It makes perfect sense. Pull a resistance band and then let it go. What happens? It snaps back to it's original form very quickly. Your not hitting yourself in the face, your trying to hit your opponent in front of you therefore it is helping body to learn how to activate its fast twitch muscles going forward and backwards.
having to pull back your hands at the end of your punch with resistance does work on speed. to extend your punches then pull back fast is gunna give you a sharp snap to your punches. the faster you snap your punches, the quicker they are, especially when you are doing combinations. the faster you pull your hands back, the sooner you can throw that next punch...
@eddy1337 You don't need strength or resistance to do that. It's all about creating good habits when your bringing your hands back to your face, pulling on things isn't going to help you with that.
@Spunkyinternall Just...no. Any resistance band training should be forward momentum and then hands back to your face. Not pull on these cords at shoulder height as fast as you can. You don't seem to grasp the concept that i'm talking about making good habits. When you spar a lot of beginning guys like to drop their hands after punches and the only way to fix that is consistent repetition of the punches and then when your back you have your hands up.
@MrIllcat yes your right indeed. But I think this kinda works differently..it's like drummers using weights on their legs (while drumming) to improve their technique with Dubble bass. after they remove the weight's they go faster. And from shoulder height...is indeed pretty stupid XD...
Maybe the students miss the concept? they just need to spar and get 'smackt in the face' to learn how to bring there hands up :P.
your an Idiot, you cannot train a good chin, but you can improve speed. Are all sprint runners born with it? or did they train hard and work their ass off to increase it......you sir are a tool.
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You are a prize dick head aint you son,if your only as fast as a a corpse no amout of training will make you quicker than Sugar Ray Robinson,no matter how long you train,no matter how hard or clever you train.Yes you can improve and make yourself as quick as YOU can be but NO amount of training will turn a tortoice in a a hare.Its a born thing.
who you never stated any of that before dickface, you just made a bold and retarded statement, its pretty fucking obvious that you cant make say someone 260 lbs punch as fast as say a Manny Pacquiao but you made an idiotic statement saying someone cannot punch faster, I can honestly say I seen guys come in as slow(er) punchers and then with time were punching very god damn fast, your a pretty fucking dumb guy to say the lease, go to any gym and ask a coach if speed can be attained and you'll see
What an ignorant little arsehole you are mate.If you are slow,you will allways be slow,hand speed/speed full stop is a natural born thing,just like being able to hit hard and just like being able to take a shot on the jaw.You can optimise your speed but no matter how hard you train if your slow your slow,end of fucking story you muppet.Your a muppet son,a thicko and a thicko full of shyte to put it mildly.Now shut the fuck up and peddle your nonsence to those that no no fucking better.
Actually you can train a chin. Tony Jaa's first trainer, trains trains his jaw, by tying a rope to the handle of a bucket of cement and lifting it with his teeth. It strengthens the jaw muscles. Also if you continue to strike a bone, it develops cracks that continue to heal thicker and thicker. It's called Wolfe's Law. If you did the cement bucket thing, and smacked your jaw on a regular basis (not hard mind you), there is no reason why most anyone could train their chin.
u can train but it wont be effective cause it wont be that hard cause its structured that way. The chin is a vital point that is had to be trained . But u cah train ur knuckles
Afaik punching with weights is bad because the weights pull your punches to the ground while u try to punch directly to your target, without weights it could happen that your punches could break out and u hit above your target, another point is that there is too much impact on your joints when u stop your punch and pull back for the 2nd one, while holding a weight that your body isn´t made for, thats what i heard about and experienced but maybe it works for some other (sry 4 the bad engl.)
@Silent0Seven because you'll screw your elbows to hell and back. It's fine for endurance work and just working technique as long as your doing the movement slowly and not snapping your elbows. It helps speed but save moving fast for after you put the weights down, not while your using the weight.
Globakizator punching with weights is not bad, but it doesnt help really. Anything over 3 pounds is bad, you risk damaging the shoulder, hyperextending the elbow and it can actually impair your speed. The reason they do it the way they do is because you actually use the biceps and lats more than the triceps in a punch so they are increasing their speed in the biceps and lats. The best way to increase speed is practice technique withought weights.
I mean tension should work to another direction if they want to increase strength or it is better to lift your self up.But on this video it looks like they want to increase speed of strike or durability.
Strength, punching speed and power are all three different things. For strength just lifting weights works. This helps their endurance which adds to their speed when they fatigue later in a fight. It doesnt directly effect their speed or power.
this is just training them to pull their punches back, the resistance needs to be the other way so they develop the muscles that launch their fists forward
to all fighters... If your looking for exercises to increase explosive strength and power make sure that whatever the exercise you let go of the weight. by hanging on to the weight you will become slower. This is because your antagonist muscles are activating to stop your arm being ripped out of your socket.. you should do no more than 3 sets 5 reps 30%-50% of your 1rm
It would also be speed training, because if you can hit faster with that resistance, you would even hit faster without that extra resistance, so I think its both.
i think they are training the pulling power after throwing punches so the arm can return to guarding position fast.. whether it works im nt too sure also =)
Actually this type of training does the opposite, it slows muscle receptors down. The correct way to do this is with the same equipment but to fire each shot as a deliberate mental motion from a motor set relaxed position. This allows the nerves to fire a fast twich via Actin release to the metachondia. The way this clip shows merely fatigues the receptors.
Thus sending the wrong signals to the brain as it trys to creates neural pathways to store this info on unfortunately leaving it thinking large amounts of Myosin and pyruvic acids are involed in the motion. God bless.
This is awesome for punching speed, you build more muscle from the pulling the the actually pushing (more on the - then the +) but both this and 3-5 lb dumbells should be used
str8 up fast jabs here, my own program, 5 kg dunbells. Jab with them for 5 min do 3 sets over and over,keep arms up. Thats a bit of help to increase majour speed and strength.
no it isnt in fact its the opposite of what you should do.Keep reps under 5,imagine the impession of explosiveness and do plyo pressups,med ball throws and do some contrast method punching on bag,extra light and heavy gloves.However speed alone is no good without timing,distancing,rhytym,technique.I do have degree in biomechanics and physiology.
timing is no good with out reaction speed. but are close at hand.
these are for just speed of muscle training. not to say your wrong cause if you have the degree who can argue. but no one would like a 5 hit combo to the chin
READ THIS SLOWLY,never punch with a dumbell it makes you deccelerate at end and may damage elbow joint .Also anything over a few reps brings endurance not speed or power.5 mins?,where are you getting your info.
yes you got me! my undergradute degree of human performance anatomy and physiology..oh yeah and my masters thesis went by with that word eccentric not touched!? shit!
love to hear you analysis of the eccentric movement here..and please please take the time to actually think about ur answer! sick of all these internet educated experts *roll eyes* ps while ur at it you can explain the original post that i was commenting on..
Well this work out is being performed by figthers in a gym with real ring experience. However if you do have a degree im intrested in developing faster punches. Since your calling this method a waste of time perhaps you can recommend a way thats actually effective.
ive already posted this info.Its better if you research this area yourself than rely on the views of anonymous posters.Remember the punchis extremely fast and force has not enough time to reach its maximum
Channantha is right on the money. If u bothered to think about what he is rambling about he is referring to neuromuscular adaptations from this specific motor pattern. The resistance bands help to train both intermuscular and intramuscular coordination. The body will find the most efficient recruitment of agaonist, antagonist, stabilizers, and neutralizers. Even more importantly the number, pattern, and rate encoding will be augmented.
Channantha is right on the money. If u bothered to think about what he is rambling about he is referring to neuromuscular adaptations from this specific motor pattern. The resistance bands help to train both intermuscular and intramuscular coordination. The body will find the most efficient recruitment of agaonist, antagonist, stabilizers, and neutralizers. Even more importantly the number, pattern, and rate encoding will be augmented.
rubber bands are poor for developing explosiveness by themselves.Their resistance increases near end of punch which is opposite of an unloaded punch.plyometric push ups,med ball pushes and low rep full power punches on bag are best.
like running downhill, I know,but theyre still working endurance not speed or else theyd just be doing a few reps with very long rests.never saw any research on overspeed training for punching though only sprinting.
this doesnt train speed,it trains endurance of muscles which retract arm.amazing how ignorant of kinesiology and sports physiology the commenters are.
Drink milk before u do that. It'll give u alot of good nutrition for your muscles. Also strengthen ur tendon. I do that the same thing but with a belt.
i think it build resistance in the muscle causes your muscles trying to go faster from the commands of the brains ass the body get use to the resistance they add mor when the resistance is gone the punch got so use to the resistance the arm is fooled the the bands are sill on and the punch will be quick and fierce
It makes perfect sense. Pull a resistance band and then let it go. What happens? It snaps back to it's original form very quickly. Your not hitting yourself in the face, your trying to hit your opponent in front of you therefore it is helping body to learn how to activate its fast twitch muscles going forward and backwards.
cmdouglas1 1 year ago
Another teqnique I tried is gettn a tredmil with 2 5lb weights n shadowboxing for bout 15 20 mins
MrBuddman420 1 year ago
I saw this video about 1 1/2 month ago n tried this teqnique I see n notice improvments thanks for tips
MrBuddman420 1 year ago
having to pull back your hands at the end of your punch with resistance does work on speed. to extend your punches then pull back fast is gunna give you a sharp snap to your punches. the faster you snap your punches, the quicker they are, especially when you are doing combinations. the faster you pull your hands back, the sooner you can throw that next punch...
r1h444 1 year ago
Hahah love how the Asian guys are just joking around while the white guy is trying his hardest to keep up.
KyockLee123 1 year ago
this would work if they turned around
hazardroll1 1 year ago
Lol this video makes no sense, since when is punching a pulling motion?
MrIllcat 1 year ago 3
@MrIllcat since you have to pull your hands back in guard after punching
eddy1337 1 year ago
@eddy1337 You don't need strength or resistance to do that. It's all about creating good habits when your bringing your hands back to your face, pulling on things isn't going to help you with that.
MrIllcat 1 year ago
@MrIllcat It's actually pretty important to bring your hand (after the punch) as quick as possible back to your face to cover up and defend.
you have to pull your punches.
Spunkyinternall 1 year ago
@Spunkyinternall Just...no. Any resistance band training should be forward momentum and then hands back to your face. Not pull on these cords at shoulder height as fast as you can. You don't seem to grasp the concept that i'm talking about making good habits. When you spar a lot of beginning guys like to drop their hands after punches and the only way to fix that is consistent repetition of the punches and then when your back you have your hands up.
MrIllcat 1 year ago
@MrIllcat yes your right indeed. But I think this kinda works differently..it's like drummers using weights on their legs (while drumming) to improve their technique with Dubble bass. after they remove the weight's they go faster. And from shoulder height...is indeed pretty stupid XD...
Maybe the students miss the concept? they just need to spar and get 'smackt in the face' to learn how to bring there hands up :P.
Spunkyinternall 1 year ago
4 seconds of full speed punching... after that you are training stamina and not speed.
hentajus 2 years ago
i think u r wrong, u should do the exercise from other way, turn 180o and then the exercise is right.
bloodcorer 2 years ago
who actually needs fists anyway use ya fucking head or elbow or knee like me do more damage =D
benjaminlard 2 years ago
replay 313 has been talking shit on several boxing videos ive looked at, whats the big deal, hes not that impressive.
jmotyl87 2 years ago
hahahaha
MattUrsua 2 years ago
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hahah your all shit... step into the ring i will murder you all?? think im all talk over the net?
check my videos for yourself
replay313 2 years ago
pretty impresive, seen another vid on speed training i think it's really cool youtube(dot)com/watch?v=YRM1R5QBZnk&feature=related
ma09k 3 years ago
i agree ur born with speed but u can make yourself even faster to be a more of a nut
PELzFacToR 3 years ago
nobody is born with speed its acquired through dedication and hardwork..
allpinoyballer37 3 years ago
Nonsence,many more athletes would win the 100 meter sprints from different countries if that was the case.
70Mack 3 years ago
You cannot train speed just like you cannot train chin.You either got it or you aint.
70Mack 3 years ago
bullshit
beuou 3 years ago 2
....as answer to previous comment
beuou 3 years ago 2
Yeah your full of it
70Mack 3 years ago
your an Idiot, you cannot train a good chin, but you can improve speed. Are all sprint runners born with it? or did they train hard and work their ass off to increase it......you sir are a tool.
kdude1000 3 years ago
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You are a prize dick head aint you son,if your only as fast as a a corpse no amout of training will make you quicker than Sugar Ray Robinson,no matter how long you train,no matter how hard or clever you train.Yes you can improve and make yourself as quick as YOU can be but NO amount of training will turn a tortoice in a a hare.Its a born thing.
70Mack 3 years ago
who you never stated any of that before dickface, you just made a bold and retarded statement, its pretty fucking obvious that you cant make say someone 260 lbs punch as fast as say a Manny Pacquiao but you made an idiotic statement saying someone cannot punch faster, I can honestly say I seen guys come in as slow(er) punchers and then with time were punching very god damn fast, your a pretty fucking dumb guy to say the lease, go to any gym and ask a coach if speed can be attained and you'll see
kdude1000 3 years ago
What an ignorant little arsehole you are mate.If you are slow,you will allways be slow,hand speed/speed full stop is a natural born thing,just like being able to hit hard and just like being able to take a shot on the jaw.You can optimise your speed but no matter how hard you train if your slow your slow,end of fucking story you muppet.Your a muppet son,a thicko and a thicko full of shyte to put it mildly.Now shut the fuck up and peddle your nonsence to those that no no fucking better.
70Mack 3 years ago
hes probably not your mate or your son
fragmcgee 3 years ago
True,no retards in my family.
70Mack 3 years ago
Actually you can train a chin. Tony Jaa's first trainer, trains trains his jaw, by tying a rope to the handle of a bucket of cement and lifting it with his teeth. It strengthens the jaw muscles. Also if you continue to strike a bone, it develops cracks that continue to heal thicker and thicker. It's called Wolfe's Law. If you did the cement bucket thing, and smacked your jaw on a regular basis (not hard mind you), there is no reason why most anyone could train their chin.
DOUGDIAMOND29 2 years ago
u can train but it wont be effective cause it wont be that hard cause its structured that way. The chin is a vital point that is had to be trained . But u cah train ur knuckles
MechPhantom 2 years ago
so is this exercise good or bad?
Mike07P 3 years ago
Afaik punching with weights is bad because the weights pull your punches to the ground while u try to punch directly to your target, without weights it could happen that your punches could break out and u hit above your target, another point is that there is too much impact on your joints when u stop your punch and pull back for the 2nd one, while holding a weight that your body isn´t made for, thats what i heard about and experienced but maybe it works for some other (sry 4 the bad engl.)
jinxoso 3 years ago
They should turn around.Punch speed is better to train with weights.
Globalizator1 3 years ago 2
no thats bad for u
never punch with weights
cain0104 3 years ago 2
why not? bruce lee did it alot
pokiulai 3 years ago
@cain0104 how
zamorachristian1 1 year ago
@cain0104 Why not punch with weights?
Silent0Seven 9 months ago
@Silent0Seven because you'll screw your elbows to hell and back. It's fine for endurance work and just working technique as long as your doing the movement slowly and not snapping your elbows. It helps speed but save moving fast for after you put the weights down, not while your using the weight.
warriorfire8103 4 months ago
Globakizator punching with weights is not bad, but it doesnt help really. Anything over 3 pounds is bad, you risk damaging the shoulder, hyperextending the elbow and it can actually impair your speed. The reason they do it the way they do is because you actually use the biceps and lats more than the triceps in a punch so they are increasing their speed in the biceps and lats. The best way to increase speed is practice technique withought weights.
TripleNipple3 3 years ago
I mean tension should work to another direction if they want to increase strength or it is better to lift your self up.But on this video it looks like they want to increase speed of strike or durability.
Globalizator1 3 years ago
Strength, punching speed and power are all three different things. For strength just lifting weights works. This helps their endurance which adds to their speed when they fatigue later in a fight. It doesnt directly effect their speed or power.
TripleNipple3 3 years ago
this is just training them to pull their punches back, the resistance needs to be the other way so they develop the muscles that launch their fists forward
2006chrissy 3 years ago
u gyes sound like native indians
AI3LBJ 3 years ago
funny; sounds like a djungle!
connymat 3 years ago
this is so dumb
yourhood 3 years ago
arnt you supose to be facing the other way o0
krunked666 3 years ago
thats what i thought too
wagnails 3 years ago
this is to train their speed for pulling back after the punch
againstThebrutality 3 years ago 2
to all fighters... If your looking for exercises to increase explosive strength and power make sure that whatever the exercise you let go of the weight. by hanging on to the weight you will become slower. This is because your antagonist muscles are activating to stop your arm being ripped out of your socket.. you should do no more than 3 sets 5 reps 30%-50% of your 1rm
JimmyAust 3 years ago
It sounds like you know what you are talking about, but I dont understand what you mean?
can you make it more clear?
luxenfux 3 years ago
if they turned 180 degrees and punched that direction they would have resistance and it would be speed training! :)
Zoast 3 years ago
nah mate they would only train their strength
Vyngre 3 years ago
It would also be speed training, because if you can hit faster with that resistance, you would even hit faster without that extra resistance, so I think its both.
Zoast 3 years ago
cool
christwarrior56 3 years ago
Did I heard "gochilla"
kapache21 3 years ago
i dont understand why they are working on pulling on the bands instead of having the opposite end behind you so you can work on the pushing.
jaysakong 4 years ago
may for oposite efeckt? pushing is for fast punch pulling for fast retreat if you can do it fast and complet your next punch will be more effective
5hancross 3 years ago
y were ppl yodelling? lol
M0h4mm0dS1dd3k 4 years ago
retard,
5hancross 3 years ago
i think they are training the pulling power after throwing punches so the arm can return to guarding position fast.. whether it works im nt too sure also =)
junliang88 4 years ago
and if you dont return your arm enough then your next punch wont be efective, this is for speed punch
5hancross 3 years ago
Actually this type of training does the opposite, it slows muscle receptors down. The correct way to do this is with the same equipment but to fire each shot as a deliberate mental motion from a motor set relaxed position. This allows the nerves to fire a fast twich via Actin release to the metachondia. The way this clip shows merely fatigues the receptors.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
Thus sending the wrong signals to the brain as it trys to creates neural pathways to store this info on unfortunately leaving it thinking large amounts of Myosin and pyruvic acids are involed in the motion. God bless.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
your basic idea is correct but physiological theory incorrect.Go read a textbook
billysue2 4 years ago
agree about mental intention of speed but direction of resistance is wrong.metachondia?you mean mitochondria.
billysue2 4 years ago
Sorry about my dyslexia it does do a number on from time to time.
jeetkunejimi 4 years ago
nice training, but they sounded like a bunch of retards!
rosher22 4 years ago
it's normaly for efective brathing be more tolerant
5hancross 3 years ago
This is awesome for punching speed, you build more muscle from the pulling the the actually pushing (more on the - then the +) but both this and 3-5 lb dumbells should be used
FBman42 4 years ago
str8 up fast jabs here, my own program, 5 kg dunbells. Jab with them for 5 min do 3 sets over and over,keep arms up. Thats a bit of help to increase majour speed and strength.
ardz07 4 years ago
no it isnt in fact its the opposite of what you should do.Keep reps under 5,imagine the impession of explosiveness and do plyo pressups,med ball throws and do some contrast method punching on bag,extra light and heavy gloves.However speed alone is no good without timing,distancing,rhytym,technique.I do have degree in biomechanics and physiology.
billysue2 4 years ago
timing is no good with out reaction speed. but are close at hand.
these are for just speed of muscle training. not to say your wrong cause if you have the degree who can argue. but no one would like a 5 hit combo to the chin
skwerl23 4 years ago
LOL YOU SOUND LIKE IT TOOO
ardz07 4 years ago
READ THIS SLOWLY,never punch with a dumbell it makes you deccelerate at end and may damage elbow joint .Also anything over a few reps brings endurance not speed or power.5 mins?,where are you getting your info.
billysue2 4 years ago
Complete waste of time!! learn some basic physiology channantha! wow!
danboy2000 4 years ago
in your physiology they must of skipped eccentric contraction. *rolls eyes* GREAT VIDEO!
ivan858 4 years ago
yes you got me! my undergradute degree of human performance anatomy and physiology..oh yeah and my masters thesis went by with that word eccentric not touched!? shit!
love to hear you analysis of the eccentric movement here..and please please take the time to actually think about ur answer! sick of all these internet educated experts *roll eyes* ps while ur at it you can explain the original post that i was commenting on..
danboy2000 4 years ago
Well this work out is being performed by figthers in a gym with real ring experience. However if you do have a degree im intrested in developing faster punches. Since your calling this method a waste of time perhaps you can recommend a way thats actually effective.
heywhatsup65 4 years ago
ive already posted this info.Its better if you research this area yourself than rely on the views of anonymous posters.Remember the punchis extremely fast and force has not enough time to reach its maximum
billysue2 4 years ago
Channantha is right on the money. If u bothered to think about what he is rambling about he is referring to neuromuscular adaptations from this specific motor pattern. The resistance bands help to train both intermuscular and intramuscular coordination. The body will find the most efficient recruitment of agaonist, antagonist, stabilizers, and neutralizers. Even more importantly the number, pattern, and rate encoding will be augmented.
ivan858 4 years ago
Channantha is right on the money. If u bothered to think about what he is rambling about he is referring to neuromuscular adaptations from this specific motor pattern. The resistance bands help to train both intermuscular and intramuscular coordination. The body will find the most efficient recruitment of agaonist, antagonist, stabilizers, and neutralizers. Even more importantly the number, pattern, and rate encoding will be augmented.
ivan858 4 years ago
rubber bands are poor for developing explosiveness by themselves.Their resistance increases near end of punch which is opposite of an unloaded punch.plyometric push ups,med ball pushes and low rep full power punches on bag are best.
billysue2 4 years ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a rehab video for fighters? Assuming the fighters are injured this is probably the best exercise for them.
ivan858 4 years ago
It is not "resistance" traing it is "assistance" training. Do a google search for "overspeed"
bbbbbbblob 3 years ago
like running downhill, I know,but theyre still working endurance not speed or else theyd just be doing a few reps with very long rests.never saw any research on overspeed training for punching though only sprinting.
billysue2 3 years ago
It can be done for punching. but i agree these guys are not doing it very well.
bbbbbbblob 3 years ago
this doesnt train speed,it trains endurance of muscles which retract arm.amazing how ignorant of kinesiology and sports physiology the commenters are.
billysue2 4 years ago
ops... the title of clip is wrong ^^ so... -"-
5hancross 3 years ago
Drink milk before u do that. It'll give u alot of good nutrition for your muscles. Also strengthen ur tendon. I do that the same thing but with a belt.
Liemsta 4 years ago
i think it build resistance in the muscle causes your muscles trying to go faster from the commands of the brains ass the body get use to the resistance they add mor when the resistance is gone the punch got so use to the resistance the arm is fooled the the bands are sill on and the punch will be quick and fierce
channantha 4 years ago
How does it work?
xlxdarkxlx 4 years ago
How does it work?
JammyTom 4 years ago