Thumbs of if you have been banned from HowTheWorldWorks for poiting out some flaw. People who feel the need to block opponents to make their videos apear so perfect are insane. Its the same kind of fascist idiots who (if they got to power) would attempt the same thing in a society. Its the idea that society would be so perfect, but everyone just needs to agree with me first. No different from the ideas of Pol Pot or Mao Zedong.
Is there a specific reason why you worry about his opinion that much? Is that guy such a big influence on the world or your ego so big that you take all of this so personally? You are indeed wasting your time here. What that guy does is almost similar to trolling and you don't argue with trolls. You either kickban/ignore them or be entertained by their stupidity. If you insult him back or take it personally, the troll wins.
HTWW blocked me from commenting on his videos for merely criticizing one of his videos. I didn't say anything offensive but merely explained why I thought he was wrong. I thought he was all about American values such as freedom of speech? I guess not. Not when it is to his disadvantage.
@jonahfox You have free speech in the sense that the things you say are exempt from government control. Your right to free speech does not extend to someone's private youtube channel.
@GarrettPetersen Yeah I know. But I would still expect him to allow criticism to run on his channel. Seems hypocritical and pathetic. You would expect him to want to set an example given what he claims to stand for. But he is ridiculous.
Yeah, lies work; people never check facts, so you can say anything and people will except it.
George Bush was born on a weekend trip to Mexico. I want to see absolute proof that he was born in the USA. If fact, I want him to provide more conclusive proof than Obama has. Given Georgie was born in Mexico, that makes all his laws and wars illegal.
what?? you sent 19 messages to reply to his 25 messages? you are such a stalker...lol. I guess honesty is not one of the traits of the doche called lee doren.
This whole world is stupid, that includes you and people who argue about NOTHING! All this is is bitching and more bitching. You argue how you are right and he is wrong, and he argues how he is right and you are wrong. This is bull shit
No kidding that Lee can't read and analyze. The first of his videos I clicked on had something about the UK National Health Service refusing to treat a premature baby--bad socialized medicine. I looked at his own news source, and I found the same would be true in some--if not all--U.S. states. Lost all respect for him right there. I didn't know clown college had a legal department until Lee showed up.
@hollow088 Got nailed for downloading southpark and team america so i guess that`s different. Fox may be worst on trying to take down fair use stuff but Viacom is defiantly bad for false claims as well.
lee doren is hilarious, like Crusty the Clown, only not quite as bright, and far less honest. We find Kook doren to be one of the dumbest creatures around, as well as a liar who fabricates and creates material out of thin air, just like fox comedy news does. Great video!
howtheworldworks-Lee Doren kind of sounds like a doucebag when he's talking. His tone mainly sounds of someone who's complaining, while at the same time presenting his case. His overall view is part of what's wrong with America.
@Ilikemustard Hey, genius, you need to read a history book. It's clear in history that supply-side economics is what brings economic prosperity to all and I'm sick of this left-wing dogma.
Or something like that. I think I did a pretty good job at impersonating HTWW in that comment, considering that's how he replies to almost everyone, or by calling everyone on the left marxists. Still wanna say that the kid you're replying to shouldn't rely on ad hominem, which HTWW does regularly?
@Ilikemustard I know what ad hominem is, and if you can't acknowledge HTWW's ad hominem attacks, that's not my problem. FYI: I wasn't the person who posted the original comment either. I was defending him, because HTWW constantly calls people who disagree Marxists and blames communism for the death of 100 mil people, while it was not the belief, it was those in charge of it. He doesn't make a distinction. Anyone who supports a policy different than his is an ignorant marxist, in the words of him
@Someideasandstuff How does he sound like a douchebag? He presents his case, uses only the facts and only very rarely does he use idioms or snark. And why in the name of Christ shouldn't he complain? Is that not how a Democracy is meant to function? Or are you so quick to betray your own ideals when the shoe is on the other foot?
I hate complaining! Complaining is bad! It's never productive to complain, do people really think people listen to them when they complain? All people do is whine and they should stop! Complaining shouldn't be protected under the first amendment! Just be complacent and accepting and believe everything the machine tells you!
@Zucca101 "He presents his case, uses only the facts" hahahahahaha XD I'm impressed! It takes a massive amount of intellectual dishonestly to make that statement. More than I thought was humanly possible. You remind me of that guy on the popular youtube video when he says "It's till real to me damn it!" Continue living your delusion go sir....
howtheworldworks = make a conclusion, then try to find arguments to back it up. If you are totally wrong, just confuse your interlocutor so much so that he will just think "oh he confused me so much, he must be right". He will always be right, no matter how obviously wrong he is. sad :/
@TheClaudia666 mmmmm, I wonder how many more times can you say man. What are you a fucking hippy? And for god sakes uses periods. U sound obnoxious and innoying.
Let's just make this simple and say you're both selective listeners and defamers, but you both try to present the truth as best as you can, and it's a waste of time listening to either of your rebuttal videos. And my god, man, your voice is uninteresting. Just when I thought no one's voice could be more uninteresting and monotone than mine, I find you. There's my two cents. I'd like to watch what you'd do with it, but I just don't care anymore.
the closest thing to an innocent explanation that i can come up with is the dunning-kruger effect. wikipedia: "a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority" i came across this explanation when trying to understand the actions of my co-worker, who i believe is a clear case.
There is no innocent explanation. Lee Doran has no concern with integrity, truth, justice, unless it can be used by him to make money. If he doesn't need to do it, he won't.
He's a lawyer? He clearly has trouble understanding complex arguments and obviously does a shabby job of researching his video's topics, so how on Earth does he function as a lawyer?
I'm of course referring to Lee (HowTheWorldWorks) here, not LiberalViewer. I hate having to make disclaimers like this but you can guarantee that if I don't explicitly state it, some nimrod will make that assumption.
Meh... I also really dislike when people who are supposed to be on my side tell me that it's a waste of time addressing certain issues. Sometimes a problem (even a stupid one) NEEDS to be put to rest. Otherwise this would stick in your mind, nagging you forever. So you did a good thing for yourself. I'm not familiar with this whole issue (and it is the better part of a year old now), but I would surmise this helped you greatly in the end. Big fan.
You did the right thing. Comprehensive point by point demolitions of the sort of propaganda that Doren puts out are important.
The sole purpose of CEI is to launder anti-labor, anti-consumer and anti-environmental corporate talking points. To shill for Big Pharma, Big Oil, Tobacco Industy and the rest of the Rogues Gallery that are behind a range of propaganda machines ("Think Tanks"), fake front goups to run political ads, and fake "grassroots" (astroturfed) citizens groups.
I think you've done more then enough. unfortunately this moron will never stop making these videos... Have you seen how many videos he has made attacking The Young Turks? It's almost unbelievable. This guy has way to much time on his hands.
His arguments can be seen through by anyone with a mind of their own. Anyone who thinks that someone would need to distort facts to show FOX news' bias is completely fucking retarded.
How the world works is a nasty, capricious, factually incorrect liar who bears quite a fair amount of disdain for anyone that disagrees with him. I'd say that Lee Doran does not need beating in an argument. He beats himself.
I think the little weasel bastard is a lying asshole. The only reason he has a You-tube channel is because he would like a nice cushy job on Fox news or perhaps on Rush Limbaugh's emergency dingle berry maintenance crew; in other words he is a waste of time
@phillip549 yes lets take the sins of conservatives and just slap them on liberals, who cares if theres no truth to it. Does that make you feel better?
liberalviewer: first just drop it. i dont think its worth the time anymore. second: im sorry you keep running into idiot conservatives. third: look for honest smart conservatives and keep an open dialoge with them. trust me they exist. its great when they stump you and you can stump them back. and fourth: keep the videos coming. i may not always agree but they are great talking points for the rest of my day
watch both of you and i don't really agree with either completely, but c'mon, it's a lot of the pot calling the kettle black. you both need to stop the slander and focus on what you think, not what the other person thinks
No you haven't wasted enough time because you haven't proved Lee wrong. but nice try though. You sidestepped every possible rebuttal and you refused to make a video response which is what youtube wants. So try again or quit.
yes u have wasted ur time, this should be a lesson for you that any right winger is simply a waste of time. because they always look at one sided coins.
In contrast, libertarian thinker Karl Hess considered both Hitler and Stalin right-wingers. I think Hess would classify Mao as right-wing also. No matter how Stalin and Mao paint themselves Red, they are in fact State-Capitalists.
Although the Nazis banned vivisection and were environmentalists, right-libertarian Murray Rothbard had argued that rightists can be greenies, namely because they have the incentive conserve their private property for future use.
Lee Doran's a lawyer? He looks like he's barely even 20. Well if he is a lawyer him and LiberalViewer need to get themselves in a good ol' fashioned Lawyer Fight.
@lovejen01 if you can point out any lies and/or censorship then they do. I see trolling constantly on msnbc videos from teabaggers calling them liars, idiots and how blacks want free handouts. If you can actually come up with any facts I'd be happy to hear them. I'm sure there are, both parties are corrupt, but Dems aren't in bed with the Christian Dominionists, which is the lesser of two evils.
@CreationistVotebot99 well if think Dems are the lesser evil that is your opinion. Far as facts on tea baggers i have seen numerous videos blacks and other ethnic groups at these rally's and have seen Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow actually did accuse tea baggers as racist and idiots, when all ethnic groups are protesting. Also actually go to a rally for yourself who will see.
@lovejen01 The Tea Party may not be inherently racist, but the spokesman for the Tea Party Express certainly did a terrible job of distancing them from racism.
@tifforo1 Of course they distance from racist because that not what the tea bag party is about. You have to remeber and understand this the Dems wants all ethnic groups divided, that way they can have control ofr the people. There is more scary to politicians when people see the truth and unite.
@lovejen01 "There is more scary to politicians when people see the truth and unite." Is this why the majority of Conservatives/Republicans are White/Christian?
@lovejen01 i don't think you understood my comment watch trhe video again, the video claims tea bag party are racist/ ignorant but which is far from the truth. Also the right has been bias and the left is not bias?
@lovejen01 keep deluding yourself with fact-free bullshit. Remember, plate tectonics don't cause earthquakes, homosexuals do. And if you don't believe that, you're not a true conservative.
@CreationistVotebot99 No but the Dems are in bed with radical Islam and dictators along with communist countries that don't like the U.S.. Like whn NObama was with buddy Hugo Chavez . Chavez was just bashing America and NObama just sat thier bobbing his head up down and saying yes it is America fault.
I don't understand why people are debating over pointless things. The real enemies right now is Wallstreet. We need to end all of the unnessary bailouts and bring every single ceo who linged their pockets with tax payer money. We need to audit the Federal Reserve get back all of the money they took. Convervative and liberal doesn't mean a thing anymore what matters now is that restore economic competition, get people back to work, and end the corruption in the fancial system!
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HAHAHA! We are going to butt rape all of you left wing liberal socialists in november, and there is not damn thing you trolls can do about it. Hows Ted Kennedy doing these days? HAHAHA! FOX NEWS FOREVER! PALIN/BROWN 2012!
Palin/brown? Seriously? Man that would be SWEET, bigger Democratic landslide than Obama's first win if they put a loser pair like that on the ticket. I have to assume this is parody, a real republican would have sought out stronger candidates.
I'm doin your mom, so be more respectful son. By the way, dont be hate'in on homos or they wont pay you for the hand jobs you give them in the park, then you cant sit in the basement playin warcraft and eatin cheessy poofs.
Hey LiberalViewer, just one point on the mails you allegedly repeatedly sent to HTWW, YouTube's mail system isn't flawless by any means. Is it possible that the system glitched and repeatedly sent?
I don't think this lets Lee off the hook at all. He certainly seems to have made no effort to assertain or demonstrate that this is not in fact the case.
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LOL this is sad. You are clearly a flaming democrat but can't even make your own arguements. All you can do is try to make the opposing side look bad to make your side look better. Please learn to make an arguement or report something and not try to show how the other side lies when it is all a matter of opinion. Maybe one day you will be able to make half the arguement HowTheWorldWorks makes instead of going around trying to make people look dumb out of your own securities.
Lee is insulting and arrogant, and the fact that he has so many subscribers here while other decent and talent youtubers continue to be highly under subscribed, is disgraceful.
Why waste time on someone who obviously is not going to admit when he's blatantly wrong, and instead resorts to baseless attacks on you, who just politely pointed out mistakes in his analysis. I would even say you're written rebuttals gave him time and effort, which he didn't deserve and could have been put to better use.
That's obviously bullshit. Fox just doesn't want to have their news slammed, and couldn't think of a better reason to chastise their most successful show.
find da duchey on the right hand side da da da find da duchey on the right hand side.hes a liar and so he will call you a liar.this is a liars first line of defense I believe that my experience(with liars)This experience fueled my hatred (for liars)
as an underdog like forever all i can say is having an modern ammount of fact and intelligence is stupid peoples kryponite and myself continue to be made fun of, dissed,told some pretty one sided opinions because I ACTUALLY THINK FOR MYSELF!...atleast these liberals i like, too bad the ones in canada are more or less the republicans and don't rule fairly and only care about information that profits them so plz continue to proving these knuckleknobs wrong ty.
You didn't need to LV. Anyone with half an intellect can see that Doren is a douche (but I'm glad you pointed out his lies for the YouTube community to see). AND THAT'S THE GAME FOLKS!!!
Is Allen LV? And..... why do you have to act like that? Doren IS a douche.... because I don't explain the technical, legalistic reasoning as to the "why," you feel prompted to lash out at me? Thanks bro.... maybe we'll find more ways to waste even more time with one another.....
sandite26 so there is a "technical, legalistic reasoning as to the "why" " Lee Doren is a "douche"? ........That would be interesting to hear as I can't imagine such a thing.
And LiberalViewers name is Allen Asch, an ACLU board director in the Sacramento area. Thanks for replying.
I'm just saying since the internet has spawned these multitudes of armchair attorneys, you can't just say that something's a duck..... even if it walks and talks like one, without someone like you acting as the YouTube comment police.... I like "Allen." I think Doren is a douchebag propagandist (and more recently publicized opportunist). But I've learned that my opinion means nothing, especially considering the ratings that Fox news gets in comparison to every other cable news outlet.
Well if you can identify a 'douche' by the way it walks and talks I'll give you props. But a duck I can show you by the way it walks and talks and I am not an attorney, armchair or otherwise. Thanks again
I'm a subscriber to both you and how the world works (just to see things from both sides of the fence) and though I do find when he and you butting heads entertaining, I think you should both agree to disagree and move on
And you point out many good examples of the complexity of left/right dynamic that people can really be all over the place unless left/right is narrowly defined. "Political Compass" puts Nazis center right because their policies werent strictly right. Which is why I see the historical categories of left/right almost useless.
Out of interest, how do you define left/right? (in other words what system of definition do you use). w/o a clear definition Ron Paul and Mao could be the same.
You are right about more dimensions. Although when you add more dimensions the position is on a 'compass' and no longer just left/right, adding more complexity than the general use of the terms. For example, Nazis believed in eugenics; historically a leftist social ideal. Therefore in some ways they were socially right in others socially left.
Government control seems to capture elements of economic and social left/right but the dimensions are so convoluted in history it is hard to separate.
It depends on how you are describing left and right... historically left and right are different than philosophical left and right.
Philosophical left/right are described by government control. farthest left is most government control ... farthest right is no government. Under this definition... all totalitarian and authoritarian movements are left. historical categories of left/right dont mean much because libertarians would be considered left, but everyone calls them right wing.
Incorrect. All of those philosophies came from the left. Mussolini was a communist in his beginnings and carried many ideas over to his brand of fascism. Hitler and anticommunist took left wing racial philosophies and his party was the National Socialist party. Left wing not right wing.
Fox suing Fox everyone is out to try and make a quick buck. What a Bunch of retards.
eldest808 1 month ago
Lee Doren comes across as a simpleton a best. At worst, he's an outright lier.
TheInternetWanderer 2 months ago
It's not FOX News' fault they have a retarded audience.
WILKINSTV 2 months ago
Thumbs of if you have been banned from HowTheWorldWorks for poiting out some flaw. People who feel the need to block opponents to make their videos apear so perfect are insane. Its the same kind of fascist idiots who (if they got to power) would attempt the same thing in a society. Its the idea that society would be so perfect, but everyone just needs to agree with me first. No different from the ideas of Pol Pot or Mao Zedong.
gulbirk 3 months ago 2
Is there a specific reason why you worry about his opinion that much? Is that guy such a big influence on the world or your ego so big that you take all of this so personally? You are indeed wasting your time here. What that guy does is almost similar to trolling and you don't argue with trolls. You either kickban/ignore them or be entertained by their stupidity. If you insult him back or take it personally, the troll wins.
Keep up the great work,
lg
longapc 4 months ago
Lee Doren or HTWW or NoobIdiot blocked me on my other channel too for proving his lies wrong.
cisseshairdresser 6 months ago
HTWW raped my mother
StatelessEuphoria 7 months ago
HTWW blocked me from commenting on his videos for merely criticizing one of his videos. I didn't say anything offensive but merely explained why I thought he was wrong. I thought he was all about American values such as freedom of speech? I guess not. Not when it is to his disadvantage.
jonahfox 7 months ago 5
@jonahfox Lee Doren doesn't block. Are you sure you weren't just voted down for saying truly preposterous things?
Zucca101 7 months ago
@Zucca101 He did block me, I cant make any more comments on his videos. I sent him an email asking him to explain why and he ignored me.
jonahfox 7 months ago
@jonahfox You have free speech in the sense that the things you say are exempt from government control. Your right to free speech does not extend to someone's private youtube channel.
GarrettPetersen 7 months ago
@GarrettPetersen Yeah I know. But I would still expect him to allow criticism to run on his channel. Seems hypocritical and pathetic. You would expect him to want to set an example given what he claims to stand for. But he is ridiculous.
jonahfox 7 months ago
Yeah, lies work; people never check facts, so you can say anything and people will except it.
George Bush was born on a weekend trip to Mexico. I want to see absolute proof that he was born in the USA. If fact, I want him to provide more conclusive proof than Obama has. Given Georgie was born in Mexico, that makes all his laws and wars illegal.
It's on the Internet, it must be true!
blueboyblue 8 months ago
NO! He is a slime ball that is all
TheMalcore 8 months ago
I think in the part 1 howtheworld video you both are wrong.
He is wrong in all assumptions, while you are wrong in that you assume Michelle's thoughts on Obama's marxist ties are too fringed for Glenn Beck.
Seriously?
The commie-accusation of Obama would be too fringed for Glenn? XD
elegemvan1 8 months ago
what?? you sent 19 messages to reply to his 25 messages? you are such a stalker...lol. I guess honesty is not one of the traits of the doche called lee doren.
lasku0007 8 months ago
hes a douche
0hfuzzyu 9 months ago
This whole world is stupid, that includes you and people who argue about NOTHING! All this is is bitching and more bitching. You argue how you are right and he is wrong, and he argues how he is right and you are wrong. This is bull shit
440charger2 9 months ago
You do know Lee Doren has about 30 IQ Points on you, Liberalviewer... Not to mention common sense...
And why would he apologize for something that is true...
aaasssfffdddiii 9 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii IQ isn't defined by a test.
darkmankill1 9 months ago
@darkmankill1 First, I never said IQ was defined by a test....
Regardless, it is. It's called an IQ test....
I think you just a set a new record for dumbest comment I have ever read....
aaasssfffdddiii 9 months ago
@aaasssfffdddiii i missed the part simple, and since youtubes gay like that, i said, fuck it and moved on.
darkmankill1 9 months ago
@darkmankill1 Okay... I really don't know what this means...
aaasssfffdddiii 9 months ago
modern copyright.
a cudgel for corporate media producers to use in suppressing any and all competition they possibly can.
SCARREDMIND 10 months ago
@stylite13 can i reply to anyone? without them having commented here?
cake1834 11 months ago
fox was worried that a cartoon by fox network might mess up fox news that is also being showed on fox.
(fox= 4)
cake1834 11 months ago
No kidding that Lee can't read and analyze. The first of his videos I clicked on had something about the UK National Health Service refusing to treat a premature baby--bad socialized medicine. I looked at his own news source, and I found the same would be true in some--if not all--U.S. states. Lost all respect for him right there. I didn't know clown college had a legal department until Lee showed up.
newdarnaccount 11 months ago
fox is one of the biggest assholes with the copyright bullshit
hollow088 11 months ago 22
@hollow088 Viacom is worse i think!
Lesouder2222Music 9 months ago
@Lesouder2222Music thats youre opinion but i respect it
hollow088 9 months ago
@hollow088 Got nailed for downloading southpark and team america so i guess that`s different. Fox may be worst on trying to take down fair use stuff but Viacom is defiantly bad for false claims as well.
Lesouder2222Music 9 months ago
@hollow088
fox is one of the biggest assholes. Period. Rupert Murdoch is an asshole.
SyndicalistTimes 4 months ago
lee doren is hilarious, like Crusty the Clown, only not quite as bright, and far less honest. We find Kook doren to be one of the dumbest creatures around, as well as a liar who fabricates and creates material out of thin air, just like fox comedy news does. Great video!
mccainisthroughX 1 year ago
@mccainisthroughX Hey, Krusty the Klown has been on imaginary TV for decades--don't slander him by comparing him to that dolt.
zetanato 1 year ago
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howtheworldworks-Lee Doren kind of sounds like a doucebag when he's talking. His tone mainly sounds of someone who's complaining, while at the same time presenting his case. His overall view is part of what's wrong with America.
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Someideasandstuff 1 year ago 4
@Someideasandstuff
You know who sounds like a douchebag? People that make anonymous personal attacks on the internet.
Why don't you try debunking his ideas, rather than being and idiot and relying on ad hominem?
Ilikemustard 9 months ago
@Ilikemustard Hey, genius, you need to read a history book. It's clear in history that supply-side economics is what brings economic prosperity to all and I'm sick of this left-wing dogma.
Or something like that. I think I did a pretty good job at impersonating HTWW in that comment, considering that's how he replies to almost everyone, or by calling everyone on the left marxists. Still wanna say that the kid you're replying to shouldn't rely on ad hominem, which HTWW does regularly?
NerdboiisAfroMan 9 months ago 2
@NerdboiisAfroMan
So you don't even know what ad hominem is. Fucking hilarious.
I'll give you a hint: Your impersonation of Lee was not ad hominem. Your original comment WAS.
Ilikemustard 9 months ago
@Ilikemustard I know what ad hominem is, and if you can't acknowledge HTWW's ad hominem attacks, that's not my problem. FYI: I wasn't the person who posted the original comment either. I was defending him, because HTWW constantly calls people who disagree Marxists and blames communism for the death of 100 mil people, while it was not the belief, it was those in charge of it. He doesn't make a distinction. Anyone who supports a policy different than his is an ignorant marxist, in the words of him
NerdboiisAfroMan 9 months ago
@Someideasandstuff
I beat his ass at a party for getting tough with me. (Lee or someone that looks like him)
-LiberalViewer supporter
xxFishbones 8 months ago
@Someideasandstuff How does he sound like a douchebag? He presents his case, uses only the facts and only very rarely does he use idioms or snark. And why in the name of Christ shouldn't he complain? Is that not how a Democracy is meant to function? Or are you so quick to betray your own ideals when the shoe is on the other foot?
Zucca101 7 months ago 14
@Zucca101
I hate complaining! Complaining is bad! It's never productive to complain, do people really think people listen to them when they complain? All people do is whine and they should stop! Complaining shouldn't be protected under the first amendment! Just be complacent and accepting and believe everything the machine tells you!
gamerunknown 4 months ago
@Zucca101 "He presents his case, uses only the facts" hahahahahaha XD I'm impressed! It takes a massive amount of intellectual dishonestly to make that statement. More than I thought was humanly possible. You remind me of that guy on the popular youtube video when he says "It's till real to me damn it!" Continue living your delusion go sir....
Groudie101 2 months ago
howtheworldworks = make a conclusion, then try to find arguments to back it up. If you are totally wrong, just confuse your interlocutor so much so that he will just think "oh he confused me so much, he must be right". He will always be right, no matter how obviously wrong he is. sad :/
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
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TheClaudia666 1 year ago
@TheClaudia666 mmmmm, I wonder how many more times can you say man. What are you a fucking hippy? And for god sakes uses periods. U sound obnoxious and innoying.
Iceking137 1 year ago
Let's just make this simple and say you're both selective listeners and defamers, but you both try to present the truth as best as you can, and it's a waste of time listening to either of your rebuttal videos. And my god, man, your voice is uninteresting. Just when I thought no one's voice could be more uninteresting and monotone than mine, I find you. There's my two cents. I'd like to watch what you'd do with it, but I just don't care anymore.
ShadowofaRoar 1 year ago
after watching how the world works video he baces many "facts'' are SYMPLY OPINIONS
grimlin667 1 year ago
Lee's voice is far sexier than yours though.
Khyrid 1 year ago
the closest thing to an innocent explanation that i can come up with is the dunning-kruger effect. wikipedia: "a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority" i came across this explanation when trying to understand the actions of my co-worker, who i believe is a clear case.
narkfly 1 year ago 2
There is no innocent explanation. Lee Doran has no concern with integrity, truth, justice, unless it can be used by him to make money. If he doesn't need to do it, he won't.
KozmoJ68 1 year ago
He's a lawyer? He clearly has trouble understanding complex arguments and obviously does a shabby job of researching his video's topics, so how on Earth does he function as a lawyer?
Textra1 1 year ago
@Textra1
I'm of course referring to Lee (HowTheWorldWorks) here, not LiberalViewer. I hate having to make disclaimers like this but you can guarantee that if I don't explicitly state it, some nimrod will make that assumption.
Textra1 1 year ago
@Textra1 Do we even know if he's a good lawyer?
SQuiRR3LM0nk3y 1 year ago
Meh... I also really dislike when people who are supposed to be on my side tell me that it's a waste of time addressing certain issues. Sometimes a problem (even a stupid one) NEEDS to be put to rest. Otherwise this would stick in your mind, nagging you forever. So you did a good thing for yourself. I'm not familiar with this whole issue (and it is the better part of a year old now), but I would surmise this helped you greatly in the end. Big fan.
VideoMenu 1 year ago
You did the right thing. Comprehensive point by point demolitions of the sort of propaganda that Doren puts out are important.
The sole purpose of CEI is to launder anti-labor, anti-consumer and anti-environmental corporate talking points. To shill for Big Pharma, Big Oil, Tobacco Industy and the rest of the Rogues Gallery that are behind a range of propaganda machines ("Think Tanks"), fake front goups to run political ads, and fake "grassroots" (astroturfed) citizens groups.
SocialDemocrats 1 year ago
I think you've done more then enough. unfortunately this moron will never stop making these videos... Have you seen how many videos he has made attacking The Young Turks? It's almost unbelievable. This guy has way to much time on his hands.
His arguments can be seen through by anyone with a mind of their own. Anyone who thinks that someone would need to distort facts to show FOX news' bias is completely fucking retarded.
guitarfreak8900 1 year ago
No you have not wasted enough time
Lee deserves one swing with a very large bat for every video he ever regurgitated into existance
TheStrayCross 1 year ago
You've wasted enough time. Anyone that isn't completely biased or stupid can tell that Lee is a tool, in more ways than one.
jgoemat 1 year ago
I love how in the upper right it shows that you have 3,092 messages.
tifforo1 1 year ago
Sara Phalin poster (commercial) poster next to this video, how ironic
Hreinn91 1 year ago
Statusviewer present
simontimon2 1 year ago
Lee Doren is a damned liar. What else is new?
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
He reminds me of fundamental Christian creationists.
wildreams 1 year ago
How the world works is a nasty, capricious, factually incorrect liar who bears quite a fair amount of disdain for anyone that disagrees with him. I'd say that Lee Doran does not need beating in an argument. He beats himself.
Darthmas2242 1 year ago 2
I think the little weasel bastard is a lying asshole. The only reason he has a You-tube channel is because he would like a nice cushy job on Fox news or perhaps on Rush Limbaugh's emergency dingle berry maintenance crew; in other words he is a waste of time
rollerpodger 1 year ago
@phillip549 I say just leave it at this, Both sides are flawed, but you still need a little of both to make something good come around.
Shinraithegreat 1 year ago
lols fox sue its on people
doxdex1562 1 year ago
@phillip549 yes lets take the sins of conservatives and just slap them on liberals, who cares if theres no truth to it. Does that make you feel better?
Winterwolf00 1 year ago
@phillip549 riiiiight lol.
Naminator236 1 year ago
An innocent explanation, well unless if I question his sanity, no.
neacej1 1 year ago
Haha! What a loser! Suck on it, Lee!
91nickt 1 year ago
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smrtsTV 1 year ago
im tired of these fucking bp ads go fuck yourself bp
66Metalforlife66 1 year ago
liberalviewer: first just drop it. i dont think its worth the time anymore. second: im sorry you keep running into idiot conservatives. third: look for honest smart conservatives and keep an open dialoge with them. trust me they exist. its great when they stump you and you can stump them back. and fourth: keep the videos coming. i may not always agree but they are great talking points for the rest of my day
sidney4747 1 year ago
yes don't worry about him. Its like arguing with a two year old.
CaeserAexix 1 year ago
you 2 need to get a room
watch both of you and i don't really agree with either completely, but c'mon, it's a lot of the pot calling the kettle black. you both need to stop the slander and focus on what you think, not what the other person thinks
muzza1688 1 year ago
LOL! Okay, I liked the video, but the relentless barrage of links was amusing.
AtheistBaby 1 year ago
Epic Fail- 0
Epic Win-4,263
love your videos
somethingblablabla 1 year ago
No you haven't wasted enough time because you haven't proved Lee wrong. but nice try though. You sidestepped every possible rebuttal and you refused to make a video response which is what youtube wants. So try again or quit.
CDubSD 1 year ago
How do they keep coming up with such original sh*t! Just saw it online at lastnightstvshows (.) com
sneakyfacsim 1 year ago
Howworldworks is dam super troll
bumfire007 1 year ago
I don't see it as a complete waste of time. It's good for a laugh. Plus someone needs to be putting on full display this level of dishonesty.
Darkconis 1 year ago
yes u have wasted ur time, this should be a lesson for you that any right winger is simply a waste of time. because they always look at one sided coins.
generalxulfi 2 years ago
Stop wasting your time with this dishonest ideologue.
RuinousRight 2 years ago
Keep up the good work Liberal Viewer. As long as I'm alive I'll support intelligence and reason over corporate propaganda.
baxtar1963 2 years ago
In contrast, libertarian thinker Karl Hess considered both Hitler and Stalin right-wingers. I think Hess would classify Mao as right-wing also. No matter how Stalin and Mao paint themselves Red, they are in fact State-Capitalists.
Although the Nazis banned vivisection and were environmentalists, right-libertarian Murray Rothbard had argued that rightists can be greenies, namely because they have the incentive conserve their private property for future use.
DonKhoi 2 years ago
At this point, anyone with their ears and eyes open understands and agrees.
Stealtheeee 2 years ago
Lee Doran's a lawyer? He looks like he's barely even 20. Well if he is a lawyer him and LiberalViewer need to get themselves in a good ol' fashioned Lawyer Fight.
Tatchko 2 years ago
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Lies and censorship: how the conservative world works.
CreationistVotebot99 2 years ago 39
@CreationistVotebot99
I am conservative in many ways and Lee does not represent the way the conservative world works. Lee is just an lying and censoring offensive prick.
pupsenok 1 year ago
@CreationistVotebot99 what the liberals don't?
lovejen01 1 year ago
@lovejen01 if you can point out any lies and/or censorship then they do. I see trolling constantly on msnbc videos from teabaggers calling them liars, idiots and how blacks want free handouts. If you can actually come up with any facts I'd be happy to hear them. I'm sure there are, both parties are corrupt, but Dems aren't in bed with the Christian Dominionists, which is the lesser of two evils.
CreationistVotebot99 1 year ago
@CreationistVotebot99 well if think Dems are the lesser evil that is your opinion. Far as facts on tea baggers i have seen numerous videos blacks and other ethnic groups at these rally's and have seen Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow actually did accuse tea baggers as racist and idiots, when all ethnic groups are protesting. Also actually go to a rally for yourself who will see.
lovejen01 1 year ago
@lovejen01 The Tea Party may not be inherently racist, but the spokesman for the Tea Party Express certainly did a terrible job of distancing them from racism.
tifforo1 1 year ago
@tifforo1 Of course they distance from racist because that not what the tea bag party is about. You have to remeber and understand this the Dems wants all ethnic groups divided, that way they can have control ofr the people. There is more scary to politicians when people see the truth and unite.
lovejen01 1 year ago
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@lovejen01 "There is more scary to politicians when people see the truth and unite." Is this why the majority of Conservatives/Republicans are White/Christian?
tumadros 1 year ago
@lovejen01 i don't think you understood my comment watch trhe video again, the video claims tea bag party are racist/ ignorant but which is far from the truth. Also the right has been bias and the left is not bias?
lovejen01 1 year ago
@lovejen01 keep deluding yourself with fact-free bullshit. Remember, plate tectonics don't cause earthquakes, homosexuals do. And if you don't believe that, you're not a true conservative.
CreationistVotebot99 1 year ago
@CreationistVotebot99 i ws being sacrastic in the last sentence about who is being bias, i should made indication to that point.
lovejen01 1 year ago
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@lovejen01 I repeat my last statement.
CreationistVotebot99 1 year ago
@CreationistVotebot99 No but the Dems are in bed with radical Islam and dictators along with communist countries that don't like the U.S.. Like whn NObama was with buddy Hugo Chavez . Chavez was just bashing America and NObama just sat thier bobbing his head up down and saying yes it is America fault.
lovejen01 1 year ago
I don't understand why people are debating over pointless things. The real enemies right now is Wallstreet. We need to end all of the unnessary bailouts and bring every single ceo who linged their pockets with tax payer money. We need to audit the Federal Reserve get back all of the money they took. Convervative and liberal doesn't mean a thing anymore what matters now is that restore economic competition, get people back to work, and end the corruption in the fancial system!
PATTONM14A1 2 years ago
Liberalviewer for president
Luke13PL 2 years ago 2
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HAHAHA! We are going to butt rape all of you left wing liberal socialists in november, and there is not damn thing you trolls can do about it. Hows Ted Kennedy doing these days? HAHAHA! FOX NEWS FOREVER! PALIN/BROWN 2012!
traceadams67 2 years ago
lolz praise xenu faggot
PETAVER 2 years ago
I butt raped xenu and he crapped you out, so you can call me DAD.
traceadams67 2 years ago
@traceadams67
Palin/brown? Seriously? Man that would be SWEET, bigger Democratic landslide than Obama's first win if they put a loser pair like that on the ticket. I have to assume this is parody, a real republican would have sought out stronger candidates.
Darkfirebrand 2 years ago
Are you a closeted homosexual? Surely among liberals there are folks of the same gender as yours.
DonKhoi 2 years ago
I'm doin your mom, so be more respectful son. By the way, dont be hate'in on homos or they wont pay you for the hand jobs you give them in the park, then you cant sit in the basement playin warcraft and eatin cheessy poofs.
traceadams67 2 years ago
looks like lee's gonna be some crappy politician later in life. or some crappy worker in any job
titandown 2 years ago
fucking awesome at 3:30
titandown 2 years ago
Lee Doren is the biggest waist of time that ever walked on this planet.
coffee396 2 years ago 2
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Lee beat you.
Your butt hurt.
Soulbreakergx 2 years ago
Smells like trolling.
KnightTemplar108 2 years ago
Lol funny make non liberal brain disorder statement and people vote it off. Funny guys.
chadwik977 2 years ago
fake
TheNumberOneTroll87 2 years ago
Holy S&^&T! What are we goung to do about SCOTUS?
davisfleetwood 2 years ago
Hey LiberalViewer, just one point on the mails you allegedly repeatedly sent to HTWW, YouTube's mail system isn't flawless by any means. Is it possible that the system glitched and repeatedly sent?
I don't think this lets Lee off the hook at all. He certainly seems to have made no effort to assertain or demonstrate that this is not in fact the case.
TheGodlessGuitarist 2 years ago
Lee argues like so many other far right zeolots. Attack to distract.
RuinousRight 2 years ago 2
'zealots' that is.
Don't waste too much time on this fool.
RuinousRight 2 years ago
Wait... Wat, Did you srsly just say that HTWW is a Lawyer!?
I'm surprised he has that level of education yet spouts such utter nonsense as he does in every video he makes.
I'm going to be Very careful about choosing a lawyer in the future if I need one.
DackIsBack 2 years ago 2
insecurities*
chadwik977 2 years ago
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LOL this is sad. You are clearly a flaming democrat but can't even make your own arguements. All you can do is try to make the opposing side look bad to make your side look better. Please learn to make an arguement or report something and not try to show how the other side lies when it is all a matter of opinion. Maybe one day you will be able to make half the arguement HowTheWorldWorks makes instead of going around trying to make people look dumb out of your own securities.
chadwik977 2 years ago
Counting is a matter of opinion?
ezakustam 2 years ago
Lee is insulting and arrogant, and the fact that he has so many subscribers here while other decent and talent youtubers continue to be highly under subscribed, is disgraceful.
Really enjoyed this and your other videos,
TheKitch2.
TheKitch2 2 years ago
Why waste time on someone who obviously is not going to admit when he's blatantly wrong, and instead resorts to baseless attacks on you, who just politely pointed out mistakes in his analysis. I would even say you're written rebuttals gave him time and effort, which he didn't deserve and could have been put to better use.
TheKitch2 2 years ago
That's obviously bullshit. Fox just doesn't want to have their news slammed, and couldn't think of a better reason to chastise their most successful show.
bryguy95 2 years ago
Lee is a waste of time. YES, you've taken that little weasel to the cleaners.
of course, it never hurts to point out his lies and ignorance! =-p
expose him for what he is every chance you get if you want, but i wouldn't say it's necessary.
Zentz29 2 years ago 2
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You lose the argument. Most of your points are little more than insults. Poor. You fail.
MrEmesis 2 years ago
Q. 1 = No
Q. 2 = Yes
Happy New Year (and to all LiberalViewer viewers)
pce
hearNyou 2 years ago 6
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stfu u got owned by howtheworldworks
iRad11 2 years ago
You win this argument. Nice job.
Omatic810 2 years ago 40
Hardly
upabittoolate 2 years ago
find da duchey on the right hand side da da da find da duchey on the right hand side.hes a liar and so he will call you a liar.this is a liars first line of defense I believe that my experience(with liars)This experience fueled my hatred (for liars)
thanksforthemessdick 2 years ago
lee doren can't eve be mentioned in the same paragraph with "integrity"
symelian 2 years ago 10
@symelian without a negitive in the same sentance
peoplearemessedup 1 year ago
pwned.
vanuoa 2 years ago
Lee is a douche!
latequilera22 2 years ago 5
Lee is an attorney!?! God help us all...
JuanT42 2 years ago
Excellent!
lexZender57732 2 years ago
the master debater is a wanker,lol is that news
sausage4mash 2 years ago
Liberalviewer, put your tin foil hat back on, Fox News won't be able to read your brain waves.
traceadams67 2 years ago
@ traceadams67
I find this comment very ironic as Fox news is full of the kind of tinfoil hat wearing nutjobs which is what you just called LV.
KnightTemplar108 2 years ago
as an underdog like forever all i can say is having an modern ammount of fact and intelligence is stupid peoples kryponite and myself continue to be made fun of, dissed,told some pretty one sided opinions because I ACTUALLY THINK FOR MYSELF!...atleast these liberals i like, too bad the ones in canada are more or less the republicans and don't rule fairly and only care about information that profits them so plz continue to proving these knuckleknobs wrong ty.
Supageeksupafreek 2 years ago
You didn't need to LV. Anyone with half an intellect can see that Doren is a douche (but I'm glad you pointed out his lies for the YouTube community to see). AND THAT'S THE GAME FOLKS!!!
sandite26 2 years ago 2
Allen doesn't like ad-hominems. He will call you on that I'm sure. (that means you're a douche).
bush1tman 2 years ago
Is Allen LV? And..... why do you have to act like that? Doren IS a douche.... because I don't explain the technical, legalistic reasoning as to the "why," you feel prompted to lash out at me? Thanks bro.... maybe we'll find more ways to waste even more time with one another.....
sandite26 2 years ago
sandite26 so there is a "technical, legalistic reasoning as to the "why" " Lee Doren is a "douche"? ........That would be interesting to hear as I can't imagine such a thing.
And LiberalViewers name is Allen Asch, an ACLU board director in the Sacramento area. Thanks for replying.
bush1tman 2 years ago
I'm just saying since the internet has spawned these multitudes of armchair attorneys, you can't just say that something's a duck..... even if it walks and talks like one, without someone like you acting as the YouTube comment police.... I like "Allen." I think Doren is a douchebag propagandist (and more recently publicized opportunist). But I've learned that my opinion means nothing, especially considering the ratings that Fox news gets in comparison to every other cable news outlet.
sandite26 2 years ago
Well if you can identify a 'douche' by the way it walks and talks I'll give you props. But a duck I can show you by the way it walks and talks and I am not an attorney, armchair or otherwise. Thanks again
bush1tman 2 years ago
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bush1tman 2 years ago
waste more time please, maybe thats how people like Lee learn...
FimaWWW 2 years ago
Hell no. There is no excuse. He is funded by right wingers and does that without a soul.
hyugakarn 2 years ago
what is with your mono tone voice? you sound like a robot
davidthrashdat 2 years ago
I'm a subscriber to both you and how the world works (just to see things from both sides of the fence) and though I do find when he and you butting heads entertaining, I think you should both agree to disagree and move on
starkwether 2 years ago
no ,he is a cunt ,dont waste your time with him
CHANNELOMD 2 years ago
this is sick.
DrFirestarter 2 years ago
And you point out many good examples of the complexity of left/right dynamic that people can really be all over the place unless left/right is narrowly defined. "Political Compass" puts Nazis center right because their policies werent strictly right. Which is why I see the historical categories of left/right almost useless.
Out of interest, how do you define left/right? (in other words what system of definition do you use). w/o a clear definition Ron Paul and Mao could be the same.
sputnik323 2 years ago
You are right about more dimensions. Although when you add more dimensions the position is on a 'compass' and no longer just left/right, adding more complexity than the general use of the terms. For example, Nazis believed in eugenics; historically a leftist social ideal. Therefore in some ways they were socially right in others socially left.
Government control seems to capture elements of economic and social left/right but the dimensions are so convoluted in history it is hard to separate.
sputnik323 2 years ago
You should sue Fox for the false DMCA. Its your right, and youre a lawyer for christ's sake. You will also bring more attention to FOX's deception.
truthofevolution 2 years ago 2
LiberalViewer,
My two cents:
Enough time is never spent in fighting disinformation and those who would spread it.
I know you have much bigger fish to fry, but whenever you have any spare time, please do continue to expose HTWW.
amoxtlacatl 2 years ago
I'm tossing my 2 cents in with
amoxtlacatl !!!
MeltingPointYT 2 years ago
@TDudeFSW
It depends on how you are describing left and right... historically left and right are different than philosophical left and right.
Philosophical left/right are described by government control. farthest left is most government control ... farthest right is no government. Under this definition... all totalitarian and authoritarian movements are left. historical categories of left/right dont mean much because libertarians would be considered left, but everyone calls them right wing.
sputnik323 2 years ago
Sooo..what kind of cheeses do you guys like?
bittersweetsymfny 2 years ago
Incorrect. All of those philosophies came from the left. Mussolini was a communist in his beginnings and carried many ideas over to his brand of fascism. Hitler and anticommunist took left wing racial philosophies and his party was the National Socialist party. Left wing not right wing.
bush1tman 2 years ago
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Retact 2 years ago
Nazi means National Socialist
bush1tman 2 years ago
Holy Shit! you were right about something.
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