Thats the plan..... actually a pumped up 4bt, I have the 6bt in the dually for towing...... a wicked 4bt is plenty and mpg is awesome. besides the 4bt wont kill my suspension or trans. gonna get a newer independent 4wd for the wife for swap.. she hates the solid axle ride LOL
I was looking at Bluebeaverbeer and he doesn't use efies either.. instead of that he uses like a box fan control.. you know..low/ med / high to control his cell. Cool idea, huh?
Is there some device when adjusting the EFIE that can be used to tell where you are at? When you adjust it back from where it stumbles, how do you know at what point is safe and not running to lean even though it may not be stumbling?
i like the bolt upgrades a lot, what size are the brass bolts? they look to be about 1/4" you say you drove 150A through them with no heat? Thats interesting.. not like SS it appears, that was my knock on them.
Hey BTW welcome to the Neighborhood, Im in Pasadena, CA.. right next to you, maybe we can meet sometime, Im a cell builder too.. I will pm you my info!
lets see...you have access to a laser cutter and use "high grade steel" and that suburban...wow i hope its the sentimental value...i got two old trucks 87 f150, 90 isuzu i would let you borrow for a year. they both have air , manual shift, ac and no smoke. efies are not "dangerous". fathom further on that nonsense. you can easily get it to trim while floating above where its calling for...which is more petrol...you know the pw of the ecu thats sucks the wallet? besides that old clunker dont care
Not sentimental but proly the safest rig on the road for my family. Anyone has access to laser cutter you gotta look. efie can be dangerous if the user dont understand it. set your efie to .5-.6 and enjoy 30-40% on your rigs. then call me in 6 month complaining about burned pistons. They can be usefull to a knowlegable tuner but not the average joe. The vehicles today run rich for multiple reasons. if a company made them run max mpg anf fuel curves right off the bat....
They would be on the ragged edge of self destruction. what happens when your injectors start to degrade or get partially clogged? the comp cant see that. Basically they are set a little rich for a buffer zone. When you use efie it puts them out of that buffer. So one day when your fuel pump decides to put out 5-10 psi less that it should do to age you have just melted stuff. The buffer zone is engineered in for these instances. by all means go use efie's just be carefull
you the man...i have several cells going now all dry cells. i advanced timing on 97 kia sephia....1.8 4 cyl but all it did is ping and balk. course i only have a smack booster on it that puts out like 1.liter min cold. guy in england sez he gets 60% and advances timing. reinforces that implsion occurs making cyl not have to compress gas, the hho squashed it?
I was able to advance my timing another 8 degrees for a total af 17deg static advance. That went against my prediction. If the cell is turned off it detonates itself to death. The hho in the mix totally changes the burn of petrol. The hho allowing for timing advance raised cylinder pressure which increased mpg. Its not the hho itself, its how hho changes the fuel burn. This is what I see and am concluding. Not fact. Just results of my tests.
Yes. I will do a vid on the results. The results will suprise everyone. Take everything you now know and trow it out the window. It is really taking this engine builder for a wild ride.
Its one thing to make an hho cell but its another to have them made by a mechanic. Your testing & research about installation & performance with the goal to increase MPG is what I think is important.
I look forward to learning more & watching more vids.
Rob, I'm looking forward to seeing your new cell design, Sounds as if it will solve the problem of cell flooding while making turns with high lateral G forces, Hard Braking, and Extreme Acceleration forces... KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK... I also like the idea of yours to offer this information and design as open source... Thanks Man!!!
The diamond cell fixes those problems already and parts are being stock piles now for production. The diamond and regular cell are easier for some one to replicate off of free upcoming pdf. The newest version is similar to diamond but will be harder to hand replicate. A little more performance but the diamond is close. The third design is more meant for the "cool Factor" Thx rob
throw a 5.9 cummins with manual in that beast ! lol im doin a swap in an 84'scottsdale
1/2 ton..
digzie1 2 years ago
Thats the plan..... actually a pumped up 4bt, I have the 6bt in the dually for towing...... a wicked 4bt is plenty and mpg is awesome. besides the 4bt wont kill my suspension or trans. gonna get a newer independent 4wd for the wife for swap.. she hates the solid axle ride LOL
higherpoweredh2o 2 years ago
I was looking at Bluebeaverbeer and he doesn't use efies either.. instead of that he uses like a box fan control.. you know..low/ med / high to control his cell. Cool idea, huh?
audiegates 3 years ago
Is there some device when adjusting the EFIE that can be used to tell where you are at? When you adjust it back from where it stumbles, how do you know at what point is safe and not running to lean even though it may not be stumbling?
partwerks 3 years ago
i like the bolt upgrades a lot, what size are the brass bolts? they look to be about 1/4" you say you drove 150A through them with no heat? Thats interesting.. not like SS it appears, that was my knock on them.
Hey BTW welcome to the Neighborhood, Im in Pasadena, CA.. right next to you, maybe we can meet sometime, Im a cell builder too.. I will pm you my info!
thanks
moreoverunity 3 years ago
lets see...you have access to a laser cutter and use "high grade steel" and that suburban...wow i hope its the sentimental value...i got two old trucks 87 f150, 90 isuzu i would let you borrow for a year. they both have air , manual shift, ac and no smoke. efies are not "dangerous". fathom further on that nonsense. you can easily get it to trim while floating above where its calling for...which is more petrol...you know the pw of the ecu thats sucks the wallet? besides that old clunker dont care
john29302 3 years ago
Not sentimental but proly the safest rig on the road for my family. Anyone has access to laser cutter you gotta look. efie can be dangerous if the user dont understand it. set your efie to .5-.6 and enjoy 30-40% on your rigs. then call me in 6 month complaining about burned pistons. They can be usefull to a knowlegable tuner but not the average joe. The vehicles today run rich for multiple reasons. if a company made them run max mpg anf fuel curves right off the bat....
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
They would be on the ragged edge of self destruction. what happens when your injectors start to degrade or get partially clogged? the comp cant see that. Basically they are set a little rich for a buffer zone. When you use efie it puts them out of that buffer. So one day when your fuel pump decides to put out 5-10 psi less that it should do to age you have just melted stuff. The buffer zone is engineered in for these instances. by all means go use efie's just be carefull
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
and what better test bed to test mpg than the biggest heaviest family truck on the road. Its all in the plan.
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
you the man...i have several cells going now all dry cells. i advanced timing on 97 kia sephia....1.8 4 cyl but all it did is ping and balk. course i only have a smack booster on it that puts out like 1.liter min cold. guy in england sez he gets 60% and advances timing. reinforces that implsion occurs making cyl not have to compress gas, the hho squashed it?
john29302 3 years ago
I was able to advance my timing another 8 degrees for a total af 17deg static advance. That went against my prediction. If the cell is turned off it detonates itself to death. The hho in the mix totally changes the burn of petrol. The hho allowing for timing advance raised cylinder pressure which increased mpg. Its not the hho itself, its how hho changes the fuel burn. This is what I see and am concluding. Not fact. Just results of my tests.
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
rob i got a quick ? have you tried testing with the timing slightley retarded?
mercury9165 3 years ago
Yes. I will do a vid on the results. The results will suprise everyone. Take everything you now know and trow it out the window. It is really taking this engine builder for a wild ride.
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
any ideas about winter?
tekkenm2000 3 years ago
Rob, Again great work, you have my respect sir.
Its one thing to make an hho cell but its another to have them made by a mechanic. Your testing & research about installation & performance with the goal to increase MPG is what I think is important.
I look forward to learning more & watching more vids.
Peace,
Steve
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
it all comes down to horsepower to weight ratio.
poweruser69 3 years ago
Rob, I'm looking forward to seeing your new cell design, Sounds as if it will solve the problem of cell flooding while making turns with high lateral G forces, Hard Braking, and Extreme Acceleration forces... KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK... I also like the idea of yours to offer this information and design as open source... Thanks Man!!!
h21odotcom 3 years ago
The diamond cell fixes those problems already and parts are being stock piles now for production. The diamond and regular cell are easier for some one to replicate off of free upcoming pdf. The newest version is similar to diamond but will be harder to hand replicate. A little more performance but the diamond is close. The third design is more meant for the "cool Factor" Thx rob
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago