Plastics In Our Oceans - The 'Plastiki' Expedition

[ftopdirs]

Good Video very informative

[ctopdirs]

sukses bro

[JeniTheBat]

Rancak ko aa

[TheJatmikoo]

I Love my Video :P

[MyDavidsun]

so much information

[andreeaweed]

great video

[TheSanovita]

Lovely video

[KingTreonn]

not sure how i got on this video...

[thetanyaofanand]

We should help the enviorment

[penorianfury]

So.... they're going to take a plastic boat straight into a patch of sea that plastic never returns from?

[Supportahol]

They better not break a bottle of champagne off the boat on its maiden voyage!

[NOCOMPLACENCYCOM]

Why is there not a salvage project enacted? It could be cost efective to use this a recycling stock for many uses...ships would only need to drag through the pile w/ nets, secure nets to each other, and then a freighter picks up the bales in the water w/ cranes..c'mon people and industry, think about it! W

[brennant74]

Presidents from various countries have met a few times to talk about how the can help the environment but they just talk and really never do nothing. I think they should help each other to build at least one big recycling plant in each country to recycle all the plastic they can in each country and reuse it. That would generate many jobs as well for people who didn't study.

[heylister]

I think most people don't care enough about the environment for this to matter to them (until it's all too late). The ONLY way in my opinion to save ourselves from pollution and global warming is heavy handed global international government legislation with hard hitting deterrents that is properly enforced. A pipe dream basically.

[OK2BCK]

Regardles of what David Rothschild is doing, he can go FUCK himself any time. I don't buy his crap, he is a muppet.

Otherwise interesting video.

[BlackRaptor31]

lol

What a coincidence it collected in a place called "eastern garbage patch"

[yourcamden]

Why not pay unemployed Somali fish people to fish for this plastic.

[TheRationalizer]

@yourcamden Because you cannot guarantee the plastic they produce is from the sea.

It would be better to find an alternative material, and in the meantime use less plastic.

[luckystrke]

this makes me so sad

[Craydon]

What ever happened to those bacteria that eat nylon? Why not breed bacteria that can eat most types of plastic and then gather this stuff out of the ocean and let these bacteria go at it?

[DeadlyChinchilla]

You want to release synthetic bacteria into the wild...? Because... we know that would be... safe? Or maybe it would be worse.

How about we just clean up our own mess. Its not like we don't have the gear to do it.

[StopSpamming1]

At last! A person who thinks about consequences! I just wish there were more of you around.

[Craydon]

You'll note I still advocated removing this crap from the ocean since even if it can be broken down, that much fertilizer would wreck havoc with the ocean. Get it out, break it down and use it as fertilizer.

[Craydon]

@DeadlyChinchilla It's not synthetic, it's a naturally occurring mutation. What I'm suggesting is to try and recreate that mutation with more plastics in mind and use it on stuff we fish out of the ocean.

[DeadlyChinchilla]

Umm... no. Its called nylonese, and its not a natural mutation.  It was created in a lab by people playing with genetic structure. The same for other similar synthetically created bacteria. Its artificial selection, like what we do with dogs.

I'm not against the idea of using it for the better of course, but we can't go releasing stuff like that into nature without intensive study on what unintended consequences there might be. It doesn't disappear when the plastics been eaten.

[Itslvle]

It's nylonase and the mutation occurred in nature. The Flavobacterium producing the enzyme were found in 1975 in the waste water of a factory that produces nylon.

[DeadlyChinchilla]

Oh, gee, sorry my spelling is so bad you have to correct it on YouTube comments! Grammar nazi much?

The waste water of a FACTORY is not "in nature," btw. Unless hazardous material is also found "in nature." If I leave my trash in the wilderness after camping, and someone finds it, did "nature" develop it? Of course not, *I* did.

[Itslvle]

Yeah I'm a bit of a grammar nazi sometimes.

You said "It was created in a lab by people playing with genetic structure.". The waste water of a factory is hardly a lab and I doubt many people would speak of "people playing with genetic structure" here.

Nature can mean different things. Here I obviously meant that it was something that happened without humans actually trying to do anything with bacteria. They just mutated on their own to better survive in their environment.

[DeadlyChinchilla]

Nice job nitpicking. They took this stuff into a lab and tested it. Then they enhanced the mutation by environmental pressures. That they found a component of it in a less-than-natural but non-lab setting would be a norm. Most things are observed before laboratory testing takes place.

Their environment was not natural at all, that was my point. It was released into a natural setting, it didn't develop there. That, and "waste water" is not a great case study for releasing more of it.

[Itslvle]

I just find it funny that you're accusing me of nitpicking while complaining about my use of the word 'nature'.

Okay, now I get what you meant. I'd still phrase it differently myself though. Your wording gives the idea that the initial form was made in a lab rather than being breeded to be more effective. People rarely use phrases like "playing with genetic structure" unless they mean genetic engineering.

I don't get the last part though. Why does it matter that it was "waste water"?

[DeadlyChinchilla]

Sorry if my first post was confusing. Type format gets me sometimes.

Waste water is refuse from a factory/lab, etc. Its not a natural formation or a naturally occuring situation. Its just released by unscrupulous places without proper filtering into lakes/streams. But then, its still not "natural," being factory waste. Its just high-scale littering, really. To say the nylonase formed "in nature" is deceptive, since it formed in a non-natural waste deposit.

[Itslvle]

Granted, one probably ought explain that "in nature" bit. Then again, it might be apparent considering it's nylon the bacteria is using. :)

But what I meant to ask was what you meant by saying that waste water isn't a great case study for releasing more of it?

[DeadlyChinchilla]

In its current state, or in a further mutated state, such a unique bacteria could cause chaos in a natural setting unprepared for its introduction. There are no studies, no information, on what might happen to an environment if a non-native bacteria, especially one we pretty much created (be it through our waste and/or lab work), were released into it.

Its like taking rabbits to Australia, now they've taken over as massive pests, destroying native animals food sources.

[Itslvle]

Ah, gotcha. Seems that we don't have any real disagreements then. We just speak differently enough that it makes communication a little confusing at times, at least for me. :)

[teemuruskeepaa]

"The damage it does is starting to be researched". How do you know there's damage before research, unless you just assume so, and is research supposed to be your political insurance?

[JmSantos78]

We should figure out a way to pick up all that garbage and recicle it. I'm not sure but I think it's fairly easy to recicle plastic, just melt it and re-shape it.

[hash1212]

Why cant they just recycle plastic? I always thought you could just reheat plastic to some high temperatures and melt it and re use it...

[DeadlyChinchilla]

You can, but its more complex than just reforming plastic from one form to another. The chemicals in plastic, and used to make it, are horribly toxic in most forms (gas, liquid, even solid at high heat). The process of reforming it is dangerous work, and recycling plastics, even though its smart to do, is actually LESS energy efficient than making new plastic. (They use more coal to recycle plastic than to create new plastic.)

So ist a combination of factors.

[ebaltrace]

Great video

[TheHigherVoltage]

it's funny how we'll pay through the nose to "study" how we fuck up the world...and rarely pay a cent to just fix it.

[V0r4xiz]

Like an eccentric multi billionaire of the Rothschild family, sailing with a multimillion dollar boat made of [stupid idea that's expensive and avantgarde] through garbage will do ANYTHING to the ecologic awareness and responsibility of companies. Publicity whore in the disguise of a pseudo-eco activist. Pathetic.

Using the same amount of money to actually clean up the garbage would do 10 times better but produces no publicity and doesn't satisfy his eccentricism...

[thebutler89]

Yeah this isn't solving the problem. I would like to see someone design a ship that removes the plastic from the water...I would donate to see that happen.

[ebaltrace]

@thebutler89 Good idea! Perhaps we need a boat that travels through the garbage patch sucking up all the plastic and compressing it into bales. The bales can be heated to melt the plastic so the bales become solid and the solid bales can be sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

[Athaeus]

@thebutler89 In order for people to donate to such a boat however, people must first be aware of the massive problem there is. And this is the first step to enlightening people. The second step will be solving the problem once the funds are there.

[lazyperfectionist1]

You'll see different organizations competing to see who can do a better job of designing such a ship once reusable plastic becomes practical and profitable.

[Paddyslippers]

i hope it doesn't fall apart on the way or there will be a bigger problem

[LucaModernTalking]

I agree @ 4N0NYM0U557..Recycling!

I have an idea, we COULD switch off for 24 hours the power electricity and every one of us will stay without IT, to proclaim a "MOTHER NATURE DAY" Or A "POWER DOWN DAY"

In this case we will understand that we have to respect our planet.Hospitals and emergency service centre that they do need power they will use back power generator anyway!

WE DO NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW, THAT WE STILL IN TIME! All Government should think about it instead to orgagnise wars!

[DistinctiveBlend]

@LucaModernTalking,

I understand you present your idea in good faith but turning off power plants and forcing necessary infrastructure onto backup generators for 24 hours would do more damage to the environment than leaving them as is. This is because the amount of energy required to shutdown and then start up a power plant is huge and generators are inefficient as they're petroleum driven.

Ideally we need better management of our power supplies while moving onto cleaner and/or renewable power.

[Athaeus]

@LucaModernTalking We already have Earth Hour. Such power-down moments only serve to make people feel good about themselves - then don't contribute the slightest to a better tomorrow.

[jebus6kryst]

I do not see how this is teaching anyone about plastic waste. They should get out there in a boat and help clean up the area, not sail through it in a boat made of trash.

I really do not see how this is helping.

[Link10893]

Do you know how big a patch of garbage twice the size of Texas is. I can't even begin to think how long it would take to clean up.

[Neeboopsh]

just get in a little boat, with a garbage bag and clean up millions of tons of garbage :P

[jebus6kryst]

I know. That is why they should start cleaning it now instead of sailing through it. I really do not see the point of them doing that when they could start helping right away.

[rodgod82]

I just post a video on facebook about the garbage patch and now i come on youtube and what i found on the new channel i subscribe yesterday ?lol

[13thtrece]

if people where hired to gather all that plastic in those areas would that not help improve the world economy?

[MoreSciFiThanScience]

Can you imagine if it sinks and adds more debris to the patch lol

[4N0NYM0U557]

recycling is teh future, or there is no future!

[pandemoniac08]

Pretty sweet and igneous. Hope it goes well.