Frank Shamrock knee bar clip

[nicksram4x4]

i dont think it matters much weather you cross them or stack them.. knee bars are the most painful and career ending injury out there.. better to tap soon as you feel that shit applied.

[MrJordybt]

@nicksram4x4 Word

[Drmilkman85]

just roll out

[DukeofDominance]

Why does he stack instead of cross his feet? I thought he had to push the other leg away.

[togoler51]

@DukeofDominance cause crossing can take away from leverage i guess

[mrkiky]

Last time Bas Rutten was defeated 16 years ago was by ken shamrock and this move, so I take Frank's word when he says it's very effective.

[Desi9]

was the hand on the head really necessary??

[drukenhard]

@Desi9 he was showing that it didn't do anything

[suckmyarseb]

I dont like the fact the bloke is sticking his feet in your face, Gay, I dont mind some hot bird sticking her feet in my face, I will give them a good suck.

[bigbootyfiend]

@solovilsonssssssss your an idiot...

[natebocek]

leg locks are where its at

[rrerablade]

@natebocek

Very true my friend. Most people go for upper body sub-missions...but leg locks are the most effective in my opinion.

[CarlitoJohnson]

the knee bar is just damn effective, very painful even without a broken knee

[jarraidjitsu]

yea it makes you look gay when a 280 pound guy attacks you and you end up breaking his knee and he screams like a little bitch if you can't tell it's sarcasm

[stuylocster]

id rather just knock him out instead!

[jarraidjitsu]

what if i take you down

[stuylocster]

i dont think that will be easy to do and what kind of idiot would really put somebody in this move in a street fight?

[jarraidjitsu]

a smart one and it is easy

[JimmyPtheman]

LOL if you dont know the counter, goodbye knee.

[bigbootyfiend]

@stuylocster dude ur so ignorant and dumb becuase u become eroused when near a dude doesn't mean other guys do. I'd much rather choke a dude out than take the chance and have his blood alll over me not knowing if this guy has some sorta disease. and u knock a guy out he might havea sore face for a week or so u break a mother fuckers shit off he could be fucked for like 6 months maybe longer some times shorter

[stuylocster]

@bigbootyfiend whooa calm down it is not that serious alright its just a opinion and a video dont have a stroke

[bigbootyfiend]

@stuylocster an opinion based on simple minded ignorance

unlike u I don't get a boner when I roll with a dude

[ReysWrap]

that's not Frank Shamrock...

that's the guy from "Thunder Down Under"

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[DEATHxValor]

I really dislike that gay pose he did there..I know I know..."Its to give everyone a better view", but still

[riegirrl]

Question:

once down, how do you keep the guy from twisting to his left (lessoning the hold)

[Robopencil]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. If you meant twisting so that he's perpendicular to Frank Shamrock that doesn't lessen the pressure at all.

If you meant twisting onto his belly, very hard to do from this position and still wouldn't do much to lessen the pressure.

Moving towards Frank is just going to make things more uncomfortable.

[riegirrl]

ok, once frank applies the lock on the left leg the guy can shift his torso lower and kick his right leg over

ive seen this happen as a counter as the knee bar is applied

its not a great counter (as the leg is still locked) but its helps

just wondering how to prevent it

[bigbootyfiend]

the person would have to str8n out and roll, granted rolling does work in some cases, but against a verteran grappler, who knows things aren't so smooth will hold a position untill they can preform the break, I have seen it go both ways, rolling serveral times and still getting submitted, rolling out a couples times in a match and still getting knee bar'd, in my opinion rolling is too risky giving to much to chance, unless u feel the opponents grip isn't so good and you only got split seconds

[Freelyrycs]

Learn to read, damn

[riegirrl]

me?

[Freelyrycs]

yea you

[Freelyrycs]

Like god, Say Shamroch instead of "the guy on the left"

Or are you not fammiliar with UFC?

[riegirrl]

i wrote "ok, once FRANK applies the lock on the left LEG the guy can shift his torso lower and kick his right leg over"

maybe you should read slower next time

[Freelyrycs]

Read your own comment, god jeese

I COPIED AND PASTED YOUR ORIGANIL COMMENT!!:

once down, how do you keep the guy from twisting to his left (lessoning the hold) You said "the guy" not frank

[riegirrl]

you said "Like god, Say Shamroch instead of "the guy on the left"

Or are you not fammiliar with UFC? "

i never said the guy on the left, I said "twisting to his left"

you really need to slow down when you read

plus it might help if you spell better

"shamrock, jeeze, original, familiar, etc"

[riegirrl]

anything to add?

[Hotora86]

Shammy is the shit!

[MPA2000]

Why did he put his hand behind his head?

[Nimsha]

to prove that he doesn't use it

[streetkunedo]

This is awesome, he's damn smooth on the ground.

[taetkd]

Why does he stack his feet instead of crossing them, at the end of the move??? Wished the vid was a few minutes longer.

[brottarnacke]

I didn't get that neither. It's a good thing to do that (compared to crossing your feet)when you do an ARMbar , because then it's easier to control both his arms between your legs and still pinch your knees together. I find no use for it in a kneebar though, since you only need to have one of his legs between your legs. Better to cross your feet, or triangle them.

[thrillmo]

it was a knee bar. techniques are not always going to look as perfect and tight under competition as when drilling against an opponent whom is not resisting.

brock would also have been more inclined to tap as mir has a reputation of damaging people with submissions.

no doubt it was a knee bar

[undertakerofevil]

That's exactly how I learned to do it.... Brutal

[V1RG1N1AN]

mir submitted lesnar with an ankle lock, not a kneebar

[HumanTarget420]

It wasn't an ankle lock it was a kneebar... Look up the facts before you post them

[V1RG1N1AN]

youre right

[HumanTarget420]

Its ok, we all make mistakes

[lakkatony]

douche..

[HumanTarget420]

How am I a douche? Im not the one going around telling people they are douches...

[lakkatony]

i guess ignorance is bliss in your case..

[TrueWrestlingGods]

Lesnar lost to a foot lock I would call it an ankle lock but it wasnt in the same position so its a foot lock......fools

[bigbootyfiend]

if any thing it looked like a toe hold variation but it wasn't.he wouldn't have enough leverage to execute a break just put strain on the heel. it was the kneebar, mir was just securing the foot so lesnar couldn't roll out

[sukotsutoclone2]

@bigbootyfiend It is a kneebar when it was completed. When Lesnar pushed away, the figure-four positioning of Mir's legs got tighter, isolating the leg. It gradually turned the toe hold (which can be reversed in that position) into a kneebar (which is harder to escape in that position). That popular image of Mir kneebarring Lesnar is actually the process of getting the kneebar, not the kneebar itself, when the photo was taken.

[TehBeen]

that is not what made Brock submit... Dumbass marks don't even notices between kneebars.

[momoischillaxin]

brock lesnar lost to that move against frank mir on ufc

[bigbootyfiend]

bah I forgot about that event, :( I wanted to get it oh well, I'll just d/l it, or better yet see it on you tube :)

[momoischillaxin]

yea brock lost but he rocked mir... mir didn't even touch him till he lock on that knee bar..... brock is gonna dominate in ufc

[bigbootyfiend]

yeah I was a bit impressed with brock's positioning on the ground, his punches didn't look all that great needs work. and he needs to kno his pase. If the rounds went any longer I don't think he woulda survived to long.

[bigbootyfiend]

P.S. I don't think it was a knee bar that mir sumbmitted him with either, I noticed that mir was kinda high up on the knee and when they showed the footage from the other side (mir front) I noticed mir had brocks foot in a foot lock which I think was the submission

[toxictof]

nah it was a knee bar he just didnt have it in 100% brocks legs are not as strong as his upperbody.

[Viperguy896]

You can't compare Mir striking with everyone elses in that division. Brock needs to tighten up on his jiu jitsu big time.

[bigbootyfiend]

stacking also gives a lil better leverage and the crossing the feet still plays a disadvantage on trying to maintain the postion if there is a bit of a scramble

lil things but in grappling it's always the lil things that makes the big picture...

[torb1991]

Someone please tell me why he puts one hand at the back of his head?

[bigbootyfiend]

so it's easier to see what hand he scoops the leg with

[PsychoMatt619]

hahahaha! Go ahead try your luck, I dare you.

[brottarnacke]

I wonder why he doesn't want to cross his feet.

I know you don't wanna do that when doing an armbar, because his far arm can get wedged between your shins and loosen your control of his near arm, but with a kneebar that shouldn't make any difference.

I like the "stacking" of the feet, while doing the armbar though.

It allows you to lock your feet together pretty good and still have tight control of his arms.

[therealhyper]

awesome - gonna try it tonight