Those banned monks are brats. They are betrayers. Young boys who don't know right from wrong. Women in Tibet are being sterilized as with a law to make sure Tibetan people are their culture woun't survive.
@MissZan2009 You condone sterilizing women to kill entire cultures? You are a disgusting person, besides this does not have anything to do with your blatant disgusting comment at all, know your facts and for fucks sake shut the hell up!
So painful to see how the monks are suffering as a result of Dalai Lama's policy. Dalai Lama is the spiritual and political leader of Tibet. Yet he doesnt change religious policy for the other schools except the Gelug school. The other leaders, HH Sakya Trizin, HH Karmapa, the late HH Penor Rinpoche would never accept it.
Four mil Shugden monks living in Zionist apartheid in Tibet can't be wrong. It was Nazi Dr. Ernst Schäfer who falsely believed that Tibet was the cradle of humanity & the refuge of an Aryan root race via the Nordic "gods", the Hyperboreans. The word Aryan is derived from Arya, which is Sanskrit for 'noble' and serves as an oxymoron for a people so pathetically ashamed of their African origins that they perpetually steal the lands, histories & heritages of other peoples to claim as their own.
Tibetan Monks and Buddhist Practitioner should listen Dalai Lama recommendations - as he advices for their / & our own good. Opposition People and especially Monks are truly ignorant and have no idea in what problems they are involving themselves. They should listen and learn why Dalai Lama doesn't not recommend this practice! There is a real reason for it, (but journalist here, have no clue neither they are interested in those details).
Tibetan people - Respect your own spiritual leader.
4 million Shugden monks can't be wrong. The Dalai Lama is aligned with ZioNazi landeskunde ideology; no wonder Zionist Hindus and Israelis support Tibet secession, when in historical fact, it appears that it was a province of China.
101st Gaden Tripa has just retired. HH Gaden Trisur Rinpoche (title given after retirement)and his ladrang has left Gaden Shartse Monastery and JOINED SHAR GADEN.
This is an interesting video. I think in every country, not just in the east, people should be allowed to practice what they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. I dont see any proof that Shugden worship hurts anyone?
Mixing politics and religion is always a potent and dangerous mix. I think the Dalai Lama is a Buddha so in order to be logical, he has to have a bigger picture in mind.
If you know Buddhisms well, if you know the Tibetan Buddhism well, you would choose Buddha himself over everything. I would choose my root Guru from whom I have recieved so many different teachings and initiations over any other protecter dieties even uncontroversial protector dieties such palden lhamo and gonpo. It is easy to abandon historically controversial dietie, Shugen and choose root Guru. You are fighting against your root guru and betraying your own country. What are you trying to do
Indian High court in New Delhi is summoning Dalai Lama to court due to his unconstitutional ban on the ancient practice of Dorje Shugden on his own people.
In India where there are so many religions and their subsects, it is unheard of that a secular/religious leader can issue such a ban.
It has shocked the Indian psyche.
Preliminary hearings have began.
Aljazeera news has a special report. It is posted on the youtube.
tibetans are avoiding those shugdhen folowers becoz they have crossed the limit, enough is enough...tibetans have tolerated these ignorant ppl for so long..we cant tolerate for these monsters anymore...goodjob tibetans
While anyone has any knowledge about tibet history should know how funny people are talking against China for tibet's freedom... it should be the other way around.
This is no different than the Pope excommunicating a catholic for not following the rules of the church. The Pope can't stop you from your beliefs, but he can stop you form being a part of the catholic church. It's just the same. Why should the Dalai Lama's monasteries support those who choose a path that is against what is thought to be best. Start another monastery and go your own way.
everyone have the freedom to burning, killing, stealing and murder innocent people?
i mean during the riot thousand of shop were burn down by those "peaceful" monk and their follower.. over thousand people injure, almost one hundred innocent people been torture, burning, beating to death by those "innocent tibeten"
or was these thing legal in europe? or you guys assume that as long as they are doing it for freedom and peace they commit all sort of sin without guilt?
I challenge you all to examine impartially the arguments on this topic and a little bit of study. Je vous defie de faire une etude sur le sujet de Shugden. I'm sure there's some intelligent folks reading these words. When do we call a spade a spade? The Dalai Lama simply warns of the dangers in worshipping a malevolent entity which has time and again proven its malevolence. Now Branches of Chinese Gov seem to b using this internal conflict to their advantage although they are Atheist system
bonjour les tibétains; il faut pas mentir et dire des choses pareils. le Dalai lama n'as jamais vous arrêté de suivre le Shugden; mais il vous a juste demandé de ne pas le suivre comme il est trés nuisible pour le cause tibétaine. Mais il faut surtout comprendre bien ce qu'il envoie comme méssage! le Dalai lama est un être qui croît vraiment en démocracie! alors faites vos choix mais ne menteZ pas et créez des problémeS pareilS ce qui rend toutes les monde mécontente!!
Tibetan Buddhism is more than half Bon anyhow. Shugden worship isn't pro-China, it's probably more authentically Tibetan than Buddhism. Tibet should be a free and sovereign state, but it must not be a theocracy, and certainly not a theocracy that denies religious freedom. The Dalai Lama is on the wrong path atm.
Well... I see some Dalai supports here claimed shugden is harmful, and they even used some buddhism jargons to explain it.
However, as I understand, any modern governments will not accpet such explaination. They will not allow Dalai to ban shugden practise. It has been proved by the fact that shugden is legally practised any western countries as well as in China.
The Dorje Shugden sect are just concerned at the growing corruption in the Tibetan community. Now when a Dharma protecter thinks there are thieves in the monastery, what should he do ?
french are whole bunch of hyprocrats! been yelling free tibet all the time, now b/c their economy fucked up and they need china to save their asses, so that why this clip was created...hmm..
Well... He may claim shugden is harmful, but he has no legal right to force others to stop practising shugden. Now he is mixing religion and politics.
For example, there are many Christian churches in western countries, and some of them dislike each other. However, they cannot use violence to ban each other since they has no such political powers.
Dalai's behaviour clearly shows the potential danger of mixing politics and religion, which is unacceptable in any modern counties.
You obviously have no clue what the point of this video is: the simple fact is that in no democratic country (that ISN'T a theocracy) that would ban the teaching of a specific sect of a religion, based on religious accusation.
And this video is posted by 'Vochinaorg.' This is one more evidence that China supports this cult to silence Dalai lama and destroy tibetan buddhism. Tibetans don't want anything to do with shugdens because shugdens are working with china destroy tibetan freedom cause. I don't blame these tibetans. Nobody wants to welcome freind's of onse enemy.
A relatively minor deity in this case Dorje Shugden had been elevated in error some 5oo years ago . And in this material world, it seems all too often is too tempting for many to worship deity which promises immediate worldly gains.
Make sure you do all your homework folks! I feel personally that the Dalai Lama has been too nice and has been too reluctant to come out with this issue until very recently although warnings about this deity have existed since 5th Dalai Lama.
You all sound like a bunch of non Tibetans talking through your gluteus and havnt seen what this ghost worship can do to a person first hand....Lots of confusion!! Maybe tempting due to the immediate material gains but it's all short lived as this ghost will exact its toll in a piece of your very soul!!! RUN YOU FOOLS!!!! Dalai Lama is confirming a 500 year old demon here and how timely.
France 24 TV chickened out of providing the original video and a factual translation and took this post off today. Will youtube be the refuge of CCP and Shugden hatred and lies?
And while I love the French,even married one,This was indeed a sad day for France24! They must be getting ready 4 sar-cozys return from olym-pix, since he has been totally bought off now.
I thought sar-cozys protest was real, it wasn't. Just a way to up the ante in the ultimate payoff he and buddy bush got
what "payment" sar-cozy and bud bush got we won't know for a long time. It took many years to determine nix-ons and kiss-in-gers bribes.
when they "opened up China for trade" and sold out the Tibetan Freedom fighters by pulling the CIA support (after, they got their trade agreement) Geo-politics of the rich and greedy. We are either going2wake up2this fact,and change things;or forever be their puppets.I certainly hope the French are more clever than americans at getting caught in this trap,eh?
This reporter is not translating The Dalai Lama's speeches well, he said its up to the individual to decide whether to worship or not. But he said as a teacher his advice is not to worship this evil spirit.
More info: 1)The Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of one of four Tibetan branches, other 3 branches don't care who he is. 2)The Tibetans in Tibet do worship Him, but most of them put Mao's portrait beside that of Buddha because it was Mao who saved them from slavery. (Tibet was unbelievebly under slavery before 1959. in 1959, PLA marched in Tibet, but they signed an agreement for autonomy and the central gov. didn't have the right to interfere until after the Dalai Lama fled Tibet.
Well I can't ignore what free minded chinese say about mao, read the books of intellectual chinese like "Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China" and many others, which clearly mentions that mao is a biggest motherfucker hypocrite in the world he starved over 30 million people and talked about Marxism while he stayed in palaces and became fatter and fatter and died of excess. And you are saying we should believe in such a blood sucker, you tube is not bejing!
If you know China only through this ONE novel, I doubt your means of getting information. I have a capy of Wild Swans, but never finished. The book has some real stories, I believe, but it has more lies and prejudice from her personal hatred, not to mention her poor English. We all say Mao is 70% a Gread leader, and 30% a poor leader. Please read more or come to China or ask around if you are interested, but don't trust an angry women named Jung Chang. BTW, the book was a Cold War production.
when u were saying 30% poor, it means he killed 30 million people, and this percentage was actually mentioned by Tang Shao ping to save communist face from the people, if u think that 30 million murderer means 30% poor haha well then even GOD can't save China...
I finally find out you are a Buddhist monk. I am also a Buddhist, I don't even kill insects, nor do I have meat like you Tibetan monks. And I think it's a shame for monks like you and the Dalai Lama to act just like normal people, or even worse. You guys just don't deserve being "Buddhists". Buddha never taught us to act like normal people; you have to be away from normal life to become a qualified Buddhist monk.
Political monks are not real monks even they have Buddhist robe and are fed by normal people. Shame on Buddhism! Shame on you. There is Tibetan human rights problem, but only for you who started a silly war to maintain your privilege in 1959, other Tibetans within Tibet are living a very good life without you, the slave owners. You silly Tibetan monks who mistreated Tibetans before 1959 deserve a homeless life now. That's Karma, you know that, if you ever know little Buddhist doctrine.
Now that I know you are a Tibetan monk who lost all your privilege and interest, I don't need to argue with you. My sympathy and suggestion for you: 1)Never try to go back to your Monk-slavery society, no way. 2)Give up separating Tibet from China and come back home, we will welcome you. No one from 14th century but the 14th Dalai Lama had a bad idea to seek for actual independence. Let's live on ourselves and become qualified Buddhists, America's money buys your chance of becoming a Buddha.
On 14 March 2006, several pro Dalai monks tried to destory a famous Dojre Shungden potrait in Lahsa. Many Dojre Shungden believers tried to seek revenge on Dalai's followers. It almost caused a serious religious conflict in Tibet. Luckily local Tibetan CCP government interrupted quickly.
CCP do not ban religion, but they do ban the mixture of politics and religion.
Shugdenists represents religion that puts Guru worship above Buddha's teaching and practiced a way of life that did not believe in or practice social conscience. shugdenists have killed, lied and made common cause with CCP program to recognize fake lamas and destroy genuine Buddhism in Tibet.
Is that Dalai lama's compassion for the human being ?
XpresloX 8 months ago
as long as u support the dalai lama, u are a real tibetan. if you do something else, u are a communist pig. that is the whole logic of tibetan cause.
eastern2western 11 months ago
watch?v=OdfXiBuTgwI
TheMightyGuri 1 year ago
Those banned monks are brats. They are betrayers. Young boys who don't know right from wrong. Women in Tibet are being sterilized as with a law to make sure Tibetan people are their culture woun't survive.
MissZan2009 1 year ago
@MissZan2009 And how is it related to Shugden affair? One thing is Chinese invasion, another very different is Dorje Shugden ban...
conejodeaguayviento 3 months ago
@MissZan2009 You condone sterilizing women to kill entire cultures? You are a disgusting person, besides this does not have anything to do with your blatant disgusting comment at all, know your facts and for fucks sake shut the hell up!
AlphaFirefly 2 months ago
So painful to see how the monks are suffering as a result of Dalai Lama's policy. Dalai Lama is the spiritual and political leader of Tibet. Yet he doesnt change religious policy for the other schools except the Gelug school. The other leaders, HH Sakya Trizin, HH Karmapa, the late HH Penor Rinpoche would never accept it.
MrDuldzin 2 years ago
@MrDuldzin
watch?v=OdfXiBuTgwI from 7 minutes on
TheMightyGuri 1 year ago
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Four mil Shugden monks living in Zionist apartheid in Tibet can't be wrong. It was Nazi Dr. Ernst Schäfer who falsely believed that Tibet was the cradle of humanity & the refuge of an Aryan root race via the Nordic "gods", the Hyperboreans. The word Aryan is derived from Arya, which is Sanskrit for 'noble' and serves as an oxymoron for a people so pathetically ashamed of their African origins that they perpetually steal the lands, histories & heritages of other peoples to claim as their own.
RadJustice 2 years ago
Tibetan Monks and Buddhist Practitioner should listen Dalai Lama recommendations - as he advices for their / & our own good. Opposition People and especially Monks are truly ignorant and have no idea in what problems they are involving themselves. They should listen and learn why Dalai Lama doesn't not recommend this practice! There is a real reason for it, (but journalist here, have no clue neither they are interested in those details).
Tibetan people - Respect your own spiritual leader.
humalien7 2 years ago
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4 million Shugden monks can't be wrong. The Dalai Lama is aligned with ZioNazi landeskunde ideology; no wonder Zionist Hindus and Israelis support Tibet secession, when in historical fact, it appears that it was a province of China.
RadJustice 2 years ago
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101st Gaden Tripa has just retired. HH Gaden Trisur Rinpoche (title given after retirement)and his ladrang has left Gaden Shartse Monastery and JOINED SHAR GADEN.
Read it in the forum at dorjeshugden(dot)com
TheDharmaKnight 2 years ago
this shows how brainwashed tibetans are, they r brainwashed by dalai lama and western propaganda.
obsidianstatue 2 years ago 2
This is an interesting video. I think in every country, not just in the east, people should be allowed to practice what they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone. I dont see any proof that Shugden worship hurts anyone?
Mixing politics and religion is always a potent and dangerous mix. I think the Dalai Lama is a Buddha so in order to be logical, he has to have a bigger picture in mind.
wisdombeing 2 years ago 4
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humalien7 2 years ago
Fuckkk u Shukden Monster and Evil ur only way is HELL. Thank U.
sunam11 2 years ago
Oh, spiritualism. How obnoxious faith is...
theannoyingbird 2 years ago
If you know Buddhisms well, if you know the Tibetan Buddhism well, you would choose Buddha himself over everything. I would choose my root Guru from whom I have recieved so many different teachings and initiations over any other protecter dieties even uncontroversial protector dieties such palden lhamo and gonpo. It is easy to abandon historically controversial dietie, Shugen and choose root Guru. You are fighting against your root guru and betraying your own country. What are you trying to do
stopKillingInTibet 2 years ago 3
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THE DALAI LAMA IS GOING TO COURT!!
Indian High court in New Delhi is summoning Dalai Lama to court due to his unconstitutional ban on the ancient practice of Dorje Shugden on his own people.
In India where there are so many religions and their subsects, it is unheard of that a secular/religious leader can issue such a ban.
It has shocked the Indian psyche.
Preliminary hearings have began.
Aljazeera news has a special report. It is posted on the youtube.
Get Updated!
truth1888 2 years ago
tibetans are avoiding those shugdhen folowers becoz they have crossed the limit, enough is enough...tibetans have tolerated these ignorant ppl for so long..we cant tolerate for these monsters anymore...goodjob tibetans
lhagyalo 3 years ago
whoever blames Dalai lama themself are biggest liars in the world
lhagyalo 3 years ago
While anyone has any knowledge about tibet history should know how funny people are talking against China for tibet's freedom... it should be the other way around.
lbhlbhlbh 2 years ago
these people are not funny but they support which is fact and truth...for the person like you truth will be just a joke n funny...free tibet.......
lhagyalo 2 years ago 2
dalai lama is one of the biggest liars in the history.
wj006335 3 years ago
This is no different than the Pope excommunicating a catholic for not following the rules of the church. The Pope can't stop you from your beliefs, but he can stop you form being a part of the catholic church. It's just the same. Why should the Dalai Lama's monasteries support those who choose a path that is against what is thought to be best. Start another monastery and go your own way.
lilacs72 3 years ago
Wow, the Dalai Lama and the Catholic Church in the same breath. Where did the holiness in Dalai Lama go?
by78 3 years ago
"Imagine a world with no religion".
-John Lennon.
ubcphysicsyangbo 3 years ago 4
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everyone have the freedom to burning, killing, stealing and murder innocent people?
i mean during the riot thousand of shop were burn down by those "peaceful" monk and their follower.. over thousand people injure, almost one hundred innocent people been torture, burning, beating to death by those "innocent tibeten"
or was these thing legal in europe? or you guys assume that as long as they are doing it for freedom and peace they commit all sort of sin without guilt?
emptyna 3 years ago
WOW!! All Theses God's Fighing Eachother! Oh! This Reminds Me Of The War In Gaza!
Oh Well,I'll Stick To GOD!
He's Not So Complicated!!! Dam!!!!!
Thevoiceisback2 3 years ago
I challenge you all to examine impartially the arguments on this topic and a little bit of study. Je vous defie de faire une etude sur le sujet de Shugden. I'm sure there's some intelligent folks reading these words. When do we call a spade a spade? The Dalai Lama simply warns of the dangers in worshipping a malevolent entity which has time and again proven its malevolence. Now Branches of Chinese Gov seem to b using this internal conflict to their advantage although they are Atheist system
lovsong111 3 years ago
bonjour les tibétains; il faut pas mentir et dire des choses pareils. le Dalai lama n'as jamais vous arrêté de suivre le Shugden; mais il vous a juste demandé de ne pas le suivre comme il est trés nuisible pour le cause tibétaine. Mais il faut surtout comprendre bien ce qu'il envoie comme méssage! le Dalai lama est un être qui croît vraiment en démocracie! alors faites vos choix mais ne menteZ pas et créez des problémeS pareilS ce qui rend toutes les monde mécontente!!
dolish34 3 years ago
Tibetan Buddhism is more than half Bon anyhow. Shugden worship isn't pro-China, it's probably more authentically Tibetan than Buddhism. Tibet should be a free and sovereign state, but it must not be a theocracy, and certainly not a theocracy that denies religious freedom. The Dalai Lama is on the wrong path atm.
formless777 3 years ago
Well... I see some Dalai supports here claimed shugden is harmful, and they even used some buddhism jargons to explain it.
However, as I understand, any modern governments will not accpet such explaination. They will not allow Dalai to ban shugden practise. It has been proved by the fact that shugden is legally practised any western countries as well as in China.
nnbb2008 3 years ago 3
The Dorje Shugden sect are just concerned at the growing corruption in the Tibetan community. Now when a Dharma protecter thinks there are thieves in the monastery, what should he do ?
formless777 3 years ago
french are whole bunch of hyprocrats! been yelling free tibet all the time, now b/c their economy fucked up and they need china to save their asses, so that why this clip was created...hmm..
ilomse 3 years ago
many tibetans including H.H.DALAI LAMA has experienced that shugden does more harm then benefit.
DALAI LAMA is like a parent of only child for the tibetans.
if your only child wants to commit suicide, what would you do as a good parent? definately you will say NO.
but some stupid people,like gangchen lama does not understand it.
gangchen and china orchestrate protest against DALAI LAMA.
china provided money and gangchen provided protesters in west recently.
huvanlee 3 years ago
Well... He may claim shugden is harmful, but he has no legal right to force others to stop practising shugden. Now he is mixing religion and politics.
For example, there are many Christian churches in western countries, and some of them dislike each other. However, they cannot use violence to ban each other since they has no such political powers.
Dalai's behaviour clearly shows the potential danger of mixing politics and religion, which is unacceptable in any modern counties.
nnbb2008 3 years ago 3
I suppose notions of religious freedom are not part of an Absolutist theocracy huh ?
formless777 3 years ago
You obviously have no clue what the point of this video is: the simple fact is that in no democratic country (that ISN'T a theocracy) that would ban the teaching of a specific sect of a religion, based on religious accusation.
ubcphysicsyangbo 3 years ago
And this video is posted by 'Vochinaorg.' This is one more evidence that China supports this cult to silence Dalai lama and destroy tibetan buddhism. Tibetans don't want anything to do with shugdens because shugdens are working with china destroy tibetan freedom cause. I don't blame these tibetans. Nobody wants to welcome freind's of onse enemy.
czrsilp 3 years ago
I don't know much of Dalai, but somehow i feel he looks evil
harrison28514 3 years ago 3
A relatively minor deity in this case Dorje Shugden had been elevated in error some 5oo years ago . And in this material world, it seems all too often is too tempting for many to worship deity which promises immediate worldly gains.
Make sure you do all your homework folks! I feel personally that the Dalai Lama has been too nice and has been too reluctant to come out with this issue until very recently although warnings about this deity have existed since 5th Dalai Lama.
lovsong111 3 years ago
That's only the "official" Tibetan side of the story; we all "know" how trustworthy "official" stories are, right?
ubcphysicsyangbo 3 years ago
You all sound like a bunch of non Tibetans talking through your gluteus and havnt seen what this ghost worship can do to a person first hand....Lots of confusion!! Maybe tempting due to the immediate material gains but it's all short lived as this ghost will exact its toll in a piece of your very soul!!! RUN YOU FOOLS!!!! Dalai Lama is confirming a 500 year old demon here and how timely.
lovsong111 3 years ago
Tell that to the Western Shugden Society
ubcphysicsyangbo 3 years ago
his holly shit dalai lama cock sucker not dead yet???
rptopmbv 3 years ago 2
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Dorje Shugden are traiters
DrPork4freedom 3 years ago
This report is about one thing. Illegal religious persecution and discrimination started by the Dalai Lama. It shows evidence of these things.
Shugden Buddhists only wish to practise their faith free from fear of persecution. That is all.
gyalchen7 3 years ago 2
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So you mean who ever critics China is western propaganda?
y don't u just say, communist chinese government can't swallow truth!
Freealll 3 years ago
LOL, at 4:17, dalai says something like:
"people have killed, lied, fought each other, and started fires in the name of this deity Dorje Shugden)"
funny, those Tibetans who fought and killed, lied, and started fires during the Tibet riots were NOT Dorje Shugden followers.
DuhLie 3 years ago 9
@DuhLie uuuhm, i think the only ones killing there where the chinese
Knarsten 11 months ago
@Knarsten you think, but you dont know.
DuhLie 10 months ago
So you mean who ever critics China is western propaganda?
y don't u just say, communist chinese government can't swallow truth!
Freealll 3 years ago
France 24 TV chickened out of providing the original video and a factual translation and took this post off today. Will youtube be the refuge of CCP and Shugden hatred and lies?
Akhutonpa 3 years ago
To Akhutonpa, Triple merde indeed!
And while I love the French,even married one,This was indeed a sad day for France24! They must be getting ready 4 sar-cozys return from olym-pix, since he has been totally bought off now.
I thought sar-cozys protest was real, it wasn't. Just a way to up the ante in the ultimate payoff he and buddy bush got
patrickmahoney 3 years ago
what "payment" sar-cozy and bud bush got we won't know for a long time. It took many years to determine nix-ons and kiss-in-gers bribes.
when they "opened up China for trade" and sold out the Tibetan Freedom fighters by pulling the CIA support (after, they got their trade agreement) Geo-politics of the rich and greedy. We are either going2wake up2this fact,and change things;or forever be their puppets.I certainly hope the French are more clever than americans at getting caught in this trap,eh?
patrickmahoney 3 years ago
This reporter is not translating The Dalai Lama's speeches well, he said its up to the individual to decide whether to worship or not. But he said as a teacher his advice is not to worship this evil spirit.
Freealll 3 years ago
More info: 1)The Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of one of four Tibetan branches, other 3 branches don't care who he is. 2)The Tibetans in Tibet do worship Him, but most of them put Mao's portrait beside that of Buddha because it was Mao who saved them from slavery. (Tibet was unbelievebly under slavery before 1959. in 1959, PLA marched in Tibet, but they signed an agreement for autonomy and the central gov. didn't have the right to interfere until after the Dalai Lama fled Tibet.
wolfpapas 3 years ago
haha who will believe you, don't you know better Mao revolution killed more than 30 million chinese.
HA mao is a monster! who will worship except fools!
Freealll 3 years ago
I bet when you know more about him, you WILL change your idea. Don't believe what BBC or CNN said during and after the Cold War.
wolfpapas 3 years ago
Well I can't ignore what free minded chinese say about mao, read the books of intellectual chinese like "Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China" and many others, which clearly mentions that mao is a biggest motherfucker hypocrite in the world he starved over 30 million people and talked about Marxism while he stayed in palaces and became fatter and fatter and died of excess. And you are saying we should believe in such a blood sucker, you tube is not bejing!
Freealll 3 years ago
If you know China only through this ONE novel, I doubt your means of getting information. I have a capy of Wild Swans, but never finished. The book has some real stories, I believe, but it has more lies and prejudice from her personal hatred, not to mention her poor English. We all say Mao is 70% a Gread leader, and 30% a poor leader. Please read more or come to China or ask around if you are interested, but don't trust an angry women named Jung Chang. BTW, the book was a Cold War production.
wolfpapas 3 years ago
when u were saying 30% poor, it means he killed 30 million people, and this percentage was actually mentioned by Tang Shao ping to save communist face from the people, if u think that 30 million murderer means 30% poor haha well then even GOD can't save China...
Freealll 3 years ago
I strongly suggest you read more than argue strongly. Ignorance and stubbornness are not good for real facts.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 2
and what should i read? Communist propaganda Or CCTV proganda or your misinformed nationalistic ideals?
Freealll 3 years ago
No, you may go on with Western propaganda.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 3
So you mean who ever critics China is western propaganda?
y don't u just say, communist chinese government can't swallow truth!
Freealll 3 years ago
No, sometimes there are brainless idiots.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 2
I finally find out you are a Buddhist monk. I am also a Buddhist, I don't even kill insects, nor do I have meat like you Tibetan monks. And I think it's a shame for monks like you and the Dalai Lama to act just like normal people, or even worse. You guys just don't deserve being "Buddhists". Buddha never taught us to act like normal people; you have to be away from normal life to become a qualified Buddhist monk.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 9
Political monks are not real monks even they have Buddhist robe and are fed by normal people. Shame on Buddhism! Shame on you. There is Tibetan human rights problem, but only for you who started a silly war to maintain your privilege in 1959, other Tibetans within Tibet are living a very good life without you, the slave owners. You silly Tibetan monks who mistreated Tibetans before 1959 deserve a homeless life now. That's Karma, you know that, if you ever know little Buddhist doctrine.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 5
Now that I know you are a Tibetan monk who lost all your privilege and interest, I don't need to argue with you. My sympathy and suggestion for you: 1)Never try to go back to your Monk-slavery society, no way. 2)Give up separating Tibet from China and come back home, we will welcome you. No one from 14th century but the 14th Dalai Lama had a bad idea to seek for actual independence. Let's live on ourselves and become qualified Buddhists, America's money buys your chance of becoming a Buddha.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 5
On 14 March 2006, several pro Dalai monks tried to destory a famous Dojre Shungden potrait in Lahsa. Many Dojre Shungden believers tried to seek revenge on Dalai's followers. It almost caused a serious religious conflict in Tibet. Luckily local Tibetan CCP government interrupted quickly.
CCP do not ban religion, but they do ban the mixture of politics and religion.
nnbb2008 3 years ago
Shugdenists represents religion that puts Guru worship above Buddha's teaching and practiced a way of life that did not believe in or practice social conscience. shugdenists have killed, lied and made common cause with CCP program to recognize fake lamas and destroy genuine Buddhism in Tibet.
Akhutonpa 3 years ago
It is your religion freedom to not practice Dojre Shugden, but you should not harm the religion freedom of Dojre Shugden believers to practice it.
nnbb2008 3 years ago
Well said nnbb2008.
I agree with your remarks to the prejudiced Akhutonpa. Thank you.
lionheart3724 3 years ago
Your remarks are typically contradictory.
Buddha Shakyamuni himself taught that the root of the Mahayana Buddhist spiritual path is sincere reliance upon the spiritual guide.
Your second sentence, Akhutonpa, is simply more unfounded lies. When will you stop this I wonder?
If you have evidence then please post it. Still you have not been able to do this. So maybe you can be quiet eh?
lionheart3724 3 years ago