Baling Hay with the 1950 Ford 8N & NH Hayliner 68 Baler

[1kenntx]

Great video....mytractorforum

[farmallGEEK]

that 8n is gettin it!

[carlk20]

How did you get the tractor in gear after starting the baler? Without a live pto?

[stembre]

@carlk20 - transmission in neutral, engage PTO, let out clutch to spin up baler; clutch in, shift into first, clutch out gently before baler slows down too much. Same thing in reverse when the baler chokes down.

[wheelbarrow16]

pretty thin crop!!

[bikie2]

when you have to empty trailer do you take baler and tractor with you

[stembre]

@bikie2 - No, I usually unhitch and use my pickup to pull an empty rack out, then take the full rack to the barn.

[brian93ist]

@stembre how many bales do you put up in a day? i guess you have just 2 people working?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - the field is about 10-11 acres, and we've gotten anywhere from ~300 to ~750 bales off it... we do it all in one day.

[brian93ist]

@stembre do you ever cut the field twice in a year?

[stembre]

@brian93ist We usually get 3-5 cuttings each year.

[brian93ist]

@stembre is the windrow always this thin and will the 8n run the baler in thick hay

[brian93ist]

this tractor sold for 1500 dollars new. How bad is the dust when stacking the bales on a wagon i don't seen much dust on this video ?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - dust really depends on conditions and prevailing wind. It's been really bad sometimes, and others not much of a problem. Now stacking bales in the back of the machine shed, that's another story!

[brian93ist]

i looked at a ford 2n with a 8n motor the other day they wanted 700 dollars for it it turns over but wont start is it worth that?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - $700 is in the ballpark for a "non-runner." If the engine isn't stuck (doesn't sound like it), getting it running shouldn't be that hard. Go read or search the archives at ytforums.ytmag.com - look for the 8N forum - for lots of good Ford N tractor info.

[brian93ist]

it is easyer on the bailer if the u joint is straight while turning the pto

[stembre]

@brian93ist - yep, broke the pto last year due to turning too tight too many times with it running.

[brian93ist]

@stembre i bet it cost a lot to fix our 30 acres of indian grass and big bluestem made 157 round bales around 5 bales and acre no fertilizer the hay was as tall as my neighbors tractor its a nh tl100 85hp on pto you could make wide turns with the bailer that should'nt be hard on the pto and pto shaft we are going to cut hay with a ford 3000 and 501 sickle soon ill have a video it has'nt been used in 20 years

[stembre]

@brian93ist - it wasn't too bad - a replacement knuckle (under $30 if I recall) and a very sweaty hour taking the old one off and putting the new one on... Sounds like you had a productive time with your round bales!

[brian93ist]

how hard is a gas tractor on fuel when your baileing does it burn a lot?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - I'm really not sure. The tank hold ten gallons, and I've never used more than a full tank... I think the 8N will typically go about eight hours on a tank, give or take working conditions.

[stembre]

Usually around 50-60lb. With the 8N throttle at about 3/4, the PTO should be right around 540...

[brian93ist]

what does one of these square bailes weigh? ours weighed around 80lbs is the bailer turning 540rpm

[brian93ist]

i am going to have to get a 8n

what does a square bailer like this cost?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - I bought mine at an auction for $500.

[HomesteadAcres]

what gear were you running that in it seemed a little fast for first ? worked realy well

[stembre]

@HomesteadAcres - I usually bale in 1st, but note my rear tires are +1 size, so ground speed is increased slightly. If my windrows are light, I can scoot along in 2nd okay.

[stembre]

@brian93 - the 8N has 'dead' PTO... No way to turn it on first!

[brian93ist]

you should turn the power take off on first

[TNJfarm]

We got one of these on the farm i work at we use it with a blade and drag horse manure out there good little tractors.

[flippermac]

you rule!-I have a 1947 8n with a backhoe that is actually made for the tractor!-Very heavy duty unit-I am not a farmer but when I went up north for the first time in my life-A lot of old timers who are still farming wanted my 8n!-i am from michigan.

[jayss10]

You would be surprised if you starting looking around more. There are alot of 50-60 year old tractors still earning their keep on alot of farms in this country. The new machines aren't as simple as these older machines and for the most part don't last as long.

[stembre]

2stroke - actually, I doubt I'm getting 27hp! I am on flat ground and rake a light windrow. Folks keep saying you can't bale with an 8N, but it really doesn't work the tractor that hard as long as you do some planning ahead.

[2strokedetroit]

yeah thats true i just read that these tractors have like 87ft/lbs of torque. I think thats impressive for an engine of that size

[brian93ist]

@stembre what do you mean 2 stroke?

[stembre]

@brian93ist - I was replying to "@2strokeddetroit" - sorry for the confusion...

[brian93ist]

@stembre you could be getting 27hp ive seen a 8n with 30hp

[stembre]

@brian93ist - the 8N was rated 27 HP brand new (less at the PTO). Since mine is 60 years old, it's probably a little shy of that...

[2strokedetroit]

how can a tractor with 27 hp do this?

[brian93ist]

@2strokedetroit i have seen a 20hp and 18hp tractor bale hay

[HomesteadAcres]

@brian93ist yep i used my tea 20 ferguson on a number 9 MF bailer worked great

[mercsmith]

i love 8ns

[bluelightguy1]

nice video, those old tractors could get the job done and well !

[stembre]

chadrr2,

You're correct, the 8N does not have live PTO. I spin up the baler with the tractor in neutral, then bounce the clutch into 1st and go. If the baler starts to bog down, you have to tap-dance on the clutch to bounce into neutral so the baler can clear its throat, then bounce back into gear. Raking the windrows a bit lighter helps prevent that.

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[chadrr2]

stembre,nice video i thought those 8n's were independent pto driven unless u let out clutch.how did you get to turn on baler with it sitting still?or did you have it in neutral when first starting baler?

[indy498]

we had the same tractor and have the same baler you can cover ground with those balers

[twal1011]

What a beautiful tractor. Had one as a kid growing up in Kentucky. Can't wait to have another one some day.

[stembre]

Many thanks! You can pick up a restorable non-runner for under $1000 in some places, but plan to spend another $3,000 or more to get it looking like mine. I didn't do it as an investment, other than to have an excellent multi-purpose tool that looks great, too.

[maskedmillionaire]

sweet video

[stembre]

It's 540rpm, and my 8N has the 'modern' 1-3/8" shaft.

[BUCKSHOTcat]

the pto shaft smaller than 540 on that mine is

[stembre]

Tyler,

I only have experience with the New Holland Hayliner 68, which is an older, smaller baler. I think the John Deere 24T might be similar sized, but don't know for sure. If you can find an older baler with an engine (instead of PTO driven), you'll put a lot less stress on your 8N, since all you'll have to do is pull everything. Keep in mind the 8N is fairly light and has marginal brakes. The baler will weigh almost as much as the tractor, leaving you with little safety margin on hills.

[tylerc1992charlo]

ok cool

[tylerc1992charlo]

what is a good bailer for a ford 8n

[stembre]

I can only get away with pulling the wagon because it's a small one (we only load 80 or 100 bales at a time), and my ground is almost perfectly flat. It's easier on the tractor to drop-bale, but twice as much work for me!

[stembre]

Usually first, but I can do second if the windrows are light.

[iceguy2003]

What gear do you run it in?

[johndeereman567]

he looks like he is in 2nd or 3rd

[stembre]

I usually bale in 1st (the 8N is geared pretty fast compared to modern tractors), unless the windrows are light, in which case I can get away with baling in 2nd.

[stembre]

Tyler, the 8N is really kind of small to be used in baling hay. I'm using a fairly small baler with it, and it's about all my tractor can do to run it. A 35-50hp tractor would be better suited for hay baling, but as my land is flat and I rake my windrows fairly light (and use a smaller hay rack), I manage pretty well.

[FarmerBob01057]

In addition to that you are also pulling a WAGON with the poor thing. That 8n of yours in amazing I must say.

[tylerc1992charlo]

can you just hook any bailer to an 8n or dose it half to be a certain kind

[chetlenox]

Great video!

[Jrcaseman]

Hey them NH are great balers. I have a little NH 66 that Iam restoreing now. great video

[Sean19419N]

Man that N purs like a kitten!!