Judge: Miranda rights "overrated" - warning, silent

[graverobber35]

Miranda only applies if you are being questioned...Anything you utter without being asked is your own donation to the prosecution...The defendant in this case got in trouble while on probation, he deserves being caged.

[DavidForthoffer]

The prosecutor IS RIGHT that Miranda warnings are overrated BY THE PUBLIC.

I attribute the frequent protestations of "My Miranda rights were not read to me" as ignorance.

Folks, it is GOOD if your Miranda rights are not read to you. That means, depending on the circumstances, certain things you may say may be suppressed in court. Why remind the police or prosecutors to do something that could hurt your case? Just note it and tell your attorney.

[7373nhm]

@DavidForthoffer

Good call on all of this this. Many of the postings on this video reflect a real ignorance about basic constitutional law/criminal procedure. That's bad news - especially for people truly concerned about their rights.

[mamabritts]

Who is the sponsor here? The link doesn't work.

[RatRob69]

Wow, judge denies legal counsel to man in his court? Really? How is this judge still in his position?

[DavidForthoffer]

@RatRob69: The main purpose of the hearing was for the judge to decide whether probable cause existed to hold Malone for the charges. That is a hearing where the defendant does not even have the right to attend.

After affirming probable cause, the judge was extending a courtesy by conducting an impromptu bail hearing. The alternative would have meant Malone saying in jail over the Christmas holidays. Malone could have insisted on his attorney, but that would have just delayed it.

[gretschjazzer]

The judge is right. Not only that, we need to keep these loony conservative libertarian freemen off the streets. These clowns are some of the worst criminals out there.

Good work by the judge.

[5tevef]

@gretschjazzer I guess I will have to state the obvious. Do you have any facts to back up your claims?

[tannerwaterbury]

@5tevef I think he's being ironic...

[5tevef]

@tannerwaterbury Gotcha! Sorry, I sometimes have to defend my beliefs and miss the obvious which is for sure ironic. :)

[TheSirdavis]

@gretschjazzer

I agree, rights suck, I wish we were all agreed that government can always be trusted to do good stuff to the people.



[Joebhoy1888able]

Wants out? FFS

[PowerfulPunch]

Oh I get it. Idaho ran out of space or patience for white supremists training camps and anti government groups hiding under the "rights advocate" moniker. So you picked a rural state like NH to practice all this civil disobience shit while you walk around strapped just waiting for an excuse to draw down on the man. What exactly is the difference between you and the National Socialist party? NH makes sense, Low minoirty population, liberal gun laws, lots of room for you to play army.

[ten8goa]

A person does not get Miranda warnings JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING ARRESTED. Its done prior to QUESTIONING,

[NinjaRider777R]

@ten8goa The law states very clearly that is a person is being arrested, they MUST be read their rights AT THAT TIME, as soo as the cop says "you're under arrest" he is under obligation of law to read you your Miranda rights, PERIOD.

[7373nhm]

@NinjaRider777R

Ten8goa's statement is correct. Custody PLUS interrogation requires Miranda warnings. The Court has said it again and again: Miranda warnings are only a prophylactic measure intended to prevent the police from getting coerced self-incriminating statements from suspects under arrest in violation of the 5th Amendment. No interrogation - no Miranda warnings required. That's the law.

Your misunderstanding of Miranda is exactly what Burke was inarticulately talking about here...

[NinjaRider777R]

@7373nhm In every state I've ever lived in, the local laws stated VERY clearly that the rights were to be read at the time of the arrest, not hours later.

[7373nhm]

@NinjaRider777R Local police departments might have regulations that require their officers to read a suspect their rights upon arrest; but, failure to promptly read a suspect's rights has no practical impact on a defendant's case whatsoever UNLESS the defendant was subjected to custodial interrogation AND was not read his or her Miranda rights AND he or she made an incriminating statement. In that case that statement would be suppressed - that's all the defendant gets for an officer's screw-up.

[DavidForthoffer]

@7373nhm: Right. Furthermore, incriminating testimony made in a custodial setting without Miranda rights IS admissable in a BAIL HEARING, as this was.

[ThingsBetweenTimes]

It's shake-down time.

[racistathiest666]

This IS how many, many of those in our justice system & law enforcement are ALLOWED to act, AND think. Nowadays, it is the INDIVIDUAL PERSON who has POWER & are no longer for the total LEGAL, Constitutional system itself. So if one in power FEELS that he/she is disrespected or can ABUSE their given power, they individually ABUSE it for PERSONAL reasons. It is no longer upholding law but upholding what that individual person afforded power FEELS he/she can do with it. Sad day in America.

[coolasshole23]

this judge should hanged by the American people! 

[faffaflunkie]

It is a poorly known fact that the police DO NOT have to "Mirandize" a person PRIOR to a confession. As long as the warning was given at some time DURING the interrogation the confession will stand up in court. The axiom "never talk to police" has never been more valid.

[teewilson333]

Everyone knows Law is simply a way for bureaucracy's to enforce just about every regulation they can to control just about every aspect...I don't think Ive lived one day of my life without breaking a law. Fda food modernization act-cant sell grow trade or buy organic foods?!?!?!?LMAO really?!?!There actually trying to pass HEALTHY EATING DISORDER as a medical illness. My sister had her property ceased for using roof water to water her plants. I was removed from court for not tucking my shirt in

[RSparowe]

Today I learned that while doing research on United States law, I (As a Canadian) know more about the Miranda Warning than a lot of Americans. "Overrated" was the wrong word to use, but the Miranda rights only apply if you're UNDER INTERROGATION 1) while under detainment, and 2) where answers could incriminate you. For example, if the arresting officer asked the defendant, while in custody, if he had a licence to carry a concealed weapon, THEN he could invoke his rights.

[CSATexan]

@RSparowe

This guy is being interrogated, anytime an agent of the court ask as question it is nothing more than an interrogation

[RSparowe]

Check out this video for further explanation: watch?v=-XkkmkRvTyA

Make special note of the fact that if no questions are asked, you don't even need to be read the Miranda warning. I don't feel like watching the video again, as my paper is long written, but I believe the defendant was asked no questions after being put in custody.

[CSATexan]

@RSparowe

I don't really have to watch a video, but I am willing to state that it is the most wonderful video in the world. If you are willing to admit that the video does not supersede a persons rights.

With that said, officers of the court, are bound by the rules of the court. So anything that you say in court will be used against you.

[RSparowe]

If you're talking about being asked questions by the Judge himself, Miranda doesn't apply. The fifth amendment applies. Paraphrasing, it's basically the right to not answer questions that would make you the witness onto yourself.

Hope this helped.

[tacticoolzombie]

scumbag.......little mini tyrant wannabe..........

[TheChimneyPro]

hope you guys still bailed him out

[TheChimneyPro]

false arrest

[TheChimneyPro]

reverse habeas corpus

[gotgank]

I never said we need a policy change. When "first blood" is drawn, its usually too late for the victim. If I hold a pistol at my side, at that range, I can shoot and kill u before ur mind realizes I have moved. So, if u were to wait for me to point it at u, its already over. Walking up on Police with a weapon out is just stupid. Cops dont know if hes another bad guy. Dont know if hes involved. Dont know if hes a threat.

[ISamuelII]

@gotgank Yeah nice excuses, but WHO has taken the risk of the job on themselves. That is the risk THE cop shall take, not the innocent populous s/he is there to "serve and protect".

Do you get it yet sputnik or are you living in your own personal war zone?

[ISamuelII]

What is really insane in all this is our second amendment states we all can "keep and bear arms" and any law written to limit that activity in any way is an infringment on that right to keep and bear arms. These pigs should be arrested for violating their own oath they took to uphold the constitution. Min 50 year prison term for each violation, or executed.

", the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

What is the confusion about? Oaths and organized criminals.

[gotgank]

@ISamuelII No where in the 2nd ammendment does it say, "Its ok to walk up on Cops brandishing a shotgun."

[ISamuelII]

@gotgank Nowhere but in the paranoid mind of a cop is a Citizen with a lawfull fire arm at his side any form of a threat when someone is screaming HELP!

[gotgank]

@ISamuelII Clearly u have never been in a critical incident. WHY is the person screaming for help? WHO is the threat in that situation? WHAT the fuck is going on? Until the Cops figure out wtf is going on, ANY unknown person with a weapon is a threat.

Sure, we took the job. But I want to go home at the end of my shift just like the next guy. Why be stupid? In a perfect world, maybe ur ideas would work. But our world is far from perfect.

[gotgank]

@ISamuelII And as soon as I figure out he IS a Citizen with a lawful firearm and NOT going to KILL me, Ill take my gun out of his ear, help him off the ground and send him on his way.

[TheChimneyPro]

@gotgank yes it does,this officer should be charged with professional misconduct,false imprisonment nothing found than reverse charges against officers,demirt system than remove from job after 3 strikes police look at all citizens as untrustworthy until they ided you, if thats not paranoid, down size open carry create a constitutional militiaman to start making citizens arrests we will see cops drop like flies they do not care about you're rights,control ,command,disarm,arrest .

[gotgank]

@TheChimneyPro U really have no idea what ur talking about, do u?

[tenbarrels6]

How can a judge order someone to "not commit a crime"!? And then punish someone for breaking the order. Isn't committing a crime already illegal? Now they have TWO charges instead of one. What a racket.

Interesting how they don't let people have an attorney at this stage of their "process". That is patently illegal. But it happens in just about every case.

[swu880]

cops are tyrants period.

What is the difference between a democracy(aka oligarchy) and liberty?

"Democracy is 2 wolves(in this case more than a dozen treacherous wolves) and a lamb deciding on what to have for lunch. Liberty is the well armed lamb contesting the vote"

-Ben Franklin

[wolf987123]

@swu880 In all reality, government has no authority whatsoever. The reason is: If a civil war or revolution were to begin, they would be helpless. Government needs its citizens in order to function. If the entire country would rather die than give into their demands, the government would be completely destroyed.

GOVERNMENT HAS NO AUTHORITY!!!!

It only appears that they do.

[thegreatfish]

I just want to jump in an concur with the majority here. What the judge said is 100% accurate. Overrated was probably a poor word choice. He should have said misunderstood, but still, there was nothing factually incorrect about what he said. You do not need to be read your miranda rights unless there's a custodial interrogation. I think Ridley needs to do his homework.

[ArrestAJudgeKit]

The utopians are clueless, aren't they?

8. Doesn't a police officer always have to read me my “Miranda rights” before questioning me?

No. A “Miranda warning (see Section II) is required only if a suspect is in custody and the police intend to interrogate the suspect. In other words, both “custody” and “interrogation” have to occur for Miranda rights to kick in.

Attorneys Paul Bergman & Sara J. Berman. The Criminal Law Handbook: Know Your Rights, Survive The System, 11th Edition. Page 17.

[ArrestAJudgeKit]

This is what happens when utopian beliefs and 'patriot paper-work' meet head-on with reality.

[gotgank]

Miranda is ONLY required when asked to make a statement while in Custody.

This case is a slam dunk. Approaching an Officer with a gun in your hands?? Hes lucky he didnt get shot. If the Officer felt in fear of his life at that moment, it would have been 100% justified shooting. Officer/Victim perception IS taken into consideration. Believe this.

He made a baaaad choice.

[ISamuelII]

@gotgank And you state the reason we need a policy change where a cop can not use deadly force without the actual threat of blood being drawn there. In this case like leveling the barrel of the gun at someone not just in the possession of one or the likelyhood of using one, actually using one. The concept of first blood comes up where so many Citizens will still be alive if the cop has to face an actual threat. If the citizen felt he could help their neighbors, we'd need less cops probably 0.

[newdarnaccount]

Meantime, stand in front of a mirror and practice saying: "I decline to answer and assert privilege under the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the state constitution." And keep saying it. Trust me! Follow with, "I want a lawyer." And remember people in the criminal justice system are the most lazy and stupid in the country. And, btw, I've spent almost every Xmas Eve of my adult life working my buns off.

[newdarnaccount]

Those damn liberals and their Miranda rights! Yes, you can thank liberals for those. And, yes, *Miranda* applies only when you are questioned in custody--period. It concerns me a lot that a person would be in custody over 12 hours and appear for a hearing without a lawyer. But I'm sure Roberts and Alito et al. will fix that.

[TheDigihax]

There we go i can hear it now lol...

[TheDigihax]

Why are all these videos got the god-damn sound disabled???...

[Lisa4588]

@TheDigihax the sound isn't disabled for me. Have you checked your computer volume setting? It might be muted. Good luck.

[whippoorwillss]

I'd have to agree..Miranda Warning is nannyish. The role of government shouldn't be one that holds your hand every step of the way.

[Lisa4588]

@whippoorwillss What are you, about 12? Do you even know what it is?? Miranda was a defendent in a Supreme Court decision. I consider Miranda to be very important. And MOST would consider not getting it a violation of their rights. It's their warning to you that you have the constitutional right to say NOTHING, except you'd like to talk to your attorney. And that if you do, it can used as evidence in court.

[whippoorwillss]

@Lisa4588 I've been through the ringer. They don't have to give you a Miranda warning unless you are being questioned while in custody. Besides it up to you to know your rights. Educate your self, poke around on youtube and/or talk to a lawyer. Oh and no I'm not 12 I'm 9 and 3quarters...smartypants :-)

[swatcapt11]

@Lisa4588 yeah it only a violation at certine times if they dont question im then no Miranda is need.......comeing out at the cops with a shotgun is a closed case

[cassidy99ful]

if you guy hate giving your money away to these guys why don't you just obey the law?

[marshallone]

You guys must love jail cause you are doing EVERYTHING WRONG. The Judges must get together and laugh at the pathetic attempts you make. I have offered my help before and you continue to do the same mistakes over and over and expect a different result. It is the insanity in action.

Sad...peace in jail, you will need it :)

[supertrader4]

This is ChRoNo. As big of a dick the judge is... he's correct in regards to the Miranda warning.. it really is overrated... the only time a Miranda warning is relevant, is if your under arrest and after the arrest the cop attempts to question you. No Miranda warning needs to be read before an arrest or even after arrest if there is no questions after the arrest.

[marshallone]

@supertrader4 Whoa, just a minute, one of the Miranda warnings says "Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law." If 'anything you say' will be used against you, that includes your Name and Date of Birth, so if you have that right, you have it before ANY QUESTIONING takes place, therefore, them asking for ID is questioning and you have the RIGHT not to give them even your NAME or any information that will be used against you. Anything you say will be used against you.

[DominicMetal1979]

No big loss to the movement. He couldn't even shut up long enough for the judge to let him out of jail. He's trying to turn a simple bail hearing into a trial. Also what's with threatening the cop's family? The movement doesn't need people like this representing it.

[SexySex50]

Too bad he wasn't allowed to say what he wanted like the judge origanally said he coould.

[conspiracy777]

The whole miranda rights thing has been well established as case law for a number of years. It is exactly as the judge said. They are no long required to read them to you in every situation. Strange I know ... but sadly true.

[conspiracy777]

yes ... we ARE slaves. The way they "nudge" us into being willing participants is that they place a tax on our property. This forces us off of our land to make enough money to pay the tax. That puts you into the "labor system" and hence all the other taxes follow.

There was a time that you could own property. Live on it. grow your own food and trade at your own will with your neighbors, without any interference from the government.

Those days are gone. Welcome to the chattel field.

[2012nugget]

Just wanted you to know I gave you a thumbs up to counter the one down. Joe Stacks, American hero.  1956-2010 OnePeace

[conspiracy777]

Thanks! I'm not sure why people give me thumbs down on something that is just a statement of fact. I didn't express as much of an opinion than it was a statement of historical fact.

???

Oh well.

Thanks again!

[conspiracy777]

Why the heck to I get thumbs down on this statement? I'm just stating the facts and some how that gets a thumbs down? At least make a comment explaining what's wrong with my statement.

[mercurio0000]

...money thank you may think. Yes they clothe you and feed you crappy food. But when you spend time in there, they are making a killing at wall street. Ask walmart if you don't believe me.

Ask the Chinese. You didn't think that China was just going to be making money with their cool electronics.

Each country has many resources. One of them just happens to be the human cattle. Yes you are a human resource.

Why do many companies have a Human Resource Office? Hmm.

We are slaves!

[mercurio0000]

... Didn't you hear the lawyer say how much money he wants the city to CONFISCATE from this man?

Yes, they are confiscating our money. That is what it's called. And that's why they create "new excuses" they call laws, code, rules, regulations. So they can get more of it. They know that eventually you will break one of their codes, laws, etc.. and they know you will pay.

And if you go to jail, you still pay. Yes they feed you but guess what? When you are in jail, you are making them more ...

[mercurio0000]

...the insurance companies, they are all in it. And you are not welcome!

So the insurance companies donate radar guns to the police depts then they get to increase your premium when you get a ticket.

Now wonder why your driving record clears every 5 to 7 years except the NO INSURANCE violations and a few other things. They are in it!

The tickets for now insurance will never clear off your record.

This bail hearing is not about what the guy did. It is about money! Didn't you hear the....

[mercurio0000]

Courts are a business. That all! Courts are there to extract the wealth of the population. There is no such a thing as justice. You do not get justice at a court. It is commerce!

Who benefits?

Let's say that you got stopped for speeding. You go down there and pay $200. Do they take the $200 away form the speeder and give it to the "good citizens" that don't speed? Hmm.

Insurance companies pay for radar guns for police department. Why? Because it is a big business. The courts, judges, lawyers..

[candlstudios]

Anyone care to address the actual allegations the government is making against this guy? The city attorney said this guy was threatening the cop and the cop's family. That's a very different story than just running outside to see if someone needed help.

Sad to see him throw his supporters under the bus though. Even if you're quitting the movement you don't need to kick your supporters in the teeth on your way out.

[carmp3fan]

I see that a few people have it right, but I want to clarify also. First, Miranda "rights" don't exist. They are Miranda warnings. The rights are the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney. That's it. There is no "Miranda right".

Second, as much as I dislike some of Judge Burke's rulings, he is right. The Miranda warnings are "overrated in the sense that you do not have to be read your Miranda rights under every circumstance." This is true.

[carmp3fan]

There are two parts to Miranda; custody and guilt seeking questions. If either of those two does not exist, Miranda warnings are not required. One tactic that is commonly used is to arrest someone and never ask them a question. In many cases they will talk on their own. As far a custody, just because someone isn't in handcuffs doesn't mean they aren't in custody. If they are not free to leave they would, most likely, be considered "in custody".

[ThePresidentialTouch]

Listen to what he's saying though. "I want nothing to do with Free Keane anymore....it was a bad idea coming here, I'm finished with Keane"

Sounds like he was an idealistic young man who left a less free place to join the ranks of a group which believed in simple principles of government and that government should work for and with the people, where the state motto is "Live Free Or Die".

Then they bust him for illegal gardening and answering a cry for help.

No wonder he's pissed off.

[hammerhead707]

As Ed2276 said, "never talk to the police". You can NOT talk them out of arresting you so keep your mouth shut and get a lawyer.......

[ed2276]

From the fact pattern I heard here, it seems Jesse has a valid defense. He has the privilege of defense of another. He heard someone yelling for help and went to see if that person was in need of help. When Jesse realized that what was going on was a police matter, he dropped the shotgun and ceased going to the person's defense.

All Jesse had to do was to keep his mouth shut--no matter how wronged he felt he was at arrest--until he could speak with his lawyer. His outbursts didn't help him.

[stoneresipsa]

Very important - Miranda rights ONLY go towards statements. If the police are not going to question you they do NOT have to read you your rights. This is why some courts dont allow cameras - the layperson will take what is said out of context and misinterpret it. In a gun case the police dont need a statement so no Miranda rights. Im very much on the defendants side in ALL cases but its important to understand what and how. JRE

[ed2276]

Police have to inform an arrestee of his Miranda warnings before they question him, or if a person is under investigatory detention which could lead to the detainee's arrest. However, one is not shielded one from having his spontaneous statement(s), not elicited by the police, used against him--even absent a Miranda warning.

That is why the #1 rule is DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE...EVER! Keep your mouth shut until you are alone with your lawyer and fight the battle in court at a later date.

[stoneresipsa]

Key part is before they question him. Most people believe that Miranda has to be read when your arrested whether your questioned or not. In this kind of case I can see the judge remarking that Miranda is not really relevant b/c the police needed no further evidence. And your incorrect on the second part. True a spontaneous remark can be used against you but in order to enter statements Miranda warnings become very important. Dont even talk with your lawyer WHILE in custody. Dont say a word.

[5tevef]

Actually the Judge stated that "Miranda Warnings" are overrated. Big difference from Miranda rights. I still believe it's a good idea to read suspects their rights but everyone should know their rights and uphold them. They shouldn't rely on government to tell them what their rights are as we have seen what that causes.

[LumpyRevolution]

I support Jesse... always.

[AwakenedByTyranny]

This "judge" is insane and megalomaniacal. I can't believe my ears! All he wants to do is "speed up HIS process"... ruining human lives. What a jerk!

[freestatereport]

well, he did have to come in on christmas eve to service new souls for the soul crushing institution that is known as the prison system..

[AwakenedByTyranny]

Wonderful! I love your sense of humor!

[vipero00]

I think a better statement from the judge would have been to say "you've been misinformed by the mass media about the use and meaning of Miranda. Get together with your attorney and he/she will be able to explain this to you."

The purpose of Miranda is not so that you can blurt out evidence that you want to poison and keep the government from using before they use the magic words.

[TheCrystalRiver]

In short, stop being little whiners and do what you're supposed to do

This is obviously not directed at all FSPers but you get the point....

[zppz]

you NH guys need to get you act together a bit better... miranda warning is not a requirement for anything, remember it has only been around since 1966, how did people get arrested before that ;)

george gordon has an excellent radio series where he spends a whole section discussing different types of police stops and what the citizens obligations are in each case. google george gordons school of law, its in the radio archives somewhere, if anyone is interested i will find out the exact one

[TheCrystalRiver]

I agree. I'm a full supporter of the FSP but this sort of behavior better be publicly denounced quickly.

Going around and intimidating people is not going to get shit done... it'll make people feel that you are all a threat. Whether justified by one incident or not.

You guys need to know that you're taking on a corrupt system and that they're not going to play by your rules. That being said, you don't fuckin bring your shotgun outside into public and point it at a fucking POLICE OFFICER

[vipero00]

Even the prosecutor corrected the judge and stated the weapon was pointed towards the ground not directly at the officer.

[TheCrystalRiver]

That's a plus, then

[5tevef]

I'd like to hear them, I've been stopped for speeding so many times and basically given up my rights each time. It's just recently that I've discovered that I can have a say in the outcome of an investigation.

[MoneyIsSilver]

Interesting they were out there "investigating a motor vehicle infraction". Typical pirating pigs, out at someone's place arresting them over unpaid traffic tickets.

[SSILENTNATION]

Miranda is two pronged, not one and is only required if a person is in custody i.e. not free to leave AND is going to be asked questions that could incriminate. No more. No less. If they arrested him and didn't ask him questions, no need to read him his "rights" - as if he didn't know them already - who the hell doesn't. No judge on earth, including Burke, would uphold/allow any statements that would incriminate if he was in custody and not read his rights.

[p00lman]

Get rid of this free stater.

[bbburton]

Failure to truthfully answer questions by an investing officer may result in a charge of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE if it is later discovered that you provided FALSE STATEMENTS! If you are accused of a crime during an investigation, it is better to ask if you are under investigation, and if so, if you are under arrest, and if so, REFUSE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS without the assistance of an attorney. Don't assist in your own prosecution. If you are not certain as to your status, ASK!

[bbburton]

I think it's important that Miranda rights are only recognized as a protection against police interrogation after arrest, and does not apply to statements made spontaneously. Another words, if you are arrested, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! When police are called to the scene of a 'crime' and are conducting their investigation, MIRANDA DOES NOT APPLY! Asking what happened to someone potentially involved in the incident as a victim or witness IS POLICE INVESTIGATION, NOT AN INTERROGATION!

[keytoothed]

So, I guess his real crime was hurting the officer's and the D.A.'s feelings.

[FJL48186]

You are a fairly odd man Mr Ridley. I think your handling of this situation is being done very fairly and true to your principles. I applaud you for that. Many good things to you and yours in the New Year

[Anothercoilgun]

2000 is guilty until proven innocent. This damn farce called court is disgusting. I wonder if anything about the cause could be used FOR him. These demonic assholes sole purpose in life is to make a mountain out of a mole hill to generate revenue.

[OnGuard4Liberty]

As a free stater myself, although I've never met him in person, Mr. Maloney seems like a loose cannon based on what I've seen on the Ridley Report.  I'm glad he's leaving.

[Anothercoilgun]

@OnGuard4Liberty

Your statement proves you are a hypocrite.

United States of the once was free America. That means no need to be part of ANY group be int nhliberty, freekeene, or any damn thing else. Freedom to not conform to any group regardless of the praises it receives is more important than any praised group. Remember that.

Glad he is leaving.. shit.

[p00lman]

He's not a hypocrite for opposing the man's poor behavior.

[1eich]

Thank you officer English

[BOBSMOKETV]

Miranda rights only come into question if the police are going to question you or take a statement. Other than that, if they witness your offense or you volunteer information prior to or after arrest, its admissible in court.

[Riflemanm16a2]

I was going to say that it would have been obvious that he was innocent since he surrendered when he was obviously capable of defending himself, but if the gun was unloaded, then I guess that argument doesn't work. As I understand it, in the case that started Miranda rights readings, the defended, accused of murder, was set free even though there was a lot of evidence against him just because he didn't know that he didn't have to talk.

[Deoptics8]

Miranda rights are overrated. You always have your 5th Amendment right and it never has to be told by the police. Once the police interacts with you other than a casual conversation, you are essentially "under arrest". They don't have to say you are under arrest or detained. There is no difference. Was "Free Keene" mentioned during the hearing or in the police report? Why did they/he drag that in? Violent threats? Complete against Free Keene or FSP philosophy. This is messed up on both sides.

[klaptongroovemaster]

Miranda rights or not, STFU. Say NOTHING in the presence of the pigs. (Even if they obviously deserve an earful.) They do not have to TELL you that everything you say will be used against you for them to use everything you say against you.

SAY NOTHING TO THE PIGS - EVER.

[JohnBabiuk]

non response is acceptance. Lawyers want you to not respond so that you have already entered into conflict, then declare yourself legally retarded (Incapable of Handling Your Affairs). Tacit Acceptance through Acquiescence or something like that.. Conditional Acceptance is the moral high ground. Don't argue with the cop (conflict), don't say nothing (tacit acceptance), but calmly ask questions and seek clarification. Or not. Your choice. Freedom's Kewl. ;)

[CJFS9]

Can anyone who was present at the time Jessie was cuffed state whether or not he made the threats he is accused of ?

[deathmarch5]

Translation You are a Cash cow slave American you will pay up to every part of this criminal monopoly until we are satisfied.Then you will be released until next time we need more cash.

[VeohBlows]

Start a petition to impose term limits and votes for judges.

Obviously entrapment on behalf of the Keene Government, I call these people republicans? do you call them democrats? Doesn't matter they are still assholes, either way.

Find out the church the Judge and prosecutor goes to and protest every Sunday outside.--my favorite------:P

[rea1001]

Jesse is not liked because he doesnt follow. A certain computer programmer in Keene told me that one could get ostracized from the free state project if people "dont like you". I asked if evidence of wrong doing was needed. He said no. Just that if "people dont like you". This is the reason I left after my brief stay. Sounds like the same ole bullshit to me, and I want no part of it.