KRISHNAMURTI : Dialogue on Death - Part 8.

[MyRavand]

THANKS.

[seanolaoi1]

To think for yourself outside of all conditioned knowledge is the way. Especially in the world we live in today more so than any other time. A world of overflowing corporate advertising.

[mp4ever31]

@seanolaoi1 and dont forget sex...

[seanolaoi1]

@mp4ever31 How can you? Impossible. I like this guy and all his wisdom but i'm no catholic peado.

[9samten]

I find K's teaching very honest, excellent. And yet, I know that the Buddha as an excellent teacher pointed out an effective way to self-realization by using certain techniques. He emphasized however questioning everything he said and insisted that at a certain point of understanding one must leave behind/ dissolve all conceptual knowledge to come to self-realization/liberation. He himself became a realized being only by his own hard work and effort.

[Loumademe]

This portion is the breakthrough moment of the conversation. From here all else follows. Thank You.

[RoninATX]

The more I listen to Krishnamurti the more I see the simple message he presents - he is not trying to inform anyone of anything, his aim in just about every lecture is to simply *remove the roadblocks*, the psycological slides, the conditioning that we have been presented and, simply put, "figure it out for ourselves".

[0hmprakash]

There are ways you tell if someone is realized or not. There's a recognizable quality in their voice and mannerisms for one. Also a Gnani will awaken the innate enlightenment within you as you listen to them and the effect of this will be noticeable if you know what to look for in yourself.

[Pentoxid]

Very true. A wise man can awaken one's insight for some reason.

[MrSkinless]

that is a fallacy i think you've missed his points. Because you know what buddah is doesn't mean you are buddah. Because you realize someone has realized doesn't mean you have by looking at them; you must discuss... Your difference or sameness in ideas will prove or disprove your level of understanding.

[theseanze]

@MrSkinless--I think the other side of the point you're attacking is that recognizing wisdom requires a capacity to have it.  As Nietzsche suggested, to speak of great things we must have greatness. Therefore someone who rejects wisdom immediately probably has nothing to do with it. I think listening to wise people has a kind of osmosis at least in spurring the hunger for understanding.

[Chris27tuh]

This man truely was an enlightened being

[Epexode]

You cannot say this unless you are enlightened yourself!

[yadsik]

Even so, an enlightened being would be in bad taste to say such a thing.

[damiasebaticus]

If you are watching K's videos, then here you are. I'm so thankful to be touched by K. I have to thank my dad for being a truth seeker, if I may say. I wish all my loved ones could know K. Or should I say, know themselves.

[okb1313]

Yes he was unique in that he operated from a different consciousness than most others but of course he was human and he never allowed himself to be made into some God (like some other "Gurus"). If he did he would have been much more popular but as he said himself, power destroys the follower and the followed.

[okb1313]

He didn't fit into society and nor did he wish to because he saw it for what it is: corrupt and meaningless.

But his teachings live on and people should listen (if they CAN)!

[damiasebaticus]

Ya know, I went to the Oak Grove School and even K said" Its hard to even have a school" with the egos and all, which I did experience, to a low degree with faculty and all, but its true.

[mytv80]

K's group are morons! sad to say they wasted his time and it couldv'e been more productive but then again..maybe it was. Great video, thanks!

[x3sinfull666]

thats true, eighter he worships you or kills you.

[keithThorton]

Thanks for posting this video. This talk is in the "Can Humanity Change" book I believe.