I love how Stephan says that the government and authoritarion figures teaches conclusions and how not to think comprehesively and then Stephan asks the most important questions...And then gives the conclusions..
Very good video providing 'GIST' of what people have to deal with in their daily lives.
One must also remember that despite all the laws crime is unabated including from top Political power to people. Therefore, the internal law governing self is most important asset/deed that these external laws fails to address therefore we see rise in crime/police-state/corruption/injustice/growing-apathy as we keep losing virtues/ethics!
STEFAN FREAKING MOLENUEx! you should totally hire/designate, or at least think of something close to making something/someone become a teacher, or work on an artifface!!! Something that works on everyday problems people have (like the sunday call-in show) I always have too many questions to ask when I think of them (during my day) and i can't wait for the call-in show or find my own answers. You need a more practical guide for UPB! PLEASWE!
hay steph i think you are a little to intellectual for this crowd they just don't get it? the knowledge you have is inspiring and true, but how do you get it across to the masses? maybe a comedy duo would help, some humor a double act? as always it made complete sense to me.
Government is how many people? 200? 400? And they are in office for what, 10 years? 5 years? Do you really think they can control everything like you described?
And who proposes the laws? Are all humans who ever propose a law some kind of goverment agents, with no idea of morality? Or no interest to do good and contribute to happiness of society?
Are all individual teachers really such puppets of the covernment? Do all of them really strive to hide these answers from students?
@bary1234 The phrase "control everything" is very vague. Even if that's the wording he used, obviously he didn't mean it literally. Acting like he did (applies to the rest of your comment as well) is a lame tactic. Who said anything about laws? There's only moral and immoral, principles and virtue; "law," along with "rights" are merely constructs of the human mind. To 2nd paragraph: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Drop the dramatics and taking evrythg he says literally.
IMO "Truth" is greater than a coherence with reason and evidence. True statements refer or connect to the world that we are part of, in ways that are more foundational than our mere understandings of our perceptions and world.
IMO "Good" has a foundational connection with principles beyond mere preference, even if its scope is universal. EG Kindness and Honesty gain their obvious moral weight from something more profound and universal that what we claim to know, and how we know it
5) money is a tool to facilitate trading. It is supposed to get its value from something tangible in the real world. When you go to work and make a 100 bucks is because you created a good or a service worth 100 bucks.
1) I am never fully sure that I have arrived at a conclusion that is true, i have degrees of confidence in the truth of different claims I keep myself inside the sphere of truth by constantly trying falsify that which I consider truth If i succeed then it wasn't true
2) When a course of action is proposed i know that it is good if it leads to well being and evil if it causes suffering.
3) Government is humanities attempt at trying to solve complex social problems using brawn instead of brains
Great talk. I think on money you could be more precise. Fiat money is the things you mention. Money, I believe, SHOULD be (1) a means of valuation (2) a means of exchange (3) a means of savings. Fiat currency and legal tender eliminates 1 and 3 and undermines 2.
I'm not sure I understand all of the animosity in the comments. His questions are perfectly valid and frankly essential. They serve as the pillars of philosophical methodology....define your terms.
@sykeo123 You are quite correct, well done. Would you like a medal for being able to read but lacking the ability to think? If you were told from birth that 2+2=5 you would be very shocked to find out that it really =4 in later life. The idea here is to use your brain to come up with your own definition of a concept of which you already have a certain level of understanding. It's about opening your mind to the endless possibilities and not simply repeating what others have written.
@sykeo123 You are quite correct, well done. Would you like a medal for being able to read but lacking the ability to think? If you were told from birth that 2+2=5 you would be very shocked to find out that it really =4 in later life. The idea here is to use your brain to come up with your own definition of a concept of which you already have a certain level of understanding. It's about opening your mind to the endless possibilities and not simply repeating what others have written.
humans were never meant to rule over themselves , man has dominated man to his injury. humans were designed to live forever. governments hold this system together to stop anarchy . government abuse their authority. this system is run by satan. humans were meant to live forever on a paradise earth.
As David M. Hart writes: "Governments would become political churches, only having jurisdiction over their congregations who had elected to become members."
Did not appreciate this definition of "money." Either completely wrong, or incomplete in that it was not immediately followed by an explanation of the virtues of production-based money. See Ayn Rand's view, as stated in Atlas Shrugged through industrialist Francisco d'Anconia's speech on "The Meaning of Money."
@DrKaoliN No it's not, It's the printing of money. Search "when money dies" on youtube. Or just look up what the federal reserve, and fractional reserve banking, is. Oil peak is comming but it's not quite here yet and can't compete with the inflation caused by massive increases in the money supply. The dollar has actually lost 90% of it's value of the last few decades since it became common to print loads of money.
@SlaveryEvolves What you say makes a lot of sense. Yet those banking derivatives were accepted and calculated by the banks on the idea that there will be infinite energy resources i.e. oil, to back the printing of new money.
Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'll watch "when money dies" :)
You can also search "A Crude Awakening - The Oil Crash (2006)" on youtube.
@DrKaoliN I'm pretty sure I saw it, but even if not I already agree with you that peak oil will almost certainly be a crisis in our life time. However, I think it's worse than you are thinking. The actualy calculate based on the idea that people are ignorant of the oncomming depression (to hit before peek oil) and so they are trying to make money short-term only, which causes problems in it's self, but the mega depression about to hit is due to the death of the currency.
@SlaveryEvolves Well, many argue that we already are at peak oil. This big pyramid scheme which is the economy would still be working if there would be infinite oil resources. Because the crisis began where this infinite growth paradigm clashed with the fact that the oil resources are limited. More people, much more demand, a little less oil - there you have it. Banks cannot go further with their pyramid scheme.
You're much better with your def.'s on law and government. (Though I would point out that your def. of government could apply to dogs and squirrels and fishes, too... pretty much any social animal... and there might be an important point of nature in that!
@intercourseman69 Pretty sure those were adressed by steph in an earlier video If you want to look them up. They do seem better if you have no understanding of the.. .. true effects of government.. true power of the free market.. basically how the world works.
There are precious few behaviors which are universally preferred. That definition of the good means that no action could ever be virtuous - not freeing the slaves, not defeating Hitler, not driving Xerxes out of Athens, not burning the library at Alexandria or dousing the flames at the Serapion... because for every act of virtue or malice in history there are some who would have prefered it happened otherwise.
@ThePeaceableKingdom So, because it would undefine the Defeat of Nazi Germany, you would not try to understand??? And, yes... The ARE few truly moral(universally preferable) actions. To kill a killer will make you also a killer, same as to rob a thief is to become a thief, to bully a bully is to become a bully, and so on... You remember the old saying, "two wrongs don't make a right."????? The problem is that evil cannot be used for good, and that violence is a trap.
But it seems that evil is used for good regularly, like the police marksman who takes out a crazed killer before he can accomplish his intent of slaughtering an innocent 2 year old girl... though the policeman himself becomes a killer. Virtue, like truth, seems to have a meaning independent of opinion, and also one derived from opinion, culture, and perception...
@ThePeaceableKingdom Defense is not initiated, it if force but it is not violence. If the only way to stop someone initiating force is to use force, that is not evil in any part.
Truth is an imprecise term, because it actually refers to two different things: 1) the actual state of things, and 2) our best current understanding of the state of things, which approaches the actual state of things asymptotically (at least so far...). Which is to say, new discoveries are made continuously, knowledge increases, and our known "truths" more accurately describe the *actual* Truth of nature.
@ThePeaceableKingdom You are correct about the truth, just as our knowledge grows our grasp on truth will too. The problem of truth is this: There are very very few universal truths known. We are primitive still, but generation by generation we will adapt our thinking. We have already. And we will continue to. I like that Stefan posts videos that make us debate things like the definition of truth. Keeps us firing on all neurons...lol.
Your definition of truth is inadequate. That the earth is the center of the universe conformed to both evidence and reason - until more evidence was supplied and better reasoning employed. Does it make sense to declare as true that the earth was the physical center of the universe in medieval times (until c.1500) and slowly became a planet in a solar sytem orbiting a galactic nucleus recently? Did that actually occur, or did our estimation of the truth improve?
@darrouken attempting to use a fiction i.e language, in an attempt to find something that is not a fiction is self contradictory. We cannot escape language games. Even my reply is a fiction. We choose to believe in language like we choose to believe in anything.
There are no truths only temporary states of belief. Language is essentially about power. Though this be a belief not a truth. In a fu.... up kind of way everything is an argument of consensus. Though this be clearly false.
@searchforknowledge1 But isn't the claim there is no truth a self contradiction because you claim that it is true and there is no truth? That is a self defeating argument.In modern society nihilism is very common because of the lies we are told as a child a lot of language is non-sense and used for power for example concepts like race, class and government which do not exist but are seen to be moral. If you can solve the contradiction of there is truth and no truth then I'll accept your belief.
@darrouken Your trapped still in language. Language can only create fictions. Yes its disturbing at first. But later on its liberating when you dont feel the need to be right. I only have temporary states of false belief. I have no truths nor the need for them. Im trying to get you to accept nothing. Who takes nihilism to the next step? Textbooks imply nihilism has a negative emotional affect. The exact opposite for me. I am free, temporally.
@searchforknowledge1 By your logic if truth is fiction then your claim is also fiction, therefore it isn't true. So even when I reasoned your claim through your logic there is a contradiction. You still haven't addressed the question I asked which was how can your statement be true if there is no truth? And could you also go into more detail about language being fiction, how do you know and compared to what is language fiction?
@darrouken Truth is a fiction. It is a concept, not a "thing in itself." No one has ever experienced "truth"in such a way. I mean this as no attack on you, but it seems that you have a *moral* qualm regarding this statement. What this amount to, is an imperative that it *shouldn't* be a fiction, according to some evaluation or another. This is common and I think residues of religiosity. That the concept has been of great use to us, there's little doubt, but there's no need to *believe* in it.
@hartforest I totally agree and understand that the abstract concept truth doesn't exist as all concepts have no physically reality. I think I have misunderstood what people meant by truth is fiction... Do you mean concepts don't exist or objective truth(as in rocks fall) doesn't exist? Concepts are tools of language that we use to help understand what we sense, they may not accurately describe it but the actions are happening objectively.
@darrouken Concepts aren't "tools" of language. It's not like language somehow uses concepts, like a wrench here and a screwdriver there. Language *is* conceptual and concepts do not exactly replicate "reality' (another concept). Also, language/concepts change over time. Concepts like "truth" and "object" are no different. Check out their etymology, their history.
@darrouken why concepts u say dont have physical realities?? I think they have and it is an unity of electrosignals in our brains... but yes they're so to say mental sculptures :) if thats what u mean
@darrouken Logic is built upon fictions such as the "law of non-contradiction" which is supposedly the bedrock of logic itself. Yet, this "law's" presuppositions are shaky. One has to either presuppose that there *couldn't* be contradictions in reality, which is a highly questionable assertion at best, particularly if one believes logic and reality correspond; or again, that there *shouldn't* be such contradictions, which is an *imperative,* a command.
@darrouken Yeah thats the point the statement is fiction just like any other statement you can make!!!! I was never saying there was any truth. I dont use it.
@davincij15 Our currect system defines what money is currently. If someone said "slavery is theft and rape" would you say "that's just an effect of the ideology" ?
What is government? Land owners exercising property rights. What is law? It is a contract between a landowner and a tenant. What is money? What use is money when you're always beholden to a landlord? He'll just take all your money from you anyway. Be happy for whatever scraps your landlord throws your way for drinking from his giant cock of lies and working your fingers to the bone for his benefit.
What a load of crap. Not having the time and space to go into all of the many fallacies, inconsitancies and total lack of alternative, lets concentrate on education. I am not saying that the US or any other education system is perfect, but just show me one country, one society in any time of humankind, where general education is better than today without the goverment (or king or whatever who used taxes) was involved. And I mean general, which also means the poor. You live in a dream world.
@seasch71 Every tribe or group (without government or tax, in fact before a government of some other place came to destroy them) in every land, had an education system by which every single member would know all they needed to know about how to live by the time they became of age which was generally around 13. They lived like this for thousands and thousands (if not millions) of years without spoiling the land, water or air. You asked. I answered. Enough said.
@farid1323 Believing in the existance of ghosts or gods and thinking the earth was flat is not education. So if everyone knew, what they needed to know, say in 2'000 BC, why did they then have a life expectancy of 30, a third of what we have today in the civilized world? You answered, yes, but made a fool of yourself.
@seasch71 Earth was flat according to the old ppl's of THIS civilisation not the original ppls of the lands. Same with the life expectancy of 30. If you live in America you should know that the American Indian ppls life expectancy was much higher. If you live in Australia, as I do, then you should know the original ppl's life expectancy was well over 30. I think I've just wasted another 5 minutes of my life :/ I will not make this mistake again. Good day to you. Or night.
@farid1323 Even if they lived in average for 40 years, which I don't have any numbers supporting such a claim, it is half of what we have now in Western Europe, Japan and the USA.
@seasch71 it's shocking isn't it we live less than other apes but have better brains. according to some people humans use to live 20 yrs age 100k B.C even to this day humans die more than any other apes, every society around the world 99% that is depend on currency. the people in africa instead of just farming for free they choose currency since not everyone can have money they die.
@Tethloach1 I don't think, that naturally humans have shorter lifespans than other primates. An average of 20 to 30 with a natural max of around 50 to 60 seems to be the normal lifespan of a primate (humans are primates). I like how Stef and his followers seem to demonize currency and government but fail to offer alternatives. Stef is promoting Ron Paul who is running to be the PotUS. Does Stef really think, that there would be no taxes under RP? When RP is doing the stealing, it is good?
@seasch71 The United States and England for starters. Much has been written on this subject. Children were on average far more literate - including the poor. Education was orders of magnitude cheaper.
@MrFreebie777 Any proof for that? "As late as 1841, 33% of all Englishmen and 44% of Englishwomen signed marriage certificates with their mark as they were unable to write (government-financed public education was not available in England until 1870 and, even then, on a limited basis)." Which means, they couldn't even write their own name. Source wikipedia Literacy in Europe
@seasch71 Firstly, government efforts to suppress literacy itself is proof that literacy was wide spread. Newspaper sales were robust and saw huge increases when "illiteracy taxes" were removed (such as advertising duties 1853, stamp taxes in 1855, and excise taxes on paper in 1861). "No historical myth dies harder than the belief that the modern popular press grew up in direct response to the introduction of state education - Perkins (references will be provided upon request to save time..tbc
@MrFreebie777 I would really love some proof of government efforts to suppress literacy... I tried to find sources (aka the publicised peer-reviewed papers) you base your claims on. After a lot of search on the internet, I only find libertarian bloggers or writers repeating the same claims, mostly with no mention of the sources and when sources are given, they tend to be older than myself (i.e. very old). Not saying, that being old is being faulty, just that it is much more difficult to find
@seasch71 I have already cited enough information on this topic. Taxes on paper, etc. is implicitly suppression of literacy. Literacy rates jumped when newspapers and novelettes began to be mass produced during the mid 19th century. Making these materials more unavailable harms the most vulnerable within society.
@MrFreebie777 papers online and find out more about the research. Concerning the Hull numbers, sources I found on libertarian.co.uk mention 30 % of people having less than three years of educaiton, an other 30 % having less than six and an other 30 %more than six years. I wouldn't call someone literate with less than six years of education, but milage may differ. My four year old nephew can write his name, but again, I would not consider him literate.
@seasch71 Well, first you cite the marriage records of proof of illiteracy. When this is debunked, you question the definition of literacy. I think you must agree that we cannot set the standards for what literacy is and isn't. You are probably referring to "functional illiteracy". The US currently has roughly 15 million functional illiterates and that rate is growing by about 2 million per year. 13% of my state is illiterate by these standards.The "solution" is making things worse.
@MrFreebie777 Again, you (not you personally, but from the utopian libartarian side) claim that the education in the US is so bad and that private companies could do a much better job much cheaper. There seem to exist private schools in the US, so why don't private companies go to the places with bad schools and offer own schools? We have private schools for rich people in Switzerland. If our education system is so bad, why don't private company go and build schools for poor people?
@seasch71 The quality of the education is what one would expect of violence-based schooling: overemphasis on topics which don't matter, completely ignoring that which does matter, and complete disregard for what the students wish to learn. To answer your question more directly, the incredible amount of capital being sucked from households into the public school system is certainly a major contributor of why there aren't more private schools. Again, there are reams of literature on this topic....
@MrFreebie777 I have difficulty taking you serious when you talk about violence-based schooling...
I live in Switzerland. We have private schools (mostly for the rich). So private companies could open schools in poorer parts of Switzerland (where the number of immigrant children from poor households is high), but they don't.
You act as if, private companies would like to offer schools but you can't offer an answer why they are not doing it right now.
@seasch71 I will not shy away from calling things what they are. Forcing kids/parents to go to school at gunpoint paid for by money stolen from them at gunpoint in order to learn things they don't need or aren't interested in is not a solution, it's a holocaust. Private schools are being offered, but the middle class cannot enroll because they must pay for public schools + private schools at the same time. Subtract the cost of public schools and attendance in private schools will skyrocket.
@MrFreebie777 You are a massivly stupid and ignorant person. Comparing free education for all with the slaughter of millions of Jews and other minorities shows lack in intelligence, honesty, deductiv reasoning and/or a lack of morale sence. Before ending my communication with you, I will point out that you did not answer, who would offer equal education to the poor in your Rontard/Ayn Rand utopia. You don't believe in equal rights, if you are rich, you get an education, if not you're fucked.
@seasch71 holocaust: Destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, esp. caused by fire or nuclear war: "a nuclear holocaust". You owe me an apology on this one my friend. I have answered your question several times: school will be available to those who choose to go because it will be affordable and charity will be more available.
@MrFreebie777 Ok, then where are the mass graves of those killed by public education?
The Bush Tax Cuts reduced taxes for the rich for 3.5 trillion USD. Where are the schools which have been build in the last few years due to the Bush Tax Cuts saving the rich those trillions?
@seasch71 Not sure why you ask...Those graves are in Iraq and Afghanistan mostly. Bismark started the system partly to have an obedient populace whom could be bribed/controlled. Public schools brainwash kids regarding into thinking the state is a benevolent organization. They are churning out kids who are nothing more than canon fodder for war. I don't care about Bush's tax cuts - there should be no tax at all. Bush spent more many (i think) than his predecessors, except perhaps Reagan.
@MrFreebie777 So the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed by public education. Stupid me, I thought bombs, guns and other explosives had something to do with it.
@seasch71 I suspect you knew I wasn't speaking in a deconstructionism sense. In this respect, you are absolutely right. However, using this logic we would also be forced to conclude that National Socialism and Communism never killed or helped anyone. Neither did capitalism hurt or help anyone. Nazis never killed Jews, bullets did right?
@MrFreebie777 So it wasn't oil, the military industrial complex, religion, a son trying to impress his dad, nationalism and some other reasons/groups, which pushed for those two wars, but education? Sorry, I just don't see the connection.
Still, you still didn't answer my question, why after a 3.5 trillion USD tax reduction, there was no substancial charity involving education of the poor.
@seasch71 I agree with a lot of this, but let's not confuse cause and effect. The MIC wouldn't exist if we didn't have a population so complacent and willing to submit to arbitrary authority - thanks to public schooling. Now raise your had and say the pledge... A son trying to impress his dad? Why would the dad be impressed? Why is he so patriotic? Nationalism? None of that in public schools, right? Let me understand your point: you don't think that a kid indoctrinated for 14 years....
@MrFreebie777 I have absolutely answered your question on the charity involving education of the poor on multiple occasions. Everyone (including you) wrongly thinks that the poor are being educated, therefore there is no movement to have them properly taught. You are just going to have to try reading my posts. For my part, I am strongly advocating for the poor and donate to organizations which offer free education on a variety of subjects. Freedomain Radio is one of them.
@seasch71 in a school where ethics are not discussed for fear of exposing that the teacher's salary comes from mass theft... where thoughts are prepackaged and social science and history have the govt seal of approval....you don't see how implicitly saying "violence is good" for 14 years along with a focus on nationalism gets people killed? Really?
@seasch71 Why are you so angry and abusive? I have demonstrated solid reasoning skills and showed strong ethical tendencies due to my desire for the most vulnerable in our society to receive a fair shake. I have clearly presented powerful facts and have been kind to you. Now that you are losing the debate you are resorting to ad hominems. I believe we should treat everyone equally - we should never initiate violence against someone else regardless of who they are.
@MrFreebie777 You claim to have "solid reasoning skills" and "strong ehical tendencies" and still feel it is right to compare the mass-murder and dehumanization of millions with public education for everyone? What ad hominem? Acc. to Merriam Webster an ad hominem attack is either a) appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect (which I didn't do) or b) an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made. Which I didn't do.
@seasch71 It's getting frustrating for me that you are not reading my posts. The term is commonly used outside of the Jewish experience. It has nothing to do with Germany/Jews.
@MrFreebie777 The idea that those poor household could pay for school if they were taxed less contradicts libertarian claims that 50 percent don't pay taxes at all.
So even if tax rates were zero, which according to some RP supporters they already are for the poor, reducing taxes for the poor would not change the status of the poor.
Ergo private companies should open schools for the poor, but don't.
@seasch71 I don't follow your logic here. The truly poor would need to pay for anything. It would be done by charity and non-for-profits. Also, we must differentiate between payroll tax and taxes on everyday items. There would in fact be more money available for education if there were no government due to the incredible amount of waste/theft involved.
@MrFreebie777 I don't blame private companies. Their aim is to make money. And there is no money to be made by offering education to people who can't pay for it.
@seasch71 Why the fuck do you need the government when you will pay for the poor along with other people who claim to? remove the middle man already since you care so much besides kids can take it online its a lot cheaper.
@seasch71 Only partly true.You can make money having other people pay for it - charity. Additionally, not-for-profits can also fill in the gaps as they have in the England and the US prior to Public Schools.
@MrFreebie777 Again. you still don't answer my question. Why isn't there enough charity to give poor in the US a proper education today? History and the reality of today shows, that there isn't enough charity to give everyone a good education.
@seasch71 You are clearly not reading the posts. The poor have been "educated" by the public schools. Illiteracy is now rampant. History shows that in the absence of public schools, there will be enough charity (especially with our productive output now) for everyone who wishes to go. If you wish me to show cost for school prior to 1870 compared with cost for school now relative to today's purchasing power I will be happy to.
@MrFreebie777 Costs went up, true. Education today is longer and better than it ever was. Still public schools only cost a fraction of the costs of the private schools, at least in Switzerland, where I got the numbers.
@seasch71 Longer does not mean better. I don't mean this in any derogatory sense, but you don't understand economic theory if you think cost means bill #1 vs. bill #2. There are tremendous hidden costs with government overhead.
@seasch71 To clarify, someone with a gun decides for you how long you will be in school and what you will study regardless of your interests or career choice (if any). This can never ever ever be better. Violence is not a solution for complex social problems, especially when the "problem" was fabricated in the first place.
@seasch71 "I don't blame private companies. Their aim is to make money. And there is no money to be made by offering education to people who can't pay for it."
If company had a sign on their product that stated they donate 1% of their profits to educating poor children and other companies who sold a similar product didn't, which company would you buy from?
@seasch71 .... dating back to the 19th century and there is little doubt that school costs have increased as a result and that public schools are to blame.
@seasch71 In the 1838 report on the Training of Pauper Children in workhouse, 87% of English children could read. 1839, a AHW commissioners report showed shoploom weavers in Glouestershire had only 15 out of 195 who were illiterate. A special survey of the reading and writing abilities of the city of Hull in 1839 showed found that of the 14,526 adults, 14,109 had attend day or night school and that only 1,054 couldn't read - 92% could read.TBC...
@seasch71 By the 1860's 9/10 of the population was literate. One area this reflected is military records. In the Navy and Marine 1865 report, 99% of the boys inducted could read compared with existing seaman 89%,Marines 80%, and Officers 94%. Literacy was growing thanks to the increased wealth brought about by the industrial revolution. To attribute any increase of literacy beyond this point is to public schooling is to commit a post hoc ergo propter hoc. TBC...
@seasch71 Sorry, forgot to reply to your initial post. This marriage certificate quote from Prof. Glass needs to be considered more deeply. Firstly, does he imply that the rate of change in the prov. of education was faster in the 90 years subsequent to 1870 than in the 30 years between 1840 and 1870? An increase from 66 to 80 percent of men able to sign their names over a 30 year period of significant population increase is surely a great rate of change compared with an increase...
@seasch71 ...from 80 to 100% at most over a later 90 year period. More important, this doesnt reflect a schooling gap in 1870. The Registrar General indicates that these men left school 17 years earlier which means this is roughly reflective of the 1850s. You now are looking at a personality type - subset of society rather than a broader swath of the population. A better way to estimate literacy at this time (the Forster provisions) is the 1891 census. 6.4 % of men signed with their mark...tbc
@seasch71 ... ... and 7.3% of women did as well. Long story short, if we are to accept the marriage signature test and that illiteracy is the result of a schooling gap, then we should conclude that 93% of school leavers were already literate when the 1870 Board Schools first began to operate.
@MrFreebie777 I would really like to see some numbers, because those I found on the net, seen to show that a huge part of blacks had no education and most women had no education.
@seasch71 The internet is way better than government schools if i had the choice of government schools or the internet you know who wins. Don't talk about the poor when you haven't been to inner city schools alright just fuck off with that poor crap.
@Tethloach1 Because the internet offers free porn and school doesn't? /irony off
What makes you believe, that the internet provides better education than schools?
I am not against the internet, but with Kim Kardashian getting 300'000'000 hits and the Battle of Hastings four percent, I hightly doubt your statement.
Not sure what to make with your last comment, might have helped, if you had spent more time learning than surfing the internet and looking at lolcatz...
@Tethloach1 I am not saying that the internet has less useful information than what public school teach. The problem with the internet is that it also has a lot, and I am meaning A LOT of rubbish informations, like birthers, truthers, yeti-sightings, UFOs, inteligent desing, religion, etc. etc.
The internet does to a certain extent, level the playing field. Any idiot can, with no research and very little effort promote a thesis on the internet. Inteligent design should not be part of education
@seasch71 Public schools don't teach kids how to think they teach them what to think. Imagine an online school that for every teacher 10,000 students. it would save a lot of money and it can, kids would learn better, it would be 1 on 1 the teacher would be right in thier face and they can always replay the vids. religions should be taught so kids can see that they are full of crap not one but all Islam,christianity,judaism, kids will see and become skeptics. Government schools aren't worth it.
I can think of two more important questions to me right off the bat. What is liberation -because if you know how 2 self liberate and
liberate from conditioning then you know how 2 be free of governments, money and all concepts. Ultimate importance. 2nd-What is the mind-all YT videos are products of the mind. But what is it?. Understand mind then need not live in mental poverty or traps
Everyone's opinions = conditioning however if you know the mind
@indignant99 Money: haves and have nots always. everyone can't have money. bartering seems safer than money because you put value in a piece of paper now your life depends on having some of that paper= house bills, food, clothing, transportation, entertainment. The government is running a pyramid scheme with money. Communism shows why government money fails quickly. Socialist/capitalist societies take a bit longer.
keep on spreading philosophy stef. I spent around a year trying to justify statist philosophy to myself, and I really wish I could because it would make life so much easier.
About once every 6 months I still say to myself "ok this guy cannot be right and everyone else wrong, I just have to figure out where he's wrong"
@Tethloach1 Yeah I almost feel I got randomly lucky that I am open minded and able to see the truth unlike the majority of people who just dismiss it because of their emotionally reactions to reason and evidence due to damaged brains...Although sometimes I think people who are oblivious to the world lead happier lives.
@karthadastim that's the thing the more information us truth loving reason loving people have the more something doesn't feel right like religion, church, hypocrisy, and even BS theories.
1. Truth found from scientific methodology, in physics,chemistry,biology, which rely on mathematics for deductive logical answers to problems.virtue, is what is good for you personally, and not harmful to other people. 3. Government is a business, which is involved in stealing people's income, so basically legalised robbery. 4. Money, is a fiat currency in a state society. 5.Law is revenge.
That was a good description of what money is in a statist society, but what is money in the free market?
DeterministicOne 5 days ago
Lots of common sense and pure wisdom here from Stef. Fantastic video A++
pmsan29 3 weeks ago
i think the host only wants to talk to you if you see it his way.?!
vishee2906 1 month ago
@vishee2906 I don't think so...
tonyfalca 3 weeks ago
@tonyfalca well isn't that good for.you
vishee2906 3 weeks ago
@vishee2906 It's just my opinion, like how the opinion you've mentioned is yours, and as you felt like sharing your opinion, I did too. :)
tonyfalca 3 weeks ago
I love how Stephan says that the government and authoritarion figures teaches conclusions and how not to think comprehesively and then Stephan asks the most important questions...And then gives the conclusions..
Spencerianism 1 month ago
"Law is an opinion with a gun"... Spot on.
tomzorz88 1 month ago 19
@tomzorz88 Better said than I've ever heard it before!
tonyfalca 3 weeks ago
Damn this guy sounds like me computer's text to speech lol.
victor44784 1 month ago
Stefbot has changed my life :)
spystyle 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos 16
Very good video providing 'GIST' of what people have to deal with in their daily lives.
One must also remember that despite all the laws crime is unabated including from top Political power to people. Therefore, the internal law governing self is most important asset/deed that these external laws fails to address therefore we see rise in crime/police-state/corruption/injustice/growing-apathy as we keep losing virtues/ethics!
sjsrana 1 month ago
Love your stuff Stef, keep up the good work and have a great yr.
siziam 1 month ago
"Start thinking" brilliant work Stef. You're really getting off to a good start this year.
renegade2142 1 month ago 4
If there isn't some sort of commemorative, indestructible bust of stef's big shinny head and the associated wisdom within, there should be one.
tails22x 1 month ago
STEFAN FREAKING MOLENUEx! you should totally hire/designate, or at least think of something close to making something/someone become a teacher, or work on an artifface!!! Something that works on everyday problems people have (like the sunday call-in show) I always have too many questions to ask when I think of them (during my day) and i can't wait for the call-in show or find my own answers. You need a more practical guide for UPB! PLEASWE!
TheBookArchive 1 month ago
@TheBookArchive Or you should make your own tests and stuff, and have practice sheets etc. Why not? crosswords...all that stuff buddy.
I'll donate on someting like that for damn sure!
TheBookArchive 1 month ago
hay steph i think you are a little to intellectual for this crowd they just don't get it? the knowledge you have is inspiring and true, but how do you get it across to the masses? maybe a comedy duo would help, some humor a double act? as always it made complete sense to me.
regards Gezza
gezzazoom 1 month ago
Before the expense of another cent, ask all candidates:
The two most important questions that must be answered:
Where is the written "yes we can plan"
From whence shall the net, net , net profit come from to pay off the corp/govt. debts already incurred.
pitofdoom1 1 month ago
This should be the 5 commandments. Now lets get rid of the 10 that are erroneous.
Spencerianism 1 month ago 2
Government is how many people? 200? 400? And they are in office for what, 10 years? 5 years? Do you really think they can control everything like you described?
And who proposes the laws? Are all humans who ever propose a law some kind of goverment agents, with no idea of morality? Or no interest to do good and contribute to happiness of society?
Are all individual teachers really such puppets of the covernment? Do all of them really strive to hide these answers from students?
bary1234 1 month ago
@bary1234 The phrase "control everything" is very vague. Even if that's the wording he used, obviously he didn't mean it literally. Acting like he did (applies to the rest of your comment as well) is a lame tactic. Who said anything about laws? There's only moral and immoral, principles and virtue; "law," along with "rights" are merely constructs of the human mind. To 2nd paragraph: The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Drop the dramatics and taking evrythg he says literally.
regresseur 1 month ago
@regresseur : -Ok: "Do you think they can control all the things you think they control."
- 11:52 "What is law." This dude in the video talks about laws. Did you actually look at the clip before you started to comment to me?
-There is no hell, and what are you trying to say here? That some good intentions fail? So fucking what?
bary1234 1 month ago
Hi
IMO "Truth" is greater than a coherence with reason and evidence. True statements refer or connect to the world that we are part of, in ways that are more foundational than our mere understandings of our perceptions and world.
IMO "Good" has a foundational connection with principles beyond mere preference, even if its scope is universal. EG Kindness and Honesty gain their obvious moral weight from something more profound and universal that what we claim to know, and how we know it
Mat:)
matsalted 1 month ago
Stef, truth is equvailent to your boundless HUBRIS.
vita9n 1 month ago
PURE BRILLIANCE! Thanks, Stef!
gerloczyek 1 month ago
4)Laws are rules
5) money is a tool to facilitate trading. It is supposed to get its value from something tangible in the real world. When you go to work and make a 100 bucks is because you created a good or a service worth 100 bucks.
sonofagunM357 1 month ago
1) I am never fully sure that I have arrived at a conclusion that is true, i have degrees of confidence in the truth of different claims I keep myself inside the sphere of truth by constantly trying falsify that which I consider truth If i succeed then it wasn't true
2) When a course of action is proposed i know that it is good if it leads to well being and evil if it causes suffering.
3) Government is humanities attempt at trying to solve complex social problems using brawn instead of brains
sonofagunM357 1 month ago
Best video of stef's i have seen so far.
necrom666 1 month ago
Great talk. I think on money you could be more precise. Fiat money is the things you mention. Money, I believe, SHOULD be (1) a means of valuation (2) a means of exchange (3) a means of savings. Fiat currency and legal tender eliminates 1 and 3 and undermines 2.
gaussboys 1 month ago in playlist More videos from stefbot
I'm not sure I understand all of the animosity in the comments. His questions are perfectly valid and frankly essential. They serve as the pillars of philosophical methodology....define your terms.
12Culloden 1 month ago
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@sykeo123 You are quite correct, well done. Would you like a medal for being able to read but lacking the ability to think? If you were told from birth that 2+2=5 you would be very shocked to find out that it really =4 in later life. The idea here is to use your brain to come up with your own definition of a concept of which you already have a certain level of understanding. It's about opening your mind to the endless possibilities and not simply repeating what others have written.
garrethdavis 1 month ago
@sykeo123 You are quite correct, well done. Would you like a medal for being able to read but lacking the ability to think? If you were told from birth that 2+2=5 you would be very shocked to find out that it really =4 in later life. The idea here is to use your brain to come up with your own definition of a concept of which you already have a certain level of understanding. It's about opening your mind to the endless possibilities and not simply repeating what others have written.
garrethdavis 1 month ago
I still laughing at this moron
He needs to buy a dictionary
sykeo123 1 month ago
we are the aliens, spirit realm has existed for a long time before us, we are all involved in a universal issue of sovereignty .
fridge1914 1 month ago
there is only ONE universal truth. human opinions are irrelevant to absolute truth.
fridge1914 1 month ago
@fridge1914 I guess "there is only one universal truth" is not a universal truth then.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
humans were never meant to rule over themselves , man has dominated man to his injury. humans were designed to live forever. governments hold this system together to stop anarchy . government abuse their authority. this system is run by satan. humans were meant to live forever on a paradise earth.
fridge1914 1 month ago
As David M. Hart writes: "Governments would become political churches, only having jurisdiction over their congregations who had elected to become members."
cohnkrad 1 month ago
today you remind me of Captain Kirk....
erbeeflower 1 month ago
excellent Stefan!
egdirt 1 month ago
Did not appreciate this definition of "money." Either completely wrong, or incomplete in that it was not immediately followed by an explanation of the virtues of production-based money. See Ayn Rand's view, as stated in Atlas Shrugged through industrialist Francisco d'Anconia's speech on "The Meaning of Money."
markcoldren 1 month ago 2
What about the Oil Peak? Isn't it the reason for the current economical and social crisis?
DrKaoliN 1 month ago
@DrKaoliN No it's not, It's the printing of money. Search "when money dies" on youtube. Or just look up what the federal reserve, and fractional reserve banking, is. Oil peak is comming but it's not quite here yet and can't compete with the inflation caused by massive increases in the money supply. The dollar has actually lost 90% of it's value of the last few decades since it became common to print loads of money.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
@SlaveryEvolves What you say makes a lot of sense. Yet those banking derivatives were accepted and calculated by the banks on the idea that there will be infinite energy resources i.e. oil, to back the printing of new money.
Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'll watch "when money dies" :)
You can also search "A Crude Awakening - The Oil Crash (2006)" on youtube.
DrKaoliN 1 month ago
@DrKaoliN I'm pretty sure I saw it, but even if not I already agree with you that peak oil will almost certainly be a crisis in our life time. However, I think it's worse than you are thinking. The actualy calculate based on the idea that people are ignorant of the oncomming depression (to hit before peek oil) and so they are trying to make money short-term only, which causes problems in it's self, but the mega depression about to hit is due to the death of the currency.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
@SlaveryEvolves Well, many argue that we already are at peak oil. This big pyramid scheme which is the economy would still be working if there would be infinite oil resources. Because the crisis began where this infinite growth paradigm clashed with the fact that the oil resources are limited. More people, much more demand, a little less oil - there you have it. Banks cannot go further with their pyramid scheme.
DrKaoliN 1 month ago
Stef, what do you think about polycentric law?
shaurz 1 month ago
Again, frightening right on spot.
TerrierBram 1 month ago
You're much better with your def.'s on law and government. (Though I would point out that your def. of government could apply to dogs and squirrels and fishes, too... pretty much any social animal... and there might be an important point of nature in that!
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
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Again, frightening right on spot.
TerrierBram 1 month ago
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Again, frightening right on spot.
TerrierBram 1 month ago
Again, frightening right on spot.
TerrierBram 1 month ago
i don't know, i think Jon Stewart's 19 hard questions for libertarians rival these questions as far as importance and profound implications.
I am referring to questions like "do you want to go back to 1890?"
Just brilliant.
intercourseman69 1 month ago
@intercourseman69 Did you see Stefan's responses to Jon Stewart's 19 questions? He knocked em out of the park!
vanraizen 1 month ago
@intercourseman69 Pretty sure those were adressed by steph in an earlier video If you want to look them up. They do seem better if you have no understanding of the.. .. true effects of government.. true power of the free market.. basically how the world works.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
There are precious few behaviors which are universally preferred. That definition of the good means that no action could ever be virtuous - not freeing the slaves, not defeating Hitler, not driving Xerxes out of Athens, not burning the library at Alexandria or dousing the flames at the Serapion... because for every act of virtue or malice in history there are some who would have prefered it happened otherwise.
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
@ThePeaceableKingdom So, because it would undefine the Defeat of Nazi Germany, you would not try to understand??? And, yes... The ARE few truly moral(universally preferable) actions. To kill a killer will make you also a killer, same as to rob a thief is to become a thief, to bully a bully is to become a bully, and so on... You remember the old saying, "two wrongs don't make a right."????? The problem is that evil cannot be used for good, and that violence is a trap.
rockoutmichigan 1 month ago
@rockoutmichigan Oh, I'll try to understand...
But it seems that evil is used for good regularly, like the police marksman who takes out a crazed killer before he can accomplish his intent of slaughtering an innocent 2 year old girl... though the policeman himself becomes a killer. Virtue, like truth, seems to have a meaning independent of opinion, and also one derived from opinion, culture, and perception...
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
@ThePeaceableKingdom Defense is not initiated, it if force but it is not violence. If the only way to stop someone initiating force is to use force, that is not evil in any part.
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
I love you Steph!
01downside 1 month ago
(cont)
So I'll play.
Truth is an imprecise term, because it actually refers to two different things: 1) the actual state of things, and 2) our best current understanding of the state of things, which approaches the actual state of things asymptotically (at least so far...). Which is to say, new discoveries are made continuously, knowledge increases, and our known "truths" more accurately describe the *actual* Truth of nature.
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
@ThePeaceableKingdom You are correct about the truth, just as our knowledge grows our grasp on truth will too. The problem of truth is this: There are very very few universal truths known. We are primitive still, but generation by generation we will adapt our thinking. We have already. And we will continue to. I like that Stefan posts videos that make us debate things like the definition of truth. Keeps us firing on all neurons...lol.
rockoutmichigan 1 month ago 2
@rockoutmichigan Hi, thanks for the reply. On this one, I think we're mostly in agreement...
And Stefan's vids do make you think. They're usually worth watching...
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
Your definition of truth is inadequate. That the earth is the center of the universe conformed to both evidence and reason - until more evidence was supplied and better reasoning employed. Does it make sense to declare as true that the earth was the physical center of the universe in medieval times (until c.1500) and slowly became a planet in a solar sytem orbiting a galactic nucleus recently? Did that actually occur, or did our estimation of the truth improve?
ThePeaceableKingdom 1 month ago
1=The truth is fiction
2=A fictional concept presenting itself as truth
3=A way to manipulate others that your fiction = truth
4=Consists of 1,2,3,4 and 5.
5=A fictional value
searchforknowledge1 1 month ago
@searchforknowledge1 Truth is fiction? If nothing is true, is that claim true?
darrouken 1 month ago
@darrouken attempting to use a fiction i.e language, in an attempt to find something that is not a fiction is self contradictory. We cannot escape language games. Even my reply is a fiction. We choose to believe in language like we choose to believe in anything.
There are no truths only temporary states of belief. Language is essentially about power. Though this be a belief not a truth. In a fu.... up kind of way everything is an argument of consensus. Though this be clearly false.
searchforknowledge1 1 month ago
@searchforknowledge1 But isn't the claim there is no truth a self contradiction because you claim that it is true and there is no truth? That is a self defeating argument.In modern society nihilism is very common because of the lies we are told as a child a lot of language is non-sense and used for power for example concepts like race, class and government which do not exist but are seen to be moral. If you can solve the contradiction of there is truth and no truth then I'll accept your belief.
darrouken 1 month ago
@darrouken Your trapped still in language. Language can only create fictions. Yes its disturbing at first. But later on its liberating when you dont feel the need to be right. I only have temporary states of false belief. I have no truths nor the need for them. Im trying to get you to accept nothing. Who takes nihilism to the next step? Textbooks imply nihilism has a negative emotional affect. The exact opposite for me. I am free, temporally.
searchforknowledge1 1 month ago
@searchforknowledge1 By your logic if truth is fiction then your claim is also fiction, therefore it isn't true. So even when I reasoned your claim through your logic there is a contradiction. You still haven't addressed the question I asked which was how can your statement be true if there is no truth? And could you also go into more detail about language being fiction, how do you know and compared to what is language fiction?
darrouken 1 month ago
@darrouken Truth is a fiction. It is a concept, not a "thing in itself." No one has ever experienced "truth"in such a way. I mean this as no attack on you, but it seems that you have a *moral* qualm regarding this statement. What this amount to, is an imperative that it *shouldn't* be a fiction, according to some evaluation or another. This is common and I think residues of religiosity. That the concept has been of great use to us, there's little doubt, but there's no need to *believe* in it.
hartforest 1 month ago
@hartforest I totally agree and understand that the abstract concept truth doesn't exist as all concepts have no physically reality. I think I have misunderstood what people meant by truth is fiction... Do you mean concepts don't exist or objective truth(as in rocks fall) doesn't exist? Concepts are tools of language that we use to help understand what we sense, they may not accurately describe it but the actions are happening objectively.
darrouken 1 month ago
@darrouken Concepts aren't "tools" of language. It's not like language somehow uses concepts, like a wrench here and a screwdriver there. Language *is* conceptual and concepts do not exactly replicate "reality' (another concept). Also, language/concepts change over time. Concepts like "truth" and "object" are no different. Check out their etymology, their history.
hartforest 1 month ago
@hartforest For one certain their are no truths, you seem very certain of your assertions :)
leafwatch 1 month ago 2
@leafwatch So the only truth is there is no truth... come on! hahaah
DanKennedyAuctions 1 month ago
@leafwatch Hmmm. Did I say "their (sic) are no truths?" No, I didn't. I said truths are fictions. :-)
hartforest 1 month ago
@hartforest Language is alive and breathing!
tonyfalca 3 weeks ago
@darrouken why concepts u say dont have physical realities?? I think they have and it is an unity of electrosignals in our brains... but yes they're so to say mental sculptures :) if thats what u mean
onxiaftw 1 month ago
@darrouken Logic is built upon fictions such as the "law of non-contradiction" which is supposedly the bedrock of logic itself. Yet, this "law's" presuppositions are shaky. One has to either presuppose that there *couldn't* be contradictions in reality, which is a highly questionable assertion at best, particularly if one believes logic and reality correspond; or again, that there *shouldn't* be such contradictions, which is an *imperative,* a command.
hartforest 1 month ago
@darrouken Yeah thats the point the statement is fiction just like any other statement you can make!!!! I was never saying there was any truth. I dont use it.
searchforknowledge1 1 month ago
"I dunno man, go look it up on wikipedia"
Boogenhiemer 1 month ago
IMO the answer to what is money was poor because his definition focused on effects and problems of our current currency system.
davincij15 1 month ago
@davincij15 Our currect system defines what money is currently. If someone said "slavery is theft and rape" would you say "that's just an effect of the ideology" ?
SlaveryEvolves 1 month ago
yeah, did philosophy 16-18
IFE10M 1 month ago
What is government? Land owners exercising property rights. What is law? It is a contract between a landowner and a tenant. What is money? What use is money when you're always beholden to a landlord? He'll just take all your money from you anyway. Be happy for whatever scraps your landlord throws your way for drinking from his giant cock of lies and working your fingers to the bone for his benefit.
LeksServices 1 month ago
@stefbot answers,
1.What is Truth?Reason & Evidence.-The Holly Bible, it is here with a reason so it's a Truth.
2.What is Good?Universally preferable behaviour and theories... -Unselfishness or Jang
3.What is government? 11:34 It's a shadow to integrate the evil in us. A devil that separate us.
4.What is law? 11:49 Law is fear or Jin
5.What is money? 12:13 Money is a tape measure or a clock.
To become as one we have to change 3. And forget on 5 - forever.
TheQorL 1 month ago
Spot on!
causechange 1 month ago
What a load of crap. Not having the time and space to go into all of the many fallacies, inconsitancies and total lack of alternative, lets concentrate on education. I am not saying that the US or any other education system is perfect, but just show me one country, one society in any time of humankind, where general education is better than today without the goverment (or king or whatever who used taxes) was involved. And I mean general, which also means the poor. You live in a dream world.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Every tribe or group (without government or tax, in fact before a government of some other place came to destroy them) in every land, had an education system by which every single member would know all they needed to know about how to live by the time they became of age which was generally around 13. They lived like this for thousands and thousands (if not millions) of years without spoiling the land, water or air. You asked. I answered. Enough said.
farid1323 1 month ago
@farid1323 Believing in the existance of ghosts or gods and thinking the earth was flat is not education. So if everyone knew, what they needed to know, say in 2'000 BC, why did they then have a life expectancy of 30, a third of what we have today in the civilized world? You answered, yes, but made a fool of yourself.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Earth was flat according to the old ppl's of THIS civilisation not the original ppls of the lands. Same with the life expectancy of 30. If you live in America you should know that the American Indian ppls life expectancy was much higher. If you live in Australia, as I do, then you should know the original ppl's life expectancy was well over 30. I think I've just wasted another 5 minutes of my life :/ I will not make this mistake again. Good day to you. Or night.
farid1323 1 month ago
@farid1323 Even if they lived in average for 40 years, which I don't have any numbers supporting such a claim, it is half of what we have now in Western Europe, Japan and the USA.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 it's shocking isn't it we live less than other apes but have better brains. according to some people humans use to live 20 yrs age 100k B.C even to this day humans die more than any other apes, every society around the world 99% that is depend on currency. the people in africa instead of just farming for free they choose currency since not everyone can have money they die.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
@Tethloach1 I don't think, that naturally humans have shorter lifespans than other primates. An average of 20 to 30 with a natural max of around 50 to 60 seems to be the normal lifespan of a primate (humans are primates). I like how Stef and his followers seem to demonize currency and government but fail to offer alternatives. Stef is promoting Ron Paul who is running to be the PotUS. Does Stef really think, that there would be no taxes under RP? When RP is doing the stealing, it is good?
seasch71 1 month ago
Would you check the comments you write for logical fallacies please. You appear to care about such matters, so be fair please. Thanks!.
zionite111 1 month ago
@seasch71 The United States and England for starters. Much has been written on this subject. Children were on average far more literate - including the poor. Education was orders of magnitude cheaper.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 Any proof for that? "As late as 1841, 33% of all Englishmen and 44% of Englishwomen signed marriage certificates with their mark as they were unable to write (government-financed public education was not available in England until 1870 and, even then, on a limited basis)." Which means, they couldn't even write their own name. Source wikipedia Literacy in Europe
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Yes, I will post some information when I get home tonight.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 Firstly, government efforts to suppress literacy itself is proof that literacy was wide spread. Newspaper sales were robust and saw huge increases when "illiteracy taxes" were removed (such as advertising duties 1853, stamp taxes in 1855, and excise taxes on paper in 1861). "No historical myth dies harder than the belief that the modern popular press grew up in direct response to the introduction of state education - Perkins (references will be provided upon request to save time..tbc
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 I would really love some proof of government efforts to suppress literacy... I tried to find sources (aka the publicised peer-reviewed papers) you base your claims on. After a lot of search on the internet, I only find libertarian bloggers or writers repeating the same claims, mostly with no mention of the sources and when sources are given, they tend to be older than myself (i.e. very old). Not saying, that being old is being faulty, just that it is much more difficult to find
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 I have already cited enough information on this topic. Taxes on paper, etc. is implicitly suppression of literacy. Literacy rates jumped when newspapers and novelettes began to be mass produced during the mid 19th century. Making these materials more unavailable harms the most vulnerable within society.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 papers online and find out more about the research. Concerning the Hull numbers, sources I found on libertarian.co.uk mention 30 % of people having less than three years of educaiton, an other 30 % having less than six and an other 30 %more than six years. I wouldn't call someone literate with less than six years of education, but milage may differ. My four year old nephew can write his name, but again, I would not consider him literate.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Well, first you cite the marriage records of proof of illiteracy. When this is debunked, you question the definition of literacy. I think you must agree that we cannot set the standards for what literacy is and isn't. You are probably referring to "functional illiteracy". The US currently has roughly 15 million functional illiterates and that rate is growing by about 2 million per year. 13% of my state is illiterate by these standards.The "solution" is making things worse.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 Again, you (not you personally, but from the utopian libartarian side) claim that the education in the US is so bad and that private companies could do a much better job much cheaper. There seem to exist private schools in the US, so why don't private companies go to the places with bad schools and offer own schools? We have private schools for rich people in Switzerland. If our education system is so bad, why don't private company go and build schools for poor people?
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 The quality of the education is what one would expect of violence-based schooling: overemphasis on topics which don't matter, completely ignoring that which does matter, and complete disregard for what the students wish to learn. To answer your question more directly, the incredible amount of capital being sucked from households into the public school system is certainly a major contributor of why there aren't more private schools. Again, there are reams of literature on this topic....
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 I have difficulty taking you serious when you talk about violence-based schooling...
I live in Switzerland. We have private schools (mostly for the rich). So private companies could open schools in poorer parts of Switzerland (where the number of immigrant children from poor households is high), but they don't.
You act as if, private companies would like to offer schools but you can't offer an answer why they are not doing it right now.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 I will not shy away from calling things what they are. Forcing kids/parents to go to school at gunpoint paid for by money stolen from them at gunpoint in order to learn things they don't need or aren't interested in is not a solution, it's a holocaust. Private schools are being offered, but the middle class cannot enroll because they must pay for public schools + private schools at the same time. Subtract the cost of public schools and attendance in private schools will skyrocket.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 You are a massivly stupid and ignorant person. Comparing free education for all with the slaughter of millions of Jews and other minorities shows lack in intelligence, honesty, deductiv reasoning and/or a lack of morale sence. Before ending my communication with you, I will point out that you did not answer, who would offer equal education to the poor in your Rontard/Ayn Rand utopia. You don't believe in equal rights, if you are rich, you get an education, if not you're fucked.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 holocaust: Destruction or slaughter on a mass scale, esp. caused by fire or nuclear war: "a nuclear holocaust". You owe me an apology on this one my friend. I have answered your question several times: school will be available to those who choose to go because it will be affordable and charity will be more available.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 Ok, then where are the mass graves of those killed by public education?
The Bush Tax Cuts reduced taxes for the rich for 3.5 trillion USD. Where are the schools which have been build in the last few years due to the Bush Tax Cuts saving the rich those trillions?
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Not sure why you ask...Those graves are in Iraq and Afghanistan mostly. Bismark started the system partly to have an obedient populace whom could be bribed/controlled. Public schools brainwash kids regarding into thinking the state is a benevolent organization. They are churning out kids who are nothing more than canon fodder for war. I don't care about Bush's tax cuts - there should be no tax at all. Bush spent more many (i think) than his predecessors, except perhaps Reagan.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 So the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan were killed by public education. Stupid me, I thought bombs, guns and other explosives had something to do with it.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 I suspect you knew I wasn't speaking in a deconstructionism sense. In this respect, you are absolutely right. However, using this logic we would also be forced to conclude that National Socialism and Communism never killed or helped anyone. Neither did capitalism hurt or help anyone. Nazis never killed Jews, bullets did right?
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 So it wasn't oil, the military industrial complex, religion, a son trying to impress his dad, nationalism and some other reasons/groups, which pushed for those two wars, but education? Sorry, I just don't see the connection.
Still, you still didn't answer my question, why after a 3.5 trillion USD tax reduction, there was no substancial charity involving education of the poor.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 I agree with a lot of this, but let's not confuse cause and effect. The MIC wouldn't exist if we didn't have a population so complacent and willing to submit to arbitrary authority - thanks to public schooling. Now raise your had and say the pledge... A son trying to impress his dad? Why would the dad be impressed? Why is he so patriotic? Nationalism? None of that in public schools, right? Let me understand your point: you don't think that a kid indoctrinated for 14 years....
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 I have absolutely answered your question on the charity involving education of the poor on multiple occasions. Everyone (including you) wrongly thinks that the poor are being educated, therefore there is no movement to have them properly taught. You are just going to have to try reading my posts. For my part, I am strongly advocating for the poor and donate to organizations which offer free education on a variety of subjects. Freedomain Radio is one of them.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 in a school where ethics are not discussed for fear of exposing that the teacher's salary comes from mass theft... where thoughts are prepackaged and social science and history have the govt seal of approval....you don't see how implicitly saying "violence is good" for 14 years along with a focus on nationalism gets people killed? Really?
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 I'm also waiting for an apology regarding your unjustified verbal abuse.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 Why are you so angry and abusive? I have demonstrated solid reasoning skills and showed strong ethical tendencies due to my desire for the most vulnerable in our society to receive a fair shake. I have clearly presented powerful facts and have been kind to you. Now that you are losing the debate you are resorting to ad hominems. I believe we should treat everyone equally - we should never initiate violence against someone else regardless of who they are.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 You claim to have "solid reasoning skills" and "strong ehical tendencies" and still feel it is right to compare the mass-murder and dehumanization of millions with public education for everyone? What ad hominem? Acc. to Merriam Webster an ad hominem attack is either a) appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect (which I didn't do) or b) an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made. Which I didn't do.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 It's getting frustrating for me that you are not reading my posts. The term is commonly used outside of the Jewish experience. It has nothing to do with Germany/Jews.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 So please apologize for jumping to conclusions or explain you lack of knowledge about common usages of the word.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 The idea that those poor household could pay for school if they were taxed less contradicts libertarian claims that 50 percent don't pay taxes at all.
So even if tax rates were zero, which according to some RP supporters they already are for the poor, reducing taxes for the poor would not change the status of the poor.
Ergo private companies should open schools for the poor, but don't.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 I don't follow your logic here. The truly poor would need to pay for anything. It would be done by charity and non-for-profits. Also, we must differentiate between payroll tax and taxes on everyday items. There would in fact be more money available for education if there were no government due to the incredible amount of waste/theft involved.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 I don't blame private companies. Their aim is to make money. And there is no money to be made by offering education to people who can't pay for it.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Why the fuck do you need the government when you will pay for the poor along with other people who claim to? remove the middle man already since you care so much besides kids can take it online its a lot cheaper.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
@seasch71 Only partly true.You can make money having other people pay for it - charity. Additionally, not-for-profits can also fill in the gaps as they have in the England and the US prior to Public Schools.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 Again. you still don't answer my question. Why isn't there enough charity to give poor in the US a proper education today? History and the reality of today shows, that there isn't enough charity to give everyone a good education.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 You are clearly not reading the posts. The poor have been "educated" by the public schools. Illiteracy is now rampant. History shows that in the absence of public schools, there will be enough charity (especially with our productive output now) for everyone who wishes to go. If you wish me to show cost for school prior to 1870 compared with cost for school now relative to today's purchasing power I will be happy to.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 Costs went up, true. Education today is longer and better than it ever was. Still public schools only cost a fraction of the costs of the private schools, at least in Switzerland, where I got the numbers.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Longer does not mean better. I don't mean this in any derogatory sense, but you don't understand economic theory if you think cost means bill #1 vs. bill #2. There are tremendous hidden costs with government overhead.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 To clarify, someone with a gun decides for you how long you will be in school and what you will study regardless of your interests or career choice (if any). This can never ever ever be better. Violence is not a solution for complex social problems, especially when the "problem" was fabricated in the first place.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
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@seasch71 "I don't blame private companies. Their aim is to make money. And there is no money to be made by offering education to people who can't pay for it."
If company had a sign on their product that stated they donate 1% of their profits to educating poor children and other companies who sold a similar product didn't, which company would you buy from?
shlockofgod 1 month ago
@seasch71 .... dating back to the 19th century and there is little doubt that school costs have increased as a result and that public schools are to blame.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 In the 1838 report on the Training of Pauper Children in workhouse, 87% of English children could read. 1839, a AHW commissioners report showed shoploom weavers in Glouestershire had only 15 out of 195 who were illiterate. A special survey of the reading and writing abilities of the city of Hull in 1839 showed found that of the 14,526 adults, 14,109 had attend day or night school and that only 1,054 couldn't read - 92% could read.TBC...
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 By the 1860's 9/10 of the population was literate. One area this reflected is military records. In the Navy and Marine 1865 report, 99% of the boys inducted could read compared with existing seaman 89%,Marines 80%, and Officers 94%. Literacy was growing thanks to the increased wealth brought about by the industrial revolution. To attribute any increase of literacy beyond this point is to public schooling is to commit a post hoc ergo propter hoc. TBC...
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 Sorry, forgot to reply to your initial post. This marriage certificate quote from Prof. Glass needs to be considered more deeply. Firstly, does he imply that the rate of change in the prov. of education was faster in the 90 years subsequent to 1870 than in the 30 years between 1840 and 1870? An increase from 66 to 80 percent of men able to sign their names over a 30 year period of significant population increase is surely a great rate of change compared with an increase...
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 ...from 80 to 100% at most over a later 90 year period. More important, this doesnt reflect a schooling gap in 1870. The Registrar General indicates that these men left school 17 years earlier which means this is roughly reflective of the 1850s. You now are looking at a personality type - subset of society rather than a broader swath of the population. A better way to estimate literacy at this time (the Forster provisions) is the 1891 census. 6.4 % of men signed with their mark...tbc
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@seasch71 ... ... and 7.3% of women did as well. Long story short, if we are to accept the marriage signature test and that illiteracy is the result of a schooling gap, then we should conclude that 93% of school leavers were already literate when the 1870 Board Schools first began to operate.
MrFreebie777 1 month ago
@MrFreebie777 I would really like to see some numbers, because those I found on the net, seen to show that a huge part of blacks had no education and most women had no education.
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 The internet is way better than government schools if i had the choice of government schools or the internet you know who wins. Don't talk about the poor when you haven't been to inner city schools alright just fuck off with that poor crap.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
@Tethloach1 Because the internet offers free porn and school doesn't? /irony off
What makes you believe, that the internet provides better education than schools?
I am not against the internet, but with Kim Kardashian getting 300'000'000 hits and the Battle of Hastings four percent, I hightly doubt your statement.
Not sure what to make with your last comment, might have helped, if you had spent more time learning than surfing the internet and looking at lolcatz...
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Well No the internet has far more useful information than nearly all public schools teach.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
@Tethloach1 I am not saying that the internet has less useful information than what public school teach. The problem with the internet is that it also has a lot, and I am meaning A LOT of rubbish informations, like birthers, truthers, yeti-sightings, UFOs, inteligent desing, religion, etc. etc.
The internet does to a certain extent, level the playing field. Any idiot can, with no research and very little effort promote a thesis on the internet. Inteligent design should not be part of education
seasch71 1 month ago
@seasch71 Public schools don't teach kids how to think they teach them what to think. Imagine an online school that for every teacher 10,000 students. it would save a lot of money and it can, kids would learn better, it would be 1 on 1 the teacher would be right in thier face and they can always replay the vids. religions should be taught so kids can see that they are full of crap not one but all Islam,christianity,judaism, kids will see and become skeptics. Government schools aren't worth it.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
Wow, ok...this guy is talking a gun into the next terrorist's hand
Rizen018 1 month ago
Gold can devalue just like currency if the people investing the gold are irresponsible with it.
MatthewMitch23051992 1 month ago
In college I took Logic 100. This class could be taught to 5th graders, and it was the most useful stuff I ever learned in school.
I spent 13 years having information crammed into my head, and only at the end of it all do I get a method for discerning truth from falsehood.
Equity213 1 month ago 5
I can think of two more important questions to me right off the bat. What is liberation -because if you know how 2 self liberate and
liberate from conditioning then you know how 2 be free of governments, money and all concepts. Ultimate importance. 2nd-What is the mind-all YT videos are products of the mind. But what is it?. Understand mind then need not live in mental poverty or traps
Everyone's opinions = conditioning however if you know the mind
then you can be agenda free.
Starwheel6 1 month ago
why do u assume everybody of youur subscribers knows the answers?
erdal0 1 month ago
Government: grows stronger when citizens use force to get their way.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
I wish you would have given the definition of REAL money, and then explained how fiat currency "masquerades" as money.
indignant99 1 month ago
@indignant99 Money: haves and have nots always. everyone can't have money. bartering seems safer than money because you put value in a piece of paper now your life depends on having some of that paper= house bills, food, clothing, transportation, entertainment. The government is running a pyramid scheme with money. Communism shows why government money fails quickly. Socialist/capitalist societies take a bit longer.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
Great vid. Thx Stef.
gozxdesastros 1 month ago
genius
boy577 1 month ago
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I have question for capitalist utopists
What kind of values and incentives system promotes where upon your monetary wealth depends :
Social standing
Education
Resource access
Many more all the way to personal feeling of self worth
Because hell they aren't morality and no-violence.
shogu666 1 month ago
keep on spreading philosophy stef. I spent around a year trying to justify statist philosophy to myself, and I really wish I could because it would make life so much easier.
About once every 6 months I still say to myself "ok this guy cannot be right and everyone else wrong, I just have to figure out where he's wrong"
....but i never can unfortunately
karthadastim 1 month ago
@karthadastim The truth is shocking when you have been lied to your whole life always the truth is always shocking.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
@Tethloach1 Yeah I almost feel I got randomly lucky that I am open minded and able to see the truth unlike the majority of people who just dismiss it because of their emotionally reactions to reason and evidence due to damaged brains...Although sometimes I think people who are oblivious to the world lead happier lives.
karthadastim 1 month ago
@karthadastim that's the thing the more information us truth loving reason loving people have the more something doesn't feel right like religion, church, hypocrisy, and even BS theories.
Tethloach1 1 month ago
1. Truth found from scientific methodology, in physics,chemistry,biology, which rely on mathematics for deductive logical answers to problems.virtue, is what is good for you personally, and not harmful to other people. 3. Government is a business, which is involved in stealing people's income, so basically legalised robbery. 4. Money, is a fiat currency in a state society. 5.Law is revenge.
Metalheadtill1die 1 month ago
Thanks for your definitions.
I still don't see how us hairless apes will change our nature because someone invents a philosophy.
If the software isn't compatible with the hardware, it just ain't gonna work.
Nice try though !
safeinsuburbia 1 month ago