Well how about you learn a bit about cars, you can't turn the turbo on and off using a button! It's a sports button to put the car in sports mode, if you turned the turbo off in a diesel it would barely move!
This 1.9 liter engine is very nice, but without the turbo, it would be a waste of a car.
The only problem that i can point out to my (this) car, is the huge turbo lag. If you enter a corner too fast with understeer, and you drop the revs to less than about 1800 rpm, it takes ages for it to recover.
But when it does, in beast mode (sport button pressed for 4/5 seconds), it gives you a nice kick in the back!
:)
Too bad i couldnt install this 888 kit in my car...
And at the line... and I've dropped the hammer..... (and nothing is happening).
I do like Fifth Gear but this test was stupid. You just don't get a Diesel unless you are settled into a 'sensible' life that revolves around fuel economy. To buy new they are more expensive than petrol and after 3 years, your lovely car will just sound like an old Transit van.
Plus you have to do £1000's of work and huge turbos to get a diesel to match an unmodded petrol.
Hmmm... true, i have this 1.9 diesel version for economic reasons, but when i thought about upgrading my car with electronic and exhaust upgrades, i came to the conclusion it would be a waste of money.
As i see it, want a fast sports car, buy a petrol one in the first place!
Only thing ive done was put brembo brakes and Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric tyres.
Here in Portugal, people are retarded and there are loads of "oil tankers" juiced up on the road. Its fucking pathetic!
@larssonk22 He's not turning the turbo on and off you complete retard. He turns the sports setting on by the look of it and then mid-race either turns it off or holds it down to turn the traction control off.
@Shammy214 Hey cocksucker, how about a little respect I asked a reasonable question, I did not know there was traction control when you held the sports button down.
To tell u the truth, the Sport button has 2 modes.
If u press it normally, it changes the electronics, throtle response is much faster and sharpens steering.
But if you press it for more than 4 or 5 seconds, it turns all driver aids of (traction and stability control), i already spun it. :)
But im not so sure about the ABS, because in this mode i already locked up the tyres in braking. Also, my car has already turned safe mode on while driving to its corner limits in the highway.
As near as makes no difference its a 2.0 TUNED diesel versus a 2.0 stock petrol and its neck and neck. Give the petrol a remap and new tyres etc and have a rematch!
I was replying to somebody else who was speaking about how great the diesel car is and how easy you could destroy a petrol car with a diesel engine, by modyfing it.
Remaps on diesels do work but the trouble is during a hot summers day they are not getting the amount of air required for the remap. The correct amount of air needs to be ingested inorder for a remap to work properly. At night the cool air is dense and compressed so you get more of the correct amount of power. My Seat 1.9 TDI will put out 330-340 nms during a hot day and it shoots right up to 380 when the air is cold. You need to reduce the heat of the induction if you want more power.
@BallisticEVA01 Sillicone/cold feed turbo hoses and intercooler pipework will do the trick and should increase the power. New intercooler is better but then it also shoves your torque curve right up and eliminates the original low-down grunt. Changing your Pipework over to a cold air feed won't ruin the original grunt and It'll cost you less then installing a new intercooler. Do the pipes first and see if the pipes make a difference!
I also like my 1.9 Astra, but... im a little bit bored with that engine. Well, i bought it for diesel economic issues, so i cant really complain much. For daily basis, it does well the job.
By the way, have you got any issues with the alternator? I already had with mine and so did a friend of mine, but he already had to change it twice!!!
i had to many astra h one of them 1.7cdti then i had 1.6 then i had 1.9 cdti and now i have 1.8 SRi and that really fast a want to buy also vxr because its 2.0 turbo love astra
@moschops21 I totally agree with you. I used to drive the 1.8 SRi VVT's at enterprise rent a car, I almost lived in them. I got to test them on all types of scenario's. Funny thing is they actually feel faster then what my own remapped Seat Leon FR feels like. Its a false perception of fast acceleration with petrols. I was in a red 1.8 sporthatch SRI with the S switched on and tried to keep up with a europcar Sport hatch CDTI 150. 4,000-6,000 hard revs of sheer 1.8 brutality never touched it.
I also own a 1.9 CDTi 150 hp Astra, and im happy with it, but doesnt the turbo lag sometimes annoys you?
In a few ocasions, when driving fast with Sport button on, and overspeed into a corner with understeer, it takes about 1.5 to 3 seconds to the turbo kick again. This only occours in certain rpms. Have you ever experienced this turbo lag?
@bebo5566 I almost lived in the 1.8 SRi VVT's when I used to work as a driver for enterprise rent a car. Don't wrong me, they feel really fast out of 1st/2nd gear only because you are topping the revs but its a completely false sence of speed, an optical illusion of acceleration trickery. Most 9.0 second petrols all feel like it. Keep up with a Tiguan TDI, Insignia CDTI or a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI in one and watch how they will leave you disappearing no matter how hard you try. CDTi 150's are faster.
It's a natural by product of a tuned diesel as it's putting more fuel through the engine. Tuning boxes are even worse for this and as a result it causes more damage to the engine.
...or you can buy a stock opel/vauxhall astra gtc with z19dth engine and get the eds motorsport phase2 210hp 430nm remap with bigger intercooler , like i did.
The diesel should feel a hell of a lot quicker with 450nm of torque compared to the 350nm of the vxr, bearing in mind that a 2009 ferrari 458 italia has 450nm of torque, but with 562bhp and a 0-60 of 3.4 seconds.
just buy a normal 150bhp astra diesel and chip it up, its as quick as a 888 but at a fraction of the cost
I've been reading the comments from people who haven't ever driven one of these 888's i'm one of the lucky 100 people how owns one of these if you want to know the truth about this vid and how it really went ask the guys at Thurlby's, put it this way it didn't go well for the VXR.
Watch the vid carefully when they do the lap, one minute it's raining next it's bone dry.
Im sorry, i also own a 150 1.9 Astra, but i think that, to compare both cars fair and square, you would have to souped up the VXR also.
We are talking about a modified car against a stock one! Then... the VXR also tunned would destroy our car.
Here in Portugal, there is a guy with a OPC (VXR) tuned version with 450 hp and i doubt our car tuned would even get close. I saw it running in the Estoril track and it was a beast!!!
I'm really loving all the sour grapes petrol fanboy comments on here. From what I could see in this vid the petrol turbo had a full 40-or-so BHP over the diesel engine, as well as being lighter and from the off there was nothing in it.
I have a Ford Focus ST170 and I am chopping it in for an 06 plate Astra CDTi 150 this, not only because it's going to save me a bomb in tax, insurance and running costs but against my Focus it is just as quick despite being down on 20bhp. Cont...
@Lolf88 Half of the ST170's made by Ford never produced the real 170 horsepower. Ford threw in a VVT inlet cam and had the cylinders modified by cosworth on the old 128bhp 2.0 litre Zetec/Duratec engine. Ford being Ford never road tested it or dyno tested the car they just 'threw it in' at a wild guess and mapped the engine management to put out 170. Only the outcome of it wasn't quite what they'd hoped for...
In the real world, the turbo diesel will always be quicker than the petrol, the fact that it will probably do about 20 miles more to the gallon is nice as well.
but then, with a change of exahust, air intake, intercooler and remap the petrol astra will see around 300bhp. The diesel is already the max that it can be.
I agree that like for like, the diesel will win in the real world, but the petrol can be taken so much further!
@wordreet mechanic in Max Power mag? come on, Redline makes Max Power look like a bridal mag!! have you seen the latest Max Power mag? a guy spent £35 grand on a 1.4 fiesta!! he didnt do nothing to the engine, just exterior work. whats the point? why not buy a nice M3? So trust a bird from a car beautician mag? lol!
@767nutter Did you read the rest of my post or just kneejerk to the words Max Power? She worked there 16 years ago. I read neither of those mags, nor do I read bridal mags. ;-) Journalists move on from stuff, just like anyone pursuing a career. Did you bother to read where I put Auto Express or What Car or Performance Car? And just to take any argument to schoolboy level, she knows more than you about cars and is a better driver, than you. She could teach you to drive better, no question.
@wordreet 1) where did i state i was a brill driver/better than her/ know more about cars than her?? Please enlighten me 2) your post didnt state she worked for max power 16 years ago, how was i to know that? 3) follows on from 2, because i dont follow her life progress. 4) yes i read all your post, but i was just pointing out how max power concentrates more on the bodywork of cars. read my post properly before contradicting yourself !
@767nutter You have the whole internet available to you, you could do a little research before you defame a celebrity's carachter, and I never said that you stated you were any kind of driver, I actually said that I was entering the schoolboy style argument level. So that you'd know i was being deliberately childish. I don't follow anyone's career, but I did do some checking before I stepped up to defend VBH from a collegiate ingoramus.
@wordreet jesus do you take everything seriously? i didnt say she was thick, or didnt know what she was on about, i was more attacking max power mag than her! couldnt you work that out? and taking this to schoolboy level myself, a bit of irony in calling someone an ignoramus when they cant spell it themselves! :-D
Im sure they dont like you, as you still get in the way. Unless the ST you talk about is a Fiesta, the you mean you can just about keep up with a Corsa VXR, if your talking Focus/Astra (and the 3 MPS) then you arent as quick, carry on dreaming.
When you're pushing 180bhp at the wheels in my car that's now grabbing 290ft lb a torque then yes, I can easily stay with VXR's, FOCUS ST's and 3 MPS'
There's no need for dreamin sunshine! The lag in the VXR is ridiculous! 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear I'm gonna see them in the mirrors!
Thats the thing, your not pushing 180bhp @ the wheels with your quoted "vRS remapped Extra 50bhp lovely" if your running 290lb.ft of torque, you have a generic phase 1 remap, on a PD130 with a KKK turbo unit, which will never produce your claim of 180bhp @ the wheels. More like at the fly, and even then only just with the BLT engine. You would need to run closer to 2BAR on that turbo (with lots of smoke) to get 180bhp @ wheels, and then your chocolate turbo melts.. cont...
cont .... You cant stay with VXR Astra's easily unless the VXR isnt being driven to use its power, same with ST and MPS. I can dream all day long, but I know. Yes 2nd/3rd & 4th are strong points in your TDi, but even with a run up, in gear, up a hill in 3rd the VXR Astra is faster.
Ok I will explain... Remap, High-Flow Cat and Downpipe with Connecting pipe and PD160 Air filter. nothing has been tinkered with in terms of Turbo.
If you are thinking I have had an AMD remap and stupid cat-back from Milltek or something then it would be producing about 180 at the fly... I admit though, as soon as I get into 5th and 6th around the 90mph mark I'm starting to run out of steam, but then I've shortened the gear ratios to keep the torque band at 2100rpm
LOL. Explain how a turbo not able to your 'claimed' 180 at the wheels is please? No amount of remap, High Flow Cat (why when a de-cat would be better as even less 'flow') downpipe with connecting pipe and PD160 Air filter would do this? A PD160 (only made for the Seat Ibiza Cupra 6L) has the same air filter as the PD130 FR and/or vRS. I think you mean thePD160 'pipe' which goes into the Air filter housing... Whatreg is your vRS? Sure your not dreaming you have a pre-05 plate with 05plate gears?
@SammyJ21 i have my audi a3 s line 2.0tdi remaped but was just destroying all the engine componets. clutch/dual mass flywheel, water pump, head gasket.... water leaks.. oil leaks... have you had any problems??
Dude... thats why my 1.9 Astra is Stock... a friend of mine upgraded it to 310 hp and blew the engine! A playing around that cost him about 12.000 euros!
150 hp is enough to play.
Only thing i upgraded in my car was a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 assymetric tyres and Brembo brakes.
I hope you got your car fixed! That Audi is a nice car! By the way, is it the 2.0 140 hp or the 170 hp version?
@BallisticEVA01 mine was the 140bhp version fwd, after remap it was 170-175bhp bout 290-300ft lbs of torque.. the mid range pull was insane, gave butterflys on heavy acceleration, EVERYTHING went on it just about, it was such a nice car too... 140bhp was good enough but i couldnt help but try take it to its limit.. wish i left it standard..
Yeah, i do understand the surge of need to have more horsepower, my father had a Audi A4 estate with the same 2.0 140hp and whenever my dad played around with me and my Astra, his Audi very often stayed standing talking alone... the 1.9 Audi diesel engine was a little bit more lively, dont you think?
Still... great engine, i already made more than 1100 kms with one full tank, granny style driving!
Did you fixed your A3? Its a great car, confortable and very good looking.
@BallisticEVA01 i drove a 1.9tdi audi a3, felt it was too slow really, thats why i went for the 2.0tdi, on a 2006 plate (06) mine was the s line model too, half leather ect.. it had 120,000 miles on clock when i had to get rid of it, the head gasket went in the end, and we wasnt sure if the head was cracked, next the turbo would of blew.. so talking a few grand to keep, maybe get another one in the future. ive driven the 150 astra sri, was a absolute animal in sport mode i felt, loved it!
Whats the point in accelerating from 50 on 4th gear? For diesel, 4th gear is optimal for accelerating from that speed, while for petrol, the revs are too low. She could easily kick in 3rd gear and show the diesel car her back in seconds.
Also, the race is hollywood. VXR would be faster in first corner and never give diesel version a chance.
No, if the diesel was in third it would blow up. Imagine it: 50 mph, 4th gear: both engines have about 3.600 rpm and the diesel has more power, but if the petrol car siwtches to 3rd gear, it will do about 5.000 rpm and it will easily outperform the diesel. If the diesel switches to 3rd gear, it will also have about 5.000 rpm, but diesel engines dont work in such a high revs, so it woudlnt accelerate at all.
Its not the torque that pushes the car forward, the power does.
stfu stop going on about gearing at the end of the day the vxr isnt that much faster around a track, and the diesel will do a good 40mpg all day, so fuck off you czech bastard i bet you dont even have a car fucking weasel -.-
Lol, you say a bullshit, I correct you, you are out of arguments and you start with "stfu", "czech bastard", etc. etc. You really must be an idiot, dude. Heh, I just checked your profile, b/c I thought you will be like 13 yo, but if you are really 27, its serious with you, mate. Get a life asap. Btw. I believe I have more cars than you have shoes, jackass.
you have more cars than i have shoes i doubt that abd even if you have lots of cars what does that acheive fuck all if youve so many cars where are the videos no where because your a little fucking 14 year old foreigner that thinks because your behind a pc screen you can talk big the only cars you know about are the ones you read about dont say shit unles youve been in the car and mate i do have a life im not the one that replied to the comment in less than an hour you must be sat at pc non stop
I dont work in factory, dude, when someone replies on my comments it sends me an e-mail, so I can reply right away. But I must politely end this conversation, I expected arguments, but you offered only insultations, so I won´t waste my time with you anymore. Discussion over.
As much as your argument is right in the sense of why do a 4th gear rolling start, 50mph in 3rd would be fine in my diesel? Whoever the idiot is scott person, your a fool.
Its still 3k cheaper, and plus I'd rather have a deisel that can smack sum pretty respectable cars and at the end of it go ha! u got wiped by a deisel.
and what do u mean "turd polishings"
the vxr has the same types of mods.
so go tweak ur nips in the shower and while ur at it you can laugh at ur insignificant shrub.
Its a vauxhall Astra with bolt ons. you know, i know it, don't be utterlly ridiculous claiming this is a different car. Its even called an Astra.
They buy an Astra from Vauxhall and add to it. To claim that is somehow a stock Astra or not even a Vauxhall is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am bothering to argue with you...
You are so anally retentive, and why wouldn't you go for the best car in the range - 1.8i, what a joke. My wifes phase 1 Astra GSI Redtop to blow that into oblivion
i had a 1.8 cav and it topped out at a hearty 134mph (after about 30 mins flat out) a standard scooby was struggling to pass and he gave me the thumbs up lol
Oh dear, seems like I've touched a nerve. I buy a car for what it is, not for what it could be. It seems as though you have spent to much of your life remembering the exact model numbers for the various parts of Vauxhalls. Well done you, I hope you feel as though your life is fulfilled. And if you want to be anal, the 2ltr Redtop in question has an "L" shaped spark plug cover which indicates the 150bhp. The end
you talk some shit opel are cheaper than vauxhall cause their cheaper built for a start they havnt got a protected coat under neath the car and they havnt got as many layers of paint because opel is made for hot countries so its not needed but a opel in britain with british weather will rust like shit
Thats bullshit. I want to see the source that say vauxhall have more layers of paint than Opel. The only difference is the engine. Countries like: Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany and france are not very hot year around.
i can see by your name you like opel but its true vauxhall are a higher spec than opel thats why you can buy a opel for the same price as a bag of chips
like it or not the gap between diesel car and petrol cars is minimal. at the end of the day you drive what you like as long as your happy, have a nice day dude,
i think the video speaks for its self. you need to watch the le mans 24 hours race. the diesels, destroy the petrol on all levels. not saying that i hate petrol cars far from it. cant beat the sound of a petrol turbo .
no , if the cars were in 3rd it would be the same result. the 888 430nm VXR 320nm. does not sound alot, but in the real world its huge. IN ALL OUT DRAG RACE OVER A MILE . THE VXR WOULD WIN.
actually *even though i don't like the car* it's not called an Opel Astra VXR, its a Vauxhall Astra VXR which is it's UK brand name, in europe it's Opel, UK it's vauxhall, Australia it's Holden and USA its Saturn, or pontiac G88, they are all GM products just different names, and if it was an Opel it wouldn't be VXR it would be OPC, VXR- vauxhall racing, OPC - Opel performance Centre. :) Much prefer the Focus ST or the new RS though, still, looks good :P
if I remember rightly the 888 has 200BHP and 350lb/ft of torque, the VXr 240 BHP and 240lb/ft of torque, pretty even match on a tight track, the diesel torque would be very handy, what they should have done is a track race and a 1 mile drag race, just to show the top end of the cars, both are pretty good cars though. The good thing with the 888 is that you don't have to constantly change gears or worry about being in the wrong gear as much as a petrol car. And the 888 = 36MPG is pretty good.
in the uk. its called vauxhall astra vxr. only in the rest of europe it an opel. OPEL DONT GET THE SAME NAME FOR THIS CAR. ITS FOR THE UK ONLY. BUT THEY ARE STILL THE SAME CAR.
i think your wright mate. each time vicky is on screen the 888 is wright up to her door. then it cuts back to open shot of the two cars. vxr a car lenth ahead. does look fixed the way they have done this
I hate vxrs, they are all overrated performance wise, and cant handle for shit! I raced plenty and always beat them. Pathetic cars if u ask me. Look at my acceleration vid, i dont talk shit like vxr owners!!
they handle like that because the frame is worthiness if the frame were at least 80% better they wouldn't understear like they bo but at least the VXR8 is the best out of the VXR'S
I have the 1.9 cdti sri astra too, it's an amazing engine, so much torque from the engine, a great long distance cruiser, probably the best deisel car i've ever driven
Hmm, I used to have an Astra VXR. Rolling start, if she stuck it in 3rd, rolling at 30mph she would have dusted him. It was crap off the line as the power band is too short and it revved to quick, so you had to skip gears. However 30-70mph it went like a b******
Cont. I agree, choosing a fast car on economy grounds is a little sad, however if costs were no object then I guess we would all drive a super car of some description. I, personally, would love an Evo, but the thought of 20mpg and servicing every 3500 miles, every 8 weeks for me, is a bit prohibitive. Anyway it may be that I get the van. Mmm GTI baiting 0-60 in 6 seconds, 145 Mph. in an Astravan, and 50mpg if I drive it normally, there is something quite attractively perverse about that.
Big mistakes - gash cars. I'd have the diesel though.
gaz0044 4 months ago
Exterior pack astra looks nice than the vxr i think.
s8tank 4 months ago
Well how about you learn a bit about cars, you can't turn the turbo on and off using a button! It's a sports button to put the car in sports mode, if you turned the turbo off in a diesel it would barely move!
Shammy214 6 months ago
@Shammy214
True,
This 1.9 liter engine is very nice, but without the turbo, it would be a waste of a car.
The only problem that i can point out to my (this) car, is the huge turbo lag. If you enter a corner too fast with understeer, and you drop the revs to less than about 1800 rpm, it takes ages for it to recover.
But when it does, in beast mode (sport button pressed for 4/5 seconds), it gives you a nice kick in the back!
:)
Too bad i couldnt install this 888 kit in my car...
:(
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
And at the line... and I've dropped the hammer..... (and nothing is happening).
I do like Fifth Gear but this test was stupid. You just don't get a Diesel unless you are settled into a 'sensible' life that revolves around fuel economy. To buy new they are more expensive than petrol and after 3 years, your lovely car will just sound like an old Transit van.
Plus you have to do £1000's of work and huge turbos to get a diesel to match an unmodded petrol.
I'll buy a Diesel when I'm 60.
RewindMJ 6 months ago
@RewindMJ
Hmmm... true, i have this 1.9 diesel version for economic reasons, but when i thought about upgrading my car with electronic and exhaust upgrades, i came to the conclusion it would be a waste of money.
As i see it, want a fast sports car, buy a petrol one in the first place!
Only thing ive done was put brembo brakes and Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric tyres.
Here in Portugal, people are retarded and there are loads of "oil tankers" juiced up on the road. Its fucking pathetic!
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Can anyone tell me why he turns turbo on and off during the race, and just not leave it on? thanks
larssonk22 7 months ago
@larssonk22 He's not turning the turbo on and off you complete retard. He turns the sports setting on by the look of it and then mid-race either turns it off or holds it down to turn the traction control off.
Shammy214 6 months ago
@Shammy214 Hey cocksucker, how about a little respect I asked a reasonable question, I did not know there was traction control when you held the sports button down.
larssonk22 6 months ago
@larssonk22
To tell u the truth, the Sport button has 2 modes.
If u press it normally, it changes the electronics, throtle response is much faster and sharpens steering.
But if you press it for more than 4 or 5 seconds, it turns all driver aids of (traction and stability control), i already spun it. :)
But im not so sure about the ABS, because in this mode i already locked up the tyres in braking. Also, my car has already turned safe mode on while driving to its corner limits in the highway.
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@BallisticEVA01 thanks for the response
larssonk22 1 month ago
@larssonk22
No problem, mate!
YOu are thinking in buy one? Its a sufficient fast and economical car. :)
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
@BallisticEVA01 Yeh I love to own a VXR, the prices are fairly reasonable right now so I may trade in my SRi next year
larssonk22 1 month ago
@larssonk22
Your car is pretty nice, mate!
But i agree with you, if you can get an VXR, go for it! :)
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
As near as makes no difference its a 2.0 TUNED diesel versus a 2.0 stock petrol and its neck and neck. Give the petrol a remap and new tyres etc and have a rematch!
Gregisonutube 7 months ago
@Gregisonutube
Yeah, right... i have a friend of mine that has the same car, with 310 hp and he blew the engine. Thats why i didnt modify my Astra! :S
Modifying a diesel is a waste of money, if you ask me...
If fuel efficiency were not an issue, i would buy the OPC anytime.
Dont forget that if you tuned the petrol car also, it would DESTROYED the diesel car.
I am not trashing this 1.9 Diesel version, because i own one, and i like my car. But lets not get carried away...
:)
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@BallisticEVA01 umm, that was completely irrelevant...
Gregisonutube 1 month ago
@Gregisonutube
Hmmm...
I was replying to somebody else who was speaking about how great the diesel car is and how easy you could destroy a petrol car with a diesel engine, by modyfing it.
Sorry, wrong person!
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
@BallisticEVA01 its cool bro.
Gregisonutube 1 month ago
These cars look stupidly slow because of the granny way they are driving
giggsie11 7 months ago
Remaps on diesels do work but the trouble is during a hot summers day they are not getting the amount of air required for the remap. The correct amount of air needs to be ingested inorder for a remap to work properly. At night the cool air is dense and compressed so you get more of the correct amount of power. My Seat 1.9 TDI will put out 330-340 nms during a hot day and it shoots right up to 380 when the air is cold. You need to reduce the heat of the induction if you want more power.
1ns4ne1d10t 10 months ago
@1ns4ne1d10t
Yeah, i have a friend of mine with the same issue.
I am no mechanical genius, but if you installed a nice intercooler, would it help anything?
Cheers mate and have fun with your car. :)
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
@BallisticEVA01 Sillicone/cold feed turbo hoses and intercooler pipework will do the trick and should increase the power. New intercooler is better but then it also shoves your torque curve right up and eliminates the original low-down grunt. Changing your Pipework over to a cold air feed won't ruin the original grunt and It'll cost you less then installing a new intercooler. Do the pipes first and see if the pipes make a difference!
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
@1ns4ne1d10t
I see... Doing the pipework is an expensive thing to do?
I´ll talk about this to a friend of mine to see what he thinks. Thanks for the answer.
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
I own a z19dth remaped at 200hp, it's a great engine and does not compare to the class opponents DIESEL ! , GREATE ENGINE Z19DTH !
danilacetti 1 year ago
This is the only time id choose a diesel over petrol!!
dilawer321 1 year ago
Mild victory....whats she on about, the diesel was 50bhp down and 25kg heavier than the VXR... I say diesel WIN!!!
dubnutter 1 year ago
Go, go Astra!
WilsonsOfEpsom 1 year ago
Diesels are great as daily tools, but diesel will never surpass petrol in outright performance and fun factor.
This is coming from someone who owns an Astra with a Z19DTH and is considering chopping it in for a VXR out of sheer boredom.
Lolf88 1 year ago
@Lolf88
Dude, we are on the same page! :)
I also like my 1.9 Astra, but... im a little bit bored with that engine. Well, i bought it for diesel economic issues, so i cant really complain much. For daily basis, it does well the job.
By the way, have you got any issues with the alternator? I already had with mine and so did a friend of mine, but he already had to change it twice!!!
:S
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
You always get the same retarded comments whenever VBH is on a youtube video.
#1 "OMG woman what are you doing out of the kitchen".
#2 " You clearly know nothing about driving, she would embarrass any man on the track"
#3 "OMG VBH is beautiful, I want to pork her! lolz"
#4 "Her laugh is soo annoying/sexy!"
You get the idea. So lets establish some facts:
#1 Her voice is annoying.
#2 She is a good driver, is she the best in the world? No.
#3 She probably makes great sandwiches.
Lolf88 1 year ago 2
@Lolf88 I lime how you said facts when you assume someone!!!
AdrianC12345 1 year ago
@AdrianC12345
I wish I spoke your language. :-)
Lolf88 1 year ago
@Lolf88 My bad, I ment to say someTHING. See?! Now I feel stupid for failing to correct you!!!!!!!! Lol!!!! :)
AdrianC12345 1 year ago
@Lolf88 OH MY DAYS best comment all year
dilawer321 1 year ago
i had to many astra h one of them 1.7cdti then i had 1.6 then i had 1.9 cdti and now i have 1.8 SRi and that really fast a want to buy also vxr because its 2.0 turbo love astra
bebo5566 1 year ago
@bebo5566 If you knew anything youd know that a 1.9 CDTi 150 is a lot faster than the 1.8 petrol :)
I know as i have owned both and still have my diesel :)
moschops21 1 year ago
@moschops21 I totally agree with you. I used to drive the 1.8 SRi VVT's at enterprise rent a car, I almost lived in them. I got to test them on all types of scenario's. Funny thing is they actually feel faster then what my own remapped Seat Leon FR feels like. Its a false perception of fast acceleration with petrols. I was in a red 1.8 sporthatch SRI with the S switched on and tried to keep up with a europcar Sport hatch CDTI 150. 4,000-6,000 hard revs of sheer 1.8 brutality never touched it.
1ns4ne1d10t 10 months ago
@moschops21
I also own a 1.9 CDTi 150 hp Astra, and im happy with it, but doesnt the turbo lag sometimes annoys you?
In a few ocasions, when driving fast with Sport button on, and overspeed into a corner with understeer, it takes about 1.5 to 3 seconds to the turbo kick again. This only occours in certain rpms. Have you ever experienced this turbo lag?
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
@bebo5566 I almost lived in the 1.8 SRi VVT's when I used to work as a driver for enterprise rent a car. Don't wrong me, they feel really fast out of 1st/2nd gear only because you are topping the revs but its a completely false sence of speed, an optical illusion of acceleration trickery. Most 9.0 second petrols all feel like it. Keep up with a Tiguan TDI, Insignia CDTI or a Mondeo 2.0 TDCI in one and watch how they will leave you disappearing no matter how hard you try. CDTi 150's are faster.
1ns4ne1d10t 10 months ago
all that black smoke coming out the exhaust cant be good
bilbo1181 1 year ago
@bilbo1181 needs a good service.. shame on you 888
Hypster123 1 year ago
@bilbo1181
It's a natural by product of a tuned diesel as it's putting more fuel through the engine. Tuning boxes are even worse for this and as a result it causes more damage to the engine.
Lolf88 1 year ago
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1:43 limiter sounds so good on the vxr!
bmxdan08 1 year ago
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bmxdan08 1 year ago
that 1.9 diesel vas developed by Fiat and improved by alfa romeo and then sold to Vauxhall who had improwed it even more :)
wedziss 1 year ago
...or you can buy a stock opel/vauxhall astra gtc with z19dth engine and get the eds motorsport phase2 210hp 430nm remap with bigger intercooler , like i did.
smettto 1 year ago
The diesel should feel a hell of a lot quicker with 450nm of torque compared to the 350nm of the vxr, bearing in mind that a 2009 ferrari 458 italia has 450nm of torque, but with 562bhp and a 0-60 of 3.4 seconds.
just buy a normal 150bhp astra diesel and chip it up, its as quick as a 888 but at a fraction of the cost
rossyt96 1 year ago 2
@rossyt96 a stock astra vxr/opc has 320 nm. same as stock z19dth engine.
smettto 1 year ago
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rossyt96 1 year ago
Diesel power kicks ass !!! I hava a astra 1.9 with 150hp and i love it.............
tigraxtreme 1 year ago
I've been reading the comments from people who haven't ever driven one of these 888's i'm one of the lucky 100 people how owns one of these if you want to know the truth about this vid and how it really went ask the guys at Thurlby's, put it this way it didn't go well for the VXR.
Watch the vid carefully when they do the lap, one minute it's raining next it's bone dry.
mattbaker71 1 year ago
... Cont
This point was brought home by the fact that on an A road blast, I couldn't pull away from him, I'll leave the rest to your imagination.
So for all these comments about diesels being slower than the equivilent petrol, get real chaps.
And yes, I find Vicky Benson and Hedges irritating as well, in fact you can burn the whole cast of Fifth Gear for what I care.
Lolf88 1 year ago
@Lolf88
Im sorry, i also own a 150 1.9 Astra, but i think that, to compare both cars fair and square, you would have to souped up the VXR also.
We are talking about a modified car against a stock one! Then... the VXR also tunned would destroy our car.
Here in Portugal, there is a guy with a OPC (VXR) tuned version with 450 hp and i doubt our car tuned would even get close. I saw it running in the Estoril track and it was a beast!!!
Cheers
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
I'm really loving all the sour grapes petrol fanboy comments on here. From what I could see in this vid the petrol turbo had a full 40-or-so BHP over the diesel engine, as well as being lighter and from the off there was nothing in it.
I have a Ford Focus ST170 and I am chopping it in for an 06 plate Astra CDTi 150 this, not only because it's going to save me a bomb in tax, insurance and running costs but against my Focus it is just as quick despite being down on 20bhp. Cont...
Lolf88 1 year ago
@Lolf88 Half of the ST170's made by Ford never produced the real 170 horsepower. Ford threw in a VVT inlet cam and had the cylinders modified by cosworth on the old 128bhp 2.0 litre Zetec/Duratec engine. Ford being Ford never road tested it or dyno tested the car they just 'threw it in' at a wild guess and mapped the engine management to put out 170. Only the outcome of it wasn't quite what they'd hoped for...
1ns4ne1d10t 1 month ago
YEAH, diesel power eat my dust petrol !
londerium 1 year ago
nice but I seen better at tiny[.]cc/doherhole
TyniwypopMyweleli 2 years ago
In the real world, the turbo diesel will always be quicker than the petrol, the fact that it will probably do about 20 miles more to the gallon is nice as well.
Lolf88 2 years ago
but then, with a change of exahust, air intake, intercooler and remap the petrol astra will see around 300bhp. The diesel is already the max that it can be.
I agree that like for like, the diesel will win in the real world, but the petrol can be taken so much further!
Enzer89 1 year ago
@Enzer89
Thanks mate, you made my point! :)
Exactly! Not to mention the huge puff of smoke like an oil tanker that these tuned diesel cars make...
My point is: want a sports car... buy petrol! Period!
If i could, i would swap my 1.9 150 hp Astra for a OPC(VXR) one, anytime!!!
But im glad with my car though... 150 hp is enough to play and be economical at the same time.
:)
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
that woman is a CRAP DRIVER
DanialA11 2 years ago
@DanialA11
You obviously dont have a clue what you are talking about lol
TheVtieg6 2 years ago
TheVtieg6 yes i do and i know she is rubbish
DanialA11 2 years ago
Well do some research on her and you will realize how stupid you are
TheVtieg6 2 years ago
well shes a rubbish driver to me i dnt need 2 reasearch an find out other peoples opinions i think shes rubbish no1 said anythink to you dumbass
DanialA11 2 years ago
Well you cleary dont know nothing
Do you even know who she is?
TheVtieg6 2 years ago 6
@DanialA11
Vicki Butler Henderson, raced karts from the age of 12, and has had various jobs in the motoring press, as well as being a licensed racing driver.
Assistant launch editor and mechanic in Max Power magazine.
Worked for Auto Express, What Car? and Performance Car.
Oh yes, and
Racing instructor at Silverstone Circuit.
Clearly rubbish.
wordreet 1 year ago
@wordreet mechanic in Max Power mag? come on, Redline makes Max Power look like a bridal mag!! have you seen the latest Max Power mag? a guy spent £35 grand on a 1.4 fiesta!! he didnt do nothing to the engine, just exterior work. whats the point? why not buy a nice M3? So trust a bird from a car beautician mag? lol!
767nutter 1 year ago
@767nutter Did you read the rest of my post or just kneejerk to the words Max Power? She worked there 16 years ago. I read neither of those mags, nor do I read bridal mags. ;-) Journalists move on from stuff, just like anyone pursuing a career. Did you bother to read where I put Auto Express or What Car or Performance Car? And just to take any argument to schoolboy level, she knows more than you about cars and is a better driver, than you. She could teach you to drive better, no question.
wordreet 1 year ago
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767nutter 1 year ago
@wordreet 1) where did i state i was a brill driver/better than her/ know more about cars than her?? Please enlighten me 2) your post didnt state she worked for max power 16 years ago, how was i to know that? 3) follows on from 2, because i dont follow her life progress. 4) yes i read all your post, but i was just pointing out how max power concentrates more on the bodywork of cars. read my post properly before contradicting yourself !
767nutter 1 year ago
@767nutter You have the whole internet available to you, you could do a little research before you defame a celebrity's carachter, and I never said that you stated you were any kind of driver, I actually said that I was entering the schoolboy style argument level. So that you'd know i was being deliberately childish. I don't follow anyone's career, but I did do some checking before I stepped up to defend VBH from a collegiate ingoramus.
wordreet 1 year ago
@wordreet jesus do you take everything seriously? i didnt say she was thick, or didnt know what she was on about, i was more attacking max power mag than her! couldnt you work that out? and taking this to schoolboy level myself, a bit of irony in calling someone an ignoramus when they cant spell it themselves! :-D
767nutter 1 year ago
@767nutter Oh balls, I didn't spelcheck it! X¬D
Ignoramus me!
wordreet 1 year ago
lol dude i see you on like every video :)
DREWCIVIC 2 years ago
Shes just a shit driver and changes gear too early.
SaosinComeClose 2 years ago
Diesel.. Gotta love it!
Just had the VRS remapped... Extra 50bhp lovely... ST, VXR, 3 MPS etc etc drivers don't like me!
Yes that's right... It's a Skoda Fabia lol!
SammyJ21 2 years ago 9
your skoda still aint as fast as a st or vxr !! not even close
yjazzb 2 years ago 3
Im sure they dont like you, as you still get in the way. Unless the ST you talk about is a Fiesta, the you mean you can just about keep up with a Corsa VXR, if your talking Focus/Astra (and the 3 MPS) then you arent as quick, carry on dreaming.
TSpark1986 2 years ago
When you're pushing 180bhp at the wheels in my car that's now grabbing 290ft lb a torque then yes, I can easily stay with VXR's, FOCUS ST's and 3 MPS'
There's no need for dreamin sunshine! The lag in the VXR is ridiculous! 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear I'm gonna see them in the mirrors!
SammyJ21 2 years ago
Thats the thing, your not pushing 180bhp @ the wheels with your quoted "vRS remapped Extra 50bhp lovely" if your running 290lb.ft of torque, you have a generic phase 1 remap, on a PD130 with a KKK turbo unit, which will never produce your claim of 180bhp @ the wheels. More like at the fly, and even then only just with the BLT engine. You would need to run closer to 2BAR on that turbo (with lots of smoke) to get 180bhp @ wheels, and then your chocolate turbo melts.. cont...
TSpark1986 2 years ago
cont .... You cant stay with VXR Astra's easily unless the VXR isnt being driven to use its power, same with ST and MPS. I can dream all day long, but I know. Yes 2nd/3rd & 4th are strong points in your TDi, but even with a run up, in gear, up a hill in 3rd the VXR Astra is faster.
TSpark1986 2 years ago
Ok I will explain... Remap, High-Flow Cat and Downpipe with Connecting pipe and PD160 Air filter. nothing has been tinkered with in terms of Turbo.
If you are thinking I have had an AMD remap and stupid cat-back from Milltek or something then it would be producing about 180 at the fly... I admit though, as soon as I get into 5th and 6th around the 90mph mark I'm starting to run out of steam, but then I've shortened the gear ratios to keep the torque band at 2100rpm
SammyJ21 2 years ago
LOL. Explain how a turbo not able to your 'claimed' 180 at the wheels is please? No amount of remap, High Flow Cat (why when a de-cat would be better as even less 'flow') downpipe with connecting pipe and PD160 Air filter would do this? A PD160 (only made for the Seat Ibiza Cupra 6L) has the same air filter as the PD130 FR and/or vRS. I think you mean thePD160 'pipe' which goes into the Air filter housing... Whatreg is your vRS? Sure your not dreaming you have a pre-05 plate with 05plate gears?
TSpark1986 2 years ago
@SammyJ21 just had my astra cdti remapped to 220bhp , no one likes me!50mpg and 0-60 in 6.3 secs lol
tomince 1 year ago
@SammyJ21 i have my audi a3 s line 2.0tdi remaped but was just destroying all the engine componets. clutch/dual mass flywheel, water pump, head gasket.... water leaks.. oil leaks... have you had any problems??
vteckicksarse 7 months ago
@vteckicksarse
Dude... thats why my 1.9 Astra is Stock... a friend of mine upgraded it to 310 hp and blew the engine! A playing around that cost him about 12.000 euros!
150 hp is enough to play.
Only thing i upgraded in my car was a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 assymetric tyres and Brembo brakes.
I hope you got your car fixed! That Audi is a nice car! By the way, is it the 2.0 140 hp or the 170 hp version?
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@BallisticEVA01 mine was the 140bhp version fwd, after remap it was 170-175bhp bout 290-300ft lbs of torque.. the mid range pull was insane, gave butterflys on heavy acceleration, EVERYTHING went on it just about, it was such a nice car too... 140bhp was good enough but i couldnt help but try take it to its limit.. wish i left it standard..
vteckicksarse 1 month ago
@vteckicksarse
Yeah, i do understand the surge of need to have more horsepower, my father had a Audi A4 estate with the same 2.0 140hp and whenever my dad played around with me and my Astra, his Audi very often stayed standing talking alone... the 1.9 Audi diesel engine was a little bit more lively, dont you think?
Still... great engine, i already made more than 1100 kms with one full tank, granny style driving!
Did you fixed your A3? Its a great car, confortable and very good looking.
BallisticEVA01 1 month ago
@BallisticEVA01 i drove a 1.9tdi audi a3, felt it was too slow really, thats why i went for the 2.0tdi, on a 2006 plate (06) mine was the s line model too, half leather ect.. it had 120,000 miles on clock when i had to get rid of it, the head gasket went in the end, and we wasnt sure if the head was cracked, next the turbo would of blew.. so talking a few grand to keep, maybe get another one in the future. ive driven the 150 astra sri, was a absolute animal in sport mode i felt, loved it!
vteckicksarse 1 month ago
Would have the diesel over the vxr anyday!! The vxr in this video isn't even stock it has a remus exhaust so that would add about 10bhp.
kyleclio172 2 years ago
The woman is the worst thing in the show , they should fire the woman , she is realy annoying .
subzerofreez 2 years ago
race her!.. then you'll be annoyed
RSROBXR2 2 years ago
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subzerofreez 2 years ago
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subzerofreez 2 years ago
Women shouldnt be able to talk about cars
iamrichlol 2 years ago
Whats the point in accelerating from 50 on 4th gear? For diesel, 4th gear is optimal for accelerating from that speed, while for petrol, the revs are too low. She could easily kick in 3rd gear and show the diesel car her back in seconds.
Also, the race is hollywood. VXR would be faster in first corner and never give diesel version a chance.
Perknovak 2 years ago
yes true BUT IF THE DIESEL WAS IN THIRD THE RESULT WOULD BE THE SAME, 888 HAS TO MUCH TORQUE.
STRAIGHT DRAG RACE UP TO TOP SPEED VXR WOULD WIN THAT.
BUT 888 NOT JUST ABOUT TOPSPEED. POWER COMBINED WITH GREAT MPG
mcguggonedward 2 years ago 3
No, if the diesel was in third it would blow up. Imagine it: 50 mph, 4th gear: both engines have about 3.600 rpm and the diesel has more power, but if the petrol car siwtches to 3rd gear, it will do about 5.000 rpm and it will easily outperform the diesel. If the diesel switches to 3rd gear, it will also have about 5.000 rpm, but diesel engines dont work in such a high revs, so it woudlnt accelerate at all.
Its not the torque that pushes the car forward, the power does.
Turn off capslock btw.
Perknovak 2 years ago
stfu stop going on about gearing at the end of the day the vxr isnt that much faster around a track, and the diesel will do a good 40mpg all day, so fuck off you czech bastard i bet you dont even have a car fucking weasel -.-
ahahahascott 2 years ago 3
Lol, you say a bullshit, I correct you, you are out of arguments and you start with "stfu", "czech bastard", etc. etc. You really must be an idiot, dude. Heh, I just checked your profile, b/c I thought you will be like 13 yo, but if you are really 27, its serious with you, mate. Get a life asap. Btw. I believe I have more cars than you have shoes, jackass.
Perknovak 2 years ago
you have more cars than i have shoes i doubt that abd even if you have lots of cars what does that acheive fuck all if youve so many cars where are the videos no where because your a little fucking 14 year old foreigner that thinks because your behind a pc screen you can talk big the only cars you know about are the ones you read about dont say shit unles youve been in the car and mate i do have a life im not the one that replied to the comment in less than an hour you must be sat at pc non stop
ahahahascott 2 years ago 2
I dont work in factory, dude, when someone replies on my comments it sends me an e-mail, so I can reply right away. But I must politely end this conversation, I expected arguments, but you offered only insultations, so I won´t waste my time with you anymore. Discussion over.
Perknovak 2 years ago
your only saying that because you know you cant win the argument..
ahahahascott 2 years ago
How is it that this "czech bastard" can type better than the English guy? You fucking let down.
Phillthy59 2 years ago
As much as your argument is right in the sense of why do a 4th gear rolling start, 50mph in 3rd would be fine in my diesel? Whoever the idiot is scott person, your a fool.
TSpark1986 2 years ago
All the 888 turd polishing and it still lost.... LMFAO....
peterfarrow 2 years ago
peterfarrow
Why are you laughing u knobhead?
Its still 3k cheaper, and plus I'd rather have a deisel that can smack sum pretty respectable cars and at the end of it go ha! u got wiped by a deisel.
and what do u mean "turd polishings"
the vxr has the same types of mods.
so go tweak ur nips in the shower and while ur at it you can laugh at ur insignificant shrub.
bigmandood 2 years ago
The VXR is stock. The 888 has all that money spent on basically a shed puller engine and it still lost.
So yes, they spent lots of time polishing a turd and it still lost.
Moral of the story, if you want go fast don't buy a diesel...
So calm down, go drink some fosters, and yes you are descended from a convict...
peterfarrow 2 years ago
lol
vrchris 2 years ago
Astra VXR stock?
Hmmm so the Astra 1.8s are??? sub-stock?
Adamw5433 2 years ago
stock means "unmodified, as it came out the original manufacturer's factory"
peterfarrow 2 years ago
Your statement is fawed.
Triple 8 released the Astra 888 as thier own car, and they were never pre-registered as a Vauxhall.
So considering 888 is the manufacturer of the Astra 888 then its also stock.
As it was never been modified before it was registered.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
Its a vauxhall Astra with bolt ons. you know, i know it, don't be utterlly ridiculous claiming this is a different car. Its even called an Astra.
They buy an Astra from Vauxhall and add to it. To claim that is somehow a stock Astra or not even a Vauxhall is such a stupid comment I don't even know why I am bothering to argue with you...
I think I hear your mum calling, run along...
peterfarrow 2 years ago
Well i have a RHD Vauxhall Cavalier 1.8i, and on the vin plate says its an Opel.
So even Vauxhall don't sell cars as Vauxhalls.
Thanks for par-taking.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
I wouldn't have admited to that
lutenertic 2 years ago
Why?
It still keeps up with a new shape Astra upto 80 - 85.
Plus 4 more year it'll be 20yr old and on it way to a proper classic.
I'll admit its not a GSI2000 or an SRi, but it does me fine.
Cheap as chips to run, parts are plently and cheap.
Why should i pay hand over fist for a new Vectra when they cost a ton to insure, tax, and run.
Parts are around, but at stupid prices.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
I wouldn't have admited to owning the that!!
FYI Opel and Vauxhall are in the same group
lutenertic 2 years ago
Opel have a much better build quality than Vauxhall produced vehicles.
I'm sumizing you've never looked into that fact.
You can get alot of aftermarket parts for an Opel over a Vauxhall.
Yes they have the same drive drains, floor pan, ect...
But much much better build quality.
The engines are the same, but the Opel built engine last longer and run smoother.
Don't ask me why but they do.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
You are so anally retentive, and why wouldn't you go for the best car in the range - 1.8i, what a joke. My wifes phase 1 Astra GSI Redtop to blow that into oblivion
lutenertic 2 years ago
So would the fuel costs.
I've had 1 Astra GSI, 1 Cavalier GSI and a Cav turbo. (when fuel was cheap)
The engines are quick but shite on maintance, serviced them every 4k and they still fooked up.
The 1.8 is gutless at top end but it keeps on going, not matter what you through at it.
The last owner ran it for 7 months every day without oiling it.
Never blow up or missed a beat.
The C20XE smashed its prop shaft at 20mph low rev, what the f*ck!
The LET just through a piston.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
i had a 1.8 cav and it topped out at a hearty 134mph (after about 30 mins flat out) a standard scooby was struggling to pass and he gave me the thumbs up lol
Soulvex 2 years ago
"Opel, the European subsidiary of General Motors, and is part of GM Europe
"Vauxhall Motors is a British automobile company. It is a subsidiary of General Motors Corporation (GM), and is part of GM Europe"
Vauxhall and Opel are part of the same company group, however I don't see "888, a subsidiary of general motors anywhere"
QED. LMFAO....
peterfarrow 2 years ago
WOW! i didn't know that.
I'm not arguing they are a different company or owned by a different company.
The build quility is completely different, the opel built vehicles last alot longer and ride better than the Vauxhall built vehicles.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
The 2ltr Redtop is quite possibly the best N/A engine built by Vauxhall/Opel/Bedford (whoever else might fit into this category)
You never hear of cavalier 1.8i engines in caterhams LOL
lutenertic 2 years ago
You realise the 'Red top' consists of about 5 different engines.
Atleast get the engine code right.
C20LET?
C20XE?
Z20LET?
Z20XER?
Z20LER?
And if your really anal.... 1.6 and 1.8 Eco-tecs were given a red spark plug cover for a while.
Apparently your just another knob jockey boy racer that knows fuck all about his cars other than it revs and have a sound system.
Go get a Section 59 and an ASBO, it'll be the only achivement you ever get in your sad little life.
vectorm1299 2 years ago
And not forgetting the C25XE 2.5V6 original came with a red engine top.
And the Z20LEH
vectorm1299 2 years ago
Oh dear, seems like I've touched a nerve. I buy a car for what it is, not for what it could be. It seems as though you have spent to much of your life remembering the exact model numbers for the various parts of Vauxhalls. Well done you, I hope you feel as though your life is fulfilled. And if you want to be anal, the 2ltr Redtop in question has an "L" shaped spark plug cover which indicates the 150bhp. The end
lutenertic 2 years ago
The early cross over ecotecs had the red L spark plug covers, it wasn't until later all ecotecs went to black spark plug covers.
I used to work in a motorfactors and youd always get the " i need this for a red top"
You get them a part for the "red top" and fook me if the part didn't fit.
Theres plenty of morans that hear RETOP and just shout it when they get the chance to sound like the know thier stuff when they don't.
*"Oh the redtop is the best"
"which one?"
*"errrr"
vectorm1299 2 years ago
I'm a qualified mechanic, although it is no longer my profession, I do know what I am talking about. I don't just order the parts - I fit them too.
lutenertic 2 years ago
I'm not arguing that fact with you.
I'm just saying theres a bunch of idoits that think the REPTOP is one engine, when its like 5.
It does my head in when someone doesn't know what 'redtop' they have.
Maybe its from the days of the motorfactors and having to send parts back becuase some tit didn't know what engine it was.
Its was the same when someone asked for a part for a 'Ford ST'.. oh the joys of explaining the different engines and models.
"yer but its a Ford ST mate"
Oh FFS!
vectorm1299 2 years ago
fuck me your clever to now that their was different size engined red tops i had a 2.0 blue top in my car tho
brettwill87 2 years ago
don't forget the Z20LEL ;) also the C18XE i think :S
RSTdave88 1 year ago
@RSTdave88 C20Xe - vauxhall's half hearted attempt at beating honda's v-tec
stuntcrazy8 1 year ago
you talk some shit opel are cheaper than vauxhall cause their cheaper built for a start they havnt got a protected coat under neath the car and they havnt got as many layers of paint because opel is made for hot countries so its not needed but a opel in britain with british weather will rust like shit
brettwill87 2 years ago
Thats bullshit. I want to see the source that say vauxhall have more layers of paint than Opel. The only difference is the engine. Countries like: Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany and france are not very hot year around.
opelduude 2 years ago
i can see by your name you like opel but its true vauxhall are a higher spec than opel thats why you can buy a opel for the same price as a bag of chips
brettwill87 2 years ago
There was and is no difference. same ECOtec's same output same set up. Different name.
megaman2000 2 years ago
i was going to buy the astra vxr but the Triple 8 Astra Diesel seems equally as fastish? would the Triple 8 Astra Diesel give me more miles per galon
BMXBOBO 2 years ago
BMXBOBO
r u joking?
of course the diesel is going to be better on fuel.
kudos on the choice to get one of these cars. both well good.
but 3k cheaper, go the triple 8.
sexy car.
bigmandood 2 years ago
COOL
morgangamer22 3 years ago
like it or not the gap between diesel car and petrol cars is minimal. at the end of the day you drive what you like as long as your happy, have a nice day dude,
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
i think the video speaks for its self. you need to watch the le mans 24 hours race. the diesels, destroy the petrol on all levels. not saying that i hate petrol cars far from it. cant beat the sound of a petrol turbo .
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
the second test was not about which gear the car was in its to demonstrate. torque,
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
she wants to fuck him.
PELLAPELLA 3 years ago
no , if the cars were in 3rd it would be the same result. the 888 430nm VXR 320nm. does not sound alot, but in the real world its huge. IN ALL OUT DRAG RACE OVER A MILE . THE VXR WOULD WIN.
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
For the rolling race: "50mph in 4th gear"...shouldn't the VXR have been in 3rd to utilise it's power? I think that's why it lost.
dogley1 3 years ago 2
Thats the point. Diesel wins on in gear acceleration due to the torque...
HoeBlogggs 3 years ago
actually *even though i don't like the car* it's not called an Opel Astra VXR, its a Vauxhall Astra VXR which is it's UK brand name, in europe it's Opel, UK it's vauxhall, Australia it's Holden and USA its Saturn, or pontiac G88, they are all GM products just different names, and if it was an Opel it wouldn't be VXR it would be OPC, VXR- vauxhall racing, OPC - Opel performance Centre. :) Much prefer the Focus ST or the new RS though, still, looks good :P
RvRCoupe19 3 years ago
if I remember rightly the 888 has 200BHP and 350lb/ft of torque, the VXr 240 BHP and 240lb/ft of torque, pretty even match on a tight track, the diesel torque would be very handy, what they should have done is a track race and a 1 mile drag race, just to show the top end of the cars, both are pretty good cars though. The good thing with the 888 is that you don't have to constantly change gears or worry about being in the wrong gear as much as a petrol car. And the 888 = 36MPG is pretty good.
insanejim69 3 years ago
it's not Vauxhall Astra VXR it's OPEL Astra VXR!!!!!!!!!!!!
maccroo 3 years ago
all in europe opel(GM usa) is opel ,in uk the name of opel is Vauxhall but have the same car.
ortsegga 3 years ago 2
in the uk. its called vauxhall astra vxr. only in the rest of europe it an opel. OPEL DONT GET THE SAME NAME FOR THIS CAR. ITS FOR THE UK ONLY. BUT THEY ARE STILL THE SAME CAR.
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
Its not Opel astra VXR , its Opel astra OPC
TourDeSomewhere 3 years ago
no bc opel is own by vauxhall and vauxhall is own by GM dum dum
hpwill 3 years ago
@hpwill vauxhall doesn't own opel, "dum dum" lol
they're both owned by gm.
smettto 1 year ago
This video was rigged I believe... 5th Gear tends to do that alot.
Klaflefalumpf 3 years ago 2
i think your wright mate. each time vicky is on screen the 888 is wright up to her door. then it cuts back to open shot of the two cars. vxr a car lenth ahead. does look fixed the way they have done this
mcguggonedward 3 years ago
I hate vxrs, they are all overrated performance wise, and cant handle for shit! I raced plenty and always beat them. Pathetic cars if u ask me. Look at my acceleration vid, i dont talk shit like vxr owners!!
400pile 3 years ago
they handle like that because the frame is worthiness if the frame were at least 80% better they wouldn't understear like they bo but at least the VXR8 is the best out of the VXR'S
hpwill 3 years ago
OMG!!! Spice Girls
Mthtmty 3 years ago
I have one astra h 1.8 chip tunning. Now it has 155ps it is faster than bmw 118i, tsi 140, bravo tjet 150ps honda civic 1,8 and oter cars :p
xarisvectragts2200 3 years ago
its all in ur bag
3afuse 3 years ago
I have the 1.8 VVT sri astra 140bhp, it's an amazing car!
paulfrost1986 3 years ago 2
but it understrea worse than ford festa ST
hpwill 3 years ago
Sorry i mean "H" LoL
paulfrost1986 3 years ago
Astra G is one best/nicer car in history of vauxhall!
paulfrost1986 3 years ago 2
Agreed
Jammie1233 3 years ago
I have the 1.9 cdti sri astra too, it's an amazing engine, so much torque from the engine, a great long distance cruiser, probably the best deisel car i've ever driven
martin200785 3 years ago
i have a 1.9 cdti 150 bhp astra sport hatch and the tork is amasing
theheatley 3 years ago
I have the astra 2.0 turbo.... About 250bhp i know what you been with the tork pal.... quite impressive
kezrat123 3 years ago
These were only sold through Thurlby Moters rigt? Based in lincolnshire and the didnt build 100 they built 99.. They didnt make a 13..
SomeOneHasMyRsName 3 years ago
Hmm, I used to have an Astra VXR. Rolling start, if she stuck it in 3rd, rolling at 30mph she would have dusted him. It was crap off the line as the power band is too short and it revved to quick, so you had to skip gears. However 30-70mph it went like a b******
lordcatlow 3 years ago
Cont. I agree, choosing a fast car on economy grounds is a little sad, however if costs were no object then I guess we would all drive a super car of some description. I, personally, would love an Evo, but the thought of 20mpg and servicing every 3500 miles, every 8 weeks for me, is a bit prohibitive. Anyway it may be that I get the van. Mmm GTI baiting 0-60 in 6 seconds, 145 Mph. in an Astravan, and 50mpg if I drive it normally, there is something quite attractively perverse about that.
DJBigMac 3 years ago