Norma Jean - A Small Spark Vs. A Great Forest

[hellview89]

asstastic.

[BetaStationX]

im getting a very strong itch to call one of the top's out considering the fact that i'm sure he/she doesn't know shit about genre's and on top of that is boasting such an annoying attitude about it because he/she is well aware that there's no arguing a retarded remark. i'll just say influence doesn't make a genre, influence gives direction but if you wan't to be a good band it cannot be the ONLY direction. Norma Jean is Norma Jean you took your stupidity too far =DDDDD child.

[zombiegolour1986]

ive been headbangin to this all morning and afternoon. I fucking love this band.

[Kilarx11]

bittersweet nostalgia

[blacklotus871]

I honestly had forgotten how much I loved this band until I was looking up The Chariot and found my way back here. Norma Jean oh how I have missed thee!!!! *headbangs*

[JonnyChuleta]

Norma Jean = 8==D~~~~

[3adCompany]

I don't care what genre they are. Their music is still fucking sick!

[Screamer7711]

Redeemer is, in my opinion, NJ's best collective work as an album. Although on a song-to-song comparison, "Memphis will be laid to waste" over shadows any other NJ song :)

[117junki]

I took the time to make a youtube account on this damn website just so i could say HOW MUCH I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG on here. This song could put hair on a babys nuts!!!

[Mobski4ever]

Shut the fuck up wtih the genres already. Metal is metal, not metalmathsupercyberambientkill­ercore, please!

[VideoRoom207]

@Mobski4ever it would be hard as fuck to find exactly what you are looking for if it was all just called "metal", hell lets just call it all Rock.

[xdaytrinx]

Fuderosa.

[screaminghalloween]

haha, you people are idiots. arguing over YouTube about what genre Norma Jean is. smh.

[thehorsehunter]

i love how the tension builds up at 3:40 then bursts on everyone's faces at 3:51

[mariodumalinwa]

I didn't know they were that good before ;o the latest albums aren't as good as this one

[jeeshwa123]

this song is so damn underrated.

[capcokobadazz]

Ur all wrong the genre is suck ass no talent fags core god

[pmgallant]

@capcokobadazz Funny you say that considering your only activity on youtube is favoriting a video by a band that looks like a bunch of girls.

[theekingoftunez]

Everyone chill ur tits!

[A7XXrocks77]

Fuck you all in the ass and rape your mothers for arguing about the fucking genre just enjoy the music stupid ass bitch faggots. Fuck you all fuck you fuck you fuck you just shut the fuck up fucking cunts. :D

[Robo0595]

@A7XXrocks77 LOL nice name, poor commenting skill. Or is it?

[A7XXrocks77]

@Robo0595 I'll leave it up to you c:

[cammydoom]

lol no norma jean is southern core a genre they created and other artists are attributed for like maylene and the sons of disaster. memphis may be layed to rest is the first real southern core song to become mainstream

[valentine69able]

For everyone:

Norma Jean is MATHCORE genre.

Look up a mathcore band called Botch (One of Scogin's main influences)

And then tell me I'm wrong.

[MsAnarcha]

@valentine69able Who cares, its irrelevant. Norma Jean is amazing, and doesn't need to be reinforced by some obscure genre.

[valentine69able]

@MsAnarcha Who cares?

Read the comments.

Nigger.

[MsAnarcha]

@valentine69able Why do you feel the need to use racists slurs? it adds nothing to your statement, neither does it prove it. As i say to all the trolls, if you have nothing intelligent to say, don't bother.

[Sandfight]

@valentine69able Norma Jean is a Metalcore band. Sub-genres don't need Sub-genres.

[BledandUsed]

@Sandfight you do realize metalcore is a sub genre that originally came from metal it self same as hardcore and deathcore grindcore and so on so really its just metal and this isnt Scogin he left after the first album he now is lead in The Chariot and has a self project called A Rose By Any Other Name.

[n00d3l5]

@Sandfight Norma Jean is Mathcore, but for the most part I agree subsub genres are stupid

[blake2112]

@valentine69able

You're wrong, because Botch is straight up metalcore. Like Converge and Integrity. That's what metalcore is supposed to sound like.

Just because they were influenced by a band, does not make them the same genre. Also, mathcore is far more chaotic, and uses frequent changes in complex time signatures. Think more The Number 12 Looks Like You.

[valentine69able]

@blake2112 Mathcore brotha.

[blake2112]

@valentine69able

Nope, sorry. For example, this is whole song is in 6/8. What's mathcore about that?

[valentine69able]

@blake2112 So your telling me that the way one song is, reflects the whole band's genre?

[blake2112]

@valentine69able

No, but I've listened to Norma Jean's discography, and they don't qualify as mathcore. I was just using the song at present as an example.

You said "look up a mathcore band called Botch....then tell me I'm wrong."

This is exactly what you asked for. Yes, Botch influenced NJ, but hardcore bands influenced Fall Out Boy (most members were/are in hardcore projects, Patrick Stump just did guest vox for Weekend Nachos) but you sure as hell wouldn't call FOB hardcore now, would you?

[valentine69able]

@blake2112

Your taking this WAY too far.

Oh, and there mathcore =D

[blake2112]

@valentine69able

I don't think so, it's just a discussion. They're not, but your obstinate attitude, no matter how incorrect, no matter how much I break this down for you, isn't going to change.

It's hardly like I'm insulting them, I'm just pointing out they're not mathcore.

[valentine69able]

@blake2112

Once again,

Your taking this wayyy to far.

=D

[screaminghalloween]

@valentine69able

*you're.

*they're.

[valentine69able]

@screaminghalloween

Are you going to correct the other hundreds of comments from other people that don't give a shit about correct pronunciation on youtube?

Dumb ass.

[screaminghalloween]

@valentine69able hahahaha, pronunciation? it's called English, dipshit. I am not the dumbass, here.

[valentine69able]

@screaminghalloween

*Hahahaha*



[blake2112]

@screaminghalloween

Don't engage him; he'll tell you you're taking it too far and then put a stupid little smile.

[valentine69able]

@blake2112 Sounds like someone's a tad bit jellyyyy.

=DDDDD

[blake2112]

@valentine69able

That doesn't even make sense in this context lol.

[valentine69able]

@blake2112

<3

[VideoRoom207]

@valentine69able old norma was more like it

[QuietIndigo]

@valentine69able you're wrong

[valentine69able]

@QuietIndigo And your opinion matters?

[QuietIndigo]

@valentine69able xD

[valentine69able]

@QuietIndigo exactly.

[QuietIndigo]

@valentine69able this is amazing (:

[TattooCulture]

such a good tune

[villademoros]

WHAT DID YOU SAY!?!?!?

!

[ankanboll]

Well, u r a dickhead anyway... KEEP ON HATING!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111­1111

[ankanboll]

Only screamo that I can listen too, magical and a great albumcover btw

[hXcDiedWithHitler]

@ankanboll

This isn't screamo...

[ankanboll]

@hXcDiedWithHitler  Now it is

[SFLOVER94]

@ankanboll It's not screamo. People just throw that word around when they can't correctly label a band's music genre. In any case it's really hard to define Norma Jean. It's not really metalcore, not really post-hardcore, not really melodic hardcore. It's basically a mixture of all three. Give or take the complexity of the album and how much corey decides to sing or scream on it.

[MattHechtVideos]

@SFLOVER94 Norma Jean TECHNICALLY is metalcore. They have HUGE influences from other genres though. I do put these guys under the "Shouldn't have a genre" in my opinion though, haha.

[ankanboll]

Only screamo that I can listen too, magical and a great cover BTW!

[SFLOVER94]

FIGHT MOTHERFUCKING FAIR!!! The bird says so..

[divinegracebound]

Actually their songs have a lot to do about God. In most interviews when asked about lyrics Cory is constantly talking about God. If you look at ANY song before O Go, The Aftermath you will find constant use of Jesus and God in the songs. The new album has songs that are blatantly God directed. But they are not a band out to shove their beliefs down anyone's throat. They believe what they believe and share it.

Just saw these guys on the 7th on Scream the Prayer. And fell back in love.

[MattHechtVideos]

@divinegracebound I was at that show!

[Leviathan7872]

the intro is quality!

[NateSobie15]

prolly the heaviest song ever written in 3/4 all the way through. thats crazyyyyyyy

[splotkin258]

@NateSobie15 it actually goes to 6/8 for part of it... lol sorry I had to

[demotheses]

@sr1215cl have anything to do with if they are Christian or not. I love songs like "Fathers DIscipline your Daughters" "Songs Sound Much Sadder?" and of course "Memphis WIll be layed to Waste" If you can read those lyrics without seeing the influence of Jesus in this music then you know nothing about music. I hope you can reconsider your position and see how amazing Norma Jean really is.

[demotheses]

@sr1215cl So you have to look deeper into this music man. If you look at their lyrics and their albums as cohesive messages this is obviously Christian music. No it's not the kind of Christian WORSHIP music you're use heaering but Norma Jean is more in line with the songs in Psalms calling out to God in need and 'and voicing their doubts and fears. That's a truely deep devotional kind of expression. All their songs have Christian meaning and just bc they don't shout Jesus over and over doesn't

[savemefrommyselflord]

These guys r Christian right?

[GyratingCritter]

Im not religious and i love this band

[ilikemusic5440]

i have a friend that looks just like the girl.

[sr1215cl]

So I had to look up the lyrics cause I couldn't what they where saying. After reading the lyrics I'm still confused how this is Christ like. If I have these lyrics to a worldly person they wouldn't guess this was a Christian song and if I played it at a secular concert they wouldn't know the difference. It is exactly like worldly music. Who is he screaming "fight fair" too anyways? Is there a single song that this group plays that has the world Jesus, God, Holy Spirit in it, just wondering.

[heyporcelain]

@sr1215cl Well they have albums titled "O God The Aftermath" and "Redeemer." They mention/ say God in their songs "Delimachine," "Shaunluu," "Pretendeavor." Regardless, why does a song have to mention "Jesus, God, Holy Spirit" to be religious? They are singing about morals, values, and general Christian beliefs. Religious or not, they are inspiring- even though that may not be obvious. I almost think it better they don't directly mention God, it leaves room for interpretation from all faiths.

[emnity33]

this song must be epic live

[Lozanochris66]

kewl

[sr1215cl]

I now know what it is to hear the Devil coming in sheep's clothing through music. This is a true sign of the end of days. I'm not trying to judge in any way just trying to open peoples eyes to the tricks of the Devil. Well people have to ask Yahoo if this band is Christian band or not then you know that the message of Gods love has been lost and money now rules. Aren't we supposed to be a "peculiar" people, to stand out from the world and not look like the world? Sad real sad, Come Lord Jesus.

[heyporcelain]

@sr1215cl You say you are not trying to judge, but you are being judgmental. There are many people who love God, but don't like to listen to hymns all day long. While this type of music may not seem spiritual to you, it is for me. It reminds me that no matter the chaos that occurs in life there is always the love of God to bring peace. Is there a "perfect" way to worship Him? No. Because if we were perfect we wouldn't need him. So let us each draw nearer to Him in our own way.

[sr1215cl]

@heyporcelain Of course there is not a perfect way to worship our Father YHWH but only with honor, respect, and humbleness. If you can find God in this type of music, then I'm impressed.

[colossusx7]

@sr1215cl i can i hardcore dance and head bang thats my worship for god he definatley see's us then! :D

[heyporcelain]

@sr1215cl Also, do me a favor and pay attention to these lyrics. You won't hear a catchy tune singing sexual innuendos, etc. But you will hear a lyrical genius warning about the power of our words. Sometimes we say things that can destroy relationships, families, and even nations (think of Mary Antoinette). Yet after the pain we caused there is still hope for us ('let there be grace"). What is wrong with singing about that? P.S. You assume wrong if you think bands like this make a lot of money.

[Typofinn]

The Almighty Norma Jean!

[atari3200t]

this is their most epic album in my opinion. i mean an ending like no passenger, no parasite is hard to top. i love everything by norma jean but this is them at their absolute best in my opinion again.

[TheMurderComplex]

Nostalgia at its finest. So many great memories from this song.

[TheFerchodurango]

their best and only good album...reminds me of the style of music Hot Cross, Loma Prieta and city of caterpillar

[legomeetshalodude]

@TheFerchodurango far from their "only good album" these guys are amazing, and a lot of their stuff sounds like this (or this sounds like a lot of their stuff) so its almost like saying "this chocolate doughnut is better than that chocolate doughnut"

[TheFerchodurango]

their best and only good album...

[seventyx717]

This song makes me want to punch my cat

[blaine1764]

@seventyx717 you should fight fair.

[imjeff3]

this entire album is incredible.

[XAAMX]

This song is simply amazing

[shawnyyy6875]

Fight fair!

[freak690]

great song!!

[Kati3K]

I fell in love with Redeemer today all over again like it was our first time. This song will never get old still gives me shivers. yum.

[drugfreeveganpunk]

so intense

[Blazee2DUB]

This intro is amazing.. then bleh bleh bleh xD

[OSliekWIN]

James 3



[metalminge]

love the intro....ditto

[Karnage515]

I Fuckin love the intro

[devilish89th]

there's just one justin bieber's fan

[Sharkattack1901]

This song makes want to go rogue

[2323jgrant]

In my opinion this is NJ's best album. but thats just me.

[blindone661]

@2323jgrant their new album is pretty fucking good esspecially "deathbed athiest"

[2323jgrant]

@blindone661 yeah it is. with one exception. A media friendly turn for the worse is a rip off of the Thrice song - Under the killing moon

[blindone661]

@2323jgrant yeah im not a big thrice fan so its ok with me besides its a little different and better if u ask me

[2323jgrant]

@blindone661 yeah its better. but they did it without permission as far as i know. so i cant appreciate it.

[merdez99]

@2323jgrant I agree with you !!

[merdez99]

@2323jgrant I agree with you !!

[101piesaregood]

this song is my ringtone

[fradooodle]

My favorite on the album. And one of my favorites from the band as well.

[oBLurPLe]

when the music stops and he yells fight fair near the end it gives me chills.

[whitethrashben]

FIGHT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AphoticAgony]

band is a bad botch ripoff

[redrum351]

@AphoticAgony Botch is bad ass.....

[gbarcks7]

@AphoticAgony LOL

[BreakinGuitarz33]

imo this is the last Great song by Norma Jean

[CoD3fanner21]

ok im getting a drum set....would i need a splash cymbal? and if not then what type of symbal(s) would i need to get?

[ianpatrickbuss]

@CoD3fanner21 really, go into the store, and ask to play on a kit with cymbals, just pick em of the wall and place them on a test set... thats what I do because only you know what you want

[sparhawk16]

I can't explain how much I love Norma Jean. I won't even try. <3

[911KIA]

a truly amazing song.

[kimojemuzu808]

i really disliked screamo type music until one of my friends was playing this and i was like, THA FK!?!? SWWEEETT!!!!

greaty song :D

[crystallygreenery]

i don't know who plays tekken 6, but try starting the opening movie from the game at exactly 1:31 of this song and let them both play. it's pretty cool how they randomly sync up. figured it out by accident a couple days ago.

[kimojemuzu808]

@crystallygreenery HOLY SHYT!!! IT DOES!!! VERY NICE!!!

[cook1tj]

I like this song, his voice just has this "desperate" sound to it that somehow triggers and emotional response from me. It somehow gives me strength when I'm bumming.

[haloplayer94]

yea i think its cause hes screaming his ass off lol

[RTDrovla]

exactly!

[beedee772]

@cook1tj It's the exact same thing for me. Thats why I love this song so much. The music goes perfectly with the vocals.

[Kranatonos]

this song makes me go super saiyan and then i kill people......:D

[skateorlie]

@Kranatonos what an awesome comment! hahahaha

[colossusx7]

@Kranatonos It's A Christian Band Why would You?

[hollisterd00de]

SUCH A GOOD SONG.

[Vik7orBi]

I LOVE IT

NJ FOREVERù

[Disturbed293]

that bird is sweet for biting that little girl :P

[fastmannnnn]

@Disturbed293 its a boy... lol...

[Down4Beats]

@fastmannnnn no, this one is the girl the boy is the other one

[papercutonmybrain]

@Disturbed293 it looks more like its raping her..

[kaumithepig]

@Disturbed293 or is it a lil boy?

[acdcfan969]

best intro every!!!!!!!!!!bad ass alblum cover too

[ClamingTheRight]

love this song!!!

[conkersbfd182]

fuckin amazing song

intro gets me sooo pumped

[Kurapika114]

This song is amazing...and the band too xD

[GreenCoke1994]

im glad someone got this song that isnt live

[jacobraulie92]

omg i freaking agree

i said the same thing when i saw it lol