You know whats funny, the Biden quote makes perfect perfect sense. "per se" in Latin means "in itself" so the quote reads "Look, the Taliban in itself is not our enemy.".
Your fighting a war of ideas not a war you can win with guns. terror isn't going to surender, you people understand that right?
@duracell777 It never dies, everyone knows that. It's simply political crime, and neither politics nor crime is going to end in the next few millennia save the apocalypse. We're only fighting back to squelch and maybe contain it.
If that's actually true, what's wrong with that? Funny how liberals accuse Conservatives of hating gay people (and everybody else) yet are always the people who will take an entire group of people, (race or sexuality) and use it to insult someone. So if calling someone Homosexual is an insult, that would certainly mean that they are lower than your current position in your view, but go on, thinking isn't your thing,and thats perfectly fine,just leave the politics to adults
Because they exploit loopholes in the thousands of pages in the tax code. Corporations lobby congress for corporate welfare and tax loopholes. Competitive capitalism we should have 50+ national banks instead of 5 to big to fail that crash the entire economy again. Solution: Get the money out of politics so that the Congress is beholden to the people not the corporations that bribe Congress.
I'm a conservative and agree with the points in this video, but I can say without a doubt that Fox News is absolutely conservatively biased. Though I do have some liberal beliefs like gay marriage should be legal, and that I'm agnostic. Just thought I'd say so, that not all conservatives are blind and not open to new ideas.
Just became aware of Crowder, watched some of his videos and reached the conclusion that his schtick is pro whiner (in spite of his saying several times in those videos that 'nobody likes a whiner'). I'm especially fond of the complaint he calls the Tina Fey doctrine starting at ~1:00 where he whines that celebs 'sometimes put political agenda ahead of the funny...'. Dude's lack of self awareness is stunning cause that's all Crowder and his ilk do, cramming political POV into the funny box!
No mention of Herman "No Chance" Cain and his special lady friend who he liked to help out financially but didn't tell his wife about (but for some reason wasn't having sex with)?
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if i were american id probably vote democrat to be honest, but i love these videos. its always good to have a witty and informed view from the other angles.
and pedobear...hitler was christian and germany was very christian. sheesh, never mind going "back to school boi" maybe you should just figure out how to google stuff.
This year will show the end of the leftist movement.. More and more people are fed up with it all.. and the Republicans had best become more conservative, more traditional, and more inclined to take on the Federal Reserve for real or they will see the wrath of the American people as well.. The Republican establishment best beware, their days are numbered too..
"This year will show the end of the leftist movement.. More and more people are fed up with it all.. "
The GOP hasn't really run any impressive candidates. Newt is a smart guy, but it would be hypocritical for the Christian right to vote for him given his horrible marriages/ divorces and utter lack of respect for women. Ron Paul isn't Jesus enough for most the party... and the rest are deeply stupid.
@hipstermi "Newt is a smart guy, but it would be hypocritical for the Christian right to vote for him...". Hypocritical??? Only by your standards. What are your standards anyway? Let me start the list for you: hatred, anger, judgmental, hypocritical, ignorant of Christianity, hater of God. You get to add the rest.
@hipstermi "Please address all these points directly." Sure, because one word applies to all your "points". Forgiveness, which is the standard of Christ Jesus. So yes, it is YOU who feels it would be hypocritical for a Christian to vote for Gingrich. NOT, as you claim, Christ Jesus' standard.
You claim to know what being a Christian is about, but you obviously know absolutely nothing. Who the heck taught you this stuff...it's all false.
""Please address all these points directly." Sure, because one word applies to all your "points". Forgiveness, which is the standard of Christ Jesus. So yes, it is YOU who feels it would be hypocritical for a Christian to vote for Gingrich."
Yet "christ"ians said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs.
@hipstermi "Yet Christians [spelling corrected by 10com40cal] said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs." And you accuse others of lying!
Of course it had to do with politics - are you crazy thinking it was just because of Clinton's affairs and his filthy conduct in the White House? It had everything to do with Clinton's liberal politics (such as but not limited to partial birth abortion). You're not convincing anyone except possibly the most uneducated.
"Yet Christians [spelling corrected by 10com40cal] said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs." And you accuse others of lying!"
NO lie, dumbass. At the time, plenty of "christ"ians said Clinton should resign due to his AFFAIR. Dan really dumb Quayle did on TV. Gingritch said it. DeLay said it.
"No, they don't, why are liberals, that sell us out, and spit on the church and christians and Conservatives"
Emotional opinions yet again!
Funny how I can state my views and articulate the reasoning. You just get vague, emotional, and they asked 4 or more "questions" in each post, expecting people to write you a Thesis.
@hipstermi "("Think about it, you said Hitler used Christianity to lure in people, yes he did"
No, I said Hitler cited Christianity. You're not using quotes and lying again.
Why did you lie? That's a sin against magical Jesus.)" You just said Hitler did lure chistians, now you say he only cited Christianity? You cite christianity all the time, so what? doesn't mean your a christian does it? A lie is only a sin if you believe in God, since you don't, it's ok to 4 u 2 lie isn't it?
@hipstermi "Think about it, you said Hitler used Christianity to lure in people, yes he did"
Yes...Christian Hitler lured in Christians. Insider knowledge. ok Hipstermi I will hold your hand this time, lets think about this real hard; why would Hitler have to LURE (keyword) christians like the pied piper? Think about a fishing lure on a fishing pole? what happens to the fish?
"i I will hold your hand this time, lets think about this real hard; why would Hitler have to LURE (keyword) christians like the pied piper?"
You need to stop being so Christian stupid about this.
Someone can be of the same belief and get people to agree with him.
And even with your excuses on Hitler...martin Luther predates him. The German CHRISTIAN people have to take responsibility despite your babyish "they were lured"
@hipstermi holy shit, do you not recognize an analogy? Do I have to hold your hand again? man dude, your tactic is like a child. Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him and disagreed with him, but it was too late, he had already seized power and stuck fear against those who would dare take action. So like you said, he lured them in, I used your words, I only took your word further, fail is on your part.
"Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him"
Typical Christian...making excuses.
"didn't like him and disagreed with him"
oooohhhh...they "disagreed". ANd bullshit- His brand of anti semanticism was popular in Germany long before he came to power. You still didnt comment on his spiritual hero Martin Luther "On the Jews and Their Lies"
Plenty of Germans went along with it and CHEERED rounding up the Jews.
@hipstermi "Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him"
Typical Christian...making excuses. what's your excuse for your boy Stalin starving farmers and christians and jailing/murdering them in the millions? You are an atheist, so what's your excuse for him? Or maybe guilty by association doesn't work dipshit? You can't blame Christianity for what people do, just like you can't blame atheism for what atheists do, get it ASSHOLE?
@hipstermi many of them died trying to stand up to Hilter, and btw, Hitler is more like your boys, liberals left, that want a big controlling tyranny government, conservatives like Ron Paul, want less gov that doesn't control people. Stop making excuses for liberals.
@weseyedwalk "many of them died trying to stand up to Hilter" SOME. the majority were with Hitler. "Hitler is more like your boys, liberals left" Hitler - outlawed unions - "defined marriage" for citizens in Nuremberg laws - blames immigrants - hated gays - outlawed abortions - christian books in schools - christian decorations on medals, posters, buildings, etc - cited christianity as justification
@hipstermi So you are against us having laws against murder? christian/bible sourced, against laws that punish stealing? or laws against rape, or child molestation? or animal cruelty? (all from the bible, but your right, we're not a christian nation)
@hipstermi Maybe you would rather have muslims law that cuts off hands for steeling, or atheist law that throws you in jail for not crying when the tyrant dies, or starves christians and farmers and jails them for having bibles? I like those christians laws, they are fair. Even though I am not religious I will fight to protect them over all the other alternatives.
no stupid. I have stated MANY times that Islam is as idiotic as your magical religion. I don't believe in those bullshit magical stories anymore than yours stupid.
"atheist law that throws you in jail for not crying"
There is no "atheist law" so non poitn again.
How about CHRISTIAN LAW. Like "christ"ians are trying to pass in MI and TN stating kids can bully if motivated by religion? Christian Uganda with "kill gays" laws?
@hipstermi That's illegal in the U.S. so no christian subscribes to that law of the age of law, we are in the age of grace according to the bible, so it is not followed anymore, CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!
"I never said we were a "muslim nation" so you have no point."
"YOU: "we are a nation of all beliefs" doesn't that include Isalm??"
So by finally putting up a quote you have proven yourself wrong. You christian lied about I said.
We are NOT a Christian nation we are NOT a Muslim nation...we are a nation of ALL beliefs. I can't believe you are arguing this. Judges, legal experts, etc. all agree with me. Your qualifications? Oh yeah..."guy on internet"
@hipstermi Not a nation of all beliefs in our fundamentals, in tolerance, yes within limitation, we are a nation of all beliefs, in our fundamentals, NO, that's why we don't allow cannibalism (other polytheistic religions), we don't allow beheadings and honor killings, (Islam) we don't allow persecution of freely believing bible followers, (many atheist communist state ran nations) GET IT?
@hipstermi limited tolerance in the constitution because even though we have freedom of religion in the constitution it is limited to judao-christian ethics/rights/morals. This is why it is unconstitutional to practice slavery even though it is a religious right of a muslims to have a slave, or cut off hands for steeling (unconstitutional) or execute a mercy killing of your daughter- all muslim religious rights that our constitution limits because those acts are unconstitutional.
"d tolerance in the constitution because even though we have freedom of religion in the constitution it is limited to judao-christian ethics/rights/morals"
Find me "limited tolerance" or "judeo-Christian" in the Constitution.
You can't...so you lost.
"This is why it is unconstitutional to practice slavery"
Yeah...and funny how you "christ"ians condoned it.
It's unconstitutional because it denies rights of others...like your religion's "kill gays" command.
@hipstermi LOL I already demonstrated this to you, your using circular reasoning and it doesn't work. No the bible condemns slavery "any man who captures another man for sale or labor shall be stoned to death" again Christ was against slavery, so as christianity of Christ, not the fake 'christianity' of false prophets. Think about this, even tho muslims and 'christians' and atheists all had slaves, you know it is immoral even if the whole world tells you it is moral, why is this?
@hipstermi I don't like the GOP they are full of liberals now, and I already demonstrated that next to a liberal like Van Jones (self-declared communist) you are a conservative like me, because you are to the right of many neo-liberals today. You will deny this because you have been trained to hate a word out of ignorance. Sad. You can't even recognize who your friends/countrymen are. You think I am your enemy, it's really sad.
@hipstermi I guess I shattered your whole argument,,, again! muslim religion is unconstitutional in it's pure fundamental form therefore that religion is limited by our constitution, ,,, because,,, we are a christian nation, not a muslim nation. You can't be both.
@hipstermi You cannot be a black KKK member can you?, a white black panther? A Jewish christian muslim? An atheist that prays to God? We need to recognize who we are before we tear this country apart.
@hipstermi Then if all religions are permitted by our constitution, why can't Muslims exorcize their religious rights, from the texts of their Qur'an? Like honor killings, cutting hands off for steeling, treating christians and atheists like second class citizens or sometimes worse, forcing conversion or death. If you don't allow these things, you don't allow fundamental Islam to be practiced. Explain please.
"Then if all religions are permitted by our constitution, why can't Muslims exorcize their religious rights, from the texts of their Qur'an?... you don't allow fundamental Islam to be practiced. Explain please. "
You know the rules- no asking the same double asshole questions in one post.
Reword to one question and you will get your answer. (It's simple and most jr. high government students know it)
@hipstermi Why do athiests (like you) fail to understand that the fact that matter and energy exists at all is impossible without a creator?
The first law of thermodynamics states that matter and energy can NOT be created or destroyed. therefore according to your narrow minded, obviously flawed science it is impossible for anything to exist.
Well the last time I looked matter and energy do exist. An intellectually honest person MUST realize that science falls short of understanding.
So let me see if I understand your rant about science...
The fact we have matter and energy must "prove" your god...which I assume is the magical jesus. Not Allah, or Brahma, or Zeus. How do you know it's magical jesus?
@hipstermi "AND...who or what created god?" Your question shows that your thought processes are not complete, and shows that you have very limited vision and knowledge. The fact that you would even ask that question should clue you in to how little you know.
2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
@hipstermi "And yet you couldn't answer it (who or what created God)!" You presume that I can't answer it? Here's your answer, and tell me if you believe it or not, because I presume that you will NOT believe it (hence no answer previously to you):
God has no beginning and no end. He is the Creator, there is no creator or god besides Him. God was not created by anything or anyone. If that were the case, He wouldn't be GOD, would He? Making sense to you yet? Don't dodge the question :)
@hipstermi I give you a scripture and you tell me "Learn to think for yourself." So I'm going to give you another scripture. Isaiah 55:8,9: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts."
You depend on the flawed low level nature of YOUR thoughts. I prefer God's thoughts over my own because Truth is important to me, unlike you.
"give you a scripture and you tell me "Learn to think for yourself." So I'm going to give you another scripture."
Meanign after being told to think for yourself you still cant think for yourself...
"Isaiah 55:8,9: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD"
Yup...your church does encourage blind obedience. this is how your leaders brain wash you. just say "god says" and that squashes all discourse. Good little trained doggie.
@hipstermi "Prove to me you are channeling god's thoughts." My gosh, my dog is smarter than you. So the one who claims everyone is lying, is himself lying AGAIN. How can you be so blind, except by doing it intentionally? You *are* doing it intentionally and you know it, or else you really are dumb. One who lies about others being liars. Hope you're never on a jury, or witness to a crime. You have no credibility - and no integrity.
Channeling? Idiot? His Word is written for all to read
@hipstermi No, you do not understand my comment, and I doubt that you are capable of understanding it.
My comment CLEARLY stated that in order for matter and energy to exist, you must throw out the fundementals laws of science.
The 1st law of thermodynamics states that matter can not be created or destroyed, yet it exists. I was merely pointing out without a creator there would be no creation. I hope that I explained it simply enough for you to understand this time.
@hipstermi LMAo, don't be such a transparent fool.
1st of all I never called myself a Christian, that is an assumption on your part, this is typical of atheists btw.
2nd I never claimed that the creator was a Christian god, just that a creator must exist for creation to exist.
3rd your logic is nowhere, I am already stipulating a SUPERNATURAL creation of the universe. Atheists are the ones that must find a natural cause for the universe.
@hipstermi This is close to the stupidest replies to a comment that I have ever seen.
1. Why don't you just admit that the first law of thermodynamics eliminates any explanation that rules out a CREATOR.
2. Your assumption that I must tell you what religion I adhere to, if any, shows your inability to think critically about a question. You are merely looking for something about me personally to attack.
3. I have no bigotry toward gays,they were born that way. A gene that doesn't work
1. your saying "thing A means Thing B" doesnt work here. I can take your same explanation and say Zeus or Vishnu exists.
2. I see...afraid to give a direct answer. buck-buck-buck goes the chicken shit!
3. saying "born that way" doesnt mask your conservative bigotry. we all know blacks were "born that way" and you conservatives were hell bent on denying them marriage rights to whites....all for magical jesus
AND...outside of me shooting down your bullshit reasoning on thermodynamics, Hawkins understand that a lot more than you ever will...and he doesn't believe in magical Jesus.
Again- even if your weak argument had merit.... that doesn't prove magical jesus. why not Zeus, Brahma, Loa, or a thousand other "creators"?
I will correct your errors I will do them in order
1.Saying that someone understands a subject better than someone else is what is called a "straw-man argument" It has no basis in fact and does nothing to bolster your position. I'm sure that Hawkins understands that the first law of thermodynamics says that matter can not be created, yet is has been created.
2. AGAIN, I never told you I was Christian, call the creator by whatever name you like. Are you getting it yet?
So let's go back to the main point you so cowardly dodged...
Your really stupid reasoning about thermodynamics doesnt prove your invisible magical beings.You're doing "thing a= thing B" without any logical reason.
and you dont know shit about thermodynamics
"AGAIN, I never told you I was Christian,"
So why not just answer yes or no on that? Ashamed of your MAGICAL beliefs?
@hipstermi I'm not here to prove anything to you or any other fool that thinks in circles and can't provide 1 fact to bolster their position. Again I ask the question that I know you are unable of answering. Where did matter come from?
@hipstermi Just for your benefit I will post an explanation of the first law of thermodynamics, heres a hint, it's also called the law of conservation of energy.
Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. It cannot be created or destroyed.
"Just for your benefit I will post an explanation of the first law of thermodynamics, heres a hint, it's also called the law of conservation of energy."
You keep bringing this "thing A equals Thing B" reasoning...yet you seem unaware that Einstein didn't believe in your magical being either (and dont quote the flowery usual "christ"ian quoted BS, look at his letters)
@hipstermi "thing A equals thing B" reasoning ? sounds like your trying to dismiss logic and truth with more cheap insults and belittling the truth. Again, Eistein was NOT an atheist, do some research. Weather or not he believed in the bible is not significant, what IS significant was that he could clearly see the order from chaos and the intelligence behind the laws of physics, the universe, and the math. He knew we were created by a higher intelligence.
"Again, Eistein was NOT an atheist, do some research"
Me- I cited quotes from Einstein.
You- say "do some research"
If you have a point, you could have cited something like I did .But oh no...being conservative you are too lazy and stubborn to look up anything. Dumbass...you probably don't even know the amount of hate mail he got for his views on god.
@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the sam, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
", you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them"
No stupid.
Julie Cypher gave birth same as your mom. No one did it "for her" A gay man ejaculating in a woman's vagina can STILL result in a pregnancy.
You were proven conservative wrong and can't even articulate a direct or logical argument. Nice try being conservative vague and running like a bitch.
@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
"ot the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol"
You are. It took you like FOUR days to even come up with this...and all you could say was basically "nu-uh". You were too cowardly to directly address each of the points.
I responded to you the next day AND still proved you wrong. Since Julie Cypher had a baby exit her vagina...no one "did it for her".
Do you even know who she is or just arguing from your usual ignorant position?
@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
@hipstermi You listed a quote that proves maybe Einstein could a non religious subscriber to a intelligent designed universe. Fail, he was not an atheist. that's my only point here. Now stick to the script. stop using your 'heart' talking point rhetoric, it's pretty lame. Move on, give me a real challenge. You don't know when you have been defeated.
@hipstermi I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth.
@hipstermi I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2 meaning he believed in some kind of maker, but not that of religion, which I agree with.
@hipstermi I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
(Albert Einstein, responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein who had sent Einstein a cablegram bluntly demanding "Do you believe in God?" Quoted from Victor J. Stenger, Has Science Found God? 2001, chapter 3.) Point proven, Einstein was no atheist.
@hipstermi "What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of "humility." This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism." (Albert Einstein)
@intrepidorator i also tried to explain to hipstermi the law of entropy in physics says that we are going from order to chaos, not the other way around, which points to a beginning of order, not randomness. Which in effect points to an initially guided universe.
@intrepidorator Do you see how this guy tries to weasel his way around being cornered with logic? It's quite funny. And then he acts like he has got me pinned down in this discussion. LOL.
@weseyedwalk yes, Hipstermi is a fool who is incapable of answering straightforward questions. He is so arrogantly convinced that he is right, he fails to even come close to adressing the questions put forth to him.
@intrepidorator Yes sire, when you hit home he changes the goal post and declares you didn't, when he misses he declares he didn't, lol, I feel like I'm playing chess with a four year old.
@hipstermi It might also help you to understand the nonsense of your belief structure if you think about it in an intellectually honest way.
If you don't believe in a creator then you believe that in the beginning there was nothing, then without a cause the nothing exploded into everything. The debris from the explosion of nothing begins to coalesce into more and more complex structures.
@intrepidorator "It might also help you to understand the nonsense of your belief structure if you think about it in an intellectually honest way." Your asking a mule to be a lion, your kinda asking a lot here. Especially with the honest thing. This guy is not interested in honesty or the truth, or rights, (where they come from) or morals, only his agenda, which is to demoralize, destabilize, and hurt those who harbor the truth. sound familiar?
@intrepidorator Oh yeah, and he also think you am I, and I am you, and all the other comments are from me under shadow accounts as if I have nothing better to do than debate this guy all day. lol
@weseyedwalk I can see that hipster has accepted his intellectual limitations. He has not responded to my comment from 1 day ago. I pointed out to him that the big bang theory is no more likely than a creator, in fact with the creator theory you at least have a cause for matter and energy. Big bang theory without a creator is impossible if you believe in the 1st law of thermodynamics.
@intrepidorator yes big bang theory which is not really questioned anymore (even though at one point hipster said "not sure if I believe in the big bang") required something that science says doesn't exist: an infinite source of energy. Hmm. Sounds like science is revealing something unexplainable without God,,, again. How many times to we balance the equation with the supreme being and ignore it? It's becoming more obvious the more we learn about science.
@intrepidorator Another thing is the law of Entropy in physics which states all things are going from order to chaos, which slaps atheism in the face because the atheist must believe without God, order must have come out of chaos. Yet everything around us in nature and the universe testifies against this. Look atheism to me is as hard to swallow as God, might as well follow what science points to. Intelligently made universe. Follow logic.
"Another thing is the law of Entropy in physics which states all things are going from order to chaos, which slaps atheism in the face because the atheist must believe without God, order must have come out of chaos"
that's your OPINION on Entropy. So challenge- find me one reputable scientists that came to your conclusion. I mean...if everything you said in your fake conversations was true there must be tons of physicists to back you up.
Being asshole conservative, you seem to run from logic. For instance... you made every excuse for the Biblical story of god murdering kids in Egypt. You blamed Pharaoh...but God, being god...carried out the kills. he made the rule. But being the rule maker he could have changed it.
so a bunch of innocent kids who had nothing to do with Pharaoh died. there's no logic in that for a "loving" god. if he exists-he's a murderer
and you giving your murderous god a pass on Egypt...even if god only killed Pharaoh's kid, why would you want to worship someone who killed a kid for something his dad did? so...why worship a being who killed kids for something a ruler they probably never net did?
again- if you have an answer to me, post it, not your sock account where you pretend to have a conversation. no need for that level of chicken shit
@hipstermi Really, you need to address the issue of thermodynamics and the creation of matter, instead of stupidly stating that other people disagree with me. I realize that you are not nearly intelligent enough to actually address the question, but just saying that other people also disagree with me is what we in intellectual circles call a "straw-man argument".
@hipstermi really?. what was your explanation of the creation of matter. You never even tried to answer this question, you only replied that others didn't believe in a creator.
I'll help you out, this is an intellectually cowardly answer. It may work in your circles but not in circles where thought is necessary.
@hipstermi Again you fail to answer any questions. I'm not sure if you're ignorant of any facts to bolster your beliefs or just to cowardly to admit that you don't have the intelligence to comprehend what you pretend to believe.
Matter can not exist without a creator, it's as simple as that. I can explain the existence of matter using my beliefs.. The creator created it.. You are too stupid to realize that you can not explain it using your beliefs.
@hipstermi are you ever going to explain the existence of matter?
If you want to describe a belief in a "magical" origin to matter, just look at the big bang theory.
You believe that in the beginning there was NOTHING, this nothing magically exploded without a cause or reason and magically became everything in existence. You further believe that the debris from the magical explosion magically pieced itself back together into planets and stars.
No I dont. You with your invisible sky genie with hgis magical fucking powers...or his magical son who magically doesnt show up in history. But yeah, he can levitate! and change matter!
And look at your religion- so much violence, sexual controversy, money fleecing, war... all for your magical beliefs. why dont you ask for PROOF instead of being so fucking stupid?
@hipstermi You believe in magic fool, I believe in a creator because without a creator the universerse is impossible.
I am asking for proof from you, prove what you believe. You believe that nothing exploded and became everything. Explain how your belief is not a belief in magic.
Steven Crowder is to young and has too good of a sense of humor to be a Conservative fuckhole.
jabbles1029 2 weeks ago
You know whats funny, the Biden quote makes perfect perfect sense. "per se" in Latin means "in itself" so the quote reads "Look, the Taliban in itself is not our enemy.".
Your fighting a war of ideas not a war you can win with guns. terror isn't going to surender, you people understand that right?
duracell777 2 weeks ago 3
@duracell777 It never dies, everyone knows that. It's simply political crime, and neither politics nor crime is going to end in the next few millennia save the apocalypse. We're only fighting back to squelch and maybe contain it.
MrDarthBaker 2 weeks ago
@duracell777 - Can't win with guns? It's a good start, just ask the Germans and Japanese.
eagle275 2 weeks ago
Crowder is clearly gay. Closet much?
JRCrowley 4 weeks ago
@JRCrowley when there is no agreement, call your opposition names. Very adult of you.
elysium76 3 weeks ago 12
@JRCrowley
If that's actually true, what's wrong with that? Funny how liberals accuse Conservatives of hating gay people (and everybody else) yet are always the people who will take an entire group of people, (race or sexuality) and use it to insult someone. So if calling someone Homosexual is an insult, that would certainly mean that they are lower than your current position in your view, but go on, thinking isn't your thing,and thats perfectly fine,just leave the politics to adults
Vorgoth911 3 weeks ago
@JRCrowley
Lame attempt at an insult.
But, if he really was, then this begs the question: So, what?
Watcher3223 3 weeks ago
@JRCrowley what a gay comment, 'closet much' ? lol man, you should ask yourself that.
weseyedwalk 3 weeks ago
True that about the difference between the Tea party v. OWS
arivas713 1 month ago
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hipstermi 1 month ago
ron paul 2012.
WesternRevolutions 1 month ago
Nothing of this bastard "steven crowder" said was in my top TEN for 2011.
hynixx 1 month ago
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Corporations that pay no corporate income taxes.
GE
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Bank of America
Exxon Mobil
and many more
Because they exploit loopholes in the thousands of pages in the tax code. Corporations lobby congress for corporate welfare and tax loopholes. Competitive capitalism we should have 50+ national banks instead of 5 to big to fail that crash the entire economy again. Solution: Get the money out of politics so that the Congress is beholden to the people not the corporations that bribe Congress.
Davis30b 1 month ago
2:09 "Google Search" Not for long if our Big Brother Party members get their way. Everyone make room i your homes for Tele-Screens.
mibzlord 1 month ago
I'm a conservative and agree with the points in this video, but I can say without a doubt that Fox News is absolutely conservatively biased. Though I do have some liberal beliefs like gay marriage should be legal, and that I'm agnostic. Just thought I'd say so, that not all conservatives are blind and not open to new ideas.
Pyrofreak321 1 month ago
Just became aware of Crowder, watched some of his videos and reached the conclusion that his schtick is pro whiner (in spite of his saying several times in those videos that 'nobody likes a whiner'). I'm especially fond of the complaint he calls the Tina Fey doctrine starting at ~1:00 where he whines that celebs 'sometimes put political agenda ahead of the funny...'. Dude's lack of self awareness is stunning cause that's all Crowder and his ilk do, cramming political POV into the funny box!
notjenna 1 month ago
@notjenna Crowder is a pundit who tries to use humor. His agenda is clear. He's not pretending to be objective.
frogsoda 1 month ago
No mention of Herman "No Chance" Cain and his special lady friend who he liked to help out financially but didn't tell his wife about (but for some reason wasn't having sex with)?
markowens75 1 month ago
Insulting Alec Baldwin just cause he does not think like you!?
dangrievousreturns 1 month ago
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@dangrievousreturns
"Insulting Alec Baldwin just cause he does not think like you!?"
Yes, very "christ like" I guess.
hipstermi 1 month ago
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anti0918 1 month ago
nothing about fast and furious or solyndra...what is this i dont even...
BigSean1992 1 month ago
And STILL no one mentions NDAA...
CoffeeCupGoodness 1 month ago
if i were american id probably vote democrat to be honest, but i love these videos. its always good to have a witty and informed view from the other angles.
and pedobear...hitler was christian and germany was very christian. sheesh, never mind going "back to school boi" maybe you should just figure out how to google stuff.
sturdybiscuit 1 month ago
This year will show the end of the leftist movement.. More and more people are fed up with it all.. and the Republicans had best become more conservative, more traditional, and more inclined to take on the Federal Reserve for real or they will see the wrath of the American people as well.. The Republican establishment best beware, their days are numbered too..
SuperGuitarman69 1 month ago
@SuperGuitarman69
"This year will show the end of the leftist movement.. More and more people are fed up with it all.. "
The GOP hasn't really run any impressive candidates. Newt is a smart guy, but it would be hypocritical for the Christian right to vote for him given his horrible marriages/ divorces and utter lack of respect for women. Ron Paul isn't Jesus enough for most the party... and the rest are deeply stupid.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Many christians support Newt, it is against the bible to judge him for his mistakes, nobody is perfect.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"Many christians support Newt, it is against the bible to judge him for his mistakes, nobody is perfect"
Funny how Newt wanted Clinton to resign...right around the time he was fucking another woman and leaving wife #2.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Newt is a smart guy, but it would be hypocritical for the Christian right to vote for him...". Hypocritical??? Only by your standards. What are your standards anyway? Let me start the list for you: hatred, anger, judgmental, hypocritical, ignorant of Christianity, hater of God. You get to add the rest.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
"Hypocritical??? Only by your standards. "
Not mine...his.
1. he wanted Clinton to resign over an affair...at the same time Newt was having an affair.
2. Newt has been married THREE TIMES.
3. he claims Christian...divorce is a sin unless the other has an affair.
4. affairs and leaving your wife- also christian sin.
not my standards...your and his religion's!
Please address all these points directly.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Please address all these points directly." Sure, because one word applies to all your "points". Forgiveness, which is the standard of Christ Jesus. So yes, it is YOU who feels it would be hypocritical for a Christian to vote for Gingrich. NOT, as you claim, Christ Jesus' standard.
You claim to know what being a Christian is about, but you obviously know absolutely nothing. Who the heck taught you this stuff...it's all false.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
""Please address all these points directly." Sure, because one word applies to all your "points". Forgiveness, which is the standard of Christ Jesus. So yes, it is YOU who feels it would be hypocritical for a Christian to vote for Gingrich."
Yet "christ"ians said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Yet Christians [spelling corrected by 10com40cal] said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs." And you accuse others of lying!
Of course it had to do with politics - are you crazy thinking it was just because of Clinton's affairs and his filthy conduct in the White House? It had everything to do with Clinton's liberal politics (such as but not limited to partial birth abortion). You're not convincing anyone except possibly the most uneducated.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
"Yet Christians [spelling corrected by 10com40cal] said not to vote for clinton because of affairs. not politics- affairs." And you accuse others of lying!"
NO lie, dumbass. At the time, plenty of "christ"ians said Clinton should resign due to his AFFAIR. Dan really dumb Quayle did on TV. Gingritch said it. DeLay said it.
"do with Clinton's liberal politics"
Yet they ONLY cited the blow job...
hipstermi 1 month ago
@10com40cal Don't let hipstermi try to weasel out of this anymore
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
Wow, well spoken!
ChesneyDigital 1 month ago
Putting politics over comedy... Hmm, sounds familiar.
joshshutup89 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"No, they don't, why are liberals, that sell us out, and spit on the church and christians and Conservatives"
Emotional opinions yet again!
Funny how I can state my views and articulate the reasoning. You just get vague, emotional, and they asked 4 or more "questions" in each post, expecting people to write you a Thesis.
hipstermi 1 month ago
steven, will you be my friend?.. :)
ocsmalltown 1 month ago
FOX - GIVE STEVEN CROWDER GLENN BECK'S OLD TIME SLOT..."THE FIVE" SUXXXXXXXXXXXX!
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@hipstermi "("Think about it, you said Hitler used Christianity to lure in people, yes he did"
No, I said Hitler cited Christianity. You're not using quotes and lying again.
Why did you lie? That's a sin against magical Jesus.)" You just said Hitler did lure chistians, now you say he only cited Christianity? You cite christianity all the time, so what? doesn't mean your a christian does it? A lie is only a sin if you believe in God, since you don't, it's ok to 4 u 2 lie isn't it?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Think about it, you said Hitler used Christianity to lure in people, yes he did"
Yes...Christian Hitler lured in Christians. Insider knowledge. ok Hipstermi I will hold your hand this time, lets think about this real hard; why would Hitler have to LURE (keyword) christians like the pied piper? Think about a fishing lure on a fishing pole? what happens to the fish?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"i I will hold your hand this time, lets think about this real hard; why would Hitler have to LURE (keyword) christians like the pied piper?"
You need to stop being so Christian stupid about this.
Someone can be of the same belief and get people to agree with him.
And even with your excuses on Hitler...martin Luther predates him. The German CHRISTIAN people have to take responsibility despite your babyish "they were lured"
hipstermi 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Think about a fishing lure on a fishing pole? what happens to the fish?"
This is why you "christ"ians usually fail critical thinking.
Fish are creatures of instinct with tiny brains.
German citizens were by majority CHRISTIAN. So all those guys who followed Hitler- SS, guards, officers, oven operators...CHRISTIANS.
Your "fish" analogy not only failed, but looks really stupid.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi holy shit, do you not recognize an analogy? Do I have to hold your hand again? man dude, your tactic is like a child. Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him and disagreed with him, but it was too late, he had already seized power and stuck fear against those who would dare take action. So like you said, he lured them in, I used your words, I only took your word further, fail is on your part.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him"
Typical Christian...making excuses.
"didn't like him and disagreed with him"
oooohhhh...they "disagreed". ANd bullshit- His brand of anti semanticism was popular in Germany long before he came to power. You still didnt comment on his spiritual hero Martin Luther "On the Jews and Their Lies"
Plenty of Germans went along with it and CHEERED rounding up the Jews.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Silly. Christian Germans, once they found out who Hitler REAAALLY WAS, didn't like him"
Typical Christian...making excuses. what's your excuse for your boy Stalin starving farmers and christians and jailing/murdering them in the millions? You are an atheist, so what's your excuse for him? Or maybe guilty by association doesn't work dipshit? You can't blame Christianity for what people do, just like you can't blame atheism for what atheists do, get it ASSHOLE?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
So what you are saying is...Christians in German were so stupid they got fooled and then didn't stand up.
Stupidity or cowardice? Well, that is a lot like your GOP.
stop making excuses- tons of "christ"ians blamed Jews long before Hitler and were happy to go along with him.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi many of them died trying to stand up to Hilter, and btw, Hitler is more like your boys, liberals left, that want a big controlling tyranny government, conservatives like Ron Paul, want less gov that doesn't control people. Stop making excuses for liberals.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Yeah but Crowder exposed lies, while this guy spreads lies, not exactly the same is it?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi So you are against us having laws against murder? christian/bible sourced, against laws that punish stealing? or laws against rape, or child molestation? or animal cruelty? (all from the bible, but your right, we're not a christian nation)
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"So you are against us having laws against murder?"
This question is so incredibly stupid of you, it defies logic.
"christian/bible sourced, against laws that punish stealing?"
Repeating your bullshit from before gets you the same answers- these are not unique to Christianity.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Maybe you would rather have muslims law that cuts off hands for steeling, or atheist law that throws you in jail for not crying when the tyrant dies, or starves christians and farmers and jails them for having bibles? I like those christians laws, they are fair. Even though I am not religious I will fight to protect them over all the other alternatives.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Maybe you would rather have muslims law"
no stupid. I have stated MANY times that Islam is as idiotic as your magical religion. I don't believe in those bullshit magical stories anymore than yours stupid.
"atheist law that throws you in jail for not crying"
There is no "atheist law" so non poitn again.
How about CHRISTIAN LAW. Like "christ"ians are trying to pass in MI and TN stating kids can bully if motivated by religion? Christian Uganda with "kill gays" laws?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"or laws against rape"
In the Bible, rape is:
1. not mentioned in your precious 10 Commandments
2. Deut 22:28-29 says rapists can pay off the dad and MARRY the victim.
3. Deut 22:23-24 states how you can kill a rapist and her victim for not crying out in the city
That's one sick fuck religion you got.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi That's illegal in the U.S. so no christian subscribes to that law of the age of law, we are in the age of grace according to the bible, so it is not followed anymore, CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"That's illegal in the U.S. so no christian subscribes to that law of the age of law"
Yet you guys seem "cool" worshiping a god who advocated such violence.
"CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!"
you = Asshole asshole asshole
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT!!"
you = Asshole asshole asshole ,,, and you talk about me being 4th grade, dude really?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"I never said we were a "muslim nation" so you have no point."
"YOU: "we are a nation of all beliefs" doesn't that include Isalm??"
So by finally putting up a quote you have proven yourself wrong. You christian lied about I said.
We are NOT a Christian nation we are NOT a Muslim nation...we are a nation of ALL beliefs. I can't believe you are arguing this. Judges, legal experts, etc. all agree with me. Your qualifications? Oh yeah..."guy on internet"
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Not a nation of all beliefs in our fundamentals, in tolerance, yes within limitation, we are a nation of all beliefs, in our fundamentals, NO, that's why we don't allow cannibalism (other polytheistic religions), we don't allow beheadings and honor killings, (Islam) we don't allow persecution of freely believing bible followers, (many atheist communist state ran nations) GET IT?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Not a nation of all beliefs in our fundamentals, in tolerance, yes within limitation"
You made that up. Show me "limitation" in the Constitution as you describe it.
"that's why we don't allow cannibalism"
We dont allow that because it involves killing, denies rights of other citizens, and has a health risk involved. Nothing about "religion" in that.
You have no concept of our government or history. You should be ashamed for that level of ignorance.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi limited tolerance in the constitution because even though we have freedom of religion in the constitution it is limited to judao-christian ethics/rights/morals. This is why it is unconstitutional to practice slavery even though it is a religious right of a muslims to have a slave, or cut off hands for steeling (unconstitutional) or execute a mercy killing of your daughter- all muslim religious rights that our constitution limits because those acts are unconstitutional.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"d tolerance in the constitution because even though we have freedom of religion in the constitution it is limited to judao-christian ethics/rights/morals"
Find me "limited tolerance" or "judeo-Christian" in the Constitution.
You can't...so you lost.
"This is why it is unconstitutional to practice slavery"
Yeah...and funny how you "christ"ians condoned it.
It's unconstitutional because it denies rights of others...like your religion's "kill gays" command.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi LOL I already demonstrated this to you, your using circular reasoning and it doesn't work. No the bible condemns slavery "any man who captures another man for sale or labor shall be stoned to death" again Christ was against slavery, so as christianity of Christ, not the fake 'christianity' of false prophets. Think about this, even tho muslims and 'christians' and atheists all had slaves, you know it is immoral even if the whole world tells you it is moral, why is this?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi I don't like the GOP they are full of liberals now, and I already demonstrated that next to a liberal like Van Jones (self-declared communist) you are a conservative like me, because you are to the right of many neo-liberals today. You will deny this because you have been trained to hate a word out of ignorance. Sad. You can't even recognize who your friends/countrymen are. You think I am your enemy, it's really sad.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"you are a conservative like me,"
Don't christian lie about me.I am not a conservative.
"because you are to the right of many neo-liberals today."
The world isn't "black and white".
"Sad. You can't even recognize who your friends/countrymen are. You think I am your enemy, it's really sad"
You hate gays for no logical reason than magical Jesus..your bigotry is no friend of mine.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi This is why we are a christian nation.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi I guess I shattered your whole argument,,, again! muslim religion is unconstitutional in it's pure fundamental form therefore that religion is limited by our constitution, ,,, because,,, we are a christian nation, not a muslim nation. You can't be both.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"I guess I shattered your whole argument,,, again!"
No stupid...you didn't. You havent presented on rational point.
"muslim religion is unconstitutional"
Instead of being conservative vague/ stupid you could just explain your point.
"fundamental form therefore that religion is limited by our constitution"
all religions are permitted and the founders even wrote about Islam.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"we are a christian nation, not a muslim nation. You can't be both. "
I never said we were a "muslim nation" so you have no point.
We are a nation of ALL BELIEFS. Not just your bullshit religion.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Cannot be a nation of ALL BELIEFS as I demonstrated.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi You cannot be a black KKK member can you?, a white black panther? A Jewish christian muslim? An atheist that prays to God? We need to recognize who we are before we tear this country apart.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi Then if all religions are permitted by our constitution, why can't Muslims exorcize their religious rights, from the texts of their Qur'an? Like honor killings, cutting hands off for steeling, treating christians and atheists like second class citizens or sometimes worse, forcing conversion or death. If you don't allow these things, you don't allow fundamental Islam to be practiced. Explain please.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Then if all religions are permitted by our constitution, why can't Muslims exorcize their religious rights, from the texts of their Qur'an?... you don't allow fundamental Islam to be practiced. Explain please. "
You know the rules- no asking the same double asshole questions in one post.
Reword to one question and you will get your answer. (It's simple and most jr. high government students know it)
remember- no double asshole!
hipstermi 1 month ago
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@hipstermi Why do athiests (like you) fail to understand that the fact that matter and energy exists at all is impossible without a creator?
The first law of thermodynamics states that matter and energy can NOT be created or destroyed. therefore according to your narrow minded, obviously flawed science it is impossible for anything to exist.
Well the last time I looked matter and energy do exist. An intellectually honest person MUST realize that science falls short of understanding.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
"Why do athiests (like you) fail to understand that the fact that matter and energy exists at all is impossible without a creator?"
So even if you sell one on a creator...that angry magical Jesus seems a bit of a stretch given what the Bible says.
"therefore according to your narrow minded, obviously flawed science it is impossible for anything to exist."
I never said that...you Christian lied.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
So let me see if I understand your rant about science...
The fact we have matter and energy must "prove" your god...which I assume is the magical jesus. Not Allah, or Brahma, or Zeus. How do you know it's magical jesus?
AND...who or what created god?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "AND...who or what created god?" Your question shows that your thought processes are not complete, and shows that you have very limited vision and knowledge. The fact that you would even ask that question should clue you in to how little you know.
2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
Light vs darkness - sight vs blindness.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
""AND...who or what created god?" Your question shows that your thought processes are not complete"
And yet you couldn't answer it! You gave some canned bullshit, and then quoted a vague scripture in 2 Cor 4 that didnt answer the question.
A cowardly dodge/ non answer on your part. Learn to think for yourself.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "AND...who or what created god?" You assume God has a beginning, why would you assume that?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
""AND...who or what created god?" You assume God has a beginning, why would you assume that? "
your posts indicated not being able to fully explain things makes it invalid.
seems like a lot of "i dont know" on your magical god on your part.
another cowardly dodge from you
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "And yet you couldn't answer it (who or what created God)!" You presume that I can't answer it? Here's your answer, and tell me if you believe it or not, because I presume that you will NOT believe it (hence no answer previously to you):
God has no beginning and no end. He is the Creator, there is no creator or god besides Him. God was not created by anything or anyone. If that were the case, He wouldn't be GOD, would He? Making sense to you yet? Don't dodge the question :)
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
"God has no beginning and no end. He is the Creator, there is no creator or god besides Him."
Your proof?
Also, you "christ"ians say anything that exists needs a creator...this flies in the face of that.
And...why do you assume if there is a god it's YOUR god? not another faith? some version we don't know?
You have given a circular argument that didnt answer the question. One that is canned and repeated by your jesus cult
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi I give you a scripture and you tell me "Learn to think for yourself." So I'm going to give you another scripture. Isaiah 55:8,9: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts."
You depend on the flawed low level nature of YOUR thoughts. I prefer God's thoughts over my own because Truth is important to me, unlike you.
10com40cal 1 month ago
@10com40cal
"give you a scripture and you tell me "Learn to think for yourself." So I'm going to give you another scripture."
Meanign after being told to think for yourself you still cant think for yourself...
"Isaiah 55:8,9: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD"
Yup...your church does encourage blind obedience. this is how your leaders brain wash you. just say "god says" and that squashes all discourse. Good little trained doggie.
hipstermi 1 month ago
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@10com40cal
"You depend on the flawed low level nature of YOUR thoughts. I prefer God's thoughts over my own because Truth is important to me, unlike you."
Prove to me you are channeling god's thoughts. and what happens when your "god thought" is different from other "christ"ians?
Funny how all "christ"ians claim this, yet you guys can't agree on which version/ denomination of Christianity is "the true" one or "not lost".
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "Prove to me you are channeling god's thoughts." My gosh, my dog is smarter than you. So the one who claims everyone is lying, is himself lying AGAIN. How can you be so blind, except by doing it intentionally? You *are* doing it intentionally and you know it, or else you really are dumb. One who lies about others being liars. Hope you're never on a jury, or witness to a crime. You have no credibility - and no integrity.
Channeling? Idiot? His Word is written for all to read
10com40cal 1 month ago
@hipstermi No, you do not understand my comment, and I doubt that you are capable of understanding it.
My comment CLEARLY stated that in order for matter and energy to exist, you must throw out the fundementals laws of science.
The 1st law of thermodynamics states that matter can not be created or destroyed, yet it exists. I was merely pointing out without a creator there would be no creation. I hope that I explained it simply enough for you to understand this time.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
"No, you do not understand my comment, and I doubt that you are capable of understanding it."
For a "christ"ian and one pretending to be polite...why not be more honest when insulting people? not very jesus like.
"I was merely pointing out without a creator there would be no creation"
1. who created your god? you just stated something existing needs a creator
2. your logic doesn't prove christian god,yet you guys insist this proves christian god.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi LMAo, don't be such a transparent fool.
1st of all I never called myself a Christian, that is an assumption on your part, this is typical of atheists btw.
2nd I never claimed that the creator was a Christian god, just that a creator must exist for creation to exist.
3rd your logic is nowhere, I am already stipulating a SUPERNATURAL creation of the universe. Atheists are the ones that must find a natural cause for the universe.
4th You can not explain the creation, I can.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
"4th You can not explain the creation, I can."
No, you gave your OPINION on creations. That's not an explanation.
You have been taught this before by me. Pay attention.
"1st of all I never called myself a Christian, that is an assumption on your part, this is typical of atheists btw."
Then stop playing games and say what you are.
You are a conservative and highly bigoted to gays.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi This is close to the stupidest replies to a comment that I have ever seen.
1. Why don't you just admit that the first law of thermodynamics eliminates any explanation that rules out a CREATOR.
2. Your assumption that I must tell you what religion I adhere to, if any, shows your inability to think critically about a question. You are merely looking for something about me personally to attack.
3. I have no bigotry toward gays,they were born that way. A gene that doesn't work
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
1. your saying "thing A means Thing B" doesnt work here. I can take your same explanation and say Zeus or Vishnu exists.
2. I see...afraid to give a direct answer. buck-buck-buck goes the chicken shit!
3. saying "born that way" doesnt mask your conservative bigotry. we all know blacks were "born that way" and you conservatives were hell bent on denying them marriage rights to whites....all for magical jesus
hipstermi 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
Hey dipshit, I gave you FOUR ways gays can reproduce...you havent admitted to being conservative wrong yet.
does that shit sandwich of defeat taste good in your mouth? You stupid ass.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
AND...outside of me shooting down your bullshit reasoning on thermodynamics, Hawkins understand that a lot more than you ever will...and he doesn't believe in magical Jesus.
Again- even if your weak argument had merit.... that doesn't prove magical jesus. why not Zeus, Brahma, Loa, or a thousand other "creators"?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi
I will correct your errors I will do them in order
1.Saying that someone understands a subject better than someone else is what is called a "straw-man argument" It has no basis in fact and does nothing to bolster your position. I'm sure that Hawkins understands that the first law of thermodynamics says that matter can not be created, yet is has been created.
2. AGAIN, I never told you I was Christian, call the creator by whatever name you like. Are you getting it yet?
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
So let's go back to the main point you so cowardly dodged...
Your really stupid reasoning about thermodynamics doesnt prove your invisible magical beings.You're doing "thing a= thing B" without any logical reason.
and you dont know shit about thermodynamics
"AGAIN, I never told you I was Christian,"
So why not just answer yes or no on that? Ashamed of your MAGICAL beliefs?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi I'm not here to prove anything to you or any other fool that thinks in circles and can't provide 1 fact to bolster their position. Again I ask the question that I know you are unable of answering. Where did matter come from?
intrepidorator 1 month ago
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@intrepidorator
"Again I ask the question that I know you are unable of answering. Where did matter come from?"
I don't know...and despite pretending to know, neither do you.
But you seem to default to "supernatural!"
all your canned arguments are from "christ"ian web pages.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi Just for your benefit I will post an explanation of the first law of thermodynamics, heres a hint, it's also called the law of conservation of energy.
Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another. It cannot be created or destroyed.
I hope this helps you understand.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
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@intrepidorator
"Just for your benefit I will post an explanation of the first law of thermodynamics, heres a hint, it's also called the law of conservation of energy."
You keep bringing this "thing A equals Thing B" reasoning...yet you seem unaware that Einstein didn't believe in your magical being either (and dont quote the flowery usual "christ"ian quoted BS, look at his letters)
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi "thing A equals thing B" reasoning ? sounds like your trying to dismiss logic and truth with more cheap insults and belittling the truth. Again, Eistein was NOT an atheist, do some research. Weather or not he believed in the bible is not significant, what IS significant was that he could clearly see the order from chaos and the intelligence behind the laws of physics, the universe, and the math. He knew we were created by a higher intelligence.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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"Again, Eistein was NOT an atheist, do some research"
Me- I cited quotes from Einstein.
You- say "do some research"
If you have a point, you could have cited something like I did .But oh no...being conservative you are too lazy and stubborn to look up anything. Dumbass...you probably don't even know the amount of hate mail he got for his views on god.
hipstermi 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
You claimed gays cant reproduce...I gave you FOUR ways. You never replied...running like the little bitch you are.
bigots like you do that a lot- turn tale when reason and science prove your stupid ass wrong. Or is this were you give another post on your "heart"
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the sam, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
"gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways"
Yes I did, dumbass. You not listing them or addressing each points points to your usual cowardice.
me- make a point, list examples, explain myself
you- list opinion and say "nu-uh"
Give us another conservative "duuUUUhhhHHHHH"
hipstermi 1 month ago
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@weseyedwalk
", you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them"
No stupid.
Julie Cypher gave birth same as your mom. No one did it "for her" A gay man ejaculating in a woman's vagina can STILL result in a pregnancy.
You were proven conservative wrong and can't even articulate a direct or logical argument. Nice try being conservative vague and running like a bitch.
hipstermi 1 month ago
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@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@hipstermi gays cannot reproduce, you didn't give me four ways, you gave me examples of how someone else can for them. Not the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"ot the same, who is the running little bitch now?BITCH! lol"
You are. It took you like FOUR days to even come up with this...and all you could say was basically "nu-uh". You were too cowardly to directly address each of the points.
I responded to you the next day AND still proved you wrong. Since Julie Cypher had a baby exit her vagina...no one "did it for her".
Do you even know who she is or just arguing from your usual ignorant position?
Conservative duuUUHHH
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
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@hipstermi It took my four days because I have a job, I pay bills, man, dude, I know you like attention, (could put any troll to shame) but really? lol. ok hipstermi, I let you pass when it took you 5 days, no more free passes for you. LIBERAL DUH..
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi do you know how homosexuals come about?
intrepidorator 1 month ago
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@intrepidorator
"do you know how homosexuals come about?"
I know what some do since they have vocalized it.same question to you. do you know what homosexuals care about.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@weseyedwalk
"Again, Eistein was NOT an atheist, do some research. Weather or not he believed in the bible is not significant"
I DID research. List ed a quote. You listed your asshole "opinion"...or was it from your "heart" again?
Me- make a point, cite infor, back it up.
you- make vague statements, talk about what your "heart" tells you...emotional
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi You listed a quote that proves maybe Einstein could a non religious subscriber to a intelligent designed universe. Fail, he was not an atheist. that's my only point here. Now stick to the script. stop using your 'heart' talking point rhetoric, it's pretty lame. Move on, give me a real challenge. You don't know when you have been defeated.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Fail, he was not an atheist. that's my only point here'
As usual you have no point. You still can't cite a source or prove your opinion. What's a matter...magical jesus didn't give you the answer?
hipstermi 1 month ago
@hipstermi I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@hipstermi I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2 meaning he believed in some kind of maker, but not that of religion, which I agree with.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
Oh...since you and your sock account claimed I never answered questions (when I did)
Why havent you listed the "studies" you claim gays can't fight in the military?
Why havent you explained why god ordered people killed for adultery, being gay, disrespecting parents, being a medium and witchcraft?
You or your sock account can answer.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@hipstermi I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings.
(Albert Einstein, responding to Rabbi Herbert Goldstein who had sent Einstein a cablegram bluntly demanding "Do you believe in God?" Quoted from Victor J. Stenger, Has Science Found God? 2001, chapter 3.) Point proven, Einstein was no atheist.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"I believe in Spinoza's God"
In my posts, I listed this. This does not mean magical Jesus or even angry old testament child murderer. I posted by the 50s his views changed.
you just posted HALF of what I said.
conservative "duuUUUhhHHH!"
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@hipstermi "What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of "humility." This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism." (Albert Einstein)
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@intrepidorator i also tried to explain to hipstermi the law of entropy in physics says that we are going from order to chaos, not the other way around, which points to a beginning of order, not randomness. Which in effect points to an initially guided universe.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk exactly right...
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator Do you see how this guy tries to weasel his way around being cornered with logic? It's quite funny. And then he acts like he has got me pinned down in this discussion. LOL.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk yes, Hipstermi is a fool who is incapable of answering straightforward questions. He is so arrogantly convinced that he is right, he fails to even come close to adressing the questions put forth to him.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator Yes sire, when you hit home he changes the goal post and declares you didn't, when he misses he declares he didn't, lol, I feel like I'm playing chess with a four year old.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@intrepidorator
"yes, Hipstermi is a fool who is incapable of answering straightforward questions"
except I answered all the questions addressed to me. no need to conservative lie like this
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@hipstermi It might also help you to understand the nonsense of your belief structure if you think about it in an intellectually honest way.
If you don't believe in a creator then you believe that in the beginning there was nothing, then without a cause the nothing exploded into everything. The debris from the explosion of nothing begins to coalesce into more and more complex structures.
This is what atheists like you foolishly believe.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator "It might also help you to understand the nonsense of your belief structure if you think about it in an intellectually honest way." Your asking a mule to be a lion, your kinda asking a lot here. Especially with the honest thing. This guy is not interested in honesty or the truth, or rights, (where they come from) or morals, only his agenda, which is to demoralize, destabilize, and hurt those who harbor the truth. sound familiar?
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@intrepidorator Oh yeah, and he also think you am I, and I am you, and all the other comments are from me under shadow accounts as if I have nothing better to do than debate this guy all day. lol
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk I see.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk I can see that hipster has accepted his intellectual limitations. He has not responded to my comment from 1 day ago. I pointed out to him that the big bang theory is no more likely than a creator, in fact with the creator theory you at least have a cause for matter and energy. Big bang theory without a creator is impossible if you believe in the 1st law of thermodynamics.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
@intrepidorator yes big bang theory which is not really questioned anymore (even though at one point hipster said "not sure if I believe in the big bang") required something that science says doesn't exist: an infinite source of energy. Hmm. Sounds like science is revealing something unexplainable without God,,, again. How many times to we balance the equation with the supreme being and ignore it? It's becoming more obvious the more we learn about science.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@intrepidorator Another thing is the law of Entropy in physics which states all things are going from order to chaos, which slaps atheism in the face because the atheist must believe without God, order must have come out of chaos. Yet everything around us in nature and the universe testifies against this. Look atheism to me is as hard to swallow as God, might as well follow what science points to. Intelligently made universe. Follow logic.
weseyedwalk 1 month ago
@weseyedwalk
"Another thing is the law of Entropy in physics which states all things are going from order to chaos, which slaps atheism in the face because the atheist must believe without God, order must have come out of chaos"
that's your OPINION on Entropy. So challenge- find me one reputable scientists that came to your conclusion. I mean...if everything you said in your fake conversations was true there must be tons of physicists to back you up.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@weseyedwalk
Oh...you also never provided the "studies" you claim you read stating gays can't fight in the military and are weaker.
Given the sheer bigotry of that, you really should back up what you have to say.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@weseyedwalk
"Intelligently made universe. Follow logic. "
Being asshole conservative, you seem to run from logic. For instance... you made every excuse for the Biblical story of god murdering kids in Egypt. You blamed Pharaoh...but God, being god...carried out the kills. he made the rule. But being the rule maker he could have changed it.
so a bunch of innocent kids who had nothing to do with Pharaoh died. there's no logic in that for a "loving" god. if he exists-he's a murderer
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@weseyedwalk
and you giving your murderous god a pass on Egypt...even if god only killed Pharaoh's kid, why would you want to worship someone who killed a kid for something his dad did? so...why worship a being who killed kids for something a ruler they probably never net did?
again- if you have an answer to me, post it, not your sock account where you pretend to have a conversation. no need for that level of chicken shit
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@intrepidorator
"I can see that hipster has accepted his intellectual limitations. He has not responded to my comment from 1 day ago"
so when people are busy in life you just whine and bitch like a baby?
and yes dipshit...i did answer the questions.
you and your sock account have yet to prove to me a snake can talk. but hey... your answers revolve around magic so that's your comfort level I guess.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@intrepidorator
". Big bang theory without a creator is impossible if you believe in the 1st law of thermodynamics."
except the top scientists who work in this field of expertise...don't agree with you. ergo- you have an opinion on the big bang theory.
sorry, magic christian reasons square pegged dont work.
stop pretending to talk to wesley/sock account. if you got something to say just say it.
hipstermi 3 weeks ago
@hipstermi Really, you need to address the issue of thermodynamics and the creation of matter, instead of stupidly stating that other people disagree with me. I realize that you are not nearly intelligent enough to actually address the question, but just saying that other people also disagree with me is what we in intellectual circles call a "straw-man argument".
intrepidorator 2 weeks ago
@intrepidorator
"Really, you need to address the issue of thermodynamics and the creation of matter, instead of stupidly stating that other people disagree with me."
I already did address it - you arent a scientist. The scientists (aka guys who work with the laws) disagree with you.
"realize that you are not nearly intelligent enough"
LOL!
You copied and pasted this "point" from a Christian web page. Not really any intelligent or even original thought on that one!
hipstermi 2 weeks ago 4
@hipstermi really?. what was your explanation of the creation of matter. You never even tried to answer this question, you only replied that others didn't believe in a creator.
I'll help you out, this is an intellectually cowardly answer. It may work in your circles but not in circles where thought is necessary.
intrepidorator 1 week ago
@intrepidorator
"really?. what was your explanation of the creation of matter"
I don't know...and neither do you. You can pretend you have magical jesus powers...but you really don't know any more than I do.
Your explanation requires...magic. You sound like a child who believes in fairy tales.
Again- try original thoughts instead of these often copied from Christian web pages, obviously where you got this from.
hipstermi 1 week ago 2
@hipstermi Again you fail to answer any questions. I'm not sure if you're ignorant of any facts to bolster your beliefs or just to cowardly to admit that you don't have the intelligence to comprehend what you pretend to believe.
Matter can not exist without a creator, it's as simple as that. I can explain the existence of matter using my beliefs.. The creator created it.. You are too stupid to realize that you can not explain it using your beliefs.
intrepidorator 1 week ago
@intrepidorator
"Matter can not exist without a creator, it's as simple as that. I can explain the existence of matter using my beliefs."
Not really. Your cop out answer requires...MAGIC as an explanation.
"creator created it"
Stating your OPINION as fact doesn't work.
you haven't proven your invisible silent magical friend exists much less created anything.
"You are too stupid "
you= sheep like simpleton who relies on superstition & magical stories to justify opinion over fact. dumbass
hipstermi 1 week ago 3
@hipstermi are you ever going to explain the existence of matter?
If you want to describe a belief in a "magical" origin to matter, just look at the big bang theory.
You believe that in the beginning there was NOTHING, this nothing magically exploded without a cause or reason and magically became everything in existence. You further believe that the debris from the magical explosion magically pieced itself back together into planets and stars.
Yes you are a fool, you believe in magic.
intrepidorator 1 week ago
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@intrepidorator
"are you ever going to explain the existence of matter?"
I already answered this, and I noted that YOU can't explain it either. Repeating christian web pages doesnt work.
"You believe that in the beginning there was NOTHING, this nothing magically exploded without"
typical "christ"ian... being boring, dronelike, and uncreative, you have to take what I said about YOU (believe in magic) and say it about me.
That's saying "I know you are but what am I"
hipstermi 4 days ago
@intrepidorator
"Yes you are a fool"
Yes you are a dipshit.
"you believe in magic."
No I dont. You with your invisible sky genie with hgis magical fucking powers...or his magical son who magically doesnt show up in history. But yeah, he can levitate! and change matter!
And look at your religion- so much violence, sexual controversy, money fleecing, war... all for your magical beliefs. why dont you ask for PROOF instead of being so fucking stupid?
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intrepidorator 3 days ago
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@hipstermi You believe in magic fool, I believe in a creator because without a creator the universerse is impossible.
I am asking for proof from you, prove what you believe. You believe that nothing exploded and became everything. Explain how your belief is not a belief in magic.
intrepidorator 3 days ago