and respect. america's so-called arrogance is a perfect excuse to rally the muslim base around the excesses in the west. iran's leadership has to convince iran's population that it is morally right to have less and live a lower standard of living - because iran's society is not progressing. make the u.s. the bad guy - and you get the platform to justify the will of the mullahs (the 12th immam?)
there are 3 reasons iran hates america i will tell u
1. americas support for saddam during the war
2.the c.i.a. overthrowing mossadegh possibly irans first and only truly democratic leader the people were happy with
3.sanctions and accusations against iran if somebody from the american government sat down with a iranian diplomat for once the world would be a different place
oh, I guess the whole religious thing has nothing to do with it?
1. the U.S. just overthrew Saddam, and now he is dead.
2. oil, oil, oil - oil makes the world go 'round. in the '50's, developed countries made decisions and tactical moves to secure the most oil they could for their countries. Iran just happened to be blessed (or cursed) with a shit-load of it.
3. Khomeini is a power-hungry ego-maniac
4. You cannot negotiate with a nation whose leaders believe in the return of 12th Imam
in iran 70 percent of 70 million people are under the age of 30 and the ultra religious people are mostly the older generation wich are in government the general people of iran dont relly give a shit about the government ,and america as usual demonizes it
So what? Bush had a very low job-approval rating, yet Iranians hate America.
It doesn't matter what the Iranian 'street' thinks - just like it doesn't matter what the Chinese 'street' thinks, or the 'American' street thinks. What matters is what the govt does - and the Iranian govt is run by a freakin' lunatic mad man who is handing out potatoes to try to get re-elected. You see, I view Iranians as being arrogant - until they escape from Iran and come here for a better life and future.
as long as that type of leadership is in power in Iran, however it got there, that is what matters most. the iranian people don't show the courage to rise up and do anything about their supposed dislike of the current govt. that is why it doesn't matter what the 'street' thinks.
umm hve u ever been to iran? do u have any idea how many undercover people there is that will arrest u on the spot,and the worst is these religious bastards called basijis they just walk around randomly beating people who disagree with them thats y no one in iran speaks out
again, I will go back to my original point - which you apparently missed - that is that it doesn't matter what the Iranian 'street' thinks. If they aren't able to do anything to change it, then it is what the govt does that matters (unless there is another revolution). I am sure that the German 'street' wasn't all for killing all of the Jews and invading the world - however, that didn't matter in the least when it was all said and done.
well maybe u can tell this to your fellow americans because all i ever see on youtube comments are iranians are bloodthirsty terrorists,you are probably the only person i have had a decent convo with and your oviously intellectual :)
oh, i think much of what is written here is designed to get a rise out of people who are trying to be serious. I would take much of that with a 'grain of salt'.
US always sit down with Iranian diplomats all the time. Most of the time people don't hear about it. There is a lot of things going on that citizens don't know about. All the time diplomats come in and out from every country.
not direct 1 on 1 they sit down in 5 party talks and so on, igarantee u that if sumbody from the iranian government and the american government sat down publicly things will change
Sanctions on North Korea will come from the nearly all of free world, and possibly China also. Nobody wants this regime possessing nuclear weapons -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
all you people are arguing about WW2when WW3is coming regardless of what any country says or does it will happen and my country (USA) is too broke to prevent any invasions of high scale
Your right, if Iran had them they would use them. No Iraqi oil is being piped into Israel, it is being refined in Iraq. Put a little more work into your lies, one day you may be the head of ACORN
Japan wanted to surrender before that but USA didnt want to listen because they wanted to test the bomb.
It's known fact that Japanese tried to get trough to USA trough Soviet Union and that USA had cracked Japanese communication and knew exactly what was going on.
They just wanted to try two nukes in to a civilian targets. They could have tried some military but then no civilian would have died..
hiroshima and nagasaki were the most military-industrial target options for use of a nuclear weapon.
it was clear that the japanese were going to be ordered to fight to the last man, and president truman wasn't willing to risk american lives to achieve victory.
given the history during the war, the japanese attacked the US without even declaring war--how would your nation deal with that enemy???
But they could have chosen a military target over civilian.
This is like Bin Laden attacking the WTC. He could have chosen an embassy or military base(witch he did before) and not attack a civilians.. You dont see me supporting Bin laden and 911 but you expect me to support Hiroshima and Nagasaki that killed more many civilians then 911
look it's clear that you yourself need to do a little brushing up on your WWII history--and it's nothing like those saudis ramming planes into the WTC!!!
all i have to say is what's so great about finland that you can sit on your little cloud of judgment and rewrite history?
Just because I'm not from US doesnt mean I cant have opinion about the morality of usage of Nuclear bomb to a civilian target.
And I think I know more about WW2 then you do. Been reading about ww2 past 10 years. Now you can act like you were the only country involved in WW2 and act like you were the "good" guys and did nothing wrong. That's fine by me but dont try to discredit me by saying I dont know about WW2.
So that was moral way to go and blow civilian targets?
because surrender and peace are the same shit.
If Japan had surrendered they would be in this same sitsuation they are now and if they had gotten peace treaty to pass then they would be exactly in the same spot they are now.
So what did two nuclear bombs to civilian targets accive that couldnt be done any other means?
Civilian targets? Did you ever read about Japanese war crimes during WW2?
Surrender and peace are not the same things, peace comes sans conditions while surrender brings with it conditions.
Japan did surrender but had they been allowed to walk away after having sued for peace unscathed then they would have retained their military and war making capability.
Invasion of Honshu, Kyushu, Hokkaido, Kyoto would have been a bloody mess with even more killed then both bombs combined.
FIrst of all I dont support what Japan did to Koreans. Just like I dont support what Germans did to jews or Israel does to Palestine. Just like I dont support the way US attacked Vietnam.
Now that's said you probably understand my position towards those two bombings.
I'm a pasifist when it comes to wars and there for all civilian targets even if it was Al Qaida towards US or US soldiers taking Iraqis lives and trowing then to camps with out trial and with out proof and torture them.
Assumptions about what? An amphibian invasion of Japan's main islands? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea what kind of carnage that would have caused? How could invading the major Islands be done in a single battle? They would have to have gone from Island to Island in a bloody massacre that would have costs hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and made the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like a t-party. Truman wasn't going to waste American soldiers needlessly.
The us would not need to invade japan at all, its navy was decimated and its air force was reduced to scrap metal, all you had to do is bomb their factories and apply naval blockades, Japanese is a volcanic island they don't have any natural resources to wage war across oceans ,like oil steel iron or even aluminum for planes.
In any normal history book. Go to a library and maybe and read.
And NO! there were much better military targets then Hiroshima or Nagasaki... US military leaders wanted Japanese Civilians to die so they choose a city..
Also, look no further than the attempted coup which took place once the Emperor had in fact decided that surrender was necessary (though he never actually calls it that directly) as evidence of the deep division within the Japanese government.
Well if you knew about the Emperor then you knew that he didnt even know everything about the war but was being manipulated by his subordinates and given wrong information all the time.
Because the Emperor was unaware of what happend outside all he could rely was his subordinates.
foreigners are so quick to try to claim ignorance..."you should read.." what an ass
It's no secret that part of the Japanese government extended feelers about possibly surrendering. However, other parts of the government were adamantly against surrendering and were prepared to fight to the death. Thus the government remained divided on what to do, even after attack on Hiroshima.
what if two nukes went off in New york city and Washington? would you condem? or would you justify? You should know you are in two wars so if taliban was to destroy 2 of your cities would accept it as act of war or terrorist act?
times have changed, and the position for that question is obviously a little more difficult to take.
concerning WWII, yes the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki are TOTALLY justified, not to sound too much like a monster, which is clearly what you're after. what it came down to for president truman was japanese lives or american lives--so industrial centers were picked as targets so as to stop the ability to make war--it's not like little boy and fat man struck the quiet countryside.
for someone who studied WWII for "ten years" you sure aren't one for standard debate--you're the one constantly submitting cherry picked facts whereas you have inserted none, but opinions.
you're argument has been "the bombs weren't justified" but you don't list any other suitable targets.you say "japanese tried to surrender" but give nothing to back up the US 'cover up'
so yeah, "what an ass." either learn to present facts or everyone is going you're an ass
Good job North Korea! Do what you have to do....focus more on developing more nuclear weapons and missile technologies to protect your country, secondly, sell these technologies/weapons to get much needed financial resources to develop your economy and help your people. Just IGNORE the nazi war criminal u.s of ameriKKKa dog barking.
You are going to have to deal with us for a long long long time, we are the last world power no one is going to be world power after us. If America is going to go down its taking the whole world with them. Kind of funny how other countries think we are brainwashed when other countries sound more branwashed then they say we are. You guys sit in your houses and make up lies and beleive them. Its not americas media that lies. Other countries are America's lying media. Lying out of jealousy!
I am so sick of this. Sick of the stupid fucking politics, sick of the fucking games EVERY world leader plays with the population, sick of the willful ignorance all across the planet, sick of arrogance of humanity, sick of the manipulation.
I find the world disgusting now, a taste that is impossible to wash out of my mouth and that is with me every where I go. Just fucking end it already. Nuke my half of the United States and let the chips fall where they may.
us, russia, and all of them bad ass's should just nuke north korea and iran before anything bad happens the longer u wait the worse it will be when it officially happens
Good job North Korea! Do what you have to do....focus more on developing more nuclear weapons and missile technologies to protect your country, secondly, sell these technologies/weapons to get much needed financial resources to develop your economy and help your people. Just IGNORE the nazi war criminal u.s of ameriKKKa dog barking.
utube is fill with hatred and racism..This shows where the world is heading..So much for future generations. The world is filled with retards who can't except other ppl's views and beliefs.
Nothing will happen, a few sanctions and verbal condemnation, in two weeks it will be all over, just face it the U.S hasn't got the bottle for a war with N. Korea, because they simply fear them, they will get away with this for a long time to come unless there is military intervention.
The world need to face up to reality, less of the same old bullshit condemnation rhetoric/sanctions, and do something about it militarily.
Is it reasonable for the US to whine hysterically over a nuclear test conducted by a regime solidly in power at a time when it has completely destabilised Pakistan?
Why is the US so wanting to stop Iran when North Korea gets ignored and they have those nukes that could destroy whoever now? Its like the US just gives Israel, North Korea and Russia the okay to have them. I guess I can trust Russia (hope so). As for Israel, never! If the US stops sending Israel billions every year we just may see Israel's nukes heading over here (that is how much I trust Israel). I can understand Russia having a defense because the US has them too. Does China have nukes yet?
The next step will be sactions, like it always is, there will be no military confrontation, because the U.S hasn't got the bottle for it, they fear North Korea, and thats no secret.
They are throwing there weight, and the world can't do a damn thing about it. They will continue to do this because they simply can, No one has the BALLS to confront them militarily.
CONDEMNATION AND SANCTIONS, thats all they'll get..
another chance for the US Russia and China to work together and do the right thing, but will they no no no
we need piss ants like north korea to feed the ending lust for blood and ego.
after all we are not peasant farmers living under this insane regime, but we can sit back and make comments on things in far off places as if we really care? let loose the dogs of war seems to be all i see. what a lovely world we've created for ourself.
N. Korea has nukes????and test them??? : 0 ---Big Fuxin Deal. what about pakistans nucular facilities?? thats a fighting country, that should be a problem. N korea at least has the nuts to do what they want, i guess they want to be players too.... *****p.s and to all the american haters out there, eat a dick... hate the govt not the people.... : )
barflewk: I told you I don't care. We don't need american democracy aka american submission in our lands! Russia is going to restore our empire and usa is against it because it wants to keep unipolar world. Every country has its own culture, if North Koreans like this regime that's their choice not yours!
That's very true brother. We don't need the Americans guiding us like they want to, and have done with several other countries, they are angry towards us because; and only because, we will not sit around while they add us to their puppets...we have always gone our own way, and that is what they hate us for. If we did everything like they said, we would be on good terms, but now we have free will! Слава России!))))
barflewk: The world needs to be changed. North Korea could start doing it. Remember about our Crimea temporary occupied by you! After americans go home, you will be alone to deal with Russia!
This is a prime example that the only product out of the United Nations is a bunch of shit. The only thing that come out of the mouth of the deleagates is shit. shit nis what shit is.
You guys are very very sad...Hate breads nothing but more Hate. And what are you doing? But spreading hate all over the net.
if you Guys really wanna make a difference go out and Stand up for everyones rights...In A non-violent movement which iam about create her in Philadelphia and lets all join up and put heat on every government to co-exist in a more peaceful world....Thankyou.
USA is the ONLY COUNTRY which used nuclear attack against civillians. So, americans, better worry about your government, that someday some psycho will not push a button (American elite is full of psychoes)...
Of course, US media will use ANY opportunity to create "external threat" and to brainwash dumb americans.
And live in a nation that is 60 years behind, under a regime were brainwashed puppets have a head of state that is dead, and it's de facto ruler is creepy short man who lives the good life were his people are starving to death. and also I might add, the usa DON'T recognize. Like I in hell will support that shithole.
By the way, did anyone notice that the only states that do not have a central banking institution like US Federal Bank are North Korea, Iran, Cuba and a few others?
Now you know why the capitalists have created so much chaos in these place.
Iran already has them built except for a reliable supply of bomb-grade, fissile material. If Iran only wanted civilian nuclear power plants, Iran can buy such technology much more cheaply from France, etc. Israel is not supplied with nuclear warheads from the US, nor does Israel get any more Iraqi oil than it buys, like everyone else.
North Korea knows it can play the International community for fools. Iran, which does likewise, has now achieved its nuclear ambitions via North Korea. And, like Pakistan, North Korea enjoys western subsidies in the guise of international aid deemed essential to avert a collapse of the state, so that such states can conduct nuclear weapons and proliferation programmes. The principle of MAD is contingent upon a high degree of rational behaviour, which North Korea certainly does not demonstrate.
Just fuck North Korea up and remove them from the World Map.
stricklandpropane 2 years ago
Just blow the crap out of them they think they can take the us... They're the size of california... They have no chance Strike First and Strike Fast and it will be done...
KillerTuber32 2 years ago
maybe because we fucking hate you westerners and unlike your pussified people we are not afraid to use nukes:)
ryunkoon 2 years ago
fuck russia and US.Now that korea has the bomb we will never live in fear of either white imperialist nation again ahahaha!
ryunkoon 2 years ago
Its fucking hilarious how unimportant Citizens from other countries act toward Americans. It is proof of jealousy that America is better then your country. You guys will act that way your whole life even after this comment and it will ruin you. Other countries are on our side, but the unimportant citizens of those countries are always on the evil side and that is what creates evil presidents like pyongyang. You guys don't even see it. At least our allied governments are with us for right now.
logan500 2 years ago
no its because america thinks it can police the world and do watever it wants and everone has had enought
afshin021 2 years ago
Guess what we can and will police the world where and whenever we want and there is nothing you guys can do about it LOL. You guys are fucking jealous LOL!!!!!!! So keep on bitching LOL!!
logan500 2 years ago
guess what its funny u should say that coz i remember a bunch of arabs wid box cutters fuckd u up LOL and u are being owned by afghan farmers and iraqis ,no wonder 70 percent of the world hates u and im jelous lol what a joke
afshin021 2 years ago
Yeah ok what ever man, you would say what ever is at the top of your head, because you are so pissed off right now LOL you only wish, stop making shit up and get out of dream mode.
logan500 2 years ago
na u know its true ur just in denial and ur just arrogant ask anyone outside the u.s. nobody likes americans because of there arrogence
afshin021 2 years ago
Jesus H people! Other countries always want to think against the world power all out of jealously. If American never existed you guys would find someone else to be mad at. You guys can think what you want because its not true and they were surrendering after the bomb which we didn't know was going to be that big. If we want to test it we would have tested it somewhere else, because we definitely had a lot more where those came from after seeing how big it was. Who gives a shit it was the past!
logan500 2 years ago
North Korea was so intimidated by the community organizer they decided to launch a few more missiles.
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
that is what you get for having a lack of real leadership in the white house. N.Korea and Iran are thumbing their noses at the world because they know Obama is impotent and incompetent.
beauzackosta 2 years ago
no , north korea is acting cheeky because for all these years they have been getting everything they want unconditionaly and iran is because of america's arrogence,belive me i was born in iran i know
afshin021 2 years ago
You idiot.
petergriffen222002 2 years ago
no i think you are the un educated idiot here
afshin021 2 years ago
you may have been born in iran, but that is not why iran is acting out. iran wants power and respect. america's so-called arrogance is a perfect excuse to rally the muslim base around the excesses in the west. iran's leadership has to convince iran's population that it is morally right to have less and live a lower standard of living - because iran's society is not progressing. make the u.s. the bad guy - and you get the platform to justify the will of the mullahs (the 12th immam?)
beauzackosta 2 years ago
there are 3 reasons iran hates america i will tell u
1. americas support for saddam during the war
2.the c.i.a. overthrowing mossadegh possibly irans first and only truly democratic leader the people were happy with
3.sanctions and accusations against iran if somebody from the american government sat down with a iranian diplomat for once the world would be a different place
afshin021 2 years ago
oh, I guess the whole religious thing has nothing to do with it?
1. the U.S. just overthrew Saddam, and now he is dead.
2. oil, oil, oil - oil makes the world go 'round. in the '50's, developed countries made decisions and tactical moves to secure the most oil they could for their countries. Iran just happened to be blessed (or cursed) with a shit-load of it.
3. Khomeini is a power-hungry ego-maniac
4. You cannot negotiate with a nation whose leaders believe in the return of 12th Imam
beauzackosta 2 years ago
in iran 70 percent of 70 million people are under the age of 30 and the ultra religious people are mostly the older generation wich are in government the general people of iran dont relly give a shit about the government ,and america as usual demonizes it
afshin021 2 years ago
So what? Bush had a very low job-approval rating, yet Iranians hate America.
It doesn't matter what the Iranian 'street' thinks - just like it doesn't matter what the Chinese 'street' thinks, or the 'American' street thinks. What matters is what the govt does - and the Iranian govt is run by a freakin' lunatic mad man who is handing out potatoes to try to get re-elected. You see, I view Iranians as being arrogant - until they escape from Iran and come here for a better life and future.
beauzackosta 2 years ago
umm how can it not matter what the street thinks thats how the whole revelution happend and ahmadinejad didnt get ellected he got appointed
afshin021 2 years ago
as long as that type of leadership is in power in Iran, however it got there, that is what matters most. the iranian people don't show the courage to rise up and do anything about their supposed dislike of the current govt. that is why it doesn't matter what the 'street' thinks.
beauzackosta 2 years ago
umm hve u ever been to iran? do u have any idea how many undercover people there is that will arrest u on the spot,and the worst is these religious bastards called basijis they just walk around randomly beating people who disagree with them thats y no one in iran speaks out
afshin021 2 years ago
again, I will go back to my original point - which you apparently missed - that is that it doesn't matter what the Iranian 'street' thinks. If they aren't able to do anything to change it, then it is what the govt does that matters (unless there is another revolution). I am sure that the German 'street' wasn't all for killing all of the Jews and invading the world - however, that didn't matter in the least when it was all said and done.
beauzackosta 2 years ago
well maybe u can tell this to your fellow americans because all i ever see on youtube comments are iranians are bloodthirsty terrorists,you are probably the only person i have had a decent convo with and your oviously intellectual :)
afshin021 2 years ago
oh, i think much of what is written here is designed to get a rise out of people who are trying to be serious. I would take much of that with a 'grain of salt'.
beauzackosta 2 years ago
US always sit down with Iranian diplomats all the time. Most of the time people don't hear about it. There is a lot of things going on that citizens don't know about. All the time diplomats come in and out from every country.
logan500 2 years ago
not direct 1 on 1 they sit down in 5 party talks and so on, igarantee u that if sumbody from the iranian government and the american government sat down publicly things will change
afshin021 2 years ago
They do it all the time.
logan500 2 years ago
Sanctions on North Korea will come from the nearly all of free world, and possibly China also. Nobody wants this regime possessing nuclear weapons -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth
reg373 2 years ago
interesting...nukes will probably hit japan and us-east...
minatorus 2 years ago
all you people are arguing about WW2when WW3is coming regardless of what any country says or does it will happen and my country (USA) is too broke to prevent any invasions of high scale
sharebear421 2 years ago
Your right, if Iran had them they would use them. No Iraqi oil is being piped into Israel, it is being refined in Iraq. Put a little more work into your lies, one day you may be the head of ACORN
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
Hopefully Kim jong il has another deadly stroke before they lead us into WW3. Even N.Koreas closest ally, China, is openly opposed to the tests.
Carbonman27 2 years ago
if China was opposed you liberal moron do you think Korea would have it?
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
hey, I was just reading to you what I read iff the newspaper, bonehead.
Carbonman27 2 years ago
you should read.. It's well known that Japanese wanted to surrender but I guess they dont teach that in US schools system..
tkstka 2 years ago
They wanted to surrender after we nuked them, which we didnt think that bomb was going to be that big at that time.
logan500 2 years ago
Japan wanted to surrender before that but USA didnt want to listen because they wanted to test the bomb.
It's known fact that Japanese tried to get trough to USA trough Soviet Union and that USA had cracked Japanese communication and knew exactly what was going on.
They just wanted to try two nukes in to a civilian targets. They could have tried some military but then no civilian would have died..
tkstka 2 years ago
the only thing that forced Japan to the table was little boy and fat man
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
That's incorrect. Japan was trying to surrender two mounths before the first nuke was dropped.
USA intelligence knew about this and gave the information to higher authorities and they desided that they still wanted to go with the bomb.
tkstka 2 years ago
They could have chosen a military targets but they desided to attack Civilian targets instread.
tkstka 2 years ago
hiroshima and nagasaki were the most military-industrial target options for use of a nuclear weapon.
it was clear that the japanese were going to be ordered to fight to the last man, and president truman wasn't willing to risk american lives to achieve victory.
given the history during the war, the japanese attacked the US without even declaring war--how would your nation deal with that enemy???
scotthebruce 2 years ago 2
They did chose a military target, they were at war with Japan.
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
No shit sherlock..
But they could have chosen a military target over civilian.
This is like Bin Laden attacking the WTC. He could have chosen an embassy or military base(witch he did before) and not attack a civilians.. You dont see me supporting Bin laden and 911 but you expect me to support Hiroshima and Nagasaki that killed more many civilians then 911
tkstka 2 years ago
look it's clear that you yourself need to do a little brushing up on your WWII history--and it's nothing like those saudis ramming planes into the WTC!!!
all i have to say is what's so great about finland that you can sit on your little cloud of judgment and rewrite history?
scotthebruce 2 years ago
Yes what a comeback!
Whohoo!
Just because I'm not from US doesnt mean I cant have opinion about the morality of usage of Nuclear bomb to a civilian target.
And I think I know more about WW2 then you do. Been reading about ww2 past 10 years. Now you can act like you were the only country involved in WW2 and act like you were the "good" guys and did nothing wrong. That's fine by me but dont try to discredit me by saying I dont know about WW2.
OUT!--
tkstka 2 years ago
whatever tkstka. stay "out" for all i care.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
Then why attack my position when you obviously dont "care".
Yes, trying to weasel your way out of this.
tkstka 2 years ago
OMG i have better things to do than argue with a finnish prick who wants nothing to do this morning but insult americans.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
attack?
LOL good day
it's youtube--try not to take it soooo seriously.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
you can have the last word--i'm pretty sure that's all you're really after.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
No you're incorrect, Japan was trying to sue for peace not surrender.
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
So that was moral way to go and blow civilian targets?
because surrender and peace are the same shit.
If Japan had surrendered they would be in this same sitsuation they are now and if they had gotten peace treaty to pass then they would be exactly in the same spot they are now.
So what did two nuclear bombs to civilian targets accive that couldnt be done any other means?
tkstka 2 years ago
Civilian targets? Did you ever read about Japanese war crimes during WW2?
Surrender and peace are not the same things, peace comes sans conditions while surrender brings with it conditions.
Japan did surrender but had they been allowed to walk away after having sued for peace unscathed then they would have retained their military and war making capability.
Invasion of Honshu, Kyushu, Hokkaido, Kyoto would have been a bloody mess with even more killed then both bombs combined.
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
FIrst of all I dont support what Japan did to Koreans. Just like I dont support what Germans did to jews or Israel does to Palestine. Just like I dont support the way US attacked Vietnam.
Now that's said you probably understand my position towards those two bombings.
I'm a pasifist when it comes to wars and there for all civilian targets even if it was Al Qaida towards US or US soldiers taking Iraqis lives and trowing then to camps with out trial and with out proof and torture them.
tkstka 2 years ago
is out of the question.
tkstka 2 years ago
You make assumptions about single battles that didnt even happen.. That being said I rest my case.
tkstka 2 years ago
Assumptions about what? An amphibian invasion of Japan's main islands? Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea what kind of carnage that would have caused? How could invading the major Islands be done in a single battle? They would have to have gone from Island to Island in a bloody massacre that would have costs hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and made the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki look like a t-party. Truman wasn't going to waste American soldiers needlessly.
StinkingHombre 2 years ago
The us would not need to invade japan at all, its navy was decimated and its air force was reduced to scrap metal, all you had to do is bomb their factories and apply naval blockades, Japanese is a volcanic island they don't have any natural resources to wage war across oceans ,like oil steel iron or even aluminum for planes.
DasSteppenwolf 2 years ago
where do you get your "history?"
scotthebruce 2 years ago
In any normal history book. Go to a library and maybe and read.
And NO! there were much better military targets then Hiroshima or Nagasaki... US military leaders wanted Japanese Civilians to die so they choose a city..
tkstka 2 years ago
Also, look no further than the attempted coup which took place once the Emperor had in fact decided that surrender was necessary (though he never actually calls it that directly) as evidence of the deep division within the Japanese government.
you try reading
scotthebruce 2 years ago
Well if you knew about the Emperor then you knew that he didnt even know everything about the war but was being manipulated by his subordinates and given wrong information all the time.
Because the Emperor was unaware of what happend outside all he could rely was his subordinates.
tkstka 2 years ago
you dont try to surrender moron, you do it, and they did, just as quick as two cities were destroyed.
kreiglloyd2001 2 years ago
foreigners are so quick to try to claim ignorance..."you should read.." what an ass
It's no secret that part of the Japanese government extended feelers about possibly surrendering. However, other parts of the government were adamantly against surrendering and were prepared to fight to the death. Thus the government remained divided on what to do, even after attack on Hiroshima.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
But was nuking two majour cities justified?
what if two nukes went off in New york city and Washington? would you condem? or would you justify? You should know you are in two wars so if taliban was to destroy 2 of your cities would accept it as act of war or terrorist act?
tkstka 2 years ago
times have changed, and the position for that question is obviously a little more difficult to take.
concerning WWII, yes the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki are TOTALLY justified, not to sound too much like a monster, which is clearly what you're after. what it came down to for president truman was japanese lives or american lives--so industrial centers were picked as targets so as to stop the ability to make war--it's not like little boy and fat man struck the quiet countryside.
scotthebruce 2 years ago
"What an ass"?
well you obviously have problems with somebody having opinion on the issue.. I think that's being an ass.
but HEY what do I know I'm just foreigner.
BTW you try to pick certain parts of WW2 history and justify US actions, so you wouldnt feel bad about your country's history. That's cowardly.
The dropping of those bombs were not justified.
and you trying to cherrypick your way out of that is pathetic. OUT--
tkstka 2 years ago
certain parts??? LOL
for someone who studied WWII for "ten years" you sure aren't one for standard debate--you're the one constantly submitting cherry picked facts whereas you have inserted none, but opinions.
you're argument has been "the bombs weren't justified" but you don't list any other suitable targets.you say "japanese tried to surrender" but give nothing to back up the US 'cover up'
so yeah, "what an ass." either learn to present facts or everyone is going you're an ass
scotthebruce 2 years ago
Well this is like trying to argue against creationist.
I wont even try to site books and articles because there are so many. IF you really are intrested in facts then you'll check them out by yourself.
I wont try to argue about stuff that people write books about in a youtube comment section.
tkstka 2 years ago
WarGames - Joshua Simulations
/watch?v=eeOHEU7Ykyg
There will be no winner.
T
MISTAFIEDSTORIEZ 2 years ago
Good job North Korea! Do what you have to do....focus more on developing more nuclear weapons and missile technologies to protect your country, secondly, sell these technologies/weapons to get much needed financial resources to develop your economy and help your people. Just IGNORE the nazi war criminal u.s of ameriKKKa dog barking.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 2 years ago
Good-bye America, оо оо o o
To me your grated jeans became too small
Good-bye America, оо оо o o
I am long learnt , to love, your forbidden fruits.
Good-bye America, оо оо o o
I sing to you, America, good-bye... La La La La... Laaa Laaa
dancecosmic 2 years ago
You are going to have to deal with us for a long long long time, we are the last world power no one is going to be world power after us. If America is going to go down its taking the whole world with them. Kind of funny how other countries think we are brainwashed when other countries sound more branwashed then they say we are. You guys sit in your houses and make up lies and beleive them. Its not americas media that lies. Other countries are America's lying media. Lying out of jealousy!
logan500 2 years ago
can someone just nukes america plz? so we can have peace on this planet
hcn9 2 years ago
They quite happily their thugs to kill 1 million Iraqis & give them medals too...
North Korea should not make the same mistake as Iraq.
Get your nukes ready & strike the American snake...
Termin888 2 years ago
I am so sick of this. Sick of the stupid fucking politics, sick of the fucking games EVERY world leader plays with the population, sick of the willful ignorance all across the planet, sick of arrogance of humanity, sick of the manipulation.
I find the world disgusting now, a taste that is impossible to wash out of my mouth and that is with me every where I go. Just fucking end it already. Nuke my half of the United States and let the chips fall where they may.
17Revolution76 2 years ago
us, russia, and all of them bad ass's should just nuke north korea and iran before anything bad happens the longer u wait the worse it will be when it officially happens
Evanz93noipbiz 2 years ago
when are people and nations gonna learn,someday we may be forced to learn,take of that what u will.
069gypsy 2 years ago
Good job North Korea! Do what you have to do....focus more on developing more nuclear weapons and missile technologies to protect your country, secondly, sell these technologies/weapons to get much needed financial resources to develop your economy and help your people. Just IGNORE the nazi war criminal u.s of ameriKKKa dog barking.
BruceLeeKickYoAss4 2 years ago
lol anthony..they sure the fuck did
neVermorph 2 years ago
utube is fill with hatred and racism..This shows where the world is heading..So much for future generations. The world is filled with retards who can't except other ppl's views and beliefs.
neVermorph 2 years ago 2
It's only bad for you crackers!
You've fucked around the world for so looong, you even nuked 2 cities... You're the ONLY one to do that!!??
And now that your foes got your technological might, you're scared!
But Amerikkka is going to get bombed the fuck out! no doubt...and I can't wait!
Fuck this hellHole, home of faggots, devils and Murdering ass Children of perdition!
Mozadek 2 years ago
How many undisclosed nuclear warheads is ISRAEL stockpiling?
But of course no-one is mentioning that. Neocon hypocrisy as usual.
MarshallKutuzov 2 years ago
and practically nothing can be done against NK. UN already probed all possible sanctions. and the outcome?
mikkitiny 2 years ago
brave north korea
say with me fuck usa
sibawi1 2 years ago 2
Nothing will happen, a few sanctions and verbal condemnation, in two weeks it will be all over, just face it the U.S hasn't got the bottle for a war with N. Korea, because they simply fear them, they will get away with this for a long time to come unless there is military intervention.
The world need to face up to reality, less of the same old bullshit condemnation rhetoric/sanctions, and do something about it militarily.
Next news story please, this one is boring me.
kivster 2 years ago
Is it reasonable for the US to whine hysterically over a nuclear test conducted by a regime solidly in power at a time when it has completely destabilised Pakistan?
seseljsrs 2 years ago
Why is the US so wanting to stop Iran when North Korea gets ignored and they have those nukes that could destroy whoever now? Its like the US just gives Israel, North Korea and Russia the okay to have them. I guess I can trust Russia (hope so). As for Israel, never! If the US stops sending Israel billions every year we just may see Israel's nukes heading over here (that is how much I trust Israel). I can understand Russia having a defense because the US has them too. Does China have nukes yet?
starlight1946 2 years ago
United Shits and UN can do all the condemnation
they want, at the end they will not do anything about it
LOL
Remember the Korean War ? The Yanks already
learned their lessons losing from the north koreans
Let North Korea make as many nuclear weapons
they want , why should they listen to hypocrites like
UN and United Shits of AmUrica ??
:))
RussianDefender100 2 years ago
How far from Los Alamos did Israel conduct its nuclear tests?
seseljsrs 2 years ago
The next step will be sactions, like it always is, there will be no military confrontation, because the U.S hasn't got the bottle for it, they fear North Korea, and thats no secret.
They are throwing there weight, and the world can't do a damn thing about it. They will continue to do this because they simply can, No one has the BALLS to confront them militarily.
CONDEMNATION AND SANCTIONS, thats all they'll get..
kivster 2 years ago
another chance for the US Russia and China to work together and do the right thing, but will they no no no
we need piss ants like north korea to feed the ending lust for blood and ego.
after all we are not peasant farmers living under this insane regime, but we can sit back and make comments on things in far off places as if we really care? let loose the dogs of war seems to be all i see. what a lovely world we've created for ourself.
jimmy
jamesappleridge 2 years ago
nuclear weapons- the greatest invention of all time, just imagine all of the wars and conflicts they have prevented
motherussia123 2 years ago
"nuclear weapons- the greatest invention of all time, just imagine all of the wars and conflicts they have prevented"
But after Hiroshima and Nagasaki nobody should use them again. Nuclear weapons are some bad serious shit and world must prevent a nuclear holocaust.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
Iran and North Korea can create as many nuclear weapons as they want, Do Not listen to Hypocrites
like UN and United Shits of AmUrica
AmUrica cannot even criticise their own nuclear made weapons and support nuclear wepons for IsraHell
so why should a sovereign country listen to these hypocrites ?
RussianDefender100 2 years ago 2
we are talking about a nation your "AmUrica" doesn't recognize.
TheInfamousTroll 2 years ago
N. Korea has nukes????and test them??? : 0 ---Big Fuxin Deal. what about pakistans nucular facilities?? thats a fighting country, that should be a problem. N korea at least has the nuts to do what they want, i guess they want to be players too.... *****p.s and to all the american haters out there, eat a dick... hate the govt not the people.... : )
grasshutz 2 years ago
barflewk: I told you I don't care. We don't need american democracy aka american submission in our lands! Russia is going to restore our empire and usa is against it because it wants to keep unipolar world. Every country has its own culture, if North Koreans like this regime that's their choice not yours!
Darki881 2 years ago
That's very true brother. We don't need the Americans guiding us like they want to, and have done with several other countries, they are angry towards us because; and only because, we will not sit around while they add us to their puppets...we have always gone our own way, and that is what they hate us for. If we did everything like they said, we would be on good terms, but now we have free will! Слава России!))))
russianvid99 2 years ago
Any update on whether the US actually recognises Israel as having nukes?
seseljsrs 2 years ago
barflewk: The world needs to be changed. North Korea could start doing it. Remember about our Crimea temporary occupied by you! After americans go home, you will be alone to deal with Russia!
Darki881 2 years ago
barflewk: You know what? I don't care if he is tyrant or not but they can help Russia to finish with american hegemony in our lands!
Darki881 2 years ago
Hideki Tōjō one of the bigest bastards in history. No wonder koreans hate the japanese.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
This is a prime example that the only product out of the United Nations is a bunch of shit. The only thing that come out of the mouth of the deleagates is shit. shit nis what shit is.
robertus911 2 years ago
Japan already paid for Nanking Massacre and other crimes when americans nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
It looks like Kim Jong is still pretty angry.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
hhehehehe japanese are scared that the koreans want a payback for the crimes the Empire of Japan did in Korea during WW2.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
You guys are very very sad...Hate breads nothing but more Hate. And what are you doing? But spreading hate all over the net.
if you Guys really wanna make a difference go out and Stand up for everyones rights...In A non-violent movement which iam about create her in Philadelphia and lets all join up and put heat on every government to co-exist in a more peaceful world....Thankyou.
Empire100 2 years ago
USA is the ONLY COUNTRY which used nuclear attack against civillians. So, americans, better worry about your government, that someday some psycho will not push a button (American elite is full of psychoes)...
Of course, US media will use ANY opportunity to create "external threat" and to brainwash dumb americans.
igorvasilevsky 2 years ago 3
and this is from a user who's country was in a regime who killed more people than ALL of their previous wars combined.
TheInfamousTroll 2 years ago
barflewk: since usa supports our enemies why should I be against North Korea?!
I repeat good job, North Korea!
Darki881 2 years ago 2
And live in a nation that is 60 years behind, under a regime were brainwashed puppets have a head of state that is dead, and it's de facto ruler is creepy short man who lives the good life were his people are starving to death. and also I might add, the usa DON'T recognize. Like I in hell will support that shithole.
TheInfamousTroll 2 years ago
Good job, North Korea!
Darki881 2 years ago
israel are peacemakers? AHAHAHA! hitler shouldve wiped out all u dirty jews when he had the chance
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FreedomForMankind 2 years ago
this reporter sounds pretty happy about this ,.. O_O
LeSPauldude45 2 years ago
he's most definetely not
iarosh69 2 years ago
sry, i meant the women
LeSPauldude45 2 years ago
What did Palestine have to do with 9/11? You Jews are so transparent..
andy7666 2 years ago 2
North Korea,Russia and China are Terrorists ???
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
The Only Terrorist here is te United Shits of AmUrica
with all the disgusting filth that you ave done to
Vietnam,Laos,Cambodia,Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan,Korea
and killing millions of civilians should I go on ?
RussianDefender100 2 years ago 3
CIA jackals should have already infiltrated the North...
That's what happened to Iran and Venezuela.
xGRUx 2 years ago
Kim Jong IL, You are my hero.
Any brave world leader who challenges the corrupt UN like that has my props.
Long Live the IL
TouchofDRainbow 2 years ago
Congrats North Korea!
By the way, did anyone notice that the only states that do not have a central banking institution like US Federal Bank are North Korea, Iran, Cuba and a few others?
Now you know why the capitalists have created so much chaos in these place.
himalayanspirit 2 years ago
dog eating, nuke testing assholes.
suckanorange 2 years ago
Iran already has them built except for a reliable supply of bomb-grade, fissile material. If Iran only wanted civilian nuclear power plants, Iran can buy such technology much more cheaply from France, etc. Israel is not supplied with nuclear warheads from the US, nor does Israel get any more Iraqi oil than it buys, like everyone else.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
The American Soviet Union bombed Europe nuclear charges.
dancecosmic 2 years ago
Well done North Korea they need nukes for defence just as UK need them
davehighbury 2 years ago
Not to fret, just apease them just like Hitler. The world will do what Obama says. Just give another Bailout. They are to big and bad to FUCK with..
2setufree 2 years ago
its ok NUKES are just big bottle rockets its not like they give off massive RADIATION Clouds or anything.....
Recepression 2 years ago
North Korea knows it can play the International community for fools. Iran, which does likewise, has now achieved its nuclear ambitions via North Korea. And, like Pakistan, North Korea enjoys western subsidies in the guise of international aid deemed essential to avert a collapse of the state, so that such states can conduct nuclear weapons and proliferation programmes. The principle of MAD is contingent upon a high degree of rational behaviour, which North Korea certainly does not demonstrate.
charlessmyth 2 years ago
If anyone is allowed it then everyone should be allowed them. M.A.D.
lemonlees 2 years ago 2
i agreed. M.A.D. works.
KhmerD0g 2 years ago
Good for them.
enuvune 2 years ago