Either way, my side won. I am pretty excited about it. Moore got nothing and is fucked. he was put in a wheelchair because of his antics, lost his job, was bertuzzi's bitch, no money left, etc. sucks to be moore.
One more thing. funny how you complain where the puck was on bertuzzi's clean hit, but never mention the fact that moore let the puck off his stick just so he could sucker naslund. nice 1 sided view there buddy. you make me laugh.
@duffy31311 I don't mention that because the puck was right there Moore had the right to hit Naslund in that situation, He had the choice to play the puck or the Body he played the body, A lot different then punching someone in the back of the head when the puck is 80 so feet away
No. puck wasnt right there. Moore let it off his stick so he could sucker naslund. why do you think crawford was so pissed off. a 4th line garbage player running your captain?? of course he was pissed.
You are too extreme. the truth is somewhere in between 1) moore's hit was clean and 2) Bertuzzi's hit was clean. But you maintain your astoundingly idiotic stance that moore's hit was clean. Never seen a sucker elbow to the forehead be considered a clean hit.
@duffy31311 the puck was right there You can see the bloody thing in the video, Crawford gets pissed anytime a player of his is hit
Well It was, He never left his feet, He never extended his elbow, He had the right to play the body in that situation, The only reason Naslund was hit in the head was because he reached for the puck like a retard, It was Naslunds actions who caused the hit to occur in the manner that it did, Naslund himself has said something along those lines,
if moore never touched the puck, you would have a point. the point is that steve had a chance to play the puck. he had no interest in that. he chose instead to let the puck roll off his stick and sucker hit naslund with a dirty elbow. I hope naslund recovers fully. It was a brutal elbow.
Again, you would have a point if moore and naslund were both fighting for the puck. but they werent. moore just let that puck roll off his stick. only so he could sucker naz. which he did.
@duffy31311 Naslund was back in action 3 games later.
Did it ever occur to you that neither player had control of the puck and that Moore could have just been bracing himself for Naslund to run into him? of course it didn't...your mind hasn't broadened to that point yet.
I agree fully with duffy3131...there's a person with hockey knowledge for you...
your stupidity keeps growing each time your fingers hit the keyboard. it is astounding. Moore had the puck on his stick n blew it off in order to sucker nas.
not really. you have to keep your head up. if moore did that, he wouldnt look like a guy with a fuckin cup in his hand. pay attention on the ice steve when someone grabs your jersey! dont be a bitch and run!
Plus I dont see what bertuzzi did as being that bad. It wasnt a bad hit. Moore just took the brunt of it. Maybe steve can have better on ice awareness next time. Bertuzzi warned him over and over and grabbed his jersey and yelled at him.
@duffy31311 True because it wasn't a hit at all it was a sucker punch to the back of the head, That is what is wrong with that play, The puck was no where near and Bertuzzi wanted blood and suckerpunched a guy in the back of the head, That isn't a hit at all that is assault
steve moore blind sided naslund in that game. THe fact is it is hockey and people get hit like that from time to time. moore is just a baby. I am glad the lockout happened the following season so Bertuzzi's suspension really did not matter. Enjoy the golf course Moore u av piece of shit. Look at what lemiux did to draper. Still nothing happened to that fag frenchie piece of shit. GO WINGS!!!
@paintball4001 Hey, How in the hell was that a blindside, That was a north south collision go look at some of Matt Cookes hits, Nothing like what Moore did he went in for a clean hockey play, Naslunds actions turned it into what it was,
What actually broke Moore's neck? It couldn't have been the suckerpunch, the hard landing could've done it, but if that was the case his bones were pretty damn weak, so I honestly think it was the added pressure of the four other guys jumping on trying to play the 'hero'. What Bertuzzi did was wrong, but Moore's hit on Naslund wasn't good, either. The distinct swaying into Naslund and the raising of the elbow prove that. Whether it was accidental or not doesn't matter at this point in time.
We see something similar in Chara-Pacioretty. In both cases, the NHL referees failed to prevent something left over from an earlier game from boiling over. In fact, they use the "rivalries" and the violence to sell the game in their advertisements, for example in their "fussin' and fightin'" video. It is sad that the world's most skilled players have to deal with this, because clearly hockey can exist without it. It does at college levels and below. It's time to stop the violence against people.
@DerangedRanger1 Not too mention the Olympics, That is the best hockey out there, There is more skill in every game, It's much faster and more exciting and It's still physical but you do not see the crap that happens way too much in the NHL,
The sad part is we only see that type of hockey every four years, And it might not be as great the next time around depending on what the NHL does with the CBA next year, They better keep the NHlers there
@duffy3131 It is the "its part of the game" attitude that is the problem. Clearly it is not if these other hockey competitions (like the olympics, as you say) don't have it. People need to recognize that the players are not just robots serving a function of playing on your favorite team or your most hated team. They are human beings who are important to their families and friends, and people who do enough to endanger their bodies for our entertainment already. Whats next, bring a gun on the ice?
Moore should be in JAIL for that sucker hit on naslund. and if moore could keep his head UP, the dipshit wouldnt be in a fuckin wheelchair droolin all over himself
Yes, I don't think cartes blanche is ever really in play amongst civilized human beings, nor is it something to be coveted. "Oh, I fuckin hate this asshole- and his back is turned....Doesn't mean "Better shoot him in the back of the head" to me. If anything, I WANT the dude to know what hit him.
Todd did mess up and he is paying and will continue to pay. Moore was as aware of his surroundings as he needed to be and WAS going to turn around inevitably, so this was all unnecessary. Hella Weak as Cartman would put it.
he would laugh too. you see, all bertuzzi's costs are what is called sunk costs. Its over. all in the past. Now he is making millions, and in the rear view mirror is some gold diggin pest trying to make millions off lawsuits cause he had zero hockey talent. judge knew.
back it up?? you are killin me. lol. Moore has received nothing. you, my friend, are the one who needs to back up a claim that bertuzzi has to pay something out to moore.
Oh, I've laid out why Bert's gonna pay Moore plenty of times- and not only have you not refuted any of it, you actually conceded the point on a couple of occasions. I can back up everything I say, because I think intellectual honesty is important. I know teabaggers don't feel the same way- but I won't stoop to your level. But yea, show me something that proves that a judge (ANY judge) feels that Moore has a frivolous case and it was thrown out for that reason. Can't wait.
boy--you are a legend in your own mind. I never would concede anything, as you sound like a complete moron when talking about this case.
problem is that you make sense in YOUR mind, the mind of someone who likes the urban dictionary--but no judge would agree with you. thats why moore has nothing. and dont tell me the "case is still being heard" LOL! I love that one. yeah, it normally takes 8 years to try a case that included one hit. lol.
lol, so you've either got a bad memory or you're a liar, too. Well that fits the teabag mold as well.
ANYHOO... The case hasn't been heard. It was tossed out of Colorado for jurisdictional reasons and hasn't been in court since. And yes, I can prove that if you'd like. You claimed you had an inside source that reported the case was thrown out again- got proof?
And where exactly do I sound like a complete moron on this? And be specific this time- Stop dodgin' me, boy!
You know, it comes as absolutely no surprise at all that an intellectually dishonest troll who has spent years of his life justifying a crime is of the Tea Bag ilk. None whatsoever.
HELLA Weak!! I got that one from the urban dictionary, my bible! I am not conservative. I get all my information from south park and the urban dictionary! I am democrat. liberal.
Wow, how did we end up on this weird tangent? Oh that's right, I was trying to have an adult discussion with a teabagger. What was I thinking? Well lesson learned.
@hockeyfanredwings Sorry, but democrats are just as fascist as republicans. The most liberal of the US mainstream is really quite conservative compared to places like Europe.
@hockeyfanredwings Canada is not Conservative, In fact is a fairly liberal country, Have you ever been here?
Yes we have a Conservative leader, But it is a minority government, We had a liberal government for 13 years in a row, And guess what the leader retired and that's the only reason Stephen Harper won the election because the liberals did not find a good replacement
nice try but cooke wasnt his fight. moore chose cooke because he was scared of bertuzzi and had turned bert down in order to fight a weaker kid. not cool.
@hockeyfanredwings Moore and Cooke were pretty much in the same weight class as each other so yes it was an equal fight. Moore had already answered for his crime in hockey terms and Bert was just frustrated. Theres nothing you can say that would justify what Bertuzzi did as a good thing.
let me explain how the league works. you mess up like moore did, fight is with the goon. you cant pass up the goon. Moore had NOT answered for the crime. thats the problem.
@hockeyfanredwings In Moore's opinion he had already answered the call and fought Cooke so there was no reason for him to fight Bertuzzi. Bertuzzi was just pissed off because his team was losing like 8-2 or something in that game and was looking for someway to vent. Just look at the whole Cooke-Savard situation. Cooke took out Savard for far more games than what Moore did to Naslund, and he fought once and it was over with. What do you expect Cooke to do? Fight the entire Bruins team?
boy, Moore should have looked up the rules before playing. you NEVER sucker hit a captain like that and then hide from the fight. Bertuzzi had asked to fight long before cooke accidently bumped into moore. Moore was scared and chose to fight a weaker guy. not cool. pissed em all off more.
Moore would have been fine IF cooke were the first to ask. but bert just couldnt get moore to man up. so moore chose cooke. get it?
@hockeyfanredwings You're right Moore should've just fought Bertuzzi, but what Bertuzzi did was wrong and Moore did not deserve to have his neck broken, his career ended, and to suffer permanent irreversable head damages. Any attempt to justify what Bertuzzi did is just plain stupidty and the people who actaully try to defend Bertuzzi are mostly Canucks fans who are too proud to say their team screwed up and own up to their mistakes.
not really. use your brain and look at it from moore's perspective. he sucked. shit player, was on the way out, and this was his way to make a buck. sucker hit, rile em up, and then when you get punched filed 'stupid' lawsuits. it was worth a shot even though moore got nothing.
look at mcdonalds coffee. some money hungry gold digger like moore sued because he spilled hot coffee on himself and won. that is what moore is obviously trying to do.
@hockeyfanredwings Oh really? who are you to say he was never going to make it in the NHL? Plenty of guys that "suck" still manage to stay in the league or AHL long enough to feed their families for a lifetime. And comparing spilling hot coffee to breaking somebody's neck and causing permanent physical and psychological damage is just retarded. Fact is Bertuzzi fucked up, he knows and the majority of the hockey world knows it except for a few nucks and bertuzzi fans who still try to defend him.
moore was sucker hittin stars dumbass. why was he doing that? sounds desperate to me. Just glad moore didnt get a dime from bertuzzi and bertuzzi is still out there makin milliions. ha ha. sucks to be moore huh?
You are correct, jon. In fact, one fellow Center that Moore had a better rookie season than that I know of off the top of my head..... Markus Naslund.
Point is no one knows what would've become of Moore if Bert doesn't sucker punch him. Anyone is free to speculate, but nobody knows. Naslund had a similarly forgettable rookie season and rose to prominence. Not saying Moore would've or could've, I can't do that because I don't know. Nobody knows.
only avalanche fans dont know what moore was. everyone else does. he was human shit. thats why moore was sucker hitting stars. to try and make a name for himself because he was demoted to the 4th line permanently. and if moore wanted to do well in the league, he never should have ran away from facing the music on the payback fight. point is--if ya want longevity, dont sucker hit stars and then hide. period. cause you get what is comin to ya.
Only Avalanche fans had a clue who Moore even WAS before all this lol. Dislike the guy all you want, but he was not talentless- albeit perhaps a *bit* naive. But in either case, sucker punching anyone is weak, but especially when the guy's running away! That makes it even worse! There's nothing that Bert or the Canucks wanted to do that couldn't have been done effectively face to face with Moore. And clearly, hitting him from behind didn't do anybody a lick of good.
ha ha. well, i suppose we just see it differently. in detroit, if you act like a punk your punishment is--well, whatever that person decides it is. that's how it works. if you mess up, you pay. and then you take it like a man, dust yourself off, and move on.
remember, moore COULD get a job. he isnt exactly talented enough.
Hey kenny boy, what the hell is a "douches bag"? Is that a special type of canadian douche bag? boy, you and your 80K must be ready for retirement huh?
Ever think that Crawford told Bertuzzi to hit Moore? Cause the Coach was wining like a little school girl after the Naslund hit. But, I have a question to all of the unintelligent idiots out there, how could Moore fight Bertuzzi when he broke his neck? Is he just going to get up and fight. Yes Moore hit Naslund, but the Canucks were out for blood when he punched him from behind and then forced his head onto the ice as he did pus his weight onto him.
i despise bertuzzi too but watching this video i realized that if the avalanche player hadn't jumped on bertuzzi while he was still bringing moore to the ice moore may not have been hurt as bad
your a fucking retard man and your probably the biggest pussy there is... moore's hit on naslund was clean and bertuzzi is the bigger bitch for throwing a cheap shot like that
Okay, to be fair. This is old news, as Bertiuzzi tried to communicate to others, he`s moved on. Got over all this shit. Sure, he hasn't clinched the cup. So what? A lot of players haven't done so either. And seriously...Moore just needs to forgive and forget. Get a new job or something...jeez...
And the Canucks are amazing btw. In my opinion of course.
Forgive and forget? I know everybody says he sucked, but Moore was actually a promising player for the Avalanche. Bertuzzi ended his career in hockey, and prevented him from doing many other things. I'll bet wherever he finds work, its not going to pay 1 mil. Thats why Moore has these suits against Bertuzzi.
umm you should stop posting things in general, it's hard to read what you're even trying to say because you suck a giant amount of dick at speaking i guess, plus you make no sense...typical wings hick, sigh
hit was clean. much cleaner that that sucker hit on naslund. dirty hit. Moore could have done a LOT of jail time for that assault on naslund. NOT cool.
guys can you STFU? I am a hockey fan too but did you know more people watch NASCAR than NHL? To be frank; No one really gives a fuck. For real.
I met Bertuzzi in a sport chek in Calgary, I shook his hands, talked to him. Didn't bring up the moore thing. Lots of other people came up to him and talked to him. No one brought it up. Yes the whole incident sucks. But it's basically done and you guys bitch talking about it ain't gonna do nothing. Now it's just between their lawyers and the 2 men.
what moore did to naslund wasn't as dirty as what bertuzzi did. moore was finishing his check, and you can clearly see that he was lowering his shoulder....naslund was very low, to the point where his knee was almost on the ice. so moore didn't intentionally do the damage that he did, nor did bertuzzi. BUT, bertuzzi is a fucking goon that can't even fight the guy fairly, he has to grab him from behind and sucker punch him, ruining moore's career. bertuzzi should have been banned from the nhl.
Now, Moore's hit wasn't clean. That was a dirty hit. He should have been given a misconduct, maybe. But the Canucks didn't get the call. Instead, they took matters into their own hands, and nearly killed Moore. and to all you canucks fans that say it evens out, LIKE HELL IT DOES! Naslund was out for 1 game. Moore's been out for 5 years. He'll never be able to get a job that pays that well with his disabilities...
@jackavsfan In general, I believe the NHL referees, acting as slaves to the capitalist NHL pigs who clearly will sacrifice a human being's well-being in order to sell a few tickets, who are at fault. Most large brawls and violent behavior results from the incompetency of these boobs.
@DerangedRanger1 I am sorry but there is no blame to the referees here, Yes there should be some blame to Garry bettman and company but not the referees themselves They called the steve Moore hit as it was, LEGAL, But the NHL failed to dissolve the situation when they knew it was going to happen, They knew something like this was bound to happen, Garry Bettman even attended the game in between both incidents to try and stop it
He should have let the Refs have more power in the game But he didn't
@DerangedRanger1 They could have told both the Avs and The Canucks that both teams would have heavy financial penaltys if anything happens, As well as the coaches, Then Moore wouldn't have been on the ice, And Crawford wouldn't have sent guys after him problem solved, But saying this Bertuzzi is still the one too blame, Becuase no one forced him to do what he did
@duffy3131 Part of the problem was perhaps that Moore was not penalized as badly as the Canucks felt he should have been. (I am an Avs fan and I can't stand the Canucks.) I think that when refs and the league let things go like that, there will be problems. I am a Habs fan too, and I seriously hope that we don't see escalations of violence with the Chara incident, but the league clearly doesn't take a broken neck seriously. Stuff like that ruins it.
@DerangedRanger1 Yes But you can't suspend a player for a legal hit, Now The league knew something was going to happen because several Canucks made statements following the game about getting Moore, but decided to do nothing,
The league handled the Berutzzi incident fairly well except the fact they thought Bertuzzi served his sentence during the lockout, Which I feel should not count and He should have been out the next season as well but thats my opinion,
what bertuzzi did to moore was just part of the game. its part of hockey code. what steve moore did was inexcusable. there is no place in the game for steve moore's sucker hits.
@duffy31311 Seriously are you just trying to bring me back into this arguement, With a cloned account to boot, I know you are nothing but a troll, so what you think doesn't matter to me, What Moore did was a hockey play the reason the hit ended up as it did was based on Naslunds actions, Not Moores, Now what Bertuzzi did was not part of the game of hockey or the code, Never should you hit someone in the back of the head and send them to the ice like that
I think you are insane. how the hell is what moore did a "hockey Play"? sorry friend. a sucker elbow to the forehead of a star, giving him a concussion, is disgusting. and it warranted the payback moore got. period. you can bitch n moan all you want but at the end of the day, moore lost and bertuzzi won. game set match.
there is no place in the game for sucker hits like moore's assault on naslund.
@duffy31311 haha I'm insane, Says the guys who has spent years on youtube argueing that over several different usernames,
Moore went in for a body check, He went to play the body not Hit someone in the back of the head, he never stuck his elbow out and never left his feet, His feet were planted to the ground when going for the hit, Naslund could have easily seen him coming, The onus for this hit lays on Naslund not Moore, Moore went to play the body and Naslund left himself in a bad position
@duffy31311 It doesn't matter who he hit, star player or not, That was a good play, Though it ended badly for Naslund, But Naslunds actions caused the hit to end up like that not Moores, That hit was very similar to the ones that Scott Stevens used to throw, completely legal but looked bad becasue the other guy was not ready for it
That's not my argument. I personally dont care if naslund was a star and that is who he hit. But Moore blew off the puck to deliver a cheap blow--and it happened to be an impact player. So of course there is going to be hell to pay. what did steve think?
a "good play" as you say is not that one. Moore just let the puck off his stick and jammed an elbow into naslund. how is that a good play? lol. It is laughable to think that. stevens never used an elbow. period.
@duffy31311 Ya neither did Moore in that particular hit, His elbow was not extended it was in tight with his body the only reason his elbow came close to Naslunds head was because of Naslunds actions, And in that situation you have the choice to play the puck or the body, Moore chose the body, It was a good play on Moores behalf, Naslunds actions cause the collision to look like it did, Moore went in for a clean hit, Nasluns left himself in a bad position
you are missing so many things I really dont know where to start. you act like they were both goin for the puck. no. moore let the puck off his stick on purpose in order to stuff his elbow in moore's forehead, which from the video you can see happened.
stevens would hit guys who were traveling with the puck. get it? a good solid hit on a guy who had the puck. Moore was just out to sucker hit. moore is not stevens, an enforcer. he was a sucker hitting cheap shot artist.
@duffy31311 No, I am not acting like they were both going for the puck what i am saying is in that particular situation Moore had the right to chose to play the body rather then the puck that is what he did, Second Naslunds actions caused the elbow to be near his head not Moore's, The onus lies with Naslund there,
@duffy31311 Stevens hit guys who either had just had the puck or were going for the puck as well, I am not comparing the two players I am comparing that particular hit with some of the ones stevens through during his career, which you can draw some similarities between them that is all i am saying
@duffy31311 Stevens never used his elbow but he did catch a few guys with his elbow the way Moore did, He never extended his elbow but when he hit sometimes the guy was low and looking down and his elbow did end up conecting that was the point i was trying to make, It was similar in the fact that he didn't stick out his elbow but based on Naslunds actions his elbow ended up making contact
@DerangedRanger1 Yes neither do I,, And I place the blame on the League and the owners, The New rules involving clutching and grabbing helped make it so Chara had little choice but to do what he did, And the owner of the Habs knew his arena was unsafe but did not make the necessary changes in order to save money, Most NHL owners are in the same boat as well
@DerangedRanger1 That glass that is there between the benches should not be there, If they want to keep it they should redesign how it is set up, Change the angle of the turnbuckle and that might not have happened the way it did,
Those turnbuckles there are just a death sentence, Someone will die from being sent into one of those unless they are changed
@jackavsfan I realize you left this comment here a year ago, but I just don't see how you can say Moore's hit wasn't clean. Naslund does a lunging chop and put himself into an extremely compromised position after Moore was already going for the hit, and they weren't very far apart. I'm sure some people will say he extended his elbow from the footage, but to me if you watch both arms it looks like he's just naturally moving them after the force of the collision. Everything else I agree with.
cause moore stuffed an elbow into naslund's forehead with a sucker hit. was elbowing, interference and charging. all 3. lol. dirtier hit than bertuzzi's clean hit on moore.
Are we watching the same video? Any elbow to head contact is caused by Naslund lowering his body by kneeling, any calls of charging are nullified by the fact that his skates were on the ice and planted until contact is made when the collision knocks both of them down, and interference, nope. Both guys were going for the puck and Moore braces himself for contact while Naslund didn't.
No, the assault by moore was due to moore lowering his elbow with a very targeted sucker hit on naslund. If naslund didnt lunge, moore obviously still had intent to injure. refs missed that one. big mistake, as it ended moores 'career'. if you want to call it that.
It actually was interference--by definition a man cannot prevent another man from getting the puck. I think steve moore should just shut the F up. you blew it steve. deal with it. next time man up and fight.
Nobody is trolling. Just sick and tired of people who do not understand hockey. It was interference. Period. could have been charging and elbowing too.
further, moore did not settle it up by fighting cooke. cooke wasnt the enforcer. everyone would like to settle a debt by fighting a pussy. Bert was his fight, but moore was too much of a bitch to fight.
Now, hopefully I will stop reading the classic ignorance such as "Moore answered the bell when he fought cooke" sigh. stupid
@aLpHaDoG2008 I agree to an extent, but I think the problem is more than Bertuzzi, McSorley, Chara, etc. The problem is that the NHL is a culture that encourages this kind of violence. It starts at the top level with Bettman and flows all the way down to the refs, coaches, players, and even the fans. What needs to happen is people need to re-evaluate what hockey is: how do we minimize the risk of people getting hurt with life threatening injuries?
@hockeyfanredwings As long as Bert keeps cursing the teams he plays for, he can make as much as he wants. I'm just happy that he'll never get his grimy hands on the Cup :)
possibly. I am just happy that A. Moore can never injure another star player with another sucker hit and B. moore will never see a dime from his lawsuits.
barney, apparently your mother didnt hug you enough when you were young or perhaps your father used to call you a pussy for getting beat up by the neighborhood bully?
Go man, go! Don't take any crap from anyone! This five year-old incident is REALLY IMPORTANT! Enough to spend every hour of your waking time arguing about it. Sure, nobody gives a rat's ass about it anymore... But YOU have a VERY IMPORTANT JOB of posting again and again and again and again about Todd Bertuzzi and Steve Moore. EARTH TO BARNEY FRANK. EARTH TO BARNEY FRANK........... Nobody gives a shit! But you keep right on typing away, buddy. It's an EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE use of your time.
If I think about it? Obviously, you miss the entire point. You're not a hockey fan, you are a crazed psychopath that spends your ENTIRE LIFE screaming about how one guy is a puss, the other guy did a good job, etc. NOBODY CARES! My friends are hockey fans. They read what you wrote, and they can't believe how fixated you are on this incident. If I come back here in about eight months,you'll probably still be jawing and talking smack with other posters about this assault. GET A LIFE, SPACEMAN
No personal stake? I hurt myself laughing! You are spending more time talking about this than Todd Bertuzzi's lawyer, and you have "no personal stake." I almost feel sorry for you. I saw another video on this incident, and there you are, frothing at the mouth like a dog with rabies. Dude, the funniest part of all is YOU calling OTHER people "stupid." Stupid? Keep typing, man. You have found your lot in life. Arguing for months on out on youtube about some hockey incident from four years ago.
No personal stake, huh? Oh, OK. You are just LEISURELY spending your ENTIRE LFE talking smack with hundreds of other posters about this incident that happened several years ago? Gee, I would hate to see how much time and energy you spend on something that you would DO have a personal stake in. TODD BERTUZZI is living a comfortable life, and YOU are spending your entire life debating and "talking smack" about this........ You DO understand that Todd Bertuzzi doesn't give a shit about you, right?
Holy shit! This BARNEY FRANK SUX DICK fellow has been foaming at the mouth about this dumb incident FOR MONTHS! You would think that he has some personal stake in this! Imagine sitting in front of your computer, arguing on behalf of some NHL thug for WEEKS, even MONTHS? I have a friend that OCCASIONALLY goes on you tube and posts, but not to the extent of this "BARNEY FRANK" guy. He'll probably CONTINUE to rant and rave about this article for years to come! What a 'tard! He can't spell, either!
I tried to tell him that, but he's a lost cause. Just let him babble and scream if that's what turns him on. Someday, when he's on his death-bed, he'll probably scream at the top of his lungs, "Todd Bertuzzi kicked Steve Moore's ass!" The least he could do is learn how to construct a sentence on at least a fifth-grade level. Whatever.
I notice that you spend the better part of your life arguing on behalf of this guy, Todd Bertuzzi. Get a life, you loser. Todd Bertuzzi WOULDN'T GIVE THE SWEAT FROM HIS BALLS FOR YOU if you were in any kind of trouble.
Yes, Steve Moore had a career. He was only 25 years old, and he was in his first FULL SEASON as a rookie. He was in his third season in THE NHL overall. Hockey players play well into their 40's these days. Todd Bertuzzi is a low-life.
Yes, Moore DID have a craeer. In fact, that was his FIRST FULL SEASON in the NHL. Moore had played in all 58 games of the season up until that point, and was on his way to playing in all 82 games that season before the scumbag sucker-punched him.
i can't believe to this day that there are idiots out there that believe that moore deserved to have his career ended for a legal hit. it's unbelievable how ignorant people can be. you idiots deserve to go through the pain that he went through and is still going through and then maybe you will have some sympathy.
What incensed the Canucks was the fact that Moore didn't even try to go for the puck against Naslund. Instead, he chose to go for a hit when Naslund was in a vulnerable position. It's unfortunate that Moore was hurt as badly as he was but you know the old saying: what goes around comes around.
Wow, apparently none of you know shit about the Code. Bertuzzi broke it. Yeah, Moore hit Nasland and Bertuzzi was one of his best friends, but Moore paid for it at the beginning of the game when he fought and got beaten. That's the code. They got retribution. After someone has been avenged, you don't still go after him. He should never have done that. What Bertuzzi did is against the Code. And if any of you knew the history behind it, you wouldn't be saying Moore deserved it.
Normally i dont like bertuzzi and moore is a chump even before all this started,but he got what he gave.And that wasent a sucker punch bertuzzi was tugging on moore trying to bait him into fighting and moore kept ignoring him,he desevered to get throttled.
this is just disgusting. bertuzzi is a fukin bitch and i will hate him forever. i mean if he wanted payback ok. but u dont have to do that and fukin paralize him. he should of fukin went to jail. i mean i play hockey but if my best player got hit. i would probably go to get payback like big hit or fight. but not sucker punch him and drive his head into the ice. just disgusting
sure Moore did that to Naslund but Bertuzzi shouldn't go fucking ape on Moore, that was a clean hit Moore did on Naslund and Bertuzzi shouldn't do that. Bertuzzi can suck a cock for I care, 'cause Beruzzi is the #2 asshole in the NHL, Avery is the #1 asshole of the NHL. PUT THAT IN YOUR FUCKING STRAW AND SUCK IT!!!
ATTENTION: Paul has made his 4th account. He now clearly knows that no one supports him, and Canadian's who like Bertuzzi have found out that Paul is a retarded red neck who despises Canadians despise him. Do your best to just ignore what Paul says. Were winning and he's losing keep ignoring him everyone your doing a great job!
youre a fuckin idiot, idc if its gretzky or steve moore ending another persons career is fucked, soon bertuzzi will get whats coming to him, hes going to cheap shot team in anaheim where he belongs
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Totatu2 5 months ago
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BenAmorFan 5 months ago
asshole
coolgameonxbox360 5 months ago
hyi mikä homo
valmiustila 5 months ago 17
@valmiustila iltalehti
Leetonen 5 months ago 9
Either way, my side won. I am pretty excited about it. Moore got nothing and is fucked. he was put in a wheelchair because of his antics, lost his job, was bertuzzi's bitch, no money left, etc. sucks to be moore.
One more thing. funny how you complain where the puck was on bertuzzi's clean hit, but never mention the fact that moore let the puck off his stick just so he could sucker naslund. nice 1 sided view there buddy. you make me laugh.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 I don't mention that because the puck was right there Moore had the right to hit Naslund in that situation, He had the choice to play the puck or the Body he played the body, A lot different then punching someone in the back of the head when the puck is 80 so feet away
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy3131
No. puck wasnt right there. Moore let it off his stick so he could sucker naslund. why do you think crawford was so pissed off. a 4th line garbage player running your captain?? of course he was pissed.
You are too extreme. the truth is somewhere in between 1) moore's hit was clean and 2) Bertuzzi's hit was clean. But you maintain your astoundingly idiotic stance that moore's hit was clean. Never seen a sucker elbow to the forehead be considered a clean hit.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 the puck was right there You can see the bloody thing in the video, Crawford gets pissed anytime a player of his is hit
Well It was, He never left his feet, He never extended his elbow, He had the right to play the body in that situation, The only reason Naslund was hit in the head was because he reached for the puck like a retard, It was Naslunds actions who caused the hit to occur in the manner that it did, Naslund himself has said something along those lines,
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy3131
if moore never touched the puck, you would have a point. the point is that steve had a chance to play the puck. he had no interest in that. he chose instead to let the puck roll off his stick and sucker hit naslund with a dirty elbow. I hope naslund recovers fully. It was a brutal elbow.
Again, you would have a point if moore and naslund were both fighting for the puck. but they werent. moore just let that puck roll off his stick. only so he could sucker naz. which he did.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Naslund was back in action 3 games later.
Did it ever occur to you that neither player had control of the puck and that Moore could have just been bracing himself for Naslund to run into him? of course it didn't...your mind hasn't broadened to that point yet.
I agree fully with duffy3131...there's a person with hockey knowledge for you...
riddick388 8 months ago
@riddick388
your stupidity keeps growing each time your fingers hit the keyboard. it is astounding. Moore had the puck on his stick n blew it off in order to sucker nas.
this is getting reeeal old.
duffy31311 8 months ago
@duffy31311 i know...especially since you cant prove to me that he intended to 'sucker' naslund...or any other player (yzerman, Lecavelie, St Louis)
Maybe you could prove me wrong...
and what's with the insult? Oh because you still havent prooven me wrong...now you're in a corner right? :)
riddick388 8 months ago
@riddick388
first thing you learn in hockey is to keep your head up. Keep your head up steve, bitch!!!
duffy31311 3 months ago
@duffy31311 Shows what you know...
Spectators think they can understand...
The first thing you learn in hockey is how to skate, pass, and shoot.
Maybe Naslund shouldn't have skated into Moore.
I guess Chris Draper should have skated out of the way of Claude Lemieux too.
riddick388 3 months ago
@riddick388
not really. you have to keep your head up. if moore did that, he wouldnt look like a guy with a fuckin cup in his hand. pay attention on the ice steve when someone grabs your jersey! dont be a bitch and run!
duffy31311 3 months ago
Plus I dont see what bertuzzi did as being that bad. It wasnt a bad hit. Moore just took the brunt of it. Maybe steve can have better on ice awareness next time. Bertuzzi warned him over and over and grabbed his jersey and yelled at him.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 True because it wasn't a hit at all it was a sucker punch to the back of the head, That is what is wrong with that play, The puck was no where near and Bertuzzi wanted blood and suckerpunched a guy in the back of the head, That isn't a hit at all that is assault
duffy3131 9 months ago
There is a diference between getting revenge for a bad hit and ending someones career...
WashingtonCaps4Life 9 months ago
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It's unfortunate what happened to moore, but that is just hockey. shit happens.
duffy31311 9 months ago
steve moore blind sided naslund in that game. THe fact is it is hockey and people get hit like that from time to time. moore is just a baby. I am glad the lockout happened the following season so Bertuzzi's suspension really did not matter. Enjoy the golf course Moore u av piece of shit. Look at what lemiux did to draper. Still nothing happened to that fag frenchie piece of shit. GO WINGS!!!
paintball4001 9 months ago
@paintball4001
agree. what bert did was just hockey. its code. what steve moore did was inexcusable. there is no place in the game for steve moore's sucker hits.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@paintball4001 Hey, How in the hell was that a blindside, That was a north south collision go look at some of Matt Cookes hits, Nothing like what Moore did he went in for a clean hockey play, Naslunds actions turned it into what it was,
duffy3131 9 months ago
What actually broke Moore's neck? It couldn't have been the suckerpunch, the hard landing could've done it, but if that was the case his bones were pretty damn weak, so I honestly think it was the added pressure of the four other guys jumping on trying to play the 'hero'. What Bertuzzi did was wrong, but Moore's hit on Naslund wasn't good, either. The distinct swaying into Naslund and the raising of the elbow prove that. Whether it was accidental or not doesn't matter at this point in time.
MacroFuzzXD 11 months ago
Oh I see, you're trolling. Disregard.
helmholz 11 months ago
pretty amazing that moore didnt know to keep his head up. terrible.
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
We see something similar in Chara-Pacioretty. In both cases, the NHL referees failed to prevent something left over from an earlier game from boiling over. In fact, they use the "rivalries" and the violence to sell the game in their advertisements, for example in their "fussin' and fightin'" video. It is sad that the world's most skilled players have to deal with this, because clearly hockey can exist without it. It does at college levels and below. It's time to stop the violence against people.
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 Not too mention the Olympics, That is the best hockey out there, There is more skill in every game, It's much faster and more exciting and It's still physical but you do not see the crap that happens way too much in the NHL,
The sad part is we only see that type of hockey every four years, And it might not be as great the next time around depending on what the NHL does with the CBA next year, They better keep the NHlers there
duffy3131 11 months ago
@duffy3131 It is the "its part of the game" attitude that is the problem. Clearly it is not if these other hockey competitions (like the olympics, as you say) don't have it. People need to recognize that the players are not just robots serving a function of playing on your favorite team or your most hated team. They are human beings who are important to their families and friends, and people who do enough to endanger their bodies for our entertainment already. Whats next, bring a gun on the ice?
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 Could not agree with that statement anymore,
duffy3131 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1
bertuzzi's hit on moore is indeed just part of the game. that's hockey folks. If you dont like it, dont watch it.
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
Ya know ur tough when u fight on u tube.
a69a59b 1 year ago
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Moore should be in JAIL for that sucker hit on naslund. and if moore could keep his head UP, the dipshit wouldnt be in a fuckin wheelchair droolin all over himself
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
Yes, I don't think cartes blanche is ever really in play amongst civilized human beings, nor is it something to be coveted. "Oh, I fuckin hate this asshole- and his back is turned....Doesn't mean "Better shoot him in the back of the head" to me. If anything, I WANT the dude to know what hit him.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
well, the point is that if you mess up, you pay. and you turn around and keep your head up.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Todd did mess up and he is paying and will continue to pay. Moore was as aware of his surroundings as he needed to be and WAS going to turn around inevitably, so this was all unnecessary. Hella Weak as Cartman would put it.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
"" will continue to pay. ""
lol
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
I'm glad that tickles you- why not call Todd up and ask how funny he thinks it is?
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
he would laugh too. you see, all bertuzzi's costs are what is called sunk costs. Its over. all in the past. Now he is making millions, and in the rear view mirror is some gold diggin pest trying to make millions off lawsuits cause he had zero hockey talent. judge knew.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Judge knew, did he? Perhaps you can part from your typical trolling teapublican tactics and back that up?
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
back it up?? you are killin me. lol. Moore has received nothing. you, my friend, are the one who needs to back up a claim that bertuzzi has to pay something out to moore.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Oh, I've laid out why Bert's gonna pay Moore plenty of times- and not only have you not refuted any of it, you actually conceded the point on a couple of occasions. I can back up everything I say, because I think intellectual honesty is important. I know teabaggers don't feel the same way- but I won't stoop to your level. But yea, show me something that proves that a judge (ANY judge) feels that Moore has a frivolous case and it was thrown out for that reason. Can't wait.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
boy--you are a legend in your own mind. I never would concede anything, as you sound like a complete moron when talking about this case.
problem is that you make sense in YOUR mind, the mind of someone who likes the urban dictionary--but no judge would agree with you. thats why moore has nothing. and dont tell me the "case is still being heard" LOL! I love that one. yeah, it normally takes 8 years to try a case that included one hit. lol.
what can you back up? Moore is still broke.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
lol, so you've either got a bad memory or you're a liar, too. Well that fits the teabag mold as well.
ANYHOO... The case hasn't been heard. It was tossed out of Colorado for jurisdictional reasons and hasn't been in court since. And yes, I can prove that if you'd like. You claimed you had an inside source that reported the case was thrown out again- got proof?
And where exactly do I sound like a complete moron on this? And be specific this time- Stop dodgin' me, boy!
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
typical stupid democrat, makin shit up. lol. the only thing you know about is a donkey punch.
case was tossed out of court. do you know what that means? Frivilous. not important. waste of time.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
You know, it comes as absolutely no surprise at all that an intellectually dishonest troll who has spent years of his life justifying a crime is of the Tea Bag ilk. None whatsoever.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
HELLA Weak!! I got that one from the urban dictionary, my bible! I am not conservative. I get all my information from south park and the urban dictionary! I am democrat. liberal.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Wow, how did we end up on this weird tangent? Oh that's right, I was trying to have an adult discussion with a teabagger. What was I thinking? Well lesson learned.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings Sorry, but democrats are just as fascist as republicans. The most liberal of the US mainstream is really quite conservative compared to places like Europe.
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1
yeah, and US and canada are the two most successful countries in the world. and they are both conservative.
what does that tell ya?
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
@hockeyfanredwings nazis were conservative. so were monarchs. so are the taliban and all the radical muslims. what does that tell you?
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@hockeyfanredwings Canada is not Conservative, In fact is a fairly liberal country, Have you ever been here?
Yes we have a Conservative leader, But it is a minority government, We had a liberal government for 13 years in a row, And guess what the leader retired and that's the only reason Stephen Harper won the election because the liberals did not find a good replacement
duffy3131 11 months ago
Wat a douche bertuzzi should b still suspended from the nhl today
hskates121 1 year ago
@hskates121
steve moore, bitch extroardinaire...
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
why wouldnt moore man up and fight his DUE fight? scared?
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings Uhh because he had already fought Matt Cooke earlier in the game?
jonc1991 1 year ago
@jonc1991
nice try but cooke wasnt his fight. moore chose cooke because he was scared of bertuzzi and had turned bert down in order to fight a weaker kid. not cool.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings Moore and Cooke were pretty much in the same weight class as each other so yes it was an equal fight. Moore had already answered for his crime in hockey terms and Bert was just frustrated. Theres nothing you can say that would justify what Bertuzzi did as a good thing.
jonc1991 1 year ago
@jonc1991
let me explain how the league works. you mess up like moore did, fight is with the goon. you cant pass up the goon. Moore had NOT answered for the crime. thats the problem.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings In Moore's opinion he had already answered the call and fought Cooke so there was no reason for him to fight Bertuzzi. Bertuzzi was just pissed off because his team was losing like 8-2 or something in that game and was looking for someway to vent. Just look at the whole Cooke-Savard situation. Cooke took out Savard for far more games than what Moore did to Naslund, and he fought once and it was over with. What do you expect Cooke to do? Fight the entire Bruins team?
jonc1991 1 year ago
@jonc1991
boy, Moore should have looked up the rules before playing. you NEVER sucker hit a captain like that and then hide from the fight. Bertuzzi had asked to fight long before cooke accidently bumped into moore. Moore was scared and chose to fight a weaker guy. not cool. pissed em all off more.
Moore would have been fine IF cooke were the first to ask. but bert just couldnt get moore to man up. so moore chose cooke. get it?
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings You're right Moore should've just fought Bertuzzi, but what Bertuzzi did was wrong and Moore did not deserve to have his neck broken, his career ended, and to suffer permanent irreversable head damages. Any attempt to justify what Bertuzzi did is just plain stupidty and the people who actaully try to defend Bertuzzi are mostly Canucks fans who are too proud to say their team screwed up and own up to their mistakes.
jonc1991 1 year ago
@jonc1991
not really. use your brain and look at it from moore's perspective. he sucked. shit player, was on the way out, and this was his way to make a buck. sucker hit, rile em up, and then when you get punched filed 'stupid' lawsuits. it was worth a shot even though moore got nothing.
look at mcdonalds coffee. some money hungry gold digger like moore sued because he spilled hot coffee on himself and won. that is what moore is obviously trying to do.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings Oh really? who are you to say he was never going to make it in the NHL? Plenty of guys that "suck" still manage to stay in the league or AHL long enough to feed their families for a lifetime. And comparing spilling hot coffee to breaking somebody's neck and causing permanent physical and psychological damage is just retarded. Fact is Bertuzzi fucked up, he knows and the majority of the hockey world knows it except for a few nucks and bertuzzi fans who still try to defend him.
jonc1991 1 year ago
@jonc1991
moore was sucker hittin stars dumbass. why was he doing that? sounds desperate to me. Just glad moore didnt get a dime from bertuzzi and bertuzzi is still out there makin milliions. ha ha. sucks to be moore huh?
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@jonc1991
You are correct, jon. In fact, one fellow Center that Moore had a better rookie season than that I know of off the top of my head..... Markus Naslund.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
then why was moore permanently demoted to the 4th line. as in, for good. hmmmm. makes you wonder why moore was out sucker hittin stars
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Point is no one knows what would've become of Moore if Bert doesn't sucker punch him. Anyone is free to speculate, but nobody knows. Naslund had a similarly forgettable rookie season and rose to prominence. Not saying Moore would've or could've, I can't do that because I don't know. Nobody knows.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
only avalanche fans dont know what moore was. everyone else does. he was human shit. thats why moore was sucker hitting stars. to try and make a name for himself because he was demoted to the 4th line permanently. and if moore wanted to do well in the league, he never should have ran away from facing the music on the payback fight. point is--if ya want longevity, dont sucker hit stars and then hide. period. cause you get what is comin to ya.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Only Avalanche fans had a clue who Moore even WAS before all this lol. Dislike the guy all you want, but he was not talentless- albeit perhaps a *bit* naive. But in either case, sucker punching anyone is weak, but especially when the guy's running away! That makes it even worse! There's nothing that Bert or the Canucks wanted to do that couldn't have been done effectively face to face with Moore. And clearly, hitting him from behind didn't do anybody a lick of good.
GrassValleyGreg 1 year ago
@GrassValleyGreg
ha ha. well, i suppose we just see it differently. in detroit, if you act like a punk your punishment is--well, whatever that person decides it is. that's how it works. if you mess up, you pay. and then you take it like a man, dust yourself off, and move on.
remember, moore COULD get a job. he isnt exactly talented enough.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
:41 to :44 seconds is great!
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
Hey kenny boy, what the hell is a "douches bag"? Is that a special type of canadian douche bag? boy, you and your 80K must be ready for retirement huh?
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
that's all you make? What are you doing wrong? Maybe go back to school. lol
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
but you guys think about us a lot. we dont think about you.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
Ever think that Crawford told Bertuzzi to hit Moore? Cause the Coach was wining like a little school girl after the Naslund hit. But, I have a question to all of the unintelligent idiots out there, how could Moore fight Bertuzzi when he broke his neck? Is he just going to get up and fight. Yes Moore hit Naslund, but the Canucks were out for blood when he punched him from behind and then forced his head onto the ice as he did pus his weight onto him.
Krupskiwazere 2 years ago
i despise bertuzzi too but watching this video i realized that if the avalanche player hadn't jumped on bertuzzi while he was still bringing moore to the ice moore may not have been hurt as bad
dastoogeman 2 years ago
Guy lies there with a broken neck and the classy Vancouver fans cheer while Crawford laughs.
Same Vancouver losers who wanted McSorely charged???
HYPOCRITES!!
TheVigilanteMan 2 years ago
Actually, I'm an avs fan, but I have to give the Canucks fans their due. As soon as they realized it was really serious they stopped cheering.
jackavsfan 2 years ago
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steve moore is the biggest pussy bitch to ever lace up skates. FIGHT if you sucker a guy bitch. your fight was bertuzzi bitch.
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
Your an idiot. and your last sentance doesnt even make sense
abrod01 2 years ago
Makes tons of sense if you know hockey. Bertuzzi was his fight. Moore was a scared bitch.
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
your a fucking retard man and your probably the biggest pussy there is... moore's hit on naslund was clean and bertuzzi is the bigger bitch for throwing a cheap shot like that
thallas60 2 years ago
bertuzzi's hit was clean dumbass.
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
@thallas60
Are you joking?
Beltonbackwards 2 years ago
Okay, to be fair. This is old news, as Bertiuzzi tried to communicate to others, he`s moved on. Got over all this shit. Sure, he hasn't clinched the cup. So what? A lot of players haven't done so either. And seriously...Moore just needs to forgive and forget. Get a new job or something...jeez...
And the Canucks are amazing btw. In my opinion of course.
CSIMiamiAddict 2 years ago
How easily would you forgive and forget if someone broke your neck.
Especially when he and his team mates said before the game that there would be a bounty on your head.
I'm sure you'd be fine with it right?
TheVigilanteMan 2 years ago
Forgive and forget? I know everybody says he sucked, but Moore was actually a promising player for the Avalanche. Bertuzzi ended his career in hockey, and prevented him from doing many other things. I'll bet wherever he finds work, its not going to pay 1 mil. Thats why Moore has these suits against Bertuzzi.
jackavsfan 2 years ago
Moore = scared pussy
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
you know what fuck you and grow a dick hockeyfanredwings.
naterv11 2 years ago 2
did moore write the vagina monologues?
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
payback time pussy avalanche bitch! ha ha hah bet that pussy bitch wished he never met bertuzzi.
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
umm you should stop posting things in general, it's hard to read what you're even trying to say because you suck a giant amount of dick at speaking i guess, plus you make no sense...typical wings hick, sigh
BrownstownMr 2 years ago
read much? It was payback time, you pussy bitch Moore!
hockeyfanredwings 2 years ago
@naterv11
hit was clean. much cleaner that that sucker hit on naslund. dirty hit. Moore could have done a LOT of jail time for that assault on naslund. NOT cool.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
guys can you STFU? I am a hockey fan too but did you know more people watch NASCAR than NHL? To be frank; No one really gives a fuck. For real.
I met Bertuzzi in a sport chek in Calgary, I shook his hands, talked to him. Didn't bring up the moore thing. Lots of other people came up to him and talked to him. No one brought it up. Yes the whole incident sucks. But it's basically done and you guys bitch talking about it ain't gonna do nothing. Now it's just between their lawyers and the 2 men.
magicalpoop 3 years ago 2
what moore did to naslund wasn't as dirty as what bertuzzi did. moore was finishing his check, and you can clearly see that he was lowering his shoulder....naslund was very low, to the point where his knee was almost on the ice. so moore didn't intentionally do the damage that he did, nor did bertuzzi. BUT, bertuzzi is a fucking goon that can't even fight the guy fairly, he has to grab him from behind and sucker punch him, ruining moore's career. bertuzzi should have been banned from the nhl.
aLpHaDoG2008 3 years ago
Now, Moore's hit wasn't clean. That was a dirty hit. He should have been given a misconduct, maybe. But the Canucks didn't get the call. Instead, they took matters into their own hands, and nearly killed Moore. and to all you canucks fans that say it evens out, LIKE HELL IT DOES! Naslund was out for 1 game. Moore's been out for 5 years. He'll never be able to get a job that pays that well with his disabilities...
jackavsfan 2 years ago 6
@jackavsfan In general, I believe the NHL referees, acting as slaves to the capitalist NHL pigs who clearly will sacrifice a human being's well-being in order to sell a few tickets, who are at fault. Most large brawls and violent behavior results from the incompetency of these boobs.
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 I am sorry but there is no blame to the referees here, Yes there should be some blame to Garry bettman and company but not the referees themselves They called the steve Moore hit as it was, LEGAL, But the NHL failed to dissolve the situation when they knew it was going to happen, They knew something like this was bound to happen, Garry Bettman even attended the game in between both incidents to try and stop it
He should have let the Refs have more power in the game But he didn't
duffy3131 11 months ago
@duffy3131 You may be right., because the referees simply do what their corporate masters tell them or they get fired. Good call.
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 They could have told both the Avs and The Canucks that both teams would have heavy financial penaltys if anything happens, As well as the coaches, Then Moore wouldn't have been on the ice, And Crawford wouldn't have sent guys after him problem solved, But saying this Bertuzzi is still the one too blame, Becuase no one forced him to do what he did
duffy3131 11 months ago
@duffy3131 Part of the problem was perhaps that Moore was not penalized as badly as the Canucks felt he should have been. (I am an Avs fan and I can't stand the Canucks.) I think that when refs and the league let things go like that, there will be problems. I am a Habs fan too, and I seriously hope that we don't see escalations of violence with the Chara incident, but the league clearly doesn't take a broken neck seriously. Stuff like that ruins it.
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 Yes But you can't suspend a player for a legal hit, Now The league knew something was going to happen because several Canucks made statements following the game about getting Moore, but decided to do nothing,
The league handled the Berutzzi incident fairly well except the fact they thought Bertuzzi served his sentence during the lockout, Which I feel should not count and He should have been out the next season as well but thats my opinion,
duffy3131 11 months ago
@duffy3131
what bertuzzi did to moore was just part of the game. its part of hockey code. what steve moore did was inexcusable. there is no place in the game for steve moore's sucker hits.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Seriously are you just trying to bring me back into this arguement, With a cloned account to boot, I know you are nothing but a troll, so what you think doesn't matter to me, What Moore did was a hockey play the reason the hit ended up as it did was based on Naslunds actions, Not Moores, Now what Bertuzzi did was not part of the game of hockey or the code, Never should you hit someone in the back of the head and send them to the ice like that
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy3131
I think you are insane. how the hell is what moore did a "hockey Play"? sorry friend. a sucker elbow to the forehead of a star, giving him a concussion, is disgusting. and it warranted the payback moore got. period. you can bitch n moan all you want but at the end of the day, moore lost and bertuzzi won. game set match.
there is no place in the game for sucker hits like moore's assault on naslund.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 haha I'm insane, Says the guys who has spent years on youtube argueing that over several different usernames,
Moore went in for a body check, He went to play the body not Hit someone in the back of the head, he never stuck his elbow out and never left his feet, His feet were planted to the ground when going for the hit, Naslund could have easily seen him coming, The onus for this hit lays on Naslund not Moore, Moore went to play the body and Naslund left himself in a bad position
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy31311 It doesn't matter who he hit, star player or not, That was a good play, Though it ended badly for Naslund, But Naslunds actions caused the hit to end up like that not Moores, That hit was very similar to the ones that Scott Stevens used to throw, completely legal but looked bad becasue the other guy was not ready for it
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy3131
That's not my argument. I personally dont care if naslund was a star and that is who he hit. But Moore blew off the puck to deliver a cheap blow--and it happened to be an impact player. So of course there is going to be hell to pay. what did steve think?
a "good play" as you say is not that one. Moore just let the puck off his stick and jammed an elbow into naslund. how is that a good play? lol. It is laughable to think that. stevens never used an elbow. period.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Ya neither did Moore in that particular hit, His elbow was not extended it was in tight with his body the only reason his elbow came close to Naslunds head was because of Naslunds actions, And in that situation you have the choice to play the puck or the body, Moore chose the body, It was a good play on Moores behalf, Naslunds actions cause the collision to look like it did, Moore went in for a clean hit, Nasluns left himself in a bad position
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy3131
you are missing so many things I really dont know where to start. you act like they were both goin for the puck. no. moore let the puck off his stick on purpose in order to stuff his elbow in moore's forehead, which from the video you can see happened.
stevens would hit guys who were traveling with the puck. get it? a good solid hit on a guy who had the puck. Moore was just out to sucker hit. moore is not stevens, an enforcer. he was a sucker hitting cheap shot artist.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@duffy31311 No, I am not acting like they were both going for the puck what i am saying is in that particular situation Moore had the right to chose to play the body rather then the puck that is what he did, Second Naslunds actions caused the elbow to be near his head not Moore's, The onus lies with Naslund there,
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Stevens hit guys who either had just had the puck or were going for the puck as well, I am not comparing the two players I am comparing that particular hit with some of the ones stevens through during his career, which you can draw some similarities between them that is all i am saying
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Well quite bringing up the fact Naslund was a star player you seem to be making a point on that,
duffy3131 9 months ago
@duffy31311 Stevens never used his elbow but he did catch a few guys with his elbow the way Moore did, He never extended his elbow but when he hit sometimes the guy was low and looking down and his elbow did end up conecting that was the point i was trying to make, It was similar in the fact that he didn't stick out his elbow but based on Naslunds actions his elbow ended up making contact
duffy3131 9 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 Yes neither do I,, And I place the blame on the League and the owners, The New rules involving clutching and grabbing helped make it so Chara had little choice but to do what he did, And the owner of the Habs knew his arena was unsafe but did not make the necessary changes in order to save money, Most NHL owners are in the same boat as well
duffy3131 11 months ago
@DerangedRanger1 That glass that is there between the benches should not be there, If they want to keep it they should redesign how it is set up, Change the angle of the turnbuckle and that might not have happened the way it did,
Those turnbuckles there are just a death sentence, Someone will die from being sent into one of those unless they are changed
duffy3131 11 months ago
@jackavsfan I realize you left this comment here a year ago, but I just don't see how you can say Moore's hit wasn't clean. Naslund does a lunging chop and put himself into an extremely compromised position after Moore was already going for the hit, and they weren't very far apart. I'm sure some people will say he extended his elbow from the footage, but to me if you watch both arms it looks like he's just naturally moving them after the force of the collision. Everything else I agree with.
helmholz 11 months ago
@helmholz
cause moore stuffed an elbow into naslund's forehead with a sucker hit. was elbowing, interference and charging. all 3. lol. dirtier hit than bertuzzi's clean hit on moore.
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
@hockeyfanredwings
Are we watching the same video? Any elbow to head contact is caused by Naslund lowering his body by kneeling, any calls of charging are nullified by the fact that his skates were on the ice and planted until contact is made when the collision knocks both of them down, and interference, nope. Both guys were going for the puck and Moore braces himself for contact while Naslund didn't.
helmholz 11 months ago
@helmholz
No, the assault by moore was due to moore lowering his elbow with a very targeted sucker hit on naslund. If naslund didnt lunge, moore obviously still had intent to injure. refs missed that one. big mistake, as it ended moores 'career'. if you want to call it that.
It actually was interference--by definition a man cannot prevent another man from getting the puck. I think steve moore should just shut the F up. you blew it steve. deal with it. next time man up and fight.
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
@helmholz
Nobody is trolling. Just sick and tired of people who do not understand hockey. It was interference. Period. could have been charging and elbowing too.
further, moore did not settle it up by fighting cooke. cooke wasnt the enforcer. everyone would like to settle a debt by fighting a pussy. Bert was his fight, but moore was too much of a bitch to fight.
Now, hopefully I will stop reading the classic ignorance such as "Moore answered the bell when he fought cooke" sigh. stupid
hockeyfanredwings 11 months ago
@jackavsfan I hope you realize that he's made like 10 million off of lawsuits.
LittleG1x2x3 10 months ago
@LittleG1x2x3
10 million doesn't get him right back on the ice.
Benjamin723 9 months ago
@LittleG1x2x3
Moore? Moore has not made a dime off any lawsuit. in fact, the one he filed in the US got tossed out. frivolous.
duffy31311 9 months ago
@aLpHaDoG2008 I agree to an extent, but I think the problem is more than Bertuzzi, McSorley, Chara, etc. The problem is that the NHL is a culture that encourages this kind of violence. It starts at the top level with Bettman and flows all the way down to the refs, coaches, players, and even the fans. What needs to happen is people need to re-evaluate what hockey is: how do we minimize the risk of people getting hurt with life threatening injuries?
DerangedRanger1 11 months ago
Oh well, the world keeps turning as long as Bert doesn't get his hands on the Cup. Funny, he chases that thing around like he chases Moore here.
"I'll go to Detroit because they never choke....damn, well Anaheim won so surely they'll do it again next year, I'll go there.....GOD DAMN IT!"
avsfan331940 3 years ago 3
haha how true
avsfan7 3 years ago 2
@avsfan331940
at least bertuzzi is still makin millions and moore is a condom salesman. lol
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@hockeyfanredwings As long as Bert keeps cursing the teams he plays for, he can make as much as he wants. I'm just happy that he'll never get his grimy hands on the Cup :)
avsfan331940 1 year ago
@avsfan331940
possibly. I am just happy that A. Moore can never injure another star player with another sucker hit and B. moore will never see a dime from his lawsuits.
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
@avsfan331940
did you think steve whine and sue some moore did anything wrong?
hockeyfanredwings 1 year ago
all i got to say is vancouver SUCKS i would never cheer for them and i even live in vancouver.
btw bertuzzi is retared and should be kicked out of the NHL! hes also a whimp for doing it like that i would of just rocked moore open ice!
bisnach23 3 years ago
barney, apparently your mother didnt hug you enough when you were young or perhaps your father used to call you a pussy for getting beat up by the neighborhood bully?
WhiteOwlTube 3 years ago
Go man, go! Don't take any crap from anyone! This five year-old incident is REALLY IMPORTANT! Enough to spend every hour of your waking time arguing about it. Sure, nobody gives a rat's ass about it anymore... But YOU have a VERY IMPORTANT JOB of posting again and again and again and again about Todd Bertuzzi and Steve Moore. EARTH TO BARNEY FRANK. EARTH TO BARNEY FRANK........... Nobody gives a shit! But you keep right on typing away, buddy. It's an EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE use of your time.
TysonSucksDick7 3 years ago
If I think about it? Obviously, you miss the entire point. You're not a hockey fan, you are a crazed psychopath that spends your ENTIRE LIFE screaming about how one guy is a puss, the other guy did a good job, etc. NOBODY CARES! My friends are hockey fans. They read what you wrote, and they can't believe how fixated you are on this incident. If I come back here in about eight months,you'll probably still be jawing and talking smack with other posters about this assault. GET A LIFE, SPACEMAN
anitapeelson 3 years ago
No personal stake? I hurt myself laughing! You are spending more time talking about this than Todd Bertuzzi's lawyer, and you have "no personal stake." I almost feel sorry for you. I saw another video on this incident, and there you are, frothing at the mouth like a dog with rabies. Dude, the funniest part of all is YOU calling OTHER people "stupid." Stupid? Keep typing, man. You have found your lot in life. Arguing for months on out on youtube about some hockey incident from four years ago.
anitapeelson 3 years ago
No personal stake, huh? Oh, OK. You are just LEISURELY spending your ENTIRE LFE talking smack with hundreds of other posters about this incident that happened several years ago? Gee, I would hate to see how much time and energy you spend on something that you would DO have a personal stake in. TODD BERTUZZI is living a comfortable life, and YOU are spending your entire life debating and "talking smack" about this........ You DO understand that Todd Bertuzzi doesn't give a shit about you, right?
WilfredBenitezFan 3 years ago
Holy shit! This BARNEY FRANK SUX DICK fellow has been foaming at the mouth about this dumb incident FOR MONTHS! You would think that he has some personal stake in this! Imagine sitting in front of your computer, arguing on behalf of some NHL thug for WEEKS, even MONTHS? I have a friend that OCCASIONALLY goes on you tube and posts, but not to the extent of this "BARNEY FRANK" guy. He'll probably CONTINUE to rant and rave about this article for years to come! What a 'tard! He can't spell, either!
WilfredBenitezFan 3 years ago
I tried to tell him that, but he's a lost cause. Just let him babble and scream if that's what turns him on. Someday, when he's on his death-bed, he'll probably scream at the top of his lungs, "Todd Bertuzzi kicked Steve Moore's ass!" The least he could do is learn how to construct a sentence on at least a fifth-grade level. Whatever.
AnutaCatuna 3 years ago
I notice that you spend the better part of your life arguing on behalf of this guy, Todd Bertuzzi. Get a life, you loser. Todd Bertuzzi WOULDN'T GIVE THE SWEAT FROM HIS BALLS FOR YOU if you were in any kind of trouble.
AnutaCatuna 3 years ago
Yes, Steve Moore had a career. He was only 25 years old, and he was in his first FULL SEASON as a rookie. He was in his third season in THE NHL overall. Hockey players play well into their 40's these days. Todd Bertuzzi is a low-life.
anitapeelson 3 years ago
Yes, Moore DID have a craeer. In fact, that was his FIRST FULL SEASON in the NHL. Moore had played in all 58 games of the season up until that point, and was on his way to playing in all 82 games that season before the scumbag sucker-punched him.
TysonSucksDick7 3 years ago
ok you guys are idiots!!! moore did not deserve to have his career ended after a hit that was a frickin accident my gosh!!!
mightypanda22 3 years ago
3 games vs. a career. Hmmm that seems like a fair trade...
sxer99 3 years ago
i can't believe to this day that there are idiots out there that believe that moore deserved to have his career ended for a legal hit. it's unbelievable how ignorant people can be. you idiots deserve to go through the pain that he went through and is still going through and then maybe you will have some sympathy.
duvalfan 3 years ago
moore deserved it
jannman12 3 years ago
Naslund's a PUSSY!
guitarsnpucks 3 years ago
What incensed the Canucks was the fact that Moore didn't even try to go for the puck against Naslund. Instead, he chose to go for a hit when Naslund was in a vulnerable position. It's unfortunate that Moore was hurt as badly as he was but you know the old saying: what goes around comes around.
JustinFH 3 years ago
Wow, apparently none of you know shit about the Code. Bertuzzi broke it. Yeah, Moore hit Nasland and Bertuzzi was one of his best friends, but Moore paid for it at the beginning of the game when he fought and got beaten. That's the code. They got retribution. After someone has been avenged, you don't still go after him. He should never have done that. What Bertuzzi did is against the Code. And if any of you knew the history behind it, you wouldn't be saying Moore deserved it.
GaelicEyes10 3 years ago
Normally i dont like bertuzzi and moore is a chump even before all this started,but he got what he gave.And that wasent a sucker punch bertuzzi was tugging on moore trying to bait him into fighting and moore kept ignoring him,he desevered to get throttled.
rawdog268 3 years ago
this is just disgusting. bertuzzi is a fukin bitch and i will hate him forever. i mean if he wanted payback ok. but u dont have to do that and fukin paralize him. he should of fukin went to jail. i mean i play hockey but if my best player got hit. i would probably go to get payback like big hit or fight. but not sucker punch him and drive his head into the ice. just disgusting
lbuzz234 3 years ago
sure Moore did that to Naslund but Bertuzzi shouldn't go fucking ape on Moore, that was a clean hit Moore did on Naslund and Bertuzzi shouldn't do that. Bertuzzi can suck a cock for I care, 'cause Beruzzi is the #2 asshole in the NHL, Avery is the #1 asshole of the NHL. PUT THAT IN YOUR FUCKING STRAW AND SUCK IT!!!
ChainGangSoldiersJC 3 years ago
I have so many bad things to say about Bertuzzi but Im not cause I would run out of room lol.
edd1055 3 years ago
You Could Tell That Moore Was Out When He Hit Him But jumping on him made it worse.
StaryNight17 3 years ago
Ya Bertuzzi! Welcome to the flames
GO FLAMES GO!!!!!!!!!!
beazlay 3 years ago
disgusting
thprfssnl1 3 years ago
ATTENTION: Paul has made his 4th account. He now clearly knows that no one supports him, and Canadian's who like Bertuzzi have found out that Paul is a retarded red neck who despises Canadians despise him. Do your best to just ignore what Paul says. Were winning and he's losing keep ignoring him everyone your doing a great job!
jagged22 4 years ago
What's this about??
CSIMiamiAddict 2 years ago
oh yeah, cheap elbow.
youre a fuckin idiot, idc if its gretzky or steve moore ending another persons career is fucked, soon bertuzzi will get whats coming to him, hes going to cheap shot team in anaheim where he belongs
chris27438 4 years ago
Fuk you bertuzzi got to 1-1ell
tanishunter2 4 years ago
Bertuzzi should be in jail.
mjn76 4 years ago