Knowing that this was grounded explains a lot, it is easy to arm chair quarter back. The wind may have been worse as you would have paid out the tether, too hard to tell the weather at any altitude. If the nose line broke that could/would cause the other lines to break and with an inexperienced crew would make the decision to deflate the only option.
Our think tank has been considering some solutions for these border area aerostates in high winds. Not this particular challenge in general, but for actual operations in windy conditions. If anyone is interested, perhaps we might discuss this more?
@LanceWinslow5 I am on a team attempting to do the same thing. I am looking for people that know about this and weather limitations. We are trying to come up with weather based training for Aerostat maintainers. If you could help, let me know.
We used the book "Fire weather" as a model for our foul weather/wind training. The most important thing is to have these 3 things;
1. An accurate forecast
2. An on-site weather station
3. Mk. 1 Hairy eyeball. I spotted a dust storm rolling on us prior to a launch that hadn't been forecasted. We had to do an emergency deflate right then and there. Winds got up to 65mph w/4-5 feet visibility. We waited for the storm to pass and did an inflate and launch.
alright, this comment goes out to lame-o-ninja and avn. i was on this crew, and we were going through the class for this aerostat during this video. ours was grounded because the system wasnt fully functional yet. GROUNDED as in this was not a recovery. the wind was sooo bad it broke our nose line and all of our port and starboard lines while grounded. a CIVILIAN who was responsible for teaching us gave us the order to disable the balloon
@cdifalco1, is there a reason you didn't pay out some tether from the main winch so the aerostat could gain some altitude? Seems to me that might have been an option in order to get it out of the turbulent air near the ground. Maybe the main winch wasn't operational yet? Or your trainer didn't think it was safe? Just curious. That must have been a crazy thing to see!
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You got beat by a balloon....?
Dangousity 5 months ago
At least the tether didn't break and you have to go chase it down 10 miles from base and drag it back. good times
mkopp88 6 months ago
That artist? is disturbed all right. Dump the music.
fayettadog 8 months ago
Reminds me of Highschool science class, Oh that's right, these guys got G.E.D.'s. Go Army!
fearnotfear 9 months ago
Epic fail there are so many other ways that this could have been avoided.
USAFBOOM86 11 months ago
Knowing that this was grounded explains a lot, it is easy to arm chair quarter back. The wind may have been worse as you would have paid out the tether, too hard to tell the weather at any altitude. If the nose line broke that could/would cause the other lines to break and with an inexperienced crew would make the decision to deflate the only option.
Tough decision all the way around.
topgun0848 11 months ago
Our think tank has been considering some solutions for these border area aerostates in high winds. Not this particular challenge in general, but for actual operations in windy conditions. If anyone is interested, perhaps we might discuss this more?
LanceWinslow5 1 year ago
@LanceWinslow5 I am on a team attempting to do the same thing. I am looking for people that know about this and weather limitations. We are trying to come up with weather based training for Aerostat maintainers. If you could help, let me know.
Thanks
af4caster 10 months ago
@af4caster
Lance,
We used the book "Fire weather" as a model for our foul weather/wind training. The most important thing is to have these 3 things;
1. An accurate forecast
2. An on-site weather station
3. Mk. 1 Hairy eyeball. I spotted a dust storm rolling on us prior to a launch that hadn't been forecasted. We had to do an emergency deflate right then and there. Winds got up to 65mph w/4-5 feet visibility. We waited for the storm to pass and did an inflate and launch.
SISCalifornia 9 months ago
Lance honestly...let the contractors handle it..to advanced for Joe..they need some officers in there.
SarahsSeniorYear 4 months ago
alright, this comment goes out to lame-o-ninja and avn. i was on this crew, and we were going through the class for this aerostat during this video. ours was grounded because the system wasnt fully functional yet. GROUNDED as in this was not a recovery. the wind was sooo bad it broke our nose line and all of our port and starboard lines while grounded. a CIVILIAN who was responsible for teaching us gave us the order to disable the balloon
cdifalco1 1 year ago
@cdifalco1, is there a reason you didn't pay out some tether from the main winch so the aerostat could gain some altitude? Seems to me that might have been an option in order to get it out of the turbulent air near the ground. Maybe the main winch wasn't operational yet? Or your trainer didn't think it was safe? Just curious. That must have been a crazy thing to see!
nyrtz2me 1 year ago
Lose the expensive payload, break the deployment/retrieval device, or pop the balloon...seems like an easy choice to me.
nkoske 1 year ago
How many sergeants in this group? Not one of them has enough leadership to save the life saving mission essential equipment. US Army FAIL.
superninja13 1 year ago
This is not funny.
NogsZep 1 year ago
These unwieldy RAID aerostat balloons cost about $1.1 million dollars. I wonder if they knew?
aerostat2000 2 years ago
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Zsus79 1 year ago
Statement of Charges for this crew. Excellent video on 'How not to recover an Aerostat.'
avnrulz 2 years ago
was tearing it intentional? seems like the turbulence was from the walled compound
jwiley80 2 years ago