the house of war wont rest until all the world is under islam even mohamad has the word mad init the asylums are full of people who talk to god so why belive a 6th century madman that changes his mind to suit himself plus he shags wee girls to make a religion out of this is total madness mohamad wanted to rule the world god didnt come into it it wasx all his will.and the virgins they will get in paradise will all be old catholic nuns lol thats the con dont listen to mohamad hes a con man
Qu'ran 9:30 - Ezra the son of God as claimed by Jews?
That is the joke of the century. There is no evidence that any Judaic sect thought this. Any Rabbi will mock you.
Qu'ran 4:157 - Jesus not crucified. Well that is the joke of the Millenia. Secular historians, New Testament authors all know that he was. How can someone living in Arabia 600years later try to disprove history.
It is like if i wrote 600years later that 9/11 never happened and said that it is a word of God.
dude what the hell u talking abhe belief out, some taable and shit, u need to make more research dude, the belief is that an angel revealed it to mohammed in stages lasting several years, included as being memorized by the mass before his death and it was written down on partmont paper by scribes in his life time this copy was copiled into one copy in the time of the first caliph (canonised) then revised in terms of adding certain written dotts, to help the reader, by the third caliph.
So why am i trying to say? Well, how can you translate something into another language that doesnt even support the letter. B/c arabic lacks a G, we replace it with the letter J, so Gary would be pronounced Jerry (but we arent stupid, we know its Gary and say it, bt spell it like Jerry).
Second, you want proof on why the Quran can never be 100% translated, well its all in the language. Arabic as a letter that is found in NO OTHER language on earth; the letter being DUAD or the heavy D. In the Quran, there are stray letters that we do not understand the meaning, and one of them is this letter.
because not even Satan knows what God knows, right? Satn doesnt know what these stray letters mean, b/c if he did, wouldnt he have told someone, you know, disobeying and disproving God.
Ever heard of Greek Linear A and B? They are ancient languages. One of them is still a complete mystery, so I guess that makes ancient Greek the language of God?
hahahaha, i thought God created language, so all languages are the langauge of God. I am saying that the quran cant be 100% translated out of the way it was revealed.
What your religious teachers have been saying is that Quarish Arabic is THE language of God. They are also saying that part of the evidence of uniqueness is that it can't be 100% translated. I am saying that this would also apply to every other untranslated item of any other language. So, there is nothing unique about Quarish Arabic.
here, lets look at history, each prophet had something to show they were the true prophets of God, Moses was able to perform real magic, Jesus was able to heal the sick, David had amazing strength, but why? Well, during those time periods, thats what civilizations mastered at the time. Moses time did magic, Jesus was the start of medicines, David needed strength to lead armies.
so whats my point here, at the time of Muhammad, poetry and language was the best skill. So to have mastery of Peotry, espicially being illerate, shows a certain power. Wouldnt you be shocked if a person you knew all your life performed open heart surgery without even knowing a thing about it? I sure would.
the amazing thing is that the quran wasnt even written until after the prophets death. He memorized everything the quran (about 600+ pages) and that it has no contradiction. He is a challengefor you Loth, i want you to give a two hour speech, non written, and make sure you memorized everything word by word, letter by letter, just by speaking it once. The prophet did it for 23 yrs, i am giving you 2 hrs, i bet you cant do it.
The amazing thing is that muhammad never ordered a compliaiton of the Quran, he himself said that whatever is forgoten is by the will of 'allah'. So, by preserving his sayings in a book, he have corrupted his teaching by preserving sayings that should have been forgotten upon the deaths of the Muslims who had memorized those particular verses.
Also, the hadiths have many stories of forgotten verses readded with new variattions and muhammad himself forgetting them often.
really, i never heard that if you forgot the quran, its okay. Plus, quran means recitation. So of course, you really cant hurt the quran, because it is recited, not really read. That why people who think shooting the quran, trashing the quran, and other things; in reality the words are the quran itself.
Hundreds of verses on Quran were lost during battles when in one battle alone ALL the reciters were killed,and those verses died with them...Also Aisha said a goat got into her tent (after MU's death) and ate the Surahs on Stoning and breastfeeding adult males...guess this so called "god"of the muslims couldnt protect his word! what a JOKE islam is!
Jacalboy needs to look up history of his own quran/hadith..there were SEVEN differing versions of Quran and when the SEVEN reciters asked MU which one was the correct one MU said ALL of them were correct..thats called schizophrenia,man
"When thou dost read the Qur'an, seek Allah's protection from Satan the rejected one." [HQ 16"98]
"Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan doth sow dissensions among them: For Satan is to man an avowed enemy." [HQ 17:53] "If a suggestion from Satan assail thy (mind), seek refuge with Allah; for He heareth and knoweth (all things)" [HQ 7:200]
Satan does not speak agaisnt himself. He is far too arrogant. Still, there is convincing evidence that your prophet was indeed influenced by Satan in the 'revelations'.
Satan is the ruler of this world, though his power has been limited until the Lord's Day, when he is cast into the Fire. Satan has established is capital in Mecca.
You speak as scribes did to Jesus. I'll let Jesus answer
'And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub (Satan)! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons". So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand' [Mark 3:22-24]
We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! [HQ 2:87]
Please note: the word "We" used is the plural not of numbers but of honour as used in most eastern languages
So did the scribes in their false pride of scriptures corrupted with human hands and hypocritical formalism accused Jesus of conspiring with Satan.
An irony it is that you make such ignorant claims that "Muhammed (peace & blessings of Allah on him) claimed to be possessed by satan". Unfortunately you follow the corrupt missionaries, biased and malicious orientalists who make up such stories. May god/ Allah/ dieu/ dios have mercy on you.
God has shown great mercy and blessings to me. I can only imagine His disappointment had He watched while I self-destructed a bomb and murdered innocent people in the same of Satan [allah].
Your 'prophet' did tell his wife Kadija that he beleived he was demon possessed, and it is a part of your history, not the imaginings of missionaries.
First, Loth, this is my first time actually watching this video, and all i can say is that, your "theories" can easily be proven wrong. You state that the Quran is not perfect arabic, okay, the Quran was the first true arabic grammar book, in fact saying the quran is incorrect is like saying a ruler does not know the measurements of distance, and is incorrect, which of course is ridiculous.
In arabic, there is a big difference when coming to dialogue. In fact, I sometimes cant understand my cousins from Egypt b/c the way they talk, and me being from Palestine, they have no idea what i am saying. My cousin in Palestine cant understand a few words cuz i speak village and he speaks city. The Quran was a means to provide the universal talk, but the quran didnt have words like Computers and Airports, so thats where Modern Standard Arabic comes in.
oh, like enlgish is? Thats why you guys dont even have half the words that arabic has. For example, Rouh and Neffs is debated all the time as either soul or spirit, and yet, when said in arabic, everyone understands the difference.
No one cliams that English is a perfect language which was uused to deliver God's message to mankind. Muslims are making that claim, and they are claiming that the SAME Arabic is still being spoken today. Wrong.
wait wait wait, your telling me that Jesus revealed the bible in english? When did that happen? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that Saint Paul invented ice cream lol.
so what we're saying that God did not reveal the bible in english, but in hebrew and greek, correct? well, people did tests on when the OT was revealed and the language used today. Some words are new, which means man used replace other words for other words. Have you seen the documentary called "The Exodus" by the history channe;?
Yes, there are differences between Biblical Hebrew and Modern Hebrew. Still, no Jew or Christian claims that even Biblical Hebrew is 'perfect' nor that the Torah was preserved in heaven in perfect Hebrew. Muslims ARE making such a claim with the Quran, and it is obviously false.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, o man, oh, hahahahahaha, you have to be........hahahahaha, sorry sorry, did.........did you just admit that God has grammar problems? hahahahahahahaha, c'mon Loth, really?
This is so stupid clearly this man is very unintelligent but I'll answer his question for the sake of the muslims lol, who was the first muslims. Muslim means believer, therefore Abraham was the first believer amongst his people, so was Jesus, so was Adam.
What the hell is up with the background pics anyway is that supposed to mean something lol?
Ok Lothair if our religion is pagan what does that make yours?. You supposedly drink the blood of Jesus, You changed the Sabbath to Sunday in celebration of the Roman Sun God, December 25th the Birthday of the Sun God, Decorations on trees, giving and recieveing gift all rituals by Pagans.
I have no idea what the pagan foundations of your religion mean to mine. We drink the Cup of Christ, which is the Blood of the New Covenant. Our sabbath is Sunday in honor of Christ's resurrection. You worship on Friday in honor of Frigga, the Norse Goddess.
Trees represent the 'tree of Jesse', who was the father of King David. The date of December 25th is nowhere in the Bible, so we may choose any day of the year we prefer.
Norse Goddess? The norse devolpe in Europe, not in arabia, second, we call Friday Yom Al Jummah meaning, The Day of Gathering. Second, Adam was created on the sixth day; the sixth day is Friday. See the connection?
We changed to friday, lol we don't abide to the distorted filthy christian Judiac faith. Our Ramadan is commanded by your God, oh wait son of a God, o wait son of man well.. lol whatever you believe it's bullshit.
We are warring against each other are you serious? who started WW1 who started WW2 who started the cold war who started the vietnam war who started the Gulf war, Who started the Iraq war. Why are we poor it's because you fund the dictators that run our countries. You people need to get a life but anyway since your God was breastfed and Jacob wrestled with him lol then go ahead.
And?! The Bible manuscripts were not. Instead they were always written down along with everything else. Common sense presents that the Bible is superior just by that.
To use textual-critical analysis with the Quran in the same way, and to the same degree, as Muslims examine the Bible. We'll see what we can discover, and hopefull come to a deeper and fuller understanding of Islamic history, literature and philosophy. Please join me.
the house of war wont rest until all the world is under islam even mohamad has the word mad init the asylums are full of people who talk to god so why belive a 6th century madman that changes his mind to suit himself plus he shags wee girls to make a religion out of this is total madness mohamad wanted to rule the world god didnt come into it it wasx all his will.and the virgins they will get in paradise will all be old catholic nuns lol thats the con dont listen to mohamad hes a con man
reksub10 3 years ago
Qu'ran 9:30 - Ezra the son of God as claimed by Jews?
That is the joke of the century. There is no evidence that any Judaic sect thought this. Any Rabbi will mock you.
Qu'ran 4:157 - Jesus not crucified. Well that is the joke of the Millenia. Secular historians, New Testament authors all know that he was. How can someone living in Arabia 600years later try to disprove history.
It is like if i wrote 600years later that 9/11 never happened and said that it is a word of God.
Blind faith!
Gfingers08 4 years ago
yeah, the people who wrote the bible, wrote it 300 yrs later. So people lived up to 300 yrs during Jesus's time?
jackelboy 4 years ago
dude what the hell u talking abhe belief out, some taable and shit, u need to make more research dude, the belief is that an angel revealed it to mohammed in stages lasting several years, included as being memorized by the mass before his death and it was written down on partmont paper by scribes in his life time this copy was copiled into one copy in the time of the first caliph (canonised) then revised in terms of adding certain written dotts, to help the reader, by the third caliph.
imadhurata 4 years ago
So why am i trying to say? Well, how can you translate something into another language that doesnt even support the letter. B/c arabic lacks a G, we replace it with the letter J, so Gary would be pronounced Jerry (but we arent stupid, we know its Gary and say it, bt spell it like Jerry).
jackelboy 4 years ago
Second, you want proof on why the Quran can never be 100% translated, well its all in the language. Arabic as a letter that is found in NO OTHER language on earth; the letter being DUAD or the heavy D. In the Quran, there are stray letters that we do not understand the meaning, and one of them is this letter.
jackelboy 4 years ago
If you don't understand it, then how can you be sure it's not satanic?
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
because not even Satan knows what God knows, right? Satn doesnt know what these stray letters mean, b/c if he did, wouldnt he have told someone, you know, disobeying and disproving God.
jackelboy 4 years ago
Ever heard of Greek Linear A and B? They are ancient languages. One of them is still a complete mystery, so I guess that makes ancient Greek the language of God?
Be serious!
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
hahahaha, i thought God created language, so all languages are the langauge of God. I am saying that the quran cant be 100% translated out of the way it was revealed.
jackelboy 4 years ago
What your religious teachers have been saying is that Quarish Arabic is THE language of God. They are also saying that part of the evidence of uniqueness is that it can't be 100% translated. I am saying that this would also apply to every other untranslated item of any other language. So, there is nothing unique about Quarish Arabic.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
here, lets look at history, each prophet had something to show they were the true prophets of God, Moses was able to perform real magic, Jesus was able to heal the sick, David had amazing strength, but why? Well, during those time periods, thats what civilizations mastered at the time. Moses time did magic, Jesus was the start of medicines, David needed strength to lead armies.
jackelboy 4 years ago
so whats my point here, at the time of Muhammad, poetry and language was the best skill. So to have mastery of Peotry, espicially being illerate, shows a certain power. Wouldnt you be shocked if a person you knew all your life performed open heart surgery without even knowing a thing about it? I sure would.
jackelboy 4 years ago
To equate open heart surgey with writing a few lines of poetry with the help of Abdullah Sarh is just a little dumb.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
the amazing thing is that the quran wasnt even written until after the prophets death. He memorized everything the quran (about 600+ pages) and that it has no contradiction. He is a challengefor you Loth, i want you to give a two hour speech, non written, and make sure you memorized everything word by word, letter by letter, just by speaking it once. The prophet did it for 23 yrs, i am giving you 2 hrs, i bet you cant do it.
jackelboy 4 years ago
The amazing thing is that muhammad never ordered a compliaiton of the Quran, he himself said that whatever is forgoten is by the will of 'allah'. So, by preserving his sayings in a book, he have corrupted his teaching by preserving sayings that should have been forgotten upon the deaths of the Muslims who had memorized those particular verses.
Also, the hadiths have many stories of forgotten verses readded with new variattions and muhammad himself forgetting them often.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
really, i never heard that if you forgot the quran, its okay. Plus, quran means recitation. So of course, you really cant hurt the quran, because it is recited, not really read. That why people who think shooting the quran, trashing the quran, and other things; in reality the words are the quran itself.
jackelboy 4 years ago
Hundreds of verses on Quran were lost during battles when in one battle alone ALL the reciters were killed,and those verses died with them...Also Aisha said a goat got into her tent (after MU's death) and ate the Surahs on Stoning and breastfeeding adult males...guess this so called "god"of the muslims couldnt protect his word! what a JOKE islam is!
peacechild61 3 years ago
You know nothing boy just throwing the answer like a small boy may ALLAH show you the right way.
llMuhammedZaill 2 years ago
Jacalboy needs to look up history of his own quran/hadith..there were SEVEN differing versions of Quran and when the SEVEN reciters asked MU which one was the correct one MU said ALL of them were correct..thats called schizophrenia,man
peacechild61 3 years ago 2
Lothair, Does Satan speak against himself?
"When thou dost read the Qur'an, seek Allah's protection from Satan the rejected one." [HQ 16"98]
"Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan doth sow dissensions among them: For Satan is to man an avowed enemy." [HQ 17:53] "If a suggestion from Satan assail thy (mind), seek refuge with Allah; for He heareth and knoweth (all things)" [HQ 7:200]
PeaceWaves 4 years ago
Satan does not speak agaisnt himself. He is far too arrogant. Still, there is convincing evidence that your prophet was indeed influenced by Satan in the 'revelations'.
Satan is the ruler of this world, though his power has been limited until the Lord's Day, when he is cast into the Fire. Satan has established is capital in Mecca.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
You speak as scribes did to Jesus. I'll let Jesus answer
'And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub (Satan)! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons". So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand' [Mark 3:22-24]
PeaceWaves 4 years ago
Jesus' ENEMIES claimed he was possessed by demons. It was muhammad HIMSELF who admitted to being demon possessed.
It is the devil [allah] who is the enemy, slaying the people of God, one after the other.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay! [HQ 2:87]
Please note: the word "We" used is the plural not of numbers but of honour as used in most eastern languages
PeaceWaves 4 years ago
Your 'god' didn't give anything to Moses, as Moses was in no way deceived by Satan. Nor, then, has your 'god' delivered anything to Jesus.
There is no pride in my objections to your 'prophet' only suspicion of its sources and purpose.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
i like how your are just stating something and not proving anything. Good job Peacewaves.
jackelboy 4 years ago
So did the scribes in their false pride of scriptures corrupted with human hands and hypocritical formalism accused Jesus of conspiring with Satan.
An irony it is that you make such ignorant claims that "Muhammed (peace & blessings of Allah on him) claimed to be possessed by satan". Unfortunately you follow the corrupt missionaries, biased and malicious orientalists who make up such stories. May god/ Allah/ dieu/ dios have mercy on you.
PeaceWaves 4 years ago
God has shown great mercy and blessings to me. I can only imagine His disappointment had He watched while I self-destructed a bomb and murdered innocent people in the same of Satan [allah].
Your 'prophet' did tell his wife Kadija that he beleived he was demon possessed, and it is a part of your history, not the imaginings of missionaries.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
First, Loth, this is my first time actually watching this video, and all i can say is that, your "theories" can easily be proven wrong. You state that the Quran is not perfect arabic, okay, the Quran was the first true arabic grammar book, in fact saying the quran is incorrect is like saying a ruler does not know the measurements of distance, and is incorrect, which of course is ridiculous.
jackelboy 4 years ago
And yet the grammar in the quran has many deficiencies that can only be reconciled by improving Arabic over the centuries.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
In arabic, there is a big difference when coming to dialogue. In fact, I sometimes cant understand my cousins from Egypt b/c the way they talk, and me being from Palestine, they have no idea what i am saying. My cousin in Palestine cant understand a few words cuz i speak village and he speaks city. The Quran was a means to provide the universal talk, but the quran didnt have words like Computers and Airports, so thats where Modern Standard Arabic comes in.
jackelboy 4 years ago
All you have done with this post is demonstrate that Arabic is not a universal language, and that the Arabic of the Quran is abscure and pointless.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
oh, like enlgish is? Thats why you guys dont even have half the words that arabic has. For example, Rouh and Neffs is debated all the time as either soul or spirit, and yet, when said in arabic, everyone understands the difference.
jackelboy 4 years ago
No one cliams that English is a perfect language which was uused to deliver God's message to mankind. Muslims are making that claim, and they are claiming that the SAME Arabic is still being spoken today. Wrong.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
wait wait wait, your telling me that Jesus revealed the bible in english? When did that happen? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that Saint Paul invented ice cream lol.
jackelboy 4 years ago
Saint Paul didn't invent ice cream?
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
i know that....i think....well, Jesus did not reveal the bible in english, correct?
jackelboy 4 years ago
That's correct. God did not inspire the Biblical writers to write in English.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
so what we're saying that God did not reveal the bible in english, but in hebrew and greek, correct? well, people did tests on when the OT was revealed and the language used today. Some words are new, which means man used replace other words for other words. Have you seen the documentary called "The Exodus" by the history channe;?
jackelboy 4 years ago
Yes, there are differences between Biblical Hebrew and Modern Hebrew. Still, no Jew or Christian claims that even Biblical Hebrew is 'perfect' nor that the Torah was preserved in heaven in perfect Hebrew. Muslims ARE making such a claim with the Quran, and it is obviously false.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, o man, oh, hahahahahaha, you have to be........hahahahaha, sorry sorry, did.........did you just admit that God has grammar problems? hahahahahahahaha, c'mon Loth, really?
jackelboy 4 years ago
God does not have grammar probelms...HAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH...PEOPLE DO...!
hahahhhahhahhahahhahahha...
LothairLorraine 3 years ago
so you admit that humans came up with the bible? wow, that blaspheme on soo many levels
jackelboy 3 years ago
What a stupid response.
LothairLorraine 3 years ago
This is so stupid clearly this man is very unintelligent but I'll answer his question for the sake of the muslims lol, who was the first muslims. Muslim means believer, therefore Abraham was the first believer amongst his people, so was Jesus, so was Adam.
What the hell is up with the background pics anyway is that supposed to mean something lol?
Omer698 4 years ago
Muslims are 'believers', but believers in what? No more than a pagan god from Arabia repackaged to appear like the God of Abraham. Much like Mormons.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Ok Lothair if our religion is pagan what does that make yours?. You supposedly drink the blood of Jesus, You changed the Sabbath to Sunday in celebration of the Roman Sun God, December 25th the Birthday of the Sun God, Decorations on trees, giving and recieveing gift all rituals by Pagans.
Omer698 4 years ago
I have no idea what the pagan foundations of your religion mean to mine. We drink the Cup of Christ, which is the Blood of the New Covenant. Our sabbath is Sunday in honor of Christ's resurrection. You worship on Friday in honor of Frigga, the Norse Goddess.
Trees represent the 'tree of Jesse', who was the father of King David. The date of December 25th is nowhere in the Bible, so we may choose any day of the year we prefer.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Norse Goddess? The norse devolpe in Europe, not in arabia, second, we call Friday Yom Al Jummah meaning, The Day of Gathering. Second, Adam was created on the sixth day; the sixth day is Friday. See the connection?
ninjaislam 4 years ago
omer
and you changed to friday and look at your fake ramadan what a joke really get a life
hannahr77 4 years ago
We changed to friday, lol we don't abide to the distorted filthy christian Judiac faith. Our Ramadan is commanded by your God, oh wait son of a God, o wait son of man well.. lol whatever you believe it's bullshit.
Omer698 4 years ago
omer
If you muslims are so intelligent then howcome your so backwards and dirt poor, and warring against each other?
hannahr77 4 years ago
We are warring against each other are you serious? who started WW1 who started WW2 who started the cold war who started the vietnam war who started the Gulf war, Who started the Iraq war. Why are we poor it's because you fund the dictators that run our countries. You people need to get a life but anyway since your God was breastfed and Jacob wrestled with him lol then go ahead.
Omer698 4 years ago 2
omer
the fist believer after muhammad was his wife
hannahr77 4 years ago
good job exposing them
nerdzrule 4 years ago
The Karon was passed on by word of mouth,for like a hundred years or something,before being written down.
worldlystone 4 years ago
And?! The Bible manuscripts were not. Instead they were always written down along with everything else. Common sense presents that the Bible is superior just by that.
MessianicJew2000 4 years ago
What's your point??
thugs63 4 years ago
To use textual-critical analysis with the Quran in the same way, and to the same degree, as Muslims examine the Bible. We'll see what we can discover, and hopefull come to a deeper and fuller understanding of Islamic history, literature and philosophy. Please join me.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago