Truth about Yes on 8 Gay don't want you to know about

[crispymidget]

@RoseIndy nah. you're just too stupid to understand what's being said. Congrats on being able to edit out facts from your over all view of life and the world around you. I'll let you get back to that bubble world pookie.

[crispymidget]

and forced on me means I would not have the option of disconnecting from a society that has gay marriage as a force main part of it. had no on 8 won.. my family and myself would have been subjected to a society that bread evil practices and as much as I protect the right to be evil there has to be a way to disconnect and protect purity while allowing others to live prisoners to their random passions. Hope that makes some sense. A society that saw no gender marriage as holy would kill us.

[crispymidget]

and I have a right to see homosexuality as evil. I protected that. I didn't have the option to disconnect and grant room for disagreement. Our government made it them against us!

[crispymidget]

Anyone who believes in Christ is a Christian. Had any of those countries tried to force a society to recognize it then. Some things are true weather they believe it or not... and yes acceptance by government does NOT make it real... however. they have every full right to pretend live and do as they wish... even call two rats marrying a shovel a marriage. As long as it's not forced on me then there's no issue. itw as being forced on me and my society.

[starryeyedbeautypie]

tell me, does the value of your heterosexual marriage go down when homosexuals marry?

[crispymidget]

yes.

[crispymidget]

yes so long as it's forced on me by government. Which is why I voted yes on 8. We put the nails in this house of marriage and so we get to keep it free of those who did nothing to make it a respected and sought after part of society...even desired among atheists like yourself. :) The word "marriage" is popular because it is a global practice by people who hold Gender sacred.

[starryeyedbeautypie]

well, i must say, im glad your protecting all the heterosexual marriages that end in divorce, and britney spears' fifty five hour just for fun marriage. they were pretty sacred...right?

so now wait...are you saying atheists cant get married?

cause if yes, your a dumbass. this is the tewenty first century, and not everyone in the world believes in your religion, or religion at all! pull your head out of your ass and travel the country, you might learn a bit.

[crispymidget]

You obviously have no idea who you're talking to. I have traveled the world. You're lucky I took five seconds of my time to educate you in your hateful ignorance. Although Britney spears may have screwed hers up she started it right. Even you have the chance to marry a person of the opposite sex and do as you wish. I don't care what you call your union. It's not marriage. Just pretending. It IS a relationship. Hell there may even be love, but it's not a marriage. marriage requires god.

[starryeyedbeautypie]

if marriage requires god then why is it when atheists get married, its called a marriage?

[crispymidget]

Belief in god is a relationship between people and their god it is in no way checked between anyone, but god and those people before entering into his gender critical union. Hope some of this explains our stance... Although I would prefer government out of our lives.

[crispymidget]

The government made only one side a winner... which is NOT American. We need to revolt. I had sorrow in my heart that I had to vote to deny one's freedom to protect my own.

[crispymidget]

and what I am saying with atheists is that they CAN get married. Anyone can so long as they follow the rules. Just like everyone else. They only want the word marriage because we made it the word used for the highest quality relationships. Without our religions and god you would not care what people called it. I honestly think you have the right to pretend... just as you are. I support that fake marriage. As long as it's not forced on me. Which no on 8 would have forced on everyone.

[starryeyedbeautypie]

voting no on 8 would not have forced you to have a homosexual marriage buddy. someone told you a lie.

[crispymidget]

You misunderstood. voting no on 8 would have forced me to make gay marriage a part of my every day life. Not an optional part that I can just say.. hey it's fake to me...

[starryeyedbeautypie]

how would it be any different than it is now? I mean unless you go around congradulating everyone on their marriage, or you work for the state.....just how?

[crispymidget]

@starryeyedbeautypie Sorry it took me a year to get back to you. It would create within society a government stamped approval that is forced on everyone. It would basically reverse what was wrong to do to homosexuals and slap that biased intolerance on religion. My children would have had to be in a society seeing that different institutions of government accepted it. Having a government seal to tell people this is my husband is quite different than simply exercising your freedoms alone.

[crispymidget]

@starryeyedbeautypie Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships. so I'd vote no on ANYTHING like this. They need out of our relationships and lives. It would be that much harder to build a free nation again if we start doing this. We just need to get back to the constitution.

[pgunn01]

You didn't make it. The idea has been around for a very long time, and has been practiced in may different forms, some of which you would not recognise today. There has never been a single, uncontroversial, universally accepted meaning of marriage. What we're suggesting is that the legal framework in the United States be shifted to permit legal recognition of a broader set of monogamous reciprocal romantic relationships as marriage.

What do you mean by "forced on me", by the way?

[crispymidget]

We didn't make it you're right... we simply built what GOD made. We put every nail in the house of marriage here. We're the reason why it's a respected word... It's like two children wanting marriage because they see the noble nature of their parent's union... so they are pretending they are married while playing house... everyone in the USA has a right to pretend... or they should have if we protected our constitution.

[crispymidget]

It's like my martial arts classes I teach.. you can go out and buy a friggen black belt... doesn't mean you are one. You're just showing off a fake thing without earning the glory and honor.

[warjikin]

Let's hear it for seperate but equal. I mean, it's always worked in the past right? There were no movements or groundbreaking court cases to get rid of it.

[crispymidget]

Umm sorry. This is the type of comments I have to keep erasing because it's a flat out lie and if you know the definition of ignorant that exactly what the person is who makes these statements. 297.5 allows EXACT SAME RIGHTS WITHIN THE STATE of CA. The only rights not granted are federal and were NOT going to be granted with the failure of prop 8. There is a defense of marriage act that prevents the federal government from giving rights to same sex relationships. 297.5, 297.5.. you're wrong

[slinkys]

Great video.

[crispymidget]

I never said they can't be religious and gay. They can't be religious and NOT in conflict with god if they support gay marriage. This has nothing to do with gay sex, love or anything. After passing prop 8 none of that stopped. We have homosexuals in our church who pt that aside, develop attractions for women and supported prop 8. Any no on 8 IS anti God... you are simply uneducated or not smart enough to understand what I said. Hell you even thought I banned gay sex, love and relationships.

[Licypher]

if marriage is a religious thing, if its a sacred union, then it has no place being recongized as the law. serperate church and state, second marriage dates back before christianity,

[crispymidget]

The idea of civil marriage was made to sax a holy union. I do agree this should not have been voted on, but I did not have neutrality as an option. Christianity also didn't start at a certain time. It has been here from day 1. I can get into a history lesson if you like. I would say purely that homosexuals do not have the right to attack religion or marriage and try to erase the Gender roles. THAT is something that either has to be fought in bloody war or protections put in place by law.

[crispymidget]

:P we won!

[contactmatt132]

Not yet!

2% difference

and 3 million votes still uncounted means it is a possible upset.

And even if it isn't no one is going to stop till we win!

Besides most props need more than 10% to be considered the Majority, which you don't have. So ha!

Plus I just found out that this is a civil rights issue and therefor it will still be left for the courts to decide, and we know what they think:)

Lastly apparently altering the constitution is a Legislative right. Not a public one. So...down with

[contactmatt132]

And yes Tony I am still winning haha.

By a lot.

My vid has 7,000 views:))

[crispymidget]

LOL When did you post it?

[crispymidget]

I had to vote you a thumbs up on that one bro!

[contactmatt132]

Haha 10/19. And it was 20 views a way from 7,000 when I posted that comment.

And now it is at 7,600, hahahahaha

Woot! Thumbs up

[crispymidget]

two on that! LOL

[crispymidget]

@contactmatt132 love ya bro :)

[crispymidget]

if you want the federal right then go to the federal level not trying to shortcut what the nation does not want by hijacking a holy institution "Holy Matrimony". Ok if you guys started demanding gay be called straight it would completely destroy the word and meaning of the word straight. if gays decided they should be able to be called black.. same thing. Marriage is "Holy Matrimony" and if you try to put same gender in there is does the same as the examples I just stated, but against religion.

[contactmatt132]

Religion is fluid.

It holds no account in an argument, unless we had a national religion.

I would appreciate one argument that has nothing to to with religion Tony lol

[crispymidget]

Do we have time? I guess the point is it is a religious point. Guess that's kinda the point though. :) OH WOW!! doesn't this bring back memories??? LOL

I'll be glad when tomorrow is over. :)

OH AN DYOU GUYS SUCK AT THE THEATER!!! I went to watch oh hell.. what was that.. EAGLE EYE! the whole darn thing was down. I left a message for you at the ticket counter.. Saying thanks MATT!!!

[contactmatt132]

Lol ya we were having massive problems, I think there was a problem with the hard drive the company sent us or something, so we had to wait until we got another copy

[contactmatt132]

Haha Tony, I am beating you in Ratings;)

This is a terrible video friend haha.

And that person wasn't stealing signs. That was public property so they were actually unbreaking the law haha. It is illegal to post private things such as that on public property, it counts as defamation, so that person was just cleaning up the litter:)

[crispymidget]

The lady has been arrested and now stands $1000 fines per sign. It is illegal and the aren't public property :)

[contactmatt132]

Haha exactly if you are the one freaking out about not wanting the same union as gay marriage, go create your own name to make yourself feel different.

[crispymidget]

The problem is like when those child molesting people who have nothing to do with the Mormons go and say they are Mormons and people get confused. When homosexuals use thatw ord people and especially children get confused. People associate the word mormon with our missionaries and the book of Mormon. So with the same info in mind. this applies to marriage which we have always had to mean a man and woman. I see no right to call it marriage than thee others had to try to say they were Mormon. :)

[crispymidget]

and you are still a turd matt LOL *hugs*

[crispymidget]

Oh and yes Gender critical means it's not a relationship with Gender being sacred, structured and special. Maybe you're just not smart enough to understand that... shown by your "LOL". I hope that's not true. Please stop the hate like that and use yours brains. I am sure you have them. You're likely not retarded. You're only gay so behave like a human and be my friend.

[contactmatt132]

Why is gender sacred? It's just a sterotype enforced by culture, and every culture gender is different. Every year 1 in 1000 children are born intersexed. Are they not sanctified? Are they evil? It is hardest on them because either they or their parents must choose which gender they should be raised as. Just so they can get society to understand them. It shouldn't have to be this way. There aren't any real differences between men and women, other than the few biological ones.

[crispymidget]

"There aren't any real differences between men and women, other than the few biological ones." and that's the view that will be forced on everyone if prop 8 does not pass. There will be no option to have any other belief. It becomes mandatory. That's wrong. You don't have to follow our beliefs, ut we have the right to keep what is ours and have our beliefs.

[contactmatt132]

Haha there is no such thing as madatory belief. You should know about discrimination. You are mormon. Mainstream Christianity hates Mormonism haha. If they ruled the counrty like you want them to, Mormonism would have been stomped out years ago. Hmmmmm how is that fair? Oh yessss It isnt. Just like taking away marriage rights isnt fair.

[crispymidget]

I never got that one either. We believe in Christ and if Christ being your savior isn't qualification to be Christian then what is? See we're not making it a law that people have to teach their kids that we're christian if we're not by their definition (still waiting on a definition) I guess that's the difference. OK!!! we need to post non prop 8 vids... Tired of this as I am???? LOL

[crispymidget]

oh and the point I have is that protections to people's right so long as they don't hurt anyone else. Protecting marriage stomps no gay rights none. you still get gay love gay sex... all that. simply marriage is not yours.

[Equality4AllPlz]

Protect marriage??

Marriage Protection Checklist:

[ ] Reduce divorce rates.

[ ] End domestic violence.

[ ] End adultery.

[x] Ban Rights of others.

(They skipped a few.)

[crispymidget]

Protect marriage??

Marriage Protection Checklist:

[X}Reduce divorce rates. DONE! Our temple marriage enjoy a 95%+ success rate. Good try. And a large amount of divorces are because homosexuals fade the special bond and meaning of Gender and marriage.

[x] End domestic violence. No one is perfect, but I agree. Again, we have the lowest rates even above gays.

[x] End adultery. Very uncommon

[x] Ban Rights of others? Umm you have gay sex, love. Did that end? We own and thus define marriage.

[crispymidget]

The wonderful thing is that if they are born with different junk and you find them attractive... then you get to embrace that AND be welcome to marriage. You just found a fix :)

[crispymidget]

Sorry my friend... But marriage has been what "Our holy union" is named for thousands of years. Again... if you want it what do you gain

(insert crickets here)

The answer is in my video. Nothing but a hateful sucker punch to religion.

If you think you need more rights I will support that 100%. What do you need? What is not there? I mean we're on equal grounds on rights so why invade marriage which is and always has been defined as "The holy union of marriage" for thousands of years...???

[contactmatt132]

Here is a list on where inequalities start.

Prop 8:

1. Eliminates same-sex couples right to marry

2. Public employees excluded from long-term care insurance

3. Spouse of veteran can no longer collect all state benefits when veteran passes away

4. Spouses can no longer share property

5. Joint tax returns banned

6. Transfer of assets over $11,000 no longer tax exempt

7. Can not change family name without court order

8. Parenthood of same-sex couples threatened if family moves out of California

[crispymidget]

One a state level this is not true please see family code section 297.5 It's not just a suggestion that you get equal state rights it's the law. :) So no need to worry. The history of 297.5 in action in california proves that domestic partnerships DO get all the same benefits. oh and same sex couples do not havethe right to marry :) That's like saying that homosexuals can no start calling themselves straight and force everyone to recognize that. :)

[crispymidget]

Thank you so much for being like my gay friend Matt. We disagree, but he listens to me and we're friends. You've all stopped the hate labeling for the most part!! See how we get real answers to your concerns! Now you have no concerns we don't need to worry about no on 8! We can all be happy now and you understand. Thank you for letting go of the force and hate. It's a pleasure.

[fontario4]

Federal income tax laws do not treat domestic partner benefits the same as benefits offered to married couples. Ordinarily, an employee whose partner receives domestic partner benefits must include the cost of those benefits as taxable income. This means that the employee must pay tax not only on the premium paid for the benefits, but must include the portion of the cost of the benefits paid by the employer as taxable income.

[crispymidget]

Then that is obtained by reversing the Federal law... not by invading a religious institution. So this is about money then? We're to trade our holy union so homosexuals get a tax break??? The income tax is illegal anyway I might ad, but whole new topic! Your taxes are a separate issue of a FEDERAL matter that is not properly addressed by trying to shortcut by invading a church and trying to pass as a holy union. No social rights or state rights are gained or lost.

[crispymidget]

Nice try though... almost brilliant try to put that one in there. So, let's run that commercial.. vote no on prop 8.. because... because... homosexuals want more money from the federal government. That's not just hate... that's greedy and selfish. Why would that be worth defiling a person's religious freedom? Still as I stated no new rights or social freedom.. nothing in the state is gained, by trying to defeat this prop. Go Federal for fed matters... or get rid of the FEd reserve!!

[fontario4]

Did you read the proposition, do you know that it's about state law, it mentions nothing about gays taking your holy union, were not even trying to get religions to accept gay marriage, just the state that's all, your churches will still stand, your priests can refuse to marry a gay couple, you don't have to accept it.

[crispymidget]

Ok, say Let me use an analogy. It's like 4 judges allowed one lifestyle to put vitamins that poisoned a daily used public water supply for everyone, but homosexuals. In fact it made Homosexuals super human in strength and makes the faith based non homosexual families slowly die or grow weak. So we ask... why do you need our water supply? *crickets* Why when you have your own water supply? That we don't have to drink. You'd say, but we want to use all water.. even though we can't drink yours.

[crispymidget]

Why won't you let us keep our water supply? So see although on the surface all it looked like was a vitamin infusion for homosexuals... it was toxic to the religious and Gender sacred families. So we wonder why you need it when you already have a water supply... it's called a domestic partnership. We can't survive when you add your special requirements to our holy water. Yours is equally as public and available in supply... so why poison a whole society?

[crispymidget]

In short you can't have state poison our water (Marriage of a man and woman) for your use... without damaging us and our right to clean water. We also can not refuse any constitutional services. But the question remains... why do you need our holy union of marriage? Why do you need all the water supply adapted to your needs without caring about us? You have the right to water when you need it. Just as we did. We want to get the toxins out. that's all. Why do you have a right to poison us?

[crispymidget]

No analogy : The state is letting you take a union that grants you nothing. You can no more say a water supply can be gas and frozen at the same time as you can say Gays and straights can share marriage and have it still be the same thing. The gas version is what is happening now... the ice version is to take away your rights to domestic partnerships.... we had a normal mellow equality before those judges.

[vanboarder]

That is as close to complete bigotry as is possible without calling yourself a bigot. You're basically describing segregation, remember, when black people couldn't drink from the same public fountains as whites. Seriously, I know you won't post this, but you're insane.

[crispymidget]

No it's an analogy. We're not saying you can't have water. Ok. You're gettin desperate so.. let's change this to food that is specifically designed to nurture the Religious. You have food that fits your genetic code and we have ours. Why should you be allowed to poison our food when you have your own and all the same rights to ride the bus lol... let's not pretend you're like blacks were my friend. That's not cool.

[vanboarder]

Why would gays poison your food if we ate it? Obviously, you're saying there's something wrong with us.

So you're saying there was something wrong with blacks too? You just can't say anything without offending someone.

[crispymidget]

I am saying you are poison yes. But you can be poison if you stay away form us. Tolerance means you allow us to exist when you are poison to our lifestyle so long as you don;t come for us. We are not attempting to poison you. And I said nothing about blacks... so that made no sense. Care to try again?

[crispymidget]

oh and it's not poison to you... it's vitamins to your genetic make up. It is poison to us. Why do you need to try to claim something that has been our for thousands of years? There nothing gained so where does the justification come from?

[crispymidget]

My black friend here will be glad to record a video to disarm your attempt to call me racist if needed. Maybe I'll add that to the homosexuals who agree with prop 8.

[vanboarder]

That would just be another one of the many rights that we're denied because your chosen lifestyle deems us immoral.

[crispymidget]

and what are the many rights. you don't have the right to take marriage away from religion.

[contactmatt132]

You don't have the right to use one religion to rule all.

[crispymidget]

It's not just one :) Thanks for the comments MAtt LOL this brings back soem memories!! LOL!!

[iphonecowboy]

Now if we really wanted to protect the fundamental purpose of marriage, seeing as how you seem to fully believe in family values. We should all get together and amend the constitution to ban divorce. Divorce seems to be the reason why families get split apart. Whether Prop 8 passes or not, straight marriage is either gonna be just as shitty or or just as great as it always has been. Nothing more or nothing less.

[crispymidget]

I wasn't gonna post this cuz of cussing, but Just because some fail does not means we give everyone no chance to do god's will. If there was less hate and more respect for marriage (lessened by no on 8 ideals) then marriages would be more successful overall. Divorce or not it was holy to start and the LDS church, who respects it most above all as corner stone of existence, has an 80% + success rate and we're the fastest growing church on earth. No debt either. ZERO!

[iphonecowboy]

You have to remember that marriage doesn't only belong to the Christian, Catholic or any such religion. As I see it, everyone who is straight has the right to marry. O.K. I get it.. But lets take the Islamic culture as an example. Their God and our God are two totally different Gods; but they get married too. That's the problem with most religious people in the United States. We don't all practice the same religion.

[crispymidget]

No marriage does not belong to one religion, but to those who honor it's structure. We share it freely with those who honor it and not redefine marriage for anyone else and homosexuals are. Christian principles are the foundation of our entire society here. Adam and eve founded marriage all Gender based religions are simply following their example with minor variations. Gender erases it's meaning not just varying it.

[crispymidget]

The Gay god and the God of all Gender loving religions are different, because there is no gay god. Those who want to honor religion follow the same god's rules.

[crispymidget]

I am also sure the entire yes on 8 group would push for any rights you think you need if you leave marriage alone.

[crispymidget]

I also want to add a portion from my video coming up that is backed by one yes on 8 homosexual partnership.

"I don't think that this constitutes unequal treatment under the law. For example, a gay man can marry a woman,

just as a heterosexual man can. A lesbian woman can marry a man, just as a heterosexual woman can."

[crispymidget]

What I would like to say is that civil marriage was created as a tool to tax god's union. Frankly, the first marriage was Adam and eve. The word marriage hold social respect only with religious types. all men and all women are granted the chance to come together and get married in a gender specific union. What the choose to do with that opportunity is up to them and taken on a case by case basis. This is not the same as destroying Gender lines.

[SanieClaws]

Guys.

Are we forgetting that marriage has not always been about God for everyone? That some people who get married are athiests, idol worshipers, wikkans? They're all married and clearly in violation of the commandments. Should we call their marriages something different ? "Domestic partnerships?"

Demanding to be treated as equals is not an attack on religion. Many of us are religious ourselves.

[crispymidget]

As an open as I write my reply. I have approved this comment. Remember no hate please. This guy offers some of the most hate free speech possible form the gay supporters.

[Raphinater]

awsome video. this video makes so much sense! the arguments against this are not very good...

[crispymidget]

if you take every message where you say hate or intolerance and put the truth like "Don't agree with me" it totally disarms your war machine. Stop false labeling and lies. The biggest lie of all is that anyone who disagrees with homosexuals on issues of morality have to be haters intolerant and pushing inequality. How did you guys ever fool so many people into thinking that having a difference of view is hate? No christian is trying to prevent you from having domestic partnerships. stop hate!

[crispymidget]

and shybearsf... the fact you don't see the effects of your words is just more indoctrination. Now you haven't labeled me so I will assume you are a friend potential. so far. It's hate of religion when you can strip the most sacred union and defile it without a care without gaining new rights and purely for no gain at all other than a false claim to a union made for those that care what god thinks about a man and a woman in a marriage. If you do not care about Gender you don't need marriage!

[shybearsf]

You are lost midget. You have so much hate in your heart you can't even focus it correctly. First its a gender thing, then its a children in school thing. The children in school thing is a screen you hide behind. You hide behind the children.

[crispymidget]

My friend. The children in school is a concern, but not my top one. that's why my first video was this. The holy Union and not on children. Gender being holy is priority one.. you just called me a hater... there's the label of the war machine I talked about. Why because I disagree and don't submit I am instantly hating? That's a perversion of logic. I love you and I love marriage. You have no need for marriage. It's about Gender being holy and you guys wanting to hate it & force that gone!

[crispymidget]

The reason school is a concern is because children can be indoctrinated easily at young ages to think that homosexuality is normal and the same and that should be left till later ages in life. It's always about Gender... even the children in school is about Gender. Stop the hate! yes on 8!

[crispymidget]

FACT: When some one objects to the gay lifestyle or says that marriage is between a man and a woman. Bully tactics come into play. We're called "haters" "Homophobes" "Intolerant"... just because we disagree and the fact that we are labels so strikes fear into many and confusion because such things as hate are wrong, but having a different view is not hate. Protecting Marriage to be holy before god and recognizing homoseuxal marriage destroys the purpose is not hate.. it's protecting our union.

[shybearsf]

Where did you get the idea that gays hate god and christians? In every group there are extremists. The majority of gays don't "bully" christians. You need to get your fact correct. The majority of gays don't "indoctrinate" hate or bullying. Homosexual war machine? That is your hate peeking thru the mask of tolerance you wear. You hate gays, just say it, but don't hide behind this ridiculous line you are taking. I don't hate you!

[crispymidget]

Would you steal from millions the right to their holy union? You never want to hurt someone you love... and this not only hurts... it kills the gender roles. IF gays did not hate Christians they would not need to force them to submit and die... saying we can have no holy union that puts a man and woman sacred! Gay's are embraced (Not merely tolerated) by some because they have been indoctrinated. Now the focus is on our children in schools. If you don't hate... good... don't defile marriage.

[jerrydoubleu]

I know bullshit when I hear it. Homophobia in this video.

[crispymidget]

That has nothing to do with being scared of gays. They can have gay love gay sex and even still be my friend. The have a god given gift of free agency to sin, but our marriage has nothing to do with it. Stop applying false titles. This is how the homosexual war machine works. Bully tactics. Hate rhetoric. When anyone disagrees they're bullied by false titles. I know an indoctrinated bully when I see it. Please stop hating me and my union of marriage that benefits homosexuals nothing.

[crispymidget]

I can address the truth you think I omit. I have no problem answering your questions. You do realize that just claiming marriage does not mean god respects the union right? You can't force God. Why would you erase freedom of religion.? What do you hate me so much? Please keep the conversation factual. What were showing here is that gays do more bully tactics and indoctrinating hate rhetoric then the peace loving, God loving, marriage loving people they attempt to defile. Thanks again.

[crispymidget]

Thank you for your view and a peak into the no on 8 mind set. Gays are into God bashing so it more than evens out in that arena, but now they won;t stop until they remove every shred of anything that disagrees. that is hat. you said, "It is not hate to disagree with a lifestyle, it is hate to mandate a constitutional law" I agree... NO on 8. Do not mandate that gays get a right to invade something that never was theirs and only means something to Gender specific roles. Stop bullying. Yes on 8!

[crispymidget]

that is sad... I meant loL... not hat :) LOL

[RandyThomasson]

What a joke. Another pathetic attempt to demonize a group of people. You are just like the KKK.

[crispymidget]

Hello, thank you for your message, but the demonizing is from those trying to steal the union... not the defenders. please stop generalized statements back by no real fact and hate labeling. If you would like a hate free discussion of why my holy union should be traded please post again. It's sad you would take the theft or religious freedom and love of god as a joke. So, my religion's view that Gender is special makes me KKK now? Write yes or no please with your reply.

[RandyThomasson]

And having a no on prop8 sign with a rainbow flag on it point a gun and a picture of Jesus would qualify as an attempt to demonize the gay community.

[crispymidget]

That is exactly what the gay community is doing. the homosexual community is saying "Submit and give us your union or we'll force you" and "It's gonna happen like it or not!"... if you think that's a demon. well. I'll let you put that label on them. The civil marriage is an attempt by government to tax marriage (THAT IS NOTHING LESS THAN RELIGIOUS) and protect the finances that protect the children in the marriage. It was never meant as open season for gays to claim our union we created.

[Believing1Thomas]

Actually, the KKK (idiots though they were) attacked people for something inherent to them as people. Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.

The KKK beat, tortured, and murdered people - this kid just made a video debating the merits of Prop 8. Seems like a few people who WANT tolerance aren't prepared to GIVE tolerance if the viewpoint is dissenting.

[Emiteal]

Oh, and by the way, just because something is legal does not mean you have to accept it.

Just look at some of the racist comments related to Obama. Thousands of people won't vote for him expressly because he's black. Never mind that African Americans have been equal under the law for decades now. They're still not equal in the eyes of racists. It's concrete proof that even if gay marriage is legalized, you can keep on hating it! So don't worry about that.

[crispymidget]

I find the racist thing as sad as you do. That has nothing to do with the marriage institution though. Let's stay on topic. Can I ask a question and get a yes or no? Is disagreeing with Gays lifestyle hating? Even if I don;t try to keep them from gay sex.. gay love.... just our century old union of marriage that grants them nothing? A yes or no with your answer would be fantastic! Let's try to have a grown up talk eh? You seem smart enough... and decent. Thanks!

[crispymidget]

Yeh the only problem with that isn't rights it's that marriage is the name for the holy union of a man and woman to use their god given and Gender specific roles and talents. Thank you for the hate free post though. Very good suggestion. Marriage is a private club run by god and like the boy scouts... Gays have no claim to demand entry and even more there is no reason to want entry unless to defile and attack.... thank you again.