i think this thing doesn't need new bearings, it probably needed a total overhaul before it could run again properly. new collector rings, a new chopper motor, and bearings... it's a shame people don't repair these relics and instead replace them with pieces of crap like the 2001 and Whelen.
It's obvious this T-bolt is still 75% in good working order. The blower is running smooth, the blower motor is running fine, the rotator is working fine. All that needs rebulit is the chopper motor. $100 bucks to fix. It could even be a bad connection.
But most towns will take a simple $100 dollar fix & turn it into a 3-5K Dollar project.
so is this like a sub culture? You guys are into weather sirens? Not my thing but more power to you. I just clicked on it because I am from O'Fallon. What parking lot is that by the way?
@brianspost75 Not really a culture, per se, but definitely a microscopic group in comparison to the world. Anyway, this is located outside the high school parking lot in O'Fallon.
yeah take it out of its misery T Bolts already faced enough abuse over the past 60 years its been a great while hearing your mighty roar when mother nature makes shit hits the fane but its time to move on (sniff sniff) but at least dont get a stupid 01 or ATI gt maybe a 4004 or maybe a decent 3016, 201s are so stupid though
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Goodbye old chum, you will ALWAYS live on in our hearts even when were dead. Thanks for saving our souls and God Bless You old pal. Goodbye... RIP I can here him crying in the video, he sounds like a sad elephant.
R.I.P. O'Fallon Thunderbolt. May God Rest your Soul. ): (sniff, sniff) WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! God I hate it when people mistreat sirens like that!
@ilikstikz7804 I'd choose a Whelen or an ASC over either a 2001 or an ATI any day! If I'm not mistaken though, this siren was replaced by an ASC T-135-AC, one of the last ones ever made. Maybe Adam could clarify that?
@LouisvilleTorn8o Last I checked, it was still standing. However, that was last year at around this time. I'll take a drive up there tomorrow and find out for sure.
@HyperFlameGuy If it's still standing, I'm curious to know if it's still operational. I'm pretty sure I heard back in 2008 that a T-135-AC replaced it, but the source I heard that from may have been wrong. If this thing is still operational, I'd like to know if it still sounds like this.
@LouisvilleTorn8o As of February 2010, this Thunderbolt still stands, so the replacement claim is false if it was stated in 2008. I have no free test days until June, so I will be unable to check until then. More or less, the problem has been fixed.
@HyperFlameGuy Well, it's good to know that the claim was false, even though the T-135/AC is a nice siren. Could you please try to record this TBolt in June?
*salutes*goodbye,thunderbolt,old pal.u served us well.but now,u are growing old,and are near the end of the line.we will never forget u.*tear falls from eye*
This isn't cool at all. The county or city, or whoever is in charge of the siren system let this poor thunderbolt go. Now it sounds like a whelen ith dying batteries.
@crazysirenboy: if this thunderbolt is still up, where is it located? i found 2 thunderbolts, one by the high school and another by casey's general gas station.
The one in the video is at the high school. It is still standing. There's another by a nearby elementary school, one near the O'Fallon 15, an Allertronic near Chiro-Med, and one near another elementary school somewhere in the northeast part of town. I'm uncertain about any other sirens in O'Fallon.
@twotailedavenger the thunderbolt saw a truck carrying a bunch of 2001s and started crying. i know that comment was 8 months old but when i saw it it actually made me tear....
Apparently nothing as it's still standing and supposedly in service at the high school. Makes me wonder if they either decided to fix/replace the chopper assembly, or just leave it the way it is (if the latter is the case, it's probably toast by now).
I drove by there an hour ago and saw that the Thunderbolt is indeed still standing. Didn't have time to get good pictures, though, so I had to stay in my car and take them.
it sounds like its struggling to go on like it really does but it cant. i wish they replaced it with another thundebolt. stupid whelen replaced it. i dislike whelens so much. LONG LIVE THE THUNDERBOLT
I don't know anything about sirens, so please tell me what is meant by Chopper Motor. if the reason for the unsteady sound is caused by a bad electrical connection, whouldn't it be arcing out due to a loose wire?
Anyone know if this has been replaced / fixed? Too lazy and not enough time to take a trip up there myself, even though its about twenty minutes away.
can you please report that to your town.. its neds to be fixed asap.:)
MegaPrincessmeg 3 weeks ago
Never quite gets to full blast.... poor tbolt. Sad sounding.
vixenaya 3 months ago
thats sad i love t-bolts
Stickymajorwow 4 months ago
Sounds like a cow going into labor.
tplow95 4 months ago
Drunk thunderbolt?
SSAirsoftowns 4 months ago
Sounds like its crying, kind of a perfect setting for 9/11. Makes me wanna cry.
TheFiremansavage 5 months ago
i think its stupid how a $20 repair cost them $30K for a POS 2001 that needs several thousand dollars in batteries every 5 years
that money can be going for better things than a non-reliable 2001
hootergirlsrhot 6 months ago
awwwwwwwwwwwwww...... he sounds sad:(
soccerk8te38 6 months ago
This siren was repaired some time ago, and sounds perfectly healthy.
crazywarriorman 6 months ago
i think this thing doesn't need new bearings, it probably needed a total overhaul before it could run again properly. new collector rings, a new chopper motor, and bearings... it's a shame people don't repair these relics and instead replace them with pieces of crap like the 2001 and Whelen.
cheetawolf 7 months ago
@cheetawolf
Well, it's hard to get the parts these days. Sad, ain't it? :(
freebrickproductions 5 months ago
@freebrickproductions take a rotator form an early 2001, a model 2 chopper/motor, and their brushes. problem solved...
cheetawolf 5 months ago
@cheetawolf
What about the blower? I'm pretty sure that not many sirens, if any, are supercharged these days.
freebrickproductions 5 months ago
dont sound like its rotating either but it does need bearings with a nice new chopper motor
lilaj34siren 7 months ago
I believe I've heard something like this in proximity to a pod of humpback whales!
Zickcermacity 8 months ago
We will now have a moment of silence to pay our respects to this tragic loss of life in the siren community
DjPyro2010 8 months ago
i would shit my pants if this went off in the middle of the night for a tornado
Marc7665 8 months ago 7
It's obvious this T-bolt is still 75% in good working order. The blower is running smooth, the blower motor is running fine, the rotator is working fine. All that needs rebulit is the chopper motor. $100 bucks to fix. It could even be a bad connection.
But most towns will take a simple $100 dollar fix & turn it into a 3-5K Dollar project.
papabugs71 9 months ago
@papabugs71
One siren goes bad and they replace the whole system.
twotailedavenger 8 months ago
@papabugs71 if it just needs new brushes its only like 15 bucks but rebuilds will be far greater than 100
dirtracer4life63 8 months ago
@dirtracer4life63 I hear ya man. Im sure it needs new bearings as well.
papabugs71 8 months ago
Sounds like a chick getting laid
PIMPINGANGSTERNINJA 9 months ago
Sounds like NASCAR races when the cars go past the camera!
RockabillyAutopsy 9 months ago
Somebody put that whale out of it's misery! It's not a whale? Then shut it up!!
DarkLadyKagome 10 months ago
Wrong...This siren is near the HS. The new siren is not electronic.
Pilot135R 10 months ago
Sounds like racers
meerkat006 10 months ago
poor thing
skodas 10 months ago
sounds like me in the middle of the night when i dont feel well!!
TheThunderboltFreak 10 months ago
sounds horrible
EMTDON158 10 months ago
Thunderbolt alternate wail hahahah to bad for that poor siren
ilikesirensandhockey 11 months ago
Now it was replaced by an elecronic siren. . .
TboltHurricane 11 months ago
thats not sick its dying
ALLERTORLOVER69 11 months ago
Issue with power... Maybe a phase is dead???
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 11 months ago
Wtf?! Sounds like a ghost
HotChocolate200 11 months ago
so is this like a sub culture? You guys are into weather sirens? Not my thing but more power to you. I just clicked on it because I am from O'Fallon. What parking lot is that by the way?
brianspost75 1 year ago
@brianspost75 Not really a culture, per se, but definitely a microscopic group in comparison to the world. Anyway, this is located outside the high school parking lot in O'Fallon.
HyperFlameGuy 11 months ago
its moaning
iwnproductions 1 year ago
yeah take it out of its misery T Bolts already faced enough abuse over the past 60 years its been a great while hearing your mighty roar when mother nature makes shit hits the fane but its time to move on (sniff sniff) but at least dont get a stupid 01 or ATI gt maybe a 4004 or maybe a decent 3016, 201s are so stupid though
JKSK8ERLIVE 1 year ago
someone give that poor guy a 5 hour energy
soonernut 1 year ago 8
@soonernut Hours of energy, no crash later! ahah
JKSK8ERLIVE 1 year ago
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soonernut 1 year ago
Imagine it (being a 1003) doing Hi-Lo like this..
rykember11 1 year ago
Wow...that sounds like a sick cow calling for its death....
LilBee17 1 year ago
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lego1993 1 year ago
I didn't even know that a Thunder Bolt siren could produce this creepy eerie and haunting sound the echo makes it sound scarier. really sad. :(
GTASAModder1 1 year ago
:( I am so sad
megs905 1 year ago
sounds like needs new coper motor brushes
DRNEGOLICIS 1 year ago
Poor old guy. He's really sick
dualactionsurgilator 1 year ago
I remember when this happened, I thought a whale was dying.
SonicKillMario 1 year ago
sounds like random people making noises.
1965hypatia 1 year ago
godd its creepy sounding, it gave me chills for some reason lol
The18Jake 1 year ago
Please, don't leave us here, old thunderbolt. You may be old, but your heart is as warm as the sun.
Howcast26 1 year ago
Goodbye old chum, you will ALWAYS live on in our hearts even when were dead. Thanks for saving our souls and God Bless You old pal. Goodbye... RIP I can here him crying in the video, he sounds like a sad elephant.
Howcast26 1 year ago
Thunderbolt.Thanks for helping us to save our lifes from tornado.R.I.P
Rexang1 1 year ago
crying in pain
10cmsub 1 year ago
SICK
FEDERALSIGNALTECH 1 year ago
R.I.P. O'Fallon Thunderbolt. May God Rest your Soul. ): (sniff, sniff) WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! God I hate it when people mistreat sirens like that!
Minitrucker231 1 year ago 2
Can it be fixed? If it can't, it's destined to be replaced by a cruddy Whelen or ATI.
thisissparta789789 1 year ago
@thisissparta789789,if it is replaced with an ATI,im just gonna cry!(lol that rhymed)
ATIs are shit!!
they shouldnt even exist!
ilikstikz7804 1 year ago
@ilikstikz7804
A 2001 would be a better replacement. And that's really saying something.
twotailedavenger 1 year ago
@twotailedavenger,agreed.id choose a 2001 over an annoying ATI!!
ilikstikz7804 1 year ago
@ilikstikz7804 I'd choose a Whelen or an ASC over either a 2001 or an ATI any day! If I'm not mistaken though, this siren was replaced by an ASC T-135-AC, one of the last ones ever made. Maybe Adam could clarify that?
LouisvilleTorn8o 1 year ago
@LouisvilleTorn8o Last I checked, it was still standing. However, that was last year at around this time. I'll take a drive up there tomorrow and find out for sure.
HyperFlameGuy 11 months ago
@HyperFlameGuy If it's still standing, I'm curious to know if it's still operational. I'm pretty sure I heard back in 2008 that a T-135-AC replaced it, but the source I heard that from may have been wrong. If this thing is still operational, I'd like to know if it still sounds like this.
LouisvilleTorn8o 11 months ago
@LouisvilleTorn8o As of February 2010, this Thunderbolt still stands, so the replacement claim is false if it was stated in 2008. I have no free test days until June, so I will be unable to check until then. More or less, the problem has been fixed.
HyperFlameGuy 11 months ago
@HyperFlameGuy Well, it's good to know that the claim was false, even though the T-135/AC is a nice siren. Could you please try to record this TBolt in June?
LouisvilleTorn8o 11 months ago
@LouisvilleTorn8o I cannot guarantee anything, but I shall try to do so.
HyperFlameGuy 11 months ago
@thisissparta789789 It can be fixed easily but i dont know if they will.
TheFiremansavage 1 year ago
@TheFiremansavage They did.
crazywarriorman 1 year ago
@crazywarriorman Good to know it didnt get replaced, someone finally mad the right decision, and didnt waste money on 30,000$ worth of crap.
TheFiremansavage 1 year ago
@TheFiremansavage lol, you've got that right.
mohkfry 1 year ago
@crazywarriorman did they fix it, or is it gone?
amtrak3501 1 year ago
@amtrak3501 They fixed it.
crazywarriorman 1 year ago
@crazywarriorman oh sweet! somebody oughta get a rerecording of this siren
amtrak3501 1 year ago
Can It ever be repaired and restored?
Droideka133 1 year ago
:( x300
gerbilPROJECT 1 year ago
@Kaleighrox2 no it needs to be referbished
bohrokthunder 1 year ago
aww poor thing man i hate to see a tbolt so hurt and sounding badly but thats why its loud enough to alert the people to hide in the basement
bohrokthunder 1 year ago
its crying
AZNFlipy12 1 year ago
Hearing this siren in that much pain just makes me sad
twelka3 1 year ago
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thisissparta789789 1 year ago
*salutes*goodbye,thunderbolt,old pal.u served us well.but now,u are growing old,and are near the end of the line.we will never forget u.*tear falls from eye*
ilikstikz7804 1 year ago
Noo Somebody take it to the hospital!! :(
Myrandomthoughts15 1 year ago
Sounds like a pack of wolves!
gowestward1 1 year ago
t bolt is crying:(
AZNFlipy12 1 year ago
This isn't cool at all. The county or city, or whoever is in charge of the siren system let this poor thunderbolt go. Now it sounds like a whelen ith dying batteries.
Ouranos94 1 year ago
@HyperFlameGuy: ok thanks 4 all the info.
amtrak3501 1 year ago
@crazysirenboy: if this thunderbolt is still up, where is it located? i found 2 thunderbolts, one by the high school and another by casey's general gas station.
amtrak3501 1 year ago
The one in the video is at the high school. It is still standing. There's another by a nearby elementary school, one near the O'Fallon 15, an Allertronic near Chiro-Med, and one near another elementary school somewhere in the northeast part of town. I'm uncertain about any other sirens in O'Fallon.
HyperFlameGuy 1 year ago
@HyperFlameGuy Allertronics FTW. Alteast modern ones, not the Whelen-like ones.
Tabby266 1 year ago
oh man....this sound makes me sad cause the sirens in pain. :-((
form109 1 year ago 9
Alright, that is a creepy fucking sound.
brianchris4 2 years ago 12
Is this soposed to be a Thunderbolt 1000
or a 1000T
garyhstorms09 2 years ago
1000. The siren is single-tone and does not have any solenoids on the sides.
HyperFlameGuy 2 years ago
@garyhstorms09 This is a 1000. It doesn't "roar" like the 1000t does.
HardDriveGuru 1 year ago
The poor Thunderbolt! Sounds like somebody slacked off on the maintenance.
HardDriveGuru 2 years ago 2
poor poor tbolt why did he have to go like this whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
luppuny11 2 years ago 2
I see the thunderbolt
97Siren 2 years ago
poor thunderbolt.....
vistanerd3840x2400 2 years ago
What kind of signal is it trying to make out? Attack? Alert?
sweetsusan69 2 years ago
sweetsusan69, Alert..
Tabby266 2 years ago
The EMA needs to fix the t-bolt.
rnbsteenstar 2 years ago
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hahaahahaaa, someone shoot that thingg [: baha
^ ^ u
xJennyyy07 2 years ago
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somebody SHOOT that thing!
aco52672 2 years ago
D`-:
flippy941 2 years ago
Wow. Never heard one this bad. I agree with Hawkplaya94....dying whale. Pretty fuckin funny tho!
KSE828 2 years ago
sounds like a dying whale
hawkplaya94 2 years ago
FIX THE T BULT that no way 2 have the best scrine sounding
gohabsgo1fan 2 years ago 3
whats it going to get replaced with
whelenvortexr4 2 years ago
i would just have it fixed
gohabsgo1fan 2 years ago
cool
whelenvortexr4 2 years ago
a 2001-130
97Siren 2 years ago
darn
whelenvortexr4 2 years ago
OMG this brings back memories of when the thunderbolt by my house blew its chopper motor
rhett443 2 years ago
I remember hearing this. It was....painful to listen to. Could you imagine if it was like this during the storm this past June?
UO51777 2 years ago
boy, right as the siren winds down you can hear the beeping of a truck backing up to take the siren down
sentry40V2T 2 years ago 3
the thunderbolt saw a truck carrying a bunch of 2001s and started crying.
twotailedavenger 2 years ago 19
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cheetawolf 2 years ago
but what if the truck was taking the 20001's to the junk yard
TheFiremansavage 2 years ago
@TheFiremansavage hehehe nice... LOL
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@twotailedavenger the thunderbolt saw a truck carrying a bunch of 2001s and started crying. i know that comment was 8 months old but when i saw it it actually made me tear....
BulletNational 1 year ago
@twotailedavenger And then It heard a radio playing a justin bieber song. Then it cried harder to block out the ear bleeding shit.
whateves10111110 1 year ago
@whateves10111110
Whelen Vortex: *singing justin bieber*
Thunderbolt: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!1
twotailedavenger 1 year ago
@twotailedavenger xD LOL!!!!
whateves10111110 1 year ago
@twotailedavenger
T-Bolt:*sees trucks*OMG NOOO IMA BE REPLACED DAMN YOU NEW SIRENS!*cries*WAH!!!!!
ilikstikz7804 1 year ago
If I was there, I would disregard the volume and hug the pole!
Let's hope it wasn't replaced by one of those nasty 2001s!
twotailedavenger 2 years ago
Speaking of which, what replaced this poor Thunderbolt after it literaly screamed itself to death?
twotailedavenger 2 years ago
Apparently nothing as it's still standing and supposedly in service at the high school. Makes me wonder if they either decided to fix/replace the chopper assembly, or just leave it the way it is (if the latter is the case, it's probably toast by now).
murrfarms 2 years ago
I drove by there an hour ago and saw that the Thunderbolt is indeed still standing. Didn't have time to get good pictures, though, so I had to stay in my car and take them.
HyperFlameGuy 1 year ago
it doesnt need to be replaced just fixed i could do it with my bear hands
TheFiremansavage 2 years ago
o rly?
twotailedavenger 2 years ago
ya im a geniouse with the thunderbolts
TheFiremansavage 2 years ago
Good night sweet prince "unplugs" "tear"
realisticsocialist 2 years ago 6
its death cry
ororo0monroe 2 years ago
They need to fix the poor thing!
rnbsteenstar 2 years ago
RIP O'Fallon T-bolt. ????-2009.
Thunderbirds76 2 years ago
That is one sick puppy!
seawind0721 2 years ago
i listened to a thunderbolt in Mendon,MI and it sounded similar to this but not as bad
amtrak3501 2 years ago
poor siren!!!!!!! it sounds like its in pain. Its crying out for help!!!!!!!!
KevinJuris 2 years ago
:'(
gerbilPROJECT 2 years ago
Thunderbolt? Or swarm of angry bees armed with kazoos?
cdikkers 2 years ago
poor t-bolt!!! {starts crying} WAHHHHHHH!
ilikstikz7804 2 years ago 3
I have never felt so much sympathy for a siren before - it sounds like it's hurting and in pain!
JSB1983 2 years ago 25
@JSB1983 The bearings are bad so its taking most of its power to destroy the bearings and the brushes are bad because of the fluctuating sound
AcaAllertor127 1 year ago
This is what the Thunderbolt at a school near me sounded like before they replaced it. Sadly, it wasn't even a 1000! R.I.P.
dockwellian45 2 years ago
its kind of psychedelic... like a Hendrix solo...
TroySundt 2 years ago
RIP "OH FALLIN" Tbolt
JRCollinsfan 2 years ago
sadly it doesn't sound like a thunderbolt anymore poor thing
littlesirenboy 2 years ago 15
NO put a p50 motor on it!
Rageman1112 2 years ago
its like its death wail T_T
cheetawolf 2 years ago 3
Sounds like a failed chopper field winding. RIP t-bolt
Antipwnsurmum 2 years ago 2
R.I.P Buddy.
TBolt1000T 2 years ago
sound like a cuica
smarrtster239 2 years ago
it totally reminds me of silent hill
beglebite 2 years ago
that is the CREEPIEST sound ive EVER heard!!
dillonrockband 2 years ago
it sounds like its struggling to go on like it really does but it cant. i wish they replaced it with another thundebolt. stupid whelen replaced it. i dislike whelens so much. LONG LIVE THE THUNDERBOLT
loryr405 2 years ago 3
That is one scary-sounding siren.
BellyLover06 2 years ago
R.I.P. Thunderbolt.
loryr405 2 years ago 2
Man. That's sad :( At least we know it served its purpose well for many years.
cauberallies 2 years ago
yes it will have a proper memorial service LOL RIP TBOLTS
JKSK8ERLIVE 2 years ago 2
i have recently found out this siren has been replaced with a 2900 series whelen
2T22b 2 years ago
Sad to see it go. I do know that there's one still up near the Garden Ridge in O'Fallon.
HyperFlameGuy 2 years ago
A WHAT?! DAMN WHELENS! [ship horn sound]
twotailedavenger 2 years ago
I don't know anything about sirens, so please tell me what is meant by Chopper Motor. if the reason for the unsteady sound is caused by a bad electrical connection, whouldn't it be arcing out due to a loose wire?
Lachlant1984 2 years ago
The chopper motor is what drives the chopper to make the sound.
FoamPackingPeanuts 2 years ago
i think that this thonderbolt is a 1000 but in dis repair
to the best siren in the history
thonderbolt 1960-2008
russelD9 2 years ago
the siren needs repair
DANorth1995 3 years ago
Who set it caught on fire? It's been replaced anyway
Blue10AEMia 3 years ago
Do you know if it has ever been repaired or replaced?
carexpertandy 3 years ago
It has O Fallon IL went with ASC AL 8000s Ive seen at least 2 in the last month in that neck of the woods
metallicandtornadic 3 years ago
i live in ofallon
DoubleJVideos 3 years ago
Anyone know if this has been replaced / fixed? Too lazy and not enough time to take a trip up there myself, even though its about twenty minutes away.
HyperFlameGuy 3 years ago
Really bad brushes, I'd say.
LNERMallard 3 years ago
It sounds sick because the brushes in the chopper motor are wearing off a bit.
gatrwrks 3 years ago
I agree it's the brushes also could be the blower too and also could be a bad electrical connection so sad seeing a thunderbolt in such bad shape.
It needs a new chopper motor.
Federal Still makes the chopper
Jcc3279 3 years ago