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  • He does not belive in aleans. He does not know how universe will end.He cant teatc us how to walk troug time.

  • i was hoping if this is the right video to ask this question but dose anybody know the name of this one documentary that describes dinosaur like aliens on other planets what they might be like and look like it was first aired sometime after the year 2000 i believe i have been looking all over netflix for it it might be from discovery channel but i dont know but if anybody reading this comment dose plz tell me

  • @TheMohguy hey, not sure if this is the one were talking about but check it out /watch?v=u6lkmK3kEEE

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  • speed of light is like a wall

  • I just thought of something:what if you could go faster than the universe was expanding???what if you could catch up to the edge and go beyond?what then?

  • Stephen hawking is due for a colaboration act with T-pain

  • Stephen Hawking is my definition of genius.

  • since you cant go faster then the speed of light is there any way we can travel trillions of kilometres in the galaxy in a relatively short period of time?

  • @lvll138inrs No. There is no way according to the known and accepted laws of physics. The closest thing we could try is the idea of "warping" not as in speed but as in bending two points in space time together to create a "Gateway" then crossing the gateway at which point space unfolds. So basically instead of going from Point A to Point B. You take Point A and bend it to Point B making the space between them nonexistent. So pretty much you instantly get there via black hole.

  • @lvll138inrs it is possible to travel faster than light, lets say we have conquered the speed of light which is possible, just stick another engine on ur spaceship dumbass!!(no offense intended)(just proving a point) what is some magic force gunna stop the engineers from fitting another engine on the spaceship?? honestly

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  • How can humans mind describe something independent on observer? Very deep thinking or meditation can only lead to knowledge, that theres is intelligent mind as source of Universe and we are its "children" as ever taught in religion... in various cultures

  • @xlapj001 Where did this intelligent mind come from?

    After all, something cannot appear out of nothing. That is just absurd. There must be a creator.

    So, who created the creator? Who designed the designer? Who is the god of god?

  • @GluttonForSex Your questions are IDEAS OF YOUR MIND... First find out what is your mind and all your questions maybe fall away like dust in the light of MIND... Your God:)

  • @GluttonForSex We have science, quantum physics, religion, mystics etc. all this as reflection of Mind on its being... You may believe that e.g. You as man has the power of healing, the crucial point is that it MAY work... as electricity, magnet and coil... what is more powerful magnet and coil driving all civilisation forward or that of Jesus: Get up and walk! Cause even this MAY function... and its very crucial about functions of our own Mind we may discover...:)

  • @GluttonForSex See also Bertrand Russels paradox on non existence of set of all sets... this just shows the problem of thinking about Mind as another object of Mind itself... and paradox of "GOD" in fact, or being and its entities...

  • @GluttonForSex ...Mind cant think about itself as object - this is the paradox - as object it DOESNT EXIST...:)

  • @GluttonForSex Another questions would be about theory of games, synergy efect, detector of lies... about energy.... how it feels to LOVE, HATE etc., all these threads lead again to ONE source of Universe... be blessed Jesus Lord our Master who died for all of us to show that we are brothers and should cooperate... to start off the greatest synergy efect on Earth:)

  • @xlapj001 you missed the point.

  • religion was the search for truth from the olden days as man was too curious about his surroundings , he filled answers with his premitive knowledge and founded religion that's true to every religion present today,and sometimes human gets too much depended in that ,he will give his life or take other's so being an atheistit is possible to free ones' mind and think rationally than for a rituialand with religion you gain nothing but psedo ideas but with SCIENCE you can get reveal the truth!!!

  • @venusdharan rational thinking is another invention of mind as well as religion - even rational people steal and kill others sometimes and very rationally of course:)

  • Even, On the video called "Stephen Hawking Universe", Dr. Hawking started his explanations based on "all phenomenon can be explained by natural laws", then he concluded stating: "the universe is coming from infinite causal chain"...- in short: the question "where come natural laws from?" is metaphysical by definition. I think Dr hawking has been overestimated by atheist community, may be due to the human being needs follow leaders for feeling well. God is the greatest leader.

  • Stephen Hawking:

    "Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing."

    "God did not create the universe"

  • Only fools believe in  God, wake the fuck up.

  • @Scabia25 you know when you look at it from a global scale, the almost the entire world believes in God. And always has believed in God. Ask yourself, why are there still so many who believe God? Could they all just be wrong? While you got it all figured out. Look into it if you give a damn

  • @qwer1234555sd whether u like it or not, scabia is right. alot of the world still looks to religion because our civilization is relatively young and not 3 centuries ago did mankind start to accept science as the answer. religion is stories and myths made by early humans to explain things that were so bizarre to them they could not comprehend. as we learn more and more about sciences, religion will become more obsolete. to believe your "god" created our immensely vast universe is naive nowadays

  • @brosweets26 I'm a Christian. The purpose of Christianity is not to explain things that we don't understand. There might as well be an infinite number of things we don't understand, but one thing you could say about Christianity is that it's about accepting that there are things that you don't understand. If science comes up with answers for some things then great! But even Stephen hawking agrees that there are probably aspects of reality that we will never be able to comprehend

  • @qwer1234555sd like the constituent parts of atoms, but EVIDENCE proves the earth was not created 6000 years ago, and a flood didnt happen 4000 yeards ago, and 8 people dint survive, and jesus wasnt born 2000 years ago, christianity has caused more deaths than all bombs ever detonated. WHERES YOUR GOD NOW IDIOT

  • @harryGShunt Christianity does not say when the earth was created, or when did a flood happen. That's all absolutely irrelevant to the message of Christianity, and quite frankly who cares! That's more of a science topic. And it is documented history that there was a man who was born called Jesus, and that he was very popular, and influential, and that He was killed. He is the most famous man on the planet you moron! Basically all u wana do is attack christianity. "All Christians must be idiots!"

  • @harryGShunt cuz, no. christianity has never killed anyone. Its the power hungry dictators who did it. the popes of the past who waged wars of conquest in the name of jesus christ. its not christianity the religion who has ever had anyone (except jesus) killed, its the people who claim God as a weapon to smite their enemies. A pope burning someone for perusing science in the name of God 500 years ago is no different to a dictator now killing opposition in the name of public welfare.

  • @Neoli2300 Christianity had been the catalyst for many people's deaths. David Koresh used christianity as an excuse to burn up Waco. The Reverand Jim Jones used christianity as an excuse to push his deluded followers into a mass suicide pact. Religion as a whole is the catalyst for war, death and suffering. World War 2, the jews were tortured and killed becasue of their religion. September 11th happened because of religion. It's ironically evil.

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  • @qwer1234555sd the reason I am a CATHAR (similar to catholic but with important differences) isn't because I don't understand things. Its because I agree and accept the good that Jesus, moses and the others (excluding the roman catholic church from 391AD) have said. You don't have to believe in God to agree that you should treat others as you do yourself as you don't have to be an atheist to agree that the Earth isn't the center of the universe. try and think logically, not conflictingly.

  • @Neoli2300 Christianity isn't just about treating others with love though. It's about God, who He is, why were are here, and what He wants for us. Christianity is about getting to know God.

  • @brosweets26 be careful about how you word a debate. saying believing in god is naive nowadays is gonna piss people off.

  • @Neoli2300 lol i dont give a shit if it bothers anyone. it pissed ppl off and thousand years ago and it will today. its clear throughout history that seriously religious ppl are the further behind they will fall. look at the bible belt in the united states. it produces some of the stupidest and most ignorant ppl in the world not because ppl there are religious but because they refuse to accept anything else. and dont fucking threaten me over the internet loll.

  • @qwer1234555sd you know I don't know if its already happened yet but if it hasn't it will be soon, in a decade at most but muslims have overtaken christians and catholics. I want to ask u if, because they have a very similar belief to us, the difference being they disagree with us over abraham and isaac, but besides that they believe in God. Do you think it is a good thing that they will overshadow us, religiously even if they believe in the same God and creator? would you ever join their faith?

  • @Neoli2300 islam is nothing like christianity. Islam is the only growing religion today, but its not growing though preaching, its growing through persecution. There are very big differences between the quran and the bible. you cant compare. islam is a political ideology and uniquely covers all aspects of a muslim's life. From how to dress, to economics. muhammad their prophet was a military leader, responsible for countless deaths. He hated the trinity, and he hated the jews and christians

  • @qwer1234555sd

    I dont think the christians treated the jews or muslims very well, just look at Spains history. They all lived in peace together until the christians wanted more power. Face it, all religions are pointless in the quest for peace and understanding.

  • @benaberry i believe without religion we would be in a worse situation. It's not like atheists are perfect. Without religion its hard to find a sense of purpose and reason for progress. Christianity just makes the most sense if you truly study it. The problem is people are lazy

  • @qwer1234555sd

    I agree as a matter of history, religion was a way to answer lifes questions, but we must move on, as we learn more and more religion will only either hold us back or make us live in contradiction. Religion is dogma, you cant change the words or it then ceases to be religion. Also atheists are not a world view, only a single postion to a single question - is there a god. I dont think any religion makes sense today, religion does not equal peace and well being. Thanks.

  • @benaberry If you want to know true Christianity, go Orthodox. Christianity is the only religion that doesn't have flaws. The problem is that it has suffered from many schisms and now there is confusion. But Orthodox Christianity remains true and constant.

  • @Scabia25 only assholes say that kind of shit. shut the fuck up

  • TIMMEEEYYYYYY

  • whats the deal with that show do like 3 or 4 shows then its over? why did they not make a real series out of it?

  • @MrBoowho1234 god is based on magical stories not theory's because theory's make sense to intelectual people like scientists and dumb people like you cant understand these theory's and turn straight to god

  • Nothing is ever proven in science, always new way to look at things everytime

  • The most intelligent guy on the planet now???

  • @099psp they are trying to sell this thing...you cant blame the guy

  • Stephen Hawking = My life.

  • man if this dont get you burned at the stake I dont know what will....Phasers on kill everyone!!!!! WHOOOO HAHAHAHA

  • I think Britney Spears is more intelligent.

  • @ElTresDeMayo1808 than Stephen Hawking?

  • We must ask the question why do some people still believe in God? Why are these religious people still amongst us? How does a man made fantasy survive so long? Perhpas the answer is simple as this. People who believe in God simply want to believe in God. For those who do not believe in God need not. They have escaped into the world of logic and reality and look at those who do believe in God asking, WHY?

  • @uniquemetal Theists feel comforted by believing that an omnipotent being is constantly watching over them. They need something to guide them along when life becomes difficult. Sure, it's a seemingly delightful notion, but it's very silly. I fear that religious fanatics may always coexist with those who choose logic and evidence over blind faith. This is just my view.

  • i like listining to this guy he got serios points. but i don't know why he can't belive in GOD.also, how did he come to all these concsions about black holes????? he wasn't into one

    still great to watch

  • fuck theoretical physicists

    even i have imagined like him and i was like 10

    steven is alot similar to michio kaku.

  • hes the smartest man in the world but he dunno how to get up and walk?

  • @DGKewlAid "dunno how to get up and walk" hahhaha! that's a good one, retard.

  • i bet im smartd then him he dont no how to make a time machine

  • I believe that Mr Hawking is our Einstein of modern time, we should listen to him(it) of advantage and cloloniser the space to protect the human race as well as our continuity in the time. Our earth is not eternal. Spleen this how please!!! MICHEL of Canada

  • visit my channel 4 d full ep

  • have u ever heard a rapper take his music as far as the universe listen to my song called off earth i guarantee its like nothin u ever heard before just go to my page

  • guys do u really believe aliens exists haha ok thats true but stephen hawking doesnt lie and we all will die in 200 years if we do nothing what about that?? eh now bam done

  • fake and gay!!!!!

  • I just finished watching the series. The only way I can describe it is to say my brain flipped over in my head and I started breathing in my stomach. That's how it felt in a physical sense as my mind tried to come to terms with the concepts.

  • another one of these fights i c

  • IF YOU WANT TO KNOW TOP SECRET INFORMATION...SEARCH "SFM PRESENTS THE LAST HOUR: INTRODUCTION" TOP SECRET. MATTERS OF LIFE

  • im glad that he is British you might think he is american but he just haves an american computer

  • Whoo!!!! Go stephen hawkings I metaphorically love u

  • @chinchillas1000

    he is like the scientists god/jesus.. ;)

  • Damn,if he could walk and had his normal voice,he'd be the most famous person in the entire Solar System! :O

    Aliens....Aliens! AYLEEONZ

    They could be NEWHERE!

  • I don't have discovery channel anymore. :(

  • CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE TO FIND THE SOUNDTRACK TO THIS SHOW? not this commercial just the tv version.

  • There is no fact that a "god" exists or not. People believe in gods because they have faith. You need to have faith to believe in anything whether you are athiest, christian, buddust, ect. I do not think that it's right tho when someone who does not believe in a god says that people who do are not open minded. I could say the same with people who are athiests. EVERYONE has faith in something. No matter what it is, people need to stop telling others that they are wrong.

  • @kjkuhl I have faith in observable evidence and rational, logical thinking. I do not have faith in multi-millennium-old texts. It is highly illogical to believe that for which there is no evidence that has been found in the past two thousand years.

  • So smart he's stupid

  • wtf people god is the Santa clause your parents forgot to tell wasn't real. people are so in denial it is unreal. truth i, when you die you six feet under and you rot in the dirt with the worms. that is really hard to take so they made a god so you don't fear dying and that becoming your fate. hell i wish heaven and god were real too, but it just isn't. plus billions upon billions have died heaven would have to grow in size drastically every year.

  • What is with all the religious shit on this page? No one wants to hear it, religion causes more strife than good! Now GTFO!

  • god is the answer to the end of the world he is the only one who know when its gone happen nd thats it! god is not based off a theory science is!

  • @MrBoowho1234 science is based on observable evidence. science is the reason your typing on your computer device in the first place. science has results and answers and is ever changing. don't enjoy the comforts created by science of 21st century life and than bash it and call it faulty. your faulty.

  • @bobbybenjamin you are sooo right! Religious people and creationists they believe in something that they even dont have physical evidence for! Sure some old book written by some wacked people 2000 years ago! Science has results based on experiments and observations being done in the real world! We couldnt do sh**t here without science!

  • @bobbybenjamin So is your spelling. *you're.

  • @coreva *yawn* grammar faggot detected. because youtube is a mid-term exam. idiot.

  • this nigga does not knw when the world is gonna end nd why the hell do yall people be lookin up to him like if he god nd shit plz he just anotha nigga in a wheel chair who people feel sorry for! #getthefuckouttahere with that bullshit

  • @MrBoowho1234 Personally I am not afraid of hell, because only my soul will go there, souls cannot feel pain, your brain feels the pain. I'll write to you in May 22 2011 and say "the world didn't end, rapture failure"

  • Whether religion is real or not it has helped guide me morally for many years now so I do not doubt its significance.

  • damn i wanna see it....what happened to the pirates???? u know....the torrent people?! :\

  • american discovery channel looks way better than the canadian one -_-

    sometimes i wish i lived in america...

  • oh for fucks sake....look beyond religion

  • God does NOT exist!!!! Science is absolute...if God does exist it is certainly not in the way your religious wackjobs look at life. Seriously, try reading a book that hasn't been watered down over the century's! And FYI in the early forms of man there was only ONE religion... as humans evolved that religion branched out. Seriously...don't be so naive and grow up! IS that what YOUR God wants?

  • God does NOT exist!!!! Science is absolute...if God does exist it is certainly not in the way your religious wackjobs look at life. Seriously, try reading a book that hasn't been watered down over the century's! And FYI in the early forms of man there was only ONE religion... as humans evolved that religion branched out. Seriously...don't be so naive and grow up! IS that what YOUR God wants?

  • @bissman0101 Yes!

  • atheist

  • Give Stephen Hawking a crack team of Television editors/producers and what you have, is gold!

  • He should spend his time in the church instead of talking about things that only God knows about.

  • @36allah Lol, you're kidding right? If your god only knows about this stuff, then how come others do as well? Sort of mucks up your argument doesn't it.

  • @36allah

    lol god, your a retard. it's 2010!! god is not real

  • @JoshMufc101

    Who made you exist? Who created the world?

  • @36allah

    dunno, but thats not any evidence for your god

  • @JoshMufc101

    If there is a creation.. there must be a "creator". This creator is God who created you and created the universe.

  • @36allah

    ok well who created god? h wait god doesn't need a creator does he? and your creator is allah, if you were born 1000miles away your god would be christian god.

  • @JoshMufc101

    Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the same. God sent Judaism and the Jews changed (or edited) the religion themselves. Then, he sent Christianity, and christians changed the religion. Then, he sent Islam and promised he will preserve it till the end of the world. All other religions are man-made and incorrect.

  • @36allah

    "God sent Judaism and the Jews changed (or edited) the religion themselves. Then, he sent Christianity, and christians changed the religion. Then, he sent Islam" wow thats a first, what evidence do you have for this? or where in any holy book did it say this?

  • @JoshMufc101

    read the Holy Quran!

  • @36allah

    why? that won't change a thing

  • @36allah then who created the creator?

  • @Atheist603

    since he made your brain and he made limits for your logic, he made it impossible for you to figure out how he exists.

    He told us in the Quran that he has no son, mother, or father. He said he is the only God and has no peers.

  • @36allah your an idiot with an imaginary friend. I mean what evidence do we have of a god? how do you define god? cuz i know my creators weremy father and my mother. god didn't create me. so what is god? how do you define him?

  • @36allah plus what's the difference between santa and god?

  • @Atheist603

    what the hell is santa? I never heard of it.

  • @36allah Ok so let's run through this: A being that nobody, except for Schizophrenics and people in stories 2 thousand years ago, have seen has created everything that we know and is out there....somewhere. This supposed being is also apparently male, since everyone refers to "god" as "he". Also, if this might, all-powerful being that you say exists, than why, please tell me, would he create people who do not believe in him. If he exists, than why has nobody seen him?

  • @merkonerko2

    He created humans and created Satan "the devil". The satan has the ability of making bad things (such as adultery) to seem good for you. The satan place is HELL, so the satan wants to take you to hell with him. Then, he gave you a mind and made this life as an exam for you. Do you beat Satan and go to heaven or he will take you with him to hell?

  • @36allah: So, you cannot trust anything that is spoken or written. What exactly are you going to base your life upon?

    I can think of only one absolute. To observe nature and attempt to discern truth from that. It would appear that neither Satan nor God can change nature, since observations made under suitably controlled conditions always yield the same results. True, one hears of miracles, but that's "heard" or "read", right? My observations seem to show that nature is true. How about you?

  • @puncheex

    There is only one book that never change since 1430 years ago. This book tells the truth about every single thing in your life, and why you are here. It is preserved because God said he will preserve it till the end of the world. Also, there are millions of people who memorize the Quran with their eyes closed.. if somebody changed a letter in the Quran, they can easily notice it.

  • @36allah i pee on your KORAN bitch!!!! take those NON HOLY chopping heads off instruction and wipe your ass with them and shove them down you 4 year old wifes throat!

  • @alexei4323

    translated from the Quran: "when ignorant people address you, just say salam (peace)"..

    so, salam

  • @36allah alaikum salam

  • @puncheex

    how can you trust nature?? scientists say: nature doesn't follow ideal laws.. simple example: daily forecast scientists (based on calculations and science) might say we are 99% sure it will rain on sunday.. and when sunday comes it did not rain.

    The point is that you cannot trust nature.. you should trust the one who is controlling the nature.

  • @36allah: Science has shown us that weather is a chaotic process, and so it is impossible to have a timely, accurate forecast for anywhere except in a probabilistic sense. Science has shown us that many situations are like that, and that nothing written in any holy book, and prayers said to any god are sufficient to improve that fact. Where is your proof that anyone is "controlling nature"? It surely doesn't seem likely to me.

  • @puncheex

    let's say I placed a box in an empty room. I came back to the room after one year, I found it displaced. I will be 100% sure that somebody has displaced it. If it is not me and it is not you, then who did it?

    the same thing with weather, if I didn't change it, and you did not, then who changed it??

    God gave many scientific clues in the Quran.. and he indicated that he is in charge of everything, including you.

  • @36allah: There are all kinds of possibilities: earthquake, any number of other people. i have no idea how you think that such a thing is proof of a deity. Weather and other phenomena, dissipate energy (mostly, but not exclusively) from the sun, our own local thermonuclear reactor. It does so because of teh interaction of the solar system/'s parts and pieces, and it is the object of science to detail how that happens.

  • It has been learned in the last 100 years that the true nature of nature is that it is essentially random in its finest workings (quantum mechanics). The only reason that nature seemed deterministic to earlier scientists is because they only saw the results of huge numbers of quantum operations. Only in the last 100 years have we probed the quantum level, and we discover nature is ruled by probability. Weather turns out to be one of those places where the nondeterminism is especially acute.

  • @puncheex

    another example: let's say John has cancer, and the doctor gave him all medicine he needs.. suddenly John died..

    the doctor used medicine from nature and he is natural human and John is natural human.. but the doctor could not guarantee that the medicine is successful or not.

    We can NOT trust nature.. we trust the only one God..

  • @36allah: Au contraire, we must trust nature. It is the only touchstone we have that doesn't seem to want to trick us, to sell us something. Cancer is a disease that is, so far, only partially understood; perhaps when it is completely understood it will be possible to prevent it from happening at all. It is better understood now than it was 60 years ago, and the survival rates reflect that. Over 2000 years of prayers to all kinds of gods have not done so; that we know.

  • @merkonerko2 because he loves you. he loves his creations. if he didn't give us the will to chose him then it wouldn't really be love and he wouldn't really be a soverign god

  • I think this series was a bit insulting to my intelligence.

  • @EvilCreature88 you've gotta realize this was for television so he needed to appeal to all kinds of ppl in the general public who may have had absolutely no idea about anything in this area.

  • Steven Hawking should pay Morgan Freeman to speak for him.

  • I watched these episodes and i strongly agree with his theories about aliens and how travelling to the past is impossible.

  • i understand most he talks about but i dont really believe that any of it is right.

  • I lol at all of the people trying to have a meaningful argument (more like a flame war). Just live your life how you want to. No need to argue to other people (who won't listen) about the matter.

  • @hibbitish You're very right. Some people are so set in their beliefs that they either are blind to evidence (or a lack thereof) or they simply hate being wrong so much that they won't give in. Like me—I try to be open-minded but I fail to see any meaningful evidence that would invalidate my beliefs.

  • fucking fucking GREAT show a must watch

  • this is ridiculous id rather just read the bible..... H.e O.nly L.eft Y.ou B.asic I.nstructions B.efore L.eaving E.arth----HOLY BIBLE

  • @TURKIYE5150 Please...go kill yourself.

  • @tfergy123 violence in response to my post...psalms 14:1 "the fool has said in his heart,there is no God. They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;there is no one who does good"

  • Id have to agree on the no god side of things if you actually get your head out of your ass in look at the world you will see there is no god and if there is he doesn't give a shit about you and if you think he does that is beyond my comprehension of stupidity. if there is a god why is the natural diseases not man made but caused my nature? i get free will can do terrible things but why does the innocent 3 year old girl get killed with a unpreventable disease?

  • @rollak3 Jude1:16"These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage."..... your telling me to pull my head out of my ass and look at the world.anyone can do that.. i look at the world as it is AND of the God beyond this world. you ever think that the 3year old girl might have grown up into sex slavery? or eventualy grow up and starve or commit suicide or get raped? you should read the bible.

  • @TURKIYE5150 lol ya right then why didn't Hitler die of a disease or why doesn't he just give the people who grow up to rape others diseases your whole comment is dumb a pointless argument basically saying he can see the future and he sees a bad future for this girl so he doesn't give her a chance and decides to make her suffer his way rather than her way, and if that is true then god really is a fucked up thing.

  • @TURKIYE5150

    Yeah! Read your Bible

    Exodus 21:7-11 tell us the rules of selling your daughter into sex slavery

    1 Peter 3:1-2 Women should be subordinate to men

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29 Rape victims must marry their rapists

    Psalms 137:9 "Happy those who seize your children and smash them against a rock."

    Yeah... read that book!

    It's the book where we get our morals to be slave owning, woman raping, child murdering racist thugs.

    LEARN IT so you can do exactly the opposite of what it preaches

  • @boyinthedrain you have taken words from the old testament and have twisted them to your own personal sadistic liking.. did you know that Satan tempted Jesus in the desert? you know what he did to throw him off? he said bible verses with little twists in it..exactly what your doing. the new testament IS Jesus Christ. those things you speak on are either A) not true B) twisted to make the followers look bad when the book is actually talking about unGodly people like yourself..

  • @TURKIYE5150

    1 Peter 3 is the Old Testament?

    And how are we supposed to interpret those passages. And don't give me the whole "The Old Testament is no longer valid because of Jesus" excuse or else you'll have to explain Matthew 5:17.

    By the way, I don't believe in Satan or God... they are both magical boogie men.

    As for being Ungodly. I don't have the morality of God in the Bible. My standard of morality is MUCH HIGHER than the God in the Bible.

    Thank Goodness he's a fictitious character

  • @boyinthedrain .... fair enough i cant argue with you forever because it will not change anything..i really hope that your right...you know about the whole ficticious magical boogie man thing..because if your wrong well it would suck to be you...see its funny.. if im wrong about religion and theres no heaven or hell then whatever i didnt really lose... the only person who can lose is you and all other atheist's...lol think about it..if im wrong then where do i go? if your wrong.where do you go?

  • @TURKIYE5150

    AHHHH... Pascal's Wager! possibly the most moronic argument in history.

    Pascal's Wager, which says "You might as well believe in God because what do you have to lose" fails on all counts

    It assumes:

    1) God is stupid and can't tell fake belief from real belief

    2) God is evil and will punish us simply for disagreeing with him

    3) We can control what we believe even without evidence

    4) That we picked the right God.

    If you are Christian, it would suck for you if the Muslims are right!

  • @boyinthedrain good job.. still didnt answer my question though ... so where do atheists go when they die?

  • @TURKIYE5150

    I am going to be an all you can eat buffet for worms.

    But I make the lives of the people around me better and teach my children to not waste their lives pondering their afterlife but live good lives helping others.

    And while those worms are having a kick ass feast, the people left alive will say "He was a good person... I'm glad he was here."

  • @boyinthedrain wait...waste your time pondering the afterlife?? ok since when people die there gone for good...this is agreed upon. and life is short because in the time it takes someone to be born and die people who are already dead never come back so why wouldnt you ponder whats after death since its alot longer than a life time . im sorry if it doesnt make sense the way i tried to articulate it but i think you know what i mean.

  • @TURKIYE5150

    Yes, I believe pondering the afterlife is a waste of time. You can study every book, every theory and every concept and in the end you learn exactly gotch.

    You can pick which mythology is most comforting, but in the end you didnt learn anything real, just which folklore has survived.

    And that time could be spent doing something useful, like making someone else's LIFE better. All we know is that we are alive on this earth. Everything else is just speculation based on old stories

  • @TURKIYE5150

    Where are you going?

  • @boyinthedrain i know this is just a laugh fest for you. but im going to Heaven.. why? because i simply believe that God is real.. Jesus came and died and was resurrected 3days later its as simple as that.. and i try my hardest to follow and live my life righteously even though i fall extremely short of whats asked of me but all he cares about is that you atleast TRY

  • @TURKIYE5150

    No it isn't a laugh fest to me.

    I just hope for your sake the Muslims aren't right because if they are, I'll save room for you in the burning lake.

  • @boyinthedrain lol you know whats funny about islam? you go to the burning lake for 100years and then you go to heaven. so if you do save me some room make it more in the front so we can push our way out faster

  • @TURKIYE5150

    It's a deal!

    You see! We can find common ground!

  • @boyinthedrain of course we can find common ground i mean really even though we may disagree on religion and science etc we are both still humans living in the same world.. its been a good talk and no i dont hate you and wish hell on you because your a "heathen" im not one of those really..im trying to help people because like i said in my life Jesus has worked..if something helped you alot wouldnt you tell other people about it even though they think your crazy? :)

  • @TURKIYE5150

    Here's where I stand... all I care about is what you DO.

    If you do good deeds and are a good caring person making your patch of the world better, then who cares what your motives are?

    If you do it for Jesus, or Allah, or Buddha or for Satan or because you are trying to get laid or just because you think it is the right thing to do... it doesn't matter.

    The only thing that matters is living a good life and making the world better.

    Motivations are dime a dozen