And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
@MastaaAce I am confused right now you need to be more direct with your questions. What exactly is the one question you want me to answer? Just type it without all the extra words of pride associated with it
@SenorZacito I said it 29 times. Here it is again : would you let your daughter read how Lot fucks his daughters u sick piece of shit? And how David commits adultery and then kills the woman's husband? And how Judah fucks his daughter in law and these incestuous children, according to the bible, are the great grandfathers of your god Jesus Christ? And how when your mother saves your fathers life you have to chop off her hands?
Plus the good stuff from Ezekiel 23 about genitals like donkeys.
@MastaaAce03 My brother in the almighty I will pray that you will get the hate out of your heart, but I understand it is hard to when the Qur'an teaches you to treat Christians as second class citizens. The actions of these people in the old testament are not due to what god commands them to do. These people are sinners and it is showing their sins. Just like Adam disobeyed God. God did not command him to disobey him. Now please help my confusion about the historical errors in the Qur'an
@SenorZacito Yes, keep ignoring my question you devil!! Better run, kid.
Disgusting to your own religion, how can you be ashamed of what you claim is the word of God??
Disgusting. Answer the question if you are a true Christian!!!! Stand up for the Bible!! Come on you are getting slaughtered out here, but you should thank HSD for changing subject back and saving your butt! But d/w i'll get back to you soon kiddo.
AHA! It is Ezekiel 23, this is some twisted shit if i may say so myself.
3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed
20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[c]
@MastaaAce03 WHAT is this BS? HAHAH For a person who really knows the BIBLE. All O.T. is only HISTORY! That was how the world was on those times. But, we don' do nothing like they used to do now a days. Unlike ure evil book tells U to do, so U guys still do it! hahah We don' slay animals to be forgiven and start all over. We don' marry young ladies like they used to do..BUT U,,DO.. even have an evil law about it!Made by "pedophiles'. K'MON..THE BIBLE NEEDS A "KEY" TO UNDERSTAND IT. DO U HAVE IT?
@MastaaAce03 I told you Catholic church (which preserved the bible) does not have our young children memorize the bible. These subjects are not what we teach they are theological examples all explaining different aspects of life. The prophets of the old testament were sinners. The Vatican has the original bible. Here is the original language "οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ "ἀπόληται ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον"How is it corrupt?
@SenorZacito Im back baby. What is your response? Lets get this over with so i can smoke you on your alleged contradictions and errors in Quran, insha Allah.
@MasraaAce03 My brother in the almighty can you explain to me how the prophet Mohammad had God talk to him when he makes an historical fallacy. In Sura 19:28, Mary, the mother of Jesus, is said to be the sister of Aaron and Moses and the daughter of Amram (Sura 66:12). However, Jesus was not born for another 1400 years after Moses! It is clear that Muhammad confused Miriam, the sister of Moses, with Mary the mother of Jesus and wife of Joseph. Can you please help me with my confusion brother.
I love the reference which Muslims give to the Blessed Mother in the Qur'an, the only woman mentioned in the Qur'an by name. Islam gives credit to the virgin birth of the Jesus. I respect the 5 times a day prayer which we have in the Christian-Catholic church. I respect the Muslim women who cover themselves willing so they are not objectified by men. However, the only problem I have is with the historical fallacies in the Qur'an. How can I believe this is true when it makes historical mistakes?
@MastaaAce03 My brother in the almighty get the hate of Satan out of your heart. You have to understand that Catholics (who preserved the bible) do not have our children memorize it like you do with the Qur'an. Since you have your children memorize the Qur'an I am concerned for your women. The Qur'an states the gospel and torah are true in Surah 5:46. If the Qur'an is the truth then why does it make so many historical fallacies?
@SenorZacito Listen kid. This is just as i expected from a snake Christian who follows his bible and tries to be "wise as serpents" - slick like snakes, as it says. And for your comments b4, i was in this cult too once but finally opened my eyes to this garbage, how can i accept Bible to be a Book of God when it's 1/3 porn?
Funny how you did not respond to my question, hahahaaha.
Yes, even Muslim CHILDREN memorize Quran, SubhanAllah!! That is so beautiful.
@SenorZacito Look at this typical christian tactics, everyone should take note. When they are getting smoked on one subject they change it quick and make false accusations.
So now that we agree Jesus did not abolish the Law, good stuff that's 1/1.
U are a fool. Learn some basic knowledge about Islam and then come here....
Muslims believe in the Torah, and Gospel of Jesus, but the present "Bible" is corrupted.
How can something be word of God with so many mistakes?? No, Exalted is He from that
@SenorZacito So back to the question, would you read all those porn scenes to your mother, sister, daughter? And there's another that is SO EXPLICIT in Ezekiel, i shall find it for you!
@MastaaAce03 I DO.. AND EXPLAIN IT IN DETAILS!! Would U teach ure kid,,how to blow "himself" out, hate people, kill people and more, for no right reason when his.[er] mentality is still developing? Just remember what they used to do in kabba? They went naked and have sex on that place. Have U noticed that moha"mad" was always "clean" by allah when doing "sexual, criminal acts"? Did U read that He asked his donkey about ,what "he" think about woman?? hahahaha Just a total pervert and sick guy.!
@demetrixxxable No, i would not teach my kid how to blow himself up, hate ppl, kill ppl and more for no right reason.
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What do you want from me you lunatic!? Stop deterring the conversations when i am destroying your fellow cultists. The fact is you need to follow the Law b/c Jesus said he did NOT come to abolish it. And if you abolish it (as you have done now) you are basically lawless! You have no system! No rules! Cant you see something wrong here? i'm sure holyspiritdove can, hahaha.
@MastaaAce03 Cuz u r a "RETARD"..U need to understand that U might know what it says..BUT NOT..WHAT IT MEANS!! COMPRENDO??? JESUS came to fullfilled the prophecy, not to change THE LAW..cuz is STILL THERE!! IS WHAT U LIVE UNDER IT! AND U R NOT DESTROYING ANYBODY..U CAN' DO ME NO HARM. U still holdin in ure back the "big ten"..hahah JESUS CHANGED ALL THAT..BUT IF U REALLY TRUST ON WHAT HE CAME TO DO..AND NOT WHAT "U" DO...COMPRENDO RETARD?? HAHAHA
@demetrixxxable ??? Are you confused my son? U seem to be getting some whispers from the jinn or something, get that checked out asap.
So you are telling me that the Law of the OT still applies to Christians today? Think about this for a second, because this is exactly the opposite of what your friend holyspiritdove was saying. Am i right or wrong, do you believe the OT Law still applies to you or no?
@MastaaAce03 HAHAHA..APLIES TO EVERYBODY..!! U R DEAD SPIRITUALLY!! NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION OR "PHILOSOPHY" U FOLLOW. The law was made to show U your "sinful" life. Nobody is born "ALIVE..SPIRITUALLY"!! Adan was the 1st..and the 2nd was JESUS.. SO THE WHOLE WORLD IS UNDER CONDEMNATION.. NO MATTER WHAT U DO! SOMETHING URE EVIL BOOK HAS TWISTED ALL THE WAY..THEY SAID THERE'S NO ORIGINAL "SIN"..SO,,WHERE DID U COME UP WITH "PARADISE"?? AND ADAN WAS A "PROPHET"? WHAT'S HIS PROPHECY?
@MastaaAce03 Is cuz U r not that "smart" is all over.. !! U guys think really got an understanding on the things of GOD.. but,,"ure god"..CAN NOT GIVE YOU WISDOM AT ALL.. HE WANTS TO KILL YOU NO MATTER WHO U R..OR WHAT U DO! THE LAW OF MOSES IS STILL THERE..BUT JESUS BROUGHT SOMETHING WAY BETTER,,Y? CUZ we never gonna be able to follow all those rules and laws. Specially U guys that r taught to hate and kill.. WHEN THE HECK R U GONNA MAKE IT? NNNNEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!
@demetrixxxable So, from this childish writing i think i managed to pick out the answer. You are saying we DONT have to follow the Law, correct?
If so then what do you about ALLL the things not mentioned in your "new" Law. What is your new law anyway, just some writings of Paul?
What is your divine new law that Jesus brought about punishments for apostasy, inheritance laws, punishments for homos, etc? Paul did indeed modify SOME laws but what about the other 80% left untouched?
@demetrixxxable In some religions a man is allowed to marry his sister's daughter. (Uncle and niece). If a man from this religion converted to Christianity, would he be allowed under your new law to marry his niece? This is forbidden in OT and Islam. What about in your new law?
What is punishment for brother sister marriage? What are the rulings on all these things NOT mentioned in your new law? What do you do concerning them?
@demetrixxxable Did i ask you that? I asked you to give me the ruling from your "New Law" and a reference to it. Plus i wouldn't go around saying stupid religions allow that since i think your New Law allows it too.
But it seems your condition is improving, you are not writing like psychopath anymore..
@MastaaAce03 And then ure evil book says Ismael was also a prophet,,but.. where are they "prophecies"? They made all this bs up to make U think.. THAT U NEED NO SPIRITUAL LIFE TO ENTER THE HOLY PLACE WHERE JESUS GOD IS RIGHT NOW. AND JUST GOD,,IF U ASK HIM,,"HE" CAN JUST FORGIVE YOU..HAAH..HOW "HE" CAN FORGIVE YOU,,IF U GOT NO SPIRITUAL LIFE 1ST? That's why r so many religions talking about "spirituality" all over the world.. but.. NO ONE,,HAS IT!! WE R GOING TO A SPIRITUAL WORLD.NO HUMAN LIKE
@demetrixxxable O BTW, if you believe you have "proof" Quran or Islam is wrong, PM with this so called proof and i shall answer every alleged error and contradiction, insha Allah.
@MastaaAce03 Hey is very simple.. NO GOD, WHO IS ALL MIGHTY AND POWERFUL. WOUNDLN' HAVE THE POWER TO BE HERE AN ALL OVER IN THE UNIVERSE AT THE SAME TIME IN DIFFERENT PLACES!!! AND MY GOD.. HAS THAT AND WAY MOREEEEEE!!! BUT YOUR "GOD" SEEMS TO BE "LIMITED"..UUMMM POOR 'allah"!! hahah. what's your QUESTION?
@demetrixxxable ??? Are you on crack man!?!?! Begone devils who are possessing this poor confused soul!! They clouded your mind so much that you don't even know what i asked you...
May Allah guide you and free you from the grasp of the shaytaan so that you may see the Truth.
Anyways, when your devils relax the grip on you, answer this:
What does ur divine new law that Jesus brought say about punishments for apostasy, inheritance laws, punishments for homos, etc? and Uncle + Niece thing also
@MastaaAce03 Well, after ure lil mind can comprehend what I 'm telling U all the way along. U can stop and think.. WHAT'S THIS NEW LAW? It only tells U that no matter what U do.. U ALWAYS GONNA MESS UP.. SIN, F-UP AND MORE.. No matter what U do or "stop" doing.. U R NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO show ure face in front of GOD and say.. look GOD.,,I DIDN' NEED JESUS OR WHAT HAVE U.. I'M HERE WITH ALL MY EFFORT!! HAHAHAHA TAKE ME TO YOUR "PLACE".. CUZ I REALLY WORKED HARD 4 IT!!
@MastaaAce03 Something that it takes time to really understand.. Everyone is under condemnation. NO MATTER WHAT U DO.. U STILL LIVING UNDER THE "LAW OF MOSES"..WHICH MEANS...DEAD!! SATAN IS THERE TO FOOL YOU..CUZ THAT'S WHAT HE DOES BETTER... Something ure evil book can not tell you.!!
@demetrixxxable Gimmie Laws from your "New Law" on the punishment for apostasy, inheritance laws, incest marriages, Uncle+Niece thing.
If you do not have these then your way of life is useless. What is the purpose of this?? How can you establish a society on this?? No divine laws on these subjects to govern you means everyone can do what they want and it would be legal in Christianity. How would you split inheritance? The way God told you or man?? omgosh.. Are you serious??
@demetrixxxable if your jesus died for us then why was he begging for help when he was being crucified?? if he sacrificed himself then why is he coming back...sacrifice is something you lose forever not for 3 days.....plus how can you have salvation from your Gods death....this is nothing but greek mythology going on here!!....also tell me what is the role of Marry (jesus's mom) in christianity
@demetrixxxable So you are saying the only Law written in this New Law of yours is "You are going to mess up no matter what"?
Then this is absurd. This is chaos. You are going to rather operate with man made laws then divinely revealed/inspired laws? If so, you are a fool. Or maybe an undercover atheist or something.
How can you have no laws??! this is stupid.. Can't you see something wrong with your system here?
@MastaaAce03 Hey dude. haha read this: U r a sinner since the day U r born. So the only sin that is gonna take U to hell is not to believe on what JESUS came to do. John 3:18. And then the new covenant between GOD and man is on Hebrws. 10:15-18. The law of moses is like a mirror. Where U can c ure sins,but it can take 'em away, only JESUS. Living under the law is like, if U break the smallest one, is like U had broken the whole thing or the biggest one(murder) CUZ the wages of sin is "DEATH".
@demetrixxxable Then what are the new punishments for these acts?? If you say the OT was too harsh what do you new ones say???
This is what i've been asking for the past few days and it is disappointing to see you and your lil friend run away from the topic at hand to justify this major error in this concept of getting rid of the Law. Even though from the beginning we see Jesus uses fulfill and abolish at opposites and you are using they as synonyms!
@MastaaAce03 Hey dude,, read again.. THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!!! No matter how big or small it could be. U r totally dead spiritually. something ure evil book doesn' teach U. The "law" is always there.. cuz this world is cursed. When U take JESUS as ure LORD AND SAVIOR..U sign your name in the BOOK OF LIFE. And when U sin, u said "Tnks JESUS" cuz U already took care of it on the cross. Now U live where there's a reaction of ure actions. U just prove here what the Bible says on Cortins2:14-16.
@demetrixxxable Just stop making a fool out of your religion, follow holyspiritdove's example when he realized this huge error in your teachings and ran away!
What can you say now!? You HAVE NOTHING LOL! I am shocked man... Who would follow such a thing?? How did Jesus or Paul not give you the divine laws on these subjects? They left you hanging..
Your whole system is flawed, from the Trinity, to laws governing society. It is all messed up and confused. You have to be blind to follow it.
@MastaaAce03 My "system"? haha Everybody on this earth is cursed, since the fall of Adan. U c JESUS brought back what we lost in him. "Direct contact with GOD", spiritual life.To do this,JESUS got to get rid of what killed us 1st (SIN). But, if HE only would've done this..we would've be still dead(spiritually) So HE brought a big GIFT to humanity, something we don' deserve, gain 4 our deeds, earn it or even buy it. Y? Cuz is just a gift! Either U take or not. But once U take IT. The HOLY SPIRIT.
@demetrixxxable If you did not understand it, it is what are the new rulings on all of these things that the Law covered, if there are any for the topics i've mentioned that OT spoke about, such as inheritance laws, punishment for apostasy, punishment for homos, Uncle + niece thing, and it does not just say "you will not enter heaven", no. It says you will be stoned, killed, male gets everything, etc.
You must have something or this whole concept is flawed and it cripples you.
@MastaaAce03 There's no rules...NO RULEEEESSSS!! CUZ JESUS IS NOT A RELIGION.. JESUS only says. Matt. 11:28-30. Come to ME, all U who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give U rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from ME, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and U will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and my burden is light! And then SAYS. Call to ME, and I will answer U, & show U great & mighty things, which U do not know (Jeremi 33:3) And show us who the real enemy relly is..
Are you serious? You just exposed Christianity. What kind of a system is this with no rules? You owned yourself, lol gg.
Horrible, why would i want to follow something that has no structure or rules. What should i expect in this funky junky thinking. 1+1+1=1, you can be 100% something while being 100% something else, god according to you does not know the DATE OF JUDGEMENT DAY, Exalted is He from what you say.
@MastaaAce03 It seems that U have a slow understanding more than the average men. Can U read and understand what I wrote to You? U have to read some of the passages that I wrote there. U r talking "human" structure.. !! JESUS talks about "SPIRITUAL" structure.. cuz we R here 4 a very short time. And where we going we don' need 'flesh" So that only probes that U have no idea what the BIBLE SAYS. It's normal. U guys wanna read it and understand it "literally" which is gonna be "impossible" 4 you.
@demetrixxxable This is a childish way of life, just go to your room kid. No rules................................................. Come on. Why are you even here man.
You've been watching too much Peter Pan, you don't wanna grow up, no rules, the whole package, you got it man!
@MastaaAce03 U still putting "flesh and blood" on heaven. Got to understand what the Bible says about that on 1Cortns 5:17 & 15:45-50. And Revltns 21:4 Read a lil and get a lil idea on what this great and incredible book says about it,, just read it! I COULD help U..if U don' understand it.I know ure quran only says.."SUBMIT AND SHUT UP"!! Don' ask any questions at all. CUZ allah.. won' tolerate any insult of the matter.. just bow down and say the same "WORDS..OVER AND OVER. 24/7.365. SO SAD.
@MastaaAce03 On Ephe. 6:12. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts or wickedness in the high places.Unlike the quran who points out "humans" as your enemy. And much more stuff.U wouldn' believe it. U see there's always something good in every religion.. But since JESUS is not one..WE HAVE THE WHOLE PACKAGE ON HIM.. HE NEW all the way the day and hr of his 2nd coming,, cuz HE left the evidence.
@demetrixxxable If you had the whole package you would have the rulings on these things in your New Law/System (I dunno if you have em but so far no one has shown me).
And God is All-Knowing. The Father (One True God) is All-Knowing but Jesus (pbuh) and Holy spirit are not:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
@MastaaAce03 So WHAT'S THE BIG deal about the day and hr? We ."SONS OF GOD" WE don' give a crab. All we know that we don' live under condemnation and we have "eternal life". Every time the earth shakes and floods ..we know JESUS IS close. We totally know the time is very close.. What good would've do to tell us the day and hr? Would you like to know the day U r gonna die? it is TONIGHT! What would U do? I think U got a lot of growing up to do and learning to do. So bad ure god don' give U that!
@MastaaAce03 Hahaha Ure god hasn' even give U a sign of hope. It totally says> If U don' change 1st.. "he" can' do anything to help U> haha What an "arrogant" god is that! Doesn' tell u when U gonna meet him, U can' even speak 2 him. Doesn' show that he really cares 4 U. Can U see that ure god sounds more like a human being? To me sounds like moha"mad". So ask him 2nite to reveal himself 2 U and see what happens.. If not.. ask JESUS!!
@demetrixxxable So if you there is no law in your "new law" that deals with this or if you have no new law ( i actually don't really know), it is unreasonable not to follow the Law and prophets since what they have presented is divinely inspired.
You must at least follow the Law on all of the topics and rulings that were not mentioned in NT.
Because, otherwise, what would you do?? You would be in chaos.
@MastaaAce03 I know is so hard to understand,,cuz U been indoctrinated. I told U what's the new law on Hebrws.. but U haven' read it yet.JESUS LIVES inside of us.HE tell us what to do, what is good or not. He will not guides to do wrong, but since we still r trap on a body with flesh and blood..we still sin. But, we don' worry..Jesus already paid 4 that. We live a new life, we have a new identity,, not a new personality. We've been transform ..from a caterpillar to a beautiful butterfly.
@MastaaAce03 Comes inside of U to reside there 4 good! HE will never leave U. never forsake U or Romns 8:37-39. So as U can see.. We really have a big guarantee on what JESUS promised. Unlike ure man-made religion, where the only guarantee is to "blow yourself out". That's very sad, cuz U guys live under cursed, never free to know that U have a REAL GOD,, that it has a name(ures doesn' "the unknowable) and U can talk to HIM. And trust Him when u have no hope. Ure whole future is totally condemn!
May Allah forgive me for mentioning those incidences from the Bible because the prophets mentioned doing these acts are innocent and far removed from you sick liars who make up all this garbage.
I wonder if he would have his daughter read Surah 4:34 which states a man can beat his wife. I also wonder if he would like explain to his daughter that it is okay for your husband to beat because the Angel Gabriel went to Mohammad somewhere quietly in the desert and whispered to Mohammad the word of God. We have our version of Mohammad here in America and he is called Joseph Smith: founder of the Mormon religion. They have a Mecca too it is called Salt Lake City.
@SenorZacito I will respond to the Law after your response to this: would you let your daughter read how Lot fucks his daughters u sick piece of shit? And how David commits adultery and then kills the woman's husband? And how Judah fucks his daughter in law and these incestuous children, according to the bible, are the great grandfathers of your god Jesus Christ? And how when your mother saves your fathers life you have to chop off her hands? Would you?
@shan00r I will watch 3 videos of your choice if you watch the one I told you to watch, and then we can discuss in detail all 4 videos and the points discussed in them, agreed ?
@cubaniton74 I watched the video long back...& @ that time I dint even care 2 comment on it....but as U asked I checked the video icon 2 remind which video u wer talking bout.
His name I beieve was Kamal..."A devout Muslims". Another Studio production by the Impesonating FAKE ex muslim.
One Funny Thing(among many) bout this "A devout Muslims" is that he still do not know how to pronounce the word "MUSLIM". How Bout making a EXPOSE VID If this is not enough 2 satisfy U.
What is the punishment that was instated by muhamad if a muslim converts to another religion? Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57) muhamad's way was and still is "ISLEM TESLIM." By the Sword. sura 9:29“Slay the idolators[non-Muslims] wherever ye find them,Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Go and check your quran.And you will find that I am correct when I say muhamad taught to KILL
GOOD JOB SAM ..KEEP BRINGING 'EM DOWN!! Even the way they look is so freaking UGLY, THEY LOOK LIKE SO SATANIC, EVIL. Just look at their faces and U can tell that they are dead as a rock on the desert. Cuz "their" god has nothing to offer, no love, no hope and no LIFE! Just 'SUBMISSION TO SATAN". and SHUT UP OR WE WILL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF, STONE YOU TO DEAD, AND MORE!!! HAHAHAH Feel sorry for their woman, that are treated like "animals".and what is sad.! Is that they still take it till they die.
@shamounian WOOAHH yeahh U really got him right there, where it really hurts. The real problem with this people is that some how they don' understand the "spiritual things" just like the Bible says on 1coritns 2:14-16. Still thinking on "having sex on heaven" when the Bible clearly says "flesh and blood" are not gonna inherit the kingdom of GOD. I just wonder if U know about the "letters of Pilate to tiberious". That totally describes how Pilate was one of the 500 hundred people to see JESUS ..
@shan00r And the point of the matter is that..Yes, many things of that are on the Bible.. BUT,,Nobody do those things anymore,, LIKE U GUYS DO and follow! There's rape on the Bible? Show me where.. and I hope U r not like mayority of "muslims",, with this stupid way to read the versus.. hahah out of one single word they make a whole "LIE"!! U see the bible is a complete book, even satan has tried so hard to change it.. We don' do things AT ALL like the old testament says it.. Only "muslims
@holyspiritdove LOL, first of all. God did not say Jesus (pbuh) was a god. 2nd, its funny that you are making a distinction between God and Jesus (pbuh) here, good job.
@holyspiritdove No, i did not think that you made it up but i KNEW that there was a "catch". That is a quote from Psalms 45 v 6, hence the quotation marks, go search it up.
And who is the book of Hebrews written by? It is written by a devil named Paul/Saul, and I am not surprised. He thought that all food is clean since Jesus (as) came but Jesus (as) says otherwise in Matt 17-20. He never even saw Jesus (as) in his life! LOL. You are following Pauline Christianity not what Jesus (as) taught.
PAUL THE APOSTLE IS A GREAT SERVANT OF GOD AND TEACHES WHAT JESUS TAUGHT BUT SINCE YOU HATE JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD YOU HATE PAUL ALL FALSE DOCTRINES AND TEACHERS HATE PAUL THE APOSTLE
JESUS CHRIST THE GREAT GOD WHO CAME AS DIVINE MAN AND SON OF YAHWEH LOVES *** PAUL THE APOSTLE*** AMEN.
@holyspiritdove Then why does so much stuff that Paul/Saul says contradict what Jesus (pbuh) said? Like the example i gave you before, Paul thought that Jesus came to abolish the law and the prophets but Jesus (pbuh) says he came to fulfill them and that not even one jot should be changed [Matt 5:17-20].
And you think the "original" writers of the OT are the ones that wrote those sub titles? Who're you tryna fool?
But i'm kinda confused cause why was Jesus (pbuh) in the bible already telling ppl not to do eye for an eye but to "turn the other cheek" while he was still preaching, before he was crucified?
@holyspiritdove What..? I dont think you answered my question...
You said before that the fulfillment mentioned in Matt 5:17 occured while Jesus (pbuh) was on the cross because he said "It is finished" (Btw i can make up like 100 different meanings of this to match other views). Therefore, the Law should not have been changed even '1 jot' until the fulfillment, which according to you is crucifixion. But my question was:
Then why does Jesus (pbuh) give different laws while he was alive still?
@MastaaAce03 THINK DID JESUS SAY HE CAME TO FULFILL THE LAW= YES
DID JESUS FULFILL THE LAW AS HE SAID HE WOULD =YES
AT THE END OF HIS EARTHLY MISSION BEFORE HE DIES ON THE CROSS JESUS SAYS ***IT IS FINISHED*** IN OTHER WORDS IT IS DONE OR WHAT IS DONE OR WHAT IS FINISHED??? WHATEVER JESUS SAID HE CAME TO DO
WHAT DID JESUS SAY HE CAME TO DO = TO FULFILL THE LAW
SO WHEN JESUS SAYS IT IS FINISHED HE MEANS ALL THINGS INCLUDING FULFILLING THE LAW.AMEN.
You tell me to think, but i think that you need to think about my question for a second, and not just start spurting random stuff out. Go back and read then gimmie an answer, this is not a trick. I sincerely want to know and i am sure there is an answer but maybe you are not knowledgeable enough to tell me. If that is the case, do not feel ashamed and direct me to a place or person that can answer me.
@holyspiritdove If what you said is true then why to come second time or why to choose Paul as his desciple, and continue with his own (Jesus') revelation to Paul.
@nctrio7791 Jesus(pbuh) never made Paul a disciple, paul never met Jesus(pbuh) in real-life Paul wrote in the bible that he met him in a vision... is that trustworthy at all?
Don't forget Paul killed early Christians and was a enemy of jesus(pbuh) before he said in the bible he became a Christian. Now tell me is that person trustworthy or not?
@nctrio7791 PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS CHOSEN BY JESUS TO BRING THE FULL TRUTH ***THE ETERNAL LIFE GIVING GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST***
FIRST 1) TO THE GENTILES = NON JEWS
SECOND 2) TO THE KINGS= CAESAR EMPEROR OF ROME
THIRD 3) CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
WHY BECAUSE GOD PLANNED TO SAVE THE NON JEW FIRST THEN THE JEW THROUGH JESUS CHRIST AND THERE IS NO MORE ANOTHER REVELATION AFTER JESUS CHRIST SINCE JESUS IS ETERNAL AND EVERLASTING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS THE FULL AND FINAL REVELATION.
@holyspiritdove How can Paul be chosen by Jesus when they never met in person? Jesus had apostles, close friends and helpers, and, the only person in the world he chose was Paul the killer of Christians.
@nctrio7791 ACTS 9:10 AND THERE WAS A DISCIPLE AT DAMASCUS NAMED ***ANANIAS*** AND THE LORD CALLED ANANIAS IN A VISION AND ANANIAS SAID HERE I AM LORD AND THE LORD SAID ARISE AND GO INTO THE STREET CALLED STRAIGHT AND ENQUIRE IN THE HOUSE OF ONE CALLED JUDAS FOR ONE CALLED SAUL OF TARSUS FOR HE IS PRAYING.
AND I HAVE SHOWN HIM A VISION THAT YOU ANANIAS WILL COME AND PRAY FOR HIM THAT HE MAY GAIN HIS EYE SIGHT BACK.
@nctrio7791 THEN ANSWERED ANANIAS ***LORD*** I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE ABOUT THE EVIL WHICH SAUL HAS DONE TO YOUR CHURCH AT JERUSALEM AND HERE IN DAMASCUS HE HAS ARRIVED WITH AUTHORITY FROM THE CHIEF PRIESTS TO ARREST ALL WHO CALL ON YOUR NAME JESUS!
BUT ***THE LORD SAID ANANIAS*** GO YOUR WAY FOR I JESUS CHRIST HAVE CHOSEN HIM [APOSTLE] TO BEAR MY NAME BEFORE THE GENTILES AND KINGS AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.FOR I WILL SHOW SAUL HOW GREAT THINGS HE MUST SUFFER FOR MY NAME.
@nctrio7791 ACTS 9:17-18 AND ANANIAS WENT HIS WAY AND ENTERED INTO THE HOUSE AND PUTTING HIS HANDS ON SAUL SAID ***BROTHER SAUL***
***THE LORD JESUS*** WHO APPEARED DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR WAY TO DAMASCUS HERE HAS SENT ME ANANIAS TO PRAY FOR YOU THAT YOU MAY RECEIVE YOUR EYE SIGHT AND BE FILLED WITH **THE HOLY GHOST***
AND IMMEDIATELY THERE FELL FROM SAUL'S EYES AS IF IT HAD BEEN COVERED WITH SCALES AND HE RECOVERED HIS EYE SIGHT AND AROSE AND WAS BAPTIZED.
@holyspiritdove Can you please tell me which one is Gospel of Jesus. Matthew, Mark. Luke or John? Did you know that if you take all words that are ascribed to Jesus in entire Bible you would barely be able to make a newspaper column. Did they tell you all that in the church and you are repeating the same all over again without any intention to understand what you are actually saying?
@holyspiritdove Hold on for a second. How is Jesus law giver when Jesus actually followed the law of Moses? Jesus is not God's only begotten son in the Bible. Are the Father and the son one and the same person? According to you they are if I understand your comment very well. As for love and forgiveness your statement makes no sense. We are talking about God and not about movie star. If God wants to forgive you he can just forgive you for He is God.
@holyspiritdove Look man.. You can go to your friends and say that you 'won' but do not reply to me by beating around the bushes and avoiding my question.
I actually want to know, what don't you get about that? I'm being sincere. Instead of crying and screaming, can you do your job and answer this sincere question about your religion? Or like i said before if you do not have the appropriate knowledge regarding the subject, refer me to somebody who does. I will post it again in next reply.
You said before that the fulfillment mentioned in Matt 5:17 occured while Jesus (pbuh) was on the cross because he said "It is finished" (Btw i can make up like 100 different meanings of this to match other views). Therefore, the Law should not have been changed even '1 jot' until the fulfillment, which according to you is crucifixion. But my question was:
Then why does Jesus (pbuh) give different laws while he was alive still?
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever.God cannot die, yet Jesus was killed .The Bible does not say that only his “human nature” died; it says that Jesus died, which would include all of Jesus (100%).1 Corinthians 15:3
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures.
ACTUALLY LITERALLY DIED ON THE CROSS AS JESUS HIMSELF PREDICTED MANY TIMES AND AS THE HOLY JEWISH ISRAELI PROPHETS PROPHESIED MANY TIMES AND AS THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS MANY TIMES???
IF YOU ARE TRULY CONVINCED AS PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS BY JESUS APPEARING TO HIM WHO WENT ABOUT SAYING PREVIOUSLY THAT JESUS IS NOT GOD JESUS IS NOT MESSIAH JESUS NEVER ROSE FROM THE DEAD
@holyspiritdove Jesus(pbuh) is not a begooten son of god. The verse which Christians use to prove that Jesus is the Begotten son of God is from Gospel of John chapter 3, verse 16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His [e]only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" Begotten is the lower animal function of sex. That's the reason in the revised standard version of the bible the word begotten is thrown away from the bible
@4423ghostrider REVISED STANDARD VERSION JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED [THE] BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD MANY TIMES.
ACTS 13:32-33 AND WE THE APOSTLES OF JESUS CHRIST BRING YOU THE GOOD NEWS ***THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST*** WHICH WAS PROMISED BY YAHWEH TO OUR ISRAELI JEWISH FATHERS AND HAS NOW BEEN FULFILLED TO US JEWS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD TO BRING CHRIST TO THE WORLD BY RAISING JESUS [RESURRECTION] AS PROPHESIED IN PSALM 2 :7
THIS DAY HAVE *** I YAHWEH HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU JESUS MY SON***
@holyspiritdove Brother i think u didn't understand my post i said The Word Begotten in Gospel of John chapter 3, verse 16 ""For God so loved the world, that He gave His [e]only BEGOTTON Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" If Bible is the word of God, then why this word begotten is thrown out of the bible From John 3:16 in the revised standard version of the bible tell me? BCoz It was a fabrication. Get ur facts right mate.
@4423ghostrider IT IS NOT THROWN OUT BROTHER IF YOU ASK ANY TRANSLATOR OF REVISED STANDARD VERSION DOES THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION TRANSLATORS BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD THEY WILL SAY YES BECAUSE IN [RSV]
PSALM 2:7 JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
ACTS 13:22-23 JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
HEBREWS 1:5 JESUS CHRIST IS THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
ASK A ENGLISH TEACHER WHAT ONLY SON AND BEGOTTEN SON MEANS =OWN SON
@holyspiritdove You Quoted Acts 13:32-33, I am Quoting u from the new international version of the bible and the word begotten is not there " We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33 he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: 'You are my Son; today I have become your Father.'( Acts 13:32-33). Where is the word begotten my dear friend???
@holyspiritdove Now lets analyse Psalms 2:7 to see if the word BEGOTTEN IS THERE, i am again Quoting from New international version
"I will proclaim the decree of the LORD: He said to me, You are my Son; today I have become your Father" Again where is the word Begotten? And i don't think u even know ur bible. Here God is talking about David(pbuh) not Jesus(pbuh). Read ur bible properly.
@4423ghostrider READ THE WHOLE PSALM 2 VS 2 SAYS THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER AGAINST THE LORD ***YAHWEH*** AND AGAINST YAHWEH'S ANOINTED = CHRIST WHO IS THE ONLY SON OR BEGOTTEN SON SAME MEANING
[THE] ANOINTED ONE AND ONLY SUPREME ANOINTED DIRECTLY ANOINTED BY GOD NOT BY ANY HUMAN PROPHET LUKE 4;14-21 COMPARE TO ISAIAH 61;1-2
PROOF ITS ABOUT JESUS CHRIST AND NOT ABOUT DAVID ACTS 4;25-28
EMPHASIS ON VS 26 *** AGAINST YAHWEH THE LORD AND AGAINST HIS CHRIST
@holyspiritdove ok Now u brought forward a point let me ask u few Questions related to it:
Verses that show a difference between the nature of God and the nature of Christ
1)Jesus is very plainly called a man( not a divine man)many times in Scripture: John 8:40; Acts 2:22; 17:31; 1 Timothy 2:5, etc. In contrast to this, the Bible says, “God is not a man…” (Num. 23:19), and “...For I am God, and not man...” (Hosea 11:9).
2)God is spirit (John 4:24), yet even after his so called resurrection Jesus said of himself that he was not a spirit, but flesh and bone (Luke 24:39).
3)) Numbers 23:19 also specifically says that God is not “a son of man.” In the Gospels, Jesus is often called “a son of man” or “the son of man.” If God became a human being who was called “the son of man” this creates a contradiction.
@4423ghostrider YES GOD IS SPIRIT AS PER JESUS THIS GOD ALSO HAS A SOUL AND A SPIRIT BODY WHICH TOOK ON DIVINE HOLY PURE UNDEFILED FLESH SUPERNATURALLY.
AND GOD SAID LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE GENESIS 1:26
AND YAHWEH SAID TO JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE GENESIS 1;26
PROOF JOHN 1:3 AND ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY JESUS AND NOTHING EXISTS THAT JESUS DID NOT CREATE.
MORE PROOF HEBREWS 1:10-11 YAHWEH SAYS TO JESUS YOU CREATED THE HEAVENS AND EARTH
@holyspiritdove Some occurrences of the phrase "son of man” in the New Testament are Matthew 12:40; 16:27 and 28; Mark 2:10; 8:31; John 5:27. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the “son of man” is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6; 2:8; 3:1; 3:3; 3:4; 3:10; 3:17; 3:25). Human beings, including Jesus Christ, are called “son of man,” and are thus carefully distinguished from God, who is not a “son of man."
4) God was not born, but is eternal. In contrast to the eternal God, Christ was Born that is, he had a beginning. Matthew 1:18 reads ‘Now the birth of Jesus Christ….”
5)Jesus is called the “Son of God” more than 50 times in the Bible. Not once is he called “God the Son.” I can keep on Quoting from ur bible to prove Jesus(pbuh) is not God and You will not find a single statement in the complete Bible where he is saying "He is God" or asking his diciples" To worship him"
@holyspiritdove Jesus(pbuh) never claimed divinity and it is clearly mentioned in the book of acts, chapter no. 2, verse 22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you, by miracles, and wonders, and signs, which God did by him, in the midst of you, and you are witnessed to it" So Bible says Jesus(Pbuh) Was a man, and All the miracle were done by God through Jesus(pbuh)
@4423ghostrider ANY TIME THE BIBLE REFERS TO JESUS AS A MAN THE CONTEXT AND INTENT IS ***DIVINE MAN*** NOT ORDINARY SINFUL MAN BORN BY SEX THROUGH A FATHER AND MOTHER AS ALL HUMANS AND PROPHETS ARE.
THIS DIVINE MAN JESUS SAYS IN HIS OWN WORDS
JOHN17:5 O FATHER GLORIFY ME WITH YOUR SELF***DIVINITY*** THE SAME DIVINE GLORY THAT I SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLDS WERE CREATED.
JOHN 1:1-14 HEBREWS 2:9-10 GOD JESUS DISGUISED HIMSELF AS A DIVINE MAN JESUS PHILIPPIANS 2:6-11
@holyspiritdove If there was So much Prophesies bout Jesus Dying....What Is the Point in Predicting it. People do Predict Only when They r NOT SURE bout the future.
And U call Jesus A God.
If He Really came 2 Redeem our Sins...Why did He say Judas will BETRAY me...He Shud've Said he will HELP me.
Why Did He say...Take SWORD 2 defend.
Why Is he SAD & CURSING God...Eli Eli Why have U forsaken me.
@shan00r Brother the Problem is these Christians don't understand their Bible. The bible doesn't support christian belief in trinity at all, one of the scribes once asked Jesus(pbuh) as to which was the first commandment to which Jesus(pbuh) merely repeated what Moses(pbuh) said, namely-
"SHAMA ISRAELO ADONAI ILA HAYNO ADNA IKHAT" this is the Hebrew quotation which means "Hear O israel, The lord, our god is one god" (Mark 12:29). He Didn't Say I AM GOD, rather he said, there is only one God.
@shan00r NOW BECAUSE YAHWEH DETERMINED EVEN BEFORE JESUS CREATED ADAM AND EVE BY YAHWEH'S WILL THAT MAN WILL SIN AGAINST YAHWEH JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT THAT YAHWEH LOVED US SO MUCH THAT HE DECIDE TO SEND JESUS TO THE WORLD TO DIE ON THE CROSS
FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD TO SAVE MAN FROM THEIR SINS BY HIS ATONING HOLY SACRIFICE OF JESUS
@shan00r JUDAS JOINED SATAN AND SATAN ENTERED INTO JUDAS AND JESUS CALLED JUDAS A DEVIL JOHN 6:70-71
THE DEVIL WHO USED JUDAS THOUGHT THAT IF HE KILLED JESUS ON THE CROSS THAT THE DEVIL COULD DESTROY JESUS AND STILL HAVE THE WHOLE WORLD IN HIS CONTROL AND TAKE ALL HUMANS TO HELL ALONG WITH HIM ON JUDGMENT DAY.
BUT THE DEVIL DID NOT KNOW THAT JESUS WILL DESTROY THE DEVILS LEGAL RIGHT AND AUTHORITY BY CARRYING OUR SINS IN HIS BODY AND DIE ON OUR BEHALF AND RESURRECT I CORINTHIANS 2:8
@shan00r MATHEW 26:52-54 THEN SAID JESUS TO PETER PUT BACK YOUR SWORD IN ITS PLACE FOR ALL WHO DESTROY BY THE SWORD SHALL BE DESTROYED BY THE SWORD.
DONT YOU KNOW PETER THAT I CAN ASK MY FATHER RIGHT NOW AND YAHWEH WILL GIVE ME MORE THAN 12 GROUPS OF WARING ANGELS TO SAVE ME FROM DEATH ON THE CROSS
BUT IF I DECIDE NOT TO DIE ON THE CROSS HOW WILL I FULFILL THE THE WILL OF YAHWEH WHO SENT ME FOR THIS VERY MISSION TO SAVE HUMANITY AND FULFILL SCRIPTURE SPOKEN BY HIS PROPHETS.
@shan00r THE REASON JESUS HID HIMSELF IS NOT BECAUSE HE IS A COWARD
BUT BECAUSE THE TIME SET BY YAHWEH FOR JESUS TO DIE AND FULFILL BIBLE PROPHECY HAD NOT YET COME AND SO JESUS WOULD NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO CAPTURE HIM AND IF ANY ONE CAUGHT HIM HE WOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THEIR GRIP AND SIGHT
PROOF LUKE 4: 14-30 VS 30 SAYS JESUS PASSING THROUGH THE MIDST OF THEM DISAPPEARED AND WALKED RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDST OF THEM AND SO PASSED BY
JOHN 7:30 JESUS HOUR TO DIE HAD NOT YET COME SO ESCAPED
@holyspiritdove YO! Where have you been?? It's been a while and you still didn't answer my question.. But its ok! Cause i have a new one.
You said Jesus pbuh got rid of the Law after his crucifixion and you say this is fulfilling it. But in fact, getting rid of it means abolishing it, which Jesus pbuh said he was NOT gonna do. So can you help me out here, i JUST realized your contradiction here, lol i am pretty slow.
You can answer previous question later cause i forgot it...
@MastaaAce03 THE LAW HAS LEGAL AUTHORITY OVER ALL HUMANS TO JUDGE AND PUNISH
BY THE LAW ALL HUMANS REALIZE THEY ARE SINNERS AND HAVE OFFENDED GOD AND ARE UNWORTHY TO ENTER GOD'S HOLY HEAVEN WHERE HE DWELLS IN UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT.
FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
JESUS CHRIST CLARIFIED THE TRUE MEANING OF THE LAW AND ACCORDING TO GOD'S MEANING WE ARE ALL ADULTERER'S AND MURDER'S
SO THE LAW BRINGS CONDEMNATION MATHEW 5:21-22 & VS 28 -32
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And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
[Quran Surat As-Saf/ 61:6]
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce I am confused right now you need to be more direct with your questions. What exactly is the one question you want me to answer? Just type it without all the extra words of pride associated with it
SenorZacito 4 days ago
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@SenorZacito I said it 29 times. Here it is again : would you let your daughter read how Lot fucks his daughters u sick piece of shit? And how David commits adultery and then kills the woman's husband? And how Judah fucks his daughter in law and these incestuous children, according to the bible, are the great grandfathers of your god Jesus Christ? And how when your mother saves your fathers life you have to chop off her hands?
Plus the good stuff from Ezekiel 23 about genitals like donkeys.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@MastaaAce03 My brother in the almighty I will pray that you will get the hate out of your heart, but I understand it is hard to when the Qur'an teaches you to treat Christians as second class citizens. The actions of these people in the old testament are not due to what god commands them to do. These people are sinners and it is showing their sins. Just like Adam disobeyed God. God did not command him to disobey him. Now please help my confusion about the historical errors in the Qur'an
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Yes, keep ignoring my question you devil!! Better run, kid.
Disgusting to your own religion, how can you be ashamed of what you claim is the word of God??
Disgusting. Answer the question if you are a true Christian!!!! Stand up for the Bible!! Come on you are getting slaughtered out here, but you should thank HSD for changing subject back and saving your butt! But d/w i'll get back to you soon kiddo.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
AHA! It is Ezekiel 23, this is some twisted shit if i may say so myself.
3 They became prostitutes in Egypt, engaging in prostitution from their youth. In that land their breasts were fondled and their virgin bosoms caressed
20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. 21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.[c]
Genitals like donkeys???
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
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demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 WHAT is this BS? HAHAH For a person who really knows the BIBLE. All O.T. is only HISTORY! That was how the world was on those times. But, we don' do nothing like they used to do now a days. Unlike ure evil book tells U to do, so U guys still do it! hahah We don' slay animals to be forgiven and start all over. We don' marry young ladies like they used to do..BUT U,,DO.. even have an evil law about it!Made by "pedophiles'. K'MON..THE BIBLE NEEDS A "KEY" TO UNDERSTAND IT. DO U HAVE IT?
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 I told you Catholic church (which preserved the bible) does not have our young children memorize the bible. These subjects are not what we teach they are theological examples all explaining different aspects of life. The prophets of the old testament were sinners. The Vatican has the original bible. Here is the original language "οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ "ἀπόληται ἀλλ' ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον"How is it corrupt?
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Listen you cursed snake! This is your Word of God here! Answer the question you evil being!!
Are you ashamed of your word of God?? Are you??? Answer my ONE question and i will answer ALL of yours, insha Allah.
I gotta go pray now so it will give you some time to think about how you will answer this sick crap.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Im back baby. What is your response? Lets get this over with so i can smoke you on your alleged contradictions and errors in Quran, insha Allah.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@MasraaAce03 My brother in the almighty can you explain to me how the prophet Mohammad had God talk to him when he makes an historical fallacy. In Sura 19:28, Mary, the mother of Jesus, is said to be the sister of Aaron and Moses and the daughter of Amram (Sura 66:12). However, Jesus was not born for another 1400 years after Moses! It is clear that Muhammad confused Miriam, the sister of Moses, with Mary the mother of Jesus and wife of Joseph. Can you please help me with my confusion brother.
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Kk, i will answer ALL of these things, insha Allah, but first answer my ONE question and i will answer all of yours.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
I love the reference which Muslims give to the Blessed Mother in the Qur'an, the only woman mentioned in the Qur'an by name. Islam gives credit to the virgin birth of the Jesus. I respect the 5 times a day prayer which we have in the Christian-Catholic church. I respect the Muslim women who cover themselves willing so they are not objectified by men. However, the only problem I have is with the historical fallacies in the Qur'an. How can I believe this is true when it makes historical mistakes?
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@MastaaAce03 My brother in the almighty get the hate of Satan out of your heart. You have to understand that Catholics (who preserved the bible) do not have our children memorize it like you do with the Qur'an. Since you have your children memorize the Qur'an I am concerned for your women. The Qur'an states the gospel and torah are true in Surah 5:46. If the Qur'an is the truth then why does it make so many historical fallacies?
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Listen kid. This is just as i expected from a snake Christian who follows his bible and tries to be "wise as serpents" - slick like snakes, as it says. And for your comments b4, i was in this cult too once but finally opened my eyes to this garbage, how can i accept Bible to be a Book of God when it's 1/3 porn?
Funny how you did not respond to my question, hahahaaha.
Yes, even Muslim CHILDREN memorize Quran, SubhanAllah!! That is so beautiful.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@SenorZacito Look at this typical christian tactics, everyone should take note. When they are getting smoked on one subject they change it quick and make false accusations.
So now that we agree Jesus did not abolish the Law, good stuff that's 1/1.
U are a fool. Learn some basic knowledge about Islam and then come here....
Muslims believe in the Torah, and Gospel of Jesus, but the present "Bible" is corrupted.
How can something be word of God with so many mistakes?? No, Exalted is He from that
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@SenorZacito So back to the question, would you read all those porn scenes to your mother, sister, daughter? And there's another that is SO EXPLICIT in Ezekiel, i shall find it for you!
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
@MastaaAce03 I DO.. AND EXPLAIN IT IN DETAILS!! Would U teach ure kid,,how to blow "himself" out, hate people, kill people and more, for no right reason when his.[er] mentality is still developing? Just remember what they used to do in kabba? They went naked and have sex on that place. Have U noticed that moha"mad" was always "clean" by allah when doing "sexual, criminal acts"? Did U read that He asked his donkey about ,what "he" think about woman?? hahahaha Just a total pervert and sick guy.!
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable No, i would not teach my kid how to blow himself up, hate ppl, kill ppl and more for no right reason.
???
What do you want from me you lunatic!? Stop deterring the conversations when i am destroying your fellow cultists. The fact is you need to follow the Law b/c Jesus said he did NOT come to abolish it. And if you abolish it (as you have done now) you are basically lawless! You have no system! No rules! Cant you see something wrong here? i'm sure holyspiritdove can, hahaha.
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 Cuz u r a "RETARD"..U need to understand that U might know what it says..BUT NOT..WHAT IT MEANS!! COMPRENDO??? JESUS came to fullfilled the prophecy, not to change THE LAW..cuz is STILL THERE!! IS WHAT U LIVE UNDER IT! AND U R NOT DESTROYING ANYBODY..U CAN' DO ME NO HARM. U still holdin in ure back the "big ten"..hahah JESUS CHANGED ALL THAT..BUT IF U REALLY TRUST ON WHAT HE CAME TO DO..AND NOT WHAT "U" DO...COMPRENDO RETARD?? HAHAHA
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable ??? Are you confused my son? U seem to be getting some whispers from the jinn or something, get that checked out asap.
So you are telling me that the Law of the OT still applies to Christians today? Think about this for a second, because this is exactly the opposite of what your friend holyspiritdove was saying. Am i right or wrong, do you believe the OT Law still applies to you or no?
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 HAHAHA..APLIES TO EVERYBODY..!! U R DEAD SPIRITUALLY!! NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION OR "PHILOSOPHY" U FOLLOW. The law was made to show U your "sinful" life. Nobody is born "ALIVE..SPIRITUALLY"!! Adan was the 1st..and the 2nd was JESUS.. SO THE WHOLE WORLD IS UNDER CONDEMNATION.. NO MATTER WHAT U DO! SOMETHING URE EVIL BOOK HAS TWISTED ALL THE WAY..THEY SAID THERE'S NO ORIGINAL "SIN"..SO,,WHERE DID U COME UP WITH "PARADISE"?? AND ADAN WAS A "PROPHET"? WHAT'S HIS PROPHECY?
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable You failed to answer my question. I really do recommend seeing an exorcist or something for your condition...
Or maybe you did answer it but i cant make it out through all the possessed talk...
It's pretty easy, you can just copy paste which one you agree with:
A) Yes, the Law of OT still applies to us today and we need to follow it's rulings.
or
B) No, Jesus came and "fulfilled" the Law, meaning it does not apply to us anymore.
I shall await your answer.
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 Is cuz U r not that "smart" is all over.. !! U guys think really got an understanding on the things of GOD.. but,,"ure god"..CAN NOT GIVE YOU WISDOM AT ALL.. HE WANTS TO KILL YOU NO MATTER WHO U R..OR WHAT U DO! THE LAW OF MOSES IS STILL THERE..BUT JESUS BROUGHT SOMETHING WAY BETTER,,Y? CUZ we never gonna be able to follow all those rules and laws. Specially U guys that r taught to hate and kill.. WHEN THE HECK R U GONNA MAKE IT? NNNNEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEERRRRRR!!!!
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable So, from this childish writing i think i managed to pick out the answer. You are saying we DONT have to follow the Law, correct?
If so then what do you about ALLL the things not mentioned in your "new" Law. What is your new law anyway, just some writings of Paul?
What is your divine new law that Jesus brought about punishments for apostasy, inheritance laws, punishments for homos, etc? Paul did indeed modify SOME laws but what about the other 80% left untouched?
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable In some religions a man is allowed to marry his sister's daughter. (Uncle and niece). If a man from this religion converted to Christianity, would he be allowed under your new law to marry his niece? This is forbidden in OT and Islam. What about in your new law?
What is punishment for brother sister marriage? What are the rulings on all these things NOT mentioned in your new law? What do you do concerning them?
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 YEAHH some stupid religions still do that.. but only if the "race is pure"! I hope U know how or why! hahah
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable Did i ask you that? I asked you to give me the ruling from your "New Law" and a reference to it. Plus i wouldn't go around saying stupid religions allow that since i think your New Law allows it too.
But it seems your condition is improving, you are not writing like psychopath anymore..
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 And then ure evil book says Ismael was also a prophet,,but.. where are they "prophecies"? They made all this bs up to make U think.. THAT U NEED NO SPIRITUAL LIFE TO ENTER THE HOLY PLACE WHERE JESUS GOD IS RIGHT NOW. AND JUST GOD,,IF U ASK HIM,,"HE" CAN JUST FORGIVE YOU..HAAH..HOW "HE" CAN FORGIVE YOU,,IF U GOT NO SPIRITUAL LIFE 1ST? That's why r so many religions talking about "spirituality" all over the world.. but.. NO ONE,,HAS IT!! WE R GOING TO A SPIRITUAL WORLD.NO HUMAN LIKE
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
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@demetrixxxable You failed to answer my question. I really do recommend seeing an exorcist or something for your condition...
Or maybe you did answer it but i cant make it out through all the possessed talk...
It's pretty easy, you can just copy paste which one you agree with:
A) Yes, the Law of OT still applies to us today and we need to follow it's rulings.
or
B) No, Jesus came and "fulfilled" the Law, meaning it does not apply to us anymore.
I shall await your answer.
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable O BTW, if you believe you have "proof" Quran or Islam is wrong, PM with this so called proof and i shall answer every alleged error and contradiction, insha Allah.
In the meantime, answer my question plz.
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 Hey is very simple.. NO GOD, WHO IS ALL MIGHTY AND POWERFUL. WOUNDLN' HAVE THE POWER TO BE HERE AN ALL OVER IN THE UNIVERSE AT THE SAME TIME IN DIFFERENT PLACES!!! AND MY GOD.. HAS THAT AND WAY MOREEEEEE!!! BUT YOUR "GOD" SEEMS TO BE "LIMITED"..UUMMM POOR 'allah"!! hahah. what's your QUESTION?
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable ??? Are you on crack man!?!?! Begone devils who are possessing this poor confused soul!! They clouded your mind so much that you don't even know what i asked you...
May Allah guide you and free you from the grasp of the shaytaan so that you may see the Truth.
Anyways, when your devils relax the grip on you, answer this:
What does ur divine new law that Jesus brought say about punishments for apostasy, inheritance laws, punishments for homos, etc? and Uncle + Niece thing also
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
@MastaaAce03 Well, after ure lil mind can comprehend what I 'm telling U all the way along. U can stop and think.. WHAT'S THIS NEW LAW? It only tells U that no matter what U do.. U ALWAYS GONNA MESS UP.. SIN, F-UP AND MORE.. No matter what U do or "stop" doing.. U R NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO show ure face in front of GOD and say.. look GOD.,,I DIDN' NEED JESUS OR WHAT HAVE U.. I'M HERE WITH ALL MY EFFORT!! HAHAHAHA TAKE ME TO YOUR "PLACE".. CUZ I REALLY WORKED HARD 4 IT!!
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable what i asked you is plain simple...see my comment again!
kingMALIK90 52 minutes ago
@MastaaAce03 Something that it takes time to really understand.. Everyone is under condemnation. NO MATTER WHAT U DO.. U STILL LIVING UNDER THE "LAW OF MOSES"..WHICH MEANS...DEAD!! SATAN IS THERE TO FOOL YOU..CUZ THAT'S WHAT HE DOES BETTER... Something ure evil book can not tell you.!!
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable Gimmie Laws from your "New Law" on the punishment for apostasy, inheritance laws, incest marriages, Uncle+Niece thing.
If you do not have these then your way of life is useless. What is the purpose of this?? How can you establish a society on this?? No divine laws on these subjects to govern you means everyone can do what they want and it would be legal in Christianity. How would you split inheritance? The way God told you or man?? omgosh.. Are you serious??
MastaaAce03 16 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 Once U take what JESUS did on the cross 4 YOu.. U R SAVED 4 ETERNITY..
demetrixxxable 1 day ago
@demetrixxxable if your jesus died for us then why was he begging for help when he was being crucified?? if he sacrificed himself then why is he coming back...sacrifice is something you lose forever not for 3 days.....plus how can you have salvation from your Gods death....this is nothing but greek mythology going on here!!....also tell me what is the role of Marry (jesus's mom) in christianity
kingMALIK90 19 hours ago
@kingMALIK90 I think U need to ask me again.. can' understand what U r trying to say.. c ya!
demetrixxxable 6 hours ago
@demetrixxxable So you are saying the only Law written in this New Law of yours is "You are going to mess up no matter what"?
Then this is absurd. This is chaos. You are going to rather operate with man made laws then divinely revealed/inspired laws? If so, you are a fool. Or maybe an undercover atheist or something.
How can you have no laws??! this is stupid.. Can't you see something wrong with your system here?
What laws do you have, lmao? I am dumbfounded.
MastaaAce03 16 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 Hey dude. haha read this: U r a sinner since the day U r born. So the only sin that is gonna take U to hell is not to believe on what JESUS came to do. John 3:18. And then the new covenant between GOD and man is on Hebrws. 10:15-18. The law of moses is like a mirror. Where U can c ure sins,but it can take 'em away, only JESUS. Living under the law is like, if U break the smallest one, is like U had broken the whole thing or the biggest one(murder) CUZ the wages of sin is "DEATH".
demetrixxxable 6 hours ago
@demetrixxxable Then what are the new punishments for these acts?? If you say the OT was too harsh what do you new ones say???
This is what i've been asking for the past few days and it is disappointing to see you and your lil friend run away from the topic at hand to justify this major error in this concept of getting rid of the Law. Even though from the beginning we see Jesus uses fulfill and abolish at opposites and you are using they as synonyms!
So answer the question...
MastaaAce03 5 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 Hey dude,, read again.. THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!!! No matter how big or small it could be. U r totally dead spiritually. something ure evil book doesn' teach U. The "law" is always there.. cuz this world is cursed. When U take JESUS as ure LORD AND SAVIOR..U sign your name in the BOOK OF LIFE. And when U sin, u said "Tnks JESUS" cuz U already took care of it on the cross. Now U live where there's a reaction of ure actions. U just prove here what the Bible says on Cortins2:14-16.
demetrixxxable 5 hours ago
@demetrixxxable Just stop making a fool out of your religion, follow holyspiritdove's example when he realized this huge error in your teachings and ran away!
What can you say now!? You HAVE NOTHING LOL! I am shocked man... Who would follow such a thing?? How did Jesus or Paul not give you the divine laws on these subjects? They left you hanging..
Your whole system is flawed, from the Trinity, to laws governing society. It is all messed up and confused. You have to be blind to follow it.
MastaaAce03 15 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 My "system"? haha Everybody on this earth is cursed, since the fall of Adan. U c JESUS brought back what we lost in him. "Direct contact with GOD", spiritual life.To do this,JESUS got to get rid of what killed us 1st (SIN). But, if HE only would've done this..we would've be still dead(spiritually) So HE brought a big GIFT to humanity, something we don' deserve, gain 4 our deeds, earn it or even buy it. Y? Cuz is just a gift! Either U take or not. But once U take IT. The HOLY SPIRIT.
demetrixxxable 5 hours ago
@demetrixxxable If you did not understand it, it is what are the new rulings on all of these things that the Law covered, if there are any for the topics i've mentioned that OT spoke about, such as inheritance laws, punishment for apostasy, punishment for homos, Uncle + niece thing, and it does not just say "you will not enter heaven", no. It says you will be stoned, killed, male gets everything, etc.
You must have something or this whole concept is flawed and it cripples you.
MastaaAce03 5 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 There's no rules...NO RULEEEESSSS!! CUZ JESUS IS NOT A RELIGION.. JESUS only says. Matt. 11:28-30. Come to ME, all U who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give U rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from ME, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and U will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and my burden is light! And then SAYS. Call to ME, and I will answer U, & show U great & mighty things, which U do not know (Jeremi 33:3) And show us who the real enemy relly is..
demetrixxxable 5 hours ago
@demetrixxxable WTF "THERE IS NO RULES" LOL!
Are you serious? You just exposed Christianity. What kind of a system is this with no rules? You owned yourself, lol gg.
Horrible, why would i want to follow something that has no structure or rules. What should i expect in this funky junky thinking. 1+1+1=1, you can be 100% something while being 100% something else, god according to you does not know the DATE OF JUDGEMENT DAY, Exalted is He from what you say.
MastaaAce03 3 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 It seems that U have a slow understanding more than the average men. Can U read and understand what I wrote to You? U have to read some of the passages that I wrote there. U r talking "human" structure.. !! JESUS talks about "SPIRITUAL" structure.. cuz we R here 4 a very short time. And where we going we don' need 'flesh" So that only probes that U have no idea what the BIBLE SAYS. It's normal. U guys wanna read it and understand it "literally" which is gonna be "impossible" 4 you.
demetrixxxable 3 hours ago
@demetrixxxable This is a childish way of life, just go to your room kid. No rules................................................. Come on. Why are you even here man.
You've been watching too much Peter Pan, you don't wanna grow up, no rules, the whole package, you got it man!
MastaaAce03 3 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 U still putting "flesh and blood" on heaven. Got to understand what the Bible says about that on 1Cortns 5:17 & 15:45-50. And Revltns 21:4 Read a lil and get a lil idea on what this great and incredible book says about it,, just read it! I COULD help U..if U don' understand it.I know ure quran only says.."SUBMIT AND SHUT UP"!! Don' ask any questions at all. CUZ allah.. won' tolerate any insult of the matter.. just bow down and say the same "WORDS..OVER AND OVER. 24/7.365. SO SAD.
demetrixxxable 3 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 On Ephe. 6:12. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts or wickedness in the high places.Unlike the quran who points out "humans" as your enemy. And much more stuff.U wouldn' believe it. U see there's always something good in every religion.. But since JESUS is not one..WE HAVE THE WHOLE PACKAGE ON HIM.. HE NEW all the way the day and hr of his 2nd coming,, cuz HE left the evidence.
demetrixxxable 4 hours ago
@demetrixxxable If you had the whole package you would have the rulings on these things in your New Law/System (I dunno if you have em but so far no one has shown me).
And God is All-Knowing. The Father (One True God) is All-Knowing but Jesus (pbuh) and Holy spirit are not:
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
[ Mark 13:32 ]
He knew some signs, as did all prophets but not the exact time b/c ONLY God knows.
MastaaAce03 4 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 So WHAT'S THE BIG deal about the day and hr? We ."SONS OF GOD" WE don' give a crab. All we know that we don' live under condemnation and we have "eternal life". Every time the earth shakes and floods ..we know JESUS IS close. We totally know the time is very close.. What good would've do to tell us the day and hr? Would you like to know the day U r gonna die? it is TONIGHT! What would U do? I think U got a lot of growing up to do and learning to do. So bad ure god don' give U that!
demetrixxxable 3 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 Hahaha Ure god hasn' even give U a sign of hope. It totally says> If U don' change 1st.. "he" can' do anything to help U> haha What an "arrogant" god is that! Doesn' tell u when U gonna meet him, U can' even speak 2 him. Doesn' show that he really cares 4 U. Can U see that ure god sounds more like a human being? To me sounds like moha"mad". So ask him 2nite to reveal himself 2 U and see what happens.. If not.. ask JESUS!!
demetrixxxable 2 hours ago
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demetrixxxable 2 hours ago
@demetrixxxable So if you there is no law in your "new law" that deals with this or if you have no new law ( i actually don't really know), it is unreasonable not to follow the Law and prophets since what they have presented is divinely inspired.
You must at least follow the Law on all of the topics and rulings that were not mentioned in NT.
Because, otherwise, what would you do?? You would be in chaos.
MastaaAce03 5 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 I know is so hard to understand,,cuz U been indoctrinated. I told U what's the new law on Hebrws.. but U haven' read it yet.JESUS LIVES inside of us.HE tell us what to do, what is good or not. He will not guides to do wrong, but since we still r trap on a body with flesh and blood..we still sin. But, we don' worry..Jesus already paid 4 that. We live a new life, we have a new identity,, not a new personality. We've been transform ..from a caterpillar to a beautiful butterfly.
demetrixxxable 4 hours ago
@MastaaAce03 Comes inside of U to reside there 4 good! HE will never leave U. never forsake U or Romns 8:37-39. So as U can see.. We really have a big guarantee on what JESUS promised. Unlike ure man-made religion, where the only guarantee is to "blow yourself out". That's very sad, cuz U guys live under cursed, never free to know that U have a REAL GOD,, that it has a name(ures doesn' "the unknowable) and U can talk to HIM. And trust Him when u have no hope. Ure whole future is totally condemn!
demetrixxxable 5 hours ago
@demetrixxxable Oh and also are you saying that your bipolar/tripolar, whatever the heck, god is in my dirty ass toilet?
Think about that for a second....... or 2................ Then answer my question plz.
MastaaAce03 1 day ago
May Allah forgive me for mentioning those incidences from the Bible because the prophets mentioned doing these acts are innocent and far removed from you sick liars who make up all this garbage.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
I wonder if he would have his daughter read Surah 4:34 which states a man can beat his wife. I also wonder if he would like explain to his daughter that it is okay for your husband to beat because the Angel Gabriel went to Mohammad somewhere quietly in the desert and whispered to Mohammad the word of God. We have our version of Mohammad here in America and he is called Joseph Smith: founder of the Mormon religion. They have a Mecca too it is called Salt Lake City.
SenorZacito 4 days ago
@SenorZacito I will respond to the Law after your response to this: would you let your daughter read how Lot fucks his daughters u sick piece of shit? And how David commits adultery and then kills the woman's husband? And how Judah fucks his daughter in law and these incestuous children, according to the bible, are the great grandfathers of your god Jesus Christ? And how when your mother saves your fathers life you have to chop off her hands? Would you?
That's what i thought u ignorant snake.
MastaaAce03 4 days ago
read older bibles see all the lies and crap they have deleted in new versions of bibles
mrlogicalman1 4 days ago
why do these Christians write in capital letters? propa pissed off they get with their lies blasphemy porn loving book lol
lons872 5 days ago
lol sam shamoun got destroyed, mashallah shabir ally may allah bless you with paradise. sam shamoun is pathetic
CiMBoMTurkiye93 6 days ago
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Watch this video under this title: Muslim Converts to Christianity and Exposes the evils of the Cult of Islam
cubaniton74 1 week ago
@cubaniton74 How bout me telling you to watch Thousand of video's of "" EXPOSED fake EX Muslims."" to know the evils of Christianity.
To know how Hard and Desperate Christians are to mask the Shame of LOosing.
Will You care to watch them?
shan00r 1 week ago
@shan00r I will watch 3 videos of your choice if you watch the one I told you to watch, and then we can discuss in detail all 4 videos and the points discussed in them, agreed ?
cubaniton74 6 days ago
@cubaniton74 I watched the video long back...& @ that time I dint even care 2 comment on it....but as U asked I checked the video icon 2 remind which video u wer talking bout.
His name I beieve was Kamal..."A devout Muslims". Another Studio production by the Impesonating FAKE ex muslim.
One Funny Thing(among many) bout this "A devout Muslims" is that he still do not know how to pronounce the word "MUSLIM". How Bout making a EXPOSE VID If this is not enough 2 satisfy U.
why dont
shan00r 6 days ago
@cubaniton74 You dont believe me ....just go and read the comments of the muslims in that Video.....
And See how EASY and OBVIOUS it is for the muslims to recognize FAKE from TRUTH.
shan00r 6 days ago
hahahaha
rashanejem 1 week ago
I really like this sympathetic comedian Sam. hahahahaha really funny
osamaprivat 2 weeks ago
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What is the punishment that was instated by muhamad if a muslim converts to another religion? Mohammed said, “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him.” (Hadith Al Buhkari vol. 9:57) muhamad's way was and still is "ISLEM TESLIM." By the Sword. sura 9:29“Slay the idolators[non-Muslims] wherever ye find them,Muslim’s make every effort to suppress any who claim to follow the Bible. Go and check your quran.And you will find that I am correct when I say muhamad taught to KILL
33heis 2 weeks ago
Look at this:
/watch?v=Cju--hoe1Qo&feature=related
Look at these devils... Disgusting...
MastaaAce03 3 weeks ago
GOOD JOB SAM ..KEEP BRINGING 'EM DOWN!! Even the way they look is so freaking UGLY, THEY LOOK LIKE SO SATANIC, EVIL. Just look at their faces and U can tell that they are dead as a rock on the desert. Cuz "their" god has nothing to offer, no love, no hope and no LIFE! Just 'SUBMISSION TO SATAN". and SHUT UP OR WE WILL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF, STONE YOU TO DEAD, AND MORE!!! HAHAHAH Feel sorry for their woman, that are treated like "animals".and what is sad.! Is that they still take it till they die.
demetrixxxable 3 weeks ago
@famous1779 STILL HURTS UUH? HAHAHA There's no way out on this so called "religion". NO HOPE what so ever.
demetrixxxable 3 weeks ago
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demetrixxxable 3 weeks ago
poor Shabir Ally
Jondadon2006 3 weeks ago
@shamounian WOOAHH yeahh U really got him right there, where it really hurts. The real problem with this people is that some how they don' understand the "spiritual things" just like the Bible says on 1coritns 2:14-16. Still thinking on "having sex on heaven" when the Bible clearly says "flesh and blood" are not gonna inherit the kingdom of GOD. I just wonder if U know about the "letters of Pilate to tiberious". That totally describes how Pilate was one of the 500 hundred people to see JESUS ..
demetrixxxable 4 weeks ago
fucking clown
fanur100 1 month ago
JESUS SAID ***I AM THE ROCK*** THERE IS NO OTHER ROCK.
JESUS SAID *** I AM THE TRUTH*** THERE IS NO OTHER TRUTH
JESUS SAID ***I AM THE LIFE*** ONLY ETERNAL DEATH IS OUTSIDE JESUS
ALL IN JESUS CHRIST HEART HAS ETERNAL LIFE ALL OTHERS ARE IN DARKNESS AND CANNOT SEE BUT ARE BLINDED BY SELF AND SATAN.
JESUS SAID ***I AM THE LIGHT OF ALL HUMANITY***THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD***
WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD YOU IN DARKNESS.AMEN.
holyspiritdove 1 month ago
@holyspiritdove Jesus Said This.....Jesus Said that....
I too can do the same...Allah Said This & That....
What Else do U have other than 2 repeat the same thing again & again.
All U are doing is repeating Over & Over "I got the best, I got the best"
Usually Everyone thinks they got the Best.
Prove us How U are Different.
If U want 2 prove ur god better than Allah....PUT him 2 test, 2 Prove others that he is better than Allah.
Choose the Topic & Stick 2 it. Lets See who is the Best.
shan00r 1 month ago 6
@shan00r JESUS IS BEST ***THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL***
JESUS LOVES YOU.
holyspiritdove 1 month ago
@holyspiritdove I know Jesus Loves me...Allah Told me bout it long back.
Question is...Are U ready 2 Put This Holy One of Urs TO TEST.
Lets see how he is the BEST.
.
Becoz I don't Simply believe just becoz someone tells me 2 believe. I test before I believe.
Let choose a Topic & discuss on it.
Eg: Rape In Bible & Quran, Science In Bible & Quran, Women Rights In Bible & Quran or anything of YOUR choice.
Lets stop the blame game and Talk Serious.
The Rule is ...Stick 2 The topic.
shan00r 1 month ago
@shan00r JAJAJA WHAT A LIE.,. THERE'S NO WHERE ON THE QURAN WHERE 'allah" says that at all!!
demetrixxxable 3 weeks ago
@shan00r And the point of the matter is that..Yes, many things of that are on the Bible.. BUT,,Nobody do those things anymore,, LIKE U GUYS DO and follow! There's rape on the Bible? Show me where.. and I hope U r not like mayority of "muslims",, with this stupid way to read the versus.. hahah out of one single word they make a whole "LIE"!! U see the bible is a complete book, even satan has tried so hard to change it.. We don' do things AT ALL like the old testament says it.. Only "muslims
demetrixxxable 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Yea, he said everything except for "I am God" and "worship me", LOL!
MastaaAce03 3 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 GOD HAS SAID JESUS IS GOD HEBREWS 1:8
GOD SAID GOD JESUS CREATED THE UNIVERSE HEBREWS 1:10
GOD HAS SAID GOD JESUS IS ETERNAL HEBREWS 1:11
GOD HAS SAID GOD JESUS IS JUDGE OF HUMANITY HEBREWS 1:12
IF GOD SAYS JESUS IS GOD DIRECTLY AND JESUS HAS SAID I A GOD INDIRECTLY WE HAVE AMPLE PROOF THAT JESUS IS GOD AMEN.
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove LOL, first of all. God did not say Jesus (pbuh) was a god. 2nd, its funny that you are making a distinction between God and Jesus (pbuh) here, good job.
MastaaAce03 3 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 Good Point.....God did not say Jesus was a god.
Christians Must Show Us Where God the Father(First Person in Trinity) Said Jesus is God or he was a part of Trinity.
shan00r 3 weeks ago
@shan00r HEBREWS 1:8 AND GOD THE FATHER SAID TO THE SON
***O GOD JESUS*** YOUR THRONE IS FOREVER AND EVER.
HEBREWS 1:10 GOD THE FATHER SAYS ***O GOD JESUS YOU CREATED ALL CREATION***
HEBREWS 1:12 GOD THE FATHER SAYS ***O GOD JESUS*** YOU ARE ETERNAL
HEBREWS 1:13 GOD THE FATHER SAYS ***O GOD JESUS*** YOU ARE GOD IN PSALM 110:1 CONFIRMED BY THE LORD AND GOD JESUS IN MARK 12:34-37
GOD THE FATHER HAS DECLARED JESUS IS GOD AND JESUS CONFIRMED IT INDIRECTLY TRINITY IN MARK 12:34-37
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove You quote Paul. These are not words of God or Jesus. Jesus never claimed divinity.
nctrio7791 1 week ago
@MastaaAce03 YOU DID NOT READ THE VERSE DID YOU .YOU THOUGHT I MADE IT UP DIDN'T YOU? YOU IMAGINE IT IS NOT POSSIBLY TRUE.
WELL READ IT FOR YOUR SELF HEBREWS 1:8 YAHWEH THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB SAYS TO JESUS
***O GOD JESUS*** YOUR THRONE IS FOREVER AND EVER
WHO SAID THIS YAHWEH JESUS REAL FATHER THE GOD OF ABRAHAM DID
PROOF FROM JESUS OWN MOUTH
JOHN 8:54 YOUR ***GOD YAHWEH*** IS MY ***REAL FATHER***
JOHN 10:30 I JESUS CHRIST AND GOD MY REAL FATHER ARE ONE GOD
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove No, i did not think that you made it up but i KNEW that there was a "catch". That is a quote from Psalms 45 v 6, hence the quotation marks, go search it up.
And who is the book of Hebrews written by? It is written by a devil named Paul/Saul, and I am not surprised. He thought that all food is clean since Jesus (as) came but Jesus (as) says otherwise in Matt 17-20. He never even saw Jesus (as) in his life! LOL. You are following Pauline Christianity not what Jesus (as) taught.
MastaaAce03 3 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 PSALM 45 SUB TITLE
***MAJESTY AND GRACE OF CHRIST KINGDOM***
HEBREWS 13:AFTER VERSE 25 SUB TITLE
***WRITTEN TO HEBREWS FROM ITALY BY TIMOTHY***
PAUL THE APOSTLE IS A GREAT SERVANT OF GOD AND TEACHES WHAT JESUS TAUGHT BUT SINCE YOU HATE JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD YOU HATE PAUL ALL FALSE DOCTRINES AND TEACHERS HATE PAUL THE APOSTLE
JESUS CHRIST THE GREAT GOD WHO CAME AS DIVINE MAN AND SON OF YAHWEH LOVES *** PAUL THE APOSTLE*** AMEN.
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Then why does so much stuff that Paul/Saul says contradict what Jesus (pbuh) said? Like the example i gave you before, Paul thought that Jesus came to abolish the law and the prophets but Jesus (pbuh) says he came to fulfill them and that not even one jot should be changed [Matt 5:17-20].
And you think the "original" writers of the OT are the ones that wrote those sub titles? Who're you tryna fool?
MastaaAce03 3 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 YOU MISUNDERSTAND JESUS COMPLETELY WHEN JESUS SAYS I CAME TO FULFILL THE LAW AND NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAW
JESUS CLEARLY SAYS THAT UNTIL JESUS HIMSELF HAS FULFILLED THE LAW THE LAW STANDS BUT AFTER JESUS HAS FULFILLED THE LAW
THE LAW CANNOT STAND ANYMORE ON ITS OWN BECAUSE IT IS THE OLD COVENANT THAT THE JEWISH ISRAELI CHILDREN OF YAHWEH BROKE
YAHWEH SAYS THAT HE WILL IN THE LATER DAYS MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH ISRAEL AND ALL THE WORLD THRU CHRIST
JEREMIAH 31:31-34
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW ON THE CROSS ON BEHALF OF HUMANITY
JESUS WORDS ***IT IS FINISHED*** THE LAW HAS BEEN FULFILLED AS I SAID I CAME TO FULFILL THIS IS THE MEANING OF*** IT IS FINISHED*** JOHN 19:30
JESUS HAS FINISHED OR FULFILLED THE LAW JESUS SAID ONLY THEN WILL IT PASS AWAY.
JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW HIMSELF & HAS SET US FREE TO BE SLAVES OF GOD ROMANS 8:3-4
GALATIANS 5:14 [PAUL & JESUS] MATHEW 22:34-40 TEACH THE SAME TRUTH
NEW COVENANT ISAIAH 8:16 & 20
holyspiritdove 3 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove I see... Thanks for the correction.
But i'm kinda confused cause why was Jesus (pbuh) in the bible already telling ppl not to do eye for an eye but to "turn the other cheek" while he was still preaching, before he was crucified?
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 BECAUSE JESUS IS THE LAW GIVER IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE LAW HAS A DURATION UNTIL THE FULNESS OF TIME
AND WHEN YAHWEH'S APPOINTED TIME ARRIVED YAHWEH SENT HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON INTO THE WORLD TO BE OUR SAVIOR OUR REDEEMER JESUS CHRIST
THEREFORE ALL FORGIVENESS AND LOVE JESUS TAUGHT IS THE FORETASTE OF GOD'S LOVE WHICH WAS FINALLY MADE FULLY KNOWN ON THE CROSS.
FOR LOVE AND TRUE FORGIVENESS COMES ONLY FROM GOD WHO DISGUISED HIMSELF AS A DIVINE MAN.JESUS.
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove What..? I dont think you answered my question...
You said before that the fulfillment mentioned in Matt 5:17 occured while Jesus (pbuh) was on the cross because he said "It is finished" (Btw i can make up like 100 different meanings of this to match other views). Therefore, the Law should not have been changed even '1 jot' until the fulfillment, which according to you is crucifixion. But my question was:
Then why does Jesus (pbuh) give different laws while he was alive still?
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
@MastaaAce03 THINK DID JESUS SAY HE CAME TO FULFILL THE LAW= YES
DID JESUS FULFILL THE LAW AS HE SAID HE WOULD =YES
AT THE END OF HIS EARTHLY MISSION BEFORE HE DIES ON THE CROSS JESUS SAYS ***IT IS FINISHED*** IN OTHER WORDS IT IS DONE OR WHAT IS DONE OR WHAT IS FINISHED??? WHATEVER JESUS SAID HE CAME TO DO
WHAT DID JESUS SAY HE CAME TO DO = TO FULFILL THE LAW
SO WHEN JESUS SAYS IT IS FINISHED HE MEANS ALL THINGS INCLUDING FULFILLING THE LAW.AMEN.
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove >___>
You still did not answer my question.........
You tell me to think, but i think that you need to think about my question for a second, and not just start spurting random stuff out. Go back and read then gimmie an answer, this is not a trick. I sincerely want to know and i am sure there is an answer but maybe you are not knowledgeable enough to tell me. If that is the case, do not feel ashamed and direct me to a place or person that can answer me.
Thanks
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove If what you said is true then why to come second time or why to choose Paul as his desciple, and continue with his own (Jesus') revelation to Paul.
nctrio7791 2 weeks ago
@nctrio7791 Jesus(pbuh) never made Paul a disciple, paul never met Jesus(pbuh) in real-life Paul wrote in the bible that he met him in a vision... is that trustworthy at all?
Don't forget Paul killed early Christians and was a enemy of jesus(pbuh) before he said in the bible he became a Christian. Now tell me is that person trustworthy or not?
Lizzio1980 2 weeks ago
@Lizzio1980 Sorry brother if I misunderstood your previous comment. I was thinking that you are Christian.
nctrio7791 2 weeks ago
@nctrio7791 PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS CHOSEN BY JESUS TO BRING THE FULL TRUTH ***THE ETERNAL LIFE GIVING GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST***
FIRST 1) TO THE GENTILES = NON JEWS
SECOND 2) TO THE KINGS= CAESAR EMPEROR OF ROME
THIRD 3) CHILDREN OF ISRAEL
WHY BECAUSE GOD PLANNED TO SAVE THE NON JEW FIRST THEN THE JEW THROUGH JESUS CHRIST AND THERE IS NO MORE ANOTHER REVELATION AFTER JESUS CHRIST SINCE JESUS IS ETERNAL AND EVERLASTING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IS THE FULL AND FINAL REVELATION.
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove How can Paul be chosen by Jesus when they never met in person? Jesus had apostles, close friends and helpers, and, the only person in the world he chose was Paul the killer of Christians.
nctrio7791 1 week ago
@nctrio7791 ACTS 9:10 AND THERE WAS A DISCIPLE AT DAMASCUS NAMED ***ANANIAS*** AND THE LORD CALLED ANANIAS IN A VISION AND ANANIAS SAID HERE I AM LORD AND THE LORD SAID ARISE AND GO INTO THE STREET CALLED STRAIGHT AND ENQUIRE IN THE HOUSE OF ONE CALLED JUDAS FOR ONE CALLED SAUL OF TARSUS FOR HE IS PRAYING.
AND I HAVE SHOWN HIM A VISION THAT YOU ANANIAS WILL COME AND PRAY FOR HIM THAT HE MAY GAIN HIS EYE SIGHT BACK.
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@nctrio7791 THEN ANSWERED ANANIAS ***LORD*** I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE ABOUT THE EVIL WHICH SAUL HAS DONE TO YOUR CHURCH AT JERUSALEM AND HERE IN DAMASCUS HE HAS ARRIVED WITH AUTHORITY FROM THE CHIEF PRIESTS TO ARREST ALL WHO CALL ON YOUR NAME JESUS!
BUT ***THE LORD SAID ANANIAS*** GO YOUR WAY FOR I JESUS CHRIST HAVE CHOSEN HIM [APOSTLE] TO BEAR MY NAME BEFORE THE GENTILES AND KINGS AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL.FOR I WILL SHOW SAUL HOW GREAT THINGS HE MUST SUFFER FOR MY NAME.
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@nctrio7791 ACTS 9:17-18 AND ANANIAS WENT HIS WAY AND ENTERED INTO THE HOUSE AND PUTTING HIS HANDS ON SAUL SAID ***BROTHER SAUL***
***THE LORD JESUS*** WHO APPEARED DIRECTLY TO YOU ON YOUR WAY TO DAMASCUS HERE HAS SENT ME ANANIAS TO PRAY FOR YOU THAT YOU MAY RECEIVE YOUR EYE SIGHT AND BE FILLED WITH **THE HOLY GHOST***
AND IMMEDIATELY THERE FELL FROM SAUL'S EYES AS IF IT HAD BEEN COVERED WITH SCALES AND HE RECOVERED HIS EYE SIGHT AND AROSE AND WAS BAPTIZED.
JESUS CHOSE PAUL YES
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
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@holyspiritdove Hey, hey, hey.. Hey.... Can you answer my question pleeeeaaase??
This is an important question man. Come on.
MastaaAce03 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove Can you please tell me which one is Gospel of Jesus. Matthew, Mark. Luke or John? Did you know that if you take all words that are ascribed to Jesus in entire Bible you would barely be able to make a newspaper column. Did they tell you all that in the church and you are repeating the same all over again without any intention to understand what you are actually saying?
nctrio7791 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove Hold on for a second. How is Jesus law giver when Jesus actually followed the law of Moses? Jesus is not God's only begotten son in the Bible. Are the Father and the son one and the same person? According to you they are if I understand your comment very well. As for love and forgiveness your statement makes no sense. We are talking about God and not about movie star. If God wants to forgive you he can just forgive you for He is God.
nctrio7791 1 week ago
@MastaaAce03 JESUS GAVE THE LAW JESUS IS ***THE LORD OF THE SABBATH***
ONLY JESUS KNOWS WHAT THE TRUE MEANING AND INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW IS ITS PURPOSE ITS USE AND ITS LIMITATIONS .
PROOF JOHN 8:1-12 LAW OF MOSES SAYS STONE THE ADULTERER
JESUS WAS CHALLENGED OR TEMPTED BY THE PHARASIEES TO SEE IF HE WILL BREAK THE LAW SINCE JESUS CLAIMED TO BE ***THE SON OF GOD***
JESUS SAYS LET THE MAN WHO HAS NEVER SINNED THROW THE FIRST STONE= PURPOSE OF GOD'S INTENTION REVEALED MERCY
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Look man.. You can go to your friends and say that you 'won' but do not reply to me by beating around the bushes and avoiding my question.
I actually want to know, what don't you get about that? I'm being sincere. Instead of crying and screaming, can you do your job and answer this sincere question about your religion? Or like i said before if you do not have the appropriate knowledge regarding the subject, refer me to somebody who does. I will post it again in next reply.
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
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@holyspiritdove Here it is:
You said before that the fulfillment mentioned in Matt 5:17 occured while Jesus (pbuh) was on the cross because he said "It is finished" (Btw i can make up like 100 different meanings of this to match other views). Therefore, the Law should not have been changed even '1 jot' until the fulfillment, which according to you is crucifixion. But my question was:
Then why does Jesus (pbuh) give different laws while he was alive still?
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Btw, watch this video about a Muslim who "the Bible led to Islam" and is now a revert from Christianity:
/watch?v=IYMKQKSV0bY
It's pretty long so check the description for key points.
MastaaAce03 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove 1 Timothy 1:17
Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever.God cannot die, yet Jesus was killed .The Bible does not say that only his “human nature” died; it says that Jesus died, which would include all of Jesus (100%).1 Corinthians 15:3
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures.
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD
THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF YAHWEH
ACTUALLY LITERALLY DIED ON THE CROSS AS JESUS HIMSELF PREDICTED MANY TIMES AND AS THE HOLY JEWISH ISRAELI PROPHETS PROPHESIED MANY TIMES AND AS THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS MANY TIMES???
IF YOU ARE TRULY CONVINCED AS PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS BY JESUS APPEARING TO HIM WHO WENT ABOUT SAYING PREVIOUSLY THAT JESUS IS NOT GOD JESUS IS NOT MESSIAH JESUS NEVER ROSE FROM THE DEAD
THEN YOU ARE NEAR TRUTH.
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Jesus(pbuh) is not a begooten son of god. The verse which Christians use to prove that Jesus is the Begotten son of God is from Gospel of John chapter 3, verse 16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His [e]only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" Begotten is the lower animal function of sex. That's the reason in the revised standard version of the bible the word begotten is thrown away from the bible
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider REVISED STANDARD VERSION JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED [THE] BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD MANY TIMES.
ACTS 13:32-33 AND WE THE APOSTLES OF JESUS CHRIST BRING YOU THE GOOD NEWS ***THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST*** WHICH WAS PROMISED BY YAHWEH TO OUR ISRAELI JEWISH FATHERS AND HAS NOW BEEN FULFILLED TO US JEWS THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD TO BRING CHRIST TO THE WORLD BY RAISING JESUS [RESURRECTION] AS PROPHESIED IN PSALM 2 :7
THIS DAY HAVE *** I YAHWEH HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU JESUS MY SON***
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Brother i think u didn't understand my post i said The Word Begotten in Gospel of John chapter 3, verse 16 ""For God so loved the world, that He gave His [e]only BEGOTTON Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life" If Bible is the word of God, then why this word begotten is thrown out of the bible From John 3:16 in the revised standard version of the bible tell me? BCoz It was a fabrication. Get ur facts right mate.
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider IT IS NOT THROWN OUT BROTHER IF YOU ASK ANY TRANSLATOR OF REVISED STANDARD VERSION DOES THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION TRANSLATORS BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD THEY WILL SAY YES BECAUSE IN [RSV]
PSALM 2:7 JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
ACTS 13:22-23 JESUS CHRIST IS CALLED THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
HEBREWS 1:5 JESUS CHRIST IS THE BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD
ASK A ENGLISH TEACHER WHAT ONLY SON AND BEGOTTEN SON MEANS =OWN SON
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove If u read the bible, bible got son's in tonnes. "Israel is my firstborn son" [Exodus chapter 4, verse 22] .
It is mentioned in the book of Psalm chapter 2, verse 7 " “You(David) are my son; today I have become your father"
It is mentioned in the Gospel of luke chapter 3, verse 38 that Adam(pbuh) is a son of god.
It is mentioned in the book of Romans chapter 8, verse 14:
"For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the son's of god"
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider JESUS IS [THE] SON ALL OTHERS ARE A SON BIG DIFFERENCE
THE SON MEANS ONE AND ONLY REAL OWN BELOVED BEGOTTEN SON
SUPERNATURALLY BY HOLY SPIRIT SPOKE BY THE HOLY MOUTH OF GOD.
ALL OTHER SONS OF GOD ARE CREATED MORTAL BEINGS BY JESUS CHRIST
JESUS CHRIST IS IMMORTAL ETERNAL HAS NO BEGINNING AND HAS NO END
ALWAYS WAS ALWAYS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE HOLY FOREVER GOD
BUT DISGUISED HIMSELF AND CHANGED HIS APPEARANCE TO LOOK LIKE A MAN BUT HE IS NOT MAN JOHN 1;14
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove You Quoted Acts 13:32-33, I am Quoting u from the new international version of the bible and the word begotten is not there " We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33 he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: 'You are my Son; today I have become your Father.'( Acts 13:32-33). Where is the word begotten my dear friend???
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Now lets analyse Psalms 2:7 to see if the word BEGOTTEN IS THERE, i am again Quoting from New international version
"I will proclaim the decree of the LORD: He said to me, You are my Son; today I have become your Father" Again where is the word Begotten? And i don't think u even know ur bible. Here God is talking about David(pbuh) not Jesus(pbuh). Read ur bible properly.
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider READ THE WHOLE PSALM 2 VS 2 SAYS THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE GATHERED TOGETHER AGAINST THE LORD ***YAHWEH*** AND AGAINST YAHWEH'S ANOINTED = CHRIST WHO IS THE ONLY SON OR BEGOTTEN SON SAME MEANING
[THE] ANOINTED ONE AND ONLY SUPREME ANOINTED DIRECTLY ANOINTED BY GOD NOT BY ANY HUMAN PROPHET LUKE 4;14-21 COMPARE TO ISAIAH 61;1-2
PROOF ITS ABOUT JESUS CHRIST AND NOT ABOUT DAVID ACTS 4;25-28
EMPHASIS ON VS 26 *** AGAINST YAHWEH THE LORD AND AGAINST HIS CHRIST
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@4423ghostrider DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FILTHY FOOLISH IMAGINATION AND ISLAMIC BLINDNESS HAS PERVERTED YOUR THOUGHTS.
HEAR THE WORD OF THE LORD.
MATHEW 3:9 GOD CAN TAKE STONES AND MAKE A SON FOR ABRAHAM [WITHOUT ABRAHAM'S OR SARAH HELP EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE DEAD 4000 YRS AGO.]
WHEN GOD BEGETS HE IS NOT HUMAN AND DOES NOT NEED A PARTNER.
GOD SPEAKS & FROM GOD'S HEART JESUS WHO IS ETERNALLY DWELLING AS GOD WITH YAHWEH IS TRANSFORMED INTO A BABY IN MARY'S WOMB BY HOLY SPIRIT
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove ok Now u brought forward a point let me ask u few Questions related to it:
Verses that show a difference between the nature of God and the nature of Christ
1)Jesus is very plainly called a man( not a divine man)many times in Scripture: John 8:40; Acts 2:22; 17:31; 1 Timothy 2:5, etc. In contrast to this, the Bible says, “God is not a man…” (Num. 23:19), and “...For I am God, and not man...” (Hosea 11:9).
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider WE CHRISTIANS AGREE GOD IS NOT A MAN
JESUS IS ETERNAL AND DISGUISED HIMSELF TO LOOK LIKE A MAN BUT IS NOT A MAN.WHY ???
JESUS WHO IS GOD WAS ETERNALLY WITH YAHWEH AND HOLY SPIRIT.THEN YOU ASK IS THAT NOT THREE GOD'S NO THEN YOU SAY HOW
JUST AS YOU ARE SPIRIT SOUL AND BODY AND YOU ARE MADE BY GOD IN GOD'S IMAGE YOU ARE 3 IN 1 SO ALSO GOD IS 3 IN 1
SPIRIT = HOLY SPIRIT
SOUL= YAHWEH
SPIRIT BODY CAME TO THIS WORLD IN THE FLESH = JESUS CHRIST= 1 GOD
HEBREWS 2:9
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove
2)God is spirit (John 4:24), yet even after his so called resurrection Jesus said of himself that he was not a spirit, but flesh and bone (Luke 24:39).
3)) Numbers 23:19 also specifically says that God is not “a son of man.” In the Gospels, Jesus is often called “a son of man” or “the son of man.” If God became a human being who was called “the son of man” this creates a contradiction.
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider NUMBERS 23:19 GOD IS NOT A MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE= MEANS GOD IS NOT A LIAR LIE ALL HUMANS
GOD IS NOT A SON OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD REPENT MEANING=
GOD DOES NOT NEED TO REPENT FROM LYING AS HE IS NOT THE SON OF SINFUL HUMAN WHO ARE LIARS
JESUS CHRIST IS NOT A MAN SINCE HE NEVER LIED= TRUTH JOHN 14:6
JESUS CHRIST IS NOT SON OF MARY OR SON OF JOSEPH NATURALLY MEANS BORN BY UNION BETWEEN MARY AND JOSEPH
JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD.= FROM GOD'S HEART JOHN 1:18
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@4423ghostrider YES GOD IS SPIRIT AS PER JESUS THIS GOD ALSO HAS A SOUL AND A SPIRIT BODY WHICH TOOK ON DIVINE HOLY PURE UNDEFILED FLESH SUPERNATURALLY.
AND GOD SAID LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE GENESIS 1:26
AND YAHWEH SAID TO JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR OWN IMAGE GENESIS 1;26
PROOF JOHN 1:3 AND ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY JESUS AND NOTHING EXISTS THAT JESUS DID NOT CREATE.
MORE PROOF HEBREWS 1:10-11 YAHWEH SAYS TO JESUS YOU CREATED THE HEAVENS AND EARTH
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove Some occurrences of the phrase "son of man” in the New Testament are Matthew 12:40; 16:27 and 28; Mark 2:10; 8:31; John 5:27. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the “son of man” is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6; 2:8; 3:1; 3:3; 3:4; 3:10; 3:17; 3:25). Human beings, including Jesus Christ, are called “son of man,” and are thus carefully distinguished from God, who is not a “son of man."
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider JESUS CHRIST IS [THE] SON OF GOD MEANS ONE AND ONLY SON ETERNAL NOT CREATED HAS NO BEGINNING AND HAS NO END
THE WORD [THE] MAKES A DISTINCTION THAT HE IS THE ONE AND ONLY
JESUS CHRIST IS ALSO [THE] SON OF MAN MEANS UNIQUE ***DIVINE*** OR SUPERNATURALLY SON OF MAN= SEED OF ABRAHAM BY POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT
ALL PROPHETS WERE CALLED A SON OF MAN ONLY JESUS IS CALLED
[THE] SON OF MAN. PROOF JOHN 1;1-18
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove
4) God was not born, but is eternal. In contrast to the eternal God, Christ was Born that is, he had a beginning. Matthew 1:18 reads ‘Now the birth of Jesus Christ….”
5)Jesus is called the “Son of God” more than 50 times in the Bible. Not once is he called “God the Son.” I can keep on Quoting from ur bible to prove Jesus(pbuh) is not God and You will not find a single statement in the complete Bible where he is saying "He is God" or asking his diciples" To worship him"
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove Jesus(pbuh) never claimed divinity and it is clearly mentioned in the book of acts, chapter no. 2, verse 22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you, by miracles, and wonders, and signs, which God did by him, in the midst of you, and you are witnessed to it" So Bible says Jesus(Pbuh) Was a man, and All the miracle were done by God through Jesus(pbuh)
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider EXCELLENT...Point.
shan00r 2 weeks ago
@4423ghostrider ANY TIME THE BIBLE REFERS TO JESUS AS A MAN THE CONTEXT AND INTENT IS ***DIVINE MAN*** NOT ORDINARY SINFUL MAN BORN BY SEX THROUGH A FATHER AND MOTHER AS ALL HUMANS AND PROPHETS ARE.
THIS DIVINE MAN JESUS SAYS IN HIS OWN WORDS
JOHN17:5 O FATHER GLORIFY ME WITH YOUR SELF***DIVINITY*** THE SAME DIVINE GLORY THAT I SHARED WITH YOU BEFORE THE WORLDS WERE CREATED.
JOHN 1:1-14 HEBREWS 2:9-10 GOD JESUS DISGUISED HIMSELF AS A DIVINE MAN JESUS PHILIPPIANS 2:6-11
holyspiritdove 2 weeks ago
@holyspiritdove If there was So much Prophesies bout Jesus Dying....What Is the Point in Predicting it. People do Predict Only when They r NOT SURE bout the future.
And U call Jesus A God.
If He Really came 2 Redeem our Sins...Why did He say Judas will BETRAY me...He Shud've Said he will HELP me.
Why Did He say...Take SWORD 2 defend.
Why Is he SAD & CURSING God...Eli Eli Why have U forsaken me.
Why is he RUNNING AWAY & HIDING In the Garden.
Jesus was NEVER Interested in Dying.
shan00r 2 weeks ago
@shan00r Brother the Problem is these Christians don't understand their Bible. The bible doesn't support christian belief in trinity at all, one of the scribes once asked Jesus(pbuh) as to which was the first commandment to which Jesus(pbuh) merely repeated what Moses(pbuh) said, namely-
"SHAMA ISRAELO ADONAI ILA HAYNO ADNA IKHAT" this is the Hebrew quotation which means "Hear O israel, The lord, our god is one god" (Mark 12:29). He Didn't Say I AM GOD, rather he said, there is only one God.
4423ghostrider 2 weeks ago
@shan00r THE PROBLEM MUSLIMS HAVE IS IF JESUS IS GOD WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE A MAN AND ACT AS IF HE IS A MAN .
BEFORE JESUS CREATED ALL THE WORLDS
YAHWEH JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT AGREED THAT JESUS WILL HUMBLE HIMSELF OR LOWER HIMSELF FROM HIS GODLY POSITION
1) SURRENDER HIS GODLY KNOWLEDGE TO YAHWEH
2) SURRENDER HIS GODLY POWER TO YAHWEH
3) SURRENDER HIS GODLY GLORY TO YAHWEH
AND CHANGE HIS APPEARANCE TO LOOK LIKE A BABY AND ENTER HUMANITY BY POWER OF HOLY SPIRIT HEBREWS 2:9-10
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r NOW BECAUSE YAHWEH DETERMINED EVEN BEFORE JESUS CREATED ADAM AND EVE BY YAHWEH'S WILL THAT MAN WILL SIN AGAINST YAHWEH JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT THAT YAHWEH LOVED US SO MUCH THAT HE DECIDE TO SEND JESUS TO THE WORLD TO DIE ON THE CROSS
FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD TO SAVE MAN FROM THEIR SINS BY HIS ATONING HOLY SACRIFICE OF JESUS
1) JESUS MOST HOLY SOUL ISAIAH 53:10
2) JESUS MOST HOLY BODY HEBREWS 10:10
3) JESUS MOST HOLY BLOOD HEBREWS 9:11-14
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r JUDAS JOINED SATAN AND SATAN ENTERED INTO JUDAS AND JESUS CALLED JUDAS A DEVIL JOHN 6:70-71
THE DEVIL WHO USED JUDAS THOUGHT THAT IF HE KILLED JESUS ON THE CROSS THAT THE DEVIL COULD DESTROY JESUS AND STILL HAVE THE WHOLE WORLD IN HIS CONTROL AND TAKE ALL HUMANS TO HELL ALONG WITH HIM ON JUDGMENT DAY.
BUT THE DEVIL DID NOT KNOW THAT JESUS WILL DESTROY THE DEVILS LEGAL RIGHT AND AUTHORITY BY CARRYING OUR SINS IN HIS BODY AND DIE ON OUR BEHALF AND RESURRECT I CORINTHIANS 2:8
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r MATHEW 26:52-54 THEN SAID JESUS TO PETER PUT BACK YOUR SWORD IN ITS PLACE FOR ALL WHO DESTROY BY THE SWORD SHALL BE DESTROYED BY THE SWORD.
DONT YOU KNOW PETER THAT I CAN ASK MY FATHER RIGHT NOW AND YAHWEH WILL GIVE ME MORE THAN 12 GROUPS OF WARING ANGELS TO SAVE ME FROM DEATH ON THE CROSS
BUT IF I DECIDE NOT TO DIE ON THE CROSS HOW WILL I FULFILL THE THE WILL OF YAHWEH WHO SENT ME FOR THIS VERY MISSION TO SAVE HUMANITY AND FULFILL SCRIPTURE SPOKEN BY HIS PROPHETS.
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r JESUS NEVER CURSED GOD YOU ARE MISTAKEN
JESUS WAS FULFILLING PSALM 22:1 SPOKEN BY PSALMIST DAVID OF ISRAEL
PSALM 22:1 MY GOD MY GOD WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME
THE MEANING OF THIS PHRASE IS A MYSTERY BUT I WILL CLARIFY IT FOR YOU
BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WISDOM .
WHAT IT MEANS IS MY FATHER MY FATHER WHY HAVE YOU TURNED AWAY YOUR FACE FROM ME AND HAVE HIDDEN YOUR FACE FROM ME WHICH I SAW ETERNALLY.
PROOF JOHN 6;46 JESUS HAS GOD'S ACTUAL FACE ETERNALLY BUT WAS CUT OFF ON THE CROSS.
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r THE REASON JESUS HID HIMSELF IS NOT BECAUSE HE IS A COWARD
BUT BECAUSE THE TIME SET BY YAHWEH FOR JESUS TO DIE AND FULFILL BIBLE PROPHECY HAD NOT YET COME AND SO JESUS WOULD NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO CAPTURE HIM AND IF ANY ONE CAUGHT HIM HE WOULD DISAPPEAR FROM THEIR GRIP AND SIGHT
PROOF LUKE 4: 14-30 VS 30 SAYS JESUS PASSING THROUGH THE MIDST OF THEM DISAPPEARED AND WALKED RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDST OF THEM AND SO PASSED BY
JOHN 7:30 JESUS HOUR TO DIE HAD NOT YET COME SO ESCAPED
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@shan00r JESUS WAS WILLING TO DIE ON THE CROSS JOHN 10:17-18
MARK 14:38 GOD JESUS= SPIRIT OF JESUS IS WILLING TO OBEY YAHWEH TO DIE A PHYSICAL DEATH TO OFFER UP JESUS MOST HOLY BODY
BUT THE DIVINE MAN WHO IS NOW CARRYING ALL THE SINS SICKNESS AND SORROWS OF THE ALL HUMANITY IS UNABLE TO BEAR ITS WEIGHT IN HIS FLESH MATHEW 8:16-17
AND JESUS IN THE FLESH IS AFRAID OF BEING CUT OFF SEPARATED FROM HIS FATHER WHO HE HAS SEEN ETERNALLY.
PROOF MARK 14;27-28 ZECHARIAH 13;7 JESUS DEATH
holyspiritdove 1 week ago
@holyspiritdove YO! Where have you been?? It's been a while and you still didn't answer my question.. But its ok! Cause i have a new one.
You said Jesus pbuh got rid of the Law after his crucifixion and you say this is fulfilling it. But in fact, getting rid of it means abolishing it, which Jesus pbuh said he was NOT gonna do. So can you help me out here, i JUST realized your contradiction here, lol i am pretty slow.
You can answer previous question later cause i forgot it...
MastaaAce03 1 week ago
@MastaaAce03 THE LAW HAS LEGAL AUTHORITY OVER ALL HUMANS TO JUDGE AND PUNISH
BY THE LAW ALL HUMANS REALIZE THEY ARE SINNERS AND HAVE OFFENDED GOD AND ARE UNWORTHY TO ENTER GOD'S HOLY HEAVEN WHERE HE DWELLS IN UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT.
FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
JESUS CHRIST CLARIFIED THE TRUE MEANING OF THE LAW AND ACCORDING TO GOD'S MEANING WE ARE ALL ADULTERER'S AND MURDER'S
SO THE LAW BRINGS CONDEMNATION MATHEW 5:21-22 & VS 28 -32