Wing evolution 4of4

[supawooky]

Can anyone help me out with a documantary on Insect wings evolution in particular? just noticed that i don´t know anything about it.

Also they forgot to mention the flying fish.

[f00tstep]

Some blind humans figured out echolocation. Unfortunatly for it to work well there has to be no other outstanding noise in the area.

[PhantomSephiroth]

Maybe we should give creationists a little chance. Imagine how interesting documenteries would be if science concured with religion....

''God made them that way, end of story.''

....Okay, forget about it.....

[Pssybart]

I only wish they'd spend a bit more time on insect flight. I understand it's relatively unknown though. Appart from that, great documentary! It really shows the similiarities and differences between all flying animals. We've spent billions of dollars on trying to build better airplanes but all we're better at is velocity. Even the most advanced jets are not as manouvrable as hawks or bats.

[N00bcrunch3r]

@Pssybart

Well I know nothing about insect evolution--something I would like to know, too.

[MalchikBlue]

@Pssybart I'd suggest you look into it. You'll find the flippers and gills on water insects and insect wings similar.

[Mesopotamiangod]

thank you!

[cynthus850]

Very, very, interesting.

[Cephalochordata]

Hmm, there appears to be a mixup @ 1:15 where Leon Claessens is labeled as Matt Wedel, the guy from 1 minute earlier.

[DancingHorses26]

The bat expert in this video says that you can't think of flight and echolocation as separate in bats, but I think that's wrong. Evolutionarily speaking, one (probably flight) would have had to have come before the other. I bet that primitive bats didn't have echolocation.

[Cephalochordata]

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Hi DancingHorses26. You should try and watch this video.

I think you'll like what comes up 5:40 minutes into it ;)

[DancingHorses26]

Cephalochordata,

Thank you for pointing me to that video. You were right. I was tickled pink. :)

[oggleman]

thank you for posting these

[kclem69]

Great series. Thanks.

[320iguy]

thanks DJ that was an amazing series, i like the part with bats. they truly are a remarkable species.

I am glad the the SciCom is getting back on track and doing the stuff we like rather then proving how ridiculous religion is.

[ramette99]

this was a very interesting, educational and entertaining programme - thanks!

[MikeOfKorea]

Love it!  Thanks

[deadman12078]

I would have liked to see some fossel records showing slight changes from one species to another.

As front claws gradually or rapidly changed over tens of thousands of years to become brouder and longer until the animal is airborne.

It's a very interesting documntarty regardless.

[Cephalochordata]

Yup it would have been nice, but no definite fossils of pre-Eocene bats have been found. They could easily have shown a parade of fossil theropod dinosaurs with gradually longer and thinner finger bones, though.

[grebrim]

great programme, thank you for posting

[AbdultheImpailler]

Great doc DJ, thanks for posting, I think I'll watch it again!!!

[TrollN3m3s1s]

Cience is beautifull!!

[magick205]

Holy Crap! The Chain Room @ 08:44. Anybody else see Pinhead in there? JK. Really good series there djarm67. 5* to all!

[RyuDarragh]

I had exactly the same thought :D What did it was *everything* is painted black, otherwise it would be an S&M club :P

[PinkProgram]

I'll need to keep the avian air sacks in mind for my design specifications ^_^

[RyuDarragh]

Heh.. might be a good adaptation for a dragon, but I don't know what it would do to the shapliness of a female form humanoid. You might try using Second Life to simulate such an experiment and see how it would look :)

[PinkProgram]

Appearance has nothing to do with it. I'm strictly judging by functionality.

[RyuDarragh]

Then go with a modified myosin structure as used by electric eels and you can generate electrical energy, too. And, if you modify some peroxisome organelles to generate nanoscopic superconductors of the right shape, you could, in theory, interract with gravitational fields using electrical energy :)

[PinkProgram]

I've already planned to incorporate electroplax cells into my design... I'll need to look into peroxisome organelles. All my simulations of wingless flight end with the body torn apart by shear forces and stress. Random electromagnetic pulse propogation also wreaks havoc with the prosthetic brain system o.O

[RyuDarragh]

These would be special strands of muscles that generate electrical energy which in turn is fed into the (for want of a better term) gravisomes. These type of organelles manufacture crystals and nano particles in human bodies that act as anti-oxidents and places where hard to handle chemicals get broken down. In this usage, they would allow precisely controlled gravity manipulation (some have already noted the theoretical link between the Meissner Effect, micowave energy and superconductors).

[UppruniTegundanna]

Google "God Introduces New Bird" and look for the Onion article, if want to know how it REALLY happened.

[Kattarina98]

Are you referring to the "Onion" parody? That was hilarious.

[Paxmax]

I'ts very ingenious that bats move at night when there is no air predation possible, great niche.

Hehe, evolution is a fine way to establish to nature is in balance with natural resource management without ... management!

[djarm67]

No. Primarily the insectivorous bats. Many fruit eating bats don't.

[sunlitekid01]

yeah I researched it.. Thats why i took off the comment :P

the microbats use it ...........megabats dont..

[anmarupappa]

Why on earth would a sane person vote these videos down? I'm somehow sensing that the question also reveals the answer...

[CptUnknown]

Very informative series. Thank you.

[gregrutz]

Great Video.