Africa Uncovered- Right and Wrong - 5 Aug 08 - Part 2

[reasontobe999]

Africas so pretty, everythings so clean and phresh and oh so fly.

[Civitatuccillo]

Soon, USA will be stopping all aid to the sub. The Negroid herds will then begin to decline in numbers, back to what Darwin's science has stated.

The Caucasian liberals in USA, artifically interfered with Darwins proofs, that a Negroid should be left to its own devices.

AIDS medicine, endless Christian missionaries, world bank, United Nations, artificially interfering with a natural development of the sub negroid has failed

long live AWB and ET

[KCSHIT]

@Civitatuccillo who wants your Aid and AIDS ? uh let me give you a lesson do you know who made HIV ? wiki helps uneducated people like you go and learn history first... speaking of USA i live in USA and i pay tax every other week.. don't be shocked i run my own business.. now go and suck.. tea party ass... you sick person

[inferno0020]

@Civitatuccillo

 troll

[Civitatuccillo]

the Negroid, obama is half White. His MOTHER was a Caucasian and Obama was Raised by his Caucasian Grandparents. Obama has nothing in common with the Negroids in America. Obama is the privileged Negroid that has spent all his life in Caucasian world.

With out USA, the Negroids in Africa would be mostly Dead due to AIDS, River Blindness, Worms,

but, Such is the nature of the Negroid

The Negroid acts according to its Nature. Negroids need the constant watch of Caucasians so they don't die

[steveakfr]

@Civitatuccillo Well, well, well, now look here, when it suits you Obama is half white, but then all other mixed race people are blacks. Ah ah ah, you make me laugh whitey.

[KCSHIT]

@Civitatuccillo dirty white trash... can't you educate your self before you open your crack-head mouth ? am glad what south Africa is doing ... now is the time to show you what your grand racist parents have done to blacks... be a man don't cry.... black men never cries.... speaking about race my mom is black and my dad is white yet i hate to see people like you... i wish i should spit your dirty face right now...

[mujibatt]

If the blacks had been educated and treated fairly South Africa would be in a totally different position that it finds itself in today.

[steveakfr]

@mujibatt Bless you! That is absolutely right

[steveakfr]

I regret that people are hurt in this proceedings. However, as I suppose most of white people feel the pain of their fellow whites, you can imagine how the african immigrants feel when they are persecuted and accusing them of stealing white people's jobs and homes.

The difference is that africans in europes come with a visa, and white never knocked to enter africa, those africaners have been not so long ago persecuting and killing africans. Now they danse to their own music

[kahua33]

@steveakfr sad to say this when we come we come with issues when whites come they come with money that the different. i been to ghana there no whites running thing's but the police would stop ppl on the side of the road asking for money for what. the same go for nigeria........ the should have gave the blacks the same rights as whites but not in goverment. if that would have happen a long time ago south africa would't be turning into a third world country.

[steveakfr]

@kahua33 You've got a point there, but corruption is not specific to Africa, there's corruption everywhere even in western countries, except they hide it quite well. They've been cases of corrupt Police in the UK, in France, and in USA only the ones that I know of, Africa still have much to do to get it right, but please leave it to Africa to handle. Blacks or Africans in Europe are reminded to go back to Africa where they belong all the time by while people even those who've been here very long

[kahua33]

@steveakfr you right my brother there crruption everywhere but not like africa. So please tell me about the nigerian and the ghanian who business are being burn to the ground. by their south african brother and sisters.Africa need the white man just like the white man need africa. When you point a finger at someone there 3 pointing back at you. Please a bitter heart get you no where just look where it gotten our white south african brother and sister.don't let the same happen to us

[steveakfr]

@kahua33 I'm not saying that legitimate white man who's worked and earned their dues should be discriminated against, but those who obtained the land by force in the force place and killed millions in the process shouldn't be looked with pity, westerners say the same for illegal immigrants from poor countries.

[BushChenney08]

Africa is full of AIDS.

[Bozewani]

Lol.... Eugene Terre' Blanche reminds me of the Boer War Afrikaners... Glad you are dead... Another nail in the coffin for apartheid...

[flyguyinmotion]

I don't beleive it's all racial. I live in a neighborhood that is completely integrated. I don't even have an idea what the racial mix is. We get along wonderfully ! All my neighbors are good people. The common denominator is, we all have money. It's that simple. People with money don't have problems with each other over racial issues. Amazing, huh ?

[Civitatuccillo]

We in USA have the same problem with our Negroids. Crime , rape, murder is sky rocketing in every city, area of US where negroids have displaced Europeans.

Many European Americans have moved to "Gated communities" if they can afford it.

 Or, many support thugs that will keep European American neighborhoods safe from Negroid crime.

For some reason. negroids are just not able to live in civilized society USA has done everything under the sun to help the negroid but they just can't "evolve"

Sad

[MrRedFredSaid]

@Civitatuccillo - You have a fetish for the word Negroid. Get over it.

[chookization]

@Civitatuccillo You sprouting your bullshit here too??? AWB is dead

[chookization]

@Civitatuccillo Sorry youre sad!! From what I have seen on your other post on other vids you are a delusional basketcase.

I find it strange that you do not answer any of my posts directed at you, is that coz I've proven you to be a total NUTTER too many times. You should be locked up. (as long as you got health insurance) Go live in Orania now you slimy harour rat!!

[chookization]

@Civitatuccillo Or better still, jump into your little spaceship and fly away to the place you won't tell us about.

[steveakfr]

@Civitatuccillo You uneducated american! in what way USA has done anything for Africa? Have you even been out of you stupid cocoon? Go educate yourself and then we can discuss. You appear to be completely ignorant of reality and real history. You probably suffer from "negrophobia", which could be translated as unjustified fear of dark people. What do you know, the USA is now governed by and African? and why because he was given good education and grew up in the right conditions.

[steveakfr]

@Civitatuccillo Go figure why the people whites in South Africa who can't afford education are going to turn into in a few generation, wait and see. Then we'll talk again.

[makheyi]

We need to take our land back!!!

[Mudug2006]

There is only 5 million Whites in South Africa, 5 million Asians and 40 million Blacks. Why is it all we here from that is complaining too much, and also trying to get more then they deserve are the whites in South Africa??

Hello??? Did you forget how you came to S.Africa?I mean you didn't come out of the Bushes, you came on boats, and settled forcefully in S.Africa, stole lands, and now after aparthied is destroyed, and a rightful Black Leader is the president, you crying for yesterday? lol

[Cypha1]

this whites really think they are indigenous afrcans  hahhahahahhahahahah the best joke yet

[jonnham]

To many dang on problems. They'll never get all this stuff settled. No matter what we may belive. THe only way we'll ever have peace on this earth is when we start to take each others interest first. I know that won't happen but whatever

[jujster]

all i hear is whites that , blacks that; but don't we breathe the same air and wen cut dont we all bleed red blood!!! only cowards cant with stand being around different people and feel less in control,,,,it is sad

[bedalz]

fuck all of you whites get the fuck out of my africa and go to wherever you came from. you broght all this pronlems to african ppl if it wasn/t for you there wouldn't be all this problem so get the fuck out ! you distroyed africa for 400 years enogh a;redy bitch, If I see any of you in ethiopia I will burn you!

[ANTIRACIST2012]

"fuck all of you whites "

That is a racist comment, filled with stupidity,blame, and hate.

The world needs to stop being racist, and stop looking at people for the colour of their skin. Its called INDIVIDUALISM. You focus on skin colour and place blame on others, simply because they have the same skin colour as the people who have commited atrocities,that you biasedly focus upon. Atrocities are committed by people of every skin tone, so why be biased?

[bedalz]

@ANTIRACIST2012 what are you talking about like it is a past thing the white ppl has been commiting crims ,and all I am saying is they need to be stoped !

[ANTIRACIST2012]

Your still unable to understand my comment. Many people of ALL colours commit horrible crimes, and your vengence and discimination towards your generalized attitude also needs to be stopped. Your sayiong you want to burn people because they have white skin, and in my books thats utter racism and you are no better for it. You want to play the blame game and base it off sin colour, well sorry, but I blame anyone with a monster attitude, yours included. " wrongs do not make a right!

[bedalz]

yes I agree with you when you said worongs don't make a right, but it is hard to forgive and not generalize when bad things has been done to you or your loved ones,walk in my shoe a mile then you could talk to me of not generalizing besed on a skin of color. thank you

[ANTIRACIST2012]

I understand that its a natural human reaction to generalize and its easy to give into hatred and be prejudice aswell. I come from a multi cultural background. Yet coming from multi cultural background has also made it, so I would not blame over skin colour. In Canada, if you have white skin, and live near a native reserve, you will definately experience unwarranted hatred and attacks. I say unwarranted because the people being attacked usually have nothing to do and are against past oppression.

[ANTIRACIST2012]

continued...

Thankyou for hearing my point, and yes I have been attacked, over my skin colour, so we can talk about this. I have worked and lived around people from many cultures here, and we all deal with racism in the world, even people with white skin. Sure Africa has had its problems, I agree, but I am not letting race make the vote for every individual. We need to work together in order to take the power away from the corporations and warlords, who are responsible for people fighting.

[ANTIRACIST2012]

Also you need to deprogram your way of thinking. Segregating and placing blame over skin colour is total bs. Your just focusing towards atrocities commited by people who happen to have white skin. Try looking at the entire planet when placing blame, I can find an equal amount of corruption, and atrocity from humans of every colour of skin. Oh but you want to play the game of segregation and comparison don't you? Well I don't play that game becase its part of the problem.

[ANTIRACIST2012]

"all I am saying is they need to be stoped ! "

Its the corporate rulers and warlords that you should be blaming, and sorry to break it to you, but they come in all colours of skin, not just white skin.

[ANTIRACIST2012]

"If I see any of you in ethiopia I will burn you! "

Do you not have a concience? Do you think 2 wrongs make a right? Do you actually think anyone truely owns the planet? Corporate world leaders and war lords are responsible, and you are buying into the division and destruction of humanity. So tell me bedalz, if your father or mother kill someone, should you be blamed? Should everyone that shares their skin colour be blamed?

[UShistoryX2]

What does it mean to be Afrikaner? To be South African? To be American? Australian? Dutch? Globalization and multiculturalism are distorting humanity's very sense of self, culture and nationhood, one is merely a person, a worker. A nation is merely a geographic location where whatever type of person or worker can be... its Orwellian and horrid.

[Amalgamaite]

ZUMA is absolutely right! White South Africans got the skills baby! Dont throw that away! White south africans are the ones who've been running the show for 350 years! THEY GOT EXPERIENCE! I would use them all over society! The Black South Africans are stupid. Theyve been served a society, a country, an economy with institutions intact ON A SILVER PLATTER! They dont have to do nothing BUT MANAGE IT. Use the WHite people AND the COLOREDS. Those are the most knowledgable in their society.

[ANTIRACIST2012]

"The Black South Africans are stupid. "

Why generalize by skin tone and make comments that segregate, if you want a real amalgamation?

People should no longer be seperated into catagories based off of a phentype.

[1388dimevader]

africans killing africans looks the same to me in america

[albertaforalbertans]

the AWB is pretty original. I never thought I see a neo nazi group in africa.

[nzingamina]

Welcome to ALDUMBJEERA.

WHERE Arabs UNCOVER Africa.

Sounds like the 19th century of EUROPE's DISCOVERY of Africa.

Cant wait for the CHINESE to REVEAL Africa.

AMAZING, how everyone THAT is NOT African is DISCOVERING or UNCOVERING Africa.

[vladimir998]

Well, it's not like the black natives have done much with the place in the last 300 or 400 years.

[nzingamina]

Of course, you know this cause you are over 400 years old...and not African...lol.

[NaaAdjoa]

Yeah you are right. Black natives in Africa didn't do much in their own countries. Hmm, MAYBE because during that time, either we were working hard to build North American and South American cities, or were under colonial rule in our homeland, in our own African countries by British, Dutch, French and Portuguese colonialists. So yeah, there wasn't really time or opportunity to do anything with the place.

[SpartyV16]

@NaaAdjoa The negroes have ruled in Haiti for over 200 years and it's nothing but a cesspool of murder and rape. 200 years is plenty of time to develop a nation. ROFL what kind of time frame do you need? 1000, 10,000, 1 milion years? lolol

[IndividualAutonomy]

Haiti has been kept backward by the West more than most nations. That is not the case in SA or Zimb but in Haiti it is.

[BushChenney08]

@IndividualAutonomy

White people have done nothing but bring wealth and technology to blacks.

It is not the fault of the white man that the black nations are still savage.

We can only show them the door to civilization, it is them who must walk through it.

[1388dimevader]

well when you make a show called africans uncovering africa i'd like to see it!!but would it be any different than this?you talk about the europeans and what they do,but look at what you have done to your own people RWANADA,CONGO,SUDAN=GEONOCIDE did the europeans do all that to your people

[nzingamina]

That show already exists...dumbass. You must be one of those typical white people that President Obama referred to....lol.

[nzingamina]

Yawn.....no one cares what you think racist troll.

[Civitatuccillo]

All Whites need to Get a Weapon, Learn How to Us it and Don't be Afraid to Defend your Family, Wife, House.

[suspendedb4]

racist

[suspendedb4]

cause u like white cocks

[str34twizeII]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hahaha very funny just as funny as awb

tool grow up ffs

[suspendedb4]

another racist

[suspendedb4]

go fuck ur self

[sguardian870]

I dont know how these white people could claim it thier land when they killed the blacks to get there any ways makes no sense

[geldenhuys1968]

Go AWB GO !!!!!!!!!!!! Get it right this time.

[Emyousmusa]

Colonializism is a fact, in the purpose of the policies of Europe at that time, things happened in that era, that deprived people who where there in the begining, and they found themself to be deprived by the british in a sense, but either way people have to work with each other.

[knightdrako]

Ah yes Jacob Zuma the guy who believes you can get rid of aids by taking a shower.

[rigolissimo]

Went to SA last year. What surprized me was to total disappearance of Afrikaans from public roadsigns, airports, the lack of TV channels in Afrikaans in the hotels, etc. I really fear Afrikaans will disappear and English will replace it. No to mention the physical disappearance of whites (mostly due to emigration and low birth rate) from SA.

[SAPride14]

The Terre blanche family grave yard will be removed and more housing facilities will be build in those lands..Juts as the same as their bullish pink parents that ran over our black great parents in those farms. Fuck Terre blanche and his parents in our mother land..

[Maanslang]

Ons gaan jou ook kry! SAPride wat 'n kak naam jy is seker 'n moffie!

[dudemantwo]

I say South Africa has become a Third World nation...

[sguardian870]

it a unitied culture if ur gooing to live with africans then u need to adapt to their culture when i go to holland i dont speak english and do what ever i want so why should they

[Pinard7]

What you forget is that the Boers ARE Africans & they have even developed a dialect of the African language which was shaped in the Cape & is still the lingua franca of much of the region. The Boers developed into a distinct African culture LONG before they met up with the local Bantus during around 1777 as a process of trekking inland & away from the authoritarian VOC which ran the Cape.

[sguardian870]

You say every1 speaks it dont you mean every european boer speaks it. And how can an incoming group impose their language without oppressing. And i dont get what u mean by they are african, they came from europe and they dont walk on water either. So dot act like they are some african group that was here since the dawn of time does not make sense. And thxx to the EU all of africa has got to unite so many black cultures not to mention history is being lost bcos they have to move 4ward.

[Pinard7]

No. I did not say that everyone speaks it but it is a documented fact that Afrikaans is the lingua franca of much of the region particularly in the Cape region / southern Namibia & western Botswana as Afrikaans is spoken by the Griquas / other mixed race people & by lots of Khoisan people as well. No. The Boers NEVER "imposed" their language because they simply ADOPTED the Afrikaans language which developed in the Cape initially by the Asian slave force.

[Pinard7]

No. The Boers could not have possibly come from Europe because THERE WERE NO Boers in Europe until they developed on African soil out of the diverse groups that the VOC dumped at the Cape as servants. Therefore the Boers are an African group because they developed in Africa & not in Europe were there were never any Boer people because the various ancestors of the Boers were German / Frisian / Danish / French / Dutch / Indian / Malay / Khoi ect. No group has been there since the dawn of time.

[Pinard7]

Well the EU will eventually unite with the AU & the other major foreign political blocs to form a Global totalitarian regime which will make past regimes looks like a walk in the park.

[sguardian870]

So i dont see why the boers if they are truely african, should want to exempt themselves from the culture and maybe as a so called african you ahvent noticed but that is typical european behaviour and thinking they are superior. So if ur going to be african, dont just enjoy our resources and get rich feel our pain.Something the whites in S.african region dont seem to ever feel.

[Pinard7]

This is what you are forgetting: the Boers are an INDEPENDENT African culture in the same way that the Berbers are an independent African culture estranged from their Old European roots. No. this is not about being "superior" just about DEFENDING their culture from the natural oppressive inertia of the macro State based dispensation.

[Pinard7]

This point makes absolutely no sense because if you will recall the Boers that emerged on African soil ABANDONED the various languages they spoke [ ie: Frankonish / Dents / French / Provencal / German etc. ] & ADOPTED the Afrikaans language that developed on African soil to the point of creating their own dialect. Stemming from Eastern Border Afrikaans. Afrikaans was not "imposed" as it SPRANG up due to the development of a lingua franca among the diverse & various peoples at the Cape.

[whiteworldreturns2]

"Good evening lady, is it possible to see your license and registration"

That guy has been watching too many movies.

[Rooigrond]

White is white and black is black, and true words have been spoken by Max. Truly he is a bastard, may he pay dearly for exalting black above white. Max this one is for you. Jy is, en sal maar altyd n KAFFERBOETIE wees. Wanneer die boer weer oor homself heers, moetnie aan sy deur klop, want die prys vir veraaiers is die dood!

[Pinard7]

The Boers are indeed a tribe -as Du Preez ascribe to White Afrikaners in general- & are indigenous to Africa seeing as they developed there as a people but the Boer people in particular have had NUMEROUS freedom struggles while the more numerous Cape Dutch segment have not. This is significant as the Cape Dutch descendets -which is the majority of the White Afrikaans population- are indifferent & often hostile towards the Boers struggle to regain their self determination.

[GroenRizla]

Good to see your comments again Pinard7

Amazing how these people are only talking about Afrikaaners Not Boers

I agree this is a pathetic 1 way documentary in support of the ANC

[Pinard7]

The Boers have indeed "been overthrown form power" as Du Preez notes -but they have been overthrown from power since 1902. The Boers NEVER came back to power as a singular group as they were forced into a superficial political merger with the Cape Dutch who began to propagate the term Afrikaner in a political context which directly lead to the marginalization of the Boer people who were now expected to submit to the will of the Cape based Afrikaners.

[Pinard7]

Max Du Preez tries to portray the situation as with the nebulous term Right-Wing Afrikaners as this term is an illusion on its face as those who are struggling for their freedom are in fact anti-imperialist Boers. The Cape based Afrikaners aka former Cape Dutch are not as concerned about freedom as much as the Boer descendents are. The Boers are in fact a tribe -as Du Preez admits in a round about manner- but they have nothing to do with the Afrikaners or Cape Dutch descendents.

[Pinard7]

This Botha person is right that most Afrikaner will not fight for their freedom simply because most of them are the descendents of the Cape Dutch who have never had a freedom struggle & were always loyal to the various Colonial powers but the Boers / Boer descendents on the other hand are much more likely to fight for their freedom as they are a people who have always identified with the African continent ever since the Dutch elites dumped their German / Frisian & French ancestors at the Cape.

[Pinard7]

This documentary is an utter disgrace as it attempts to portray the just cause of Boer -not Afrikaner but Boer- self determination in an utterly disingenuous & racist light. The colour of the skin of the Boers has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with their centuries long struggle for freedom since they first struggled against the Dutch Colonial power in 1795 & against the Cape based Afrikaners.

[sguardian870]

You forgot to mention the fact that they killed the blacks on that land first before they got the land or should i say stole tell the whole story lol, they were in europe first then they came to africa and pushed not even paid for the land stop talking bullshit man

[Pinard7]

This assertion is absolute bullshit & you know it! The Boers settled into DEPOPULATED areas! There were once Bantus there BUT they were killed off & pushed out by the Zulus during the Difaqane! What you are doing is attributing the heinous crimes of Shaka to the the Boers when it was Shaka who killed off & pushed out the previous population. No. The Boers were NEVER in Europe because the Boers are a people which developed on African soil out of even some non-European population groups.

[sguardian870]

So boers are not white and their langauge doesnt sound like dutch or something of that sort. And when the boer arrived they took out a particular black population, then they settle, then they went in to combat with another black group as they went further up, the tribe attacked and slaughtered them, then they got ready and slaughter the tribe as they had advanced weapons. If you honestly can tell me that they didnt kill any tribe s off to settle then this convo is a waste of time.

[Pinard7]

Correct. The Boers are not a generic "white" people & their language is not from Dutch but rather from the French & Malay influenced Frankonish which developed on the Cape frontier. The Boers might have displaced the Khoisan people but they did not "took out" the entire group. The Zulus were not "slaughtered" as the battle at Ncome River was a result of being attacked & came AFTER the Zulus killed the Boers at Bloukrans. The Zulus continued to exist in Zululand & there was a Boer-Zulu alliance.

[Pinard7]

Then go ahead & NAME the tribe that they allegedly killed off"! I recall the Zulus killing off 1.5 million people. While the Boers could be accused of displacing the Khoisan people SO TOO DID the Bantus displace [ & down right killed off ] the Khoisan people they encountered. The Boers often were DIPLOMATIC & only ever resorted to warfare in SELF DEFENSE as they often had alliances with other tribes. The Boers ARE a homegrown African people who even speak a language developed on the ground.

[sguardian870]

Diplomatc when as the white man diplomatic in africa, the fact u can sit here and say the only reason a bunch of white people from europe killed was in self denfense of a land that they came across that clearly wasnt theirs is absurd and down right stupid, Im not even going to say anything other than that. Diplomatic my foot.

[Pinard7]

No. The Boer people in question are not "a bunch of White people from Europe"! They are a people which developed on African soil out of the diverse peoples [ some of whom were not even from Europe ] the VOC dumped at the Cape as servants for the Dutch elites. The land that the Boers "came across" in fact did not belong to anyone as it was depopulated by the Difaqane. While the northern Transvaal was initially under the political SWAY [ note not occupation ] of the Ndebele - most of the...

[Pinard7]

Most of the land that the Boers settled into was vacant due to the previous depopulation campaign of Shaka which killed at least 1.5 million people of other tribes. Even the Ndebele & Rolong tribes exercising sway in some of the areas were VERY RECENT IMMIGRANTS themselves into the region. The Bantu tries stole much more lands than the Boers could ever be accused of as it is even against the Boers' religious outlook to claim another man's land.

[sguardian870]

For starters ur language sounds like dutch so your from europe. Even if the bantu took over the land and cleared the other people, they didnt kill them they integrated with them. The boers did not and what do u mean they developed on african soil what were u guys eygptians. Not to mention the eygptians were black. Also the white eygptians were from europe. So what do u mean u developed on african soil. My ancestors did that but ur showed up about 200 or so years ago.

[Pinard7]

This is a total priori argument you are promoting as you are ignorantly inferring that because you PRESUME that the language "sounds" like Dutch that ispo facto: they are then somehow "from Europe". First of all the language is so heavily influenced with an Oriental flavour that is can never be confused with a European language. Next. Afrikaans developed on African soil FAR FROM Europe! Even if the Boer people actually spoke Dutch or some other European language: they are still not from Europe.

[sguardian870]

my point is they come from europe to begin with, i dont care how long uve been living in africa, your from europe originally, ur acting like ur ancestors arrived from space and landed in africa and then started their development.

[Pinard7]

No: they did not come from Europe as a people & at least 5 % of their ancestors came from Asia! What a second here: if the Boers' ancestors arrived from "space" then would they not be cosmic ALIENS from your perspective? Why the hell would cosmic aliens be MORE legitimate to you than former Europeans?! You are promoting a hypocritical outlook here because would not the cosmic aliens be MORE foreign to Africa than former Europeans?! What the hell are you trying to say here?!

[Pinard7]

At least the Europeans are FROM the Earth [ of which no race is supposed to own ( except perhaps your cosmic aliens a la Charles Fort ) but the cosmic aliens would of course not even be from Earth!!!!! How can your cosmic aliens be MORE legitimate in Africa than former Europeans ( & Asians)?! & NO. White people ARE NOT EVEN FROM Europe originally as the Proto-Indo Europeans are all from Asia!!!!!

[Pinard7]

Not only are the White / Proto-Indo European People in fact originally from Asia long before they settled into Europe [ decimating & absorbing the native Old Europeans in the process of which only the Basques still exist ] but your whole argument has no merit because it is irrelevant where a groups ancestors might have come from because it only matters where a people were formed. Furthermore no peoples are a monolithic blend as all peoples on Earth are a rich mix of various different origins.

[Pinard7]

Not from Europe because the Boers developed on African soil. Because few people would assert that the Zulus are from North Africa just because their ancestors were originally from there because they too developed in southern Africa. There were no Boers in Europe before they developed on African soil. The Bantus DID IN FACT kill off the Khoisan population they encountered & they "integrated" with them the same way that the Boers did: by ABSORBING the survivors.

[sguardian870]

so ur saying that the boers mixed sexually with the blacks on the continent, raping does not count as a relationship.

[Pinard7]

No: they did not by & large mix with the Blacks people [ Bantus ] ( with the notable exception of Coenrad Du Buys & the Buys people he created after marrying a Xhosa royal figure ) because they never even met up with them until the late 1700s on the eastern Cape frontier. The Boer people absorbed some Khoisan people due to the early marriage between the White servants & the mixed race servants. Well you just exposed yourself as spook pal because only they ever parrot the "raping" bullshit!!!!!

[Pinard7]

While the earliest White arrivals often MARRIED mixed race slaves [ freed upon marriage ] I recall how you folks [ assuming you are a Bantu & not an anti-Boer White covert intelligence operative! ] in fact RAPED the Khoisan people when your ancestors stole their land out from under them when they settled into much of Africa. Why do you think Eugene Terreblanche & Nelson Mandela look like cousins with just different hues?! Because both have noticeable Khoisan features & ancestors.

[sguardian870]

I dont remember his name but the guy who claims to be the boer leader says boers are all white so i dont see how they inegrated with africans.

[Pinard7]

No. Terreblanche is not "the Boer leader" as he is only the controlled ( he was put in place by the intelligence agencies to discredit Boer self determination as noted by author Peter Stiff in War by Other Means ) leader of the mis-named AWB which only ever represent a very small minority even among the Boer people. There is no Boer leader: there has not been one since Paul Kruger & Martinus Steyn since the days of the old Boer Republics. The Boers ARE Africans: they are integrated with Africa.

[Pinard7]

The Boers developed on African soil out of the various peoples the VOC dumped at the Cape & even absorbed some of the local Khoisan people in the process. The Boers are a total product of Africa & they would never have come into existence if their ancestors had remained in Europe & Asia. The Egyptians were from Sumeria & were a Caucasoid people long before the various White & Black peoples arrived in Egypt. The Boers have been part of Africa for 355 years now.

[sguardian870]

So you are from europe if ur ancestors are from europe and the eygptians have been proven to be black the first set. My gosh u dont seem to stop amazing me. Owell theres no point to this discussion any more bye

[sguardian870]

by the way they were not displaced there was no proof of that they might have just simply been absorbed. Now we know the white europeans didnt plan to join in with them as they still do today. ALSO how abt king mpenzini, he said no to the white taking over his land and resources and what did they do they waged war. Why are whiote denyuing their history in africa and turning it on africans to make themselves feel better.

[Pinard7]

Wrong. The KhoiKhoi [ specifically ] WERE IN FACT absorbed into the various emerging Coloured populations. Who is King Mpenzini? Are you spelling that right because I have found NO references on him! The Boer are not White Europeans because the developed ON African soil out of the poor nomadic class of trekking pastoralists whom historians note cut all ties to Europe early on - even before encountering any of the Bantu tribes. Why are you denying the history of the Boers.

[suspendedb4]

fucking white people always stealing others land...palastine south africa and zimbabwe i am so tired of u go back to europa and take ur religiuon with u

[inthekak]

Does anyone really think that Zuma is the best man to lead SA? Besides Max, he's just 'n Commi bastard joke, what an embarresment to have him speaking on this show as a South African!

[barlog20]

Looks like the afrikrakas are getting a taste of their own medicine.

[adventuremadlad]

Hatred cannot defeat hatred only love can do that. Revenge will never make it right, South Africa needs to be a South Africa for all South Africans equally, regarless of race.

God bless Africa

[vibovitold]

strong survive. that's nature. without the extermination of the neanderthal man there'd be no homo sapiens civilization in neither of these continents. cruel but true

[123obo123]

The program raises very interesting points, especially towards the end. What makes an African and indigenous African?

All Humanity originates in a tiny valley in Tanzania, so the idea of blood is stupid, the idea of skin colour even moreso.

Boers are an African people, and I think people need to recognise that. Apartheid and colonisation have oppressed South African blacks for a long time, but the slow eradication of Afrikaans culture just creates more problems.

[anisam212]

fuck Aljezeera!

[pakiman47]

white people suck

[reprimand33]

If I may ask why do you say white ppl suck?

[Nearonamous]

Wouldn't it be great to get such diverse information from American news organizations....

[shzamiza]

great piece

[7885473]

every1 should realise that there shudnt be this great divide btwn races!race is a human construct based on one feeling more superior to another!i'm not saying one shudnt embrace their culture,beliefs&traditions, but people should realise that there is only one race, the human race, and we should all appreciate the diversity that we have in our society. "Let us shut the door on the past - not in order to forget it, but in order not to allow it to imprison us"

[vincentbluegrey]

great words

[wabdinur]

If these Afrikaners want to keep their inbreeding rights then they can leave Africa. The other alternative is for them to mix (co-exist) with the people of the land. Nelson Mandela has done them a huge favor and yet they haven't realized it.

[vincentbluegrey]

who are u to say shit?

[wabdinur]

If you look around Africa, no one group of people are fairing well when it comes to misery but it seems this particular group (that are not even genuine Africans) have been taking the spotlights and whining about nothing. From looking at this documentary, it seems they're the ones who are attracting the wrong attention. They want to split from South Africa. All I see is rich spoilt Whites who don't know their place in South Africa. They can cry me a river, for all I care.

[305peruana]

im agree with you

[wabdinur]

It's good to know that there are folks out there that are reasonable. Thanks for the support :D

[bluesbegedel]

Some of the people of South Africa has already mix, named 'Coloured'

[wabdinur]

I know but their problems are not covered in this documentary. They should have discussed about the real people that are suffering South Africa and not these rich kids who never go far beyond their community gates.

[NWKBricks1]

Very good piece. Thanks, AJE.

[RG415WBFAA]

It is nice to know that the Black government fears White people with guns when Blacks are the ones who rape and murder at a much higher rate with or without guns. Whites are going to London and Australia because they are being threatened with aggression to get off of their land and cannot survive in anti-White environment. And why shouldn't they say "I told you so" Even if Arikaners are given credit, that doesn't mean Whites will be permitted to create civilization which Blacks ultimately can't.

[Luxor2000AD]

It's funny how he says he is mixed and a bastard child but all he is mixed with is Other Europeans. The boars are a mixture of Europeans born in South Africa not other races. The Boars are white.

[djnobel]

White people fucked over this entire planet. If we were invaded by aliens I would help the Aliens destroy all the white countries. They must get payback for what they have done. They raped, murdered, spread disease, war, famine, genocide, etc. out of all the races, they have the most deaths on their hands and there is no way the natural order of the universe will let this go unpunished. I don't know what will happen but something will. They shall suffer.

[handicaphandgun]

you are totally a stupid racist fuck. fuck you.

[arkuis]

Its interesting how programs like these on South Africa seem to bring out racist feelings in people, perticularly in African Americans. There seems to be a lot of hatrid there and thats going to help no one.

[ScarletLetterR]

Anybody know the name of the painting behind the guy at 6:57?

[gaajo99]

Crackers are nothing but thugs! thats why Allah made most of the white race infidels!

[bluesbegedel]

Don't forget those Arabs are counted as White!

[Davinchemacker]

wats the reason behind aljazeera do this documentary. why dont they just remove there reporters fron africa. africa is useless to them.