Nobody claims it is pleasant you idiots. But it is NOT torture in the classic sense (ie the rack, burning, cutting, castrating etc). Since when did have we not been allowed to make our enemies uncomfortable? I fail to see why this is such a big deal.
Just to clear some stuff up, two years later and all...
There was a hole in the cellophane, he's on a downward slope and when he leans up like that, he's not laughing, he's gasping for breath because his body reacts as if he were drowning. Later, I asked if it was torture, he said it was. The many gathered around, including myself, were all geeks, hicks, and townies, not frat boys. Was it stupid? Obviously. But it's not nearly as stupid as the people debating the fine points of torture here.
It clearly is torture, imagine yourself lying there, with your hands restrained having that done. I did it to myself once, i lasted a minute... the time it took to hold my breath, then i caved. an extra 30 seconds and i wouldv been a shivering wreck. imagine that repetatively with few breaths between and you have something out of a horror flick.
Torture is the lowest of humanity, i am ashamed to be human knowing we are capable of it.
Wow I like how a stupid gay video of kids acting like retards always sparks debate and serious conversation on YouTube. Once you even remotely mention something political all of the know-it-alls come out of the woodwork and start YAPPING!
This wasn't even waterboarding you fucking idiots. A towel shoved down your throat and they gag you with it while dumping lots of water on it so you breathe in the moisture. All of these "simulated waterboardings" are not even the real thing.
Aw come on, show what the guy had to say afterwards. The act is nothing compared to the reaction and description.
If you're someone who says this is not torture, I dare you to try it yourself with a towel, the consider the circumstances that some of those prisoners had to experience.
1) most of them were tortured very violently before hand
2) some of them may not have even known information they were trying to get.
I'm not saying EVERY instance they used it was wrong,
The main difference between 'trying waterboarding" and actual waterboarding is that the torture victim does not know for sure whether he or she is going to be killed, and the person trying it certain knows they will likely be fine. That psychological difference is tremendous.
Petraeus intimates that we did torture and break the law here:
GENERAL PETRAEUS: ...take away from our enemies a tool which again they've beaten us around the head and shoulders in the court of public opinion."
"When we have taken steps that have violated the Geneva Convention, we rightly have been criticized... it's important to again live our values, to live the agreements that we have made in the international justice arena..."
Someone seems to be wuite the sadomasicist. An Iron Maiden! Are you serious? We're talking about interegation methods not about executions dumbass. Why don't you look up what you're talking about before you leave a stupid a comment like that. The topic of waterboarding is wether it is a proper form of interregation or if it is torture. If you use an Iron Maiden then that defeats your purpose because you just killed the one guy that might be able to give you the information that you need.
Once you climb onto the slippery slope of torture, then you can just argue for using more and more heinous means against those you no longer define as human.
Pulling out people's entrails while people were alive and watching, tearing limbs, etc. were ALL done by well meaning "christians" who were convinced that were doing a righteous act.
Torture is favored by those are full of fear and superstition themselves. Backwards people, anti-modern. Republicans.
Just because it dosn't cause physical pain doesn't mean it is not traumatic. I can mentally fight pain to some extent, but I guarantee that if I was waterboarded correctly, I would speak quicker than most other forms of torture.
This is the most watered down version of waterboarding...ever. No pun intended.
True waterboarding would make this pansy scream like a little school girl. I bet most of you couldn't last 5 seconds being waterboarded using the correct method.
It was fiendishly clever of Cheney and his crew to pick waterboarding as one of their main methods of torturing. It seems less violent and they knew the public would be able to get past thinking of it as torture.
You have to think about it too much to realize how terrifying it is. They were counting on people not thinking too much.
If we don't investigate and prosecute ANYONE who said torture was ok and ANYONE else who tortures, bush's and cheney's crimes become ours. Time is of the essence.
Yeah, I agree with the last few comments. I don't see how anyone could make a joke of this. My only guess is that they have yet to be exposed to a real senario where it is happening. I watched a few other videos on the topics and I was shocked in disbelief just how cruel this is. God for bid if this happen to me, it appears that just holding your breath for the duration of the time would be easier, but I understand that you have to be gagged with a cloth so you can even do that. YOUR SCREWED!
no actually they cut a hole in the cellophane wrap so that way a steady stream comes in right to the back of your throat to make you gag and experience the drowning effect
i dont understand, i see they are doing it wrong and to short time, but what is the torture in getting water in your face with plastic over it? probably stupid question i know but plz answer
And there would be restraints that wouldn't allow the guy to move like he wanted to, so there is no way to relieve the panic with movement or covering your face like he is.
Did Experts do it on people who where laughing about it. or People who where not aloud to sleep and kept scared pissless by dogs? and I know you where joking Leechdom
yes, the feeling of drowning sucks. ive done it. but still, its not ganna kill anyone. and yes this is stupid. at least on jackass they have pros standing by.
I'm glad it's all fun and games to you. Perhaps if you did it right (with a hole in the plastic), then maybe you would truly grasp how horrible it is. But, I guess actually putting yourself through torture probably wouldn't be much fun or get as many laughs.
Get over yourself. He wanted to see what it was like, we wanted to see what it was like, and we figured it'd be better to do it amongst friends than to get snatched by the CIA and sent to Guantanamo.
I'm sorry if that offends your pathetic sensibilities.
According to press accounts, a cloth or plastic wrap is placed over or in the person's mouth, and water is poured on to the person's head. As far as the details of this technique, press accounts differ - one article describes "dripping water into a wet cloth over a suspect's face", another states that "cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him."
Dude- if you know these guys, thank them personally for putting this on youtube. It is actually a decent representation of the actual practice (not torture). I would give it a 3 of 10, but for kids who are not trained that aint bad...At least an attempt of research was done,,,College educated fraternity buys I would guess??
Nobody claims it is pleasant you idiots. But it is NOT torture in the classic sense (ie the rack, burning, cutting, castrating etc). Since when did have we not been allowed to make our enemies uncomfortable? I fail to see why this is such a big deal.
flierumph 1 year ago
@flierumph
you people always have "enemies", you're always at war and you just cant leave other countries alone, this is inhumane.
fuck the US, 911 is a holiday, every American death should be celebrated.
Uteko95 1 year ago
@Ant1fa5 your very much right
b00bby2010 1 year ago
wimp
DieTheDeath 1 year ago
You did this completely wrong. Saran wrap is for people trying to suffocate themselves, which i wish you would have.
oxBUSHIDOxo 1 year ago
You're supposed to use a wet rag dumb shits.
Cmartin40 1 year ago
Just to clear some stuff up, two years later and all...
There was a hole in the cellophane, he's on a downward slope and when he leans up like that, he's not laughing, he's gasping for breath because his body reacts as if he were drowning. Later, I asked if it was torture, he said it was. The many gathered around, including myself, were all geeks, hicks, and townies, not frat boys. Was it stupid? Obviously. But it's not nearly as stupid as the people debating the fine points of torture here.
JuroJanosik 1 year ago
"Clearly is torture" I didn't know this was up to question...
"Is sugar sweet or not?"
fadfskfsk 2 years ago
It clearly is torture, imagine yourself lying there, with your hands restrained having that done. I did it to myself once, i lasted a minute... the time it took to hold my breath, then i caved. an extra 30 seconds and i wouldv been a shivering wreck. imagine that repetatively with few breaths between and you have something out of a horror flick.
Torture is the lowest of humanity, i am ashamed to be human knowing we are capable of it.
boobiesmakemesmile06 2 years ago 8
@boobiesmakemesmile06 agreed man, and boobies make me smile too.
DEvin3290 2 years ago
Laugh now you won't be laughing if it really did happen to you without you choice of stopping
Shelshocka 2 years ago 2
HAHA Murph! It makes me miss cyberland :(
Fyren175 2 years ago
Wow I like how a stupid gay video of kids acting like retards always sparks debate and serious conversation on YouTube. Once you even remotely mention something political all of the know-it-alls come out of the woodwork and start YAPPING!
This wasn't even waterboarding you fucking idiots. A towel shoved down your throat and they gag you with it while dumping lots of water on it so you breathe in the moisture. All of these "simulated waterboardings" are not even the real thing.
Stupid video.
wushdishmeen 2 years ago 2
You guys are sick.
goobie04 2 years ago
Aw come on, show what the guy had to say afterwards. The act is nothing compared to the reaction and description.
If you're someone who says this is not torture, I dare you to try it yourself with a towel, the consider the circumstances that some of those prisoners had to experience.
1) most of them were tortured very violently before hand
2) some of them may not have even known information they were trying to get.
I'm not saying EVERY instance they used it was wrong,
but some of them may have.
thevaliar 2 years ago 2
@thevaliar
The main difference between 'trying waterboarding" and actual waterboarding is that the torture victim does not know for sure whether he or she is going to be killed, and the person trying it certain knows they will likely be fine. That psychological difference is tremendous.
decadyne 2 years ago
these muslims were never sent to court or given chance to prove themselfs many were not caught in a battlefield.
so in short america is now joining the fields of dictatorships.
9/11 was a inside job in order to kill the constitution and make endless wars.
RIP constitution of america and RIP all muslims that died for greed of US goverment.
if your breaking the US constitution that what are you fighting for ??? not the bill of rights not for freedoms.
that much is for sure
TrueLightz 2 years ago
a fellow zeitgeist movment member i see. good on ya.
it's hard to argue points with some of these blind men and women.
wannakraka 2 years ago
Hey Dems, lets stop waterboarding the terrorist and start abording them!
brianskaggs25 2 years ago
Petraeus intimates that we did torture and break the law here:
GENERAL PETRAEUS: ...take away from our enemies a tool which again they've beaten us around the head and shoulders in the court of public opinion."
"When we have taken steps that have violated the Geneva Convention, we rightly have been criticized... it's important to again live our values, to live the agreements that we have made in the international justice arena..."
- Quote 2 days ago - find on google
vonKressenstein 2 years ago
The last comment was directed to Jicim
kblake0709 2 years ago
Water boarding is torture for PUSSIES. Thumb screws, iron maidens, being whipped, using a rack to pull someone apart. thats the real shit.
Jicim 2 years ago
So feeling like you're going to drown over and over again and having water going up your nose and down your throat is for pussies? Really?
slipknotchick727 2 years ago
Someone seems to be wuite the sadomasicist. An Iron Maiden! Are you serious? We're talking about interegation methods not about executions dumbass. Why don't you look up what you're talking about before you leave a stupid a comment like that. The topic of waterboarding is wether it is a proper form of interregation or if it is torture. If you use an Iron Maiden then that defeats your purpose because you just killed the one guy that might be able to give you the information that you need.
kblake0709 2 years ago
Jicim is right to a degree.
Once you climb onto the slippery slope of torture, then you can just argue for using more and more heinous means against those you no longer define as human.
Pulling out people's entrails while people were alive and watching, tearing limbs, etc. were ALL done by well meaning "christians" who were convinced that were doing a righteous act.
Torture is favored by those are full of fear and superstition themselves. Backwards people, anti-modern. Republicans.
vonKressenstein 2 years ago
What ever gets the job done.
wiirluvenit 2 years ago
Just because it dosn't cause physical pain doesn't mean it is not traumatic. I can mentally fight pain to some extent, but I guarantee that if I was waterboarded correctly, I would speak quicker than most other forms of torture.
1pete51 2 years ago
This is the most watered down version of waterboarding...ever. No pun intended.
True waterboarding would make this pansy scream like a little school girl. I bet most of you couldn't last 5 seconds being waterboarded using the correct method.
anun1982 2 years ago
It was fiendishly clever of Cheney and his crew to pick waterboarding as one of their main methods of torturing. It seems less violent and they knew the public would be able to get past thinking of it as torture.
You have to think about it too much to realize how terrifying it is. They were counting on people not thinking too much.
Seems to be working.
satidog 2 years ago
Busch was fuckin the president, He had the power to do what the fuck he wanted to do, and PRESIDENTS RUNs Shit In America......
JackBOYZ813 2 years ago
If we don't investigate and prosecute ANYONE who said torture was ok and ANYONE else who tortures, bush's and cheney's crimes become ours. Time is of the essence.
peaceispatriotic7 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree with the last few comments. I don't see how anyone could make a joke of this. My only guess is that they have yet to be exposed to a real senario where it is happening. I watched a few other videos on the topics and I was shocked in disbelief just how cruel this is. God for bid if this happen to me, it appears that just holding your breath for the duration of the time would be easier, but I understand that you have to be gagged with a cloth so you can even do that. YOUR SCREWED!
1GDSMKING 2 years ago 2
no actually they cut a hole in the cellophane wrap so that way a steady stream comes in right to the back of your throat to make you gag and experience the drowning effect
F4LL3NSKAT3R27 2 years ago
i dont understand, i see they are doing it wrong and to short time, but what is the torture in getting water in your face with plastic over it? probably stupid question i know but plz answer
Krejtaz 2 years ago
the torture is the feeling of drowning. If you think you are dying you panic. It's p
psicologic torture.
But in this case it's physical also, because you are incapable of breathing during the time water is splashed into your throat and nose.
There is real danger of death or lung damage if water gets into your lungs.
kriptonis 2 years ago
ahh i see, you panic because your brain thinks you're drowning
Krejtaz 2 years ago
yes, that's it. And when the torture is performed you don't really know if you're going to get out alive.
In this case, the kid knows it's just a joke, and he has full control. But that's not the case in a "serious" interrogation.
And most people will do or say anything to escape death. I would.
Damn I would admit to a secret conspiracy of hamsters in charge of world domination, if I though it would save my life.
kriptonis 2 years ago
And there would be restraints that wouldn't allow the guy to move like he wanted to, so there is no way to relieve the panic with movement or covering your face like he is.
Aaecus 2 years ago
you're doing it wrong
isopoison 2 years ago
You need to do it on an down incline so the water seeps up the nose. That's what triggers the panic.
Strap your friend down, and do it for ten seconds. We'll see if he's laughing.
falstoffe 2 years ago 2
This guy did it for 5 seconds, the prisoners in guantanamo for a couple of hours
Bilaaal1 2 years ago
dumb
Sciesch 3 years ago
ffagets
luisair 3 years ago
im pretty sure they dont put plastic wrap around peoples faces before they pour water on them. dumbasses.
roanokebadgers20 3 years ago
Wrapping a persons face in plastic is actually considered one of the ways to practise waterboarding.
arakadak 2 years ago
Ya that guy looked like he was being tortured alright!
LOLOL
asliberalastheycome 3 years ago
Jeremy didn't even know what he was starting when he did this... hahaha. Hey, let's all youtube fight about waterboarding!
laceabugg 3 years ago
lmao :D
im more smarter than all of you people commenting about water boarding >:O
not really i just found out about it yesterday lol
ninjasquidface 2 years ago
"More smarter"
I lol'd
MikoKeZ 2 years ago
glad it was funny :)
ninjasquidface 2 years ago
I'm better smarter!
:D
kriptonis 2 years ago
Did Experts do it on people who where laughing about it. or People who where not aloud to sleep and kept scared pissless by dogs? and I know you where joking Leechdom
cabcabcab1990 3 years ago
Yeah, uh huh... keep doing this and you could have severe phsycological effects and have panic attacks, which is what experts say
Wacoswim 3 years ago 2
just kiddin around man, i say go for it. funny stuff.
leechdom 3 years ago
yes, the feeling of drowning sucks. ive done it. but still, its not ganna kill anyone. and yes this is stupid. at least on jackass they have pros standing by.
leechdom 3 years ago
SAFETY IS FOR FAGGOTS...jackass
cabcabcab1990 3 years ago
if you don't want people to post this video, then disable the embed code.
decolady2 3 years ago
lame
aftk13 3 years ago
that is not funny..just stupid!!!
pervin81 3 years ago
Would you all stop being little whinny bitches.
I was there, and the kid wanted it done. We weren't doing it against his will so you can all shut the fuck up.
cabcabcab1990 3 years ago
Are u assholes?? because you look like that.
Don't you know there's a lot of people who has died because of this? I'm really ashamed about you, even I'm Spanish.
emomcrgirl 3 years ago
Oh. You're spanish? I guess you're right, then. Our sincere apologies.
JuroJanosik 3 years ago
I'm glad it's all fun and games to you. Perhaps if you did it right (with a hole in the plastic), then maybe you would truly grasp how horrible it is. But, I guess actually putting yourself through torture probably wouldn't be much fun or get as many laughs.
IaoGawd 3 years ago 3
Get over yourself. He wanted to see what it was like, we wanted to see what it was like, and we figured it'd be better to do it amongst friends than to get snatched by the CIA and sent to Guantanamo.
I'm sorry if that offends your pathetic sensibilities.
JuroJanosik 3 years ago
man you guys are fags! HAHAHAHAHAHA funny.
K2theaylyn 3 years ago
Stupid Kids
GabbaGimmlie 3 years ago
Thats not funny!
whitty1010 3 years ago
do it proper and i might laugh at you
slamturd 3 years ago 3
omg, that was wild! who sits around and thinks to do that?! anyway, remember to incline the guys feet next time :)
inoprincess 4 years ago
He was on an incline.
JuroJanosik 3 years ago
That's not water boarding. Water boarding involves soggy rags down the throat.
fudebackr 4 years ago
According to press accounts, a cloth or plastic wrap is placed over or in the person's mouth, and water is poured on to the person's head. As far as the details of this technique, press accounts differ - one article describes "dripping water into a wet cloth over a suspect's face", another states that "cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him."
JuroJanosik 4 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Look I'm glad that the details aren't out there, I was just making a point.
fudebackr 4 years ago
They are out there if you look. Google is your friend for this stuff.
Hydrashok1337 4 years ago
my god man, wtf. I tell you I'm home and you do this shit without bring me with you guys. What kind of friend are you, lol.
ddmneo 4 years ago
Dude- if you know these guys, thank them personally for putting this on youtube. It is actually a decent representation of the actual practice (not torture). I would give it a 3 of 10, but for kids who are not trained that aint bad...At least an attempt of research was done,,,College educated fraternity buys I would guess??
topurpledogs 2 years ago
Hate to break it to you but they're not college buys. Just some white hicks from New England.
ddmneo 2 years ago
I always think this is going to involve wake boarding.
MANdouche 4 years ago