I was fortunate to meet monica and do a workshop with her on this subject; it is difficult to argue against the fact that the 'positive thinking' movement demonises
anything and everything 'negative' and live in a coulorfull version of the polarized abrahamic god gibberers..ultimately, poositive thinking argues that war is positive, being dynamic, expansive and victorious, and peace, being by its very nature passive is negative and evil.
@niallobinghe If I had a pund for everytime I have mentioned Monica's name to people I would have quite a bit of money! She has been a great inspiration for me. Yes they dont understand that phonetic learnt words can become a life unto themself so you say---'positive' and you assume it is and can be independent of 'negative--another word. Not feeling the reality that what 'they' are is a dynamic wholistic process that ultimately cannot be cut up, and it TRYING to which causes much of the crap
I think the noosphere can't exist if it isn't an authentic interconnection, and creative unity with all beings. A dynamic, living ecosystem of minds. This can't exist in the terror, all-controlling state conspiracies that claim to be underway. I have more hope for humanity than that... Tho it is important we heed warnings, it's most important to see the light AND the darkness in all things as one dynamic process.
Actually the book I read it from, author Monica Sjoo is FAR more in the know about the New Age and its duplicity than you appear to be, for what I have heard from you. All you really say is: 'no it isn't'...
Of COURSE the Abrahamic myth functions. of course it does. You are in denial, how can anyone debate with that closedmindedness?
I think it depends on what old role model you mean.
Take blood sacrifice. that is VERY old one, and BOTh Goddess and God religion is supposed to have practised it, plus some polytheism, like eg., Mayan culture etc
Now, I sense that that was a mis-take , and that ORIGINAL role model was entheogenic ecstatic flowing release group emotion
Interesting series. By the way, has anyone else noticed how few of the YT population actually give a shit about these topics...? Just an observation ;)
and btw. yesterday saw this young kid just talikin about this dumb film he'd seen, where he says he hates romantic crap but loves blowing up things---ie, and talkin crap...ahhhhhhh he had 250,000 views! of course quite a few could be paedos! Weird huh?
LoL -power to have power and to get more power is not satisfactional, just say then you dont know :-P..Looking at it as they support the horus cult,and jesuites are the most modern thing in that tradition...Then ask yourself this:Why did jesus want everyone to believe in god? What would happen if this worked? What IF the entire world likes to wear green socks and swallow everything you feed them? You SHOULD have a higher goal/purpose.If the world is my army of willing slaves, what would GOD do?
haha yeah I can get that, but me, the honest heathen fool hanging upside down on a branchlooking at the world, DOESNT have a single CLUE what this desert GOD says.
I'm sorry, I honestly dont know what the zoroastrian/judean/islamic/christian ideal is. All I know is that hey want to have the biggest team. But I havent got a single clue why...
See if I had the biggest cock in town, with the smootest talk, I probably would have the most sex - Thats the kind of logic I can grasp.
lol they probably have better things to do... looking for hotbabes, newest videoclips, bloopers etc. - Most people just want o be entertained, and kept happy with sweets :-)
The "normal" crowd simply fills its life with consuming :-D, and the more they feed on what "the masses" feed on, the more popular they get :-D.
Ever tried downloading music that ISNT in the top 40 or the top 1000? lol - I do quite often, and then all of the sudden the internet has very less to offer :P
I have been saying all along that Gary and I are more similar than he lets on... but I should distinguish the ways we each interpret "progress." He sees it as an entirely intellectual enterprise, that one day we will have perfect knowledge of and total control over nature. Teilhard's Omega Point is not about intelligence, knowledge, or control. It is about love.
I don't see technology as inherently bad. The internet's value comes from the level of consciousness of those who use it.
I agree that we should not obsess over the light and neglect the dark. I think Teilhard's Christianity incorporates evolution and recognizes the the whole of nature, including the noosphere, rises and falls together. The mud and roots and rivers and animals are just as much a part of the the process of ascension toward omega. Traditional Christianity rejected the flesh... I think Teilhard saw it as divine.
Yes, but see. What that idea is suggwesting is that Nature has to 'ascend'. beCOME 'spiritualized'! rather, as Monica Sjoo emphasizes the prepatriarchal understanding is Nature IS sacred as-it-is
I see what you mean. I suppose the idea is that the human species is attempting to realize its spiritual nature. Nature itself is of course already sacred. One could argue that prior to our patriarchal culture, humans were already spiritual, but I think there were some rather barbaric practices associated even with Goddess worshipping peoples of the past. I think there is a developmental process taking place in the human species as we move from ethnocentric religion to planetary spirituality.
continue 2 haha. Ascension is an escapism, just like decention. going up, going down, changing your position with the BELIEVE it will change something. This means that there's a secret hope for change, change that some people dont dare to bring to themselves - they hope they will be forced into it. Just like christians wait for their savior...
The new age is allready happening for atleast 20 years. It is here, you can use it, it is real, all options are open.you can wait, for what?Eye-Opener?
Yeah, an escapism. A hope/dream. its like waiting for a 'saviour' trip only THIS time its technology that is the saviour!
But we have to be really aware of who is the enemy. who is the enemy through the generations that suppresses people. And how does technology RELATE to that process?!
Well we both know a bit about the how and what. Since people discovered the power and mysticism of numbers and letters, they also right away created an elite. The upperclass has allways had more credibility then the lower classes. Therefor now the term "knowledge=power"is at its peak right now. Modern technology has got its monopoly now, and because of that, technology has taken over the position from the gnostics ("those which know") We allways seek a leader, something that knows more, better
(cont.)We still worship waht we cannot understand, most basic wonders (storms, earthquakes, eclipses etc)All have been explained by science. Science is our advisor, The kind of advisor that hasnt failed yet. This science however is very limited, it only sets facts and analyses. It doesnt cover any consequences-you ask, we make exactly that.
In that way science has no conscious, no perspective, it is on demand service. it dont care bout interconnections,its loose from everything, whilstworld=not
science has no conscience, no perspective. 'offical science' and its workers beavering away in little hutches not knowing what the other beaverers are doing!
Think of the Manhattan Project!?
That 'project' was kept VERY secret. And many of those working on it, many didn't know final outcome
continues)) So when we look close at the concept of 'noosphere' what do we see? well coiner of term was trained Jesuit.
If you look at other sources like 'Illuminati whistleblower' Leo Zagami, the Jesuits are very much part of Illuminati and NWO plans for globalization!
LoL seems like you are more into that stuff with knowing names etc.- I on the otherhand arent really the conspiracy type of guy etc.- But still in my life I also encountered some freemasoners. I and masons understand eachother quite well theoretically. the thing is they want to "take away that which divides", and I say dividedness has its purpose if it were only for rivalry.This desire to make everything as 1 gets me going. if yourevert that again to patriarch and matriarch - ma = 0 and pa=1
in math the only thing where O is used for, is as Origine!, it isnt a number there. Believe me that there are people in those kind of clubs that are very aware of what is, and they truly try to make a formula. They come from the cults of pythagoras, and walk in templar heritage. Probably most not by blood lol but atleast with ideology. They see life as a mathematical problem, and constantly adjust the formula, to make it work. Breakingthe code of life, in order to shape it as you please.
I cant help it, I am inquisitive and when I get a hook I carry on pulling. I am very interested in HOW the occultist mindset Freemasonic/Illuminati/Knights orders etc ...how they have coopted Goddess religious symbols in insidious malesupremacist way.
continues)))Only Monica Sjoo and few others explore this malesupremaicist appropriation of Goddess symbolism, like the Serpent etc, and then subvert it for their own occulitst means of domination.
usually the scene is 'Christians' versus the 'satanists', the former not realizing their ideas stem from same patriarchal roots
cont2-Basically all this mess comes from again those same peeps from the desert that feel themselves the imported aliens with advanced knowledge.haha Maybe they even ARE - who knows? However it is inbetween the sperate divisions of archetypical humanoids, there is ATLEAST 1 polarity. The natural, and the mathematical. The mathematical system can influence the natural system, but the natural system cannot change the mathematical system. Maths, and the adoration of it, will eventually take us down
I believe that the elite have PUSHED a myth of themselves being the 'Fallen Angels' and this myth has been modified now as 'The Greys'!
this is complex LOL ;)))))
because as you know in magickal practice they can use imagination in various ways so its supposed. But does this make it real?
my view of the roots of the meaning of 'fallen angels' is that it means psychedelic mushrooms, and that it is an occultist mindset which has used them which coopts them for their own identity!
who are the greys? LoL - mushrooms abuse for gathering occult knowledge to fit into the mystic mind... hmm lolz you're having fun overthere arent you ? :-D
insights gathered by LOCAL herbs/plants shrooms is ok. I only think that each herb has got its own spirit, with its own cultural heritage. THIS is also the big danger of globalisation-Look at the bible,we will never understand that like someone from the region where its made.Just like people in africa wont understand the kalevala.
Well for example, David Icke 'used'? to talk about the elite bloodlines being hybrid with reptilian beings, like the 'Greys' (supposed ETs)
As for the 'fallen angels' being the mushrooms (must make a video about this!)~~A must read to get the gist is The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, by John M. Allegro. He is a philologist and translates 'Nephilim' (fallen angels/giants) to mean 'sacred mushrooms'
contin))So what I feel has happened is that a controlling mindset has used, and may still use psychedelics for the means of control rather than for sense of union with the WAY of Nature.
How why? intellectual self-aggrnadizment that at first was mistaken for superior intelligence. Not realizing the danger as the intellect becomes alienated from the Source
Oi Oi :-D - Well I just watched some illuminati clips on youtube, to get a better understanding about what IT is. That worked, only question is: Power they allready have, its clear they like to rule, but I miss PURPOSE. I can totally understand bush being a power horny prick- Eventho he looks dumb, the organisation he's part of, probably has got some kind of wet dream. What is it? they got money, power, status, influence - So what are "they" (lol) gonna do with that? & Y havent they done it yet?
GREAT QUESTION!!! I have heard that: the upper eschelons of the elite have SO MUCH money, that every second it will increase, and so on . So why? Well they then want POWER. It seems to be the way for these people who are in this trap.
This needs looking at so to never fall ever in it!
What is a mindset that seeks power/control SO much that they seem willing to sacrfice millions of species including humans and planet Earth's very biosphere for it?
To me it is really meaning they're utterly OUT OF control!
Not deeply realizing this they want more and more control?
@0ThouArtThat0 - pretty much agreed - but perhaps what is mentioned here in another comment -
"it is difficult to argue against the fact that the 'positive thinking' movement demonises anything and everything 'negative' "
is at least hinting at something that tends to be ignored - not only why should there be any out of harmony with nature, but why is the purpose of the development so hidden & hands-off - ie how did it get that way?
Why make a species that develop blindly with no obvious help
@0ThouArtThat0 - to be clear, what I mean by quoting another commenter on 'negativity' is that I have observed people putting themselves into the positions of teachers in a new agey way - but there is nothing 'new' about them, as they fail as much as existing systems to fit the important truths into their philosophies, and try to fob them off with crap like "the aliens / angels say it's that way" or "it's just your opinion and you need to change how you see it" and other mind-control rubbish.
@0ThouArtThat0 - & to be even clearer, when I'm saying about systems here being out of harmony with nature - I can't see how anyone can honestly claim what some new agers do - that plants and animals etc willingly allow themselves to be abused so that people can learn not to abuse them.
It's obvious that they do not enjoy being factory farmed or kept in captivity or cut-back or constantly interefered with - it's like resetting a computer constantly so it has to start processing all over again.
@0ThouArtThat0 - in that the ecosystem is integrated into the outer cosmos, eg as biodynamics shows - plant growth & flower shapes & planetary orbits are feedback systems that reflect one another. So a 5-petal flower is on a plant more in tune with Venus, which has a pentagram-shaped orbit as seen from Earth.
Every time that is reset - cut back etc - the plants have to start counting again all over, in order to regain their attunement. Every little disturbance is harming what this planet is.
see if "spiritualisation" is the goal, then basically all the floaters would be on the "right" track. It's very convienent to say: well the crownchakras, third eye, and throat are highly over active with many that dont maintain themselves, so lets just do that... Let's all live in our heads, and be only thoughts - and eventually break loose from all the material.
Ofcourse the opposite is true.. "Spirituality" is a difficult word for "Balance" - spirituality is about the FULL experience
(continu) Nature is the mirrorof our metal map. The world arround us, is what we really are, whatever we investigate, however we project, and what angle we use... We allways see ourselves in it, it is all about seeing pieces of ourselves. Whats wrong with ourselves, to simply deny parts of our being - our system/planet?? Just because it isnt "hip" to want to roar, or enjoy a riot?
Ignoring our nature, needs, out of shame, insecurity or whatever, makes it secret. Secret is dangerous - it grows
indeed, just never surpress yourself out of fear or insecurity - most things we do are natural believe it or not LoL... just have trust, not in god, but just in your nature ;-). Getting angry can give you the feeling you want to kill someone. Still if you allow the anger in a natural way, in 99.9% of the case you will just express your frust, and continu your day :-).
Fuck politically correctness... just be human, be YOU, and be as much YOU as possible. Dont B egoistic, just a little egocentric
I was fortunate to meet monica and do a workshop with her on this subject; it is difficult to argue against the fact that the 'positive thinking' movement demonises
anything and everything 'negative' and live in a coulorfull version of the polarized abrahamic god gibberers..ultimately, poositive thinking argues that war is positive, being dynamic, expansive and victorious, and peace, being by its very nature passive is negative and evil.
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niallobinghe 1 year ago
@niallobinghe If I had a pund for everytime I have mentioned Monica's name to people I would have quite a bit of money! She has been a great inspiration for me. Yes they dont understand that phonetic learnt words can become a life unto themself so you say---'positive' and you assume it is and can be independent of 'negative--another word. Not feeling the reality that what 'they' are is a dynamic wholistic process that ultimately cannot be cut up, and it TRYING to which causes much of the crap
zezt 1 year ago
aaaah zezt hello
thank u for reading, wonderful
one love :)
createrainbowz 2 years ago
I think the noosphere can't exist if it isn't an authentic interconnection, and creative unity with all beings. A dynamic, living ecosystem of minds. This can't exist in the terror, all-controlling state conspiracies that claim to be underway. I have more hope for humanity than that... Tho it is important we heed warnings, it's most important to see the light AND the darkness in all things as one dynamic process.
thepathlesspath 2 years ago
That passage you read is an inaccurate and deceptive interpretation of the New Age Movement. (I don't agree with all New Age thought.)
What is essentially true:
This is the 21st century. The Old Myths of the three Abrahamic religions do not function in the modern world.
We need NEW MYTHS = New Models and Metaphors.
People who are afraid of this change, and don't understand it, think it's the Illuminati Reptilian NWO taking over.
It's not. Things change, my friend, things change.
StevenErnest 3 years ago 3
Actually the book I read it from, author Monica Sjoo is FAR more in the know about the New Age and its duplicity than you appear to be, for what I have heard from you. All you really say is: 'no it isn't'...
Of COURSE the Abrahamic myth functions. of course it does. You are in denial, how can anyone debate with that closedmindedness?
zezt 3 years ago
He's trying to say Myths and Religion are role-models. Old role models don't fit new society. That is not denial my friend.
Godess vs. God? Something gone wrong there?
1hedge22 3 years ago
I think it depends on what old role model you mean.
Take blood sacrifice. that is VERY old one, and BOTh Goddess and God religion is supposed to have practised it, plus some polytheism, like eg., Mayan culture etc
Now, I sense that that was a mis-take , and that ORIGINAL role model was entheogenic ecstatic flowing release group emotion
zezt 3 years ago
Interesting series. By the way, has anyone else noticed how few of the YT population actually give a shit about these topics...? Just an observation ;)
SOCRATES012 4 years ago
haha,,,,great question. I am feeling it may be because some people may not be familiar. or it may freak them out a bit? Whats your views?
zezt 4 years ago
and btw. yesterday saw this young kid just talikin about this dumb film he'd seen, where he says he hates romantic crap but loves blowing up things---ie, and talkin crap...ahhhhhhh he had 250,000 views! of course quite a few could be paedos! Weird huh?
zezt 4 years ago
LoL -power to have power and to get more power is not satisfactional, just say then you dont know :-P..Looking at it as they support the horus cult,and jesuites are the most modern thing in that tradition...Then ask yourself this:Why did jesus want everyone to believe in god? What would happen if this worked? What IF the entire world likes to wear green socks and swallow everything you feed them? You SHOULD have a higher goal/purpose.If the world is my army of willing slaves, what would GOD do?
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
absolute power corrupts absulutely right?
The rulers have used myth for that purpose.
first invent an omnipresent 'God'. then rulers says he's closest to 'God' and then 'you all do what God and me say. OKAY? Or ELSE!'
zezt 4 years ago
haha yeah I can get that, but me, the honest heathen fool hanging upside down on a branchlooking at the world, DOESNT have a single CLUE what this desert GOD says.
I'm sorry, I honestly dont know what the zoroastrian/judean/islamic/christian ideal is. All I know is that hey want to have the biggest team. But I havent got a single clue why...
See if I had the biggest cock in town, with the smootest talk, I probably would have the most sex - Thats the kind of logic I can grasp.
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
lol they probably have better things to do... looking for hotbabes, newest videoclips, bloopers etc. - Most people just want o be entertained, and kept happy with sweets :-)
The "normal" crowd simply fills its life with consuming :-D, and the more they feed on what "the masses" feed on, the more popular they get :-D.
Ever tried downloading music that ISNT in the top 40 or the top 1000? lol - I do quite often, and then all of the sudden the internet has very less to offer :P
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
Yes i know OMG LOL!
I mean i can IsPOSE dig that for kids. bubble gum musak, but time to get over it past 10 haha
zezt 4 years ago
Some interesting stuff in here! Thanks.
HorridFroth 4 years ago
I have been saying all along that Gary and I are more similar than he lets on... but I should distinguish the ways we each interpret "progress." He sees it as an entirely intellectual enterprise, that one day we will have perfect knowledge of and total control over nature. Teilhard's Omega Point is not about intelligence, knowledge, or control. It is about love.
I don't see technology as inherently bad. The internet's value comes from the level of consciousness of those who use it.
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
I agree that we should not obsess over the light and neglect the dark. I think Teilhard's Christianity incorporates evolution and recognizes the the whole of nature, including the noosphere, rises and falls together. The mud and roots and rivers and animals are just as much a part of the the process of ascension toward omega. Traditional Christianity rejected the flesh... I think Teilhard saw it as divine.
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
Yes, but see. What that idea is suggwesting is that Nature has to 'ascend'. beCOME 'spiritualized'! rather, as Monica Sjoo emphasizes the prepatriarchal understanding is Nature IS sacred as-it-is
zezt 4 years ago
I see what you mean. I suppose the idea is that the human species is attempting to realize its spiritual nature. Nature itself is of course already sacred. One could argue that prior to our patriarchal culture, humans were already spiritual, but I think there were some rather barbaric practices associated even with Goddess worshipping peoples of the past. I think there is a developmental process taking place in the human species as we move from ethnocentric religion to planetary spirituality.
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
continue 2 haha. Ascension is an escapism, just like decention. going up, going down, changing your position with the BELIEVE it will change something. This means that there's a secret hope for change, change that some people dont dare to bring to themselves - they hope they will be forced into it. Just like christians wait for their savior...
The new age is allready happening for atleast 20 years. It is here, you can use it, it is real, all options are open.you can wait, for what?Eye-Opener?
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
Yeah, an escapism. A hope/dream. its like waiting for a 'saviour' trip only THIS time its technology that is the saviour!
But we have to be really aware of who is the enemy. who is the enemy through the generations that suppresses people. And how does technology RELATE to that process?!
zezt 4 years ago
Well we both know a bit about the how and what. Since people discovered the power and mysticism of numbers and letters, they also right away created an elite. The upperclass has allways had more credibility then the lower classes. Therefor now the term "knowledge=power"is at its peak right now. Modern technology has got its monopoly now, and because of that, technology has taken over the position from the gnostics ("those which know") We allways seek a leader, something that knows more, better
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
(cont.)We still worship waht we cannot understand, most basic wonders (storms, earthquakes, eclipses etc)All have been explained by science. Science is our advisor, The kind of advisor that hasnt failed yet. This science however is very limited, it only sets facts and analyses. It doesnt cover any consequences-you ask, we make exactly that.
In that way science has no conscious, no perspective, it is on demand service. it dont care bout interconnections,its loose from everything, whilstworld=not
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
WU YEAH!!!!
science has no conscience, no perspective. 'offical science' and its workers beavering away in little hutches not knowing what the other beaverers are doing!
Think of the Manhattan Project!?
That 'project' was kept VERY secret. And many of those working on it, many didn't know final outcome
This is how pyramid hierachy works.
zezt 4 years ago
continues)) So when we look close at the concept of 'noosphere' what do we see? well coiner of term was trained Jesuit.
If you look at other sources like 'Illuminati whistleblower' Leo Zagami, the Jesuits are very much part of Illuminati and NWO plans for globalization!
zezt 4 years ago
LoL seems like you are more into that stuff with knowing names etc.- I on the otherhand arent really the conspiracy type of guy etc.- But still in my life I also encountered some freemasoners. I and masons understand eachother quite well theoretically. the thing is they want to "take away that which divides", and I say dividedness has its purpose if it were only for rivalry.This desire to make everything as 1 gets me going. if yourevert that again to patriarch and matriarch - ma = 0 and pa=1
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
in math the only thing where O is used for, is as Origine!, it isnt a number there. Believe me that there are people in those kind of clubs that are very aware of what is, and they truly try to make a formula. They come from the cults of pythagoras, and walk in templar heritage. Probably most not by blood lol but atleast with ideology. They see life as a mathematical problem, and constantly adjust the formula, to make it work. Breakingthe code of life, in order to shape it as you please.
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
I cant help it, I am inquisitive and when I get a hook I carry on pulling. I am very interested in HOW the occultist mindset Freemasonic/Illuminati/Knights orders etc ...how they have coopted Goddess religious symbols in insidious malesupremacist way.
Only Monica Sjoo and few others do
zezt 4 years ago
continues)))Only Monica Sjoo and few others explore this malesupremaicist appropriation of Goddess symbolism, like the Serpent etc, and then subvert it for their own occulitst means of domination.
usually the scene is 'Christians' versus the 'satanists', the former not realizing their ideas stem from same patriarchal roots
zezt 4 years ago
cont2-Basically all this mess comes from again those same peeps from the desert that feel themselves the imported aliens with advanced knowledge.haha Maybe they even ARE - who knows? However it is inbetween the sperate divisions of archetypical humanoids, there is ATLEAST 1 polarity. The natural, and the mathematical. The mathematical system can influence the natural system, but the natural system cannot change the mathematical system. Maths, and the adoration of it, will eventually take us down
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
I believe that the elite have PUSHED a myth of themselves being the 'Fallen Angels' and this myth has been modified now as 'The Greys'!
this is complex LOL ;)))))
because as you know in magickal practice they can use imagination in various ways so its supposed. But does this make it real?
my view of the roots of the meaning of 'fallen angels' is that it means psychedelic mushrooms, and that it is an occultist mindset which has used them which coopts them for their own identity!
zezt 4 years ago
who are the greys? LoL - mushrooms abuse for gathering occult knowledge to fit into the mystic mind... hmm lolz you're having fun overthere arent you ? :-D
insights gathered by LOCAL herbs/plants shrooms is ok. I only think that each herb has got its own spirit, with its own cultural heritage. THIS is also the big danger of globalisation-Look at the bible,we will never understand that like someone from the region where its made.Just like people in africa wont understand the kalevala.
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
Well for example, David Icke 'used'? to talk about the elite bloodlines being hybrid with reptilian beings, like the 'Greys' (supposed ETs)
As for the 'fallen angels' being the mushrooms (must make a video about this!)~~A must read to get the gist is The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, by John M. Allegro. He is a philologist and translates 'Nephilim' (fallen angels/giants) to mean 'sacred mushrooms'
zezt 4 years ago
contin))So what I feel has happened is that a controlling mindset has used, and may still use psychedelics for the means of control rather than for sense of union with the WAY of Nature.
How why? intellectual self-aggrnadizment that at first was mistaken for superior intelligence. Not realizing the danger as the intellect becomes alienated from the Source
zezt 4 years ago
Oi Oi :-D - Well I just watched some illuminati clips on youtube, to get a better understanding about what IT is. That worked, only question is: Power they allready have, its clear they like to rule, but I miss PURPOSE. I can totally understand bush being a power horny prick- Eventho he looks dumb, the organisation he's part of, probably has got some kind of wet dream. What is it? they got money, power, status, influence - So what are "they" (lol) gonna do with that? & Y havent they done it yet?
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
GREAT QUESTION!!! I have heard that: the upper eschelons of the elite have SO MUCH money, that every second it will increase, and so on . So why? Well they then want POWER. It seems to be the way for these people who are in this trap.
This needs looking at so to never fall ever in it!
Why this need for so-called 'power'? wassit mean?
zezt 4 years ago
What is a mindset that seeks power/control SO much that they seem willing to sacrfice millions of species including humans and planet Earth's very biosphere for it?
To me it is really meaning they're utterly OUT OF control!
Not deeply realizing this they want more and more control?
zezt 4 years ago
@0ThouArtThat0 - pretty much agreed - but perhaps what is mentioned here in another comment -
"it is difficult to argue against the fact that the 'positive thinking' movement demonises anything and everything 'negative' "
is at least hinting at something that tends to be ignored - not only why should there be any out of harmony with nature, but why is the purpose of the development so hidden & hands-off - ie how did it get that way?
Why make a species that develop blindly with no obvious help
MannySteinerBleeky 10 months ago
@0ThouArtThat0 - to be clear, what I mean by quoting another commenter on 'negativity' is that I have observed people putting themselves into the positions of teachers in a new agey way - but there is nothing 'new' about them, as they fail as much as existing systems to fit the important truths into their philosophies, and try to fob them off with crap like "the aliens / angels say it's that way" or "it's just your opinion and you need to change how you see it" and other mind-control rubbish.
MannySteinerBleeky 10 months ago
@0ThouArtThat0 - & to be even clearer, when I'm saying about systems here being out of harmony with nature - I can't see how anyone can honestly claim what some new agers do - that plants and animals etc willingly allow themselves to be abused so that people can learn not to abuse them.
It's obvious that they do not enjoy being factory farmed or kept in captivity or cut-back or constantly interefered with - it's like resetting a computer constantly so it has to start processing all over again.
MannySteinerBleeky 10 months ago
@0ThouArtThat0 - in that the ecosystem is integrated into the outer cosmos, eg as biodynamics shows - plant growth & flower shapes & planetary orbits are feedback systems that reflect one another. So a 5-petal flower is on a plant more in tune with Venus, which has a pentagram-shaped orbit as seen from Earth.
Every time that is reset - cut back etc - the plants have to start counting again all over, in order to regain their attunement. Every little disturbance is harming what this planet is.
MannySteinerBleeky 10 months ago
well I question the 'love'
no offense man, cause i feel you. I am just trying to keep my critical faculties. Push the inquiry. I know ya can respect that.
zezt 4 years ago
none taken! I wouldn't be here if there was no critical debate going on!
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
see if "spiritualisation" is the goal, then basically all the floaters would be on the "right" track. It's very convienent to say: well the crownchakras, third eye, and throat are highly over active with many that dont maintain themselves, so lets just do that... Let's all live in our heads, and be only thoughts - and eventually break loose from all the material.
Ofcourse the opposite is true.. "Spirituality" is a difficult word for "Balance" - spirituality is about the FULL experience
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
(continu) Nature is the mirrorof our metal map. The world arround us, is what we really are, whatever we investigate, however we project, and what angle we use... We allways see ourselves in it, it is all about seeing pieces of ourselves. Whats wrong with ourselves, to simply deny parts of our being - our system/planet?? Just because it isnt "hip" to want to roar, or enjoy a riot?
Ignoring our nature, needs, out of shame, insecurity or whatever, makes it secret. Secret is dangerous - it grows
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
You've brought some important ideas into this, thank you. I especially agree with the danger of ignoring our nature...
0ThouArtThat0 4 years ago
indeed, just never surpress yourself out of fear or insecurity - most things we do are natural believe it or not LoL... just have trust, not in god, but just in your nature ;-). Getting angry can give you the feeling you want to kill someone. Still if you allow the anger in a natural way, in 99.9% of the case you will just express your frust, and continu your day :-).
Fuck politically correctness... just be human, be YOU, and be as much YOU as possible. Dont B egoistic, just a little egocentric
SjpielseWolf 4 years ago
Good video. You might like "In the dark places of wisdom" by Peter Kingsley. Take care.
Barklord 4 years ago
I will sure check it out, thanks ;)
zezt 4 years ago
That was very interesting.
GRIDKEEPER 4 years ago
Thanks man ;)
zezt 4 years ago