The ones that commented on my comments.Very scary these are the ones out there protecting us.1st. the 100 STORY building wasn't made up all glass RETARD.Rules of our nation under attack(Last timed i checked)was 1st. thing is to get our Pres.to safety no matter what.They said the planes was going about 400 to 500.Talked to someone that builds these planes and max speed at that level would be no more than 250.Anything to try to hide the TRUTH...
@sonnyboyy1974 lol 400 to 500 what knots miles kilometres feet meters light years ?? since you didnt elaborate i call bullshit on you speaking to an aircraft builder , aircraft gather speed while descending thanks to a groovy little thing called gravity , the last time i checked the penny didnt drop till after the second plane hit the towers its up to the secret service to define a safe place and that school was at the time safer than af1
Before anyone leaves comments on something you don't know about"DO YOUR RESEARCH 1st."1.Planes can't fly at that speed at that height.200 not 450 they would tear apart.Open your eyes and block out what they told you that day on the News and really ask how and why did a lot of stuff didn't happen if it did To try to stop it.I think a hour and half to go by and all this is happening."WHERE THE FUCK WAS OUR AIR-FORCE"and WHY WAS THE PRES. NOT TAKING TO SAFETY.Anytime before under attack that's 1st
@sonnyboyy1974 lol "WHY WAS THE PRES. NOT TAKING TO SAFETY." so youre side makes the case that the pilots involved were so shit at flying they shouldnt have been able to hit any of theyre targets , but then say that they were shit hot enough to hit a school in the middle of nowhere that isnt marked on charts just by dead reckoning something of a bit of an acquired skill
@sonnyboyy1974 and why would you move the president ? you already assume he would be moved , to where ? airforce 1 which would be an easily found target , or drive the motorcade in a multitude of directions utilising its decoys , you would throw an operation like that directly in the too hard basket if he wasnt the first target he was never going to be one , oh and 40 yo b52's fly at low level and high speed all the time ! do youre research waahhh!
Some evaluation! He didn't see the plane because from the angle he took that picture the plane came in on the opposite side of the building meaning the view was blocked! A plane flying that fast would not be noticed by lots of people especially since there are tall building in the way. After all, he would have to fly in low to the hit the tower in the first place. Try again!
Use the North Tower's location (behind the South) as a reference. Its the impact location. And i don't know what a twoofer is, but research before calling somebody one.
@mfrank165 well why the hell not a piece of straw can pierce a palm tree in a hurricane, water is weaker than steel and aluminium but at a high enough velocity it can cut steel to great precision but anyway ill just suspend reality and pretend the plane would have comically bounced off harmlessly aye
I'm not an expert but it looks like that fireball is a exploding fuel tank and the white above it looks like a wing tip. I think the planes hit, they had to. The towers fell to controlled explosives not aircraft.
Throughout history, fake pictures have been given to highly willing and gullible audiences..... the same is true on 9/11 videos. Still, the complicity of the network news (and their poor regard for physics) will never be obvious to many who can never awaken from their bubble of false reality, no matter how hard we try. Regardless, we must continue to expose the obvious shabby and inconsistent graphics. Future generations need to know not everyone fell for the lies.
@beachcomber2008 Really. To think a plane would have bounced off is ridiculous.There was some other asshole who said that the 3000 names were made up & all those people at 911 are fucking ACTORS. Stupidity on these bastards.
I think half of them are dis-info agents like these.
dailymail . co . uk/news/article-1367535/U-S-military-using-fake-online-profiles-spread-propaganda.html
But both WTC planes entered the building with no visible damage to the plane or building. They didn't disintegrate against them as shown in the clip you posted??
@muzicmaker2001 "No visible damage" - except 50-yard holes on the impact side. and bits missing from the opposite side too? Whatever you smoke. I'd like a piece of...
"They didn't disintegrate" because the towers weren't made of 5 foot thick blocks of reinforced concrete, but instead 14 inch square hollow sections of 5/16 inch steel sheet, & the impact energy of the aircraft, equivalent to 1.5 tons TNT, OUTPOWERED 50 yards of those box beams with almost enough spare to DO IT AGAIN the other side
Nothing to smoke. Just a working set of eyes is all you need. I actually meant damage to the plane (compressed nose, falling debris??) and building at impact, not after the fact. But, note how the plane impact and the creation of the plane shaped hole are two diffferent events. Meaning pre-planted explosives were used to create the hole.
@muzicmaker2001 "two different events" - only if you have a split personality
Images of the hole were captured in sharp detail by well-placed still picture cameras, whereas images captured by EVERY amateur video were SO BADLY BLURRED by being hand-held, low in contrast because of being telephoto, and so video-compressed, they had "removed" the tower windows
Don't pretend to me that the hole didn't exist after impact
NO exterior column broken ends point OUTWARD, but some point IN
Since you do around on multiple pages related to 911 defending the OV, I will "definitely" take that under consideration. I've met many like this on here. So, just a hobby then?
@muzicmaker2001 Check my channel, check jazzroc. wordpress. com/about, check Soundclick/Beachcomber, check Myspace/JazzRoc check Google. I am what it says on the tin
My agenda is to expose the truth. Your "hobby" is to defend the OV no matter what. And why do all debunkers assume that anyone wants to hear their version of physics, logic or reasoning. Yes, i am just waiting to hear this...Either post your credentials as an aviation expert, engineer, etc or you're just not another random guy on YT, right?
@muzicmaker2001 "My agenda is to expose the truth" - U've exposed NONE, except what U truly don't understand. U actually spread lies & fear, & cloud truth
"defend the OV no matter what." - U don't know what the OV is. If U did U couldn't find a reasonable argument against it, for there's none
'A' level Maths, Physics, Chem, HNC Mech Eng, Degree 3-D Industrial Eng Des and 38 years professional experience in aviation & design. Of course Ud know that if U'd followed my ref
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO ALLEGIANCE and acknowledging NO RESPONSIBILITY to the people. To DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the UNHOLY ALLIANCE between CORRUPT BUSINESS and CORRUPT POLITICS is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906
IF TEDDY ROOSEVELT KNEW ABOUT ALL THESE CORRUPT BASTARDS IN 1906 or 1912. Then how far have all these bastards come in the last HUNDRED YEARS?
@ed11561 Do you know that when Bush said he'd seen the first plane hitting the tower on TV that morning even though it wasn't aired until the next day, he might have accidentally been telling the truth?...
DARPA has a technology that let's them see through time...
They could be surveiling you from anywhere & any point in time without you knowing, just like in that film called "Dé·jà vu"
DARPA & TIME TRAVEL Andrew D. Basiago Coast to Coast am 05-17-2011b.mov
The only way backwards is forwards until everything comes round again, but there's NO reason why it should repeat itself when there are so many other options. If you get what I'm saying...
Apart from which you would have to return back to pure energy WITHOUT information, so you wouldn't (couldn't) exist. Time travel backwards has no precedent. No, nada, zip, zilch
@ed11561 How do you explain the fact that people often have pre-emptive dreams? Or that remote viewing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to work through time as well as space? People who know about the possibilities of time-travel & the secrets remote/pre-emptive viewing/manipulation aren't so sceptical. What do you think "pre-emptive war" is really all about?
Here's another video, this one proves time travel is possible:
@Galv140577 Or that remote viewing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to work through time as well as space? OH REALLY? SEND THE PROOF HERE.SOURCED PLEASE.
BTW Discovery Channel is roof of NOTHING. They make Mythbusters & they're full of shit. hahahaha
What do you think "pre-emptive war" is really all about?
PREEMPTIVE WAR is war to TAKE OVER A COUNTRY'S CONTROL.Put your own little suckboy in power & RAPE that country of their RESOURCES.Read John Perkins-ConfessionsofanEconomicHitman
@beachcomber2008 What the fuck are you talking about? I don't believe in remote viewing or any other impossible things.But there are many things possible that people don't know about.
@ed11561 Well the mathematics of it adds up if you know what I mean. It's based on theories that have been tested.
My point is that even if it is highly speculative it doesn't matter whether you or I believe it, it matters that they believe it, the people with the power & the money, because it's them who decide what happens to us. What they want is a global government that they control so that they control the world, their world, which they already own most of, & they'll do anything to get it.
Only EIGHT PEOPLE knew all about the workings of the Iran-Contra Scheme & Nicaraguan Contra-Rebels. 8. It went on for years involved BILLIONS of $ & involved BCCI Drug running by the US Government-shipments of TONS of Cocaine to MILITARY BASES thruout the USA.All controlled by 8 SCUMBAGS.WilliamCasey(CIA),RobertMcFarlane,JohnPoindexter,OliverNorth,RichardSecord,AlbertHakim&GeorgeBUSH.All pleaded guilty&were prosecuted except for the scumbag BushSr 911 was the same type intelligence operation
Naturally people just assume that because the TV shows the fake planes hitting the exploding towers, & because they were rigged to blow plane-shaped holes for all to see afterwards then all the people who were around saw the planes too. I wonder how many people actually didn't see any planes, & how many of the liars who say they did are actually professional actors.
@ed11561 out of 500 witnesses only 10 agreed with the official version. 10 lying traitors out of 500 people is enough to make the official version official. 9/11 terrorism was hugely profitable to your own government & very costly to the so called terrorists. ALL the demands that came with the events of 9/11 came from your own government. The Patriot Act, the Iraq War & Afghanistan wars which were already in the pipeline anyway, the TSA & Gestapo style TSA, Obamatron is new Hitler. Get ready!!
@Galv140577 I know all that. The economy should be OK now that the USA has all that OPIUM & HEROIN money flowing into the banks & Wall Street.But they're still fucking it all up.
That's why they r starting war after war after war.May they all burn in hell eternally,.
@ed11561 The Nazis were doing some strange experiments at the end of WW2, trying to build anti-gravity crafts & directed energy weapons. Project paperclip allowed Nazis to go to the USA & continue their work. The US govt. has weather modification weapons, directed energy weapons, all kinds of wierd shit. On 9/11 those 3 towers turned to dust, they fucking dissolved in mid air. There was no more then a few feet of rubble actually on the ground, the basements were empty & intact. Collapse? NO WAY!
@Galv140577 On 9/11 those 3 towers turned to dust, they fucking dissolved in mid air.
I AGREE THE CONCRETE & MAJORITY OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL DID TURN TO DUST.Only thing left was the heavy steel beams.
"There was no more then a few feet of rubble actually on the ground, the basements were empty & intact"
When i went down there...there was about 30 feet high of rubble & the basements were FULL,except for very small parts-don't forget the subway was underneath & not all of it was filled.DEMO.
@ed11561 Usually when buildings are demolished the debris pile is about 12% of the original height of the building. In a "collapse" situation however there would still be an enormous lack of the energy required to turn the intact structure into debris. 30 feet of debris is about 3 stories. These were 110 stories & 47 storey buildings. That tells me that at least 3 quarters of the materials dustified & disappeared into the wind. These were no ordinary "collapses".
@Galv140577 These were no ordinary "collapses". OH I'VE KNOWN THAT FOR FUCKING YEARS.ACTUALLY AS SOON AS I SAW THE DEMOLITIONS I KNEW THAT WAS NO FUCKING PLANE HIT WITH SOME FIRES.
As a matter of fact-the towers were BARELY ON FIRE. They were almost fucking out,until all the other demo's started going off.Shit Ms.Cintron was standing in the hole the 1 plane or drone made.
@Galv140577 Only EIGHT PEOPLE knew all about the workings of the Iran-Contra Scheme & Nicaraguan Contra-RebelsIt went on for years involved BILLIONS of $&involved BCCI Drug running by the US Government-shipments of TONS of Cocaine to MILITARY BASES thruout the USA.All controlled by 8 SCUMBAGS.WilliamCasey(CIA)RobertMcFarlane,JohnPoindexter,OliverNorth,RichardSecord,AlbertHakim&GeorgeBUSH.All pleaded guilty&were prosecuted except for the scumbag BushSr911 was the same type intelligence operation
@Galv140577 "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO ALLEGIANCE and acknowledging NO RESPONSIBILITY to the people. To DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the UNHOLY ALLIANCE between CORRUPT BUSINESS and CORRUPT POLITICS is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906
IF TEDDY ROOSEVELT KNEW ABOUT ALL THESE CORRUPT BASTARDS IN 1906 or 1912. Then how far have all these bastards come since then?VERY FAR.
maybe he didnt see the plane cuz he was on the other side of the building , and its interesting he said him self he was so out of it he didnt even know he put his film in for publication this is what you would call an unreliable witness
@imbetterthanyouis or maybe your mom was hitting u so many times at your head when u was young and you became retarded..no brain just shit in your head..
@sokinisgood awwww no witty retort no evidence or counter point just straight to the insults not everyones parents are like yours , but then again it did take you 2 months to think of what you said , now go pat yor self on the back and go tell your mommy what you just did ( dont forget your helmet )
LOL I just randomly stumbled across this and noticed that EVERY comment that goes against the creator of this video has been removed. I wonder how long it will take for this one to be removed?
I know this might be breaking news but...PLANES HIT THE WTC!!! That is a pretty cool photo of the building immediately after impact though.
Look again. I do not remove comments against this theory. If a comment is voted "thumbs down" multiple times, it is hidden but not removed. But this is very simple. Watch any clip of the "planes" entering the WTCs and explain to me using physics, how there is no damage to the aluminum plane or building.
@muzicmaker2001 I have never seen so many comments hidden due to "thumbs down" before, especially for a video with only 6700 hits, and oddly enough all of the hidden comments are from people who are not truthers.
I don't know what you mean by "no damage", both the plane and the building were destroyed. But that is not what this video is about anyway, it is about a photo that doesn't prove anything one way or another, and one person saying he didn't see a plane. Very convincing...
I don’t control how many thumbs down are posted here, but most of the comments reflect a belief that a Boeing 767 did not hit the WTC. It is clear when watching any clip of the plane impacting/entering the building that there is no damage shown to the plane or building.Damage after the fact could’ve been caused by anything, including a missile or pre-planted explosives. And this video is one video of 20 parts and is not meant to be the entire arsenal of evidence.
@muzicmaker2001 0 comments that are hidden agree with you, 9 of them disagree with you. I'm done with you now though, I'm sure my comments will be hidden soon enough.
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How old are you? Really? Have you no understanding of physics. Have you ever dropped a fragile peice of glass at watch it SHATTER as it hit the ground? That's what happens when a lightweight (compared to the building) airplane slams into a building at 500 mph. There were steel columns and office materials and concrete. It is not possible for the airplane to stay in the parts you beckoned us to look for in the video. Also, the picture is clouded with smoke, and about 800 feet away.
Actually, physics (Newton's Third Law of Motion) tells us that the scenario should be the same if a steel (or concrete) wall slammed into a resting aluminum plane at 500 mph. I hope we both can agree that in that case, the aluminum plane would be crushed.
@timmartin1987 Compare this shot (minimal to no plane wreckage) to some of the earlier videos in the series. A nosecone protrudes from the side of the building opposite the impact zone with very little loss of speed. then ask yourself, how does the nose section of a 767 dissapear? Maybe houdini was the hijacker!
The plane parts would be inside the tower, the blast was following the path of least resistance, out to the right. The guy who said "...I never saw the airplane" is not saying there was not a plane - just that he didn't see it. He used the word "the" which implies he believes there was a plane, otherwise he would use "an" instead i.e "I never saw 'an' aeroplane". Also, what side of the tower was he situated.
I have a new theory there was never any twin towers they were never built it was all just a big illusion from the government millions of people were in on this from the beginning and it was all fabricated over decades just as an excuse to go to war for oil ! Let's make a video about that one someone probably will !!!
just imagine the wtc front steel wallings and the wings tips made of aluminum was merged swifly with no resistance to the building, just like a cartoon movie. there should be at least we can see from the clip that wing tips will not go inside the building or bounced back to the air some parts of it. man this is absurd really absurd!!
So uh. . .first there are no way that camera's can take pictures except for government camera's. . .and now here's a picture that proves there was no plane, derp.
Exactly he said he didnt see it however he did not say it didnt exist
Someone can come up from behind you and stab you in the back of the head You did not see the person that killed you however your broken and bleeding head proves he was there
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Oh clearly cause the blast went INTO the building. Listen, not here to hurt feelings, but is this the start of some religious cult? Is this the sign of the beast? Cause obviously the moon is made of cheese and 9/11 is fake, and Obama is a demon from hell here to kill jesus. (Which may be true). lol
OH and by the way. See the rotation of the smoke in that picture? Its called Wing Vortices and its the air that the jet cuts through, leaving behind a swirling rotation in the air that is only visible when smoke is in the air. Kinda like a mini tornadoe. This is why airports only let planes land on a single runway for say every five minutes, because the vortices stay in the air active for quite a long time.
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You all are clearly dumbasses. In fact, its quite funny to me you all believe this shit. Of course there was a plane. C'mon guys, brain washing? WTF!! Grow some balls and a brain while your at it and realize there are terrorists and that the government isn't out to get you.
There were NO planes. It all makes sense now. The fake cell phone calls, the fake witnesses to the fake planes. We've all been BRAINWASHED into thinking these were terrorists from third world countries when, in fact, it was our own government.
911 was the start to most of the current problems we are facing. People dieing due to a lie will never be "old news" to me until justice is served. Good luck to you..
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Please don't take anything i said personally, we all have a right to our opinions and obviously we all care sincerely about what happened n that day. I don't believe a conspiracy but sadly in today's wold if I heard a conspiracy was true I wouldn't be shocked.
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I personally don't believe in the conspiracy theories but they interest me so I watch and I'm open to peoples opinions and respect them but come on. No plane? The level of involvement and concealment would have to have been enormous and wihout a single leak. Are you kidding. Respect the familes who lost loved ones on those flights and those who were lost as well. I would like to here a Flight 175 victims family member respond to this theory. Panic, different angles, different cameras= theories.
Something else that's puzzled me was those planes would have been found some feet away, maybe 1/2 mile, etc. AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAD BODIES IN THEM, though badly burned. But no one has ever mentioned anything about finding those planes or bodies in those planes, especially since the planes stayed intact, meaning the bodies would have been inside the planes.
The media aired FAKE plane footages on 9/11 to justify its governments illegal invasions and murders in the Middle East. Watch SEPTEMBER CLUES on youtube to expose 9/11's fake planes!
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Ok genius
How did it get there without ANYONE noticing?
Did the A-Team put it there?
Do you know how much thermite is required to cause the damage necessary to bring the towers down? Do you have any idea the construction work necessary to place TONS of thermite on the superstructure of the towers?
No of course you dont All you know is that what Alex Jones tells you
Ah wait got it. I must have missed the mini clip at 2:24 the first time I watched it. It quite clearly shows that the photograph is indeed the entry point of the plane. So what you have here is a still image with nothing that looks remotely like plane wreckage on it. Ok ok. Conceded that's a fair point. A series of photographs at this moment would have been more conclusive but one does wonder where are the engines at least in this pic.
if you look at the picture he took, and compare it with the videos at the end, you can see that in fact the 'plane' flew right over him. so he would have not only heard the plane, but seen the plane, if it had been there.
Judging by what is in the picture and what the photog says it sounds like the shutter on the camera closed and opened in time for him to miss seeing the plane but catching the impact explosion
The initial impact was on the same side. The plane parts went either straight through, or ended up inside the building. This video is insinuating that the plane would have bounced off, as you can see by some of the author's comments here.
These no planers should learn something from Air Force 1'S photo op fly by on 4/27/09 Thousands of people saw AF1 and feared it was another attack They should "do their research" and interview the people in thee office buildings and ask them why they came pouring out of the office buildings fearing or their lives if there were no planes involved in 9/11 Ask them if they saw planes hit the WTC since the AF1 fly bye was in the same vicinity
They can start with the office workers at Goldman Sachs
When you click an SLR camera, the mirror in the camera flips up, blocking off the viewfinder to expose the film. So he naturally would not see the plane.
They were using compact cameras. Compact cameras do not use a mirror, the image they are taking is not taken through the lens, but through a viewfinder, a small lens next to the larger lens.
So, you know for a fact that every camera used was a compact camera? What about the Naudet Bros. who were making a documentary about the FDNY? Was that a compact also?
Where were the distinctly-plane parts found at the Pentagon?
From all the footage and pictures I saw, the only thing close to parts distinctly from a plane I saw was a single engine too small to have been part of the plane they say crashed.
There were bits of seats, there were bits of fuselage, which have been clearly identified as having American Airlines livery, and the remains of nearly ALL passengers and crew (apart for one baby) were recovered.
How could they possibly have found and identified the remains of all of those people?
If they were in the plane that crashed into the middle of the tower and burned hot enough to bring down the building, their organic tissue would've melted away and their bones would've been smashed up during the collapse.
I find that harder to believe than a holographic plane.
According to this Pentagon witness, they had intact bodies to extract DNA from. But, 99% of the plane dissapeared upon impact. You can't possibly believe this?
"Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him."-USA Today, 09/13/2001
Do you know where they get DNA for testing from? Inside bone marrow. They do not need all that much bone marrow, less than a gram, and they can get usable DNA. It can burnt, cooked, but you can still get some identifiable DNA from it.
So, you do believe that the majority of the plane (including the two massive steel-titanium engines) vanished when impacting the wall, but human flesh made it through intact?
The DNA is inside BONE. IT IS BONE MARROW. You know how tough human bone is? It takes far more to crush human adult bone (that is not affected by osteoporosis) than to crush the same weight of concrete.
DNA can be taken just from inside of the cheek (cells) of your mouth. Next, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe the witness account that he found passengers still strapped to their seats?
Actually, DNA exists in EVERY cell in the human body. Hair, bones, muscles, tissues, organs, fat, every single cell. They only use cheek scrapings because it is the easiest and most convenient.
And, yes, they were found strapped into their seats. Where else would they be?
That's my point. DNA can be extracted from anywhere , even hair if needed. Why did you focus on bone marrow? Using your logic, the engines are suppose to be strapped to the wings if the wings folded back. Where else could they be?
Nope, I'm saying that it is no logical that human flesh survived the impact, when two massive titanium-steel alloy engines (and 99% of the plane) did not. Next, throw into the mix the lack of just one photo/video of Flight 77 (even on the CCTV). Also, the CCTV discrepancy. Between the first and second frame, no time (secs) expired. Did time stand still?
Security cameras do not have framerates of 25 fps. They are slower than this because they have to save memory space.
And you YOURSELF said human flesh survived. You were saying something about charred bodies. That is all you need. Get into the bone marrow in the femur (the strongest bone in the body) and it is most likely to have some identifiable DNA.
Re-read the quote from Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams above. It's not from me. I don't work for USA Today. The bulk of the shots of Flight 175 were supposedly taken by Joe Normals just walking by. But, not one of Flight 77 even approachng the Pentagon. Also, security camera released that were from businesses in the area show no plane either. The time issue with the CCTV 1st and 2nd frames? No secs expires? And the bone's strength has nothing to do the probability of extracting DNA. Research.
But the DNA in those bones would have survived much better, and that is what they would have used.
The security cameras DO show planes, but they do not show them clearly, as they were low quality, low res, slow framerate, and they were not pointed in the right direction, because they were there to watch pedestrians and customers, not incoming planes.
Again, you can EASILY extract DNA from the just rubbing a swap against your cheek or from a piece of hair. I have done it. Pease stop. Also, post ANY video where you can see Flight 77. And, you keep avoiding a response on the CCTV time issue. Here it is.
Security cameras are never of good quality, they record usually on ancient VHS videotapes, the tapes are often reused over and over, and proper calibration is not really a priority.
Tell me, if you think they faked that tape, and had the technology to fake two plane crashes from multiple angles,WHY would they overlook something so simple as a time code on a security tape?I mean, it is so very very easy to photoshop 19 into 20, they would have been able to, rather easily.
This about how no time expires between the first frame and second (VHS tapes??). Even a cheapo Walmart security cam will capture time fairly accurately. And this is not surveillance for Gus' Michigan Stand, this is the Pentagon. Obviously tampered with....
This would have been a security system installed in the 80s or 90s. The video would be one frame from one camera, one frame from the next, one frame from the next, and cycling through the cameras, recording many cameras onto one VHS tape, and if there were more or fewer than 25 cameras,some seconds would be skipped.
You did not answer MY question, WHY would they, as you maintain, faked two plane crashes on tape, would they overlook something as basic as timecode on a security camera?
lol...well...people can make mistakes...so they can forget to correct the timecode ...(not saying that they did it, but saying that it is not something impossible). Many many and many well preplanned spy type operations/murders were caught because of their negligence of planning tiny details... The wing tip vortex thing is killing me...where were they ? maybe i need to see an extended version of this video..
You can see the wing vortexes in some angles. But they are hard to see, it depends on the angle and the quality of the picture and what is in the background.
The smoke in the area that the second plane flew through was not all that thick. I live under the flightpath of an international airport. The vortexes behind aircraft are only visible when it is cold enough or when it is smoggy or foggy or raining. And then they are hard to see. The weather on 911 is what they call "severe clear".
There are no vortices present in any angle of the WTCs. Post your example. Wing tip vortices are shown at diff. altitudes/temp. Since the vortices trail a winged aircraft, there should've been a disturbance in the smoke/dust cloud with the WTCs. And, their formation has nothing to do with smog, fog or when it's raining. WT?????
I LIVE under an airport flightpath. I watch lowflying 767s every day. I DO NOT SEE VORTICES unless it is foggy, rainy, or smoggy that day, and then, because of the stuff in the air, I cant see them well.
They are INVISIBLE unless there is some kind of cloud, and the pilot of that plane approached from UPWIND. (if he approached from downwind, he would not have been able to see it) therefore NO VISIBLE VORTICES.
LOL....I am not talking about the vortices before hitting the tower, that would be invisible because air is invisible, BUT, the smokes that came out of the building doesnt show any sign of coming out and spreading into a turbulent zone, it looks just asi if they are coming out of a building into normal air where it looks just fine. You dont see that in airports because you dont have smokes in airport.
lol..thats a lame question. I am still studying , not doing a job, so not listing myself as an engineer, and besides, I like guitar and music more than Aerospace Engineering and i joined youtube for musical purposes, not engineering. Get it my friend ? I am just one of those kids that hates to study...lol..thx God he pushed me this far...
The smoke from Building One was fifty to a hundred metres away from the impact in tower 2. And the far greater force would not be the vortex, but the decompression and fuel/air explosion.
The dust/smoke cloud that erupted from the building after the crash would NOT have been affected by the vortices because the force of the decompression and resulting fuel/air explosion were far greater than any vortex formed in the plane's wake. You have thousands of gallons of fuel, thousands of tons of compressed air, a huge fireball, the pressure wave was enough to blow out the lift doors in the lobby and on a few of the lower levels, the effect of any vortex AFTER impact would be negligable.
You are comparing gently rising smoke with a smoke and dust arising from explosive decompression and the resulting fuel/air blast. The overpressure wave that resulted would have completely overwhelmed it.
Gently rising? A bomb was just dropped. This was an explosion. The WTC dust/smoke cloud that formed a few seconds after impact was not violent at all. Also, the pressure wave was moving inwards and the immediate smoke cloud was not affected by it?? So logically, the trailing vortices would not be either.
The ones that commented on my comments.Very scary these are the ones out there protecting us.1st. the 100 STORY building wasn't made up all glass RETARD.Rules of our nation under attack(Last timed i checked)was 1st. thing is to get our Pres.to safety no matter what.They said the planes was going about 400 to 500.Talked to someone that builds these planes and max speed at that level would be no more than 250.Anything to try to hide the TRUTH...
sonnyboyy1974 1 month ago
@sonnyboyy1974 lol 400 to 500 what knots miles kilometres feet meters light years ?? since you didnt elaborate i call bullshit on you speaking to an aircraft builder , aircraft gather speed while descending thanks to a groovy little thing called gravity , the last time i checked the penny didnt drop till after the second plane hit the towers its up to the secret service to define a safe place and that school was at the time safer than af1
imbetterthanyouis 1 month ago
@sonnyboyy1974 oh and by the way the twin towers were 110 stories and no one said they were made of glass another research fail there fucknuckle!
imbetterthanyouis 1 month ago
Before anyone leaves comments on something you don't know about"DO YOUR RESEARCH 1st."1.Planes can't fly at that speed at that height.200 not 450 they would tear apart.Open your eyes and block out what they told you that day on the News and really ask how and why did a lot of stuff didn't happen if it did To try to stop it.I think a hour and half to go by and all this is happening."WHERE THE FUCK WAS OUR AIR-FORCE"and WHY WAS THE PRES. NOT TAKING TO SAFETY.Anytime before under attack that's 1st
sonnyboyy1974 1 month ago 4
@sonnyboyy1974 lol "WHY WAS THE PRES. NOT TAKING TO SAFETY." so youre side makes the case that the pilots involved were so shit at flying they shouldnt have been able to hit any of theyre targets , but then say that they were shit hot enough to hit a school in the middle of nowhere that isnt marked on charts just by dead reckoning something of a bit of an acquired skill
imbetterthanyouis 1 month ago
@sonnyboyy1974 and why would you move the president ? you already assume he would be moved , to where ? airforce 1 which would be an easily found target , or drive the motorcade in a multitude of directions utilising its decoys , you would throw an operation like that directly in the too hard basket if he wasnt the first target he was never going to be one , oh and 40 yo b52's fly at low level and high speed all the time ! do youre research waahhh!
imbetterthanyouis 1 month ago
Some evaluation! He didn't see the plane because from the angle he took that picture the plane came in on the opposite side of the building meaning the view was blocked! A plane flying that fast would not be noticed by lots of people especially since there are tall building in the way. After all, he would have to fly in low to the hit the tower in the first place. Try again!
mikebeange 1 month ago
@mikebeange
"A plane flying that fast would not be noticed by lots of people "
watch?v=QRpcIZBSAfU
muzicmaker2001 1 month ago 2
yeah on reflection that was the exit blast no wonder he didnt see the plane ,,just more twoofer something about nothing
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis
Use the North Tower's location (behind the South) as a reference. Its the impact location. And i don't know what a twoofer is, but research before calling somebody one.
muzicmaker2001 4 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis sigh... i guess we have to keep suspending reality and insist that aluminum cuts through steel and creates "exit blasts"?
mfrank165 1 month ago
@mfrank165 well why the hell not a piece of straw can pierce a palm tree in a hurricane, water is weaker than steel and aluminium but at a high enough velocity it can cut steel to great precision but anyway ill just suspend reality and pretend the plane would have comically bounced off harmlessly aye
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planes hit the towers end story
911wikileaks 4 months ago
I'm not an expert but it looks like that fireball is a exploding fuel tank and the white above it looks like a wing tip. I think the planes hit, they had to. The towers fell to controlled explosives not aircraft.
coffeehousecomics 4 months ago
For remote viewing look up Ingo Swann.
yogbert 5 months ago
@ed11561 @beachcomber2008 If you want to know more about remote viewing or precognitive dreaming you need only search the terms:
How Remote Viewing Works: Dr. Simeon Hein Pt. 1
watch?v=sN9nIMgdpuw
Galv140577 5 months ago
Throughout history, fake pictures have been given to highly willing and gullible audiences..... the same is true on 9/11 videos. Still, the complicity of the network news (and their poor regard for physics) will never be obvious to many who can never awaken from their bubble of false reality, no matter how hard we try. Regardless, we must continue to expose the obvious shabby and inconsistent graphics. Future generations need to know not everyone fell for the lies.
dobbsjhf 5 months ago
What a dumb video.THE PLANE EXPLODED INTO THE BUILDING FOLKS. No mystery here.Why the fuck would you see any plane parts ON THIS SIDE ANYWAY??/
Fucking dumb. BTW there WERE PARTS on the other side-landing gear & part of the engine landed blocks away.
NO PLANERS are disinfo morons.
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 You wouldn't believe it, but a lot of folks think the plane wasn't there
Apparently it wasn't there BECAUSE it went straight in and REAL planes bounce off
At the Gunfight at the OK Corral, they fired bullets that were SLOWER than this airplane,
but they went through things because they were BULLETS, not because they were FAST
Time travel these buggers back to persuade the Japs that their Kamikaze planes weren't going to sink hundreds of ships and kill thousands of men
No planes? Please!
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008 Really. To think a plane would have bounced off is ridiculous.There was some other asshole who said that the 3000 names were made up & all those people at 911 are fucking ACTORS. Stupidity on these bastards.
I think half of them are dis-info agents like these.
dailymail . co . uk/news/article-1367535/U-S-military-using-fake-online-profiles-spread-propaganda.html
cadu1995 5 months ago
@cadu1995 The Daily Mail is like Fox News and one day they'll go the way of the News of the World
Hearing that go was like the fall of the Berlin Wall the end of a lifetime of shit on display every Sunday
And I mean a lifetime...
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
What a piece of shit
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
Hmmm..Interesting theory...
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 No plane here either
watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk
Shit...
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
But both WTC planes entered the building with no visible damage to the plane or building. They didn't disintegrate against them as shown in the clip you posted??
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 "No visible damage" - except 50-yard holes on the impact side. and bits missing from the opposite side too? Whatever you smoke. I'd like a piece of...
"They didn't disintegrate" because the towers weren't made of 5 foot thick blocks of reinforced concrete, but instead 14 inch square hollow sections of 5/16 inch steel sheet, & the impact energy of the aircraft, equivalent to 1.5 tons TNT, OUTPOWERED 50 yards of those box beams with almost enough spare to DO IT AGAIN the other side
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
Nothing to smoke. Just a working set of eyes is all you need. I actually meant damage to the plane (compressed nose, falling debris??) and building at impact, not after the fact. But, note how the plane impact and the creation of the plane shaped hole are two diffferent events. Meaning pre-planted explosives were used to create the hole.
watch?v=wkZKOqYMbXo
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 "two different events" - only if you have a split personality
Images of the hole were captured in sharp detail by well-placed still picture cameras, whereas images captured by EVERY amateur video were SO BADLY BLURRED by being hand-held, low in contrast because of being telephoto, and so video-compressed, they had "removed" the tower windows
Don't pretend to me that the hole didn't exist after impact
NO exterior column broken ends point OUTWARD, but some point IN
Your BANG sucks
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
I'm kinda getting the impresson that you seem some high stake or motive in defending this? Some would call it an angenda? I'm just sayiing...
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Aeroengineering & industrial design were my professions & remain my interests now I'm retired
It's hot in the Canaries & in the shade it's worth doing something worthwhile 2 pass the time
There probably ARE conspiracies out there, but U'll never know while wasting time with this, or chemtrails, or ufos etc. They're FALSE
Better for all of us if such efforts went 2 test & clean poisoned ground water, plant trees, stop consuming petro products, stop using the dollar
Just saying...
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
Since you do around on multiple pages related to 911 defending the OV, I will "definitely" take that under consideration. I've met many like this on here. So, just a hobby then?
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
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@muzicmaker2001 Check my channel, check jazzroc. wordpress. com/about, check Soundclick/Beachcomber, check Myspace/JazzRoc check Google. I am what it says on the tin
DO you make music?
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Like yours. Well, come to think of it, NOT like yours.
Your hobby seems to be an interest in something you don't understand - Physics, Reason, Logic
Whereas MY hobby is an interest in people that have hobbies they don't understand, like YOU
I mean, you're working really hard to tell people lies just because you don't understand things
And your topic is all about fear and ignorance. There's actually LESS fear in the world when truthers STOP talking, and LESS ignorance too
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
My agenda is to expose the truth. Your "hobby" is to defend the OV no matter what. And why do all debunkers assume that anyone wants to hear their version of physics, logic or reasoning. Yes, i am just waiting to hear this...Either post your credentials as an aviation expert, engineer, etc or you're just not another random guy on YT, right?
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 "My agenda is to expose the truth" - U've exposed NONE, except what U truly don't understand. U actually spread lies & fear, & cloud truth
"defend the OV no matter what." - U don't know what the OV is. If U did U couldn't find a reasonable argument against it, for there's none
'A' level Maths, Physics, Chem, HNC Mech Eng, Degree 3-D Industrial Eng Des and 38 years professional experience in aviation & design. Of course Ud know that if U'd followed my ref
Post Urs, let's compare..
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008
Dude, this is YT. Everyone is an expert. With your "advanced" credentials, why the need to defend this on YT?
muzicmaker2001 5 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 Why the need to make this video in the first place?
If you REALLY believe that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance, why haven't you realized that
"vigilance" begins at HOME?
It is YOU that has to be vigilant against your own powers of self-deception - a GROUND RULE for scientific inquiry
Physical evidence & reasoned logic have built our technological world,
But it CAN disappear within a generation or two if you like, & return to a feudal world of fear, hunger & death
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO ALLEGIANCE and acknowledging NO RESPONSIBILITY to the people. To DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the UNHOLY ALLIANCE between CORRUPT BUSINESS and CORRUPT POLITICS is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906
IF TEDDY ROOSEVELT KNEW ABOUT ALL THESE CORRUPT BASTARDS IN 1906 or 1912. Then how far have all these bastards come in the last HUNDRED YEARS?
ed11561 7 months ago
@ed11561 Do you know that when Bush said he'd seen the first plane hitting the tower on TV that morning even though it wasn't aired until the next day, he might have accidentally been telling the truth?...
DARPA has a technology that let's them see through time...
They could be surveiling you from anywhere & any point in time without you knowing, just like in that film called "Dé·jà vu"
DARPA & TIME TRAVEL Andrew D. Basiago Coast to Coast am 05-17-2011b.mov
watch?v=RpcpuU1p_VA
Galv140577 7 months ago
@Galv140577 Bush was just plain lying like he always did.
Darpa & time travel?? \Not too sure about that 1 dude. I know there are many conspiracies but time travel? I don't think so.
ed11561 7 months ago
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beachcomber2008 5 months ago
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@ed11561 Time is a forward arrow
Causality is a FIRST principle
The only way backwards is forwards until everything comes round again, but there's NO reason why it should repeat itself when there are so many other options. If you get what I'm saying...
Apart from which you would have to return back to pure energy WITHOUT information, so you wouldn't (couldn't) exist. Time travel backwards has no precedent. No, nada, zip, zilch
Immortality is as reachable as infinity
(That's enough crap) - ed.
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@Galv140577 Please......lol Time travel? lol
BTW Bush has never told the truth in his life.Lying alchoholic fuck.
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 How do you explain the fact that people often have pre-emptive dreams? Or that remote viewing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to work through time as well as space? People who know about the possibilities of time-travel & the secrets remote/pre-emptive viewing/manipulation aren't so sceptical. What do you think "pre-emptive war" is really all about?
Here's another video, this one proves time travel is possible:
Discovery - First Time Machine
watch?v=oRWwI61so5Q
Galv140577 5 months ago
@Galv140577 Or that remote viewing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to work through time as well as space? OH REALLY? SEND THE PROOF HERE.SOURCED PLEASE.
BTW Discovery Channel is roof of NOTHING. They make Mythbusters & they're full of shit. hahahaha
What do you think "pre-emptive war" is really all about?
PREEMPTIVE WAR is war to TAKE OVER A COUNTRY'S CONTROL.Put your own little suckboy in power & RAPE that country of their RESOURCES.Read John Perkins-ConfessionsofanEconomicHitman
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 "remote viewing" only works for gullible morons
Everyone else knows there's no magic
While you believe in impossible things you'll achieve precisely NOTHING
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008 What the fuck are you talking about? I don't believe in remote viewing or any other impossible things.But there are many things possible that people don't know about.
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 Compared with an INFINITY of impossible things no-one knows ANYTHING about... So?
Any more preposterous points?
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@beachcomber2008 Any more preposterous points?
You're the one with the market cornered on that buddy.
ed11561 5 months ago
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@ed11561 "there are many things possible that people don't know about"
So there are. But where's any link to this topic in the above statement of yours?
What is it you are trying to say?
beachcomber2008 5 months ago
@Galv140577 pre-emptive dreams?
ed11561 5 months ago
@Galv140577 Dude that's all highly speculative THEORY. Not proven fact guy.
ed11561 5 months ago
@ed11561 Well the mathematics of it adds up if you know what I mean. It's based on theories that have been tested.
My point is that even if it is highly speculative it doesn't matter whether you or I believe it, it matters that they believe it, the people with the power & the money, because it's them who decide what happens to us. What they want is a global government that they control so that they control the world, their world, which they already own most of, & they'll do anything to get it.
Galv140577 5 months ago
Only EIGHT PEOPLE knew all about the workings of the Iran-Contra Scheme & Nicaraguan Contra-Rebels. 8. It went on for years involved BILLIONS of $ & involved BCCI Drug running by the US Government-shipments of TONS of Cocaine to MILITARY BASES thruout the USA.All controlled by 8 SCUMBAGS.WilliamCasey(CIA),RobertMcFarlane,JohnPoindexter,OliverNorth,RichardSecord,AlbertHakim&GeorgeBUSH.All pleaded guilty&were prosecuted except for the scumbag BushSr 911 was the same type intelligence operation
ed11561 7 months ago
Naturally people just assume that because the TV shows the fake planes hitting the exploding towers, & because they were rigged to blow plane-shaped holes for all to see afterwards then all the people who were around saw the planes too. I wonder how many people actually didn't see any planes, & how many of the liars who say they did are actually professional actors.
Galv140577 7 months ago
@Galv140577 Sure ALL OF DOWNTOWN NYC WERE ACTORS......LMFAO.
ed11561 7 months ago
@ed11561 out of 500 witnesses only 10 agreed with the official version. 10 lying traitors out of 500 people is enough to make the official version official. 9/11 terrorism was hugely profitable to your own government & very costly to the so called terrorists. ALL the demands that came with the events of 9/11 came from your own government. The Patriot Act, the Iraq War & Afghanistan wars which were already in the pipeline anyway, the TSA & Gestapo style TSA, Obamatron is new Hitler. Get ready!!
Galv140577 7 months ago
@Galv140577 I know all that. The economy should be OK now that the USA has all that OPIUM & HEROIN money flowing into the banks & Wall Street.But they're still fucking it all up.
That's why they r starting war after war after war.May they all burn in hell eternally,.
ed11561 7 months ago
@ed11561 The Nazis were doing some strange experiments at the end of WW2, trying to build anti-gravity crafts & directed energy weapons. Project paperclip allowed Nazis to go to the USA & continue their work. The US govt. has weather modification weapons, directed energy weapons, all kinds of wierd shit. On 9/11 those 3 towers turned to dust, they fucking dissolved in mid air. There was no more then a few feet of rubble actually on the ground, the basements were empty & intact. Collapse? NO WAY!
Galv140577 7 months ago
@Galv140577 On 9/11 those 3 towers turned to dust, they fucking dissolved in mid air.
I AGREE THE CONCRETE & MAJORITY OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL DID TURN TO DUST.Only thing left was the heavy steel beams.
"There was no more then a few feet of rubble actually on the ground, the basements were empty & intact"
When i went down there...there was about 30 feet high of rubble & the basements were FULL,except for very small parts-don't forget the subway was underneath & not all of it was filled.DEMO.
ed11561 7 months ago
@ed11561 Usually when buildings are demolished the debris pile is about 12% of the original height of the building. In a "collapse" situation however there would still be an enormous lack of the energy required to turn the intact structure into debris. 30 feet of debris is about 3 stories. These were 110 stories & 47 storey buildings. That tells me that at least 3 quarters of the materials dustified & disappeared into the wind. These were no ordinary "collapses".
Galv140577 7 months ago
@Galv140577 These were no ordinary "collapses". OH I'VE KNOWN THAT FOR FUCKING YEARS.ACTUALLY AS SOON AS I SAW THE DEMOLITIONS I KNEW THAT WAS NO FUCKING PLANE HIT WITH SOME FIRES.
As a matter of fact-the towers were BARELY ON FIRE. They were almost fucking out,until all the other demo's started going off.Shit Ms.Cintron was standing in the hole the 1 plane or drone made.
911 WAS DEFINITELY AN INSIDE JOB.
ed11561 7 months ago
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@Galv140577 Only EIGHT PEOPLE knew all about the workings of the Iran-Contra Scheme & Nicaraguan Contra-RebelsIt went on for years involved BILLIONS of $&involved BCCI Drug running by the US Government-shipments of TONS of Cocaine to MILITARY BASES thruout the USA.All controlled by 8 SCUMBAGS.WilliamCasey(CIA)RobertMcFarlane,JohnPoindexter,OliverNorth,RichardSecord,AlbertHakim&GeorgeBUSH.All pleaded guilty&were prosecuted except for the scumbag BushSr911 was the same type intelligence operation
ed11561 7 months ago
@Galv140577 "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing NO ALLEGIANCE and acknowledging NO RESPONSIBILITY to the people. To DESTROY THIS INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the UNHOLY ALLIANCE between CORRUPT BUSINESS and CORRUPT POLITICS is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906
IF TEDDY ROOSEVELT KNEW ABOUT ALL THESE CORRUPT BASTARDS IN 1906 or 1912. Then how far have all these bastards come since then?VERY FAR.
ed11561 7 months ago
maybe he didnt see the plane cuz he was on the other side of the building , and its interesting he said him self he was so out of it he didnt even know he put his film in for publication this is what you would call an unreliable witness
imbetterthanyouis 9 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis
That is the impacted side of the building. The plane supposedly hit right above him but he didn't see it.
muzicmaker2001 9 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 well he still couldnt recolect what happened till the next day , unreliable witness
imbetterthanyouis 9 months ago
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sokinisgood 7 months ago
@imbetterthanyouis or maybe your mom was hitting u so many times at your head when u was young and you became retarded..no brain just shit in your head..
sokinisgood 7 months ago
@sokinisgood awwww no witty retort no evidence or counter point just straight to the insults not everyones parents are like yours , but then again it did take you 2 months to think of what you said , now go pat yor self on the back and go tell your mommy what you just did ( dont forget your helmet )
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@sokinisgood yeah on reflection that was the exit blast no wonder he didnt see the plane ,,just more twoofer something about nothing
imbetterthanyouis 4 months ago
Well to be honest I see lots of stuff that could be part of a plane after it crashes?
streetpartying 10 months ago
@streetpartying yeah how can you say for sure there isnt any plane parts there i agree
imbetterthanyouis 9 months ago
LOL I just randomly stumbled across this and noticed that EVERY comment that goes against the creator of this video has been removed. I wonder how long it will take for this one to be removed?
I know this might be breaking news but...PLANES HIT THE WTC!!! That is a pretty cool photo of the building immediately after impact though.
Meeksgoo 11 months ago
@Meeksgoo
Look again. I do not remove comments against this theory. If a comment is voted "thumbs down" multiple times, it is hidden but not removed. But this is very simple. Watch any clip of the "planes" entering the WTCs and explain to me using physics, how there is no damage to the aluminum plane or building.
watch?v=r5o_-KItOZU
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 I have never seen so many comments hidden due to "thumbs down" before, especially for a video with only 6700 hits, and oddly enough all of the hidden comments are from people who are not truthers.
I don't know what you mean by "no damage", both the plane and the building were destroyed. But that is not what this video is about anyway, it is about a photo that doesn't prove anything one way or another, and one person saying he didn't see a plane. Very convincing...
Meeksgoo 11 months ago
@Meeksgoo
I don’t control how many thumbs down are posted here, but most of the comments reflect a belief that a Boeing 767 did not hit the WTC. It is clear when watching any clip of the plane impacting/entering the building that there is no damage shown to the plane or building.Damage after the fact could’ve been caused by anything, including a missile or pre-planted explosives. And this video is one video of 20 parts and is not meant to be the entire arsenal of evidence.
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago
@muzicmaker2001 0 comments that are hidden agree with you, 9 of them disagree with you. I'm done with you now though, I'm sure my comments will be hidden soon enough.
Meeksgoo 11 months ago
@Meeksgoo
Yes, thumbs down usually means people disagree with the statement. Again, I don't control them but good luck on your comments.
muzicmaker2001 11 months ago
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How old are you? Really? Have you no understanding of physics. Have you ever dropped a fragile peice of glass at watch it SHATTER as it hit the ground? That's what happens when a lightweight (compared to the building) airplane slams into a building at 500 mph. There were steel columns and office materials and concrete. It is not possible for the airplane to stay in the parts you beckoned us to look for in the video. Also, the picture is clouded with smoke, and about 800 feet away.
timmartin1987 1 year ago
@timmartin1987
Actually, physics (Newton's Third Law of Motion) tells us that the scenario should be the same if a steel (or concrete) wall slammed into a resting aluminum plane at 500 mph. I hope we both can agree that in that case, the aluminum plane would be crushed.
muzicmaker2001 1 year ago
@timmartin1987 Compare this shot (minimal to no plane wreckage) to some of the earlier videos in the series. A nosecone protrudes from the side of the building opposite the impact zone with very little loss of speed. then ask yourself, how does the nose section of a 767 dissapear? Maybe houdini was the hijacker!
RUready4theBASS 1 year ago
The plane parts would be inside the tower, the blast was following the path of least resistance, out to the right. The guy who said "...I never saw the airplane" is not saying there was not a plane - just that he didn't see it. He used the word "the" which implies he believes there was a plane, otherwise he would use "an" instead i.e "I never saw 'an' aeroplane". Also, what side of the tower was he situated.
Jeorney 1 year ago
I have a new theory there was never any twin towers they were never built it was all just a big illusion from the government millions of people were in on this from the beginning and it was all fabricated over decades just as an excuse to go to war for oil ! Let's make a video about that one someone probably will !!!
jones666jones 1 year ago
Thats the side the plane went in. Dick!
gnerry 1 year ago
@gnerry
no shit
seeknthetruth 1 year ago
just imagine the wtc front steel wallings and the wings tips made of aluminum was merged swifly with no resistance to the building, just like a cartoon movie. there should be at least we can see from the clip that wing tips will not go inside the building or bounced back to the air some parts of it. man this is absurd really absurd!!
KelvongKlein 1 year ago
where's the fucking wreckage of that airplane biaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatch
concussedcarneous 1 year ago 4
I'll find plane parts, inside the smoke and fire and building with my x-ray vision..
Spazmaztic 1 year ago
@Spazmaztic
I don't think x-ray vision was needed. Just two ears to hear a low flying 767, right?
muzicmaker2001 1 year ago
These videos are amazing, you did a very great job with these. I watched them all, it's good to see some intelligence on YouTube for once...
KingDavison23 1 year ago 2
0:24...i see a hand with his thumb down?
kyleterence 1 year ago
So uh. . .first there are no way that camera's can take pictures except for government camera's. . .and now here's a picture that proves there was no plane, derp.
GothicJump 1 year ago
It looks like an exit wound of something like a incendiary* round or something, or like a round leaving a barrel of a gun, or something o_0
SomeStrangeCritter 1 year ago
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The plane is IN the building, you idiot.
jnoort 2 years ago
I think the overall point here is he didn't see a plane (low flying 767??) approaching or impact the Tower.
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
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Yes... And do you expect me to believe all eye witness accounts at the same time?
jnoort 2 years ago
isnt it strange that the people that witness the planes all happen to work for the News Media.
EvilWarlock666 1 year ago 6
Exactly he said he didnt see it however he did not say it didnt exist
Someone can come up from behind you and stab you in the back of the head You did not see the person that killed you however your broken and bleeding head proves he was there
SWEP2AOTC2002 1 year ago
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Oh clearly cause the blast went INTO the building. Listen, not here to hurt feelings, but is this the start of some religious cult? Is this the sign of the beast? Cause obviously the moon is made of cheese and 9/11 is fake, and Obama is a demon from hell here to kill jesus. (Which may be true). lol
coltong400 2 years ago
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Wing vortices can be broken by large blasts that creat shockwaves.
coltong400 2 years ago
A bomb is dropped...
(frame 1:35):
watch?v=Xlj1mVD2-HM
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
OH and by the way. See the rotation of the smoke in that picture? Its called Wing Vortices and its the air that the jet cuts through, leaving behind a swirling rotation in the air that is only visible when smoke is in the air. Kinda like a mini tornadoe. This is why airports only let planes land on a single runway for say every five minutes, because the vortices stay in the air active for quite a long time.
coltong400 2 years ago
watch?v=2GUv2ySZ1TM
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
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@coltong400
Now you are just using logic and evidence, Muzic can't allow that
Denierbud11 1 year ago
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You all are clearly dumbasses. In fact, its quite funny to me you all believe this shit. Of course there was a plane. C'mon guys, brain washing? WTF!! Grow some balls and a brain while your at it and realize there are terrorists and that the government isn't out to get you.
coltong400 2 years ago
There were NO planes. It all makes sense now. The fake cell phone calls, the fake witnesses to the fake planes. We've all been BRAINWASHED into thinking these were terrorists from third world countries when, in fact, it was our own government.
RxReal 2 years ago 10
911 was the start to most of the current problems we are facing. People dieing due to a lie will never be "old news" to me until justice is served. Good luck to you..
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
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Please don't take anything i said personally, we all have a right to our opinions and obviously we all care sincerely about what happened n that day. I don't believe a conspiracy but sadly in today's wold if I heard a conspiracy was true I wouldn't be shocked.
MrYahoost 2 years ago
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I personally don't believe in the conspiracy theories but they interest me so I watch and I'm open to peoples opinions and respect them but come on. No plane? The level of involvement and concealment would have to have been enormous and wihout a single leak. Are you kidding. Respect the familes who lost loved ones on those flights and those who were lost as well. I would like to here a Flight 175 victims family member respond to this theory. Panic, different angles, different cameras= theories.
MrYahoost 2 years ago
Something else that's puzzled me was those planes would have been found some feet away, maybe 1/2 mile, etc. AND THEY WOULD HAVE HAD BODIES IN THEM, though badly burned. But no one has ever mentioned anything about finding those planes or bodies in those planes, especially since the planes stayed intact, meaning the bodies would have been inside the planes.
godsfiddler 2 years ago
Fuck and kill despunkers!!
matti1080 2 years ago
The media aired FAKE plane footages on 9/11 to justify its governments illegal invasions and murders in the Middle East. Watch SEPTEMBER CLUES on youtube to expose 9/11's fake planes!
hankwheels 2 years ago 34
I can't belive that so many people still buy that story. 9/11 was INSIDE JOB!
Mesina2 2 years ago 34
Nano thermite discovered in WTC dust.
utubelurkr 2 years ago 12
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Ok genius
How did it get there without ANYONE noticing?
Did the A-Team put it there?
Do you know how much thermite is required to cause the damage necessary to bring the towers down? Do you have any idea the construction work necessary to place TONS of thermite on the superstructure of the towers?
No of course you dont All you know is that what Alex Jones tells you
SWEP2AOTC2002 2 years ago
pssst, I think it was Osama. He's very smart. Smart enough to elude our military for the last 8 years.
seeknthetruth 2 years ago 2
Is that not the exit point of the impact?
sillybuttons44 2 years ago
No. Use the North Tower's location (behind the South) as a reference. Here's the impact.
watch?v=UUT7yup-YIg
watch?v=2lOcEOsmAtA
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Ah wait got it. I must have missed the mini clip at 2:24 the first time I watched it. It quite clearly shows that the photograph is indeed the entry point of the plane. So what you have here is a still image with nothing that looks remotely like plane wreckage on it. Ok ok. Conceded that's a fair point. A series of photographs at this moment would have been more conclusive but one does wonder where are the engines at least in this pic.
sillybuttons44 2 years ago
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of course hit didnt see the plane he was on the oppsite side of the building of were the plane hit duh
gonnie75 2 years ago
if you look at the picture he took, and compare it with the videos at the end, you can see that in fact the 'plane' flew right over him. so he would have not only heard the plane, but seen the plane, if it had been there.
speters17 2 years ago 3
Judging by what is in the picture and what the photog says it sounds like the shutter on the camera closed and opened in time for him to miss seeing the plane but catching the impact explosion
ROTS2005 2 years ago
Try telling that to the truthers. I tried... Whenever you say something that conflicts with their theory, it is "proof" of a further coverup.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
If there was no plane the what was the noise he head before the explosion? Birds? The Cloverfield Monster?
ROTS2005 2 years ago
hehehhe...lol
well...it can be a missile as well...i wish i was witnessing it live in the spot....
dhakagod 2 years ago
If a plane leaves a vortex, then so would a cruise missile. Using muzicmakers logic, no vortex = no projectile of any kind.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Can I find any plane parts?
What is that flying away from the building? Can you say they are not plane parts?
The rest of the plane parts are in the building
ROTS2005 2 years ago
The initial impact was on the same side. The plane parts went either straight through, or ended up inside the building. This video is insinuating that the plane would have bounced off, as you can see by some of the author's comments here.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
These no planers should learn something from Air Force 1'S photo op fly by on 4/27/09 Thousands of people saw AF1 and feared it was another attack They should "do their research" and interview the people in thee office buildings and ask them why they came pouring out of the office buildings fearing or their lives if there were no planes involved in 9/11 Ask them if they saw planes hit the WTC since the AF1 fly bye was in the same vicinity
They can start with the office workers at Goldman Sachs
ROTS2005 2 years ago
When you click an SLR camera, the mirror in the camera flips up, blocking off the viewfinder to expose the film. So he naturally would not see the plane.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
This SLR phenomenon somehow didn't affect the many other amatuers who captured the plane image from ground level with no problems???
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
They were using compact cameras. Compact cameras do not use a mirror, the image they are taking is not taken through the lens, but through a viewfinder, a small lens next to the larger lens.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
So, you know for a fact that every camera used was a compact camera? What about the Naudet Bros. who were making a documentary about the FDNY? Was that a compact also?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
No, they were video cameras. What are you trying to prove here? You are simply trying to confuse the issue now.
The fact is,that you are trying to tell us all that there were no planes.This is patently untrue. But if you insist,please enlighten us all:
Why would they fake four plane crashes when it would be cheaper, easier and less risky to crash four planes?
How was this done?
Who did this?
And why was it all done in the first place?
Without explaining this, it is too ludicrous.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Where were the distinctly-plane parts found at the Pentagon?
From all the footage and pictures I saw, the only thing close to parts distinctly from a plane I saw was a single engine too small to have been part of the plane they say crashed.
sexiw0lf 2 years ago
There were bits of seats, there were bits of fuselage, which have been clearly identified as having American Airlines livery, and the remains of nearly ALL passengers and crew (apart for one baby) were recovered.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
How could they possibly have found and identified the remains of all of those people?
If they were in the plane that crashed into the middle of the tower and burned hot enough to bring down the building, their organic tissue would've melted away and their bones would've been smashed up during the collapse.
I find that harder to believe than a holographic plane.
sexiw0lf 2 years ago
I was talking about the Pentagon. The remains were identified by DNA.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
According to this Pentagon witness, they had intact bodies to extract DNA from. But, 99% of the plane dissapeared upon impact. You can't possibly believe this?
"Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him."-USA Today, 09/13/2001
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Do you know where they get DNA for testing from? Inside bone marrow. They do not need all that much bone marrow, less than a gram, and they can get usable DNA. It can burnt, cooked, but you can still get some identifiable DNA from it.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
So, you do believe that the majority of the plane (including the two massive steel-titanium engines) vanished when impacting the wall, but human flesh made it through intact?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
The DNA is inside BONE. IT IS BONE MARROW. You know how tough human bone is? It takes far more to crush human adult bone (that is not affected by osteoporosis) than to crush the same weight of concrete.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
DNA can be taken just from inside of the cheek (cells) of your mouth. Next, you didn't answer the question. Do you believe the witness account that he found passengers still strapped to their seats?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Actually, DNA exists in EVERY cell in the human body. Hair, bones, muscles, tissues, organs, fat, every single cell. They only use cheek scrapings because it is the easiest and most convenient.
And, yes, they were found strapped into their seats. Where else would they be?
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
That's my point. DNA can be extracted from anywhere , even hair if needed. Why did you focus on bone marrow? Using your logic, the engines are suppose to be strapped to the wings if the wings folded back. Where else could they be?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
So... you are saying that because DNA can be extracted from anywhere, this means no planes crashed into the Pentagon? What is your reasoning?
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Nope, I'm saying that it is no logical that human flesh survived the impact, when two massive titanium-steel alloy engines (and 99% of the plane) did not. Next, throw into the mix the lack of just one photo/video of Flight 77 (even on the CCTV). Also, the CCTV discrepancy. Between the first and second frame, no time (secs) expired. Did time stand still?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Security cameras do not have framerates of 25 fps. They are slower than this because they have to save memory space.
And you YOURSELF said human flesh survived. You were saying something about charred bodies. That is all you need. Get into the bone marrow in the femur (the strongest bone in the body) and it is most likely to have some identifiable DNA.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Re-read the quote from Army Staff Sgt. Mark Williams above. It's not from me. I don't work for USA Today. The bulk of the shots of Flight 175 were supposedly taken by Joe Normals just walking by. But, not one of Flight 77 even approachng the Pentagon. Also, security camera released that were from businesses in the area show no plane either. The time issue with the CCTV 1st and 2nd frames? No secs expires? And the bone's strength has nothing to do the probability of extracting DNA. Research.
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
But the DNA in those bones would have survived much better, and that is what they would have used.
The security cameras DO show planes, but they do not show them clearly, as they were low quality, low res, slow framerate, and they were not pointed in the right direction, because they were there to watch pedestrians and customers, not incoming planes.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Again, you can EASILY extract DNA from the just rubbing a swap against your cheek or from a piece of hair. I have done it. Pease stop. Also, post ANY video where you can see Flight 77. And, you keep avoiding a response on the CCTV time issue. Here it is.
1st Frame: 17:37:19
2nd Frame: 17:37:19 (no secs expire)
3rd Frame: 17:37:21 (2 secs expire)
Your explanation?
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
Security cameras are never of good quality, they record usually on ancient VHS videotapes, the tapes are often reused over and over, and proper calibration is not really a priority.
Tell me, if you think they faked that tape, and had the technology to fake two plane crashes from multiple angles,WHY would they overlook something so simple as a time code on a security tape?I mean, it is so very very easy to photoshop 19 into 20, they would have been able to, rather easily.
Now YOU explain it.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
This about how no time expires between the first frame and second (VHS tapes??). Even a cheapo Walmart security cam will capture time fairly accurately. And this is not surveillance for Gus' Michigan Stand, this is the Pentagon. Obviously tampered with....
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
This would have been a security system installed in the 80s or 90s. The video would be one frame from one camera, one frame from the next, one frame from the next, and cycling through the cameras, recording many cameras onto one VHS tape, and if there were more or fewer than 25 cameras,some seconds would be skipped.
You did not answer MY question, WHY would they, as you maintain, faked two plane crashes on tape, would they overlook something as basic as timecode on a security camera?
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
lol...well...people can make mistakes...so they can forget to correct the timecode ...(not saying that they did it, but saying that it is not something impossible). Many many and many well preplanned spy type operations/murders were caught because of their negligence of planning tiny details... The wing tip vortex thing is killing me...where were they ? maybe i need to see an extended version of this video..
dhakagod 2 years ago
You can see the wing vortexes in some angles. But they are hard to see, it depends on the angle and the quality of the picture and what is in the background.
The smoke in the area that the second plane flew through was not all that thick. I live under the flightpath of an international airport. The vortexes behind aircraft are only visible when it is cold enough or when it is smoggy or foggy or raining. And then they are hard to see. The weather on 911 is what they call "severe clear".
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
There are no vortices present in any angle of the WTCs. Post your example. Wing tip vortices are shown at diff. altitudes/temp. Since the vortices trail a winged aircraft, there should've been a disturbance in the smoke/dust cloud with the WTCs. And, their formation has nothing to do with smog, fog or when it's raining. WT?????
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
I LIVE under an airport flightpath. I watch lowflying 767s every day. I DO NOT SEE VORTICES unless it is foggy, rainy, or smoggy that day, and then, because of the stuff in the air, I cant see them well.
They are INVISIBLE unless there is some kind of cloud, and the pilot of that plane approached from UPWIND. (if he approached from downwind, he would not have been able to see it) therefore NO VISIBLE VORTICES.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
LOL....I am not talking about the vortices before hitting the tower, that would be invisible because air is invisible, BUT, the smokes that came out of the building doesnt show any sign of coming out and spreading into a turbulent zone, it looks just asi if they are coming out of a building into normal air where it looks just fine. You dont see that in airports because you dont have smokes in airport.
dhakagod 2 years ago
I am only arguing because whatever these videos show are contradicting with the science I had to learn in my Aerospace Engineering degree.....
just check out this video.(only 28 seconds...):
watch?v=uy0hgG2pkUs
dhakagod 2 years ago
If you have an aerospace engineering degree, how come you list yourself as "guitarist" in your profile?
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
lol..thats a lame question. I am still studying , not doing a job, so not listing myself as an engineer, and besides, I like guitar and music more than Aerospace Engineering and i joined youtube for musical purposes, not engineering. Get it my friend ? I am just one of those kids that hates to study...lol..thx God he pushed me this far...
dhakagod 2 years ago
The smoke from Building One was fifty to a hundred metres away from the impact in tower 2. And the far greater force would not be the vortex, but the decompression and fuel/air explosion.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
The vortices should've been visible in the dust/smoke cloud formed after the impact. There were not. No vortices=no plane. Here's an example:
watch?v=2GUv2ySZ1TM
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
The dust/smoke cloud that erupted from the building after the crash would NOT have been affected by the vortices because the force of the decompression and resulting fuel/air explosion were far greater than any vortex formed in the plane's wake. You have thousands of gallons of fuel, thousands of tons of compressed air, a huge fireball, the pressure wave was enough to blow out the lift doors in the lobby and on a few of the lower levels, the effect of any vortex AFTER impact would be negligable.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Check out frame 1:36 of the video below. Actually, I think you have already seen it. This is why I'm confused with your response.
watch?v=Xlj1mVD2-HM
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago
You are comparing gently rising smoke with a smoke and dust arising from explosive decompression and the resulting fuel/air blast. The overpressure wave that resulted would have completely overwhelmed it.
dangerouslytalented 2 years ago
Gently rising? A bomb was just dropped. This was an explosion. The WTC dust/smoke cloud that formed a few seconds after impact was not violent at all. Also, the pressure wave was moving inwards and the immediate smoke cloud was not affected by it?? So logically, the trailing vortices would not be either.
muzicmaker2001 2 years ago