The way you guys think and talk reminds me very much of the writings of Wilhelm Reich. I also urge you to read Leonard Glick's book "Marked In Your Flesh."
Altho I am totally opposed to RIC, I reserve judgement about some of the things you say. But I would love to meet you in order to have a long and fruitful conversation.
You guys appreciate that American RIC is not a medical issue, but a great puzzle in the social psychology of American sexuality. Women free spirits know the most, BTW.
all these religious nutheads need to stop calling it circumcision. Its mutilation not only for girls but boys too.
As for those who say "it looks better that way", you're fucking sick!!
I was unfortunately circumcised and need foreskin restoration. If I had a son and someone even suggested circumcision, I would knock his teeth out. Circumcision is a form of child molestation.
@ seaco2000, mind there are cases where it is necessary medically to remove the for-skin,
in example: when a baby or child has difficulty moving the forskin over the glans which result in difficulty with urinating.
myself being one of them.
I think people are forgetting this and are more mad over the American fed that had come to rise during the years, or the decision being based on religious beliefs.
@SirDeepfry Babies and children are supposed to have immobile foreskin. Phimosis and paraphimosis are two of the most over-diagnosed conditions. When they are correctly diagnosed, it is often the result of mishandling of the penis. Even in those situations, circumcision is not medically necessary.
There is a procedure now to restore foreskin... If you can stretch the left-over skin into a foreskin, you also can stretch a phimosis into a normal functioning one.
@SirDeepfry , you know, it is interesting that when other body parts gets infected, cutting it off is a last resort, they try to fight and cure the infection. But when the foreskin have trouble, the first thing you hear is circumcision.
This makes sense, I'm circumcised and I have to masturbate rather violently to get any feeling, this creates an association of sex with violence and takes away the sensitivity of the act, without even considering the violence done against the child during the actual surgery.
This is beautifully said!!! All forms of Circumcision is Evil & Retarded, it's against Human Rights and it should go extinct! Is god not perfect?! If god wanted this, why doesn't he come down to earth and do the procedure himself to people! Ignorant fearing control-freaks are the ones who invented this evil, to un-educate & punish the whole human race for retarded & evil reasons!! Foreskins get used for things like expensive Cosmetics!!
I prefer our side would use science over magical tantra hippy bullshit.
They had their history wrong too. the periah began as an attempt to prevent Jews from partially restoring their foreskins.
Also, South America is the most violent continent, so let's not use the violence argument until we have evidence.
I know you'll probably down rate this comment, but I'm trying to help get rid of this harmful practice.I've convinced a few pregnant women not to do it.
what? South America is NOT the most violent continent what are you talking about????? LOL I do agree with the periah began as an attempt to prevent the Jewish from restoring but I do NOT agree that South America is the most violent continent. I come from there and I have to tell you that people in my country are kinder and friendlier than USA.
While I don't think it's "magical tantra hippy bullshit," I do agree we should stick to straightforward, simple information when dealing with this topic. I heard these guys just became intactivists like 1 day before the march. They get it and are coming from their hearts but it takes time to learn how to best communicate with the average American. I may believe some of what they say is true, but I wouldn't talk that way to someone else, unless I knew them very well.
Jason and Zachary have obviously been studying this issue for some time and have a very good grasp on the facts. With the paper cut comment they were pointing out that Jewish circumcision used to be far less radical in pre-Hellenic times than it is today. The paper cut analogy was off, but they are learning as we all are, with a very difficult and painful subject.
I don't wish to censor anyone speaking out against this form of child abuse; please help each other fine tune the arguments.
Well I realized the spiritual and sensual damage done by circumcision in one day, even though it took me longer to read all the studies and other things people had written. I understood on a gut level. I agree with Bonobo, we're here to help each other learn, not insult other people's way of expressing themselves. Some Jews do make a tiny cut in the foreskin, on the surface or at the tip. In this case, nothing is removed--a drop of blood is taken for a covenant.
For the record, I don't agree with nicking the genitals of children at all, but I did want to point out that it's accepted in Judaism as a circumcision. I certainly think that it's less damaging ultimately, than a radical amputation of the foreskin.
Well, it is also somewhat 'violent' to the women/on the female's side when she experiences sex with a circumcised male. As a female, I have mostly felt pain during sex with circumcised males. Not so with the intact one.
So I suppose, this is another infliction of violence or pain from circumcision. It really hurts us all.
I agree. It's hard to feel all those sacred/ecstatic feelings with a circumcised male, so as a woman, I also felt aggression and frustration as a result of abrasive and abnormal sex. This created enormous tension in my relationship. And also, it's depressing when a guy can't feel the amount of sexual intensity/intricacy you can because someone chopped off part of his penis without his consent. I'd also be sad as a man with a woman in the same condition. Great video, guys!
Ladies, thank you for writing from the heart about something so intensely personal. Circumcised men and prospective mothers need to hear you. If circumcision seriously reduces the ability of some woman to experience sexual pleasure, that is an utterly devastating indictment of the practice.
Patricia Robinet in Eugene OR is thinking of writing a short book on this topic. She too does fine with intact men, and cannot derive any pleasure from a circumcised one.
The way you guys think and talk reminds me very much of the writings of Wilhelm Reich. I also urge you to read Leonard Glick's book "Marked In Your Flesh."
Altho I am totally opposed to RIC, I reserve judgement about some of the things you say. But I would love to meet you in order to have a long and fruitful conversation.
You guys appreciate that American RIC is not a medical issue, but a great puzzle in the social psychology of American sexuality. Women free spirits know the most, BTW.
alnot01 1 year ago
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evolution gave us a foreskin for a reason
all these religious nutheads need to stop calling it circumcision. Its mutilation not only for girls but boys too.
As for those who say "it looks better that way", you're fucking sick!!
I was unfortunately circumcised and need foreskin restoration. If I had a son and someone even suggested circumcision, I would knock his teeth out. Circumcision is a form of child molestation.
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
@ seaco2000, mind there are cases where it is necessary medically to remove the for-skin,
in example: when a baby or child has difficulty moving the forskin over the glans which result in difficulty with urinating.
myself being one of them.
I think people are forgetting this and are more mad over the American fed that had come to rise during the years, or the decision being based on religious beliefs.
SirDeepfry 1 year ago
@SirDeepfry Babies and children are supposed to have immobile foreskin. Phimosis and paraphimosis are two of the most over-diagnosed conditions. When they are correctly diagnosed, it is often the result of mishandling of the penis. Even in those situations, circumcision is not medically necessary.
Mystoksor 1 year ago 4
@Mystoksor
There is a procedure now to restore foreskin... If you can stretch the left-over skin into a foreskin, you also can stretch a phimosis into a normal functioning one.
trancis36 5 months ago
@SirDeepfry , you know, it is interesting that when other body parts gets infected, cutting it off is a last resort, they try to fight and cure the infection. But when the foreskin have trouble, the first thing you hear is circumcision.
PungiFungi 11 months ago 2
This makes sense, I'm circumcised and I have to masturbate rather violently to get any feeling, this creates an association of sex with violence and takes away the sensitivity of the act, without even considering the violence done against the child during the actual surgery.
alexfanx 1 year ago 5
BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT!
Lilly0Tilly 1 year ago 2
3:23... this is REALLY SIGNIFICANT, what
Jason and Zachary are saying here, about the difference in circumcised male sex, and natural male sex....
Lilly0Tilly 1 year ago 2
DUDE U LOOK HIGH FOR REAL.
amine140685 2 years ago
This is beautifully said!!! All forms of Circumcision is Evil & Retarded, it's against Human Rights and it should go extinct! Is god not perfect?! If god wanted this, why doesn't he come down to earth and do the procedure himself to people! Ignorant fearing control-freaks are the ones who invented this evil, to un-educate & punish the whole human race for retarded & evil reasons!! Foreskins get used for things like expensive Cosmetics!!
seaco2000 2 years ago 15
I prefer our side would use science over magical tantra hippy bullshit.
They had their history wrong too. the periah began as an attempt to prevent Jews from partially restoring their foreskins.
Also, South America is the most violent continent, so let's not use the violence argument until we have evidence.
I know you'll probably down rate this comment, but I'm trying to help get rid of this harmful practice.I've convinced a few pregnant women not to do it.
ilovethepighat 2 years ago
what? South America is NOT the most violent continent what are you talking about????? LOL I do agree with the periah began as an attempt to prevent the Jewish from restoring but I do NOT agree that South America is the most violent continent. I come from there and I have to tell you that people in my country are kinder and friendlier than USA.
enithhernandez 2 years ago 2
While I don't think it's "magical tantra hippy bullshit," I do agree we should stick to straightforward, simple information when dealing with this topic. I heard these guys just became intactivists like 1 day before the march. They get it and are coming from their hearts but it takes time to learn how to best communicate with the average American. I may believe some of what they say is true, but I wouldn't talk that way to someone else, unless I knew them very well.
aquarius1986 2 years ago
"I heard these guys just became intactivists like 1 day before the march."
That makes it even stranger. How did they come up with this "sacred realm of sensuality," in one day?
I also didn't like how they compared getting the ridged band cut off to a paper cut.
I like all the other videos on this channel, but it's just counterproductive to put some one that compares circumcision to a paper cut up.
ilovethepighat 2 years ago
Jason and Zachary have obviously been studying this issue for some time and have a very good grasp on the facts. With the paper cut comment they were pointing out that Jewish circumcision used to be far less radical in pre-Hellenic times than it is today. The paper cut analogy was off, but they are learning as we all are, with a very difficult and painful subject.
I don't wish to censor anyone speaking out against this form of child abuse; please help each other fine tune the arguments.
Bonobo3D 2 years ago
Well I realized the spiritual and sensual damage done by circumcision in one day, even though it took me longer to read all the studies and other things people had written. I understood on a gut level. I agree with Bonobo, we're here to help each other learn, not insult other people's way of expressing themselves. Some Jews do make a tiny cut in the foreskin, on the surface or at the tip. In this case, nothing is removed--a drop of blood is taken for a covenant.
aquarius1986 2 years ago
For the record, I don't agree with nicking the genitals of children at all, but I did want to point out that it's accepted in Judaism as a circumcision. I certainly think that it's less damaging ultimately, than a radical amputation of the foreskin.
aquarius1986 2 years ago
I don't intend to get into a Youtube fight.
I'm blunt, I'll admit that.
Let's just say me and seemingly everyone else on this page have different views on spirituality and leave it at that.
We're both on the same side with circumcision though.
ilovethepighat 2 years ago
"Let's just say me and seemingly everyone else on this page have different views on spirituality"
Don't worry. You are far from alone on that front ;)
freedom0f5peech 2 years ago 2
Guys, I hope you come back to DC next year!
Carolinew6462 2 years ago 4
Well, it is also somewhat 'violent' to the women/on the female's side when she experiences sex with a circumcised male. As a female, I have mostly felt pain during sex with circumcised males. Not so with the intact one.
So I suppose, this is another infliction of violence or pain from circumcision. It really hurts us all.
dmbry 2 years ago 19
I agree. It's hard to feel all those sacred/ecstatic feelings with a circumcised male, so as a woman, I also felt aggression and frustration as a result of abrasive and abnormal sex. This created enormous tension in my relationship. And also, it's depressing when a guy can't feel the amount of sexual intensity/intricacy you can because someone chopped off part of his penis without his consent. I'd also be sad as a man with a woman in the same condition. Great video, guys!
aquarius1986 2 years ago 2
Ladies, thank you for writing from the heart about something so intensely personal. Circumcised men and prospective mothers need to hear you. If circumcision seriously reduces the ability of some woman to experience sexual pleasure, that is an utterly devastating indictment of the practice.
Patricia Robinet in Eugene OR is thinking of writing a short book on this topic. She too does fine with intact men, and cannot derive any pleasure from a circumcised one.
alnot01 2 years ago 5