The Fencing Response Compilation Video

[GameShange]

This video was hard to watch at points, but the message got through. The only criticism I have with this video, as I do with other videos pertaining to incidental head trauma (mma highlights, boxing compilations) is that there are rarely follow up links for any of the scenes in the video. I really want to know how severe an injury corresponds to the shown 'fencing responses'. Some of them look extremely bad (1:50), I'm not going to lie.

But a great vid. Learned something.

[MrRyan158]

what a wanker on part 5:03

[cwseet]

great compilation!

[MNico1992]

i havent watched the rest of the video but i gotta say the blue-shirted dude in the first clip is a scumbag. i would never be able to just leave someone like that after knocking them out, even if it was on accident. to hell with the game, at least pretend to give a shit about whether or not the guy is okay.

[hairesonyourchest]

Moral of the story: Don't play Football.

[BMeister22]

Thumbs up if Tim Tebow brought you here. His is at 7:32.

[tphillpot]

thank u for this video would like more please

[TheHunted113]

hahahaha



[TimbobJames]

Is it really that hard to watch?

[OxfordComma1019]

That was difficult to watch, but I'm glad I did. Good to know this sort of thing.

[johnburris]

@TheBigCookie424 For a historic "fencing response," find a video of Jack Johnson getting knocked out by Jess Willard.

[PrinceEnvious]

I couldn't get through this whole thing.

[Joe6172006]

wheres the hit on nathan horton.... come on

[BaanuRass]

@Joe6172006 This was uploaded a full year before the 2011 cup finals.

[oKritical]

Does anybody know the name of the clip @ 1:54 ?

[HillbillyPrince]

Double fencing response, search youtube for the following:

Hardest and Sickest Football Hit Ever

[shiron236]

@HillbillyPrince I've seen the hit before. More like double paralysis. It's not a fencing response at all.

[bishopolis]

3:15 . CHINSTRAP, Einstein. kthx

[chipsiho]

жесть))

[nOmIcRo4u]

Is it just me or does the first guy look like hes smilingly saying " Yarrr ya got me!"

[TopRugbyLad]

Freaky stuff! :L

[lshocket]

Watching the FSU/OU game and immediately though of this video. OU made a Seminole sandwich.

[TomoHDGaming]

The impact on 1:55 is immense, even I felt it.

[madamimadamimadam]

Did not expect to see Conan O'Brien in there.

[dragos7puri]

I want to thank you uploader for the video. Not only is it educational and I feel like I learned something important today but it is also artistic in a sense.

Thank you.

[TheBigCookie424]

@dragos7puri

Thanks for the kind feedback!

[dArN0k]

guy at 3:00 is still fighting :D

[Chowdder]

I know this is not good for the brain, but.....

Is it bad if I found 4:28 to be a little bit funny?

[vetgypsy]

thank you for this highly educational video.  I didn't know what a fencing response was, but when I saw the hit that Nathan Horton took in the Stanley Cup and the way his arms were just frozen in the air...that image froze in my brain as very, very bad. When I saw it again from Donald Jones after the hit he got in the Bills-Broncos game, I finally did some research and found this video. More people need to see this.

[TheBigCookie424]

@vetgypsy

Agreed. This video was made so that it would be easier to "spread the word" about concussions and the fencing response. If seeing enough of these responses will "freeze" the negative association of fencing in your brain, then I have done my job!

[v8americanpower1]

thanks for this video brother. as someone who has suffered concussions i'm interested in learning ALL i can about them

[codtehsuck]

and that sir would be some.... lame ass music for this video.  Fail

[TheBigCookie424]

@codtehsuck

Yeah...about as big as your failure to notice the same comment by another guy which got down-voted into oblivion, but not quite as big as your failure to provide a useful post in a public forum. Nice try though. Thanks for your participation.

[codtehsuck]

@TheBigCookie424 I don't have time to scroll down and read previous comments on pages and pages... that is a bit weird. There is no such thing as a "try" in comments on a youtube video. There cant be an assessment tool on this to say what is useful or not. Sounds like you may have taken my comment a bit personal since it is your video. Considering the content of the video the tune selection is just a bit soft. That is all.

[TheBigCookie424]

@codtehsuck No need to scroll down; it's on the top of the uploader comments section. Also, it's not personal at all. The "try" I was referring to was your attempt at expressing your disagreement with the music choice in a clever manner. The reference to post utility addresses your inability to at least provide constructive criticism (i.e. a suggestion as an alternative). Thanks for the elaboration though. My reasoning for choosing the music is also in the uploader comments.

[TheBigCookie424]

@codtehsuck This video is intended for educational purposes, not entertainment; hence the tone of the music.

[krhprodctionz]

2:08 Domi on Ulf... love it

[lshocket]

So what does this have to do with sward fighting?

[shiron236]

@lshocket It's obviously you're trolling considering the evidence displayed in your profile. I really hope you are, or else you're suffering from a severe case of retardism. >_>

[lshocket]

@shiron236 I wouldn't rule out retardism considering I just became aware I have a youtube profile that lets people know what I've been watching.

[Illketurtles]

@lshocket Sword* and nothing. The fencing response is just the scientific name for what happens in the video.

[RickMerchantttt]

@lshocket It's named after the fencing position, called "en garde".

[wpsu]

we're learning more about concussions everyday. Check out this video to learn more of what happens and what we're doing to fix it:

youtu.be

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[atsaka]

Soundtrack: Enigma variations, by Elgar

[gabriellsan]

LOL!!! at 4:28 . I've never seen a DRAW fight, amazing

[1822138]

The football ones looked the most brutal

[banjojackson2]

How long did it take to find all these clips? Great video.

[ineeda40oz]

at 3:25 it looks like he definitely knocked the wind out of himself too

[cclose27]

What inappropriate music.

[BeyondOrwell]

@cclose27

indeed. benny hill theme would have been a much better choice.

[TheBigCookie424]

@cclose27

It was tough deciding on the music for this video. Rob Dougan was selected because he took a classical piece (which I was thinking about because I wanted something instrumental without lyrics) in Elgar's Enigma Variations and modernized/intensified it. I made the selection based on the juxtaposition between the morose orchestral intro/interlude/outro and the high-impact bass-and-drum segments to emphasize both the traumatic nature and violent impact of the injuries for both...

[TheBigCookie424]

@cclose27

...those injured and the spectators involved. I realize that some people make the association with The Matrix, but the association here was unintentional, if only for intensity purposes. You may also notice how the cymbal crashes coincide with the impacts to the head. The ultimate point was to get these images ingrained in the viewer's mind so that once you see a fencing response, you won't ever forget it (hence the increased awareness).

[psalm405]

@TheBigCookie424 Not sure what cclose is talking about... I love Rob Dougan and this track particularly and think that it's entirely appropriate. It goes well with the subject matter.

[jimmyPain2121]

@cclose27 how is this inappropriate? this is probably the most ubiquitous piece of video music there is

[alwebb84]

@cclose27 he matches the music well... I think Its a good job

[nvlptl]

fuck tebow

[emptyslicepeace]

Sports is bad for your health, see?

[XBillums]

@emptyslicepeace lemme guess, you've got weight issues

[emptyslicepeace]

@XBillums I do T.T

[mattf82]

great hit Jamar Wall.... guns up

[grizz281]

1:25 .... is he seizing? my gosh...

[XBillums]

scary stuff

[urbanpitch]

ooohh, terrible clashes. 

[goaliebros]

What ever happened to the first guy?

[asistancepleaseyes]

Do some mma fall practice . Learn to absorb the impacts , let us say that in like 1 year you will be like cats .

[TheBigCookie424]

@asistancepleaseyes

It's hard to fall correctly when you're not conscious. Most of the concussions come from impact before falling.

[XBillums]

@TheBigCookie424 in football as a WR though, I'd say most come from whiplash. You land on your butt, then shoulders, and then your head snaps back.

[Yeowoh]

@asistancepleaseyes It's called slap falling, and you're retarded. It wouldn't have done anything in 99% of these situations.

[L00SELUGNUT]

Good video

[feelthejoy]

Regarding the first one, is that normal in soccer for people to keep playing when a guy has obviously been severely injured? Obviously the ppl farther away from him were unaware but seemed like the players near him took a while before they gave a crap and started looking to see if he was ok...

[TheBigCookie424]

@feelthejoy

That's a great point. Actually, the purpose of that first video is to show how unaware most people in fact are when it comes to noticing the signs of a serious concussion. Oftentimes, spectators and athletes alike are more concerned with the hit itself than the aftermath, let alone any physical indicators of the severity of the injury. As a result, the fencing response is particularly aimed at providing an explicit indicator of such head injury severity for immediate treatment.

[lgb3000]

@TheBigCookie424

Hey, I wrote to you 3 months ago regarding t he regaining conciousness videos? I don't suppose you've had any luck finding "after knockout" videos?

[TheBigCookie424]

@lgb3000

Yes, I received your first comment and replied. See below. Unfortunately, there is simply too much variation in latency of regaining consciousness combined with tv coverage and the swarming of trainers/aids around the players on the field to be able to accurately assess the nature of regaining any sort of consciousness. What I can tell you, though, is that regaining consciousness is a measured parameter in animal studies.

[TheBigCookie424]

@lgb3000

In the fluid percussion model of TBI with rats (as was utilized in the study for the fencing response), there is a reflex called the "righting reflex" which is just to measure the time between the induction of a traumatic brain injury and when the rat fully regains its consciousness/motor control. I would suggest you look into that for further info. Thanks.

[danielinsporto]

@feelthejoy they are playing rugby in the first clip, not soccer.

[Maestrochimongas]

@danielinsporto that's not soccer. i think its an irish sport

[matikalyere]

@feelthejoy: looks like it's Australian rules football...But yeah, to keep playing like that when a man's down....it's kinda weird.

[niijeaonolla]

@feelthejoy that is not soccer :P

[abefroman10]

@feelthejoy That's not soccer...

[lgb3000]

Great video, would be good if you could show when they are coming around from the impact? Regaining conciousness

[TheBigCookie424]

@lgb3000

The only problem is that, most of the time, video coverage of these hits more often capture the hit itself than the ensuing results. It's already pretty difficult to find videos capturing the fencing response in addition to the actual impact since most people aren't paying attention to the response itself (hence this highlight video). Likewise, not many of these individuals come to or regain consciousness in a timely fashion; it can be anywhere from a few seconds to several minutes.

[lgb3000]

@TheBigCookie424

Hey, I wrote to you 3 months ago regarding t he regaining conciousness videos? I don't suppose you've had any luck finding "after knockout" videos?

[drewmutt]

An absolutely incredible video! I'm taking EMT classes, and this has been really helpful. Awesome work!

[TheBigCookie424]

@drewmutt

Thanks. By all means, share with your colleagues if you like. The preliminary goal with the publication and now this video is to spread awareness among the public, especially those who might be witnessing and/or treating such head injuries.