I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of energy conservation. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents. Making a 15 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production, value of the energy produced yearly about $10 000.
I did post a comment on the latest video from HHOPWR about platinizing titanium plates. This process is used for professional electrolysis. Only one side from the plates needs to be platinized with platinum. The comment also explains why. I found that information on a dutch wiki page, the English wiki page did not show this information.
Greets, iT
I dunno about the costs but it is possible to do the platinizing process at home.
Watching your video's has energized me. I was moving toward titanium because of the leeching issues but didnt give much thought to the resistance of the metals. I knew nickel was less resistant but never put in the time as i thought it would be way too expensive. But im liking the results i have. I just did a test that gave me my largest mmw of any of my previous devices. 5.75mmw @75.6%. Im stoked!
Steve, There is more there. Increase your KOH strength to 33%. Use a PWM if you have to but with your power supply and the size of your cell you should not have to. Over amp the device until you get to the max temp your cell can handle. Then be prepared to be amazed. Lowering the resistance in your cell is key. Hotter water will dramatically lower your energy loss. Then just for shits and giggles add about 1 cup of urea to your solution. Just sit down whenh you calculate your results.
I set this cell up to use alot of koh. I wanted to start out the tests with a weak mix. I've got 2 liters of distilled and im doing 2 tests then adding 2 more tsp. to the mix. I have a got a hydrometer to measure my concentration. I deffinently will get to the 33%. My Astron power supply has a voltage control so i will be fine on the power side. Thanks!
I was thinking that maybe with this test, since it is taking more then five minutes, that the collected gas inside the bottle has time enough to warm up and expand when it gets at room temperature.
It is just a theory though. But when my theory is correct then your results will be more accurate with a higher gas production and a cell that is running a bit longer so the water is warmed up a little bit.
Nevertheless it is looking good, I like the setup and the experiment.
what kind of nickel are you using? Nickel 625 alloy or something else?? Nickel isn't cheap but if you want a total non-corrosive metal, Nickel or Titanium is the way to go. Not sure why the sand blasting is needed. I figure the smoother the surface the less likely the bubbles will stick to it. I'm also working on building a much larger system. I'm moving away from fuel economy uses and more for a pure clean fuel source to power propane electrical generators.
I blasted them to create more surface area to get a greater current density. thus a smaller device. As i do more tests and post new videos keep in mind that this cell is only 7 4x6 plates.
His plates are Nickel 200. If you want to try do not even think of any other alloy. Just know that they are very expensive but will work wonders compared to stainless.
Altern8, I think Bob Boyce stated that titanium will emulsify quickly when in an HHO cell, unless you have it coated with another metal, or multi-metal. So, you mite want to think about that before you fork over Big Bucks for the plates. And remember, Titanium is very hard to machine.
Steve, thank you for posting this vid. I've been wondering about nickle plates in an HHO cell, though I must admit that I was thinking of electroplated copper core, with the part under the gasket still copper for a more even electric flow across the plate.
Only change I would make to this design of yours is, positive connection caddy corner to the negative. Electricity takes the path of least resistance, having the connections so close will make you produce at the top of the cell.
I dont have any experience with copper cores but i would think the copper would leech through into the electrolyte. If you could keep that from happening i think that would be an ideal cell with very little resistance. much less than nickel.
I also agree alternating the pos, neg would be advantageous
I'm a huge fan of the dry cell design. The idea of making the gasket your electrolyte and gas manifold is wonderful, sure stops the current leakage from a hole drilled through the plate.
One of the things that is so cool about this type of design is - it's a pump with no moving parts.
My new dry cell design has 4 electrical connections on each + & - plate, one in each corner. It's a +nnn- 316L cell.
Copper that has had the edge masked off so that it looks like a picture frame, then electroplate it 5 times. The part that isn't plated will be under the gasket, the nickle is the only aria that will come into contact with the electrolyte.
Were you asking what what kind of nickle was I going to use for the electroplating ?
As pure of a nickle as I can get my hands on. I'm looking for it on the net today. Making the nickle acetate solution is easy once I can get the crystals.
no i was wondering what the process is for electroplating. Is it an expensive process, is that something i can do or do i need a multi-million dollar machine. thanks
It's cheep and easy to do right in your garage. There are some great "How To" vids on youtube. And if you want to try electroplating other metals, there are vids on them as well.
If you want multi-metal, that is more difficult, but it can be done.
Smack, has stated that the Ti multi-metal plates will last for about only 3 years, at about $100 a plate.
You mite think about copper core electroplated with cobalt.
My concern with nano-coating is the life of the plate, same with the MM coat.
Plates, gaps, nothing matters. Allow me to settle any arguments by providing this video which shows solid proof that it is IMPOSSIBLE for HHO to improve miles per gallon. Watch
I have seen your video before but I took another look to be fair. There is not a lot you can argue there. your numbers make sense.
Now do me a favor. Get your head around this and report back. What reaction happens when HHO comes in contact with gasoline vapor? Prove that on paper and someone may listen. and please be specific with all your numbers to back you up. Thank you
See these two Eletrikride videos for proof that HHO wastes gasoline.
watch?v=QSRUrBnsV6g
watch?v=3BKo0A59TQk
As electrical load increases, the electrical generator GOVERNOR opens the throttle to maintain 3,600 RPM so that 60 hertz power is maintained.
In the first video, his notebook shows run time averaged 579 seconds with 200 ml of gasoline and NO HHO electrical load. He then powered the HHO device with the eletrical generator, but did not inject the HHO.
PART 2 - The governer opened the throttle to maintain 3,600 RPM and the electrical load imposed a penalty that dropped the run time to 392 seconds. In video #2, with the HHO injected, the run time was 491 seconds. The run time DECREASED by 15.2 percent WITH a load and WITH HHO, compared to NO load and NO HHO. That proves the HHO device uses MORE energy than it gives back to the engine.
If the HHO device produced more energy than it uses, then the RPM would have gone up, thus letting the
governer close the throttle, thus consuming the gasoline at a slower rate and INCREASING the run time, thus better fuel economy.
He proved what I am saying in my video very well. I.E. A 500 watt HHO device produces 1.322 Mega joules of energy per hour but consumes 1.8 Mega Joules of energy. A net loss.
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I invented a breakthrough energy source which violates the law of energy conservation. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which violate the law of energy conservation. I am looking for $30 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents. Making a 15 kW generator will cost $1200 in mass production, value of the energy produced yearly about $10 000.
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henrykay01 1 year ago
i know whats wrong here , don't use harbor fright clam meter.... its junk..
superwhiz88 2 years ago
It isn't a HF meter. It's not a $400 fluke either
delvis11 2 years ago
I did post a comment on the latest video from HHOPWR about platinizing titanium plates. This process is used for professional electrolysis. Only one side from the plates needs to be platinized with platinum. The comment also explains why. I found that information on a dutch wiki page, the English wiki page did not show this information.
Greets, iT
I dunno about the costs but it is possible to do the platinizing process at home.
Greets, iT
insAneTunA 2 years ago
excuse me, it was not the latest video about the shiny reservoir, but the video before that one.
Greets, iT
insAneTunA 2 years ago
Damn glad someone other than myself is venturing outside the box. My new cell will be done in a couple of weeks.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Larry
Watching your video's has energized me. I was moving toward titanium because of the leeching issues but didnt give much thought to the resistance of the metals. I knew nickel was less resistant but never put in the time as i thought it would be way too expensive. But im liking the results i have. I just did a test that gave me my largest mmw of any of my previous devices. 5.75mmw @75.6%. Im stoked!
delvis11 2 years ago
Steve, There is more there. Increase your KOH strength to 33%. Use a PWM if you have to but with your power supply and the size of your cell you should not have to. Over amp the device until you get to the max temp your cell can handle. Then be prepared to be amazed. Lowering the resistance in your cell is key. Hotter water will dramatically lower your energy loss. Then just for shits and giggles add about 1 cup of urea to your solution. Just sit down whenh you calculate your results.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
I set this cell up to use alot of koh. I wanted to start out the tests with a weak mix. I've got 2 liters of distilled and im doing 2 tests then adding 2 more tsp. to the mix. I have a got a hydrometer to measure my concentration. I deffinently will get to the 33%. My Astron power supply has a voltage control so i will be fine on the power side. Thanks!
delvis11 2 years ago
I was thinking that maybe with this test, since it is taking more then five minutes, that the collected gas inside the bottle has time enough to warm up and expand when it gets at room temperature.
It is just a theory though. But when my theory is correct then your results will be more accurate with a higher gas production and a cell that is running a bit longer so the water is warmed up a little bit.
Nevertheless it is looking good, I like the setup and the experiment.
Greets, iT
insAneTunA 2 years ago
I perform this test in my garage. the temp was 63 degrees. Thank for the comment.
delvis11 2 years ago
what kind of nickel are you using? Nickel 625 alloy or something else?? Nickel isn't cheap but if you want a total non-corrosive metal, Nickel or Titanium is the way to go. Not sure why the sand blasting is needed. I figure the smoother the surface the less likely the bubbles will stick to it. I'm also working on building a much larger system. I'm moving away from fuel economy uses and more for a pure clean fuel source to power propane electrical generators.
altern8energy 2 years ago
I blasted them to create more surface area to get a greater current density. thus a smaller device. As i do more tests and post new videos keep in mind that this cell is only 7 4x6 plates.
thanks
delvis11 2 years ago
His plates are Nickel 200. If you want to try do not even think of any other alloy. Just know that they are very expensive but will work wonders compared to stainless.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
Altern8, I think Bob Boyce stated that titanium will emulsify quickly when in an HHO cell, unless you have it coated with another metal, or multi-metal. So, you mite want to think about that before you fork over Big Bucks for the plates. And remember, Titanium is very hard to machine.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
Steve, thank you for posting this vid. I've been wondering about nickle plates in an HHO cell, though I must admit that I was thinking of electroplated copper core, with the part under the gasket still copper for a more even electric flow across the plate.
Only change I would make to this design of yours is, positive connection caddy corner to the negative. Electricity takes the path of least resistance, having the connections so close will make you produce at the top of the cell.
Peace.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
I dont have any experience with copper cores but i would think the copper would leech through into the electrolyte. If you could keep that from happening i think that would be an ideal cell with very little resistance. much less than nickel.
I also agree alternating the pos, neg would be advantageous
delvis11 2 years ago
I'm a huge fan of the dry cell design. The idea of making the gasket your electrolyte and gas manifold is wonderful, sure stops the current leakage from a hole drilled through the plate.
One of the things that is so cool about this type of design is - it's a pump with no moving parts.
My new dry cell design has 4 electrical connections on each + & - plate, one in each corner. It's a +nnn- 316L cell.
Next project is electroplated plates.
Keep up the good work, and keep posting.
Peace.
Mike.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
what type of electroplating were you thinking about?
delvis11 2 years ago
Copper that has had the edge masked off so that it looks like a picture frame, then electroplate it 5 times. The part that isn't plated will be under the gasket, the nickle is the only aria that will come into contact with the electrolyte.
Were you asking what what kind of nickle was I going to use for the electroplating ?
As pure of a nickle as I can get my hands on. I'm looking for it on the net today. Making the nickle acetate solution is easy once I can get the crystals.
Peace.
Mike.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
no i was wondering what the process is for electroplating. Is it an expensive process, is that something i can do or do i need a multi-million dollar machine. thanks
delvis11 2 years ago
It's cheep and easy to do right in your garage. There are some great "How To" vids on youtube. And if you want to try electroplating other metals, there are vids on them as well.
If you want multi-metal, that is more difficult, but it can be done.
Smack, has stated that the Ti multi-metal plates will last for about only 3 years, at about $100 a plate.
You mite think about copper core electroplated with cobalt.
My concern with nano-coating is the life of the plate, same with the MM coat.
mikepowers420 2 years ago
thank you
delvis11 2 years ago
Plates, gaps, nothing matters. Allow me to settle any arguments by providing this video which shows solid proof that it is IMPOSSIBLE for HHO to improve miles per gallon. Watch
watch?v=5G9DAmt_jLk
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
I have seen your video before but I took another look to be fair. There is not a lot you can argue there. your numbers make sense.
Now do me a favor. Get your head around this and report back. What reaction happens when HHO comes in contact with gasoline vapor? Prove that on paper and someone may listen. and please be specific with all your numbers to back you up. Thank you
delvis11 2 years ago
PART 1
See these two Eletrikride videos for proof that HHO wastes gasoline.
watch?v=QSRUrBnsV6g
watch?v=3BKo0A59TQk
As electrical load increases, the electrical generator GOVERNOR opens the throttle to maintain 3,600 RPM so that 60 hertz power is maintained.
In the first video, his notebook shows run time averaged 579 seconds with 200 ml of gasoline and NO HHO electrical load. He then powered the HHO device with the eletrical generator, but did not inject the HHO.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
PART 2 - The governer opened the throttle to maintain 3,600 RPM and the electrical load imposed a penalty that dropped the run time to 392 seconds. In video #2, with the HHO injected, the run time was 491 seconds. The run time DECREASED by 15.2 percent WITH a load and WITH HHO, compared to NO load and NO HHO. That proves the HHO device uses MORE energy than it gives back to the engine.
If the HHO device produced more energy than it uses, then the RPM would have gone up, thus letting the
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
PART 3
governer close the throttle, thus consuming the gasoline at a slower rate and INCREASING the run time, thus better fuel economy.
He proved what I am saying in my video very well. I.E. A 500 watt HHO device produces 1.322 Mega joules of energy per hour but consumes 1.8 Mega Joules of energy. A net loss.
EnergySupply2008 2 years ago
@EnergySupply2008
HAHA i run a little 2lpm cell on my van. I went from 19 to 27 MPG and had it proven it works.
Vistal11 1 year ago