I love Jesus and I love the Bible, and I love good honest discussion ! I have seen the Bible in a new light , and few have seen these things that I have seen. Send me a personal message on why or why not you want to believe Christianity, and I'll discuss, I love to discuss all things, as long as we can be friendly :)
I'm agnostic and I love this :-) I can't believe that I actually used to be a hardcore christian that couldn't even imagine not believing in a god. I've come a long way this past year and a half.
Thanks for the video. I really appreciate my atheist friends. When I talk to them about their concepts of origin and energy, they often reaffirm and strengthen my faith far more than religious people. Christ’s message through the eyes an atheist can make a lot of sense. Love to you all as we struggle together for the truth.
@AquariusLove100 They will never give it up; they've been indoctrinated to believe it since they were infants. However, if we protect our children from the "evangelists" from birth, the christians will be gone by the time they have children of their own. Those children will be the saviors of our world.
LMAO-- great points -- all true. It's a shame though that most bible thumpers aren't literate enough to read all that you wrote or are so close minded that they will turn the video off without reading most of it.
excellent post by TGS, yet you can always be disappointed that some sheep will do all sorts of contortionist reasoning to prove there imaginary god\dog. 2011, time for the sheep to be herded into the pen of reason before some fundamentalist nutter gets his hands on some serious weaponary,as its quiet frighting in this day and age
Atheists say WE believe in fairy tales?? You should do one about evolution. Get this. An evolutionist believes that if I put my lap top on the beach, given enough time, it will turn into a human!!!!! And YOU think talking snakes is ridiculous???
@YesYou123333 I hope that was sarcasm. If not....what!? (Remember, Google is your friend, and all you need to do is write in the search box "Evolution", press enter and be edjucated. This goes to everyone...)
@YesYou123333 XD Yes, I've seen examples about this, and they all have two things in common. A) they do not undestand what evolution is and B) they do not understand science (sure, they'll use fancy titles, but even if started to call myself the Emperor of Rome, that doesn't change the fact that I'm not).
@YesYou123333 first off what is an evolutionist?are you a Jesusist?And I know of no person of science or with half a brain that thinks your lap top will turn into anything.You on the other hand think if you telapathically tell god to turn it into something he just might.and yes even small children think talking snakes are ridiculous.
The biggest sign you're a Fundie is saying many times you're not, even if you DO say things like "h-e-double hockey stick" (really, saying 'hell' is no worse than saying 'Altoona' or "Runcorn') or "God gave you that cancer to show you the wickenedess of your ways"...
I agree with all of the points, except for one; Atheists absolutely DO recognize good and evil, we just don't consider it as coming from a divine source or superstition.
The entire point of Christianity is that you have a choice whether or not to accept the fact that you're not perfect, and whether or not to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Virtually every other regime and belief system, whether religious or secular, does not, and particularly the governments constantly build to control you. How is being offered a choice to believe such a dangerous belief system?
@Lachdenan When the choice is being blackmailed through being sent to a concentration camp for all eternity! Let's say Hitler gave the Nazis a choice, but if they did not worship Hitler they go to a concentration camp.
You use radical Islamic countries as models of moral societies and suggest we adopt their principles here, yet still call yourself a patriotic American.
You believe "and such were some of you" is scientific, irrefutable proof that homosexual orientation can be changed to heterosexual through prayer.
Upon learning of various instances of infant slaughter in the OT, you state God simply spared them a life of sin by killing them young, yet you think abortion is an intrinsic evil.
@RandomUTuber819 Also, I have to mention that infant slaughter is not condoned anywhere in the Bible. Can you not scroll over two sentences and see that the individual doing the slaughtering "did evil in the sight of the Lord" or wrought wickedness, etc. etc. Just because something is mentioned doesn't mean it's advocated. I'm sure you have some other problem with Christianity, but it's ridiculous to lie to people's faces like that. Have fun trying to word-trap people to "prove" yourself.
@RandomUTuber819 And what does killing the Council of Balaam prove? They were actively warring against the Hebrews and they were destroyed. This is not the same as convincing a mother to kill her own children. The notion that it is is a fallicious lie. That regards Numbers 31 17...the "good example."
@Lachdenan So the children must be killed because they were decieved to trespass by the women? You still haven't got to why the slaughter mentioned in Hosea is okay.
The problem with posting videos like this is that the act of recognizing an organization usually gives it legitimacy of sorts. If we all ignored them, no matter how obnoxious they got, they would stop being pests.
I personally think humanity is mature enough now to develop a system of morallity and ethics that is not enforced by some invisible force. It would be great if atheists could get together and develop a scientific systemized basis for understanding the why of the moralities that till now have mainly been enforced by religions.
@adenjones1 - The problem is not figuring out why religious morality was dominant, but to argue that secular morality does indeed exist, which plenty of naifs still refuse to believe.
You should have added how Christians (from other videos) have said that if they were atheist, they would go around killing people... because they don't have god to fear.. So they would kill if they didn't fear their god....
yeah all that stuff is pretty much true i mean what are these people thinking maybe they drank jesus's "blood" and it turns out it was a mix of acid and crack or something. maybe thats why there minds are so out of wack.
Err... 2:36: atheists most certainly do consider the concepts of "good" and "evil" to be valid concepts, just that we don't define them within the context of religion.
And at 3:46, communism is a secular religion. Marx even went so far as to insulate it from outside criticism by coming up with the idea of "polylogism", which states that logic works differently for different people (which would invalidate it's practice entirely, the intended effect). Hence "bourgeois logic".
I think everyone knows how not to go to hell. It's called repentance. Then obey God. God has promised to punish or destroy everything and everyone who doesn't obey him. This is the word of the true and living God. I didn't make this up. It is not my idea. I get the same judgment as everyone else if I don't obey. People are so in love with their sin that they can't think straight.
@lumphead85 ok, im an atheist, and the only "sin" i have committed is blasphemy. so...... screw off with your overly simplified generalizations, because they're more or less pointless here. they serve no purpose other than to feed your delusion. not you're religious delusion, but the delusion that we, somehow, give a shit. you wanna argue? then argue. you wanna preach, then go away, because all it does is remind us why we DO NOT BELIEVE in your superstitions.
Why don't you leave religion alone. You'll get to hell soon enough without all this extra work that you do. It's not difficult to go to hell. Truly you don't need to do all this to get to hell.
@MsMommaRose Why are you so insecure. If what you believe really was true, you would totally ignore religion, not attack it. It is a sign that you are lost when you have to attack people for their beliefs. I couldn't care less what all the Muslims and others believe because I know the truth. If you were right, you would not care what those "crazy christians" believe. You will know you are wrong about 5 seconds after you die. It will go something like this, "Oh, Oh, not what I expected"
@lumphead85 Because delusional fools want their religious belief to be included in schools (creationism/design), feel this is a "christian" nation (see Treaty of Tripoli), and fly jets into towers (9/11). You are not content to suffer your delusion quietly.
@lumphead85 It's funny how you have no qualm with the idea of your fellow man being tortured for eternity simply because their beliefs vary even slightly from yours. You think a dehumanizing mindset like that doesn't have its consequences? If you can make the consequences disappear, I will leave religion alone.
@lumphead85 - And your claim is correct because? How do we know that you won't be eternally tickled by the Invisible Pink Unicorn when you die, rather than go to the judeo-christian version of heaven like you thought you would?
@lumphead85 Antitheists attack religions that try to force themselves into everyone and the government under the threat of "with us or with terrorists", while attacking simple and trivial things (like homosexuality, condoms and science). Why do antitheistic atheists never care about Buddhists (who bullshit nobody), yet become fully-fledged warriors when they discuss about Christian bullshitting on these things?
@11122233344455556 Simply because Christianity is the largest religion. Also, it has the most power. Finally, its dogmatic and ignorant views are accepted without question by the general populace (whereas everybody shakes his head and wags his finger at other radical religions such as Islam already). Atheists desire to change that.
@NDC1012 Well said. Atheists won't normally care about what's in anyone's brain. Our anger is due to the forced acceptance of ignorance and dogma by the religious to the entire world. Hence why you don't see atheists plotting revenge against those Buddhists who did almost nothing to make us angry.
I know fundamentalists, your list is way off. You seem to be combining some of the weird ideas of a lot of different religious groups who aren't fundies and attributing those ideas to them. Some of this is anti-Catholic, some is anti-dispensationalist, etc. Some is anti-calvanist. It's all over the map.
All over the map? Kind of like chrisitianity then? Well if the videomakers points are "invalidated" by being all over the map, I guess that pretty much bins christianity as there are some 30,000 different strains of it. Nice own goal.
@rohanwotan2 Sadley, the vast majority of "Christians" do not serve Jesus Christ. Despite that, there are faithful and obedient from every sect of Christianity because of their devotion to Jesus. The Holy Scriptures give testimony to a singular thruth, despite the 30,000 ways men decide to twist it to adhere to their lifestiles. This video is seriously uninformed however. Fundies are only 1 of the 30,000, but the attack is upon all. I do not defend the 30,000, only Christ.
Fundies are only 1 denomination of christianity? Are you kidding? There are easily two hundred types of baptists, just in North America, all of them pretty much fundies. If anyone was truly in touch with the creator of the universe there wouldn't be this many types of religion, let alone subsets of individual types of belief. Sorry Robert, but to this point, you're only digging deeper.
@rohanwotan2 Yes, you are right fundies are not just 1 of 30,000, but a sub-group of the 30,000. I should have been more careful in my earlier reply. And again, religion doesn't define being in touch with the Creator. The scriptures are testimonies from those who have witnessed something from Him. Yet these testimonies are twisted all over the place by men to satisfy their own wishes, especially if they have not known Him.
Religion most certainly does claim to be in communication with the creator of the universe. RCs believe a cracker quite literally becomes Jesus, who is god. Baptists speak in tongues possessed BY the holy spirit. The religious claim to be so clearly in touch with the creator that they have the "divine right" to tell others how to live. And if they AREN'T in communication with the creator, then there is no reason to listen to any of it.
@rohanwotan2 Again, the scriptures are the honest testimonies of men who have witnessed something from the creator, and thereby are instructional about the creator. I think you are misinterpretting the message. God has given an incredible message, which faithful men and women are sharing with the world. There is power in both the previously shared scriptures as well as life throught the Holy Spirit.
@RobertMOdell - You said in your earlier posts that the scriptures had been skewed and misinterpreted - which is absolutely correct. They've lost almost all of their original meaning - but now you're saying they mean something. Please make up your mind.
Further, the words of Jesus aren't a "testimony", he is alleged TO BE the creator of the universe giving direct instruction to humanity. Islam claims mohammed dealt directly with the creator and received his "enlightenment". Same for moses and judaism. But again, if religions ARE NOT in communication with the creator, exactly what do they base they authority to rule on any matter, moral, legal or otherwise?
@rohanwotan2 The words of Jesus are the words of God. However, Jesus didn't write the gospel books. They were written by men as a testimony to what they saw. In this manner, all books of the Bible are the same: Testimonies of many men on a wide variety of topics and time periods all relating revelation, direct witness, etc on what they experienced from God.
Sorry, Robert, but you seem to have missed the point. You alleged that religions don't claim to be in communication with the creator of the universe, when clearly they do. Unfortunatley, you don't seem to understand what religions are selling. Not just christianity - islam and judaism do the same. They purport to speak for a being that they have no way of knowing even exists. If the words of jesus in the bible aren't accurate, what use is it?
@rohanwotan2 What I am alleging is that religions aren't people. Only people can be in communication with a creator. Abstract systems of religious practice cannot be. Only the testimonies of those who have had direct access to the creator is worth anything so far as instructing others to acheive the same. People like Moses, Solomon, David, Paul, the Apostles, etc all qualify. Law courts convene to determine truth from contradicting witnesses, and so can anyone else.
Religions are made up of people and claim that their authority derives from communications from the creator. Do you think the pope would admit to NOT being communication with god? A televangelist? A holy roller? And yes, I for one can divine truth from contradicting claims. And the answer is they are all full of crap, none of them, people or religions have ever been in communication with a creator. And we all know why.
@RobertMOdell - "Abstract systems of religious practice cannot be". That includes yourself, you realise. You're ignoring what rohan is saying completely, he's saying that you're not the only one who believes that your version of a God speaks to you, and is trying to make you see that it is exactly the same situation.
@RobertMOdell - If you believe that fundamentalists don't fit the description the video provides, you clearly haven't seen a lot of fundamentalists. Just because you know a few fundies, doesn't mean all fundies are like the fundies you know.
You know your important to your drug dealer when you make videos like this.You know your life is pretty messed up when your only reason for living is mocking christions so you can be accepted by your manager at Mcdonalds
@TheGreaterSatan We Kalimites recommend LSD and methedrine, a.k.a., a "Pat Robertson" cocktail; if he goes out and has unprotected sex with a male hooker, that's a "Ted Haggard" cocktail!
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You might be wicked if you murder babies. Have perverted sex. Don't believe in God. You might be wicked if you hate the righteous and support all the evil. If someone is trying to save your soul are they really evil? Is it worth it for a little pleasure that leads to damnation? Don't follow selfish lusts, follow the only one that can save you from the flames of hell.
Coming from a person whose 2,000 year old tome says you can sell your teenage daughter as a sex slave, brutally slaughter towns that have only one sinner, or stone your disobedient child to death.
And, given all the contradictions in the Bible... getting to heaven is technically impossible if you thoroughly read the Bible.
christians don't follow Jesus, they follow Paul. Check out youtube user "Netwriter". He has a video called "Why there are no real christians" that explains it
I really like this video, sadly you could not get a fundie to sit through more than 5seconds of this. I will say most of what you mention I can agree with, but some of it I think is inaccurate. But, of course, that is the great thing about this country; we ARE allowed to disagree without being severly punished.
Fundie Christians:
There are so many people out there with different views & perspectives, you can't possibly change all of them; especially when you're forcing your beleifs on them.
You forgot a good one: You claim that evolution can't be true because life couldn't have evolved from rocks, but you believe that God made Adam from dirt.
Or similarly: You claim that the Big Bang Theory is false because the universe couldn't have come from nothing, but you believe in a god who created the universe from nothing.
Or still yet: You claim that creationism is true because the universe couldn't have just always existed and everything needs a creator, yet you believe that God always existed and didn't need to be created.
Heh, people say we are "manipulated by the Devil"...
Well, if God supposedly "hates" this murderous, evil entity... why was Satan created and planned to act as such, by this very God?
If God is omnipotent, he could change Satan and/or eradicate him from existence. But he doesn't. He supposedly "hates" Satan, but gladly tolerates him.
Who's more evil, the pawn (Satan)... or the mastermind (God)?
Nope, good sir, my parents were messed up and misled enough to instill a general sense of right and wrong. Something the fundies are a bit liberal with in their interpretation of the bible.
Kinda ironic, my mom believes in karma and my dad is agnostic. And I am agnostic... We tolerate other people and are generally nice people. According to the fundies, we're such sinful, evil bastards, lmao.
@MainHeretic wait God loves Satan he was once his favorite angel who made songs for God in the first place God never asked him to, but even when Satan became Satan God still loved him the same it was his sin that he hated
BOOM!! Except for one thing. The comment about Greek Gods is a misconception and one that I'm trying to clear up with Atheists (because they're the only ones with the brains to listen). The difference is NOT plot. The ancients had an entirely different set of fundamental assumptions about the universe. They were monists and didn't separate matter from spirit. These understandings about the universe was the underlying premise in the myths.
This is so true, great vid, i'll check out the link also, if chritians would be open minded enough and see how they contradict themselves, maybe we could all get along, and i'm not saying all christians, just the crazy ones.
Theres this church group who always comes by on Sunday to get my family to go to church... it's gotten so bad that I've stopped being polite in excusing myself from their lectures. I slam the door on them after explaining that "I have to study, Jesus compells me." ...and they still come by
I think my biggest problem with fundamentalist christians is that they get so worked up with the beginning and the end of things that they often neglect what should be a good message. don't kill people, don't persecute people, don't lie cheat or steal. pretty good stuff when you get down to it but they get so worked up about how the universe began and who told them how to live that they forget to act on the positive lessons.
I am an agnostic theist (I believe in a high power, just don't know what it is yet) an I find it hillarious that athiests know more about Christianity than Christians.
I liked the mentions of Greco/Roman Mythology as I wrote a paper on how the miracles in the New Testament were included because of how they had similarities to Greco Roman gods and demigods
@Null507 Along those lines, have you ever noticed how fundamentalist xtians purport to know more about Islam than Moslems, and, as well, they claim to know more about Torah than Jews? Of course, they will never consult an imam or a rabbi - they just know.
the best part is, this is chirstians getting pissed off because truth is knocking at their door, instead of them knocking at our door and trying to convert us(atheists, hindus jews....ah hell, anyone who doesn't go to their particular church) it happens at least twce a year somone knocks on my door telling me their church found the answer! LOL
since nothing will convince you otherwise SLAP THE CUFFS ON MY WRIST CAUSE IM GUILTY, (despite the fact that 99.10 % of what you said was either false, or a distortion of the truth
Hmm.. How is it that I'm a Christian and I can agree with the majority of the comments in the video? It's because the Atheist-hating Christian and the Christian-hating Atheist are almost identical.
The worst qualities from the worst followers of the religion are portrayed here. If I were to make a similar video about Atheism, the majority of Atheists would not identify with most of the stereotypical qualities contained in the video.
Not to bash on the creator; perhaps that is his purpose.
These are not the "worst qualities of the worst followers". Almost all of these things are the usual fare when it comes to fundamentalist Christians (unless you're implying that the fundamentalists are the worst of all Christians).
As for your comment about "Christian-hating atheists", I have to respectfully disagree. There are many organized conservative Christian groups dedicated to forcing religion in schools, homophobia, racism, and all-around limiting the freedoms of people who live their lives in a way these groups do not agree with. I can't think of any organized atheist groups who do anything that parallel these kinds of things.
Perhaps not organizations, but I know of many atheists that look down, unfairly, upon others for a belief in a Supreme Being in the same way that 'Christians' (if we can call them that) look down upon atheists for simply not believing in a Supreme Being.
And perhaps I am implying that fundies are the least Christian-like of all Christians :P I'm just saying that generalizations about both belief systems are not all-encompassing.
problem with 1:00. So envoking the name of God automatically makes one a Christian and demonstrates that whatever you ask for is in line with God's plan and represents Christianity. Here is the problem: there are too many Christian views as to the nature of Gd and prayer... who is right???
There is one thing I feel I should point out is wrong. At 2:30 you make the generalization that all atheists do not believe in good or evil. This is incorrect. While many (including me) do not believe in good or evil, there are those who do. Otherwise, Great video!
Thank you for pointing that out. I'm atheist, but still believe in "good" and "evil". I just believe them to be various actions or concepts rather than supernatural forces.
2. Talking to really weird fundamentalist Christians
Just one thing about the literal Bible "arguement" (5:05)- the Bible says the earth is round, and (to my knowledge) never says anything about the sun revolving around the earth.
It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions;......
that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions."
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison."
You can revise history all you like, but the facts show he did what he did for Jesus, not Darwin.
Personally I couldn't care less what Hitler believed in or didn't believe in, but liars need to be exposed, and nobody lies more about Hitler (among other things) than the fundamentalists.
Adolf Hitler was obsessed with eugenics, ethnic cleansing and scientific (including evolution) evidence to back his claims of a supreme aryan race. Adolf would've not been a big fan of Christ's message of creation and hope for anyone of any backround who followed him, since it obviously would have contradicted Hitler's goals of racial supremacy.
I have yet to see a single person provide evidence that Hitler used Darwin's theory of evolution (or any theory of evolution for that matter) to justify his actions. All I've seen are assertions, made by people that know very little, if anything, about either evolution or Hitler.
Hitler gave a wink-and-a-nod to religion, particulary the Roman Catholic and Lutheran churches, since they were an integral part of German culture and he needed to reach the common man to secure his rise to power.
To ctide: Psychologists define good mental health. Those are just three extremely general categories into which (I think) all people can be placed. People can of course be subcategorized from thereon, but seriously Atheists aren't staunchly opposed to ALL absolutes. For example, I think it is safe to assume that my physical form is that of a human, even if I'm not sure that the physical world isn't some grand illusion.
As a Catholic, some of these statements I believe, some of them I don't, and some of them I never even heard a fundamentalist say. But for shits and giggles, here are some "You might be a (Catholic) fundamentalist if"
-You excommunicate a 9-year-old girl for having an abortion, but have absolutely nothing to say (or have yet to say) about the adult that raped her.
-You consider abortion to be a great evil, yet you strongly supported Pinochet and Franco's reign of terror.
Religion isn't evil, it's really just a movement that can lead to people killing or prosecuting others out of ignorance (and not because they are evil). Atheists tend to oppose christianity because it seems to be a just thing to do, and I believe that ending people's belief in such religions would overall lead to a more just world.
Silly me. Here I thought religious people only taught two categories: Good and Evil, when really there is a third: Neutral!
No. Life is much more complicated than that, in case you haven't noticed yet.
Anyways, are you asking what standard I use to oppose religion? Simple: my own judgment. I see religion to be deadly at worst and a waste of time at best. And you can disagree with me because I'm not saying you have to live by my judgments.
I noticed that one threw some people off. I'll have to annotate that one. I was basically referring to the idea of absolute good or absolute evil. Christians believe good comes from God, and evil comes from Satan (who comes from God, by the way, go figure). However, atheists do not believe in either of these characters so we basically decide on our own what good and evil are, but your idea of "evil" might differ from my idea of it, so why bother using such absolute statements?
For instance, you might think eating meat is evil, while I see no problem with it. When you call something evil, you're basically assuming that your opinion is universally correct when there's no reason to think that it is. That's one of the biggest problems with religious fundamentalism in the first place.
I don't really believe in good vs. evil; I believe in smart decisions vs. stupid decisions, and even what I think is smart or stupid is also just my relative opinion.
Ok, I see where you're coming from: Fundmentalists would assume they have a basis for objective morality in God/scripture (which of course can be debated), but athiests don't claim the same basis. No doubt. Yet there are athiests who would be happy to use the words good and evil and to argue for a 'natural' (not supernatural) basis for them.
It is always human opinion, however, and maybe that's the point you're highlighting.
Murder can some times be when no other option is available e.g. if you attacked me and i feared for my life i would kill you.
Charity can wholly be sometimes either fraud or useless like feeding a man fish every day and never teaching him sharing the wealth is good but no one ever suggest they real solution sharing the employment.
This is a gray world black and white logic here is doomed to fail.
You have to consider why people murder in the first place. A large percentage of murderers are mentally ill. Does that make them evil? Many others had abusive parents and were not raised properly. Again, evil? Murder is tragic, not evil. Simply concluding that someone/something is "evil" is simple-minded and changes nothing, and it certainly doesn't prevent it from happening again. Learning and understanding just might, however.
The line has to be drawn somwhere because when it comes to murder, not only is the action unacceptable, but also the motives and philosophies behind it. Tragedy implies that the perpetrator/victim acted under extreme circumstances and (almost) had no control over it. So to simply dismiss murder as just "tragic" is to remove responsibility from the perpetrator altogether. That's why murder is "evil." Evil is not as simple as you think it is.
Yes through my empathy for other humans i would face pain and even death to prevent it from my fellow humans as i would hope other humans would do for me. I have come to accept that i will die and I believe i do not have a soul thus my two options for my continued existence is to both have a child and make my place in humanity to live on in memory.
At about 4:50 I'd like to add in this annotation 'You might be a fundamentalist if you rant & rave against welfare mothers having babies but when the government offers to pay for them to have early-term abortions you go to town hall meetings & scream over everyone else about how wrong that is.' :D
by the way the Satan that's controling you will also one day bow before Jesus and confess he is Lord. One day your going to be forced to confess it too, you can argue all you want, but you know it's true.
First off, that... "being forced to confess" sounds similar to being held up at gunpoint. Or fascism. Didn't Hitler do that?
And, I quote TheGreaterSatan as with this.
"You speak of Satan as a liar, murder, et cetera... as if that wasn't how your God INTENDED him to be."
So, in truth, God must tolerate Satan and made him evil (if he hated Satan and if it is within his power he would've eradicated Satan, no?). So, when you think about it, God is the true mastermind of this spiritual extortion.
I like the music. Good
shitthrowingmonkey1 4 weeks ago
I love Jesus and I love the Bible, and I love good honest discussion ! I have seen the Bible in a new light , and few have seen these things that I have seen. Send me a personal message on why or why not you want to believe Christianity, and I'll discuss, I love to discuss all things, as long as we can be friendly :)
TrunkMonkey3000 2 months ago
@TrunkMonkey3000 Shut up you fucking cunt. How's that?
fdasherv 1 month ago
@TheGreaterSatan
Love the video. As an Atheist I don't believe in good or evil- I'm an existential/moral nihilist.
sparta1236 7 months ago 2
I'm agnostic and I love this :-) I can't believe that I actually used to be a hardcore christian that couldn't even imagine not believing in a god. I've come a long way this past year and a half.
codeythesilent 9 months ago 5
@codeythesilent Amen, brother.
(Irony, don't you love it?)
HimesInu 7 months ago
haha, love 3:38
ddasr1701 9 months ago
hats off to you
akeakami2 9 months ago
Thanks for the video. I really appreciate my atheist friends. When I talk to them about their concepts of origin and energy, they often reaffirm and strengthen my faith far more than religious people. Christ’s message through the eyes an atheist can make a lot of sense. Love to you all as we struggle together for the truth.
jlukerandall 11 months ago
Hopefully one day Christians will realize the truth and escape their deluded thinking....until then.....we just have to the morons be morons.
AquariusLove100 11 months ago
@AquariusLove100 They will never give it up; they've been indoctrinated to believe it since they were infants. However, if we protect our children from the "evangelists" from birth, the christians will be gone by the time they have children of their own. Those children will be the saviors of our world.
NDC1012 8 months ago
this video is great
FuckYouJesusChrist1 11 months ago
LMAO-- great points -- all true. It's a shame though that most bible thumpers aren't literate enough to read all that you wrote or are so close minded that they will turn the video off without reading most of it.
EdgeOfDaCoin 11 months ago
christian bullshit priceless keep it up my atheist brothers.(000)
TheLovesoul1 1 year ago
excellent post by TGS, yet you can always be disappointed that some sheep will do all sorts of contortionist reasoning to prove there imaginary god\dog. 2011, time for the sheep to be herded into the pen of reason before some fundamentalist nutter gets his hands on some serious weaponary,as its quiet frighting in this day and age
kram83au 1 year ago
Atheists say WE believe in fairy tales?? You should do one about evolution. Get this. An evolutionist believes that if I put my lap top on the beach, given enough time, it will turn into a human!!!!! And YOU think talking snakes is ridiculous???
YesYou123333 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 I hope that was sarcasm. If not....what!? (Remember, Google is your friend, and all you need to do is write in the search box "Evolution", press enter and be edjucated. This goes to everyone...)
Arkticus 1 year ago
@Arkticus You don't think I've done that? Make sure you check out how easily Christians can rip evolution apart too.
YesYou123333 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 XD Yes, I've seen examples about this, and they all have two things in common. A) they do not undestand what evolution is and B) they do not understand science (sure, they'll use fancy titles, but even if started to call myself the Emperor of Rome, that doesn't change the fact that I'm not).
Arkticus 1 year ago
@YesYou123333 first off what is an evolutionist?are you a Jesusist?And I know of no person of science or with half a brain that thinks your lap top will turn into anything.You on the other hand think if you telapathically tell god to turn it into something he just might.and yes even small children think talking snakes are ridiculous.
alltiedup217 1 year ago
The biggest sign you're a Fundie is saying many times you're not, even if you DO say things like "h-e-double hockey stick" (really, saying 'hell' is no worse than saying 'Altoona' or "Runcorn') or "God gave you that cancer to show you the wickenedess of your ways"...
shmuli9 1 year ago
TRUE, soo true. Christians are just awful.
DarknessUnresolved 1 year ago
I agree with all of the points, except for one; Atheists absolutely DO recognize good and evil, we just don't consider it as coming from a divine source or superstition.
Impalamark64 1 year ago
The entire point of Christianity is that you have a choice whether or not to accept the fact that you're not perfect, and whether or not to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Virtually every other regime and belief system, whether religious or secular, does not, and particularly the governments constantly build to control you. How is being offered a choice to believe such a dangerous belief system?
Lachdenan 1 year ago
@Lachdenan When the choice is being blackmailed through being sent to a concentration camp for all eternity! Let's say Hitler gave the Nazis a choice, but if they did not worship Hitler they go to a concentration camp.
11122233344455556 9 months ago
What's the name of the song????? Please someone tell me!!!
MerlinaAddams1 1 year ago
Another one...
You say you believe in moral absolutes, yet believe your god can violate them anytime he wants and still be considered righteous and just.
RandomUTuber819 1 year ago
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RandomUTuber819 1 year ago
You use radical Islamic countries as models of moral societies and suggest we adopt their principles here, yet still call yourself a patriotic American.
You believe "and such were some of you" is scientific, irrefutable proof that homosexual orientation can be changed to heterosexual through prayer.
Upon learning of various instances of infant slaughter in the OT, you state God simply spared them a life of sin by killing them young, yet you think abortion is an intrinsic evil.
RandomUTuber819 1 year ago
@RandomUTuber819 Also, I have to mention that infant slaughter is not condoned anywhere in the Bible. Can you not scroll over two sentences and see that the individual doing the slaughtering "did evil in the sight of the Lord" or wrought wickedness, etc. etc. Just because something is mentioned doesn't mean it's advocated. I'm sure you have some other problem with Christianity, but it's ridiculous to lie to people's faces like that. Have fun trying to word-trap people to "prove" yourself.
Lachdenan 1 year ago
@Lachdenan Try reading Hosea chapters 9 and 13, particularly the endings. Also, Numbers 31 verse 17 is a good example.
RandomUTuber819 1 year ago
@RandomUTuber819 And what does killing the Council of Balaam prove? They were actively warring against the Hebrews and they were destroyed. This is not the same as convincing a mother to kill her own children. The notion that it is is a fallicious lie. That regards Numbers 31 17...the "good example."
Lachdenan 1 year ago
@Lachdenan So the children must be killed because they were decieved to trespass by the women? You still haven't got to why the slaughter mentioned in Hosea is okay.
RandomUTuber819 1 year ago
The problem with posting videos like this is that the act of recognizing an organization usually gives it legitimacy of sorts. If we all ignored them, no matter how obnoxious they got, they would stop being pests.
friedie1jeff 1 year ago
I personally think humanity is mature enough now to develop a system of morallity and ethics that is not enforced by some invisible force. It would be great if atheists could get together and develop a scientific systemized basis for understanding the why of the moralities that till now have mainly been enforced by religions.
adenjones1 1 year ago
@adenjones1 - The problem is not figuring out why religious morality was dominant, but to argue that secular morality does indeed exist, which plenty of naifs still refuse to believe.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
This is an awesome video! :D. Shame for those 63 people who don't know how to click a like button.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
Want to know another sign that you might be a fundamentalist christian?
Search a video called "christian war on children" and see if you're anything like the moron I argued with on there!
TheAlexander356 1 year ago
"You think Jesus was the greatest philosopher who ever lived, yet you ignore pretty much all his teachings" LOL
Sooooooo
Muuuuuuuuch
Wiiiiiiiin!!!!
vOddy75 1 year ago
Brilliant video :D
You should have added how Christians (from other videos) have said that if they were atheist, they would go around killing people... because they don't have god to fear.. So they would kill if they didn't fear their god....
Atheist don't kill, because it's wrong.
Christians are scary :( lol
queentrissa 1 year ago
yeah all that stuff is pretty much true i mean what are these people thinking maybe they drank jesus's "blood" and it turns out it was a mix of acid and crack or something. maybe thats why there minds are so out of wack.
LOCUSTHATER666 1 year ago
Err... 2:36: atheists most certainly do consider the concepts of "good" and "evil" to be valid concepts, just that we don't define them within the context of religion.
And at 3:46, communism is a secular religion. Marx even went so far as to insulate it from outside criticism by coming up with the idea of "polylogism", which states that logic works differently for different people (which would invalidate it's practice entirely, the intended effect). Hence "bourgeois logic".
GoblinKnightLeo 1 year ago
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entermyworld59 1 year ago
I think everyone knows how not to go to hell. It's called repentance. Then obey God. God has promised to punish or destroy everything and everyone who doesn't obey him. This is the word of the true and living God. I didn't make this up. It is not my idea. I get the same judgment as everyone else if I don't obey. People are so in love with their sin that they can't think straight.
lumphead85 1 year ago
@lumphead85 ok, im an atheist, and the only "sin" i have committed is blasphemy. so...... screw off with your overly simplified generalizations, because they're more or less pointless here. they serve no purpose other than to feed your delusion. not you're religious delusion, but the delusion that we, somehow, give a shit. you wanna argue? then argue. you wanna preach, then go away, because all it does is remind us why we DO NOT BELIEVE in your superstitions.
hawkeye40222 1 year ago
Great video! And to the comment bellow
mine. Why don't religion leave people alone?I will shut up only if they do!
xaviervonrottie 1 year ago
Why don't you leave religion alone. You'll get to hell soon enough without all this extra work that you do. It's not difficult to go to hell. Truly you don't need to do all this to get to hell.
lumphead85 1 year ago
@lumphead85 People like you are the reason atheists speak out. Your delusions are fouling the planet.
MsMommaRose 1 year ago 2
@MsMommaRose Why are you so insecure. If what you believe really was true, you would totally ignore religion, not attack it. It is a sign that you are lost when you have to attack people for their beliefs. I couldn't care less what all the Muslims and others believe because I know the truth. If you were right, you would not care what those "crazy christians" believe. You will know you are wrong about 5 seconds after you die. It will go something like this, "Oh, Oh, not what I expected"
lumphead85 1 year ago
@lumphead85 Because delusional fools want their religious belief to be included in schools (creationism/design), feel this is a "christian" nation (see Treaty of Tripoli), and fly jets into towers (9/11). You are not content to suffer your delusion quietly.
MsMommaRose 1 year ago
@lumphead85 It's funny how you have no qualm with the idea of your fellow man being tortured for eternity simply because their beliefs vary even slightly from yours. You think a dehumanizing mindset like that doesn't have its consequences? If you can make the consequences disappear, I will leave religion alone.
TheGreaterSatan 1 year ago 7
@lumphead85 - And your claim is correct because? How do we know that you won't be eternally tickled by the Invisible Pink Unicorn when you die, rather than go to the judeo-christian version of heaven like you thought you would?
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
@FibonaziProductions Not the tickling invisible pink unicorn, anything but that :)
adenjones1 1 year ago
@adenjones1 - Lol
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
@lumphead85 Antitheists attack religions that try to force themselves into everyone and the government under the threat of "with us or with terrorists", while attacking simple and trivial things (like homosexuality, condoms and science). Why do antitheistic atheists never care about Buddhists (who bullshit nobody), yet become fully-fledged warriors when they discuss about Christian bullshitting on these things?
11122233344455556 9 months ago
@11122233344455556 Simply because Christianity is the largest religion. Also, it has the most power. Finally, its dogmatic and ignorant views are accepted without question by the general populace (whereas everybody shakes his head and wags his finger at other radical religions such as Islam already). Atheists desire to change that.
NDC1012 8 months ago
@NDC1012 Well said. Atheists won't normally care about what's in anyone's brain. Our anger is due to the forced acceptance of ignorance and dogma by the religious to the entire world. Hence why you don't see atheists plotting revenge against those Buddhists who did almost nothing to make us angry.
11122233344455556 8 months ago
What's sad is that I used to be a christian, and I believed many of these things. Never again.
MetalMario03 1 year ago
I know fundamentalists, your list is way off. You seem to be combining some of the weird ideas of a lot of different religious groups who aren't fundies and attributing those ideas to them. Some of this is anti-Catholic, some is anti-dispensationalist, etc. Some is anti-calvanist. It's all over the map.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
All over the map? Kind of like chrisitianity then? Well if the videomakers points are "invalidated" by being all over the map, I guess that pretty much bins christianity as there are some 30,000 different strains of it. Nice own goal.
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@rohanwotan2 Sadley, the vast majority of "Christians" do not serve Jesus Christ. Despite that, there are faithful and obedient from every sect of Christianity because of their devotion to Jesus. The Holy Scriptures give testimony to a singular thruth, despite the 30,000 ways men decide to twist it to adhere to their lifestiles. This video is seriously uninformed however. Fundies are only 1 of the 30,000, but the attack is upon all. I do not defend the 30,000, only Christ.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
Fundies are only 1 denomination of christianity? Are you kidding? There are easily two hundred types of baptists, just in North America, all of them pretty much fundies. If anyone was truly in touch with the creator of the universe there wouldn't be this many types of religion, let alone subsets of individual types of belief. Sorry Robert, but to this point, you're only digging deeper.
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@rohanwotan2 Yes, you are right fundies are not just 1 of 30,000, but a sub-group of the 30,000. I should have been more careful in my earlier reply. And again, religion doesn't define being in touch with the Creator. The scriptures are testimonies from those who have witnessed something from Him. Yet these testimonies are twisted all over the place by men to satisfy their own wishes, especially if they have not known Him.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
Religion most certainly does claim to be in communication with the creator of the universe. RCs believe a cracker quite literally becomes Jesus, who is god. Baptists speak in tongues possessed BY the holy spirit. The religious claim to be so clearly in touch with the creator that they have the "divine right" to tell others how to live. And if they AREN'T in communication with the creator, then there is no reason to listen to any of it.
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@rohanwotan2 Again, the scriptures are the honest testimonies of men who have witnessed something from the creator, and thereby are instructional about the creator. I think you are misinterpretting the message. God has given an incredible message, which faithful men and women are sharing with the world. There is power in both the previously shared scriptures as well as life throught the Holy Spirit.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell - You said in your earlier posts that the scriptures had been skewed and misinterpreted - which is absolutely correct. They've lost almost all of their original meaning - but now you're saying they mean something. Please make up your mind.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
Further, the words of Jesus aren't a "testimony", he is alleged TO BE the creator of the universe giving direct instruction to humanity. Islam claims mohammed dealt directly with the creator and received his "enlightenment". Same for moses and judaism. But again, if religions ARE NOT in communication with the creator, exactly what do they base they authority to rule on any matter, moral, legal or otherwise?
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@rohanwotan2 The words of Jesus are the words of God. However, Jesus didn't write the gospel books. They were written by men as a testimony to what they saw. In this manner, all books of the Bible are the same: Testimonies of many men on a wide variety of topics and time periods all relating revelation, direct witness, etc on what they experienced from God.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
Sorry, Robert, but you seem to have missed the point. You alleged that religions don't claim to be in communication with the creator of the universe, when clearly they do. Unfortunatley, you don't seem to understand what religions are selling. Not just christianity - islam and judaism do the same. They purport to speak for a being that they have no way of knowing even exists. If the words of jesus in the bible aren't accurate, what use is it?
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@rohanwotan2 What I am alleging is that religions aren't people. Only people can be in communication with a creator. Abstract systems of religious practice cannot be. Only the testimonies of those who have had direct access to the creator is worth anything so far as instructing others to acheive the same. People like Moses, Solomon, David, Paul, the Apostles, etc all qualify. Law courts convene to determine truth from contradicting witnesses, and so can anyone else.
RobertMOdell 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell
Religions are made up of people and claim that their authority derives from communications from the creator. Do you think the pope would admit to NOT being communication with god? A televangelist? A holy roller? And yes, I for one can divine truth from contradicting claims. And the answer is they are all full of crap, none of them, people or religions have ever been in communication with a creator. And we all know why.
rohanwotan2 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell - "Abstract systems of religious practice cannot be". That includes yourself, you realise. You're ignoring what rohan is saying completely, he's saying that you're not the only one who believes that your version of a God speaks to you, and is trying to make you see that it is exactly the same situation.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
@RobertMOdell - If you believe that fundamentalists don't fit the description the video provides, you clearly haven't seen a lot of fundamentalists. Just because you know a few fundies, doesn't mean all fundies are like the fundies you know.
FibonaziProductions 1 year ago
JESUS PAID FOR OUR SINS now lets get our moneys worth
almostobliveus 1 year ago 2
nicely written and with reasonable claims :)
shukb84 1 year ago
3:30: Good point! They're all good, but that one is especially noteworthy.
JCLeSinge 1 year ago
btw, just so i dont get ppl answering me like i was trying to prove him right, I am an atheïst and i love ur video, i hope there will be more
electroforce2 1 year ago
@ kenny662 "The soul essence of one being a Christian is believing in the teachings of Jesus.
So, I say to you, how can one be a Christian fundamentalist if he/she is ignoring it. It doesn't make sense."
Exactly! :D
electroforce2 1 year ago 2
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You know your important to your drug dealer when you make videos like this.You know your life is pretty messed up when your only reason for living is mocking christions so you can be accepted by your manager at Mcdonalds
polopowers1 1 year ago
Next time you come in, I'm putting acid in your big mac.
TheGreaterSatan 1 year ago 10
@TheGreaterSatan NOOOOOOO not my big mac!!! It will taste aweful with acid :'(...
dmndd 1 year ago
@dmndd or would it taste better?
TheHomelessCripple 1 year ago
@TheHomelessCripple hmmm. interesting.... lets try it out! You grab a Fundamentalist and i will grab the burger.
dmndd 1 year ago
@TheGreaterSatan We Kalimites recommend LSD and methedrine, a.k.a., a "Pat Robertson" cocktail; if he goes out and has unprotected sex with a male hooker, that's a "Ted Haggard" cocktail!
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago
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You might be wicked if you murder babies. Have perverted sex. Don't believe in God. You might be wicked if you hate the righteous and support all the evil. If someone is trying to save your soul are they really evil? Is it worth it for a little pleasure that leads to damnation? Don't follow selfish lusts, follow the only one that can save you from the flames of hell.
MotionFrequency 1 year ago
I am more moral than your vile, imaginary friend.
trueleroix 1 year ago 3
@MotionFrequency
Coming from a person whose 2,000 year old tome says you can sell your teenage daughter as a sex slave, brutally slaughter towns that have only one sinner, or stone your disobedient child to death.
And, given all the contradictions in the Bible... getting to heaven is technically impossible if you thoroughly read the Bible.
MainHeretic 1 year ago
I had to stop this video after the statement of ignoring Jesus's teachings...
The soul essence of one being a Christian is believing in the teachings of Jesus.
So, I say to you, how can one be a Christian fundamentalist if he/she is ignoring it. It doesn't make sense.
kenny662 1 year ago
christians don't follow Jesus, they follow Paul. Check out youtube user "Netwriter". He has a video called "Why there are no real christians" that explains it
klaron0 1 year ago 2
I really like this video, sadly you could not get a fundie to sit through more than 5seconds of this. I will say most of what you mention I can agree with, but some of it I think is inaccurate. But, of course, that is the great thing about this country; we ARE allowed to disagree without being severly punished.
Fundie Christians:
There are so many people out there with different views & perspectives, you can't possibly change all of them; especially when you're forcing your beleifs on them.
ChristianGuy32 1 year ago
rofl! this is great!! and sadly it´s also true...
IstalkBananas 1 year ago
You forgot a good one: You claim that evolution can't be true because life couldn't have evolved from rocks, but you believe that God made Adam from dirt.
Or similarly: You claim that the Big Bang Theory is false because the universe couldn't have come from nothing, but you believe in a god who created the universe from nothing.
n2uhc 2 years ago
Well the first one has a loophole: "God can do whatever he wants!!11"
And yes, the second one is definitely something I wish I thought of at the time.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Sorry, I misread your second one. I thought it said "you believe in a god who created himself from nothing."
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Or still yet: You claim that creationism is true because the universe couldn't have just always existed and everything needs a creator, yet you believe that God always existed and didn't need to be created.
n2uhc 2 years ago
Heh, people say we are "manipulated by the Devil"...
Well, if God supposedly "hates" this murderous, evil entity... why was Satan created and planned to act as such, by this very God?
If God is omnipotent, he could change Satan and/or eradicate him from existence. But he doesn't. He supposedly "hates" Satan, but gladly tolerates him.
Who's more evil, the pawn (Satan)... or the mastermind (God)?
MainHeretic 2 years ago 12
You're just misled, you see: any loving parent will voluntarily leave his/her child alone with a murderous child molester from time to time.
What...your parents never did that?
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago 16
@TheGreaterSatan
Nope, good sir, my parents were messed up and misled enough to instill a general sense of right and wrong. Something the fundies are a bit liberal with in their interpretation of the bible.
Kinda ironic, my mom believes in karma and my dad is agnostic. And I am agnostic... We tolerate other people and are generally nice people. According to the fundies, we're such sinful, evil bastards, lmao.
MainHeretic 2 years ago
@MainHeretic wait God loves Satan he was once his favorite angel who made songs for God in the first place God never asked him to, but even when Satan became Satan God still loved him the same it was his sin that he hated
Entertainment3210 5 months ago
@Entertainment3210 Do you know the first thing about how screwed the choirs of angels are? Can you tell me what cherebim are for example?
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PURE BRILLIANCE.
mcelsner 2 years ago
"When debating you use bible verses as if they prove anything" ...That's so annoying!
edfuse 2 years ago
BOOM!! Except for one thing. The comment about Greek Gods is a misconception and one that I'm trying to clear up with Atheists (because they're the only ones with the brains to listen). The difference is NOT plot. The ancients had an entirely different set of fundamental assumptions about the universe. They were monists and didn't separate matter from spirit. These understandings about the universe was the underlying premise in the myths.
DarkArckana 2 years ago
This is so true, great vid, i'll check out the link also, if chritians would be open minded enough and see how they contradict themselves, maybe we could all get along, and i'm not saying all christians, just the crazy ones.
LordRadu 2 years ago 2
Theres this church group who always comes by on Sunday to get my family to go to church... it's gotten so bad that I've stopped being polite in excusing myself from their lectures. I slam the door on them after explaining that "I have to study, Jesus compells me." ...and they still come by
ADmissive 2 years ago
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Dang, canadians are so stupid.
Smetch 2 years ago
Care to elaborate, or are you the stupid one?
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
it's really stupid
Smetch 2 years ago
666 ratings lmfao
diddykongfu 2 years ago 12
Cool vid. Loved the text; hated the shitty music.
DeathToAllReligions 2 years ago 2
I think my biggest problem with fundamentalist christians is that they get so worked up with the beginning and the end of things that they often neglect what should be a good message. don't kill people, don't persecute people, don't lie cheat or steal. pretty good stuff when you get down to it but they get so worked up about how the universe began and who told them how to live that they forget to act on the positive lessons.
Null507 2 years ago
At least you added fundamentalist to the title...that changes everything.
cymbeli 2 years ago
I am an agnostic theist (I believe in a high power, just don't know what it is yet) an I find it hillarious that athiests know more about Christianity than Christians.
I liked the mentions of Greco/Roman Mythology as I wrote a paper on how the miracles in the New Testament were included because of how they had similarities to Greco Roman gods and demigods
Null507 2 years ago 17
@Null507 Don't forget the Egyptians and the Persians! The Persian-Roman God, Mitra, was a MAJOR influence on early Christianity.
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago
@Null507 Along those lines, have you ever noticed how fundamentalist xtians purport to know more about Islam than Moslems, and, as well, they claim to know more about Torah than Jews? Of course, they will never consult an imam or a rabbi - they just know.
friedie1jeff 1 year ago
the best part is, this is chirstians getting pissed off because truth is knocking at their door, instead of them knocking at our door and trying to convert us(atheists, hindus jews....ah hell, anyone who doesn't go to their particular church) it happens at least twce a year somone knocks on my door telling me their church found the answer! LOL
larsjake 2 years ago 2
since nothing will convince you otherwise SLAP THE CUFFS ON MY WRIST CAUSE IM GUILTY, (despite the fact that 99.10 % of what you said was either false, or a distortion of the truth
kingjamesonly 2 years ago
Hmm.. How is it that I'm a Christian and I can agree with the majority of the comments in the video? It's because the Atheist-hating Christian and the Christian-hating Atheist are almost identical.
The worst qualities from the worst followers of the religion are portrayed here. If I were to make a similar video about Atheism, the majority of Atheists would not identify with most of the stereotypical qualities contained in the video.
Not to bash on the creator; perhaps that is his purpose.
RageInfectedSquirrel 2 years ago
These are not the "worst qualities of the worst followers". Almost all of these things are the usual fare when it comes to fundamentalist Christians (unless you're implying that the fundamentalists are the worst of all Christians).
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
As for your comment about "Christian-hating atheists", I have to respectfully disagree. There are many organized conservative Christian groups dedicated to forcing religion in schools, homophobia, racism, and all-around limiting the freedoms of people who live their lives in a way these groups do not agree with. I can't think of any organized atheist groups who do anything that parallel these kinds of things.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Perhaps not organizations, but I know of many atheists that look down, unfairly, upon others for a belief in a Supreme Being in the same way that 'Christians' (if we can call them that) look down upon atheists for simply not believing in a Supreme Being.
And perhaps I am implying that fundies are the least Christian-like of all Christians :P I'm just saying that generalizations about both belief systems are not all-encompassing.
RageInfectedSquirrel 2 years ago
problem with 1:00. So envoking the name of God automatically makes one a Christian and demonstrates that whatever you ask for is in line with God's plan and represents Christianity. Here is the problem: there are too many Christian views as to the nature of Gd and prayer... who is right???
cheesemonkey1990 2 years ago
Damn, you are going to burn in HELL !! Now do one about Muslims.
Christian fundamentalists don't bother me too much. The most they do is nag, yell shout and the occasional murder of an abortion doctor.
Ahh, but the Muslim Fundamentalist, they will behead you for a video like this. They take the fun out of fundamental.
I dare you - do one on them.
queue3 2 years ago
There is one thing I feel I should point out is wrong. At 2:30 you make the generalization that all atheists do not believe in good or evil. This is incorrect. While many (including me) do not believe in good or evil, there are those who do. Otherwise, Great video!
RuskePerson 2 years ago
Thank you for pointing that out. I'm atheist, but still believe in "good" and "evil". I just believe them to be various actions or concepts rather than supernatural forces.
hike132 2 years ago
Christianity is my REligion,Evolutionism is a good theoty yet sceptico-scientifically questionable.
Ancient religions had other Gods.
My preachers are engineers and doctors.
The gay agenda is an agenda.
Archeological stuff prove ancient Civilization...
Off course I won't vote a muslim or Fundamentalist atheist.
Sorry about you folks, burn in Hell :P
BARACKOODA 2 years ago
*sigh...*
All of these arguments either stem from:
1. A misunderstanding of Christianity/the Bible
2. Talking to really weird fundamentalist Christians
Just one thing about the literal Bible "arguement" (5:05)- the Bible says the earth is round, and (to my knowledge) never says anything about the sun revolving around the earth.
LocutusofBorg013 2 years ago 2
Exodus 10:15 and Psalm 104:5 and Deuteronomy 13:7, 28:49, 28:64, 33:17. Job 2:8, 19:4, 22:27, 33:13, 48:10, 59:13, 61:2, 65:5, 72:8. Say the Earth is Flat.
Job 38:4, 38:6, Psalms 93:1, and Isaiah 24:18 say the Earth doesn't move at all, and is stationary.
Isaiah 13:10 states that the moon is just like the sun, but got didn't permit it to shine light.
Job 38:22 and Genesis 1:16 state that the sun revolves around the stationary earth.
Any questions?
Evanwebster 2 years ago
What is this song???
ajohn1511 2 years ago
It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions;......
ctidemusic 2 years ago
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that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions."
ctidemusic 2 years ago
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ctidemusic 2 years ago
Hitler was a social darwinist who said Christianity was a mistake made by the Jews.
virtuousvoice 2 years ago
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison."
- Adolf Hitler, 1927 speech
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
You can revise history all you like, but the facts show he did what he did for Jesus, not Darwin.
Personally I couldn't care less what Hitler believed in or didn't believe in, but liars need to be exposed, and nobody lies more about Hitler (among other things) than the fundamentalists.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Adolf Hitler was obsessed with eugenics, ethnic cleansing and scientific (including evolution) evidence to back his claims of a supreme aryan race. Adolf would've not been a big fan of Christ's message of creation and hope for anyone of any backround who followed him, since it obviously would have contradicted Hitler's goals of racial supremacy.
virtuousvoice 2 years ago
I have yet to see a single person provide evidence that Hitler used Darwin's theory of evolution (or any theory of evolution for that matter) to justify his actions. All I've seen are assertions, made by people that know very little, if anything, about either evolution or Hitler.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Hitler gave a wink-and-a-nod to religion, particulary the Roman Catholic and Lutheran churches, since they were an integral part of German culture and he needed to reach the common man to secure his rise to power.
virtuousvoice 2 years ago
4:07 and favorited 5 stars
ShrapnelSong 2 years ago
excellent points rainsed in this video :)
darklight1963 2 years ago
And you wonder...why some people are going to hell in a hand basket? Jesus Christ is the way.
born2inform 2 years ago
1:25 pretty much sums it up.
kaysandesses 2 years ago
Awesome video, 5 stars and favorited.
MoralAtheist1 2 years ago 2
To ctide: Psychologists define good mental health. Those are just three extremely general categories into which (I think) all people can be placed. People can of course be subcategorized from thereon, but seriously Atheists aren't staunchly opposed to ALL absolutes. For example, I think it is safe to assume that my physical form is that of a human, even if I'm not sure that the physical world isn't some grand illusion.
losername2of2 2 years ago
As a Catholic, some of these statements I believe, some of them I don't, and some of them I never even heard a fundamentalist say. But for shits and giggles, here are some "You might be a (Catholic) fundamentalist if"
-You excommunicate a 9-year-old girl for having an abortion, but have absolutely nothing to say (or have yet to say) about the adult that raped her.
-You consider abortion to be a great evil, yet you strongly supported Pinochet and Franco's reign of terror.
sdcazares1980 2 years ago
if atheists don't believe in "good or evil", why oppose Christianity? What can you appeal to in order to oppose Religion if everything is neutral?
ctidemusic 2 years ago
Religion isn't evil, it's really just a movement that can lead to people killing or prosecuting others out of ignorance (and not because they are evil). Atheists tend to oppose christianity because it seems to be a just thing to do, and I believe that ending people's belief in such religions would overall lead to a more just world.
losername2of2 2 years ago
But what is "more just"?
ctidemusic 2 years ago
So essentially, I don't believe in evil. I believe ignorance, mental sickness, and good mental health.
losername2of2 2 years ago
What is "good" mental health? Who defines what is a better mental health state?
Ultimately, if you oppose absolutes, you must opposed being absolute on your non-absolutism stance.
ctidemusic 2 years ago
Silly me. Here I thought religious people only taught two categories: Good and Evil, when really there is a third: Neutral!
No. Life is much more complicated than that, in case you haven't noticed yet.
Anyways, are you asking what standard I use to oppose religion? Simple: my own judgment. I see religion to be deadly at worst and a waste of time at best. And you can disagree with me because I'm not saying you have to live by my judgments.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
interesting list
one little point: 'athiests don't believe in good and evil' (2:32) sounds odd to me. Atheism doesn't have any necessary moral belief built into it.
bob80108 2 years ago
I noticed that one threw some people off. I'll have to annotate that one. I was basically referring to the idea of absolute good or absolute evil. Christians believe good comes from God, and evil comes from Satan (who comes from God, by the way, go figure). However, atheists do not believe in either of these characters so we basically decide on our own what good and evil are, but your idea of "evil" might differ from my idea of it, so why bother using such absolute statements?
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
For instance, you might think eating meat is evil, while I see no problem with it. When you call something evil, you're basically assuming that your opinion is universally correct when there's no reason to think that it is. That's one of the biggest problems with religious fundamentalism in the first place.
I don't really believe in good vs. evil; I believe in smart decisions vs. stupid decisions, and even what I think is smart or stupid is also just my relative opinion.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
Ok, I see where you're coming from: Fundmentalists would assume they have a basis for objective morality in God/scripture (which of course can be debated), but athiests don't claim the same basis. No doubt. Yet there are athiests who would be happy to use the words good and evil and to argue for a 'natural' (not supernatural) basis for them.
It is always human opinion, however, and maybe that's the point you're highlighting.
bob80108 2 years ago
What about murder? Would you call it evil?
What about charity? Would you consider it good?
sdcazares1980 2 years ago
Murder can some times be when no other option is available e.g. if you attacked me and i feared for my life i would kill you.
Charity can wholly be sometimes either fraud or useless like feeding a man fish every day and never teaching him sharing the wealth is good but no one ever suggest they real solution sharing the employment.
This is a gray world black and white logic here is doomed to fail.
whydid666 2 years ago
Then that's not murder. That's self-defense. Murder implies unlawful killing, such as intentionally killing an innocent person.
You're probably right on the charity part.
sdcazares1980 2 years ago
You have to consider why people murder in the first place. A large percentage of murderers are mentally ill. Does that make them evil? Many others had abusive parents and were not raised properly. Again, evil? Murder is tragic, not evil. Simply concluding that someone/something is "evil" is simple-minded and changes nothing, and it certainly doesn't prevent it from happening again. Learning and understanding just might, however.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
The line has to be drawn somwhere because when it comes to murder, not only is the action unacceptable, but also the motives and philosophies behind it. Tragedy implies that the perpetrator/victim acted under extreme circumstances and (almost) had no control over it. So to simply dismiss murder as just "tragic" is to remove responsibility from the perpetrator altogether. That's why murder is "evil." Evil is not as simple as you think it is.
sdcazares1980 2 years ago
But arent you "assuming that your opinion is universally corrent" with this comment:
"That's one of the biggest problems with religious fundamentalism in the first place."
You have a fundimental problem with fundamentalism, it's a self defeating argument. You can oppose absolutism, there is nothing to oppose it with.
ctidemusic 2 years ago
We believe in Evolution and built in empathy and social urges we naturally have we believe in this because it allows us a species to survive.
whydid666 2 years ago
Why be concernd with survival as a species?
ctidemusic 2 years ago
Because i am selfish and enjoy living and wish to continue to do, so by helping others who in turn help me i am promoting my own survival....
...giving truly is the most selfish thing one can do.
whydid666 2 years ago
Do you have any emotion of strong enough that would cause you to sacrifice your life for another?
ctidemusic 2 years ago
Yes through my empathy for other humans i would face pain and even death to prevent it from my fellow humans as i would hope other humans would do for me. I have come to accept that i will die and I believe i do not have a soul thus my two options for my continued existence is to both have a child and make my place in humanity to live on in memory.
whydid666 2 years ago
Hehe... love this vid.
At about 4:50 I'd like to add in this annotation 'You might be a fundamentalist if you rant & rave against welfare mothers having babies but when the government offers to pay for them to have early-term abortions you go to town hall meetings & scream over everyone else about how wrong that is.' :D
CO2Junkie 2 years ago
by the way the Satan that's controling you will also one day bow before Jesus and confess he is Lord. One day your going to be forced to confess it too, you can argue all you want, but you know it's true.
guitarmaverick21 2 years ago
Well, so much for this "free will" idea theists love to push.
TheGreaterSatan 2 years ago
First off, that... "being forced to confess" sounds similar to being held up at gunpoint. Or fascism. Didn't Hitler do that?
And, I quote TheGreaterSatan as with this.
"You speak of Satan as a liar, murder, et cetera... as if that wasn't how your God INTENDED him to be."
So, in truth, God must tolerate Satan and made him evil (if he hated Satan and if it is within his power he would've eradicated Satan, no?). So, when you think about it, God is the true mastermind of this spiritual extortion.
MainHeretic 2 years ago
Great Video!
FightsWithPreachers 2 years ago