Antique Kraft RC Eleck Cycle. Record jump.

[pyromaniackid1]

I like how the 1980 camera has better quality then half the videos on youtube!

[fragtalize]

Whoah...keep up your good work dude

[sundown798]

Good Editing!

[dotster35]

Love this vid..thats 1 sweeet bike, 5**

[BuckleNutz]

That was fun thanks !

[ShadowxMaker]

Now that is what I call a real rc bike!

[Slaschow]

Nice good on Dave!

[remotecontrolaholic]

i had the exact same transmitter problem with my rc boat.

[MentalTeleprosy]

That was really good. Thanks for posting it.

[pjokes]

Very nice!

[robrcr8]

hahahah I have the same old Kraft/Kyosho elec-rider bike! mines a shelfqueen now, but I ran it a few times. This brings back the old days of 1980's R/C! mine was good for about 25mph?! Maybe some one will waste lots of cash and do a brushless.....

[dhonda200]

sweet vid!!! 5/5 how fast did that bike go?

[fariyasb]

I like that small chain.

[ken1ken2kenken]

I watched this movie with nostalgia. When I was young, I had the same one sold in Japan, named "Elec Rider." It was an epoch-making RC ! So cool !

[molly6971]

ignore that comment nightflyer,member of the family abuseing my hospitality on my computer,im a big fan of rc stuff,i think always having a bit of a boy inside you makes life more fun.keep it up

[molly6971]

good video dave but its pretty obvious that in the "on bike cam" your holding and pushing the bike all the way through that clip..the big giveaway is the bike is doing 2 mph(ever thought of asking spielberg for a special fx job ?)

[SPOOKSTR]

Cool vid Nightflyyer...love the ''boink'' sound effects !!!

Where can i get myself one of those bikes? I particularly like your one, the red beast, it looks awesome !!! I road race historic bikes myself and know a lot of folk who would also like one.

Keep up the good work.

[ConsumerFanatics]

NightFlyyer, awesome video man. I've seen your videos here and there but this is my favorite one. Being an ex-moto racer, RC enthusiast and owner of a couple RC bikes, I really enjoyed this one.

[Del360T]

What a beautiful bike. It´s pretty much priceless, when you think about it.

[rheniformer]

Hi Dave, It's so natural to steer left to go right that most people never think about it. The physics is the same regardless of size. Those who've taken or been involved in motorcycle training call it counter steer. I rode over 30 years before it was pointed out what I had been doing all along. My post is in your support for the benefit of hecklers. Great vid, thanks. It's cool that as a veteran RC'r you've taken the time to maintain & display a great and rare example of the heritage of RC.

[bakugoneman123]

Cool Bike Dave! No high tech electronics there, real fly by the seat of your pants stuff! Good video work too.

[alexbuneapetru]

just beautiful stuf my friend

[oflamemakero]

woah nice video

[NightFlyyer]

Thank you.

[aserta]

that is the coolest ever. and i keep my statement even the never models, it's pure ingenuity

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly.

[mdmarks2258]

haha just ignore BigMilan, you always get one TWAT thinking they know it all, besides you really gonna take the word of a shit Australian wannabe DJ, i think not, lol

keep up the quality vids dude/.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Your a good man. I appreciate your comments.

[Morytana]

Love Iowa! SLipknot FTW

[BigMilan]

also i don't want u to think i'm just trying to annoy you. i love the fact that u made this. it's incredible, but i'm just disagreening that you MUST turn the way this rc bike turn on a real bike.

you CAN, but don't have to. the main ingredient is leaning in the turning direction, by whatever method

[venturagixxer]

BigMIlan he is right. Ive been riding motorcycles for 13 years and that is how it works, Look up Keith Codes No B.S. bike.

[BigMilan]

u just lean to the direction u want to turn first and then steer in that same direction. u don't have to actually turn the opposite way. you own body weight pulls the bike down

[NightFlyyer]

Not true. Ask and Physics professor or watch the Discovery Channel, where they had a special on this. Initially, you make a right turn, no matter how slight, even if you cant feel it, knocking off the center of gravity, and they you fall towards the turn.

[BigMilan]

that's all good and everything, but i don't need a physic professor to tell me that leaning to one side will make me fall to that side.

you CAN turn the opposite way 1st, but it's not necessary. depends on how aggressive u want to be. it's about weight distribution ,and u can do it a number of ways. most of the time you'd use most of them at once. but to say that "to turn right you must 1st turn left" is too rigid

[NightFlyyer]

It is necessary, always. Dont know why your arguing simple science.

If I take my big old Gold Wing out on the freeway and drive it perfectly straight at 75 mph and push the handle bars to the right, I am going left!

Sorry you cant see that. I hope you click the link in the description box where is a link to a professor at Berkley's steering teachings.

Make sure you read the first line. Your not arguing with me, your arguing basic physics. I helped develop this bike it wont work your way.

[BigMilan]

it certainly will not work my way because it's not a real man that can lean to one side of the bike.

tell me if this doesn't make sense:

1 if u lean to the left, WITHOUT turning the handlebars, you WILL fall over to the left?

2. after you start falling towards the left (AFTER) if you were to turn your handlebars to the left (ONLY) just the right amount you will stop falling and start turning to the left.

[BigMilan]

note i never said that your way doesn't work. i just don't understand why you're so insistent that it's impossible to turn without turning in the opposite direction 1st.

if this goes on i'll tape a camera to at the handlebars as i ride a bike and film this lol

but i agree entirely that an RC bike will not work this way - the little guy on it is purely symbolic - he can't lean.

[NightFlyyer]

I'm not. It is taught in school and college and I was involved with it, and agree with the Physics professors. I'm am not arguing it, I am agreeing with them. You are arguing with them, not me. Go tell it to the professor in the link, cause I cant make you understand that you don't steer when your stopped. Your wasting my time.

[rhinomobile]

loved it. blast from the past.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly.

[NightFlyyer]

Haha. You found it. Thanks.

[dreamboat519]

terrible, hope you dont av a wife, poor woman if u do!

[NightFlyyer]

LOL. Lets see you do one better.

[piwright42]

It steers like a full sized motorcycle, sweet! It's true though at low speed you steer the way you think you would, by pointing the bars in the direction you wanna go. Somewhere around 9-12mph things get counter-intuitive and the opposite becomes true. I did it on my FZR600. Around 10mph when I intentionally pushed the bars right, the bike leaned to the left and tried to go that way! Seems like the less you have to balance the bike the more you counter-steer. Is it because of gyroscopic effect?

[NightFlyyer]

In reality, though it is hard to detect at slow speed, it is always the same physics. Check with any science or physics teacher. Also it was totally explained the same way on the discovery channel just this way.

Not gyroscopic at all. It is center of gravity based physics.

[piwright42]

Thanks for the response. I believe you though I do not recall leaning at very low speed especially after I switched from the stock Yamaha rims to Performance Machine Chicanes. Now that I think about it you are right. I might have started to point in the direction that I wanted to steer and a moment alter the bike would lean and I would straighten out the bars as it did so.

[beverke7]

bike still looks great, cool jump and sound effects Dave

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks very much. I appreciate it.

[Kanedx]

beautiful bike!!!!!.... a jewel!!!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. An antique for sure.

[jeffreyren75]

might have been cool if the trucks were the same scale as the bike

[NightFlyyer]

Yep, but all I had. Since the trucks are antiques I decided to use them. So I guess it is not cool.

[gravero51]

I have one in mint condition with a legal radio. I have never tried to run it for lack of a surface to run it on. I've had the bike for close to 20 years. Your video has inspired me to drag it out and give it a try.

[NightFlyyer]

WOW, really. Fabulous. Wish I had a brand new one. Well head out to the Sears Parking lot and take the camera. You might want to make some side guards like I did and have fun.

[sirnicholson]

NIGHT FLYER what you say is true in extreme conditions such as laying into a corner.around town if you want to turn left you just turn left.your correct in extreme riding conditions

[NightFlyyer]

Not true. It is always the same. Simple Physics and you can ask any science or physics teacher or look at how things work (.) com

You always turn right, no matter how slightly to go left and at any speed. You just may not feel it.

[EmplexProductions]

small jump

[NightFlyyer]

Yep, small motorcycle. It was also the first ever. Anything higher, and it crashes. Gotta start somewhere, ya know.

[bestamerica]

i had one R/C kraft is very old R/C system but i don' t know it work or not

[NightFlyyer]

It will work, but the frequencies are no longer legal.

[bumblepuss]

Okay, so I could be talking shit.

[NightFlyyer]

You are. There was a whole explanation of this recently on the Discovery channel, How things work. Ask any science teacher, as it is simple physics. You can try it yourself. Hit the freeway and do 60, turn the bars to the left and see which way you go.

[bumblepuss]

That bit about the steering is bollocks. I think you are refering to counter steer, where a rider stees in the opposite direction to which he is turning/leaning but at no point is the front wheel actually turned away from the direction of travel.

[NightFlyyer]

Dont insult my intelligence.

[TheAmericanUhate]

I ride bikes (real ones) and have a nitro rc street bike. I have to agree with bumblepuss. Also, that is not the record rc bike jump. Not even close. There is kids with toy rc bikes going bigger. I just waited over 9 minutes of my life to see a 12 inch jump. err

[NightFlyyersShadow]

Good for you. Shame on you too. This was the first RC motorcycle and at the time a record, that no one has broken with this size ramp and bike size over 30 years ago. I made sure you don't have to waste anymore of your precious time.

[ConsumerFanatics]

"I ride bikes (real ones)"

Good for you. A lot of people ride real bikes. And most of those people don't know how to ride them.

[ConsumerFanatics]

"but at no point is the front wheel actually turned away from the direction of travel."

Sorry, wrong. Have you ever seen flat tracking? End of discussion.

[Bilek33]

Cool... Nothing like old school R/C. That radio is an antique for sure. I once worked for a guy named Dave Shadel (Nelson Engines) in a hobby shop in Gardnerville NV. I believe he worked for Kraft back in the day as well, did you know him? I also love your Byron Pitts video, I didn't know you could run that purr power system with anything other than a quadra engine. I was lucky enough to see "Striking Back" the byron originals airshow in Ida Grove back in 1987. It was totally bitchin!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. I did know Dave. Yes the Byro drive belt system was the first power unit for the Pitts. Quadras came out about 2 years later. I also was at the "Striking back" airshow in Ida Grove, and I think it was the same year. Flying Superman, candy drops, etc. It was a fabulous show, for sure. I may put some of my stuff I have on it up on a video one day. Thanks again for your comments.

[kenstarh01]

Dave ur kool very nice vid !

[NightFlyyer]

Thank you much.

[bentley8787]

that thing has got to be tough to handle! well done

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. It isn't too bad, once you get the hang of it.

[CogCommander3]

dude im not a friekn kid

[CogCommander3]

lmao i can make it go around 3-6 ft lmao

my friends got it on camera

[NightFlyyer]

With the same beer can height and the same motorcycle? Great. Let's see it.

[CogCommander3]

no way that motorcycle sucks mine is gas

and you have to go to ebaums to see the pic

[NightFlyyer]

Maybe it does, but 25 years ago it was the first of it's kind in the world!

You're talking new stuff with yours and its a shame you have forgotten those of us who pioneered them. Good luck.

[CogCommander3]

oh haha its not a shame i hate rc motorcycles

id rather drive my baja

[gunlver]

Dude show some repsect or go some place else ya little punk Dave has you beat in all areas of R/C. Your just a little punk that needs to learn his place and some manners! And the way you are acting you are just alittle punk kid. You ceratainly sound like one 'well mines better than yours' blah blah blah! Just go away! your bothering the adults!

[CogCommander3]

dude why you saying this now lolz its been a month

[P3313]

No offense but that was weak sauce.  It barely got off the ground

[NightFlyyer]

At the time, it was the only RC motorcycle available, so that "barely got off the ground" was the record, according to the AMA.

[rcastaneda]

whats the american medical association got to do with anything?!!

=)

[NightFlyyer]

Duh! The AMA stands for The Academy of Model Aeronautics. They deal with all Models. And you asked what the American Medical Association has to do with anything. Well they have medical stuff to do.

[gunlver]

Dave your the best! I learn something everytime I watch one of your videos. It's to bad spoiled little kids have to run there mouths when the should keep them shut and learn. Great Video and awesome bike I had no idea that they even had one of those back then. And to be a part of that must feel great!

[NightFlyyer]

Your too kind. Thanks for your comments.

[1929JD]

Interesting video! I had a Kraft set 2 channel "Brick" back in the seventies. Used it for years in my olympic 2 sailplane. Then it went into a few cars and some powered planes. All I know is that the list was long. I thought Kraft produced the finest RC equipment of all.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. I always like Kraft equipment too. It's just that everything got copied overseas and there was no way we could compete. My Signature series radio cost $999 just for the transmitter and the Single stick was even more in those days. It was hard to make them for $200. The brick was great too. Your bringing back memories. Thanks again.

[raxgto]

this video must be in the discovery channel, lol!!!

it´s an amazing machine!!!

[NightFlyyer]

Haha. Thanks kindly.

[mail1993]

thas so fuki coll me you the 60 yiuerrs old and you are the bes nitflyer

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks for that, I appreciate that.

[crookedtool]

I understand what you mean by 2-wheel vehicles needing to turn in the opposite direction first. But would it be more accurate to say that you lean in the direction of the turn in order to initiate the turn (a human on 2 wheels)? Of course since your r/c rider doesn't lean, you would have to initiate it by steering.

[NightFlyyer]

You can test it on a bicycle. You cannot lean in the direction of the turn to start your turn. It still turns opposite before the lean will do any good. In the case of my cycle there is no steering at all. It simply moves the front wheel left and right side to side, if you watch closely. That changes the center of gravity to the opposite side of the bike and then the front wheel follows it.

[crookedtool]

What about when I am biking hands-free?

[NightFlyyer]

It doens't matter. You can take this up with any Physics teacher and verify what I am saying. You shift the center of the gravity first, (you dont even notice it, it is so slight). If you turn the wheel to the right, you will go left. You are basically doing that with your leaning, but it is less than a degree of turn barely noticeable.

[hellodonttalk]

i try to have fun with r/c's i got about 10 laying in over 10 peices atm 3 mini-ts or 1 working mini-t one with a wheel missing and servo in half and another thats simply a frame i have scrapped for my other one that i use and i got rc airplain.. hit a semi on the highway.. =S + a few micros fun to mess around with had a r/c cycle from tyko fromw hen i was 7 it got lost.. lol nice video 5 stars

[NightFlyyer]

Wow. Thanks for the comments. How come it got lost?

[NMdesertracer]

Nice video!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks very much.

[eno315]

Mr. Herbert,

Have you ever used a kyosho motorcycle? Ever modify one?

Also, is the Graupner m/c based on the Kraft elek-cycle? I'm lovin' that chain drive.

Eno

[NightFlyyer]

Kyosho was making these for Kraft as I remember. I never modified it. All were somewhat based off this design as this was the first commercially available RC cycle.

[gatorgarfish]

Impressive ! Thanks for the video. What a great hobby-grade rc vehicle there, and obviously a skilled operator too. That was fun to watch.

(OMG, if the little guy had come up a little short and hit those blades !?)

[NightFlyyer]

Ha ha! Thanks for the kind comments...

[kerola]

Still are, and always will be =D

[kerola]

Mr.Herbert you must of been a hip and groovy man back in 1979

[NightFlyyer]

I like to think I still am... ha ha ha.  Old, but hip! LOL.

[quay0007]

You are a bit corny - but damn interesting! Great passion you have. Keep up the great work!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Ya gotta have fun in life, ya know?

[daxfx]

you are the same that sell on ebay? I have see you in a Airhog stormlauncher comparasion.... great job I wish I can be like you ... live from RC

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks, but I do not sell. All I do is buy, and make my reports. No one can say I am biased to one company. If it is bad, I will say so. See my vid, (worst helicopter we ever tested) to see the other side. Ha ha. Thanks. I DO liver RC though!

[daxfx]

well your voice and you look similar on a video from a seller on ebay.. you just compare both storm launcher. and tell mini is better. also you do a test in water and mini stormlauncher does not runs on water... Correct?

[NightFlyyer]

Mini will not work on water and you will ruin it trying. I just bought 3 new Big stormlaunchers for $15 each from Walmart, as they are blowing them out. That is my favorite. Somebody on ebay may be using my link to advertise, I do not know.

[GargantulaKon]

You are funny. Great video!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks a lot.

[Bothanstreet]

i got 1 question and comment,

are you a teacher?

and thats amazing

[Bothanstreet]

(im a pro at rc planes, i have a boeing 777 retractible gear and lights and fully operated ailrons and elevators)

[NightFlyyer]

Great. Nice plane. What engines?

[NightFlyyer]

Yes. Thank you.

[mangie222]

when he said 2trucks and a helli i taut he meant real 1's so i tout wtf!!

[NightFlyyer]

SO..? It's all in fun... Sorry to disappoint you.

[mangie222]

i didnt mean it like that

[slowmaro87]

i love your videos this ones got me thinken about gettin a bike to try out what would b a good out door electric heli without breakin the wallet too too bad?

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Well the heli is the question of the day. If you know nothing, get a simulator first. There are very few people who learn to fly helis. They are a lot more difficult than any computer game, and it simply takes practice and lots of money for parts. I recommend the Blade CX2. See my video on it.

[rooney62danny]

Dude thats totally awesome!! wish i had one, but iv got the real thing , 1990 honda xr 250 MAN IT FLIES, just had it tuned aswell ! =D

keep up the great work!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. You have a great machine!

[aldenso]

lol, You have quite the imagination. I can see myself doing the same things when I get a little older.

Keep it up.

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. Yep, us old guys do unusual things. I will keep it up. Watch for my next video, where I do a product review on the worst helicopter I ever got.

[coaxialgyro]

SUBSCRIBED !! , and of course, I'm going to get a 80's bike also !.

[NightFlyyer]

Great. Thank you. I want to see some vids of it.

[moolikeacow2]

Awesome dude.

[NightFlyyer]

Thank you sir.

[ixlucina]

fun i love ur videos and um your missing a "Y" in Flyyer at the end of the video

[NightFlyyer]

Thank you kindly. Well, I am Night Flyer ( 1 Y) on RC groups dot com, and I guess I just left it at that. You are very observant.

[gabydewilde]

haha, I feel like I just "lost" 10 years worth of aging. That's some construction to survive all those years, I kind of expected the plastics to go brittle.

Pointless adult worrying. lol

[40150]

HAHAHa... Great vidoes Dave. I like how they made the cycle function like a real bike! Using its principal to turn and also using a chian drivin wheel. Very nice video. Is it an old bike? Well, Nice to c ur videos Dave

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks kindly. Well it was  MFG in 1979, so may be older than you?

[joehandsome99]

Nice video Dave. I see your taking to the new video editing software like a champ. Any chance of going back to windows movie maker now?

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks a lot. Well, I am still experimenting, so never say never.

[Partok81]

This'll be a classic video Dave. Loved the semi-cheesy sound effects, it made it more funny. Nice rugged Kraft radio too. I remember one that had a single stick with a rotary knob on the end for another channel. And the old Kraft Jet Ranger. Those were the days!

[NightFlyyer]

That is kind of you to say. Glad you liked it.

[plezurhounds]

Fun. Thanks.

[cooldisel]

nice jump :)

the transmitter looks cool i've seen an old futuba transmitter on Ebay and i really enjoy looking at the older version of the transmitters:)

do u hv any collection of old transmitters ?

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks Kindly.

If you like old RC radios, you should like another video I made, as I have a lot of radios.

Search for my video called "Antique RC radios-Their Evolution" to see them.

Hope you enjoy that.

[cooldisel]

Thanx alot mate :)

[wichotez]

How many feet Mr. Dave?

[NightFlyyer]

4 feet 5 inches this time, 4 feet 2 inches in 1979. I had a tail wind this time.

[dave2552000]

More big fun! :-) I like the magnet transition.

Does "Mr. Herbert" have an old single channel pulse wiggler plane hanging in the museum?

[NightFlyyer]

How'd you know? ha ha.

[bearinstincts]

Hey Big Brother--this video is one of your finest! Love the sound effects. You belong in hollywood! Keep 'em comin'...Little Sis

[NightFlyyer]

Well, thank you very kindly Sis. Glad you enjoyed it.

[EyeLouise]

Totally awesome video. I want an RC motorcycle now too! You sure seem to like yours. 5 Stars!!

[fspilot92]

Cool video. It looked like the bike was going slower with the onboard cam. Nice jump!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. I slowed the video down, but that wasnt the record jump. The camera caused it to pull to the left a lot.

[Winston51249]

Hahaha! What a riot, Dave! What in the heck will Mr. Herbert come up with next?!?!

[NightFlyyer]

Thanks. You may be surprised.