Long life to Stephane! We all support you and we will...man you should not have said that, because Zionists control medias....but as the saying says ``It's better to die standing up than to spend your life on your knees`` LONG LIFE TO FREEDOM, LONGLIFE TO PALESTINE GOD DAMN ISRAEL, GOD DAMN ZIONISTS
@tulipe42 they also crucified Christ, drink babies blood, alcoholize peoples and for sure scared your mom when she was pregnant. That's why this idiot was born.
ISRAEL STOLE NO MAN'S LAND! Google this title by Joseph Farah, an Arab American Journalist and an honest man, Gendron is a liar, hateful, and in fact an anti-Semite sleaze!
@triplecheck4 lool every time someone is against israel jews call this person anti-semite looool brainless bitch ! jews used this word so many time that the word have no sense now
... reminds me the story of the little boy screaming about the wolf ... jews are the most racist people in the world and they always scream : anti-semitism ! anti-semitism ! loool
@RWDNismoFan And Jews should use this term, anti-Semite, time and again when they see an anti-Semite rearing his ugly head from the dirt he enjoy to meddle in...
@triplecheck4 if you are serious about anti-semitism you have a big problem , black people so much more problem and look now the majority of white and black people can live in society with less racist acts , but jews can't , maybe to retard, I don't know for real
@RWDNismoFan Really? When was the last time you visited Israel? Israel is a cosmopolitan in nature and hold the highest regards for all man kind including ARABS. In fact recently there was a poll that showed that about 53% of Arab Israelis are proud to be Israeli and in fact call for strengthening the Israeli military, Google about it!
Shame on Genderon!! For him to mention Israel and the word "apartheid" in the same breath, show his ignorance and or evilness and bigotry. W.o.w..he stinks; he should take a shower using a heavy duty scrub!.....fe..fe..fe...
Israel is a cosmopolitan Hebrew/Jewish state which adheres to human right with the utmost respect and regards like no other county did or does under the horror she has endured and despite it all excels. To vomit you, Gendron! You are a waste and helpful to no one!
@olegrin lool no more french lool dream about that , you know why quebec can be a country ? because quebec is a major player in canadian economy , but english people are so stupid , instead of having good relationship with french people , they prefer to hate. But when you hate something you don't want to keep that close to you , English people are stupid or hypocrite ?
@RWDNismoFan funny! one of you call for destroying my country - that is kind of love? What do you want to do with 7 million habitants? To send them to Aushwitz or just to kill on the place? I came with love to french people. I studied French for 4 years. But when I saw you hate me I don't support you anymore. Look how many abuses you sent here and how many hatred commentary. And YOU call somebody HYPCRITE?!
@olegrin no "hatred" commentary , no abuses , just one lover of israel , one french hater with no brain and me , by the way with 7 million people we can compare with so many country , Israel , Switzerland , Finland , Norway , Paraguay and so many more ...
we are not talking here we are writing so take your time to some search before writing any stupid comment ..
@RWDNismoFan qc is parasite that only have hydro-energy and wood on stolen innuits land. and "french" people made ethnic clearance from anglos and jewish pogroms, but everybody has to love them. now it is a most corrupted province with a highest rate of taxes in North America. They racked all rest Canada in order to get more money their corrupted organs like language police
Stephane Gendron has it all wrong! He Orwailian at best! He should go and visit Israel before he spews all these lies, Israel is a vibrating cosmopolitan democracy..
Where is his outcry against the Apartheid Saudi Arabia, Egypt, ,Syria, and the rest of the many Arab countries where Islamomaniacs live and rule? Where is this shameful Stephane Gendron outcry about the Arab world's culture of barbarism and backwardness that he clearly support? To vomit Stephane Gendron and Long Live Israel!
@RWDNismoFan Stephane Gendron has it all wrong! He is Orwailian at best! He should go and visit Israel before he spews all these lies, Israel is a vibrating cosmopolitan democracy....
Where is his outcry against the Apartheid Saudi Arabia, Egypt, ,Syria, and the rest of the many Arab countries where Islamomaniacs live and rule? Where is this shameful Stephane Gendron outcry about the Arab world's culture of barbarism and backwardness that he clearly support? To vomit Stephane Gendron and Long Live Israel!
@triplecheck4 For real you think Israel have a better culture compare to arab ? sorry but no way ! how can you be proud of a nation that kill people that fight with little rocks ?
Gun vs Rocks ! Dude wake up ! Israel kill so many palestinian , I don't have any kind of mercy for jews
@For real Israel is a thriving Jewish/Hebrew/Israeli democracy with 20% Arab Muslims who enjoy far better quality of life than any other average Arab in any of the 22 despotic Arab regimes. Israel holds the utmost care and regards for human right to all like no other country would do under the horror she has endured while miraculously excels in science, health, technology, fashion, art etc.
Let's throw some rocks your head and we'll see how long you remain alive, you dumb-head!
@triplecheck4 im talking about people no religion here , if someone throw me rocks I beat him with a good baseball bat , I will never shoot someone without defense ... never like israel does , fagg
@RWDNismoFan For the most part the Palis, 90% Sunnis, are terrorists, suicide bomber who posse barbaric culture due to the radical Quranic teachings. Israel does not have such policies as you make it up to be only because you want it to be that way. They don 't shoot live ammunition, they shoot rubber bullets only when there is no other choice to deal the havoc the Arab constantly instigate. Israel act out self defense, This is a war zone? what do you expect?
@triplecheck4 @olegrin@triplecheck4 sorry dude you're so stick to jews balls that you can not see what really happen in our world ! for real 90% of a population are terrorist ?! do you really think that I will believe something like that !? when I see on TV , internet or anything else that everytime they talk about that its always 1 israelian die for 20 palis , is not war zone , for a war you need 2 opponent , sorry to pop your bubble but a rocks against a gun is NOT A WAR ! its a massacre
@RWDNismoFan How many palestinians with "little rocks" were killed today? Yesterday? Last month? Last year? I know jewish family (father and baby) were killed by rock last month. You are just liar as all liars from this TV channel with their hatred propaganda.
@RWDNismoFan You are clinic antisemit because your family and your people and your religion incited against the jews for so long time. Now you try to find the excuses for your racism trying to look "democratic" but all of your arguments are lies, propaganda and abuses like "brainless" "stupid" "bitch". I am only happy that Israel has a strong army against Nazis like you.
@olegrin no for real I didn't see anti-semit comment in my comments , you're a fucking idiot , If I don't agree with english people or jews is not because im a "anti" english or jews IS JUST BECAUSE I DESAGREE BITCH , its not a racial question , by the way qc is not a parasite its more like canada is a tumor stick on quebec , and english people stole innuits land too , thats was my last message for you , my friend ..
@olegrin I can't be nazis , I'm a son of a immigrant , I can't be anti-semit , because I have jews blood in my veins, the difference between you and me is the intelligence , Im not stupid as you , I know that is not all english people that are bastard like you , but you when someone don't agree to your idea its because is nazist or racist or something .. idiot.. if you hate french like you are , why don't you begin a vote for kick out quebec ???
@RWDNismoFan Nobody cares what you have in your veins - water, wine or poison. And doesn't matter who is your parents. Antisemitism is a hatred to Jewish people, Jewish language, Jewish culture and Jewish country. It is shame for Quebec that there are the politics like this man who wishes to death for other people and other country. He is not different from Ahmadinejad and other small hitlers. Everybody who wishes to other people to death doesn't have right to exist.
@olegrin It is not wishing they die, just try and become human (I know, like bleeding a turnip). The fact the zionnazis pretended that their gods wishes came true, does not make it so. The occupiers of Palestine should never have accepted the gift of those lands, as their exile is still in effect. Your religion describes certain prophetic events that must be, before the jewish can "return", but none of those things have happened anywhere. Fakes phonies and frauds, are the israeli.
@RWDNismoFan It is strange any jewish man or woman would accept the gift of an israel, when their "holocaust" requires each and every one of the 6 million dead to be dead from just one method. They need to discount any that were shot, stabbed, starved, died from diseases, anything but BURNed does not count to call it their "holocaust". They are fakes without the moral upper hand. Now they cause false flag terror every where, pointing boney fingers at those they hate.
Eh? He said "A land who acts like that does not deserve to exist". Thus, he also claim that if they changed their behaviour they would deserve to exist. I say bravo to the media for falling for that silly anti-Semite bullshit again. He talk about the acts of the state the engorgement and we apply it on the people.
Not to mention, all the brainwashing; a nice melange of; Shame (of the Holocaust, exodus) and Pride(of being "The Chosen People").... so what you get in August is a proud, arrogant, racially supremacist child who knows how to use terror tactics..... poor kids come out thinking they are a modern day samson/joshua(?)
JDL is a terrorist organization... if you ever want your child to learn how to use a gun, assault a position, and other tactics, send them to JDL "summer camp".
The land is called Judea ( as in our ancestor Judah, son of Jacob). The Jews came from the land of Israel 3000 years ago before they were driven out by the Romans. This is historical fact ! There exists DNA proof that Jews have a common ancestor that lived around the time of Jacob. I am from the priestly familly and my ancestors worked in 2 Temples in Jerusalem that stood for over 800 years. Many have tried but you cannot take that away from me.
@DrAvrington I give you the last word - bye-bye and ... "Mazel Tov". With friends like you the "little, very tiny" State of Israel truly doesn't need enemies. Here too - you seem to lack the ability to understand the difference between physical size and grandness.
The real Israel will still exist and prosper while people like you will be forgotten the moment you stop breathing.
@DrAvrington The problem with people of your habitus... "Sir" … you never know when to quit. You sit anchored in your self-dug hole and still insist in digging yourself deeper. With every posting you give away whatever little respect you may have enjoyed – if any.
I have nothing but disdain for people like you who are willing to write and twist anything in order to follow a dogma.
“Sir” … you simply lack the grandeur necessary to be able to insult me.
Benny Katzover, one of the founders and prominent leaders of the settler movement, takes off all masks. He declares himself in clear and unambiguous words to be a sworn enemy of democracy, striving to dismantle and destroy the democratic regime in Israel and replace it with a "Jewish" dictatorship of a nationalist – theocratic – racist character. Katzover no longer sees any need to pay even lip service to democracy, as he and his friends did for many years.
@ESO529 (cont. 2) He now speaks openly and brazenly, without apprehension of being hurt by this candor. He sees and feels that the liquidation of democracy has now become a tangible and realistic option on the Israeli public agenda.
Indeed, it's impossible to go on avoiding a decision. Either the military and settler dictatorship already in existence in the Territories would penetrate into all parts of Israeli society, eliminating what is left of democracy in Israel ...
@ESO529 (cont. 3) ... and eventually bringing about an end of Israel itself - or the sane forces in the Israeli society will rally at the last moment to put an end to the occupation and settlement, maintain and strengthen democracy and achieve peace between Israel, the Palestinians and the Arab World. Between these two choices there can be no bridging and no compromise.
@DrAvrington Remember? - I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state that has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it????
It seems you go by the old saying that ignorance is a bliss and count of the naïveté of the audience …
You’re very easy at disseminating “misinformation” as truth and then lack the back bone to correct your false statements. See also the “ancient Zabbaleen sect”.
@ESO529 Jizya is Islam and remember, I challenged you to show me one Islamic State that affords freedom and equality to non-Muslim minorities? Of course there are no current Jizya blessed nations however should Islam become dominant the institution may well be brought back. Not at all, Christians and Jews in Muslim nations like Egypt and the Zabbaleen, are much older then Islam itself. Please read a book. Your ignorance is offensive. SRA
Either you know and you’re playing dumb then there is no use in me showing you anything … or you have been spouting willy-nilly all along and then there is no use anyway.
Hot tip: maybe you should expand just a tiny bit your vocabulary? It gets very monotonous ...
@DrAvrington Who? You ... Sir, "Dr". I do not scoff off, ignore or insult any info you give with respect to the theme at hand.
I do scoff at, ignore and laugh though at your continuous (fruitless) efforts to a) divert the discussion, b) disseminate false info and c) think that everyone had "a window place" during history lessons.
It's fun to witness how you get caught in your own little ... "inaccuracies" - LOL!
@ESO529 You've not answered one of my questions. Please look below. Seek and ye shall find. One only needs to read the Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah and ask themselves why Constantinople is today Istanbul along with other masses of other examples which you seem to dismiss out of hand. Hmmm I wonder how did Egypt, Mesopotamia, North Africa, Spain, Persia, Turkey etc. become Muslim? Why did Spain, Greece, E.Europe and Israel reclaim their heritage and homelands... It's been fun. Really...
@DrAvrington You are not allowed to get it into your head, are you? Would it destroy the picture(s) you have drawn for yourself in order not to question yourself?
1) I have nothing to do with institutionalized religions - spare yourself the effort
2) The discussion topic is NOT Islam, Hadith, or whatever
3) The discussion topic IS Israel and its apartheid politics towards its minorities as well as towards the people it holds under occupation.
@ESO529 Please go back and re-read your dictionary and look up the def of "Apartheid". Then look at "Saudi" Arabia and any other Islamic state that pales in any way comparable to the Jew's single, and very tiny, State of Israel. Over a million Arabs living as citizens in Israel would disagree with your highly debased and factually void views. While you're at it, look up the word "dolt". SRA
“Sir” … you simply lack the grandeur necessary to be able to insult me.
I give you the last word - bye-bye and ... "Mazel Tov". With friends like you the "little, very tiny" State of Israel truly doesn't need enemies. Here too - you seem to lack the ability to understand the difference between physical size and grandness.
The real Israel will still exist and prosper while people like you will be forgotten the moment you stop breathing.
@DrAvrington Sorry I got interrupted. You state: "...however should Islam become dominant the institution may well be brought back." ???? If this makes any sense at all to you (it should as it comes from you) ... you sure have a good explanation as to why all the MUSLIM countries have not yet brought the tax back?!?!? After all they're dominant in their own countries, aren't they?
As you know "much ... much ... more" than I do I'm holding my breath to read your simple and straightforward answer.
@ESO529 An answer akin to that given in the presence of the Venetian Marco Polo by Islamic foremost scholar in Cathay to explain the question posed by Kublai Khan; "Why are you not doing as your god commands within your holy book/Qur'an advises?" re: Jihad. Answer: "We are not yet powerful enough". Answered and finished. Again. Thanks for coming out. Salam alaikum habibi SRA
@DrAvrington Are you truly unable to see how childish your efforts are to prove that you have some kind of a rehearsed (or rather looked up for the occasion) knowledge? Shall I give you the sources where to find verbetum your texts? You don't see how infantile your attempts are in mixing everything up and together hoping that people get confused enough to give up? Your inability to give a simple answer to a simple question exposes you and your "knowledge" every time. Never fails.
@ESO529 Again, you've failed to answer any of my questions supplying reason, fact, logic or truths which all here whom have neurons firing above the shoulders can see for themselves. Defamation is the last refuge for non-thinkers. Thanks for trying....accepting utter failure is hard but get used to it. SRA
@DrAvrington Again: the point was not Jihad. It is simply not in your fabric to answer a question. QED again. Twist 'n turn and spin - you must feel like a little dreydl - LOL.
"Sevivon Sov Sov Sov" ... Take a rest.
I'm getting bored with you. Reading all of your answers I must conclude that you're obviously a waste of time.
But your last faux-pas is really an excellent joke ... habibi!!! LOL!
@ESO529 No "twist and spin" but simply Islamic jurisprudence. Jihad against the Harbis or Kafir is as much of a part of Islam as the jizya is to the dhimmi. Please, your ignorance is starting to show. Again and again you've shown nothing but a lost effort. I'd not play poker if I were you. You've neither the hand nor the bluffing capabilities for it. Thanks again for your worthy efforts. Keep reading Library cards are free... SRA
Why is nobody raising an eyebrow that the Israeli and US Gov are in direct negotiations with the Egyptian Salafists – the worst form of extremist Islam which is despised and refused by every normal, decent Muslim?
Why is it OK that Rabbis can call for the killing of all Gentiles, it gets endorsed by the Rabbinical Conference and nothing happens? Ministers can call all Arabs a “deplorable nation” and nothing happens. See in comparison the fuss made about articles calling Jews Pigs … and the outcry.
Why is it that the big Jewish communities in Iran, Morocco and other Muslim countries refuse to do Alyia despite huge financial incentives and – when this didn’t/doesn’t work – physical terror by “Israel”?
After all they're "daily" massacred in these Muslim countries, are they not?
Why did Israel then grab the chance and attacked Egypt in 1956 in the shadow of France and Britain? Why did they attack in 1967? Why did they attack Lebanon in 1982 and 2006? Why do they daily fly over the sovereign land of Lebanon? And so on ...
Why is it then that Israel has refused the comprehensive peace plan offered by all Arab nations of 1949 at the Lausanne conference – which failed because of the “intransigence of Israel” = original text of UN doc; yet, the Arabs are always the one who don’t want peace?
@ESO529 What about all the other accords which Israel signed and never ever honored? Random: Oslo Accord, Wye River Accord, Annapolis, Road Map, etc. Example: the Road Map was 92% implemented/fulfilled by the Palestinians – 0% by Israel.
Why do they continue at a frentic pace the settlements if all they want is peace?
Why is it then that Israel grabbed over 20% additional land after the partition in 1947 by setting Plan Dalet in action after the announcement? And still is allowed to grab and grab as a quick look at the maps show. Those who can’t access the UN or British Archives may go to Passia.com. It’s all there at a glance.
"The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial
demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David's conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule." Illene Beatty, "Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan."
@ESO529 (cont) And these 73 or 414 year establish an eternal right at the expense of all all other peoples who lived in the very same land for millenia? If so, what about America, Canada, Australia and - much more important and very recent and not based on some obfuscated history and a (un)holy book - what about the Diego Garcians (1976)?
Why do the indigenious inhabitants of those countries not get their land back if the Jews who not even originate in the land of Shams have that right??
@DrAvrington The ominous Dhimmi Status – correct it is called “Geziya”: non-Muslims had to pay a tax in the days of old if they lived under Islamic governments. In return they got full protection and were freed from the (obligatory) military service. This tax has been abolished since centuries and was definitely not in place in the 1950s when the “Zabbaleen” emerged in Egypt … another fallacy of “DrAvrington”. Pipes, Horowitz et al destroy not only the knowledge but also the character.
@DrAvrington Oh I see! You mean to say that stating the truth is simple-minded or to be clear: stupid? Then so be it. I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state who has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it???? And Egypt has definitely NOT imposed such taxes over the past centuries. Like it or not. There is no need to throw a temper tantrum.
I don't understand your last comment - but I think it's irrelevant anyway.
@ESO529 That's right! I'm speaking truth unless you can tell me the Christians in Egypt are living as equal with the Muslim? That Islam allows this equality with the unbeliever? Jizya IS Islam. The Hindus don't burn wives anymore thanks to the Brits! This is not about the Jizya but about this Christian sect in Egypt is it not? Don't understand that Jihad is a Islam you don't understand? Not irrelevant to this subject at all but a foundation for this subject. SRA
@DrAvrington It seems you have finished yourself off. You are incapable of making any sense, holding a discussion or of staying with the subject. I fail to find one single true statement in the "zibala" (you should know what that means by now) that you are spouting out all over the place. I really feel sorry for you ... Sir.
I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state who has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it????
@DrAvrington And while at it - what ever happened to the Canadian, Ugandan, Australian and/or Mozambique projects of the Zionists? Were these places - after looking at them - not (un)holy enough?
@ESO529 Your answer is The State of Israel re-built on the exact plot of land the entire Western heritage, tradition, culture and mores are based: Israel: Judea: Holy Lands. None of the places you mentioned are related or affiliated to any Western religious precept well except for Islam requires them to be "submitted" one day. Your ignorance is utterly offensive. SRA.
@DrAvrington 1) I sincerely hope you know what you wanted to say with your 1st sentence where you string words and colons together.
2) As for the places I mentioned: ask the WZO why they sent delegations to all those places (and more) to look at the potential of those countries for a future homeland for Jews.
Maybe – just maybe – you should learn the basics of the history you’re talking about and pretend to be THE expert?
@ESO529 3) It’s bad if you’re ignorant, it’s worse if you don’t make any effort to educate yourself, but it is certainly a disaster to try, with all your ignorance, to educate others.
I’m no lover of any institutionalized religion but it seems your hatred blinds you all the way. Go get a life!
@ESO529 You are right! You are both ignorant and arrogant. Please answer my questions with any intellect whatsoever. It appears that the Zabbaleen are Coptic Christians that pre-date Islam in any event no matter what title one affords them. You've missed my entire point to which I was entirely correct and you were entirely wrong. Aside from my not knowing they were Copts, I am very well informed of Copts and the Oriental Orthodox Church as previously stated. SRA.
@DrAvrington Instead of your continuous ad hominem attacks (which I countered with the same I admit) try this for a change:
If you are in a hole - stop digging - LOL!
Now you "claim" (???) that you didn't know that the Zabbaleen are Copts ... but hey! you are very well informed of "Copts and the Oriental Orthodox Church" - WOW is all I can say to that.
Intellectual honesty is a rare commodity in discussions with people of your habitus is all I can say.
@ESO529 Interesting how your attacks and insults stem from a title to a documentary on a sect of Christians living in debased squalor in a Muslim country without any equality or human rights. Intellectual honesty is riddled through all of my posts and albeit none of yours. Perhaps if you knew about the Zabbaleen in the first place you'd not be embarrassing yourself within every aspect of this discussion. Salam alaikum habibi SRA
@DrAvrington Sorry I didn't see your ... answer. It's always interesting and almost rewarding ... to see how you pick up some vocabulary from my answers to you. YOU claim intellectual honesty?!?! You know exactly - or should if your cells have any noticeable function - that the Zabbaleen question was ... just giving you enough rope to expose your ... "knowledge" - LOL.
Keep on dreaming ... make up stories and feel like a "hero" :-). I pitty you - "Sir and Dr" without the "dot".
@ESO529 The Jews have ONE tiny state although I don't hear you complain about any of the over 50, once non-Islamic, States that have no human rights whatsoever? You fail to answer HOW these places became "submitted" to Islam while you focus your narrow views toward, and only, Israel. Who cares about the WZO, perhaps you might look at the Arab or Muslim groups that are similar and active today? Never said I was an expert but know much....much...more then you. Thanks for coming out.
@DrAvrington It could be almost worth a study how you continously throughout the whole thread fail to give a simple answer to a simple question. It's almost an art. Is this what you got your "PhD" for?
In order to come out ... one has to be in first. I - as opposed to you - don't feel the urge to play games ... nor do I need titles ... nor do I need to parade "knowledge". I just state facts frm reliable official sources mainly from IL side.
Jews have always been the proverbial "canaries in the coal mine"- 1st the Jews and than "others'! Today the Christians in the Arab Middle East-predating the invention of Islam in the 7th century- are becoming part of a "CHRISTIAN FRIE" Middle East that reverberates the words of MALLORY BROWN- NEW YORK TIMES- 1948 PAGE E4! "JEWS IN GRAVE DANGER IN ALL MOSLEM LANDS"- Today there are no Jews left in Moslem lands- and Christians are being decimated - The Arab Spring makes that obvious!
@menodimi1 “Today there are no Jews left in Moslem lands”
Facts and figures tell a different story (figures courtesy of the JA):
From Turkey 17,000 – Azerbaijan 7,900 – Kazakhstan 4,500 – via Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan to Iran – 11,200 - to Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Ethiopia, Morocco – 5,600 – to Tunisia … etc. Jews live in Muslim lands.
@menodimi1 Christian population of Israel "proper" in the late 1940s was some 24 % - today they make up hardly 1,3% - excluding Tel Aviv, which has a relatively "big" Christian community due to the diplomatic personnel.
I guess this decimation must have been in anticipation of the Arab Spring!?
This entire "conflict" is rooted in revisionist history- a failure of so called"educated "peoples to learn the history of the Middle East and how Islam has usurped the territories of over 50 once non Islamic states. Constantinoples- renamed Turkey- marvel Christian church Hagia Sophia- Saint Sophia- was converted to a Mosque in the 15th century. Muslims built their mosques atop Jerusalems holiest Jewish Temple Mount in the 7th century. Expansionist Islam will not tolerate Jew or CHRISTIAN
@DrAvrington 2) As you saw fit to deliberatly misguide people re “Zabbaleen” and abuse their ignorance let me put a few facts straight:
The “Zabbaleen” are not a “hidden society” nor are they a mysterious community as stated in the video nor are they an “ancient sect” as stated by you. The community of the Zabbaleen is today made up of approx. ¾ Coptic Christians and ¼ Muslims.
@DrAvrington Your link re “Zabbaleen”: The fact that this comes from Germans had to remind me of Dr. Goebbels who comes out smelling like a rose; he pales in comparison into a nice gent from the neighborhood. The video is a despicable production of selective cutting and pasting of little facts to produce a totally false picture and story. They omit totally that directly after the quarter they filmed are the Muslims living in the graves (City of Death) – in even worse conditions then they do.
@ESO529 Mensheyat Nasser (mentioned in the video as THE place where they live, almost hide) is one of the biggest of the 82 slums in and around Cairo and has approx. 1 Mio inhabitants of which less than ½ % are Christians. The video claims that this is the biggest concentration of Christians in Egypt! Obviously a very ignorant statement given the fact that there are roughly 10 Mio Christians (Copts and others).
@ESO529 They claim that the biggest church is built there – a quick search reveals that the biggest church (actually a cathedral) is in the center of Abbasseya; it being the biggest one in Africa and the Middle East. And so on and on go the lies and fallacies.
I truly have difficulties reconciling your statement that the "Zabbaleen Christians" is an “ancient sect living under dhimmi status" with the material you should have consulted/consumed before recommending for others to read.
@ESO529 Dear "Dr", after all is said and done ... how come that the extremely rich families of Sawires, Bouthros Ghali, Abel Nour et al - but first and foremost the very rich Coptic Church - doesn't lift a finger to aleviate the plight of their brethrens? After all well over 50% of Egypt's wealth is in the hands of the Coptic establishment - mind you less than 10% of the population is Christian.
@ESO529 Sir, do not insult my intelligence! If you knew anything about the history and spread of Christianity you'd not be spewing your ignorance. "Zabbaleen" Christian, that I stated was simply the term used for these Christians. They are Egyptians that happened to relocate to Cairo. Next you're going to tell me that the Arab-Muslim massacres of the Black Christians in the Sudan are a myth as well and that the Ethiopian Christians don't exist either and are a plant on Muhammadan lands.
@DrAvrington Don't worry, there's nothing to insult.
It seems I hit a raw nerve given that you see it fit to go into a temper tantrum after your ignorance has been exposed thanks only to yourself ... Sir! LOL.
Your twists 'n turns don't help and I do not intend to discuss any Christian or Muslim massacres with someone who doesn't adhere to a minimum of intellectual honesty. The subject at hand is Israel - remember?
Wonder how this mayor explains the fact that the 99% that is the Arab Middle East- population 300 million- has been ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS- And the 1% of the Middle East- 27000 sq km- Israel-- population 8 million- has 1.3 Million Arab/Palaestinian citizens? And the largest part of "Palaestine"- Jordan- 93000 sq km- keeps "PALAESTINIANS" IN OPEN AIR REFUGE CAMPS IN "PALAESTINE"! Explain that?
Jews celebrate 5774 years- Passover! The celebration is rooted in the history of Judaism and Judea! The TEMPLE MOUNT is not a "Palaestinian" Temple-It is a Jewish Temple. Jerusalem is not a "Palaestinian" city it is a Jewish city. King Solomon- King David were not "Europeans"! And Moses- a Jew- was the 1st ZIONIST - he brought Jews to their lands by the word of God- This mayor should take up his argument with God if he does not like the truth! There are no Jewish settlers in Judea!
@menodimi1 Psssst - don't tell anyone but Jerusalem was built long before the apprearance of the Israelites. Jerusalem was built and inhabited by the Jebusites until the Israelites came, massacred and/or expelled them and took possession of what was not theirs in the first place ... any resemblance to today's situation is sheer coincidence!
@menodimi1 Do you earnestly mean to day that God himself is a real estate broker? tztztz ... interesting! Does he charge high fees or does he work for free?
Israel today is only 27000 sq km out of the entirety of the mandate/ 1922 which carved out new Arab states and one Jewish state which was the smallest territory - 120,000 sq km in size- called"Palaestine"- a name rooted in the Roman war against Judea/ Jew! To allege that a "Jew" is a settler in "Judea"/ "Palaestine" is to promulgate myth in the tradition of Blood Libels! The problen here is that there is a "political agenda" to distant the Jew from Judea! How obvious!
Israel/Judea was turned into a province within Roman Empire called Syria-"Palaestina" by Hadrian in 135. After the War against Jews, in honor of the victory - Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus was honored by his brother / Emperor Titus Flavius Caesar Domitianus Augustus in 82AD Arch of Titus, located on the Via Sacra in Rome. The is proof of the myth of any "Palestinian" people as it clearly shows Jews being lead away after the Roman conquest of Judea not "Palestine"!
And Israel has not 'stolen' land from the 'Palestinians'. There was never a nation called Palestine. Jews were Palestinians when the Arabs refused to be identified as Palestinians. Israel was offered land, the Arabs were offered land, and the Arabs refused. Jordan is 'Palestine'. Israelis legally purchase land from Arabs, and from the Turks before, when they were the land holders. This is THE BIG LIE. Used against Israel by liars and anti-Semites. Just like the Nazis.
@tinydancer1965 Very good. Keep up the honesty. Fact always trumps fictional theory so long as there are those with the moral compass to speak them. The sad realities is that Israel and Jews themselves do not, either learn about or speak openly about these facts themselves. Could you just imagine if Israel and any thinking Christian had of stomped out this "Palestinian" mythology the moment it reared its corruptly fabricated head? There's only one remedy: transfer. SRA
@DrAvrington "There's only one remedy: transfer." I'm astonished - after all what I've read from you - that you advocate the transfer of the Jewish Israeli population back to their homelands. This are true fascist Nazi methods.
I ask though to exclude the Sephardim Jews (Oriental Jews as they are derrogatory called by the Ashkenazis) as they are the true Jews who always lived and always will live in that region.
This liar is a filthy anti-Semite and Canadians should be ashamed of him. He deserves to be fired from his job. First for spreading outright lies about Israel, and second to make the point that Canada stand with Israel against lies and slander. There is NO truth whatsoever in the slander that Israel is apartheid. Arabs share the same rights as Israelis. Even black Muslims escaping Sudan find refuge in Israel and say it is not racist or apartheid. This man is an outright liar.
@Dr. Avrington "Zebaleen Christians" - sounds interesting. Is this a cult, a sect or a faction? Where and when did they originate? Interested to read you - thanks.
@ESO529 They are an ancient Christian sect living under Islamic "dhimi" status in Egypt. Of course one does not see the numerous kafir peoples living under Islam due to skewed Western media. Kitman TV has a few good documentaries on the Zebaleen Christian or simply do a search for "The Rubbish People". Regards, SRA
@DrAvrington Sorry - I searched for more specific info but couldnt find any. Your posting does not provide the answer to my questions above ... do you mind to be a bit more specific?
BTW: Why do you refer to them as "rubbish people" - I thought they were supposedly good?
PS: what does "SRA" at the end of your posting mean?
@ESO529 Go to Kitman TV. Click on Top 25 Films on Islam along the top. Scroll down the page you'll find the documentary "Egypt's Rubbish People". Click Watch online. Enjoy and regards. SRA (initials ;-) )
@DrAvrington I watched the video but can't find the answer to my question there either. Can you give me a clue when that “Zabbaleen” sect initiated - was that in the year e.g. 250 or 630 AD? Thank you for your patience!
@ESO529 Very good question. I know they originally came from the Western deserts of Egypt. So who knows how old they are. Could be as old as the Copts, Maronite, Eastern/Asian Orthodox... No idea. Wikipedia says this community came into Cairo in the early 1900s and settled into this filthy/dump part of the city. SRA
@DrAvrington Interesting! From a definite “They are an ancient Christian sect …” you proclaim now (after a few twitches): “No idea” and you consulted Wiki and tell me something about Western Desert”S” in Egypt (there’s only one) were they originate (acc. to you) to maybe as old as Copts, Maronites, Eastern/Asian Orthodox (whoever the Asian Orthodox are???) … or that this “ancient Christian sect” came to Cairo in the 1900s. Hhhmmm, what do I make with this drivel?
He said nothing new, except for the fact that he actually said it;) The thing is that he used his right to have an opinion and freely express it - the right everyone have if he is not living in the state under some form of dictatorship. Last time I checked Canada was free country. What is all this noise about?
He declared '' a COUNTRY like this does not deserve to exist''. I agree : any country that doesn't respect human rights and pratice a genocide does not deserve to exist. 70 years ago, it was the Nazis' Germany. Nowadays it's the Zionists' Israel.
@GrashnaktheCrusher What kind of ignorance is this? Name one Arab, Communist or Turd World nation, including the United Nations, that gives a farthing about so-called "Human Rights"? "Human Rights" are the biggest sham next to ol-Al and the IPCC. There's not one Muslim Nation that practices or cares about "Human Rights". Give me a bloody break! There are no death camps, genocide, extermination camps in Israel. Your ignorance is offensive! SRA
I understand you view but totally disagree with your analogy. The tiny country of Israel and its miniscule population wants peace while the surrounding 300 million Muslims Arabs daily declare on TV, media, their hate and wishes to wipe Israel of the map. They even teach their children to hate. If you are as intelligent as you claim to be, please Google IDIOTS FOR PALESTINE and provide a rebuttal about the facts. I look forward to it
@tdadler You are entirely correct. The sad fact is that Israel and Jews of all people should be the first to stamp out this replacement theology of any "Palestinian" People. Heck if one delves into historical fact, as displayed via Arch of Titus or the Synagogue of Dura-Europos(now on display at the National Museum in Damascus) the Judean: Jews would be the real "Palaestinian" people if any title should be afforded. Islam won't and can't afford peace with the Kafir especially the Jew.
What Stephane Gendron said is not just an abusive and discriminatory statement. It's a call for genocide.
Calling for genocide is not criticism of policies, it is a statement that the object of future genocide is utterly unreformable and incapable of anything good by nature. By biology. By race.
If this call for extermination of at least 6 million (and maybe 8 million) people is not a nazi statement, I don't know what a nazi statement is.
1. Please show me where Israel threatened anyone with nuclear weapons. You will not find any such evidence, however I tell, if someone tries to kill me I would do all there is in my power to defend myself. Wouldn't you?
2. Re Sri Lanka conflict: Ask your government about it and also ask about what to do about the rest of the Radical Muslim terrorists acts, in England, France, Spain and Lebanon, Turkey etc
3. USA has a lot to gain by supporting Democratic Israel, and it's smart people.
FOR EVERYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO, THE TITLE IS MISLEADING, HE DID NOT SAY THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT DESERVE TO EXIST, OR THAT IT MUST BE DISMANTLED. HE SAID THAT A COUNTRY THAT TREATS THE PALESTINIAN LIKE IT DOES IN THE CURRENT SITUATION DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST
@tdadler this was only a media ploy to focus on colonizing the eastern territories, stop treating anyone like a blind children led by a church of hate, because you might grow up to be 30 and realize that your church is just as guilty of propagating hatred as ours is and those pro-alqaeda imam are.
Sorry, but you are wrong again. The Israely army vacated Gaza and as a reward their population got bombarded with 10,000 rackets, being shut from school yeards, school classes and shielding themself behind children. Just forget blind hate, wake up and read and educate yourself. You'll be a better person.
One has to be completly blind or Naive, to believe that Israel, a tiny country with only 7 million citizens would be the agressor, when it is surrounded by 300 million hostile Arabs which openly declare their intend to destry the state of Israel. Radical/Barbaric/Militaristic Islam hate of Jewes is the root of the problem in the Mid East and in the world. Please Google USEFUL IDIOTS FOR PALESTINE.
@tdadler im sorry but arab r hostil to them cause they are the opressor and they r the occupier . Look what they did in gaza . they put a whole people in a large prison then they say we just defend ourselves . im sorry i dont agree with u
@tdadler Israel introduced the nuclear weapon to the middle when it promised to not do so. it will also bomb Iran in a few month or days for that reason.
What do you think of Sri lanka as a conflict? the first inhabitant are the tamil, why aren't we intervening on their favor?
Pro-israeli people like you think that the united states of america ( Rome) will finance a country that has good or positive aims. they will only finance the wrong and the murderous people,so far they send cash to you
He's not attacking the people or the religion. He is criticising the governement of Israel and their ultra-orthodox mindset. It isnt racist, antisemetic or anything close to that. When one of the main factories in the city that was founded by jews shut down for economic reasons, as mayor he bought the factory and the land and rejuvenated it into a industrial park that he named after those same jews. To call this man antisemetic is ignorant. Criticising a government is not racism.
Stéphane Gendron a une tête sur les épaules ! À bas le sionisme ! À bas le judaïsme talmudique ! Le premier Dieu monothéiste vient de l'Iran ! Yahweh est un vol ! Tout comme ils ont volé le monopole Hollywood, le monopole médiatique, le monopole banquier et la Palestine ! L'art de redessiner l'histoire et de conditionner de pauvres consciences à un état d'ignorance. C'est l'art de manipuler les symboles. Jésus était roi des Judéens, et non des JUIFS ! UN JUIF, ÇA N'EXISTE PAS !
The debate should not be about Jews at all, they are as much victims of how people use them as anyone else and it doesn't solve anything. The polical ideology called Zionism is what people dislike about Israel and why it has been on every news outlets for the last 20+ years reported as a victim while invading and occupying other countries. We should focus on the politics and the lies it has spread since the UN gave the land away while it was inhabited by another people for hundreds of years.
@GeofsFilms Just wanted to say you're right in some respects. There are different forms of Zionism. Jews were hated long before Zionism. The minority Jews living in Zion: Israel or the region of Palestine were there long before the Arabs with an unbroken ancestry well into antiquity.The UN also partition/fabricated over a dozen formerly non-Arab/Muslim lands as well. India has their own "Palestinian" state carved out of Indian lands called "Pakistan" but the world focuses on the Jew.
@DrAvrington WW2's lost lesson to the Zionist political party is how to treat others with liberty, respect and dignity. They claim to fight for the jewish people while hiding themselves behind those they claim to protect and I want to add that they are not honoring their fallen forefathers. Attacking a political ideology can succeed in ending the endless conflicts we have been witness to... always trying to make this about a specific people or persons will not.
@GeofsFilms Very interesting. Although there are different forms of "Zionism"; Religious Zionism from the Biblical antiquity, Jewish Nationalism and Labor Zionism which I tend to agree was/is a failure due to it being predicated on Socialism/Communism. However, if one seeks the Arabs also host two main forms of sociopolitical (Arab Socialism) and theo-political (Islam), neither of which allows peace with the Jew or Kafir. Regards, SRA.
@DrAvrington As historically versed as you are and a good observer of the players involved, the only reason people keep having these discussions and racist comments is because at some point, in all of its media manipulation majesty, the ruling political party of Israel was able to convince (to be polite) that criticising its aggressive foreign policies is anti-semite. Deflecting every cruel deed they accomplish and issues they raise to the very people they claim to work for.
about time sombody speak out again those israeli
85keven 3 days ago
Long life to Stephane! We all support you and we will...man you should not have said that, because Zionists control medias....but as the saying says ``It's better to die standing up than to spend your life on your knees`` LONG LIFE TO FREEDOM, LONGLIFE TO PALESTINE GOD DAMN ISRAEL, GOD DAMN ZIONISTS
tulipe42 2 weeks ago
@tulipe42 they also crucified Christ, drink babies blood, alcoholize peoples and for sure scared your mom when she was pregnant. That's why this idiot was born.
olegrin 2 weeks ago
ISRAEL STOLE NO MAN'S LAND! Google this title by Joseph Farah, an Arab American Journalist and an honest man, Gendron is a liar, hateful, and in fact an anti-Semite sleaze!
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
@triplecheck4 lool every time someone is against israel jews call this person anti-semite looool brainless bitch ! jews used this word so many time that the word have no sense now
... reminds me the story of the little boy screaming about the wolf ... jews are the most racist people in the world and they always scream : anti-semitism ! anti-semitism ! loool
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan And Jews should use this term, anti-Semite, time and again when they see an anti-Semite rearing his ugly head from the dirt he enjoy to meddle in...
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
@triplecheck4 if you are serious about anti-semitism you have a big problem , black people so much more problem and look now the majority of white and black people can live in society with less racist acts , but jews can't , maybe to retard, I don't know for real
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan Really? When was the last time you visited Israel? Israel is a cosmopolitan in nature and hold the highest regards for all man kind including ARABS. In fact recently there was a poll that showed that about 53% of Arab Israelis are proud to be Israeli and in fact call for strengthening the Israeli military, Google about it!
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago 2
Shame on Genderon!! For him to mention Israel and the word "apartheid" in the same breath, show his ignorance and or evilness and bigotry. W.o.w..he stinks; he should take a shower using a heavy duty scrub!.....fe..fe..fe...
Israel is a cosmopolitan Hebrew/Jewish state which adheres to human right with the utmost respect and regards like no other county did or does under the horror she has endured and despite it all excels. To vomit you, Gendron! You are a waste and helpful to no one!
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
That is simple Nazism. I wish Quebec n'existe plus! C'est une pays volée
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@olegrin Quebec isn't a country brainless bitch
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan and nether will be. no more french - landuage of occupants and nazists!
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@olegrin lool no more french lool dream about that , you know why quebec can be a country ? because quebec is a major player in canadian economy , but english people are so stupid , instead of having good relationship with french people , they prefer to hate. But when you hate something you don't want to keep that close to you , English people are stupid or hypocrite ?
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan funny! one of you call for destroying my country - that is kind of love? What do you want to do with 7 million habitants? To send them to Aushwitz or just to kill on the place? I came with love to french people. I studied French for 4 years. But when I saw you hate me I don't support you anymore. Look how many abuses you sent here and how many hatred commentary. And YOU call somebody HYPCRITE?!
olegrin 2 weeks ago 2
@olegrin no "hatred" commentary , no abuses , just one lover of israel , one french hater with no brain and me , by the way with 7 million people we can compare with so many country , Israel , Switzerland , Finland , Norway , Paraguay and so many more ...
we are not talking here we are writing so take your time to some search before writing any stupid comment ..
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan qc is parasite that only have hydro-energy and wood on stolen innuits land. and "french" people made ethnic clearance from anglos and jewish pogroms, but everybody has to love them. now it is a most corrupted province with a highest rate of taxes in North America. They racked all rest Canada in order to get more money their corrupted organs like language police
olegrin 2 weeks ago
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@olegrin nazism. Better than zionism
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
Stephane Gendron has it all wrong! He Orwailian at best! He should go and visit Israel before he spews all these lies, Israel is a vibrating cosmopolitan democracy..
Where is his outcry against the Apartheid Saudi Arabia, Egypt, ,Syria, and the rest of the many Arab countries where Islamomaniacs live and rule? Where is this shameful Stephane Gendron outcry about the Arab world's culture of barbarism and backwardness that he clearly support? To vomit Stephane Gendron and Long Live Israel!
triplecheck4 3 weeks ago
@triplecheck4 crazy jews ewwww
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
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@RWDNismoFan Stephane Gendron has it all wrong! He is Orwailian at best! He should go and visit Israel before he spews all these lies, Israel is a vibrating cosmopolitan democracy....
Crazy RWDnismFan............
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan REREAD:
Where is his outcry against the Apartheid Saudi Arabia, Egypt, ,Syria, and the rest of the many Arab countries where Islamomaniacs live and rule? Where is this shameful Stephane Gendron outcry about the Arab world's culture of barbarism and backwardness that he clearly support? To vomit Stephane Gendron and Long Live Israel!
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
@triplecheck4 For real you think Israel have a better culture compare to arab ? sorry but no way ! how can you be proud of a nation that kill people that fight with little rocks ?
Gun vs Rocks ! Dude wake up ! Israel kill so many palestinian , I don't have any kind of mercy for jews
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@For real Israel is a thriving Jewish/Hebrew/Israeli democracy with 20% Arab Muslims who enjoy far better quality of life than any other average Arab in any of the 22 despotic Arab regimes. Israel holds the utmost care and regards for human right to all like no other country would do under the horror she has endured while miraculously excels in science, health, technology, fashion, art etc.
Let's throw some rocks your head and we'll see how long you remain alive, you dumb-head!
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
@triplecheck4 im talking about people no religion here , if someone throw me rocks I beat him with a good baseball bat , I will never shoot someone without defense ... never like israel does , fagg
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan For the most part the Palis, 90% Sunnis, are terrorists, suicide bomber who posse barbaric culture due to the radical Quranic teachings. Israel does not have such policies as you make it up to be only because you want it to be that way. They don 't shoot live ammunition, they shoot rubber bullets only when there is no other choice to deal the havoc the Arab constantly instigate. Israel act out self defense, This is a war zone? what do you expect?
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
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@triplecheck4 @olegrin @triplecheck4 sorry dude you're so stick to jews balls that you can not see what really happen in our world ! for real 90% of a population are terrorist ?! do you really think that I will believe something like that !? when I see on TV , internet or anything else that everytime they talk about that its always 1 israelian die for 20 palis , is not war zone , for a war you need 2 opponent , sorry to pop your bubble but a rocks against a gun is NOT A WAR ! its a massacre
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan How many palestinians with "little rocks" were killed today? Yesterday? Last month? Last year? I know jewish family (father and baby) were killed by rock last month. You are just liar as all liars from this TV channel with their hatred propaganda.
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan You are clinic antisemit because your family and your people and your religion incited against the jews for so long time. Now you try to find the excuses for your racism trying to look "democratic" but all of your arguments are lies, propaganda and abuses like "brainless" "stupid" "bitch". I am only happy that Israel has a strong army against Nazis like you.
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@olegrin no for real I didn't see anti-semit comment in my comments , you're a fucking idiot , If I don't agree with english people or jews is not because im a "anti" english or jews IS JUST BECAUSE I DESAGREE BITCH , its not a racial question , by the way qc is not a parasite its more like canada is a tumor stick on quebec , and english people stole innuits land too , thats was my last message for you , my friend ..
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@olegrin I can't be nazis , I'm a son of a immigrant , I can't be anti-semit , because I have jews blood in my veins, the difference between you and me is the intelligence , Im not stupid as you , I know that is not all english people that are bastard like you , but you when someone don't agree to your idea its because is nazist or racist or something .. idiot.. if you hate french like you are , why don't you begin a vote for kick out quebec ???
no balls to do it ? noo , just hypocrisy
RWDNismoFan 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan from your answers is easy to understand everything about your "intelligence". I don't even need to comment.
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@RWDNismoFan Nobody cares what you have in your veins - water, wine or poison. And doesn't matter who is your parents. Antisemitism is a hatred to Jewish people, Jewish language, Jewish culture and Jewish country. It is shame for Quebec that there are the politics like this man who wishes to death for other people and other country. He is not different from Ahmadinejad and other small hitlers. Everybody who wishes to other people to death doesn't have right to exist.
olegrin 2 weeks ago
@olegrin It is not wishing they die, just try and become human (I know, like bleeding a turnip). The fact the zionnazis pretended that their gods wishes came true, does not make it so. The occupiers of Palestine should never have accepted the gift of those lands, as their exile is still in effect. Your religion describes certain prophetic events that must be, before the jewish can "return", but none of those things have happened anywhere. Fakes phonies and frauds, are the israeli.
ISamuelII 1 week ago
@ISamuelII You'd better return to your madhouse.
olegrin 1 week ago
@RWDNismoFan It is strange any jewish man or woman would accept the gift of an israel, when their "holocaust" requires each and every one of the 6 million dead to be dead from just one method. They need to discount any that were shot, stabbed, starved, died from diseases, anything but BURNed does not count to call it their "holocaust". They are fakes without the moral upper hand. Now they cause false flag terror every where, pointing boney fingers at those they hate.
ISamuelII 1 week ago
@ISamuelII I'm happy that those like you support mr.Gendron. It only explains who is herself.
olegrin 1 week ago
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@triplecheck4 so who needs to be " cosmopolitan?
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
fuck israel!! go in israel stupid jew bitch!
broadheadg 4 weeks ago
@broadheadg LONG LIVE ISRAEL AND THE WEST!
GO TO HEAVEM TO FIND YOUR 72 VIRGINS THERE..WILL YOU?
triplecheck4 2 weeks ago
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@triplecheck4 what has " the west " got to do with Israel?
alanbstard4 2 weeks ago
Eh? He said "A land who acts like that does not deserve to exist". Thus, he also claim that if they changed their behaviour they would deserve to exist. I say bravo to the media for falling for that silly anti-Semite bullshit again. He talk about the acts of the state the engorgement and we apply it on the people.
stevenaudet 4 weeks ago
gorvernment* - not "engorgement" stupid auto-correcting software was on French.
stevenaudet 4 weeks ago
Not to mention, all the brainwashing; a nice melange of; Shame (of the Holocaust, exodus) and Pride(of being "The Chosen People").... so what you get in August is a proud, arrogant, racially supremacist child who knows how to use terror tactics..... poor kids come out thinking they are a modern day samson/joshua(?)
jackrowet1234 4 weeks ago
JDL is a terrorist organization... if you ever want your child to learn how to use a gun, assault a position, and other tactics, send them to JDL "summer camp".
jackrowet1234 4 weeks ago
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The land is called Judea ( as in our ancestor Judah, son of Jacob). The Jews came from the land of Israel 3000 years ago before they were driven out by the Romans. This is historical fact ! There exists DNA proof that Jews have a common ancestor that lived around the time of Jacob. I am from the priestly familly and my ancestors worked in 2 Temples in Jerusalem that stood for over 800 years. Many have tried but you cannot take that away from me.
thirdtemple613 1 month ago
totalement d'accord
RWDNismoFan 1 month ago
@RWDNismoFan quebec n'est pas droit d'exister
olegrin 2 weeks ago
Boycote Israel,
djilouZZ 1 month ago
jewish lobby fighting the holy war on youtube?
LordBelfast 1 month ago
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@DrAvrington I give you the last word - bye-bye and ... "Mazel Tov". With friends like you the "little, very tiny" State of Israel truly doesn't need enemies. Here too - you seem to lack the ability to understand the difference between physical size and grandness.
The real Israel will still exist and prosper while people like you will be forgotten the moment you stop breathing.
Shalom
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington The problem with people of your habitus... "Sir" … you never know when to quit. You sit anchored in your self-dug hole and still insist in digging yourself deeper. With every posting you give away whatever little respect you may have enjoyed – if any.
I have nothing but disdain for people like you who are willing to write and twist anything in order to follow a dogma.
“Sir” … you simply lack the grandeur necessary to be able to insult me.
“Sevivon Sov Sov Sov …”
ESO529 1 month ago
Alert from Gush Shalom:
Benny Katzover, one of the founders and prominent leaders of the settler movement, takes off all masks. He declares himself in clear and unambiguous words to be a sworn enemy of democracy, striving to dismantle and destroy the democratic regime in Israel and replace it with a "Jewish" dictatorship of a nationalist – theocratic – racist character. Katzover no longer sees any need to pay even lip service to democracy, as he and his friends did for many years.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 (cont. 2) He now speaks openly and brazenly, without apprehension of being hurt by this candor. He sees and feels that the liquidation of democracy has now become a tangible and realistic option on the Israeli public agenda.
Indeed, it's impossible to go on avoiding a decision. Either the military and settler dictatorship already in existence in the Territories would penetrate into all parts of Israeli society, eliminating what is left of democracy in Israel ...
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 (cont. 3) ... and eventually bringing about an end of Israel itself - or the sane forces in the Israeli society will rally at the last moment to put an end to the occupation and settlement, maintain and strengthen democracy and achieve peace between Israel, the Palestinians and the Arab World. Between these two choices there can be no bridging and no compromise.
~*~*~
Oh Shema Yisrael - I wish that sanity wins!
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Remember? - I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state that has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it????
It seems you go by the old saying that ignorance is a bliss and count of the naïveté of the audience …
You’re very easy at disseminating “misinformation” as truth and then lack the back bone to correct your false statements. See also the “ancient Zabbaleen sect”.
Fits pefectly the bill.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Correction: it should naturally read: "... count on the ..."
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Jizya is Islam and remember, I challenged you to show me one Islamic State that affords freedom and equality to non-Muslim minorities? Of course there are no current Jizya blessed nations however should Islam become dominant the institution may well be brought back. Not at all, Christians and Jews in Muslim nations like Egypt and the Zabbaleen, are much older then Islam itself. Please read a book. Your ignorance is offensive. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
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@DrAvrington 2 days ago you said: "They are an ancient Christian sect living under Islamic "dhimi" status in Egypt."
Now - cornered - you spin on your heels and state: "Of course there are no current Jizya blessed nations ..." Oh yes?! Of course???
As I keep saying ... intellectual honesty is by far not your cup of tea - QED
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington I don’t show you nothing!
Either you know and you’re playing dumb then there is no use in me showing you anything … or you have been spouting willy-nilly all along and then there is no use anyway.
Hot tip: maybe you should expand just a tiny bit your vocabulary? It gets very monotonous ...
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Who's playing dumb here? I've given you more information that you simply scoff off, ignore or insult. Again, thanks for coming out.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Who? You ... Sir, "Dr". I do not scoff off, ignore or insult any info you give with respect to the theme at hand.
I do scoff at, ignore and laugh though at your continuous (fruitless) efforts to a) divert the discussion, b) disseminate false info and c) think that everyone had "a window place" during history lessons.
It's fun to witness how you get caught in your own little ... "inaccuracies" - LOL!
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 You've not answered one of my questions. Please look below. Seek and ye shall find. One only needs to read the Qur'an, Hadith and Sunnah and ask themselves why Constantinople is today Istanbul along with other masses of other examples which you seem to dismiss out of hand. Hmmm I wonder how did Egypt, Mesopotamia, North Africa, Spain, Persia, Turkey etc. become Muslim? Why did Spain, Greece, E.Europe and Israel reclaim their heritage and homelands... It's been fun. Really...
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington You are not allowed to get it into your head, are you? Would it destroy the picture(s) you have drawn for yourself in order not to question yourself?
1) I have nothing to do with institutionalized religions - spare yourself the effort
2) The discussion topic is NOT Islam, Hadith, or whatever
3) The discussion topic IS Israel and its apartheid politics towards its minorities as well as towards the people it holds under occupation.
End of the story ... "Sir".
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Please go back and re-read your dictionary and look up the def of "Apartheid". Then look at "Saudi" Arabia and any other Islamic state that pales in any way comparable to the Jew's single, and very tiny, State of Israel. Over a million Arabs living as citizens in Israel would disagree with your highly debased and factually void views. While you're at it, look up the word "dolt". SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
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@DrAvrington In case you may overlook it:
“Sir” … you simply lack the grandeur necessary to be able to insult me.
I give you the last word - bye-bye and ... "Mazel Tov". With friends like you the "little, very tiny" State of Israel truly doesn't need enemies. Here too - you seem to lack the ability to understand the difference between physical size and grandness.
The real Israel will still exist and prosper while people like you will be forgotten the moment you stop breathing.
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Sorry I got interrupted. You state: "...however should Islam become dominant the institution may well be brought back." ???? If this makes any sense at all to you (it should as it comes from you) ... you sure have a good explanation as to why all the MUSLIM countries have not yet brought the tax back?!?!? After all they're dominant in their own countries, aren't they?
As you know "much ... much ... more" than I do I'm holding my breath to read your simple and straightforward answer.
ESO529 1 month ago
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DrAvrington 1 month ago
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@ESO529 An answer akin to that given in the presence of the Venetian Marco Polo by Islamic foremost scholar in Cathay to explain the question posed by Kublai Khan; "Why are you not doing as your god commands within your holy book/Qur'an advises?" re: Jihad. Answer: "We are not yet powerful enough". Answered and finished. Again. Thanks for coming out. Salam alaikum habibi SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Are you truly unable to see how childish your efforts are to prove that you have some kind of a rehearsed (or rather looked up for the occasion) knowledge? Shall I give you the sources where to find verbetum your texts? You don't see how infantile your attempts are in mixing everything up and together hoping that people get confused enough to give up? Your inability to give a simple answer to a simple question exposes you and your "knowledge" every time. Never fails.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Again, you've failed to answer any of my questions supplying reason, fact, logic or truths which all here whom have neurons firing above the shoulders can see for themselves. Defamation is the last refuge for non-thinkers. Thanks for trying....accepting utter failure is hard but get used to it. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Again: the point was not Jihad. It is simply not in your fabric to answer a question. QED again. Twist 'n turn and spin - you must feel like a little dreydl - LOL.
"Sevivon Sov Sov Sov" ... Take a rest.
I'm getting bored with you. Reading all of your answers I must conclude that you're obviously a waste of time.
But your last faux-pas is really an excellent joke ... habibi!!! LOL!
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 No "twist and spin" but simply Islamic jurisprudence. Jihad against the Harbis or Kafir is as much of a part of Islam as the jizya is to the dhimmi. Please, your ignorance is starting to show. Again and again you've shown nothing but a lost effort. I'd not play poker if I were you. You've neither the hand nor the bluffing capabilities for it. Thanks again for your worthy efforts. Keep reading Library cards are free... SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
Why is nobody raising an eyebrow that the Israeli and US Gov are in direct negotiations with the Egyptian Salafists – the worst form of extremist Islam which is despised and refused by every normal, decent Muslim?
ESO529 1 month ago
Why is it OK that Rabbis can call for the killing of all Gentiles, it gets endorsed by the Rabbinical Conference and nothing happens? Ministers can call all Arabs a “deplorable nation” and nothing happens. See in comparison the fuss made about articles calling Jews Pigs … and the outcry.
ESO529 1 month ago
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Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
Why is it OK that in order to obtain the citizenship in “democratic “ Israel one has to have a specific (Jewish) religion?
ESO529 1 month ago
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Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
Why is it that roads with the sign: “For Jews only” are OK in “democratic” Israel? And no – there is no Apartheid …
ESO529 1 month ago
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Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
Why is it that gender segregation - enforced by the Haredi – in buses, schools and on streets is OK in “democratic” Israel? Did anyone say Apartheid?
Why is it OK to have the Modesty Patrol in Jerusalem who controls the dress code of women?
ESO529 1 month ago
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Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
Why is it that some 25% of the Israeli population is not entitled to buy property in “democratic” Israel?
ESO529 1 month ago
Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
Why is it that some 25% of the Israeli population is denied their basic human rights like settling where they desire? Freedom of movement?
ESO529 1 month ago
Why is it that the big Jewish communities in Iran, Morocco and other Muslim countries refuse to do Alyia despite huge financial incentives and – when this didn’t/doesn’t work – physical terror by “Israel”?
After all they're "daily" massacred in these Muslim countries, are they not?
ESO529 1 month ago
I picked up that all Israel wants is peace.
Why did Israel then grab the chance and attacked Egypt in 1956 in the shadow of France and Britain? Why did they attack in 1967? Why did they attack Lebanon in 1982 and 2006? Why do they daily fly over the sovereign land of Lebanon? And so on ...
ESO529 1 month ago
I picked up that all Israel wants is peace.
Why is it then that Israel has refused the comprehensive peace plan offered by all Arab nations of 1949 at the Lausanne conference – which failed because of the “intransigence of Israel” = original text of UN doc; yet, the Arabs are always the one who don’t want peace?
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 What about all the other accords which Israel signed and never ever honored? Random: Oslo Accord, Wye River Accord, Annapolis, Road Map, etc. Example: the Road Map was 92% implemented/fulfilled by the Palestinians – 0% by Israel.
Why do they continue at a frentic pace the settlements if all they want is peace?
ESO529 1 month ago
I picked up that all Israel wants is peace.
Why is it then that Israel grabbed over 20% additional land after the partition in 1947 by setting Plan Dalet in action after the announcement? And still is allowed to grab and grab as a quick look at the maps show. Those who can’t access the UN or British Archives may go to Passia.com. It’s all there at a glance.
ESO529 1 month ago
"The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial
demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David's conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule." Illene Beatty, "Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan."
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 (cont) And these 73 or 414 year establish an eternal right at the expense of all all other peoples who lived in the very same land for millenia? If so, what about America, Canada, Australia and - much more important and very recent and not based on some obfuscated history and a (un)holy book - what about the Diego Garcians (1976)?
Why do the indigenious inhabitants of those countries not get their land back if the Jews who not even originate in the land of Shams have that right??
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington The ominous Dhimmi Status – correct it is called “Geziya”: non-Muslims had to pay a tax in the days of old if they lived under Islamic governments. In return they got full protection and were freed from the (obligatory) military service. This tax has been abolished since centuries and was definitely not in place in the 1950s when the “Zabbaleen” emerged in Egypt … another fallacy of “DrAvrington”. Pipes, Horowitz et al destroy not only the knowledge but also the character.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Of course. This is simply obtuse considering this IS a part of Islam itself just like Jihad. Thanks for coming out... SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Oh I see! You mean to say that stating the truth is simple-minded or to be clear: stupid? Then so be it. I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state who has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it???? And Egypt has definitely NOT imposed such taxes over the past centuries. Like it or not. There is no need to throw a temper tantrum.
I don't understand your last comment - but I think it's irrelevant anyway.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 That's right! I'm speaking truth unless you can tell me the Christians in Egypt are living as equal with the Muslim? That Islam allows this equality with the unbeliever? Jizya IS Islam. The Hindus don't burn wives anymore thanks to the Brits! This is not about the Jizya but about this Christian sect in Egypt is it not? Don't understand that Jihad is a Islam you don't understand? Not irrelevant to this subject at all but a foundation for this subject. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
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@DrAvrington It seems you have finished yourself off. You are incapable of making any sense, holding a discussion or of staying with the subject. I fail to find one single true statement in the "zibala" (you should know what that means by now) that you are spouting out all over the place. I really feel sorry for you ... Sir.
I challenge you to come up with one Islamic state who has imposed Geziya tax over the say ... last 100 years. Shouldn't be so difficult, or should it????
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington And while at it - what ever happened to the Canadian, Ugandan, Australian and/or Mozambique projects of the Zionists? Were these places - after looking at them - not (un)holy enough?
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Your answer is The State of Israel re-built on the exact plot of land the entire Western heritage, tradition, culture and mores are based: Israel: Judea: Holy Lands. None of the places you mentioned are related or affiliated to any Western religious precept well except for Islam requires them to be "submitted" one day. Your ignorance is utterly offensive. SRA.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington 1) I sincerely hope you know what you wanted to say with your 1st sentence where you string words and colons together.
2) As for the places I mentioned: ask the WZO why they sent delegations to all those places (and more) to look at the potential of those countries for a future homeland for Jews.
Maybe – just maybe – you should learn the basics of the history you’re talking about and pretend to be THE expert?
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 3) It’s bad if you’re ignorant, it’s worse if you don’t make any effort to educate yourself, but it is certainly a disaster to try, with all your ignorance, to educate others.
I’m no lover of any institutionalized religion but it seems your hatred blinds you all the way. Go get a life!
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 You are right! You are both ignorant and arrogant. Please answer my questions with any intellect whatsoever. It appears that the Zabbaleen are Coptic Christians that pre-date Islam in any event no matter what title one affords them. You've missed my entire point to which I was entirely correct and you were entirely wrong. Aside from my not knowing they were Copts, I am very well informed of Copts and the Oriental Orthodox Church as previously stated. SRA.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Instead of your continuous ad hominem attacks (which I countered with the same I admit) try this for a change:
If you are in a hole - stop digging - LOL!
Now you "claim" (???) that you didn't know that the Zabbaleen are Copts ... but hey! you are very well informed of "Copts and the Oriental Orthodox Church" - WOW is all I can say to that.
Intellectual honesty is a rare commodity in discussions with people of your habitus is all I can say.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Interesting how your attacks and insults stem from a title to a documentary on a sect of Christians living in debased squalor in a Muslim country without any equality or human rights. Intellectual honesty is riddled through all of my posts and albeit none of yours. Perhaps if you knew about the Zabbaleen in the first place you'd not be embarrassing yourself within every aspect of this discussion. Salam alaikum habibi SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Sorry I didn't see your ... answer. It's always interesting and almost rewarding ... to see how you pick up some vocabulary from my answers to you. YOU claim intellectual honesty?!?! You know exactly - or should if your cells have any noticeable function - that the Zabbaleen question was ... just giving you enough rope to expose your ... "knowledge" - LOL.
Keep on dreaming ... make up stories and feel like a "hero" :-). I pitty you - "Sir and Dr" without the "dot".
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 The Jews have ONE tiny state although I don't hear you complain about any of the over 50, once non-Islamic, States that have no human rights whatsoever? You fail to answer HOW these places became "submitted" to Islam while you focus your narrow views toward, and only, Israel. Who cares about the WZO, perhaps you might look at the Arab or Muslim groups that are similar and active today? Never said I was an expert but know much....much...more then you. Thanks for coming out.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington It could be almost worth a study how you continously throughout the whole thread fail to give a simple answer to a simple question. It's almost an art. Is this what you got your "PhD" for?
In order to come out ... one has to be in first. I - as opposed to you - don't feel the urge to play games ... nor do I need titles ... nor do I need to parade "knowledge". I just state facts frm reliable official sources mainly from IL side.
I know the look in the mirror hurts ...
ESO529 1 month ago
Jews have always been the proverbial "canaries in the coal mine"- 1st the Jews and than "others'! Today the Christians in the Arab Middle East-predating the invention of Islam in the 7th century- are becoming part of a "CHRISTIAN FRIE" Middle East that reverberates the words of MALLORY BROWN- NEW YORK TIMES- 1948 PAGE E4! "JEWS IN GRAVE DANGER IN ALL MOSLEM LANDS"- Today there are no Jews left in Moslem lands- and Christians are being decimated - The Arab Spring makes that obvious!
menodimi1 1 month ago
@menodimi1 “Today there are no Jews left in Moslem lands”
Facts and figures tell a different story (figures courtesy of the JA):
From Turkey 17,000 – Azerbaijan 7,900 – Kazakhstan 4,500 – via Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan to Iran – 11,200 - to Iraq, Yemen, Egypt, Ethiopia, Morocco – 5,600 – to Tunisia … etc. Jews live in Muslim lands.
Figures don’t lie – but liars figure ...
ESO529 1 month ago
@menodimi1 Christian population of Israel "proper" in the late 1940s was some 24 % - today they make up hardly 1,3% - excluding Tel Aviv, which has a relatively "big" Christian community due to the diplomatic personnel.
I guess this decimation must have been in anticipation of the Arab Spring!?
ESO529 1 month ago
This entire "conflict" is rooted in revisionist history- a failure of so called"educated "peoples to learn the history of the Middle East and how Islam has usurped the territories of over 50 once non Islamic states. Constantinoples- renamed Turkey- marvel Christian church Hagia Sophia- Saint Sophia- was converted to a Mosque in the 15th century. Muslims built their mosques atop Jerusalems holiest Jewish Temple Mount in the 7th century. Expansionist Islam will not tolerate Jew or CHRISTIAN
menodimi1 1 month ago
@DrAvrington 2) As you saw fit to deliberatly misguide people re “Zabbaleen” and abuse their ignorance let me put a few facts straight:
The “Zabbaleen” are not a “hidden society” nor are they a mysterious community as stated in the video nor are they an “ancient sect” as stated by you. The community of the Zabbaleen is today made up of approx. ¾ Coptic Christians and ¼ Muslims.
Zibala =Arabic word for garbage
Zabal = the garbage collector (singular)
Zabbaleen = the plural of zabal
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 3) As we can see it’s simply a profession like the sanitary engineer in New York.
Now – “Zabaleen” as a known entity started in the late 50’s of last century; hardly “ancient” by all definitions even incl. the Zionists propaganda.
Those who want to know more about them: google for “The Zabbaleen - Cairo's Rubbish Collectors”.
ESO529 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Your link re “Zabbaleen”: The fact that this comes from Germans had to remind me of Dr. Goebbels who comes out smelling like a rose; he pales in comparison into a nice gent from the neighborhood. The video is a despicable production of selective cutting and pasting of little facts to produce a totally false picture and story. They omit totally that directly after the quarter they filmed are the Muslims living in the graves (City of Death) – in even worse conditions then they do.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Mensheyat Nasser (mentioned in the video as THE place where they live, almost hide) is one of the biggest of the 82 slums in and around Cairo and has approx. 1 Mio inhabitants of which less than ½ % are Christians. The video claims that this is the biggest concentration of Christians in Egypt! Obviously a very ignorant statement given the fact that there are roughly 10 Mio Christians (Copts and others).
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 They claim that the biggest church is built there – a quick search reveals that the biggest church (actually a cathedral) is in the center of Abbasseya; it being the biggest one in Africa and the Middle East. And so on and on go the lies and fallacies.
I truly have difficulties reconciling your statement that the "Zabbaleen Christians" is an “ancient sect living under dhimmi status" with the material you should have consulted/consumed before recommending for others to read.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Dear "Dr", after all is said and done ... how come that the extremely rich families of Sawires, Bouthros Ghali, Abel Nour et al - but first and foremost the very rich Coptic Church - doesn't lift a finger to aleviate the plight of their brethrens? After all well over 50% of Egypt's wealth is in the hands of the Coptic establishment - mind you less than 10% of the population is Christian.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Sir, do not insult my intelligence! If you knew anything about the history and spread of Christianity you'd not be spewing your ignorance. "Zabbaleen" Christian, that I stated was simply the term used for these Christians. They are Egyptians that happened to relocate to Cairo. Next you're going to tell me that the Arab-Muslim massacres of the Black Christians in the Sudan are a myth as well and that the Ethiopian Christians don't exist either and are a plant on Muhammadan lands.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Don't worry, there's nothing to insult.
It seems I hit a raw nerve given that you see it fit to go into a temper tantrum after your ignorance has been exposed thanks only to yourself ... Sir! LOL.
Your twists 'n turns don't help and I do not intend to discuss any Christian or Muslim massacres with someone who doesn't adhere to a minimum of intellectual honesty. The subject at hand is Israel - remember?
ESO529 1 month ago
Wonder how this mayor explains the fact that the 99% that is the Arab Middle East- population 300 million- has been ETHNICALLY CLEANSED OF JEWS- And the 1% of the Middle East- 27000 sq km- Israel-- population 8 million- has 1.3 Million Arab/Palaestinian citizens? And the largest part of "Palaestine"- Jordan- 93000 sq km- keeps "PALAESTINIANS" IN OPEN AIR REFUGE CAMPS IN "PALAESTINE"! Explain that?
menodimi1 1 month ago
Jews celebrate 5774 years- Passover! The celebration is rooted in the history of Judaism and Judea! The TEMPLE MOUNT is not a "Palaestinian" Temple-It is a Jewish Temple. Jerusalem is not a "Palaestinian" city it is a Jewish city. King Solomon- King David were not "Europeans"! And Moses- a Jew- was the 1st ZIONIST - he brought Jews to their lands by the word of God- This mayor should take up his argument with God if he does not like the truth! There are no Jewish settlers in Judea!
menodimi1 1 month ago
@menodimi1 Psssst - don't tell anyone but Jerusalem was built long before the apprearance of the Israelites. Jerusalem was built and inhabited by the Jebusites until the Israelites came, massacred and/or expelled them and took possession of what was not theirs in the first place ... any resemblance to today's situation is sheer coincidence!
ESO529 1 month ago
@menodimi1 Do you earnestly mean to day that God himself is a real estate broker? tztztz ... interesting! Does he charge high fees or does he work for free?
ESO529 1 month ago
Israel today is only 27000 sq km out of the entirety of the mandate/ 1922 which carved out new Arab states and one Jewish state which was the smallest territory - 120,000 sq km in size- called"Palaestine"- a name rooted in the Roman war against Judea/ Jew! To allege that a "Jew" is a settler in "Judea"/ "Palaestine" is to promulgate myth in the tradition of Blood Libels! The problen here is that there is a "political agenda" to distant the Jew from Judea! How obvious!
menodimi1 1 month ago
Israel/Judea was turned into a province within Roman Empire called Syria-"Palaestina" by Hadrian in 135. After the War against Jews, in honor of the victory - Titus Flavius Caesar Vespasianus Augustus was honored by his brother / Emperor Titus Flavius Caesar Domitianus Augustus in 82AD Arch of Titus, located on the Via Sacra in Rome. The is proof of the myth of any "Palestinian" people as it clearly shows Jews being lead away after the Roman conquest of Judea not "Palestine"!
menodimi1 1 month ago
True!
diabledesbois 1 month ago
And Israel has not 'stolen' land from the 'Palestinians'. There was never a nation called Palestine. Jews were Palestinians when the Arabs refused to be identified as Palestinians. Israel was offered land, the Arabs were offered land, and the Arabs refused. Jordan is 'Palestine'. Israelis legally purchase land from Arabs, and from the Turks before, when they were the land holders. This is THE BIG LIE. Used against Israel by liars and anti-Semites. Just like the Nazis.
tinydancer1965 1 month ago
@tinydancer1965 Very good. Keep up the honesty. Fact always trumps fictional theory so long as there are those with the moral compass to speak them. The sad realities is that Israel and Jews themselves do not, either learn about or speak openly about these facts themselves. Could you just imagine if Israel and any thinking Christian had of stomped out this "Palestinian" mythology the moment it reared its corruptly fabricated head? There's only one remedy: transfer. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington "There's only one remedy: transfer." I'm astonished - after all what I've read from you - that you advocate the transfer of the Jewish Israeli population back to their homelands. This are true fascist Nazi methods.
I ask though to exclude the Sephardim Jews (Oriental Jews as they are derrogatory called by the Ashkenazis) as they are the true Jews who always lived and always will live in that region.
ESO529 1 month ago
@tinydancer1965 At the time of the "foundation" of Israel, the landownership of the Jews was less than 7% of what was to become Israel.
Source: A Survey of Palestine prepared by the British Mandate for the UN, p. 566. See also the Ministry of Statistics in Israel.
ESO529 1 month ago
This liar is a filthy anti-Semite and Canadians should be ashamed of him. He deserves to be fired from his job. First for spreading outright lies about Israel, and second to make the point that Canada stand with Israel against lies and slander. There is NO truth whatsoever in the slander that Israel is apartheid. Arabs share the same rights as Israelis. Even black Muslims escaping Sudan find refuge in Israel and say it is not racist or apartheid. This man is an outright liar.
tinydancer1965 1 month ago
Very civilized opinion, compared to the outrageous slander and lies of the jewish sect against all nations of the world.
GebeClairEtNet 1 month ago
@Dr. Avrington "Zebaleen Christians" - sounds interesting. Is this a cult, a sect or a faction? Where and when did they originate? Interested to read you - thanks.
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 They are an ancient Christian sect living under Islamic "dhimi" status in Egypt. Of course one does not see the numerous kafir peoples living under Islam due to skewed Western media. Kitman TV has a few good documentaries on the Zebaleen Christian or simply do a search for "The Rubbish People". Regards, SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Sorry - I searched for more specific info but couldnt find any. Your posting does not provide the answer to my questions above ... do you mind to be a bit more specific?
BTW: Why do you refer to them as "rubbish people" - I thought they were supposedly good?
PS: what does "SRA" at the end of your posting mean?
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Go to Kitman TV. Click on Top 25 Films on Islam along the top. Scroll down the page you'll find the documentary "Egypt's Rubbish People". Click Watch online. Enjoy and regards. SRA (initials ;-) )
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington I watched the video but can't find the answer to my question there either. Can you give me a clue when that “Zabbaleen” sect initiated - was that in the year e.g. 250 or 630 AD? Thank you for your patience!
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 Very good question. I know they originally came from the Western deserts of Egypt. So who knows how old they are. Could be as old as the Copts, Maronite, Eastern/Asian Orthodox... No idea. Wikipedia says this community came into Cairo in the early 1900s and settled into this filthy/dump part of the city. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington Interesting! From a definite “They are an ancient Christian sect …” you proclaim now (after a few twitches): “No idea” and you consulted Wiki and tell me something about Western Desert”S” in Egypt (there’s only one) were they originate (acc. to you) to maybe as old as Copts, Maronites, Eastern/Asian Orthodox (whoever the Asian Orthodox are???) … or that this “ancient Christian sect” came to Cairo in the 1900s. Hhhmmm, what do I make with this drivel?
ESO529 1 month ago
@ESO529 My apologies I spelled "e" instead of "a". It is Zabbaleen. SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
He has a right to express his opinion. Period.
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freecanadian77 1 month ago
He said nothing new, except for the fact that he actually said it;) The thing is that he used his right to have an opinion and freely express it - the right everyone have if he is not living in the state under some form of dictatorship. Last time I checked Canada was free country. What is all this noise about?
HolbergEM 1 month ago 2
he's honest
TifaYuki 1 month ago
He declared '' a COUNTRY like this does not deserve to exist''. I agree : any country that doesn't respect human rights and pratice a genocide does not deserve to exist. 70 years ago, it was the Nazis' Germany. Nowadays it's the Zionists' Israel.
GrashnaktheCrusher 1 month ago 2
@GrashnaktheCrusher What kind of ignorance is this? Name one Arab, Communist or Turd World nation, including the United Nations, that gives a farthing about so-called "Human Rights"? "Human Rights" are the biggest sham next to ol-Al and the IPCC. There's not one Muslim Nation that practices or cares about "Human Rights". Give me a bloody break! There are no death camps, genocide, extermination camps in Israel. Your ignorance is offensive! SRA
DrAvrington 1 month ago
I understand you view but totally disagree with your analogy. The tiny country of Israel and its miniscule population wants peace while the surrounding 300 million Muslims Arabs daily declare on TV, media, their hate and wishes to wipe Israel of the map. They even teach their children to hate. If you are as intelligent as you claim to be, please Google IDIOTS FOR PALESTINE and provide a rebuttal about the facts. I look forward to it
tdadler 1 month ago
@tdadler You are entirely correct. The sad fact is that Israel and Jews of all people should be the first to stamp out this replacement theology of any "Palestinian" People. Heck if one delves into historical fact, as displayed via Arch of Titus or the Synagogue of Dura-Europos(now on display at the National Museum in Damascus) the Judean: Jews would be the real "Palaestinian" people if any title should be afforded. Islam won't and can't afford peace with the Kafir especially the Jew.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
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What Stephane Gendron said is not just an abusive and discriminatory statement. It's a call for genocide.
Calling for genocide is not criticism of policies, it is a statement that the object of future genocide is utterly unreformable and incapable of anything good by nature. By biology. By race.
If this call for extermination of at least 6 million (and maybe 8 million) people is not a nazi statement, I don't know what a nazi statement is.
Kurtlane 1 month ago
1. Please show me where Israel threatened anyone with nuclear weapons. You will not find any such evidence, however I tell, if someone tries to kill me I would do all there is in my power to defend myself. Wouldn't you?
2. Re Sri Lanka conflict: Ask your government about it and also ask about what to do about the rest of the Radical Muslim terrorists acts, in England, France, Spain and Lebanon, Turkey etc
3. USA has a lot to gain by supporting Democratic Israel, and it's smart people.
tdadler 1 month ago
FOR EVERYONE WATCHING THIS VIDEO, THE TITLE IS MISLEADING, HE DID NOT SAY THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT DESERVE TO EXIST, OR THAT IT MUST BE DISMANTLED. HE SAID THAT A COUNTRY THAT TREATS THE PALESTINIAN LIKE IT DOES IN THE CURRENT SITUATION DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXIST
cordesensib 1 month ago
@tdadler this was only a media ploy to focus on colonizing the eastern territories, stop treating anyone like a blind children led by a church of hate, because you might grow up to be 30 and realize that your church is just as guilty of propagating hatred as ours is and those pro-alqaeda imam are.
cordesensib 1 month ago
Sorry, but you are wrong again. The Israely army vacated Gaza and as a reward their population got bombarded with 10,000 rackets, being shut from school yeards, school classes and shielding themself behind children. Just forget blind hate, wake up and read and educate yourself. You'll be a better person.
tdadler 1 month ago
bravo monsieur le maire on est avec vous . tout mon respect
pcandlve 1 month ago
One has to be completly blind or Naive, to believe that Israel, a tiny country with only 7 million citizens would be the agressor, when it is surrounded by 300 million hostile Arabs which openly declare their intend to destry the state of Israel. Radical/Barbaric/Militaristic Islam hate of Jewes is the root of the problem in the Mid East and in the world. Please Google USEFUL IDIOTS FOR PALESTINE.
tdadler 1 month ago
@tdadler im sorry but arab r hostil to them cause they are the opressor and they r the occupier . Look what they did in gaza . they put a whole people in a large prison then they say we just defend ourselves . im sorry i dont agree with u
pcandlve 1 month ago
@tdadler Israel introduced the nuclear weapon to the middle when it promised to not do so. it will also bomb Iran in a few month or days for that reason.
What do you think of Sri lanka as a conflict? the first inhabitant are the tamil, why aren't we intervening on their favor?
Pro-israeli people like you think that the united states of america ( Rome) will finance a country that has good or positive aims. they will only finance the wrong and the murderous people,so far they send cash to you
cordesensib 1 month ago
He's not attacking the people or the religion. He is criticising the governement of Israel and their ultra-orthodox mindset. It isnt racist, antisemetic or anything close to that. When one of the main factories in the city that was founded by jews shut down for economic reasons, as mayor he bought the factory and the land and rejuvenated it into a industrial park that he named after those same jews. To call this man antisemetic is ignorant. Criticising a government is not racism.
theslowpilot 1 month ago
"In his latest attacks"? HOW DARE HE USE HIS WORDS TO ATTACK ISRAEL, SHE IS DEFENSELESS AGAINST THE OPINION OF LOCAL QUEBECER TV HOSTS
514SpaceMonkey 1 month ago
Stéphane Gendron a une tête sur les épaules ! À bas le sionisme ! À bas le judaïsme talmudique ! Le premier Dieu monothéiste vient de l'Iran ! Yahweh est un vol ! Tout comme ils ont volé le monopole Hollywood, le monopole médiatique, le monopole banquier et la Palestine ! L'art de redessiner l'histoire et de conditionner de pauvres consciences à un état d'ignorance. C'est l'art de manipuler les symboles. Jésus était roi des Judéens, et non des JUIFS ! UN JUIF, ÇA N'EXISTE PAS !
ThiefLeet 1 month ago
The debate should not be about Jews at all, they are as much victims of how people use them as anyone else and it doesn't solve anything. The polical ideology called Zionism is what people dislike about Israel and why it has been on every news outlets for the last 20+ years reported as a victim while invading and occupying other countries. We should focus on the politics and the lies it has spread since the UN gave the land away while it was inhabited by another people for hundreds of years.
GeofsFilms 1 month ago
@GeofsFilms Just wanted to say you're right in some respects. There are different forms of Zionism. Jews were hated long before Zionism. The minority Jews living in Zion: Israel or the region of Palestine were there long before the Arabs with an unbroken ancestry well into antiquity.The UN also partition/fabricated over a dozen formerly non-Arab/Muslim lands as well. India has their own "Palestinian" state carved out of Indian lands called "Pakistan" but the world focuses on the Jew.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington WW2's lost lesson to the Zionist political party is how to treat others with liberty, respect and dignity. They claim to fight for the jewish people while hiding themselves behind those they claim to protect and I want to add that they are not honoring their fallen forefathers. Attacking a political ideology can succeed in ending the endless conflicts we have been witness to... always trying to make this about a specific people or persons will not.
GeofsFilms 1 month ago
@GeofsFilms Very interesting. Although there are different forms of "Zionism"; Religious Zionism from the Biblical antiquity, Jewish Nationalism and Labor Zionism which I tend to agree was/is a failure due to it being predicated on Socialism/Communism. However, if one seeks the Arabs also host two main forms of sociopolitical (Arab Socialism) and theo-political (Islam), neither of which allows peace with the Jew or Kafir. Regards, SRA.
DrAvrington 1 month ago
@DrAvrington As historically versed as you are and a good observer of the players involved, the only reason people keep having these discussions and racist comments is because at some point, in all of its media manipulation majesty, the ruling political party of Israel was able to convince (to be polite) that criticising its aggressive foreign policies is anti-semite. Deflecting every cruel deed they accomplish and issues they raise to the very people they claim to work for.
GeofsFilms 1 month ago