This form is done nicely, however- if you are concentrating on hip power movement the finish result of each movement with an elastic wave generated from the hips and finishing with an electric shock at the fingertips always the end result rite.
the movement at 0:32 is called Hands around the Moon. Both arms do a vertical circling affect...akin to downward L. backfist followed by downward R. strike followed by an overhead then downward L strike again with a upwards backfist. This move can be used many ways: as I described or as a means to envelope the person and throw them.... and obviously many other techniques....
@TheFoxClaw Hopefully someone more confident in their knowledge of such things will correct me if i'm wrong, but i've heard it reffered to as "three rings circling the moon" it includes the swinging right and left arms, and the extention left and right.
Gongliquan the form itself is older than the Nanjing Kuoshu Institute. It was taught at the original Shanghai Jingmo/Chingwoo school. The system that the Gongliquan form itself comes from is not widely practiced anymore, but the form is such a useful training tool that it's been widely adopted into other long-arm/long fist systems.
That's really well contained isn't it? Energy and symmetry, the simplest things can be the most difficult do well. A question though, technically, should his rear heel come off the ground when changing stance, sometimes it does, sometimes not (I don't know the style so have no idea if it's an issue, it is in Hung Kuen, I stress technically speaking)? Either way it looks a very useful form.
It's not a problem in Longfist because in actual use the longer bow stance/mountain climbing (dengshan) stance will naturally be smaller, with the rear heel coming off the ground slightly.
Actually make that many many thanks! I've just suffered a vid of some 'Sifu''s abortionate idea of Hung Kuen, they don't understood it at all. It makes me angry and sad I don't have the health anymore.
People like you do more good than perhaps you realise.
great form, I learned it years ago but I can't find a video that shows applications for it... Can anyone suggest a video that could be helpful for learning applications on this form?
Very good! I practice Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut which is a southern style of kung fu with a lot of northern long range influence. You can really see from this form the similarities. Cool!
Good movement. I also enjoy how it is filmed. They actually took the time to have smooth cuts and camerawork and frame the shot properly so that the entire form could be examined.
the beginning is similar to the Gongli chuan I was taught and has similar techniques but some parts are totally different. Mine is in preparation for Seven Star Praying Mantis. Perhaps therein lies a difference? I heard there are many versions of this form
the stances in mine are often less wide and low. The power I generate is mostly from the waist, but in a way part of it is started from the foot up.
The power in Longfist comes from the waist while the upper body remains very relaxed. If you do something like Karate or Hung Ga which use more upper body tension it may look weak, but it's just a different kind of power generation.
I do long fist. I think your stances are pretty good, but I just don't feel your power (which I believe should be coming from your legs through your waist, not from the waist). I think your form will be 10 times better if your manifest your power more clearly.
The power comes from coordinated movement of the legs, hips, waist and shoulders. However, the arms themselves use minimal tension. I think you can see this pretty clearly if you look closely.
The power also comes from the spine, especially in those double punches. How do you get power in a punch with two hands? The idea is to use the spine, and then you can use that power in the spine in other, single hand, techniques, to improve overall power. It's a very good form for power. Anyway, I thought that this form was quite old, from Henan, not just created in Nanjing. Either way, it's a useful form.
As far as demonstration level performances go, this is quite good. In combat, individual moves might of course show a bit differently, but no more or less powerful really.
This form is done nicely, however- if you are concentrating on hip power movement the finish result of each movement with an elastic wave generated from the hips and finishing with an electric shock at the fingertips always the end result rite.
hockchong108 1 month ago
this is the basic sequence its gives you power on the tendons
wudang23 1 year ago
the movement at 0:32 is called Hands around the Moon. Both arms do a vertical circling affect...akin to downward L. backfist followed by downward R. strike followed by an overhead then downward L strike again with a upwards backfist. This move can be used many ways: as I described or as a means to envelope the person and throw them.... and obviously many other techniques....
PBIKungfu 1 year ago
What's the original chinese name of the technique at 0:32? (when spread arms left and right)??
TheFoxClaw 1 year ago
@TheFoxClaw Hopefully someone more confident in their knowledge of such things will correct me if i'm wrong, but i've heard it reffered to as "three rings circling the moon" it includes the swinging right and left arms, and the extention left and right.
Nowekian 1 year ago
Gongliquan the form itself is older than the Nanjing Kuoshu Institute. It was taught at the original Shanghai Jingmo/Chingwoo school. The system that the Gongliquan form itself comes from is not widely practiced anymore, but the form is such a useful training tool that it's been widely adopted into other long-arm/long fist systems.
wolfram49 1 year ago
That's really well contained isn't it? Energy and symmetry, the simplest things can be the most difficult do well. A question though, technically, should his rear heel come off the ground when changing stance, sometimes it does, sometimes not (I don't know the style so have no idea if it's an issue, it is in Hung Kuen, I stress technically speaking)? Either way it looks a very useful form.
Thanks for the upload.
front131 2 years ago
It's not a problem in Longfist because in actual use the longer bow stance/mountain climbing (dengshan) stance will naturally be smaller, with the rear heel coming off the ground slightly.
onyomi 2 years ago
Many thanks for the quick reply!
front131 2 years ago
Actually make that many many thanks! I've just suffered a vid of some 'Sifu''s abortionate idea of Hung Kuen, they don't understood it at all. It makes me angry and sad I don't have the health anymore.
People like you do more good than perhaps you realise.
front131 2 years ago
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great form, I learned it years ago but I can't find a video that shows applications for it... Can anyone suggest a video that could be helpful for learning applications on this form?
hafeezy1 2 years ago
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hafeezy1 2 years ago
why do you but your hand down when you kick??
the video is very impressive
would be fun to watch applications
atpforever1 3 years ago
In order to protect an otherwise exposed groin...
yattaok 2 years ago
Very good! I practice Buk Sing Choy Lay Fut which is a southern style of kung fu with a lot of northern long range influence. You can really see from this form the similarities. Cool!
hulkout666 3 years ago
Very Good
YhaoKhan 3 years ago
It reminds of many Pak Hok Pai/Lama sets too. It all goes back to N.Shaolin/Long Fist branches.
blackarawak83 4 years ago
Good movement. I also enjoy how it is filmed. They actually took the time to have smooth cuts and camerawork and frame the shot properly so that the entire form could be examined.
WarriorBoy 4 years ago
the beginning is similar to the Gongli chuan I was taught and has similar techniques but some parts are totally different. Mine is in preparation for Seven Star Praying Mantis. Perhaps therein lies a difference? I heard there are many versions of this form
the stances in mine are often less wide and low. The power I generate is mostly from the waist, but in a way part of it is started from the foot up.
KuKulzA28 4 years ago
hes a longfist teacher.
toykilla1982 4 years ago
does anyone follow yang jwing-ming?
toykilla1982 4 years ago
I am agreed with Oyomi, the power in long fist come from the waist. How can you determined if this movent dont has power, you are only wath a VD?
My gun li is very similar.
rhinokung 5 years ago
haha mine style also different but very similiar
jsooi 5 years ago
Yeah,I can still recognize that Gong Li movements and it will vary among schools.I was taught by George Ling Hu Shifu
shengchenfan 5 years ago
great =) also, my form is different
myself36 5 years ago
Gongliquan means the power training sequence... where's your power?
macacoraivoso 5 years ago
The power in Longfist comes from the waist while the upper body remains very relaxed. If you do something like Karate or Hung Ga which use more upper body tension it may look weak, but it's just a different kind of power generation.
onyomi 5 years ago
I do long fist. I think your stances are pretty good, but I just don't feel your power (which I believe should be coming from your legs through your waist, not from the waist). I think your form will be 10 times better if your manifest your power more clearly.
macacoraivoso 5 years ago
The power comes from coordinated movement of the legs, hips, waist and shoulders. However, the arms themselves use minimal tension. I think you can see this pretty clearly if you look closely.
onyomi 5 years ago
Its a shame people bash on what they dont understand.. I think its good
redsamuraidragon 5 years ago
The power also comes from the spine, especially in those double punches. How do you get power in a punch with two hands? The idea is to use the spine, and then you can use that power in the spine in other, single hand, techniques, to improve overall power. It's a very good form for power. Anyway, I thought that this form was quite old, from Henan, not just created in Nanjing. Either way, it's a useful form.
blackjamm 4 years ago
karater power comes from the waist
atpforever1 3 years ago
1) Never mistake speed for power
2) It's gongli, not shaobaiji : )
As far as demonstration level performances go, this is quite good. In combat, individual moves might of course show a bit differently, but no more or less powerful really.
Thank you for posting this video!
SpiritsVisceral 5 years ago
cool video thats the form i am learning at the moment
shaolinnessa 5 years ago
Pretty Good
detced 5 years ago
the gong li quan i learn is abit difference
KURITAbunnie 5 years ago
I know a lohan version of this form called kuen lay kune.. heh..
redsamuraidragon 5 years ago