Sorry to diss, but this is not even close to as good as the original. If you want to hear the original, you can go to the jazz at lincoln center website hall of fame and look it up under Roy Eldridge
@johnsurs : no one (not you, not me, not Wynton, etc) can play Roy's solos as good as Roy Eldridge himself (today). The purpose was not to compete, to do better or even to do "as good" as Roy. This video comes from a Press Conference, where we have talked about the fact that most of (not all) the young trumpet students have no interest for Satch, Roy, and anything from the past. Jon just demonstrated that he has respect for all these giants and studied Satch, Roy, Diz, etc
@BunkLaplace Well that's good to hear. I'm a young trumpet student, and I have a particularly larger interest in the early players, because I find the music more interesting. The only thing is that if you are going to play Roy's solo, you should try to replicate the style better, but Faddis got into his stander show off mode. He played it way too fast, did the modern squeak playing up high. He needs to mellow out, not feel like he has something to prove all the time.
@johnsurs22 When Roy was older and could no longer play he would do gigs and sing. On these occasions he would invite Jon to play trumpet; Jon would play Roy's solos, Roy would sing. Apparently Roy felt that Jon knew his style better than any other trumpet players, and would do his style justice. If it is good enough for Roy himself it is good enough for me, and should be for you too. Please educate yourself before commenting on things that you don't know about.
@jbbm1983 I wouldn't defer my judgement. Faddis in the 70s is different from Faddis now, and I can't comment on what he sounded like back then. Seeing only this video, a few things stand out: the timbre is completely different- Faddis follows the Armstrong open model more than he does the Eldridge tight throat (mouthpiece) style. He also plays a lot of acciaccaturas, not at all characteristic to Eldridge or any swing music. And it must be 60 beats fast. If you like it, that's fine by me, but
@jbbm1983 don't tell me it's the same style. I can't imagine the same piece of music being played more differently. This is version is so fast it doesn't even swing. In the head that Roy plays, you can hear a clear swing from the very first G to F. Faddis sounds like he's almost playing a trill in the head it's so fast. But don't take it from me; just listening to the original will point out the disparity
@johnsurs22 You miss the point. No one plays it exactly the same as Roy, but Jon happens to emulate Roy's style better than anyone around. Not to mention he is the only one around who has the facility/chops to execute these solos (Wynton included). By the way Faddis plays a 27 throat, somewhat smaller compared to what Pops played.
@jbbm1983 My purpose was not to insult Jon Faddis; it's just that he's obviously a capable player and pro, but sometimes he gets into showing off mode; that's probably why he played it so fast. Obviously, he is a screamer, but this piece only goes to A above High C- many players have the endurance to play this solo. I guess I was just disappointed. I especially don't like when players put in modern style embellishments onto swing songs. 27 is surprising- about halfway between Dizzy and Roy then
@chasefreak. Jon may have played a tighter throat in the past, but he has been playing a 27 for the last 10 years or so. This information coming straight from Faddis, as well as Laskey and Greg Black (both of whom have made his mouthpiece during the last 10 years or so).
Very nice!
givemetoast 3 months ago
Sorry to diss, but this is not even close to as good as the original. If you want to hear the original, you can go to the jazz at lincoln center website hall of fame and look it up under Roy Eldridge
johnsurs22 6 months ago
Great!
ComeLetUsWorship 6 months ago
MAESTRO.....FUERA DE SERIE IMPRESIONANT...
paolojazz1000 6 months ago
Sweet!
DavesTrumpet 7 months ago
@johnsurs : no one (not you, not me, not Wynton, etc) can play Roy's solos as good as Roy Eldridge himself (today). The purpose was not to compete, to do better or even to do "as good" as Roy. This video comes from a Press Conference, where we have talked about the fact that most of (not all) the young trumpet students have no interest for Satch, Roy, and anything from the past. Jon just demonstrated that he has respect for all these giants and studied Satch, Roy, Diz, etc
BunkLaplace 6 months ago 2
@BunkLaplace Well that's good to hear. I'm a young trumpet student, and I have a particularly larger interest in the early players, because I find the music more interesting. The only thing is that if you are going to play Roy's solo, you should try to replicate the style better, but Faddis got into his stander show off mode. He played it way too fast, did the modern squeak playing up high. He needs to mellow out, not feel like he has something to prove all the time.
johnsurs22 4 months ago
@johnsurs22 standard*
johnsurs22 4 months ago
@johnsurs22 When Roy was older and could no longer play he would do gigs and sing. On these occasions he would invite Jon to play trumpet; Jon would play Roy's solos, Roy would sing. Apparently Roy felt that Jon knew his style better than any other trumpet players, and would do his style justice. If it is good enough for Roy himself it is good enough for me, and should be for you too. Please educate yourself before commenting on things that you don't know about.
jbbm1983 3 months ago
@jbbm1983 I wouldn't defer my judgement. Faddis in the 70s is different from Faddis now, and I can't comment on what he sounded like back then. Seeing only this video, a few things stand out: the timbre is completely different- Faddis follows the Armstrong open model more than he does the Eldridge tight throat (mouthpiece) style. He also plays a lot of acciaccaturas, not at all characteristic to Eldridge or any swing music. And it must be 60 beats fast. If you like it, that's fine by me, but
johnsurs22 3 months ago
@jbbm1983 don't tell me it's the same style. I can't imagine the same piece of music being played more differently. This is version is so fast it doesn't even swing. In the head that Roy plays, you can hear a clear swing from the very first G to F. Faddis sounds like he's almost playing a trill in the head it's so fast. But don't take it from me; just listening to the original will point out the disparity
johnsurs22 3 months ago
@johnsurs22 You miss the point. No one plays it exactly the same as Roy, but Jon happens to emulate Roy's style better than anyone around. Not to mention he is the only one around who has the facility/chops to execute these solos (Wynton included). By the way Faddis plays a 27 throat, somewhat smaller compared to what Pops played.
jbbm1983 3 months ago
@jbbm1983 My purpose was not to insult Jon Faddis; it's just that he's obviously a capable player and pro, but sometimes he gets into showing off mode; that's probably why he played it so fast. Obviously, he is a screamer, but this piece only goes to A above High C- many players have the endurance to play this solo. I guess I was just disappointed. I especially don't like when players put in modern style embellishments onto swing songs. 27 is surprising- about halfway between Dizzy and Roy then
johnsurs22 3 months ago
@jbbm1983 Scott laskey (who makes his MPC) told me it was #29 throat, pretty tight, but his backbore is HUGE
chasefreak 1 month ago
@chasefreak. Jon may have played a tighter throat in the past, but he has been playing a 27 for the last 10 years or so. This information coming straight from Faddis, as well as Laskey and Greg Black (both of whom have made his mouthpiece during the last 10 years or so).
jbbm1983 1 month ago