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  • Pyro is ranked lower than Sniper and Spy in TF2 tier list.

    *this video*

  • And remember, tiers are for queers, especially when it comes to beyblade.

  • You know people, how can you even say that tiers exist when they constantly change? Someone can be a high tier one minute and low tier the next. Plus, think this: When someone hears of a character being high-tier, they start using them and no one else. Due to this, So many people are playing as only people like Snake and Meta Knight, with very few other characters in between. As such the lists FORCE themselves into existence due to no one playing as a "low-tier". Plus, it's just not fun. Lucas!!

  • @SirSomeguy FUCK LUCAS!!

  • @SirSomeguy he he ness is higher in the tier list then lucas

  • @XkookiesXx Didn't I say a whole 500 character long comment that I don't care at all?

  • @SirSomeguy Then explain Meta Knight?

  • @XkookiesXx Big deal, I've crushed plenty Meta Knight players, many of which with "low-tier" characters, like Pokemon Trainer. It's not just the character, it's the person behind it that utilizes the capabilities of the character they're playing as. A lot of times, I even have trouble playing as "higher tiered" characters. Like Snake, where his explosive moves always backfire on me.

  • @SirSomeguy thats nothing I've played as Ganondork and won plenty of times againts guys like Diddy Kong(2nd best). And backfire on snake? ya might be reliain to much on his weapons.

  • silly Bowser tears r 4 queers bowser 4 ever!

  • Press 1 for "Tiers R 4 Queers"

  • Not all characters in Brawl are balanced; tiers exist. Get over it. The tier list may not always be correct, especially because the meta game always evolves, but a hierarchy of some sort exists, as in all games with variables.

    Also, just so you all know, tiers does not mean that playing a high tier character will win you the match automatically against a low tier character. That is why anecdotes of you winning matches with low tier characters have no logical basis.

  • Uh, I have one response to this. Metaknight. That is all.

  • i'm good with mario

  • The Smash Back Room doesn't even deserve to play Super Smash!

    (I never lose as Ganondorf, Link, or any other low-tier character. TR4Q always.)

  • @Chamchir9482 That doesn't mean tiers don't exist. It just means you're that good. ;)

    No really, Link and Ganondorf really are low-tiers, but you can overcome their weaknesses with skill. It's just that in a hypothetical setting, some person who's just as skilled as you using a better character would win.

  • @Danaroth

    I've played people better than me. Those people have used high-tiers and Meta Knight. I've used low-tiers and Ganondorf. I've still won.

  • @Chamchir9482 Then they were not better than you, or they were not used to the matchup, which takes me back to the first point, that they are not as good as you claim.

  • @Danaroth

    So you are saying that Tiers only apply to someone of equal skill?

    Not the case at all.

    Tiers don't exist.

    I know as a matter of fact the people I mentioned earlier are better than me, yet I was still able to defeat their high-tier characters with my low-tier characters.

  • @Chamchir9482 Saying that tiers don't exist is an incredibly flawed statement. To be able to think that you must accept that developers are perfect in every regard and that every character is 100% balanced. You and I both know that is not true.

    If you could repeatedly beat these people with low-tier characters while they were using high-tier characters, that is because you are better than them. You are more skilled than them.

  • @Danaroth

    I know every character isn't balanced.

    But that doesn't change the fact that in the end, there is no 1 best charcter.

    And not only could I beat these people, I could beat tournament winners.

    The only tournament I've won was an 8-person tournament. I beat people that won much bigger tournaments. And the fight still was Ganondorf vs. Meta Knight.

    And guess who won.

  • @Chamchir9482 Guess who also regularly beats Meta Knights with Ganondorf and Link. Guess who still admits that tiers exist. And the fact that you think tiers determine that there is a single best character shows that you know nothing about them. How can you make claims about a subject you hardly know anything about?

    The character at the top of a tier list isn't necessarily the best in all matchups, but is the character with the most favorable matchups, in most cases.

  • @Danaroth

    Wow. You are really the one who doesn't understand. Tiers are JUST that. Argue all you want, but tiers don't exist, and that's the end of it.

  • @Chamchir9482 If you know every character isn't balanced, what are you arguing for? That Meta Knight isn't the best character or that tiers don't exist? Because if you acknowledge that characters are not balanced, you must acknowledge that tiers exist.

    By the way, Danaroth is right: You are misinterpreting the definition of tiers and are completely disregarding the existence of match ups. Please spend some time at Smash Wiki reading on tiers before replying.

  • @drsoda812

    I have read up on Tiers, and I still know as a fact they are made by no-lifes who hate certain characters. Just because not every character is exactly balanced doesn't mean that tiers exist. And what's more, if tiers exist and are true, explain why the lists change so much, and why characters can completely change their level.

    Thought so.

  • @Chamchir9482 No. Tiers are determined empirically by statistics, not by opinion. Statistically speaking, the majority of top tournament winners use Fox, Falco, Jigglypuff, Sheik, and Marth.

    How would a hierarchy not exist if the characters aren't balanced? If the characters aren't balanced, some are better than others: lo and behold, tiers. There is no way around it. A character has to be on the bottom and another has to be on the top. This game has too many variables for absolute balance.

  • @Chamchir9482 Your 2nd to last sentence clearly shows you did not THOROUGHLY read on tiers. Again, tiers are not absolute. Most people think characters must remain generally static because their movesets don't change, so how they could move up or down? On a professional level, characters are dynamic due to metagame. Metagame is the reason why tier lists change so much. As the metagame progresses, so the characers fluctuate. It's all been logically supported, whether you want to see it or not.

  • @drsoda812 Tiers don't exist and if someone uses them he is a queer, seriously smash bros was made for HAVING FUN not for tiers and the best player, you are suppussed to play with your favorite char, items are there TO BE USED AND SO THE OTHER STAGES, smash back room only likes to piss off THE REAL PLAYERS who play with their favorite char

  • @BrillantLoid1712 Nobody ever said you can't ever play with your favorite character in tournaments? And items are turned off in tourneys because they're random and disrupt play. Look, you can whine about tiers all you want, but if you aren't playing in tournaments, then you're a casual player talking about shit he doesn't know. You say someone who uses tiers is a queer; first, that's offensive to gays. Second, maybe at your level, but in high tourneys, paying attention to tiers gets you money.

  • @drsoda812 Tell that to tourneyfags in tourneys "duuuh U'r using Nizz he itz a low tier" everytime I hear that I just want to punch them in the face

  • @drsoda812 And banning a character its the dumbest Idea I've ever heard, hate those dumbasses, you are not suppused to get balance you are suppused to play with your favorite character, I mean, just because many tourneyfags like to use metaknight because he is a "high tier" then he deserves to get banned?!!! that's just bullshit, Tiers are for queers

  • @BrillantLoid1712 I never said anything about banning a character? See, now you just look like a hothead spouting out all of your annoyances, disregarding what I say. While I also believe MK shouldn't be banned, you have to realize others' reasons behind it; he is the best character in the game by far, earning his own tier. He has no negative match-ups at all, and he counters A LOT of characters. Using him already gives you a noticeable advantage (though you won't necessarily win). That's why.

  • @drsoda812 I know that you didn't say anything but someone has to, I don't like metaknight but there are some people who likes him, and we don't care if he is the best of the worst, no character or stage should be banned its stupid, he was made into the game to be played, tourney or not, its not a fair decision and its pretty stupid it only shows how the tiers can ruin a good game.

  • @drsoda812 I mean or the worst*

  • Silly Meta Knight, tiers are-a for queers!

  • Metaknight, (Insert video here)

  • I agree with Mario, Teirs are for Queers. It's a game, who gives a damn!?

  • @HatsODoom

    Metaknight?

  • @MrShikaki yep, meta knight is broken (he is overpowered cus he has 4 recoveries and is faster than any character in attack speed)

  • Bowser should agree

  • aww...the video ended before Bowser could punch Mario....

  • Ew Low tier comments as the highest ranked.

  • Captain Falcon bottom tier? Lol, no guys. He isn't God, but he is a very good character. These tier lists are so off >.>

  • 11 people are queers

  • I use Mario like crap now, and he's starting to become on of my best characters.

  • I never cired this much in my life...this video is just beautiful.

  • *Punch* Oh, Mama mia.

  • oww mameer

  • Tiers only exist to be ignored and challenged. ;)

    I decided to completely fuck over the tier list by recording myself beating a level 9 Meta Knight with Ganondorf, and I then posted it on Smashboards.

    People raged.

    I laughed.

    End of story. 

  • @Sparkz1607

    Computers are extremely easy to beat, regardless of what level they are. Level 9s are a joke. Whoever "raged" at your fallacious post on Smashboards was being an idiot. You suck at Smash.

  • @Sparkz1607 Except the AI doesen't know every single trick. Look, it's a video game, there are objective stats.

  • True shit.

  • silly Smash Back Room Tiers are for queers

  • Tiers r 4 queers!

  • 8 people are queer

  • 8 people like tiers and therefore are QUEERS!

  • BOWSER PUNCH~!

    Mama Mia!

  • fuck tiers in brawl it goes by wat franchise they're on

  • 6 people likes Tiers.

  • Silly Bowser. Tiers are for queers!

  • i just lost 3 seconds of my like :P

  • what's a god tier and a top tier?

  • Top Tier Character ≠ Playing Well

  • Silly Bowser, tiers r4 querr

  • .... Tears Are For Queer? ... UR DOING IT WRONG.

  • brawl sucks play bioshock

  • @feh2 Good Comparison.

    A FPS and a Fighting Game.

  • fuck you

  • you missed the s

  • Stop making fun of world of warcraft people you guys, they can't help it if their gay.

  • So Peach, can i get your MSN name? Facebook? Myspace? LiveJournal maybe?

    No Bowser YOU can HAAAAAAAVVVVEEEE

    THE BIG

    GAY

    DANCE!!!!!1

  • tears are que-

  • SILLY BOWSER, TIERS ARE FOR QUEEAH

  • silly nintendo tiers r 4 queers

  • Well yeah. And uglier. :(

  • Fox wasnt Low Tier in Melee... D:

  • @eIchristo they probably lowered him when he had the same final smash as two other people, but tiers are for queers

  • I agree

  • Mario doesnt DESERVE to bottom tier. I MEAN WTF!? Mario can be a high rank tie-, no not even TIERS R 4 QUEERS if you agree thumb me up!

  • @Ron457X

    Yeah,Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are bottom tier too...

    BOO!!!

    Captain Falcon PWNZ MetakKngith D:<

  • @WhiteMexWolf tiers r dumb too me i mean seriously zelda should be higher n jiggz,ike.lucas,ness,samus,pok­e trainer should all be higher

  • @accafelady

    ...Dude

    Zelda, and Pokemon Trainer SUCK in my opinion

    But,whatever

    I find them awfully spammy

  • @WhiteMexWolf zelda is not spammy if you know how to use her,its like using pika's down B all the time

  • @Ron457X ikr mario is probably the best gimper on the game, he should be atleast mid tier just for that!

  • @Ron457X Actually, the Zelda characters are bottom tier, not including Toon Link or Sheik... but why do I give a fuck... if TIERS R 4 QUEERS.

    Lol, this movie and a movie saying "___ Is Top Tier!" were next to each other in my recommended list. :D

  • i am transgender and asexual, and i laughed! oh my, i hope i am not struck by lightning!

  • obviously because you've never experienced it. but whatever i'm not wasting my time with this.

  • That's right,Mario

    TIERS ARE 4 FUCKING QUEERS !!

  • if there is one thing in the world i go against it being prejudice. exactly what tiers are. dont people notice that YOU are playing the game and how EVEYONE is different you cant just say metaknight will win most matches well if so then how come your list keeps changing. to me i think people who believe in tiers dont have there own opinion and are either followers or are followers its really sad.

  • TIERS ARE FOR QUEE--

  • And Remember kids,Tiers are 4 Queers or Bowser will beat the **** Out u!

  • No he won't - he's a low tier character : )

  • "Fuck the tourney faggots! They can fill up my ass"

  • this was from newgrounds

  • does that mean Bowser agrees he's a queer?

  • if you say TR4Q, im almost positive you really dont know what a tier is. If you really want to know and stop being ignorant, just ask.

  • TEIRZ R 4 QWEERZ!

  • This is my new motto.

  • i got banned from a website for saying that once

  • I was looking at the tier list the other day and how the hell did Link end up being 36/37? I get owned by link all the time on wifi (its the same with ike) and at the same time i've owned meta knight loads of times by playing as ness or luigi

    i think its personal skill that matters when brawling cause i kinda suck with higher tier characters

    TR4Q

  • So a random nerd decided they can't live without them tiers? I agree TR4Q!

  • @PokeFan448 yeah link is "low tier" but he can kill you off in 3 seconds if your not being a fast fucker like sonic (who can't knock you off worth a shit)

  • a thaught poped in my head:is it posible to fail at failing?

  • would that be a win?

  • idk

  • wait, if you cant fail, then youd fail at failing then youd have to fail, therefor making you fail and win at the same time, then creating a paradox, congratulations, youve blown up the universe!

  • No no no you've got it all wrong fail a win is a fail right? But if you fail a fail it's still a fail. It makes total sence!!(besides you don't got the whole picture)

  • no no no, your wrong, if you fail, you win at failing then making you fail at failing, so in a sense, you will always fail and win at the same time

  • Ah but don't you consider a fail, a fail? No mater what it's still a fail

  • Ah yes now i see

    but how did this even start XD

  • Its like multiplying negative numbers.... if you fail at failing you win.

  • silly rabbit! trix are for kids!

    silly bowser! tiers are for-a-queers!

    O.o

  • TR4Q ^.^

  • lol, it sounds like "Teirs out of a queers" lol

  • I KNOW NOTHING OF THE TIER LIST! ITS REALLY GAY AND IT TRIES TO DEFINE HOW EVERYONE PLAYS! its stupid. i play as ike, marth, and falco. i defeat countless enemies, and i dont try to define and organize how people play. thats ignorant and stupid. TIERS R4 QUEERS.

  • If you know nothing of the tier list, you can't logically say it's gay and that it tries to define how people play.

    By the way, no it doesn't.

  • I main Lucario who's 12th place (I think)

    I'm pretty darn good with him, as well.

  • do these assholes even know how a tier list works?

  • Yes, and they are still for queers.

  • TIERS R 4 DICKWIPING QUEERS

  • Queers R 4 Tiers

  • =O It works in reverse too!

  • LOLS

  • Silly Bowser, TR4Q!

  • I put the comment "TIERS ARE A FOR QUEERS" on a world of warcraft tier video...

    Of course, i got barraged by a horde of angry fanboys.

  • rofl...

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  • @Manty64 wow what did they say i want to know maybe ill make fake acount and do that and see waht happens

  • @Manty64 the truth is scary to some people

  • @Manty64 Hey, something similar happened to me too, lol.

  • @Manty64 Roflmao. Tiers do exist is WoW.

  • @Manty64

    And I can see why. Your grammar is ass. "Tiers are a for queers"? Really?

  • Clearly you suck in pokemon if your Magikarp Can't beat my Arceus(Water)

  • bowser punchs mario directly after this

    no seriously he actually does its in the flash

  • Tiers R 4 Queers

  • There's a hidden message in this. Bowser punches mario for saying tr4q, so Kirbopher is probably for tiers.

  • why'd you leave out the part where he punched him?That parts funny!

  • link shouldn't be in bottom tier and neither should kirby

  • uh yea link should he has poor recovery and he is really slow

  • Tiers are for Queers lol :P

  • Link Is my best character and you're right he shouldn't be bottom tier. But Still fuck the Tier list.

  • You can't go wrong if mario says it

  • But what if Weegee says it? D:

  • If Weegee says it, it is undeniably true to any and all extent of the universe.

  • he says TIERS R 4 QUEER not queerS

  • He speaks the truth! I main as Yoshi, and he's commonly a bottom-tier character. I also kick a lot of ass with Yoshi. I win 75% of my matches in any Smash Bros. game, and the ones I don't win, I get 2nd place (the 25% losses are caused by a fuck-up or a crappy controller). I commonly face-off with and kill common top-tier characters.

  • I don't think somebody who's no-doubt completely slaved into the tier system should be mouthing off about what skill is...

  • When I want to know what you think I'll cold clock that landing strip sized noggin of yours. Go back to your scrubby free-for-alls until I do just that.

  • aw, did the mean man hurt little babies feelings?Stop being such a bitch about it.

  • Your post is low tier. You fail.

  • It's not like Vijin wasn't right or anything.

  • wow dude, youre like, being owned by a stupid little list. thats quite amusing lollololollolollolo. who do you use. a "top tier" character? like that changes anything ha. TIERS R 4 QUEERS

  • scrub.

  • poser.

  • Your mom does ass to mouth. lol

  • You suck. Everyone knows that attacks on one's mum are a tell-tale sign of failure.

  • Mario is right!

  • YES! he speaks the truth! Represent all bottom tier characters, especially Cpt. Falcon cuz hes lowest!

  • and taht's why mario is my favorite smash bros. character!

  • You guys heard the plunber in red.

  • Mario's right

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