So in order to find a church closest to you, you have to give them your address, not just a zip code. That way they will have your address so they can send Missionaries to your house...oh those sneaky Mormons.
If you are thinking of attending a Mormon service, turn off your brain and do not think. You are hear to be brainwashed, not learn anything. After the prayer, be sure to praise the Supreme Sun God of the Egyptians, Amen-Ra. Yes, this is where "amen" comes from. When the sacrament gets passed around, understand that though Jesus gave wine, Mormons give water as Wine is Verbotten. Unless you are Joseph Smith sitting in the Carthage Jail. Then it's okay to drink alcohol.
Hey guys here's an idea, how about we stop dissing and tearing apart other religions? It doesn't matter who we are or what we believe, isn't a main point of being christian to build others up? Why are we tearing down, it shouldn't matter what religion you are you what you believe, as long as you're trying right?
@CameronBischoff Find out what the claims of Mormonism are. They are very different than the claims of 2000 yrs of Christianity. How would you like it if someone took your life story and did a 180 degree turn with every single fact.
@IExposeMormonism look, i understand what youre saying, but you are not listening to what i have to say. last time i checked, a christian is anyone and EVERYONE who believes in christ, and "Mormon" is just a nickname, they are called the church of JESUS CHRIST of ladder-day saints. and lets say even if their teaching differ from other christian faiths, that doesnt make them bad people. if you want to know what the LDS teach, why dont you try asking one instead of assuming shit?
@CameronBischoff My name is there because I own hundreds of original publications, many Mormon, covering all aspects of Mormonism. Jesus can't be a polygamist and a monogamist. He cant be both a monotheist and a polytheist. Someone is right here and Mormonism isn't right.
@IExposeMormonism and 2000 years ago? yeah lets see 2000 years ago there were apostles, prophets, missionaries, no pay for the administers of the church, sounds to me like the mormons are the closest thing to christs church 2000 years later dont you think? food for thought pal.
@CameronBischoff Chew on this:: Adam=God Doctrine. A polygamy revelation that "nullifies all non Mormon marriages and contracts, threatens wives with death for non compliance and defines innocent blood. A polytheistic god who was once a man and became a god thru "works", this god was born into a world of pre-existing matter and is just a god among gods. He also impregnated Mary. Jesus is also a polygamist. Chew on the absurd Abraham Papyrus and the plagiarized stolen BofM, with 4000+ changes.
@Ingle92protege we actually do teach out of the bible quite a bit :) the thing that people have a hard time understanding is that, the book of mormon was not meant to replace the bible, we believe strongly in the teachings of the bible. the book of mormon is merely "a second testiment of jesus christ" if you have any other questions please ask! i will be happy to answer them :)
You claim one thing with your words & believe just the opposite with your heart. Why do you deceive people by saying you teach out of the Bible? You know for a fact, you only teach "some" things out of the Bible. For instance, the Bible teaches there only one God, that God is spirit, not flesh & bone, that Jesus was virgin born. You are in opposition to the Bible on these points, yet you make believe you are students of the Bible. You are not no matter how loud you cry.
There's a few things you'll need to know... and more you know the less you'll go! "The Origin of Polygamy and Blood Atonement" by Joseph F Smith, 1915, explains much...He says JS was killed at Carthage because of polygamy. Brigham and others said JS was killed by Freemasons. Both are true. Everyone outside the Jail was a Freemason: Jailer, sheriff, deputy, governor, Joe, Hyrum, Taylor, etc, all were Freemasons. Those in jail were Mormon and polygamists. All true. Temple Time.
@94noj , hate to break the bad news, but Polygamy was practiced before the Polygamy Revelation. I wont prove that here. But to see truth on the subject on polygamy see "the Nauvoo Endowment Ceremonies, a Documentary History, 1844-46" , authors are LDS,And Sacred Loneliness", Mormon. In "Nauvoo..." you will see the full extent of polygamy. Sacred Loneliness shows J Smith marriages. If you type in the words there are probably videos on the books
cant wait to miss that! you forgot to add all the other crap that goes with being a mormon. like after you attend and join, they put you to work, doing the guided church guidlines and if you dont do them you cant live with God when You die. you go from free in Christ, to bondage in an orginized cult religion. Look up the fifteen things that make a church a cult and you will think mormonism. I love how basic this vid makes it sound, I assure you its not.
@rocco434 To visit a mormon church? yes it is that simple. To be a mormon? No, You need to put some real effort if you want to be with God. We are here to be tested not to do as we please all day. Not that God doesn't want us to have fun it's just that there is a time and place for everything and God wants us to have him in mind at all times. If you don't believe in doing yout part to be saved this is NOT your church
@94noj I posted 3 videos on Mormon Adam God Doctrine. As taught be Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and others... It's a big chew, so bring a tooth brush. And some mouth wash.
@IExposeMormonism seriously? you made an account just to "expose mormonism?" don't you have anything better to do than sit online and try to tear apart other people's religions?
@cjns06 Yes,I expose the truth of Mormonism. Like Adam=God Doctrine. Perhaps you should ask Joe what gave him the right to "nullify all non Mormon marriages and contracts", define innocent blood and to threaten all wives with death for non compliance in his Polygamy revelation. Ask him. Ask what right he (you) have in proclaiming all non Mormon worship "anathema". The Abraham papyrus is a bad joke. The BofM is a stolen plagiarized lie. the Mountain Meadows Massacre is the fruit of Mormonism
@rocco434 To visit a mormon church? yes it is that simple. To be a mormon? No, You need to put some real effort if you want to be with God. We are here to be tested not to do as we please all day. Not that God doesn't want us to have fun it's just that there is a time and place for everything and God wants us to have him in mind at all times. If you don't believe in doing your part to be saved this is NOT your church
Why not say Hallelujah ? We are supposed to go to church to praise God and learn about him, isn't that the highest praise you can give him ? Or is it that Mormons don't go to church for that purpose?
@thaiamer we praise god but in different ways that we consider more reverent, you can say hallelujah all you want at home but in our sunday service we choose more reverent behavior, sometimes converts do say that during service though and its not like we tell them to shut it, its just not the norm.
just about every single detail of what is described here is copied heavily from Christian traditions. Joseph Smith condemned and insulted evangelical Christianity. Mormonism is shot through with Smith's false teachings and extremely misleading ideas. lds mixes lots of verses taken straight from King James Bible, with writings of mormon founders, who were money-hungry, hypocritical, deceptive men. It's easy to avoid mormon confusion nowadays by reading the many websites and books exposing it
Your underwear might be "of the devil"? Defensive much? Please reread your last post for a good example of "silly". Especially that last sentence, which is comedy gold.
"Everyone we know is doing this (production) together," added Jake Hansen, 18, of the Thatcher 6th Ward, Thatcher Arizona Stake. "Everyone wanted to get into this."
The Gila Valley, they explained, is different that other communities because families have roots in the area that run very deep.
Wondering would you let a surgeon who had amnesia and had forgotten their medical training operate on you? Of course not. Then, could someone please explain to me what kind of sense it makes that Mormonism teaches a "pre-existent" life where Mormons were taught the whole of Mormonism, just to come to earth and have celestial amnesia. Why then "pre-existent" teaching and life?
@theminimumdog I don't know what you are talking about. Where in Mormon doctrine does it say the Gospel is preached in pre-existence? This isn't Mormon doctrine, sorry.
I am a hispanic member of the church of Jesus Christ of LDS and have had many ups & downs & been on both sides of the spectrum with friends & family on each side here in Vegas,I can say this,there is an answer to anything that anyone needs to know ! If you have faith enough to pray to a God that will answer you then I promise that you will get an answer ... I have received an answer so many times !
I am a hispanic male raised in the church but never forced to do or not do anything ! I fell away more than a few times but always knew what I was getting into or out of . I have always felt the Holy Spirit in my soul when obedient to the Lord , my Savior , Jesus Christ (& the lack of spirit when disobedient)
I'm disappointed that this video didn't address what kind of underwear to wear and what the secret handshake is. If I become Mormon, can I still read magazines printed on gloss paper? Can I drink Coke Zero? Should I pouf my bangs up a bit?
@KraftwithaK What kind of underwear do you wear and why the obsession with underwear? It comes off a little freaky to ask random people about their underwear. This is not acceptable behavior in our society to ask strangers about their choice of underwear.
@KraftwithaK Oh, I was just saying that to show how silly it is. I wouldn't care what kind of underwear you wear. That is your choice. Mine I care not to talk about, does that make them secret or of the devil cause I don't shout from the roof tops what my underwear is like?
Power pick: In one fell swoop, Richard K. Miller highlights some of the fantastic new online developments in "Mormon Scholars Testify and Vertical Testimony Sites." If you haven't checked out Mormon Scholars Testify (or haven't lately) there are new testimonies, including a wonderful one from Richard Bushman added on Sunday.
Miller also discusses other new "vertical testimony" sites, including Mormons Believe and the still-in-development Why I Believe. It's electrifying what's happening in the virtual world through blogs and sites such as these.
For my part, I know this site has been in development for years, and I am delighted to see it come to fruition and am excited to see what is further implemented as it grows.
Mormon video and yet people still watch it just to critice it. # 2 noone will leave Mormons alone. Don't respond to this if you'll just criticize back.
I really dont think some mormons really know what they believe I will stick with a belief system that was way before the book of mormon ever was invented. Its really amazing that the church was wrong all the way until Joseph Smith found the so called gold plates. I respect what ever you want to believe but when mormons tell me that they are the only right belief and say they believe in the bible as Gods only word, I know better.
the mormon sacriment is not about jesus,(small j) because mormons do not have crosses in their steak houses. how can you remember and reflect when a mormon cannot see the cross, and remember that should have been me on there instead. No a mormon sacriment is actually to remember or renew his or her temple vows. how different a communion service in a Christian church where you actually partake of the elements bread and grape juice. Bread and water hmmm, reminds me of jail.
@bigbear6718 We do not have crosses on our churches because...
we celebrate the life of Christ as well as his death. But we also believe in his resurrection. All of it has important meaning in our lifes. We do believe in Jesus and we remember our baptismal covenants. Not temple vows. Really, learn about our church and gain an understanding before you judge or have an opinion about us. Get both sides then deciede.
@cuteblondee 1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
I agree. Also consider that the sign of the cross is only assumed to be Christian. Actually hundreds were crucified on the same day. It actually is one of the signs Horus the god of the sun.
joe smith is the leader of the cult religion known as Mormonism which in more recent times have changed their name to LDS in an effort to draw more people since their history is less than desireable
Riiiiigggghhht, and Obama wasn't born in the USA, Bush was behind 9/11 and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll.
Look, you can say a lot of things about Mormons or their church, but trying to sell me that they are this evil organization bend on world domination you won't. They are MAINLY good people trying to do good things. I am sorry if you have had or are having a bad experience, whatever your bad experience I assure you its not the norm.
@awolLDSasap I am sorry that this happened to you or that you think this way. Really, I don't think people will stare at you. I think they will understand.
@cuteblondee Like I said. It would depend on the ward you attend. There is an underlying, unseen competition going on within the membership. People that suceed in life or hold higher positions in the church are treated as if they have been more worthy or rewarded by God is some manner. This is what the church is all about. Praising men and their works. In the New Testament, you will find that God rejects all works to pay for salvation to remove the PRIDE of men.
Joseph Smith was thought of as a liar and story-teller because people did not like him and his beliefs. If Joseph had told everyone he saw one God, then so many awful things wouldn't have been said about him.
@BrigHamYun: J. Smith was thought a liar b/c he was found guilty in a court of law of having perpetrated an act of fraud. He was also noted on many occasions telling demonstrable lies & making up fabulous stories could not be true. He was a compulsive liar. These are simply historical facts.
Yeah, and Jesus was a heretic and deserved to be crucified. (not that Joseph Smith is ANYWHERE near the level of Christ)
If you believe the findings of that Kangaroo court then you are truly mislead. In fact the Gov. of Missouri after Gov. Boggs apologized multiple times for the GRAVE injustices committed against Smith and the Mormons.
@pilottim79: What does the state of Missouri have to do w/ this? I am talking about an incident years before Smith began claiming to have the power to see angels & to magically read plates. He was merely defrauding people w/ the promise of finding buried treasure w/ his magic stones. He realized that it was safer to help people find treasure in Heaven, so to speak. Invisible spiritual treasures aren't covered by the courts.
According to Mormon theology, Jesus is the brother of all spirits born in heaven. He is also the spirit brother of Lucifer.
According to the Bible, Jesus is not the brother of all spirits born in heaven and he is not the spirit brother of Lucifer. Lucifer is an angel created by Jesus (who created all angels). Lucifer rebelled against God. Only those that do the will of the Father are considered spiritual brothers and sisters of Jesus (Mark 3:35).
According to human history you are also related to Adolf Hitler, Ivan the Terrible, Saddam Husein, Ramses and a host of others. That means little if not zero as far as your righteousness goes.
As for that angel of light business, it doesn't wash. The devil is all about not having people repent and except Jesus. The LDS make giant efforts to preach Jesus Christ and repentance. "A house divided can not stand". I don't like all Calvinist doctrine, but I don't thing they are led by Satanism.
According to human history..." ?!?!?! What the..? Are you related to Rod Serling from the twighlight zone or what? (Cue the theme music here). That JS saw a satanic manafestation is totally probable. Jesus stated in Matt. 24 that his appearing would never be a secret. As a Christian, JESUS is made unto me wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and sanctification, and redemption: Lds preach a different gospel and another jesus then that of Paul. This is easy to prove.
@cuteblondee Which is against what the bible clearly teaches in that "His appearing would never be in secret". What IS secret about the false account of Joseph, is that curiously, no one but him SAW it. So in THAT sense, it was in secret and against the clear teaching of the bible. BTW your sentence structure, like all of mormonism, makes little sense. The "fact" that Joseph "told" people what he said does not make it valid. Jesus said, when He appears, the whole world will see him.
@cuteblondee Which is against what the bible clearly teaches in that "His appearing would never be in secret". What IS secret about the false account of Joseph, is that curiously, no one but him SAW it. So in THAT sense, it was in secret and against the clear teaching of the bible. BTW your sentence structure, like all of mormonism, makes little sense. The "fact" that Joseph "told" people what he said does not make it valid. Jesus said, when He appears, the whole world will see him.
@cuteblondee Free agency you say? There is no free agency. You must accept Joseph Smith & the Bookofmormon or you will be chastised and shunned by the brethren and the members. You must conform. That's theocratic rule.
@theminimumdog God the father created all spirits (as well as his son Jesus Christ) - theres a book called Jesus the Christ by James Talmage that is very awesome & in depth with scriptural references everywhere - u should check it out ... i'm reading it now !
You really need to decide for yourself whether you have the Son Himself, or merely a church that uses His name, or perhaps nothing involved with Him at all. Anything other than having the Son Himself means you do not have eternal life. You can have the Son Himself by turning from your sins and trusting in Him and Him alone. He can be truly yours, regardless of who you are, what you've done, or what church you belong to (or don't belong to, for that matter).
"The role of an Area Seventy is to act under the direction of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in building up and regulating the affairs of the Church in all nations," Elder Hallstrom said. "The Twelve are to call upon the Seventy to help in preaching and administering the gospel."
Luputa, Democratic Republic of the Congo 23 November 2009 Dancing, shouts of joy and speeches marked the end of a significant milestone for residents recently in several villages of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Water finally gushed out from an 18-mile-long pipe to the African villages of Tshiabobo, Mafumba, Kasha, Ibola and will be in Luputa City by next summer.
...Unless you show up on Fast & Testimony meeting, in which case you will hear people revere Joe Smithm gold plates, etc. instead of Christ and hear people testify for that which they believe to be true.
Yes but rarely is showing where the hearts and minds of most members truly are. Questioning whether or not Mormons are Christian does indeed become valid with such things.
Only one mass is dedicated to Christ. Does that invalidate Catholics Christianity? (maybe that is a bad example) Even so every prayer, talk, testimony, and blessing is ended, "In the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen". So you will hear the Name Jesus Christ more than anyone else in a LDS Church.
That is a horrible example indeed. Rhetorically and programmaticaly ending with "in the name of Jesus Christ..." validates absolutely nothing. Neither does putting it in capital letters on the side of the church. It is about the doctrine that is taught. Hearing a name means nothing unless you are actually teaching about Christ. Also, what evidence do you have that you hear the name of Christ more in a Mormon church. I would contest such.
CLEARLY praestant8 has NEVER EVER EVER EVER been to a Mormon church, and is thus committing a sin of bearing false witness. Please repent and come unto Christ and be saved.
@pilottim79 AHAHAHHAHA! ROFL!! I needed a good laugh! If I could have gone to the temple and served a mission without ever having been to church that would have been an achievement indeed! You might want to repent of your own bearing of false witness of someone you know NOTHING about. Oh, and I have been saved by the Jesus' death on the cross, thank you! Dude, you've made my day. Thank you!
Get a Bible, a library card and most of all, internet access BEFORE entering a mormon church service. Listen to many real Christian testimonies posted on YT on the "OUT of mormonism or ex LDS to Jesus catagory. Please do not join mormonism. It is a cult theologically and sociallogically. Jesus is LORD. Read the New testament book of John and the Pauline epistles. Therein you will find the TRUE Gospel. Amen.
Bur: Mormonism is a cult. The mormon jesus does not exist because he is not real. Biblical Jesus is the Messiah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, Emmanuel, the Son of God, The Chief Shepherd The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, Chief Cornerstone, The Word or God. The only mediator between God and man-(sorry LDS prophets and apostles).
He is NOT the brother of Lucifer, or anyone's elder brother.
Cult: A formal religious veneration worship a system of religious beliefs and ritual also its body of adherents a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious also its body of adherents a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator great devotion to a person idea object movement or work as a film or book especially such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad the object of such devotion a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion.
And since Jesus is the creator, (Collosians 1:15-20) He could not be lucifers brother, since he created Lucifer. Man never existed in any pre-mortal state before being born, either.
7 And there was a war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
So he was one of the heavenly hosts before choosing to evil.
Correct. I am aware of those verses. Indeed they bolster my prior point that since lucifer was a created being, (By Christ). He never was the brother of the Biblical Jesus. It is quite probable that lucifer DID transform himself into an Angel of Light during Joseph Smiths first vision, since the boy was already into all sorts of occultic practices, that much is a fact.
An accurate video. I would advise any interested person to simply go, and see for yourself, in spite of those who would have you take their word rather than make up your own mind based upon personal experience.
do yourselves a favor and dont go to church! I spent 23 years going, and wasted much of my time and energy, all devoted to an organization that prides itself and lies to its people!
As a former Mormon, this video is fairly accurate of what to expect at a mormon church. Very formal, and fake, nothing much to learn about God, much to learn about the men that created the mormon church, especially Joseph Smith, who dreamed up the Book of Mormon. If you are thinking of becoming a Mormon, my advice would be, to read and carefully study the Bible, because it is the word of God, and run very fast away from the Mormon church, before they get you brainwashed.
@carterfamily8903 My friend, I praise the Lord for your decision on leaving this hell-elaborated trap called Mormon Church! I hope you have found the ONLY true gospel of our Lord Jesus on the pages of the Bible, the ONLY book we shoud read and follow. God bless you.
@adalbertomodesusa I could only leave Mormonism, after being set free from the lies, by the Way the Truth and the Life, Jesus Christ John 14:6. The Bible is indeed the word of God, and the only book that can be fully trusted, and should be read and followed carefully, by anyone who wishes to have a real relationship, with the only true God. God bless you. Any Mormons reading this message, please read John 3, Romans 11:6, Ephesians 2:8,9 & 1 Corinthians 1:17-21.
@pilottim79 Proverbs 30:5,6 says that every word of God is pure, & it says not to add to it, unless we be found a liar. Revelation 22:18,19 say that if any man adds to this book, that God will add the plagues of the book to that person, & if they take away from this book God would take their part out of the book of life. Joseph Smith, not only tampered with the word of God throughout the Bible, but he even added to & removed specifically from Revelation, which tells me, he is certainly in Hell.
@carterfamily8903 So, you get those scriptures from your Evangelist website? Do you even know anything about the Bible? Those are the OLDEST anti-Mormon arguments in the book my man. First, read Deut. 4:2, it says the same thing. Does that mean we should not accept everything written after it? Oh, and hate to tell you Revelations wasn't the last book written in the Bible chronologically. So, if we followed that scripture literally we would be cutting sections out of the Bible.
@pilottim79 I've read the Bible myself over a dozen times. There is no book of Revelations, it is the book of Revelation. What book do you think was the last book written in the Bible? My sourcers certainly indicate it was Revelation. Hebrews 1:1-3 indicates that prophets ended with Christ. It is interesting how the truth about the lies of Mormonism, is turned into anti-Mormon material, by the Mormon church, yet their beliefs are anti-Christ and the Mormon church wants to be considered Christian
@carterfamily8903 Ah yes the anthem of a person who just lost an argument, criticizing spelling and typos. You can read Hebrews 1:1-3 all you want if you keep ignoring all the other scriptures like Amos 3:7 and multiple others that say God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. If there are no prophets after Christ how come Paul, Peter, John didn't just go home. We should probably discount all their prophesies then right?
@pilottim79 They were apostles, not prophets. They did write prophetically in their writings. Speaking of prophecy & prophets, if U think the Mormon false prophets, R real prophets, why do they never prophecy anything? Do U frequently declare yourself a victor of a war that was never even fought? To be an apostle was to be a first hand witness of Jesus Christ, & what he did. Apostle was not some office to rotate people into for forever. Revelation 21:14 indicates very clearly there R only 12.
@carterfamily8903 "They were apostles, not prophets. They did write prophetically in their writings." wow, just wow, do you read what you write? Then what is a prophet if not one who talks to God and writes prophetically? (Paul). Oh, and Mormon prophets talk prophetically ALL the time. Plus, that isn't the ONLY role a prophet has.
@carterfamily8903 Please explain what you mean: "their beliefs are anti-Christ". As a practicing Mormon, I can comfortably say we believe in Christ, that he atoned for our sins, and that he lives up in heaven with God the Father. How is any of that "anti-Christ"?
@dobermuffin The Christ of the Bible, created from nothing, all that exists, including U, me, & Satan. He existed from the beginning, everything else was created by Him. Isaiah 44:24 Nehemiah 9:6 John 1:1-3,14 Colossians 2:13-18 etc. Anything that demeans Christ, is anti-Christ. Christ alone is the way to heaven John 14:6 John 3:18,36. The only way to heaven is through the grace of God, & there is absolutely nothing we could ever do, to earn it. Romans 11:6 Ephesians 2:8,9 First Cor. 1:17-31.
@carterfamily8903 I see nothing in your logic that "proves" us "anti-Christ". You say "The Christ of the Bible" like it's supposed to be someone different from "our" Christ- it's not. We believe in the bible. We do believe in grace; it's what makes up the difference between how you are and how you're supposed to be- it doesn't give you a free ride (like some people seem to believe).
P.S. Quoting a bunch of scripture does nothing for your argument, it just makes your comment confusing.
@dobermuffin If you find the word of God confusing, I'm sorry. The Mormon teachings about Christ, contradict the Bible at every turn. The Bible does not teach a pre-existence, it does not teach that R spirits or matter always existed, it does not teach that Jesus is literally R brother, or that He the creator of us all, is a brother of Satan, who He created. Grace does not help us get into heaven, it is the complete way into Heaven. Our most righteous acts we ever do, R filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6
@carterfamily8903 I'm not going to continue this pointless back and forth. You're last response had some fundamental things about mormons wrong: God created us all, not Jesus. We believe they are separate people. If Satan wasn't made by God/Jesus/whatever you believe, how was he made/came into being? Simply saying he was there is no better than saying a magic leprechaun made him with the help of a cackling witch and 3 well-groomed rabbits.
If you bother responding, please know that I won't.
@dobermuffin The Bible, as the verses I gave U clearly indicate, teaches Jesus is God, not a god, & that He created all that exists. A real Christian, knows that Jesus Christ is God, & not some sub deity or exalted man, who died so some other exalted man could B "worshipped". Romans 1 teaches that idolators often change God into a man, God is not a man Numbers 23:19 John 4:24 He is Spirit. The hardest verse in the Bible to believe, & 1 no Mormon believes if they acccept Mormonism is Genesis 1:1
@carterfamily8903 when you said Jesus is God, what do you realy mean by that? i hope your not saying that Jesus is God the Father. just be clear in your coment, so others wont be confused.
@71gk The Bible teaches that within the one Spirit Being that is God, there are three persons. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Siamese twins, are two persons that share one human being. Jesus is not the Father. John 1:1-3 Philippians 2:5-11 Hebrews 1:8-12 First John 5:7 Isaiah 43:10-13 and 44:6-8 etc. There is only one God. Jesus is God, The Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God. God is unique, there is none like Him. God cannot properly be defined, there is nothing to compare Him to.
@carterfamily8903 well here is a mormon that believes genesis 1:1 and Jesus is God, God the Son who died for all of us so that we can be forgiven of our sins and return to live with him and his literal Heavenly Father one day. saying that he is the Son of God does not lessen him, he is and will always be my Savior and i could not be happy without the sacrifice he gave for all of us.
@stntx04 Jesus is not a god, He is the only God, Isaiah 43:11. There is not a verse in the Bible that supports an idea of us existing with God, before "coming to earth" The Bible teaches that God forms the spirit of man inside of him. Genesis 1:1 speaks of a real beginning of all things, except for God. Mormonism teaches there were many "beginnings" before it, and will be many after it. God knowing us, before He creates us, does not mean we know Him, before we exist. Jesus created all John 1:1-3
@stntx04 Read John 1:1-14 there was nothing before Jesus. Jesus is God, the only God & Savior Isaiah 43:10,11 everything that physically exists was created by Jesus. No man will ever do anything 2 deserve heaven, but we all do things earning & deserving hell Romans 3:23. Those who enter heaven do so only by the grace of God Romans 6:23. Jesus is the total way 2 heaven John 3:18,36 & 14:6. Mormonism teaches that there never was a real beginning, though this is the 1st thing taught in the Bible.
@carterfamily8903 lol well an argument like that is the reason so many people are turing to atheism, because its dumb and doesn't fit the laws of science matter doesn't come from nothing it always has a starting place, and yes the LDS faith believes in a beginning we don't focus on the other things that came before because they don't matter for us, what matters is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ "Father, not my will but thine be done"
@stntx04 Read Hebrews 1:8-12 where the Father calls the Son God, and declares that the Son created the heavens and the Earth. There was a designer, Who invented DNA, seeds, etc. and the designer was not a seed and did not have a body that was already made out of DNA. Romans 1 teaches that idolators like to turn God into a man. The Bible teaches that God is Omnipotent, which means all powerful, and not challengeable by anyone, or anything. God is the source of all power & never received His power
@carterfamily8903 There is always a begining, nothing comes from nowhere. He was given his power from his father, if he had rejected his father then he would have been condemned like lucifer was, but he believed in the lords plan and became the way for us to be saved so he was given all that his father has. i am not saying he is a man, but he had to gain a body to fully achieve his mission. And christ is God, God the Son, not God the Father
@stntx04 You will not find a single verse in the Bible to support your claims. Jesus always was, is, and will always be God. John 1:1-3,14 Hebrews 1:8-12 Philippians 2:5-12 Colossians 1:15-18 Isaiah 43:1,11 & 44:6-8 etc. Jesus is the Creator of satan, the creator of all things. He is not our elder spirit brother, that idea is total Blasphemy against God. God is not a man Numbers 23:19. The Bible certainly does not in any way suggest that The beginning, was one of many beginnings.
@carterfamily8903 you can throw all the bible verses you want at me but i know i speak the truth and i have scripture that you don't have, you don't believe to be the word and work of God and that is fine, that is your opinion, but i know it to be true i testify to you of that and i hope we can end the conversation in agreeing to disagree? Friends?
@stntx04 U have a right to your opinions, but Jesus declared eternity was at stake, if R beliefs R not grounded in Truth. The very first thing Satan did, when he aproached eve, was to misquote and cause doubt on the word of God. Gen 3:1 His second thing he did was to deny the word of God, and replace it with his own words, promising Eve that she would be a god, if she followed him and disobeyed God. Gen 3:4,5. It is scary to me as a former Mormon to see that this is exactly what Mormonism does.
@carterfamily8903 i too believe eternity is at stake and i know i AM grounded in the truth, you can never convince me otherwise! thats why i said we should just drop it, i know i am right and you know you are right, there is no where to go and nothing to be gained by a continued argument
@stntx04 Truth can stand up to careful scrutiny, which is something that Mormonism cannot do. I used to be a Mormon, trying to earn my way into "heaven". We can and do deserve Hell, we can never deserve Heaven. Romans 3:23 & 6:23. Look at page 42 of your Pearl of Great Price & be honest with yourself. Do figures 2 & 4 look like men or women? Look at the descriptions Joseph Smith gave for them. Then if truth is really your goal, do some studying on the egyptian gods Isis, Maat, & Osiris.
@pilottim79 Friend, You want to know why we, Christians, follow the Bible, and ONLY the Bible? Well, I could give you HUNDREDS of passages that will say that, but because that would require a good amount of time, let's just think about this one: Galatians 1:8. I know....It's kind of confusing isn't it? Look, Jesus Christ DOES NOT need anyone or any religion to get His message out! He is the LORD and the ONLY and sufficient Savior. We DON'T need Joseph Smith or Mary, Peter or John! Jesus is LORD!
@adalbertomodesusa That's nice... but Mormons believe more or less the same thing. Joseph Smith was a prophet... he spoke for God, but did not make things up on his own. He translated the Book of Mormon, but he didn't write it. We believe that God speaks through his prophets, not the prophets making stuff up they think God wants us to hear.
Please get some more information before breaking out the caps lock as often as you did there.
@dobermuffin You said "Mormons believe more or less the same thing" My friend, more or less is NOT enough! You can't almost believe in Christ, you can't almost believe that He is the only way. I don't need to get any more information about anything, because what I know about Jesus and His gospel is in the Bible, the only and sufficient source of truth. Again, Jesus never needed anyone to get His message out. He left us His very own word, the Bible, and that's enough! God bless you.
@adalbertomodesusa O.K.- you're not open to learning more about God, Jeses, or religion. You're decision... but why are you bothering others about theirs?
@dobermuffin Who said I'm not open? Look, all we need to know about religion is that it won't work. in the end, you'll find only frustration, disappointment and worst of all, spending the eternity without God, in a place the Bible describes by Jesus Himself as Hell, prepared for Satan and his angels. Jesus said it! He CANNOT change His own word! About bothering...1 Cor. 9:16. It's my OBLIGATION to preach the true gospel of the Lord Jesus. I Can't, and I won't stop preaching the TRUE Gospel!
@adalbertomodesusa That's fine, preach what you think is true... but could you avoid doing it in the YouTube comments? It really just ticks people off; you're getting no where...
Please don't bother responding. If you do, I won't.
@dobermuffin How typical.........Ending a conversation like this. When we hear the truth, we usually get a little frustrated, because the truth sometimes hurts us, in a good way. Some people receive it, others reject it. About me not preaching on YouTube, well, that's just not happening. Sorry. Jesus loves you, young man! God bless, and may you hava a encounter with the Lord one day!
Remember Christians, the will of God is no Catholic, Protestant,Orthodox, Penticostal, Adventist, JW, Mormon Etc. NO DIVISION, Only Christians, holy, helping and sharing instead of buying and selling.
"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." (John 17:9-21)
why dont they ever say hallelujah?.. i mean i dont in church.. i say amen... but thats a weird thing to say not to say it........ espeacially when hallelujah is literally the same meaning as amen... which means so be it... or may it be true
thats like saying dont say Yeshua... say Jesus
Yeshua is the Hebrew translation and Jesus English.. yet still the same
That is a sad status of affairs to your lack of knowledge of LDS doctrine. However it is by far the Sunday School teachers to blame for wanting to play it safe than any fault of your own. For example, the hallelujah shout is preformed at dedications. It is also found in church literature and scripture.
Actually my knowledge and experience with things Mormon is exemplary enough to know that the word used was "Hosanna", and not Alleluia. And was done so at the dedication of the Kirkland temple. In more recent times this has been followed by the singing of The Spirit of God. If you are active LDS your lack of historic knowledge is indeed concerning.
Agree or not, in LDS culture the word hallelujah is considered too holy to be commonly said. It is reserved for special occasions. Off hand Mo-Tab singing the Hallelujah Chorus every Christmas is one example. I also found this quote, "Jesus is our Lord and Redeemer. At every opportunity we ought to proclaim, Hallelujah! How great Thou art! Elder John K. Carmack of the Seventy
It maybe it is not used as often as you would like, or as often as possible. However, it is still used by the LDS folk
38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
It is not premissible at all. If someone on youtube has done such you might refer them to one of Gorden B. Hinkley's last conferences last session, or the october 2001 when refering mostly to muslems but other faiths as whole and why we don't condem them.
However since the church's founding it pulled the first punch by saying all other faiths are false and an abomination. While Hinckley may have smoothed the waters there are still missionaries running around saying Mormonism is the only one with the truth and the only way to reach eternal glory in the highest degree. It's a problem.
360 is the number of degrees in a circle. That number came from the false idea that there are 360 days of a year. That was believed to be the sun's rotation around the earth.
Believing a given doctrine to be false does not automatically equate to condemnation. There is a line from outright evil to simple error.
So in order to find a church closest to you, you have to give them your address, not just a zip code. That way they will have your address so they can send Missionaries to your house...oh those sneaky Mormons.
IamASheep 1 week ago
Mormons are crazy weird
corbettdc 2 months ago
If only the real Gospel or the real Jesus were represented
This might not be to bad. Morman doctrine is not in harmony
with Biblical teachings. Bread and water?
TomMilnes61 2 months ago
If you are thinking of attending a Mormon service, turn off your brain and do not think. You are hear to be brainwashed, not learn anything. After the prayer, be sure to praise the Supreme Sun God of the Egyptians, Amen-Ra. Yes, this is where "amen" comes from. When the sacrament gets passed around, understand that though Jesus gave wine, Mormons give water as Wine is Verbotten. Unless you are Joseph Smith sitting in the Carthage Jail. Then it's okay to drink alcohol.
TheThunderduck 2 months ago
This is fucking crazy... Lets spend 3 hours a week wasting time in a overdone meeting hall with a bunch of crazy people... yeah that sounds great...
DaBluedude100 6 months ago
Hey guys here's an idea, how about we stop dissing and tearing apart other religions? It doesn't matter who we are or what we believe, isn't a main point of being christian to build others up? Why are we tearing down, it shouldn't matter what religion you are you what you believe, as long as you're trying right?
CameronBischoff 6 months ago
@CameronBischoff Find out what the claims of Mormonism are. They are very different than the claims of 2000 yrs of Christianity. How would you like it if someone took your life story and did a 180 degree turn with every single fact.
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago
@IExposeMormonism look, i understand what youre saying, but you are not listening to what i have to say. last time i checked, a christian is anyone and EVERYONE who believes in christ, and "Mormon" is just a nickname, they are called the church of JESUS CHRIST of ladder-day saints. and lets say even if their teaching differ from other christian faiths, that doesnt make them bad people. if you want to know what the LDS teach, why dont you try asking one instead of assuming shit?
CameronBischoff 6 months ago
@CameronBischoff My name is there because I own hundreds of original publications, many Mormon, covering all aspects of Mormonism. Jesus can't be a polygamist and a monogamist. He cant be both a monotheist and a polytheist. Someone is right here and Mormonism isn't right.
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago 2
@IExposeMormonism and 2000 years ago? yeah lets see 2000 years ago there were apostles, prophets, missionaries, no pay for the administers of the church, sounds to me like the mormons are the closest thing to christs church 2000 years later dont you think? food for thought pal.
CameronBischoff 6 months ago
@CameronBischoff Chew on this:: Adam=God Doctrine. A polygamy revelation that "nullifies all non Mormon marriages and contracts, threatens wives with death for non compliance and defines innocent blood. A polytheistic god who was once a man and became a god thru "works", this god was born into a world of pre-existing matter and is just a god among gods. He also impregnated Mary. Jesus is also a polygamist. Chew on the absurd Abraham Papyrus and the plagiarized stolen BofM, with 4000+ changes.
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago
@Ingle92protege we actually do teach out of the bible quite a bit :) the thing that people have a hard time understanding is that, the book of mormon was not meant to replace the bible, we believe strongly in the teachings of the bible. the book of mormon is merely "a second testiment of jesus christ" if you have any other questions please ask! i will be happy to answer them :)
CameronBischoff 6 months ago
@CameronBischoff
You claim one thing with your words & believe just the opposite with your heart. Why do you deceive people by saying you teach out of the Bible? You know for a fact, you only teach "some" things out of the Bible. For instance, the Bible teaches there only one God, that God is spirit, not flesh & bone, that Jesus was virgin born. You are in opposition to the Bible on these points, yet you make believe you are students of the Bible. You are not no matter how loud you cry.
digger629 3 months ago
hate to break it to you but It did NOT happen during JS's time. It wasn't until after JS got murdered did it start to occur.
94noj 8 months ago
Seperating people based on age and gender, where is that in Acts of the Apostles?
endofus 8 months ago
Praying that all Mormons wake up and realise they are believing lies..
LiLKinthehouse 10 months ago
@ :42, why is Archie sitting w/ Pres. Bush?
VictorLepanto 10 months ago
There's a few things you'll need to know... and more you know the less you'll go! "The Origin of Polygamy and Blood Atonement" by Joseph F Smith, 1915, explains much...He says JS was killed at Carthage because of polygamy. Brigham and others said JS was killed by Freemasons. Both are true. Everyone outside the Jail was a Freemason: Jailer, sheriff, deputy, governor, Joe, Hyrum, Taylor, etc, all were Freemasons. Those in jail were Mormon and polygamists. All true. Temple Time.
IExposeMormonism 1 year ago
@IExposeMormonism nope. Polygamy didn't start til after Joseph Smith
94noj 8 months ago
@94noj , hate to break the bad news, but Polygamy was practiced before the Polygamy Revelation. I wont prove that here. But to see truth on the subject on polygamy see "the Nauvoo Endowment Ceremonies, a Documentary History, 1844-46" , authors are LDS,And Sacred Loneliness", Mormon. In "Nauvoo..." you will see the full extent of polygamy. Sacred Loneliness shows J Smith marriages. If you type in the words there are probably videos on the books
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
cant wait to miss that! you forgot to add all the other crap that goes with being a mormon. like after you attend and join, they put you to work, doing the guided church guidlines and if you dont do them you cant live with God when You die. you go from free in Christ, to bondage in an orginized cult religion. Look up the fifteen things that make a church a cult and you will think mormonism. I love how basic this vid makes it sound, I assure you its not.
rocco434 1 year ago
@rocco434 To visit a mormon church? yes it is that simple. To be a mormon? No, You need to put some real effort if you want to be with God. We are here to be tested not to do as we please all day. Not that God doesn't want us to have fun it's just that there is a time and place for everything and God wants us to have him in mind at all times. If you don't believe in doing yout part to be saved this is NOT your church
94noj 8 months ago
@94noj I posted 3 videos on Mormon Adam God Doctrine. As taught be Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and others... It's a big chew, so bring a tooth brush. And some mouth wash.
IExposeMormonism 7 months ago
@IExposeMormonism seriously? you made an account just to "expose mormonism?" don't you have anything better to do than sit online and try to tear apart other people's religions?
cjns06 6 months ago
@cjns06 Yes,I expose the truth of Mormonism. Like Adam=God Doctrine. Perhaps you should ask Joe what gave him the right to "nullify all non Mormon marriages and contracts", define innocent blood and to threaten all wives with death for non compliance in his Polygamy revelation. Ask him. Ask what right he (you) have in proclaiming all non Mormon worship "anathema". The Abraham papyrus is a bad joke. The BofM is a stolen plagiarized lie. the Mountain Meadows Massacre is the fruit of Mormonism
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago
@rocco434 To visit a mormon church? yes it is that simple. To be a mormon? No, You need to put some real effort if you want to be with God. We are here to be tested not to do as we please all day. Not that God doesn't want us to have fun it's just that there is a time and place for everything and God wants us to have him in mind at all times. If you don't believe in doing your part to be saved this is NOT your church
94noj 8 months ago
Why not say Hallelujah ? We are supposed to go to church to praise God and learn about him, isn't that the highest praise you can give him ? Or is it that Mormons don't go to church for that purpose?
thaiamer 1 year ago
@thaiamer we praise god but in different ways that we consider more reverent, you can say hallelujah all you want at home but in our sunday service we choose more reverent behavior, sometimes converts do say that during service though and its not like we tell them to shut it, its just not the norm.
stntx04 1 year ago
just about every single detail of what is described here is copied heavily from Christian traditions. Joseph Smith condemned and insulted evangelical Christianity. Mormonism is shot through with Smith's false teachings and extremely misleading ideas. lds mixes lots of verses taken straight from King James Bible, with writings of mormon founders, who were money-hungry, hypocritical, deceptive men. It's easy to avoid mormon confusion nowadays by reading the many websites and books exposing it
bsl103158 1 year ago
@bsl103158 lol so to learn the truth about you i will go to everyone that hates you and ask them about you, yeah that makes sense good one!
stntx04 1 year ago
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I believe in God THE ETERNAL FATHER, in HIS SON Jesus Christ, And in the Holy Ghost.
tddoyle3 1 year ago
Your underwear might be "of the devil"? Defensive much? Please reread your last post for a good example of "silly". Especially that last sentence, which is comedy gold.
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
"Everyone we know is doing this (production) together," added Jake Hansen, 18, of the Thatcher 6th Ward, Thatcher Arizona Stake. "Everyone wanted to get into this."
The Gila Valley, they explained, is different that other communities because families have roots in the area that run very deep.
omiolo 1 year ago
Wondering would you let a surgeon who had amnesia and had forgotten their medical training operate on you? Of course not. Then, could someone please explain to me what kind of sense it makes that Mormonism teaches a "pre-existent" life where Mormons were taught the whole of Mormonism, just to come to earth and have celestial amnesia. Why then "pre-existent" teaching and life?
theminimumdog 1 year ago
@theminimumdog I don't know what you are talking about. Where in Mormon doctrine does it say the Gospel is preached in pre-existence? This isn't Mormon doctrine, sorry.
pilottim79 1 year ago
I am a hispanic member of the church of Jesus Christ of LDS and have had many ups & downs & been on both sides of the spectrum with friends & family on each side here in Vegas,I can say this,there is an answer to anything that anyone needs to know ! If you have faith enough to pray to a God that will answer you then I promise that you will get an answer ... I have received an answer so many times !
giojoe2319 1 year ago
I am a hispanic male raised in the church but never forced to do or not do anything ! I fell away more than a few times but always knew what I was getting into or out of . I have always felt the Holy Spirit in my soul when obedient to the Lord , my Savior , Jesus Christ (& the lack of spirit when disobedient)
giojoe2319 1 year ago
I'm disappointed that this video didn't address what kind of underwear to wear and what the secret handshake is. If I become Mormon, can I still read magazines printed on gloss paper? Can I drink Coke Zero? Should I pouf my bangs up a bit?
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
@KraftwithaK What kind of underwear do you wear and why the obsession with underwear? It comes off a little freaky to ask random people about their underwear. This is not acceptable behavior in our society to ask strangers about their choice of underwear.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 So then, why did you do it?
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
@KraftwithaK huh? do what?
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 Ask me what kind of underwear I wear?
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
@KraftwithaK Oh, I was just saying that to show how silly it is. I wouldn't care what kind of underwear you wear. That is your choice. Mine I care not to talk about, does that make them secret or of the devil cause I don't shout from the roof tops what my underwear is like?
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 For the record, I'm not wearing any.
KraftwithaK 1 year ago
all these people hating on Mormons! if you're so right, then stop judging Mormons and practice what you preach! amen.
justjoog 1 year ago
Power pick: In one fell swoop, Richard K. Miller highlights some of the fantastic new online developments in "Mormon Scholars Testify and Vertical Testimony Sites." If you haven't checked out Mormon Scholars Testify (or haven't lately) there are new testimonies, including a wonderful one from Richard Bushman added on Sunday.
omiolo 1 year ago
Miller also discusses other new "vertical testimony" sites, including Mormons Believe and the still-in-development Why I Believe. It's electrifying what's happening in the virtual world through blogs and sites such as these.
omiolo 1 year ago
For my part, I know this site has been in development for years, and I am delighted to see it come to fruition and am excited to see what is further implemented as it grows.
omiolo 1 year ago
Mormon video and yet people still watch it just to critice it. # 2 noone will leave Mormons alone. Don't respond to this if you'll just criticize back.
potterpuppetpals7 1 year ago
You know what sucks. Is that # 1 this is a
potterpuppetpals7 1 year ago
google Doe's Account, mindblowing
sweetlapaz 1 year ago
I really dont think some mormons really know what they believe I will stick with a belief system that was way before the book of mormon ever was invented. Its really amazing that the church was wrong all the way until Joseph Smith found the so called gold plates. I respect what ever you want to believe but when mormons tell me that they are the only right belief and say they believe in the bible as Gods only word, I know better.
bigbear6718 1 year ago
i am christan i ready the holy bible i dont belive in mormen is boring church i like to prays to my god
redoma2008 1 year ago
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Ten sign of a CULT/Dangerous Leader(s)
1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
Balla1965 1 year ago
the mormon sacriment is not about jesus,(small j) because mormons do not have crosses in their steak houses. how can you remember and reflect when a mormon cannot see the cross, and remember that should have been me on there instead. No a mormon sacriment is actually to remember or renew his or her temple vows. how different a communion service in a Christian church where you actually partake of the elements bread and grape juice. Bread and water hmmm, reminds me of jail.
bigbear6718 1 year ago
@bigbear6718 We do not have crosses on our churches because...
we celebrate the life of Christ as well as his death. But we also believe in his resurrection. All of it has important meaning in our lifes. We do believe in Jesus and we remember our baptismal covenants. Not temple vows. Really, learn about our church and gain an understanding before you judge or have an opinion about us. Get both sides then deciede.
cuteblondee 1 year ago
@cuteblondee 1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
@cuteblondee
I agree. Also consider that the sign of the cross is only assumed to be Christian. Actually hundreds were crucified on the same day. It actually is one of the signs Horus the god of the sun.
Bureyeanne 1 year ago
joe smith is the leader of the cult religion known as Mormonism which in more recent times have changed their name to LDS in an effort to draw more people since their history is less than desireable
justwannamakeluv 1 year ago
Um, Jesus Christ holds the priesthood of Melchizedek now, not the Mormons.
rbright79 2 years ago
@rbright79
Yup, a totally true statement. Its Biblical truth.
NBK160 1 year ago
There will be glaring eyes if you do not take the sacrament. There will be glaring eyes if you fail to wear the appropriate clothing.
awolLDSasap 2 years ago
no there won't. Mormons are very accepting people.
pilottim79 1 year ago
You haven't seen the inner workings. I suppose it would depend on which ward you attend.
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
Riiiiigggghhht, and Obama wasn't born in the USA, Bush was behind 9/11 and there was a second gunman on the grassy knoll.
Look, you can say a lot of things about Mormons or their church, but trying to sell me that they are this evil organization bend on world domination you won't. They are MAINLY good people trying to do good things. I am sorry if you have had or are having a bad experience, whatever your bad experience I assure you its not the norm.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@awolLDSasap So true, so true!
praestant8 1 year ago
@awolLDSasap I am sorry that this happened to you or that you think this way. Really, I don't think people will stare at you. I think they will understand.
cuteblondee 1 year ago
@cuteblondee Like I said. It would depend on the ward you attend. There is an underlying, unseen competition going on within the membership. People that suceed in life or hold higher positions in the church are treated as if they have been more worthy or rewarded by God is some manner. This is what the church is all about. Praising men and their works. In the New Testament, you will find that God rejects all works to pay for salvation to remove the PRIDE of men.
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
Joseph Smith was thought of as a liar and story-teller because people did not like him and his beliefs. If Joseph had told everyone he saw one God, then so many awful things wouldn't have been said about him.
BrigHamYun 2 years ago
@BrigHamYun: J. Smith was thought a liar b/c he was found guilty in a court of law of having perpetrated an act of fraud. He was also noted on many occasions telling demonstrable lies & making up fabulous stories could not be true. He was a compulsive liar. These are simply historical facts.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
Yeah, and Jesus was a heretic and deserved to be crucified. (not that Joseph Smith is ANYWHERE near the level of Christ)
If you believe the findings of that Kangaroo court then you are truly mislead. In fact the Gov. of Missouri after Gov. Boggs apologized multiple times for the GRAVE injustices committed against Smith and the Mormons.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79: What does the state of Missouri have to do w/ this? I am talking about an incident years before Smith began claiming to have the power to see angels & to magically read plates. He was merely defrauding people w/ the promise of finding buried treasure w/ his magic stones. He realized that it was safer to help people find treasure in Heaven, so to speak. Invisible spiritual treasures aren't covered by the courts.
VictorLepanto 1 year ago
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BrigHamYun 2 years ago
Is this the milk before the meat they speak of and how come no mention of joe smith?
justwannamakeluv 2 years ago
Who is Joe Smith?
pilottim79 1 year ago
According to Mormon theology, Jesus is the brother of all spirits born in heaven. He is also the spirit brother of Lucifer.
According to the Bible, Jesus is not the brother of all spirits born in heaven and he is not the spirit brother of Lucifer. Lucifer is an angel created by Jesus (who created all angels). Lucifer rebelled against God. Only those that do the will of the Father are considered spiritual brothers and sisters of Jesus (Mark 3:35).
theminimumdog 2 years ago
According to human history you are also related to Adolf Hitler, Ivan the Terrible, Saddam Husein, Ramses and a host of others. That means little if not zero as far as your righteousness goes.
As for that angel of light business, it doesn't wash. The devil is all about not having people repent and except Jesus. The LDS make giant efforts to preach Jesus Christ and repentance. "A house divided can not stand". I don't like all Calvinist doctrine, but I don't thing they are led by Satanism.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
According to human history..." ?!?!?! What the..? Are you related to Rod Serling from the twighlight zone or what? (Cue the theme music here). That JS saw a satanic manafestation is totally probable. Jesus stated in Matt. 24 that his appearing would never be a secret. As a Christian, JESUS is made unto me wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and sanctification, and redemption: Lds preach a different gospel and another jesus then that of Paul. This is easy to prove.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
How is it a secret if they spend millions a year trying tell everyone?
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
@theminimumdog Jesus's appearance to Joseph was not secret. he told people and people know if Joseph becuase he saw jesus.
cuteblondee 1 year ago
@cuteblondee Which is against what the bible clearly teaches in that "His appearing would never be in secret". What IS secret about the false account of Joseph, is that curiously, no one but him SAW it. So in THAT sense, it was in secret and against the clear teaching of the bible. BTW your sentence structure, like all of mormonism, makes little sense. The "fact" that Joseph "told" people what he said does not make it valid. Jesus said, when He appears, the whole world will see him.
theminimumdog 1 year ago
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@cuteblondee Which is against what the bible clearly teaches in that "His appearing would never be in secret". What IS secret about the false account of Joseph, is that curiously, no one but him SAW it. So in THAT sense, it was in secret and against the clear teaching of the bible. BTW your sentence structure, like all of mormonism, makes little sense. The "fact" that Joseph "told" people what he said does not make it valid. Jesus said, when He appears, the whole world will see him.
theminimumdog 1 year ago
@Bureyeanne we believe in agency.. we are free to choose. That is what the names you have said were given and all us were given that.
cuteblondee 1 year ago
@cuteblondee Free agency you say? There is no free agency. You must accept Joseph Smith & the Bookofmormon or you will be chastised and shunned by the brethren and the members. You must conform. That's theocratic rule.
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
With Mormon doctrine not only are we all spirit brothers and sisters, Christ is the elder spirit brother to all of us.
praestant8 2 years ago
@theminimumdog God the father created all spirits (as well as his son Jesus Christ) - theres a book called Jesus the Christ by James Talmage that is very awesome & in depth with scriptural references everywhere - u should check it out ... i'm reading it now !
giojoe2319 1 year ago
You really need to decide for yourself whether you have the Son Himself, or merely a church that uses His name, or perhaps nothing involved with Him at all. Anything other than having the Son Himself means you do not have eternal life. You can have the Son Himself by turning from your sins and trusting in Him and Him alone. He can be truly yours, regardless of who you are, what you've done, or what church you belong to (or don't belong to, for that matter).
theminimumdog 2 years ago
"The role of an Area Seventy is to act under the direction of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in building up and regulating the affairs of the Church in all nations," Elder Hallstrom said. "The Twelve are to call upon the Seventy to help in preaching and administering the gospel."
omiolo 2 years ago
Water Reaches End of the Row in Congolese Villages
omiolo 2 years ago
Luputa, Democratic Republic of the Congo 23 November 2009 Dancing, shouts of joy and speeches marked the end of a significant milestone for residents recently in several villages of the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Water finally gushed out from an 18-mile-long pipe to the African villages of Tshiabobo, Mafumba, Kasha, Ibola and will be in Luputa City by next summer.
omiolo 2 years ago
...Unless you show up on Fast & Testimony meeting, in which case you will hear people revere Joe Smithm gold plates, etc. instead of Christ and hear people testify for that which they believe to be true.
praestant8 2 years ago
That is unfortunate because the purpose of the meeting is supposed to be exclusive to Jesus Christ.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Yes but rarely is showing where the hearts and minds of most members truly are. Questioning whether or not Mormons are Christian does indeed become valid with such things.
praestant8 2 years ago
Only one mass is dedicated to Christ. Does that invalidate Catholics Christianity? (maybe that is a bad example) Even so every prayer, talk, testimony, and blessing is ended, "In the Name of Jesus Christ. Amen". So you will hear the Name Jesus Christ more than anyone else in a LDS Church.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
That is a horrible example indeed. Rhetorically and programmaticaly ending with "in the name of Jesus Christ..." validates absolutely nothing. Neither does putting it in capital letters on the side of the church. It is about the doctrine that is taught. Hearing a name means nothing unless you are actually teaching about Christ. Also, what evidence do you have that you hear the name of Christ more in a Mormon church. I would contest such.
praestant8 2 years ago
CLEARLY praestant8 has NEVER EVER EVER EVER been to a Mormon church, and is thus committing a sin of bearing false witness. Please repent and come unto Christ and be saved.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 AHAHAHHAHA! ROFL!! I needed a good laugh! If I could have gone to the temple and served a mission without ever having been to church that would have been an achievement indeed! You might want to repent of your own bearing of false witness of someone you know NOTHING about. Oh, and I have been saved by the Jesus' death on the cross, thank you! Dude, you've made my day. Thank you!
praestant8 1 year ago
Sounds a little Robotic...ralf...
bipolar1984 2 years ago
Get a Bible, a library card and most of all, internet access BEFORE entering a mormon church service. Listen to many real Christian testimonies posted on YT on the "OUT of mormonism or ex LDS to Jesus catagory. Please do not join mormonism. It is a cult theologically and sociallogically. Jesus is LORD. Read the New testament book of John and the Pauline epistles. Therein you will find the TRUE Gospel. Amen.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
Jesus is, was and will always be a cultist.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Bur: Mormonism is a cult. The mormon jesus does not exist because he is not real. Biblical Jesus is the Messiah, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the Alpha and Omega, Emmanuel, the Son of God, The Chief Shepherd The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, Chief Cornerstone, The Word or God. The only mediator between God and man-(sorry LDS prophets and apostles).
He is NOT the brother of Lucifer, or anyone's elder brother.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
Cult: A formal religious veneration worship a system of religious beliefs and ritual also its body of adherents a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious also its body of adherents a system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator great devotion to a person idea object movement or work as a film or book especially such devotion regarded as a literary or intellectual fad the object of such devotion a usually small group of people characterized by such devotion.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Yep that is Jesus Christ in every respect.
As for Lucifer. 2 times in the Bible is says he lived with God before choosing evil. 1x in the Old Testament and 1x in the New Testament.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
And since Jesus is the creator, (Collosians 1:15-20) He could not be lucifers brother, since he created Lucifer. Man never existed in any pre-mortal state before being born, either.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
Would you like me to point the exact verses in the Bible for you?
Bureyeanne 2 years ago 2
You seem really confused. Are you a mormon?
What verses are you talking about? Pertaining to what? Can you stay on topic? Apparently not.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
Isa. 14: 12 12 How art thou fallen from heaven
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7 And there was a war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
So he was one of the heavenly hosts before choosing to evil.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Correct. I am aware of those verses. Indeed they bolster my prior point that since lucifer was a created being, (By Christ). He never was the brother of the Biblical Jesus. It is quite probable that lucifer DID transform himself into an Angel of Light during Joseph Smiths first vision, since the boy was already into all sorts of occultic practices, that much is a fact.
theminimumdog 2 years ago
An accurate video. I would advise any interested person to simply go, and see for yourself, in spite of those who would have you take their word rather than make up your own mind based upon personal experience.
archaeologyprof 2 years ago
interesting
TheVic81 2 years ago
do yourselves a favor and dont go to church! I spent 23 years going, and wasted much of my time and energy, all devoted to an organization that prides itself and lies to its people!
ArmyBuckeye84 2 years ago 2
As a former Mormon, this video is fairly accurate of what to expect at a mormon church. Very formal, and fake, nothing much to learn about God, much to learn about the men that created the mormon church, especially Joseph Smith, who dreamed up the Book of Mormon. If you are thinking of becoming a Mormon, my advice would be, to read and carefully study the Bible, because it is the word of God, and run very fast away from the Mormon church, before they get you brainwashed.
carterfamily8903 2 years ago 2
@carterfamily8903 My friend, I praise the Lord for your decision on leaving this hell-elaborated trap called Mormon Church! I hope you have found the ONLY true gospel of our Lord Jesus on the pages of the Bible, the ONLY book we shoud read and follow. God bless you.
adalbertomodesusa 1 year ago
@adalbertomodesusa I could only leave Mormonism, after being set free from the lies, by the Way the Truth and the Life, Jesus Christ John 14:6. The Bible is indeed the word of God, and the only book that can be fully trusted, and should be read and followed carefully, by anyone who wishes to have a real relationship, with the only true God. God bless you. Any Mormons reading this message, please read John 3, Romans 11:6, Ephesians 2:8,9 & 1 Corinthians 1:17-21.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 Where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the only book that can be fully trusted? I find this an unchristian belief.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 Proverbs 30:5,6 says that every word of God is pure, & it says not to add to it, unless we be found a liar. Revelation 22:18,19 say that if any man adds to this book, that God will add the plagues of the book to that person, & if they take away from this book God would take their part out of the book of life. Joseph Smith, not only tampered with the word of God throughout the Bible, but he even added to & removed specifically from Revelation, which tells me, he is certainly in Hell.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 So, you get those scriptures from your Evangelist website? Do you even know anything about the Bible? Those are the OLDEST anti-Mormon arguments in the book my man. First, read Deut. 4:2, it says the same thing. Does that mean we should not accept everything written after it? Oh, and hate to tell you Revelations wasn't the last book written in the Bible chronologically. So, if we followed that scripture literally we would be cutting sections out of the Bible.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 I've read the Bible myself over a dozen times. There is no book of Revelations, it is the book of Revelation. What book do you think was the last book written in the Bible? My sourcers certainly indicate it was Revelation. Hebrews 1:1-3 indicates that prophets ended with Christ. It is interesting how the truth about the lies of Mormonism, is turned into anti-Mormon material, by the Mormon church, yet their beliefs are anti-Christ and the Mormon church wants to be considered Christian
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 Ah yes the anthem of a person who just lost an argument, criticizing spelling and typos. You can read Hebrews 1:1-3 all you want if you keep ignoring all the other scriptures like Amos 3:7 and multiple others that say God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. If there are no prophets after Christ how come Paul, Peter, John didn't just go home. We should probably discount all their prophesies then right?
pilottim79 1 year ago
@pilottim79 They were apostles, not prophets. They did write prophetically in their writings. Speaking of prophecy & prophets, if U think the Mormon false prophets, R real prophets, why do they never prophecy anything? Do U frequently declare yourself a victor of a war that was never even fought? To be an apostle was to be a first hand witness of Jesus Christ, & what he did. Apostle was not some office to rotate people into for forever. Revelation 21:14 indicates very clearly there R only 12.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
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@carterfamily8903 "They were apostles, not prophets. They did write prophetically in their writings." wow, just wow, do you read what you write? Then what is a prophet if not one who talks to God and writes prophetically? (Paul). Oh, and Mormon prophets talk prophetically ALL the time. Plus, that isn't the ONLY role a prophet has.
pilottim79 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 Please explain what you mean: "their beliefs are anti-Christ". As a practicing Mormon, I can comfortably say we believe in Christ, that he atoned for our sins, and that he lives up in heaven with God the Father. How is any of that "anti-Christ"?
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin The Christ of the Bible, created from nothing, all that exists, including U, me, & Satan. He existed from the beginning, everything else was created by Him. Isaiah 44:24 Nehemiah 9:6 John 1:1-3,14 Colossians 2:13-18 etc. Anything that demeans Christ, is anti-Christ. Christ alone is the way to heaven John 14:6 John 3:18,36. The only way to heaven is through the grace of God, & there is absolutely nothing we could ever do, to earn it. Romans 11:6 Ephesians 2:8,9 First Cor. 1:17-31.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 I see nothing in your logic that "proves" us "anti-Christ". You say "The Christ of the Bible" like it's supposed to be someone different from "our" Christ- it's not. We believe in the bible. We do believe in grace; it's what makes up the difference between how you are and how you're supposed to be- it doesn't give you a free ride (like some people seem to believe).
P.S. Quoting a bunch of scripture does nothing for your argument, it just makes your comment confusing.
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin If you find the word of God confusing, I'm sorry. The Mormon teachings about Christ, contradict the Bible at every turn. The Bible does not teach a pre-existence, it does not teach that R spirits or matter always existed, it does not teach that Jesus is literally R brother, or that He the creator of us all, is a brother of Satan, who He created. Grace does not help us get into heaven, it is the complete way into Heaven. Our most righteous acts we ever do, R filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 I'm not going to continue this pointless back and forth. You're last response had some fundamental things about mormons wrong: God created us all, not Jesus. We believe they are separate people. If Satan wasn't made by God/Jesus/whatever you believe, how was he made/came into being? Simply saying he was there is no better than saying a magic leprechaun made him with the help of a cackling witch and 3 well-groomed rabbits.
If you bother responding, please know that I won't.
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin The Bible, as the verses I gave U clearly indicate, teaches Jesus is God, not a god, & that He created all that exists. A real Christian, knows that Jesus Christ is God, & not some sub deity or exalted man, who died so some other exalted man could B "worshipped". Romans 1 teaches that idolators often change God into a man, God is not a man Numbers 23:19 John 4:24 He is Spirit. The hardest verse in the Bible to believe, & 1 no Mormon believes if they acccept Mormonism is Genesis 1:1
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 when you said Jesus is God, what do you realy mean by that? i hope your not saying that Jesus is God the Father. just be clear in your coment, so others wont be confused.
71gk 1 year ago
@71gk The Bible teaches that within the one Spirit Being that is God, there are three persons. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Siamese twins, are two persons that share one human being. Jesus is not the Father. John 1:1-3 Philippians 2:5-11 Hebrews 1:8-12 First John 5:7 Isaiah 43:10-13 and 44:6-8 etc. There is only one God. Jesus is God, The Father is God, the Holy Spirit is God. God is unique, there is none like Him. God cannot properly be defined, there is nothing to compare Him to.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 Now your comment is clear to every body.
71gk 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 well here is a mormon that believes genesis 1:1 and Jesus is God, God the Son who died for all of us so that we can be forgiven of our sins and return to live with him and his literal Heavenly Father one day. saying that he is the Son of God does not lessen him, he is and will always be my Savior and i could not be happy without the sacrifice he gave for all of us.
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 Jesus is not a god, He is the only God, Isaiah 43:11. There is not a verse in the Bible that supports an idea of us existing with God, before "coming to earth" The Bible teaches that God forms the spirit of man inside of him. Genesis 1:1 speaks of a real beginning of all things, except for God. Mormonism teaches there were many "beginnings" before it, and will be many after it. God knowing us, before He creates us, does not mean we know Him, before we exist. Jesus created all John 1:1-3
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 then where did Jesus come from? was there nothing before him?
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 Read John 1:1-14 there was nothing before Jesus. Jesus is God, the only God & Savior Isaiah 43:10,11 everything that physically exists was created by Jesus. No man will ever do anything 2 deserve heaven, but we all do things earning & deserving hell Romans 3:23. Those who enter heaven do so only by the grace of God Romans 6:23. Jesus is the total way 2 heaven John 3:18,36 & 14:6. Mormonism teaches that there never was a real beginning, though this is the 1st thing taught in the Bible.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 lol well an argument like that is the reason so many people are turing to atheism, because its dumb and doesn't fit the laws of science matter doesn't come from nothing it always has a starting place, and yes the LDS faith believes in a beginning we don't focus on the other things that came before because they don't matter for us, what matters is our Heavenly Father and his Son Jesus Christ "Father, not my will but thine be done"
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 Read Hebrews 1:8-12 where the Father calls the Son God, and declares that the Son created the heavens and the Earth. There was a designer, Who invented DNA, seeds, etc. and the designer was not a seed and did not have a body that was already made out of DNA. Romans 1 teaches that idolators like to turn God into a man. The Bible teaches that God is Omnipotent, which means all powerful, and not challengeable by anyone, or anything. God is the source of all power & never received His power
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 There is always a begining, nothing comes from nowhere. He was given his power from his father, if he had rejected his father then he would have been condemned like lucifer was, but he believed in the lords plan and became the way for us to be saved so he was given all that his father has. i am not saying he is a man, but he had to gain a body to fully achieve his mission. And christ is God, God the Son, not God the Father
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 You will not find a single verse in the Bible to support your claims. Jesus always was, is, and will always be God. John 1:1-3,14 Hebrews 1:8-12 Philippians 2:5-12 Colossians 1:15-18 Isaiah 43:1,11 & 44:6-8 etc. Jesus is the Creator of satan, the creator of all things. He is not our elder spirit brother, that idea is total Blasphemy against God. God is not a man Numbers 23:19. The Bible certainly does not in any way suggest that The beginning, was one of many beginnings.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 you can throw all the bible verses you want at me but i know i speak the truth and i have scripture that you don't have, you don't believe to be the word and work of God and that is fine, that is your opinion, but i know it to be true i testify to you of that and i hope we can end the conversation in agreeing to disagree? Friends?
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 U have a right to your opinions, but Jesus declared eternity was at stake, if R beliefs R not grounded in Truth. The very first thing Satan did, when he aproached eve, was to misquote and cause doubt on the word of God. Gen 3:1 His second thing he did was to deny the word of God, and replace it with his own words, promising Eve that she would be a god, if she followed him and disobeyed God. Gen 3:4,5. It is scary to me as a former Mormon to see that this is exactly what Mormonism does.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@carterfamily8903 i too believe eternity is at stake and i know i AM grounded in the truth, you can never convince me otherwise! thats why i said we should just drop it, i know i am right and you know you are right, there is no where to go and nothing to be gained by a continued argument
stntx04 1 year ago
@stntx04 Truth can stand up to careful scrutiny, which is something that Mormonism cannot do. I used to be a Mormon, trying to earn my way into "heaven". We can and do deserve Hell, we can never deserve Heaven. Romans 3:23 & 6:23. Look at page 42 of your Pearl of Great Price & be honest with yourself. Do figures 2 & 4 look like men or women? Look at the descriptions Joseph Smith gave for them. Then if truth is really your goal, do some studying on the egyptian gods Isis, Maat, & Osiris.
carterfamily8903 1 year ago
@pilottim79 Friend, You want to know why we, Christians, follow the Bible, and ONLY the Bible? Well, I could give you HUNDREDS of passages that will say that, but because that would require a good amount of time, let's just think about this one: Galatians 1:8. I know....It's kind of confusing isn't it? Look, Jesus Christ DOES NOT need anyone or any religion to get His message out! He is the LORD and the ONLY and sufficient Savior. We DON'T need Joseph Smith or Mary, Peter or John! Jesus is LORD!
adalbertomodesusa 1 year ago
@adalbertomodesusa That's nice... but Mormons believe more or less the same thing. Joseph Smith was a prophet... he spoke for God, but did not make things up on his own. He translated the Book of Mormon, but he didn't write it. We believe that God speaks through his prophets, not the prophets making stuff up they think God wants us to hear.
Please get some more information before breaking out the caps lock as often as you did there.
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin You said "Mormons believe more or less the same thing" My friend, more or less is NOT enough! You can't almost believe in Christ, you can't almost believe that He is the only way. I don't need to get any more information about anything, because what I know about Jesus and His gospel is in the Bible, the only and sufficient source of truth. Again, Jesus never needed anyone to get His message out. He left us His very own word, the Bible, and that's enough! God bless you.
adalbertomodesusa 1 year ago
@adalbertomodesusa O.K.- you're not open to learning more about God, Jeses, or religion. You're decision... but why are you bothering others about theirs?
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin Who said I'm not open? Look, all we need to know about religion is that it won't work. in the end, you'll find only frustration, disappointment and worst of all, spending the eternity without God, in a place the Bible describes by Jesus Himself as Hell, prepared for Satan and his angels. Jesus said it! He CANNOT change His own word! About bothering...1 Cor. 9:16. It's my OBLIGATION to preach the true gospel of the Lord Jesus. I Can't, and I won't stop preaching the TRUE Gospel!
adalbertomodesusa 1 year ago
@adalbertomodesusa That's fine, preach what you think is true... but could you avoid doing it in the YouTube comments? It really just ticks people off; you're getting no where...
Please don't bother responding. If you do, I won't.
dobermuffin 1 year ago
@dobermuffin How typical.........Ending a conversation like this. When we hear the truth, we usually get a little frustrated, because the truth sometimes hurts us, in a good way. Some people receive it, others reject it. About me not preaching on YouTube, well, that's just not happening. Sorry. Jesus loves you, young man! God bless, and may you hava a encounter with the Lord one day!
adalbertomodesusa 1 year ago
@adalbertomodesusa where in the Bible does it say that you should ONLY read and follow the Bible? This is just your made up doctrine?
pilottim79 1 year ago
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conceil8 2 years ago
Ya I would fall asleep... Try coming to a Apostolic Pentecostal church.. Where the truth is!!!
koreanwutard 2 years ago
why dont they ever say hallelujah?.. i mean i dont in church.. i say amen... but thats a weird thing to say not to say it........ espeacially when hallelujah is literally the same meaning as amen... which means so be it... or may it be true
thats like saying dont say Yeshua... say Jesus
Yeshua is the Hebrew translation and Jesus English.. yet still the same
ArcticWhiteZ 2 years ago
LDS folks do say hallelujah. It is on very special occasions at dedications, an other private events.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
With 24 years being in the church I never once heard that at any event, special or otherwise.
praestant8 2 years ago
That is a sad status of affairs to your lack of knowledge of LDS doctrine. However it is by far the Sunday School teachers to blame for wanting to play it safe than any fault of your own. For example, the hallelujah shout is preformed at dedications. It is also found in church literature and scripture.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Actually my knowledge and experience with things Mormon is exemplary enough to know that the word used was "Hosanna", and not Alleluia. And was done so at the dedication of the Kirkland temple. In more recent times this has been followed by the singing of The Spirit of God. If you are active LDS your lack of historic knowledge is indeed concerning.
praestant8 2 years ago
Why thumbed this down? That is a true statement. The LDS do say hallelujah in very somber occasions.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Like what? Enlighten me with some documented sources. I'm not adverse to learning new things.
praestant8 2 years ago
Agree or not, in LDS culture the word hallelujah is considered too holy to be commonly said. It is reserved for special occasions. Off hand Mo-Tab singing the Hallelujah Chorus every Christmas is one example. I also found this quote, "Jesus is our Lord and Redeemer. At every opportunity we ought to proclaim, Hallelujah! How great Thou art! Elder John K. Carmack of the Seventy
It maybe it is not used as often as you would like, or as often as possible. However, it is still used by the LDS folk
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Well I guess you learn something every day. Interesting.
praestant8 2 years ago 2
That was pretty good. I been a Mormon for over a year and half. I wish they video like this before I joined. It would have make it allot easier.
n15pca 2 years ago
Going to church shouldn't be difficult
Jesus said his yoke is easy and burden is light.
Besides, the Mormon church preaches another gospel. That means they are accursed. Look at Galatians 1:6-9, for example.
johnyjamie 2 years ago
you think thats hard? wow
AmoBolivia66 2 years ago
Mark 9: 38-40
38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
So we are not to condemn other churches.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
Then why is it permissible for Mormonism to condemn other faiths?
praestant8 2 years ago
It is not premissible at all. If someone on youtube has done such you might refer them to one of Gorden B. Hinkley's last conferences last session, or the october 2001 when refering mostly to muslems but other faiths as whole and why we don't condem them.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago
However since the church's founding it pulled the first punch by saying all other faiths are false and an abomination. While Hinckley may have smoothed the waters there are still missionaries running around saying Mormonism is the only one with the truth and the only way to reach eternal glory in the highest degree. It's a problem.
praestant8 2 years ago
360 is the number of degrees in a circle. That number came from the false idea that there are 360 days of a year. That was believed to be the sun's rotation around the earth.
Believing a given doctrine to be false does not automatically equate to condemnation. There is a line from outright evil to simple error.
Bureyeanne 2 years ago