This is shocking! Shoghi Effendi never appointed a second guardian. Mason Remeys ego kicked in to gain power and thus became a covenant breaker. DONT BOTHER TELLING ME TO GO TO YOUR SITE, THANKS BUT NO THANKS.
u are all covenant breakers. Mason Remey was one of the 27 hands of the cause who SIGNED that Shoghi Effendi did not appoint a succesor. and later he claims to be the gaurdian? even his followers knew that he suffered from dimentia. as Baha'u'llah says 'eschew any felloship with the unGodly' may God lead you to the light.
"This flow, moreover, will presage and hasten the advent of the day which, as prophesied by `Abdu'l-Bahá, will witness the entry by troops of peoples of divers nations and races into the Bahá'í world..." Citadel of Faith pg. 117
This "entry by troops" is occurring right now as the world is finally being educated about the reality of Baha'u'llah as a descendant of King David fulfilling the Everlasting Covenant of the Bible, which is not taught out of haifa.
there is somenthing wrong in this video...and its in 2.19 YOU are adding a "New one" "The UHJ whit the Davidic KIng" no jodas chico who say THAT,nonono..i would like to see pictures or videos of this UHJ that you say is stablesehd in the USA. how are you organizated, its weard to know about you near to the international convention in HAifa..can you tell me where Baha`u`llah teach this "the UHJ whit the Davidic King" BTW entrybytroops its a term developed by the UHJ in HAifa...robando aaaaahhh!!
This is not a "new one" at all. The Institution of the UHJ as conceived by Baha'u'llah, further deliniated by 'Abdu'l-Baha & established by Shoghi Effendi on Jan. 9, 1951 is explicitly recognized by the fact that it MUST have an executive branch from the throne-line of David (Baha'u'llah sat upon the throne of David) as its head (Rais).
The term "entrance by troops" is from the writings of 'Abdu'l-Baha.
ok you are right. can you show in a video like this where exactly says :The UHJ whit the Davidic KIng. i went in to the web page seems to be a war defence. why there is NOT any video with this grand sons of abdulbaha speaking what about you are saying??... have you ever consider that you sound like convenent breakers???
There is a good video here on youtube with the current guardian, the great-grandson of 'Abdu'l-Baha, speaking about some of these things. The video is called "Covenants & Catastrophes".
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "a war defence". Can you clarify?
The purpose of Baha'u'llah's UHJ is prophesied of in the Book of Isaiah, where the UHJ is called the "House of the Lord" which all nations shall flow to & by it peace with justice will come to the whole earth.
Isaiah 9 prophesies that the Prince of Peace, which is Baha'u'llah, will be seated "upon the throne of David" & that this throne-line of kings is promised to last forever as the Sign of God.
S.Effendi did NOT appoint a GUARDIAN. Hands did NOT give assent. Kitab-I-Aqdas ENVISAGES the ministry of the Hands and UHJ w/o the Guardian. S.Effendi knew Abdul-Baha better than the Covenant-breakers. He knew what he was doing by not leaving a will, no one was good (acc. to him and W&T of Abdul-Baha). The person who directs you today is a descendant of the Covenant-breakers (acc. to Shoghi Effendi). Remey was not Aghsan (male descendant) -- adopted one does not count. Stop brainwashing people.
The current guardian is a descendant of King David from the same family of Baha'u'llah of those that went up into Russia, not originally of the throne line, who has been grafted into the throne line at this time.
You saying it "does not count" is just an excuse for your non-acceptance of the continuation of God's Everlasting Covenant.
Shoghi Effendi appointed the ONLY son & therefore Aghsan of 'Abdu'l-Baha, Charles Mason Remey, as the Head (RAIS) of the IBC/UHJ.
Wow, this is some knowledge to think about. But I have doubts. Can you explain that in the Kitab-I-Aqdas one paragraph #42 envisages the existence of the UHJ w/o the Guardian? And also wasn't the Guardian supposed 2b frm the Aghsan?? The Guardian after Shogghi Effendi was not from what I know. Didn't The first Guardian Himself call the people "Covenant-breakers"? I am now confused, because this is what I have heard from people, who call themselves "Baha'is" as well. Could you please comment?
That paragraph in the Aqdas refers to the offering of money for charity (different from Huquq), which was 1st to be given through the Aghsan 1st, that being 'Abdu'l-Baha followed by Muhammad Ali, who subsequently broke the covenant & was replaced by Shoghi Effendi. Then, once the IBC/UHJ was established, this type of fund would be under the control of the IBC/UHJ as a WHOLE (Body & Head), not just the Aghsan.
'Abdu'l-Baha adopted as his son an American, Charles Mason Remey, grafting him onto the Aghsan Tree. Anyone who says that The Master didn't have the authority to do this is going against the 'Abdu'l-Baha.
Shoghi then appointed Mason Remey (the only remaining Aghsan still firm in the covenant) as the Head (Rais) of the IBC/UHJ in 1951, of which in the Will & Testament it says that the guardian is the "sacred head [Rais] and distinguished member for life" pg. 14
I suggest going to uhj dot net & reading the articles you find there.
Also, bupc dot org has a lot of very educational reading.
It's not my job to "convince" you of anything, just to proclaim that Baha'u'llah's true UHJ DOES exist in the world in the exact form prescribed by 'Abdu'l-Baha.
In haifa, they have NO executive branch, therefore according to pg. 15 of the Will & Testament, they are not in line with the covenant.
The burden of investigation is on you. I'm here to help.
Dude, you are too persistent to be genuine. And if you are not trying to convince than why you bother to answer every single post? The psychological trick behind this is too aparent to me, even if you do not notice it. Thank you and goodbye. Surely will not go to your webpages, sorry again. Have a happy life. Please, do not comment, because I get unwanted e-mails in my box.
the people or person who did this video.....defently covenant breakers...... no man im not scare of holy scripture i am aware of bahaullah recognition....im scare of people like YOU....only looking for RECOGNITION, selfglorification....no man hope you find the light and see that bahaullah or god its not in places its in you.....angry may be you fighting for power...mind disturbin...psts...c ya....hope to meet you some day
This video does not purport to put forth information about one's personal spiritual relationship with God, which is indescribable to any but the individual.
The purpose of this video is to highlight that God has a Plan to bring Peace with Justice to the world, & that only by following this Plan which Baha'u'llah has brought can the world get out of the mess it's currently in.
For that, whether you like or not, God has given the line of David as a Sign & Point of Unity. God bless you.
ok....so you are saying that the UHJ in israel its nothing but lies..mjm, ok how did you realise that this what you are saying its the true? and now you are trying to star a little war of power, why this grand son of abdulbaha do not clame for what (sound) should be his place to be, where are your main offices? where is this "true" UHJ stablish?
The true Twin Institutions of the Guardianship & the UHJ are located today in the Rocky Mountains of the United States, the New Jerusalem prophesied of in the scriptures.
This isn't a "war of power", but is our duty as loyal Baha'is to teach the Cause & educate hearts.
You can contact the true UHJ with the great-grandson of 'Abdu'l-Baha as its president (Davidic) at uhj dot net.
i did!!! i connected to the webpage, but still to me somenting strange.........the new jerusalem? Prophesied??? como? que? no no man...respect to you but.....ok places, memberships, names, renames, recognition, are nothing if you dont have god in your heart.... sounds to me like a convenet breakers or whatever......scare me a lot...hope God iluminate and guide the mankin...just follow what bahaullah said and keep your heart pure of intention....NOT FANATIC
I agree that if we don't have God & Love in our hearts, then everything is for nothing. I also agree that we should follow everything that Baha'u'llah, 'Abdu'l-Baha & Shoghi Effendi said. But that's the problem with the group in Haifa, that they went against what Baha'u'llah, 'Abdu'l-Baha & Shoghi Effendi established & replaced it with their own plan.
Sorry that the prophecies of the holy scriptures scare you. Are you aware that Baha'u'llah fulfills prophecy as the Return of Christ?
ok man i am aware.......what scare me its to know that there are people that its doing this mess that you are doing....hope to meet you some day to show you what this "group of haifa" that you call and they`r "plan" that you say, bring to the community, not only bahai, some hope, warmest, spirituality, and a great felling of nearnest to God.....sorry for you (angry) of your NO ReCoGnItIoN.....No man you are looking for somenthing else...no pure of intention...no consultation."!"¿pics?
I'm not saying anything about individuals that call themselves Baha'i, as I've met many very wonderful people, however misguided they may be, from all walks of life.
Is there something in this video that is not correct? If so, please be specific about it rather than getting flustered.
i wont say anything about covenant breaking, but will say that what you have done is taken a beautiful faith, just the way it is, & made anyone who views this video totally confused. & what would would you say to the someone who says, 'ok, yes i believe you. now what?' the main thing that sticks out in this effort is a great lack of care, that you can clearly see how offended people are by this & you still choose to respond to everyone with the same sad confirmations that you have come up with
To anyone that accepts the true Cause of God, the Path is clear. All are free to live the life, teach the cause & be firm in the covenant & win their personal stations.
If they wish to actively participate in the Administration of God's Kingdom on earth, they need only contact the true UHJ (uhj dot net) with the descendant of King David as its president, & they will receive guidance.
not much will be done about this because it makes no sense. you wont have any followers here my friend. and what would be there point? the faith, as i said, is beautiful as it is. why try and make it MORE than what it is. one that so many bahais have given their lives for. you spit on their back once again with this nerdy edit project. i would open a comic book store. really though, this is not guidance, i would not even be interested in God if it was as complex as you have made it.
Can you be at all specific? What in this video "makes no sense" to you? I agree that the Baha'i Faith is beautiful as it is under the Provisions of God's Covenant.
The thousands of martyrs you speak of (God's blessings upon every one of them) sacrificed their lives so that this good news (gospel) of God's Kingdom (Davidic) on earth could be proclaimed to all people, & along you come, speaking against the proclamation of God's Plan.
I don't seek "followers". Only God is to be followed.
This is a bunch of covenant-breaking material. I may be a Baha'i that has declared two years ago (and I don't know everything), but I can tell that this is material from a covenant-breaker.
Trust me, I know many Baha'is in my area that have been Baha'is for a long time (and have great knowledge of the Baha'i Faith). If they saw this, they would probably think the same thing about it. Furthermore, I'm not personally calling you a convenant breaker. I don't have the authority to do that. I'm simply saying that the video appears to have some content that a covenant breaker may have come up with.
If can be specific about what "content" concerns you, I would be happy to address your concern.
As it is, you have not brought anything forward that is wrong with this video, only to label it as "covenant breaking material" and being "from a covenant-breaker"
Those are bold accusations. Now do you have anything substantial from the Baha'i Writings to back up your accusations?
By the way, I have knowledge about the Guadian and the transition of the Guardianship to the Universal House of Justice. I also know about the Aghsan family tree. DO NOT think I don't know much about these things (or the Faith in particulcar). I've learned a lot since I had declared. And like I've said, I'm surrounded by a lot of knowledgeable Baha'is. And I do know about the concept of the independent investigation of Truth.
What do you mean by "transition of the Guardianship"? There is no such provision in the Covenant.
I'm sure you have "learned a lot" from the people you're surrounded by, just like new "Christians" learn "a lot" from their clergy & congregations. This does not mean that what you have learned is true.
The Institution of the Guardianship is alive and well, with a living Aghsan guardian seated on the throne of David today as President of the true UHJ (uhj dot net)
"legally" being the son of Abdu'l-Baha does not cut it. Madonna had a son from Malawi. Not the same lineage, just an agreement. As such, since all descendents (Aghsan) has broken ranks with Shoghi Effendi during his lifetime, he did not appoint a successor. Presidency of IBC is a far cry from successorship. Shoghi Effendi would have been amply clear about this if he thought that Mason Remey met the criteria. He did not, therefore, the Faith only had one Guardian. No pope figure for you!
'Abdu'l-Baha grafted Mason Remey into the Tree as Aghsan, which refers to Branches of a Tree, defined by Shoghi as the "sons" of Baha'u'llah. There is NO definition of a "blood relative" at all. Mason Remey is the legitimate "real son" (as written by Shoghi Effendi) of 'Abdu'l-Baha & therefore of Baha'u'llah back to King David, continuing the Everlasting Covenant. The guardians after Shoghi Effendi are not individually infallible. Only the full UHJ WITH Head & Body is "freed from error"
That is quite a serious accusation. What led you to believe that you personally have the authority to declare such a thing? Perhaps you are not acquainted with the Baha'i Faith & its core teachings & writings on the subject. Often when people lash out with such serious accusations without offering any support, it is a sign of ignorance.
Do you have any support for your statement? Is this the way you normally behave?
My soal is deeply saddened to see the lies that are being spread by the covenant breakers I urge whoever made this ignorant video to pray and find your peace with god before your idle fancies and vain imaginings cause you to be forever cutoff from the one true god
One has to first violate the Covenant of God to become a "covenant breaker". Can you point out anything in this video that is not in line with the Kitab-i-Ahd or Will & Testament, which together comprise the Baha'i Covenant?
Who are the "covenant-breakers" but those that have gone against the Will & Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha, having NO EXECUTIVE BRANCH (W&T pg. 15), claiming Shoghi Effendi broke the covenant by not appointing a successor as he was COMMANDED by the Master! Read uhj dot net & be set free.
Can you explain what you mean by "weird and hateful"? What is hateful about teaching the Oneness of Humanity & that God has a Plan and keeps His Promises? We Baha'is teach that the Covenant of Peace in the Bible is fulfilled in the Baha'i Faith, as Baha'u'llah is that great descendent of King David, the Return of Christ, the Everlasting Father. The Covenant to David that there will always be a man seated on the throne (Executive Branch) is to safeguard the true Kingdom.
There are no proofs for the guardianship of Charles Mason Remey, he was a lier. So it is clear that the Universal House of Justice has the right to declare somebody a covenant breaker and Mason Remey IS a covenant breaker. Shoghi Effendi has left no will and testament.
'Abdu'l-Baha in the Will & Testament says that it is "incumbent" upon the guardian to chose a successor, and that if he has no children that he "must" choose another BRANCH (Persian: GHUSN) meaning a male descendent of Baha'u'llah & thus King David. This Shoghi did faithfully by appointing the IBC/UHJ with the ONLY SON & AGHSAN of 'Abdu'l-Baha as president, thus guardian, as the guardian is the executive branch. Mason is legally the Son of 'Abdu'l-Baha.
Are you saying that Shoghi Effendi broke the covenant? 'Abdu'l-Baha wrote that Shoghi "MUST" appoint a successor & that this was "INCUMBENT" upon him to do, meaning he had NO CHOICE. If Shoghi didn't fulfill the Covenant, then you are saying that he broke it. Nowhere in the Will of the Master does it say the guardian must choose a successor in a will & testament, does it?
Can you name ANY "distortion of the truth" in this video? Did you know that ONLY the guardian of the Faith can declare anyone a "covenant breaker" & so therefore you are going outside of the Provisions of the Will & Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha by making that statement? Take some time to investigate the truth & not just go by what you've been told. This is the 2nd principle of the Baha'i Faith: Independent Investigation of Truth.
I don't have pity on the "Hands" & Ruhiyah Khanum, as they knew full well what they were doing when they went against Shoghi Effendi's successor. I do have pity on those that have been duped by them however, as I think most people just aren't educated on what happened at Shoghi's passing. They've simply allowed themselves to be seduced by the dark side, so to speak.
Only the Hands have the right to determine who the successor of Shoghi Effendi is, according to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha. Most Baha'is are well educated on what happened. That's why they remain firm to the Covenant.
Nowhere in the Will & Testament does it say what you are claiming. The passage about "consent" was explained by Shoghi Effendi; he said it DID NOT give the Hands the right to overrule the decision of the guardian. Don't the people read?!
I didn't say "consent". They are the ones who determine who the Guardian chose. The Guardian did not appoint anyone and that's what they determined. Their determination is unquestionable. It's a safety measure to ensure that self-serving pretenders like Remey could never usurp the Guardianship.
Where does the Will & Testament say that they "determine who the Guardian chose"? Where does Shoghi Effendi explain that this is what that passage means? Please, enlighten us with your references.
"...and these, whether unanimously or by a majority vote, must give their assent to the choice of the one whom the Guardian of the Cause of God hath chosen as his successor. This assent must be given in such wise as the assenting and dissenting voices may not be distinguished (i.e., secret ballot)."
"does not imply that the Hands of the Cause of God have been given the authority to overrule the Guardian. 'Abdu'l-Baha could not have provided for a conflict of Authority in the Faith." The passage quoted furthermore DOES NOT say they are allowed to "determine" anything. You are adding to the Will. They have no Executive. They have no Guardian. They have no UHJ. They've lost the Covenant.
Well, obviously you gravely misunderstand the Will and Testament and the Covenant, to your own detriment. As revealed in the Surah of Kafirun: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."
meaculpa,
Paul wrote:
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed [greek:sperma:male sperm] of David according to the flesh" Romans 1:3 KJV
What makes you think that Paul didn't proclaim Jesus as a descendant of King David?
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
This is shocking! Shoghi Effendi never appointed a second guardian. Mason Remeys ego kicked in to gain power and thus became a covenant breaker. DONT BOTHER TELLING ME TO GO TO YOUR SITE, THANKS BUT NO THANKS.
natalierashidi 3 years ago
baha u llah was muslum
mtlpersian25 3 years ago
i hope ur not blocking my comments
agahjoon89 3 years ago
u are all covenant breakers. Mason Remey was one of the 27 hands of the cause who SIGNED that Shoghi Effendi did not appoint a succesor. and later he claims to be the gaurdian? even his followers knew that he suffered from dimentia. as Baha'u'llah says 'eschew any felloship with the unGodly' may God lead you to the light.
agahjoon89 3 years ago
pasahit,
"This flow, moreover, will presage and hasten the advent of the day which, as prophesied by `Abdu'l-Bahá, will witness the entry by troops of peoples of divers nations and races into the Bahá'í world..." Citadel of Faith pg. 117
This "entry by troops" is occurring right now as the world is finally being educated about the reality of Baha'u'llah as a descendant of King David fulfilling the Everlasting Covenant of the Bible, which is not taught out of haifa.
entrybytroops dot org.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
there is somenthing wrong in this video...and its in 2.19 YOU are adding a "New one" "The UHJ whit the Davidic KIng" no jodas chico who say THAT,nonono..i would like to see pictures or videos of this UHJ that you say is stablesehd in the USA. how are you organizated, its weard to know about you near to the international convention in HAifa..can you tell me where Baha`u`llah teach this "the UHJ whit the Davidic King" BTW entrybytroops its a term developed by the UHJ in HAifa...robando aaaaahhh!!
pasahit 3 years ago
pasahit,
This is not a "new one" at all. The Institution of the UHJ as conceived by Baha'u'llah, further deliniated by 'Abdu'l-Baha & established by Shoghi Effendi on Jan. 9, 1951 is explicitly recognized by the fact that it MUST have an executive branch from the throne-line of David (Baha'u'llah sat upon the throne of David) as its head (Rais).
The term "entrance by troops" is from the writings of 'Abdu'l-Baha.
Contact the UHJ @ uhj dot net for more info.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
ok you are right. can you show in a video like this where exactly says :The UHJ whit the Davidic KIng. i went in to the web page seems to be a war defence. why there is NOT any video with this grand sons of abdulbaha speaking what about you are saying??... have you ever consider that you sound like convenent breakers???
pasahit 3 years ago
pasahit,
There is a good video here on youtube with the current guardian, the great-grandson of 'Abdu'l-Baha, speaking about some of these things. The video is called "Covenants & Catastrophes".
Check it out.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
pasahit,
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "a war defence". Can you clarify?
The purpose of Baha'u'llah's UHJ is prophesied of in the Book of Isaiah, where the UHJ is called the "House of the Lord" which all nations shall flow to & by it peace with justice will come to the whole earth.
Isaiah 9 prophesies that the Prince of Peace, which is Baha'u'llah, will be seated "upon the throne of David" & that this throne-line of kings is promised to last forever as the Sign of God.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
S.Effendi did NOT appoint a GUARDIAN. Hands did NOT give assent. Kitab-I-Aqdas ENVISAGES the ministry of the Hands and UHJ w/o the Guardian. S.Effendi knew Abdul-Baha better than the Covenant-breakers. He knew what he was doing by not leaving a will, no one was good (acc. to him and W&T of Abdul-Baha). The person who directs you today is a descendant of the Covenant-breakers (acc. to Shoghi Effendi). Remey was not Aghsan (male descendant) -- adopted one does not count. Stop brainwashing people.
sajmonowski 3 years ago
saj,
The current guardian is a descendant of King David from the same family of Baha'u'llah of those that went up into Russia, not originally of the throne line, who has been grafted into the throne line at this time.
You saying it "does not count" is just an excuse for your non-acceptance of the continuation of God's Everlasting Covenant.
Shoghi Effendi appointed the ONLY son & therefore Aghsan of 'Abdu'l-Baha, Charles Mason Remey, as the Head (RAIS) of the IBC/UHJ.
uhj dot net
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
Wow, this is some knowledge to think about. But I have doubts. Can you explain that in the Kitab-I-Aqdas one paragraph #42 envisages the existence of the UHJ w/o the Guardian? And also wasn't the Guardian supposed 2b frm the Aghsan?? The Guardian after Shogghi Effendi was not from what I know. Didn't The first Guardian Himself call the people "Covenant-breakers"? I am now confused, because this is what I have heard from people, who call themselves "Baha'is" as well. Could you please comment?
TROLLPL 3 years ago
TROLLPL,
That paragraph in the Aqdas refers to the offering of money for charity (different from Huquq), which was 1st to be given through the Aghsan 1st, that being 'Abdu'l-Baha followed by Muhammad Ali, who subsequently broke the covenant & was replaced by Shoghi Effendi. Then, once the IBC/UHJ was established, this type of fund would be under the control of the IBC/UHJ as a WHOLE (Body & Head), not just the Aghsan.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
TROLLPL,
'Abdu'l-Baha adopted as his son an American, Charles Mason Remey, grafting him onto the Aghsan Tree. Anyone who says that The Master didn't have the authority to do this is going against the 'Abdu'l-Baha.
Shoghi then appointed Mason Remey (the only remaining Aghsan still firm in the covenant) as the Head (Rais) of the IBC/UHJ in 1951, of which in the Will & Testament it says that the guardian is the "sacred head [Rais] and distinguished member for life" pg. 14
entrybytroops dot org
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
well, this doesn't convincce me sorry
TROLLPL 3 years ago
TROLLPL,
I suggest going to uhj dot net & reading the articles you find there.
Also, bupc dot org has a lot of very educational reading.
It's not my job to "convince" you of anything, just to proclaim that Baha'u'llah's true UHJ DOES exist in the world in the exact form prescribed by 'Abdu'l-Baha.
In haifa, they have NO executive branch, therefore according to pg. 15 of the Will & Testament, they are not in line with the covenant.
The burden of investigation is on you. I'm here to help.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
Dude, you are too persistent to be genuine. And if you are not trying to convince than why you bother to answer every single post? The psychological trick behind this is too aparent to me, even if you do not notice it. Thank you and goodbye. Surely will not go to your webpages, sorry again. Have a happy life. Please, do not comment, because I get unwanted e-mails in my box.
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sajmonowski 3 years ago
the people or person who did this video.....defently covenant breakers...... no man im not scare of holy scripture i am aware of bahaullah recognition....im scare of people like YOU....only looking for RECOGNITION, selfglorification....no man hope you find the light and see that bahaullah or god its not in places its in you.....angry may be you fighting for power...mind disturbin...psts...c ya....hope to meet you some day
ojoncom 4 years ago
ojoncom,
This video does not purport to put forth information about one's personal spiritual relationship with God, which is indescribable to any but the individual.
The purpose of this video is to highlight that God has a Plan to bring Peace with Justice to the world, & that only by following this Plan which Baha'u'llah has brought can the world get out of the mess it's currently in.
For that, whether you like or not, God has given the line of David as a Sign & Point of Unity. God bless you.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
ok....so you are saying that the UHJ in israel its nothing but lies..mjm, ok how did you realise that this what you are saying its the true? and now you are trying to star a little war of power, why this grand son of abdulbaha do not clame for what (sound) should be his place to be, where are your main offices? where is this "true" UHJ stablish?
ojoncom 4 years ago 3
ojoncom,
The true Twin Institutions of the Guardianship & the UHJ are located today in the Rocky Mountains of the United States, the New Jerusalem prophesied of in the scriptures.
This isn't a "war of power", but is our duty as loyal Baha'is to teach the Cause & educate hearts.
You can contact the true UHJ with the great-grandson of 'Abdu'l-Baha as its president (Davidic) at uhj dot net.
God's blessings
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
i did!!! i connected to the webpage, but still to me somenting strange.........the new jerusalem? Prophesied??? como? que? no no man...respect to you but.....ok places, memberships, names, renames, recognition, are nothing if you dont have god in your heart.... sounds to me like a convenet breakers or whatever......scare me a lot...hope God iluminate and guide the mankin...just follow what bahaullah said and keep your heart pure of intention....NOT FANATIC
ojoncom 4 years ago
ojoncom,
I agree that if we don't have God & Love in our hearts, then everything is for nothing. I also agree that we should follow everything that Baha'u'llah, 'Abdu'l-Baha & Shoghi Effendi said. But that's the problem with the group in Haifa, that they went against what Baha'u'llah, 'Abdu'l-Baha & Shoghi Effendi established & replaced it with their own plan.
Sorry that the prophecies of the holy scriptures scare you. Are you aware that Baha'u'llah fulfills prophecy as the Return of Christ?
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
ok man i am aware.......what scare me its to know that there are people that its doing this mess that you are doing....hope to meet you some day to show you what this "group of haifa" that you call and they`r "plan" that you say, bring to the community, not only bahai, some hope, warmest, spirituality, and a great felling of nearnest to God.....sorry for you (angry) of your NO ReCoGnItIoN.....No man you are looking for somenthing else...no pure of intention...no consultation."!"¿pics?
ojoncom 4 years ago
ojoncom,
I'm not saying anything about individuals that call themselves Baha'i, as I've met many very wonderful people, however misguided they may be, from all walks of life.
Is there something in this video that is not correct? If so, please be specific about it rather than getting flustered.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
i wont say anything about covenant breaking, but will say that what you have done is taken a beautiful faith, just the way it is, & made anyone who views this video totally confused. & what would would you say to the someone who says, 'ok, yes i believe you. now what?' the main thing that sticks out in this effort is a great lack of care, that you can clearly see how offended people are by this & you still choose to respond to everyone with the same sad confirmations that you have come up with
OrnamentProductions 4 years ago
Ornament,
What do you mean, "now what"?
To anyone that accepts the true Cause of God, the Path is clear. All are free to live the life, teach the cause & be firm in the covenant & win their personal stations.
If they wish to actively participate in the Administration of God's Kingdom on earth, they need only contact the true UHJ (uhj dot net) with the descendant of King David as its president, & they will receive guidance.
There is much to be done. God's blessings.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
not much will be done about this because it makes no sense. you wont have any followers here my friend. and what would be there point? the faith, as i said, is beautiful as it is. why try and make it MORE than what it is. one that so many bahais have given their lives for. you spit on their back once again with this nerdy edit project. i would open a comic book store. really though, this is not guidance, i would not even be interested in God if it was as complex as you have made it.
OrnamentProductions 4 years ago
Orn,
Can you be at all specific? What in this video "makes no sense" to you? I agree that the Baha'i Faith is beautiful as it is under the Provisions of God's Covenant.
The thousands of martyrs you speak of (God's blessings upon every one of them) sacrificed their lives so that this good news (gospel) of God's Kingdom (Davidic) on earth could be proclaimed to all people, & along you come, speaking against the proclamation of God's Plan.
I don't seek "followers". Only God is to be followed.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
This is a bunch of covenant-breaking material. I may be a Baha'i that has declared two years ago (and I don't know everything), but I can tell that this is material from a covenant-breaker.
mcanelo 4 years ago
mcanelo,
Then as a young Baha'i you may not be aware that according to the Baha'i Holy Writ, you have no right to declare anyone a "covenant-breaker".
Have you independently investigated the information in this video?
How can you "tell"? Is it because this video explains that God's Covenant continues & is not broken?
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
Trust me, I know many Baha'is in my area that have been Baha'is for a long time (and have great knowledge of the Baha'i Faith). If they saw this, they would probably think the same thing about it. Furthermore, I'm not personally calling you a convenant breaker. I don't have the authority to do that. I'm simply saying that the video appears to have some content that a covenant breaker may have come up with.
Also, please review what God's covenant is.
mcanelo 4 years ago
mcanelo,
If can be specific about what "content" concerns you, I would be happy to address your concern.
As it is, you have not brought anything forward that is wrong with this video, only to label it as "covenant breaking material" and being "from a covenant-breaker"
Those are bold accusations. Now do you have anything substantial from the Baha'i Writings to back up your accusations?
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
By the way, I have knowledge about the Guadian and the transition of the Guardianship to the Universal House of Justice. I also know about the Aghsan family tree. DO NOT think I don't know much about these things (or the Faith in particulcar). I've learned a lot since I had declared. And like I've said, I'm surrounded by a lot of knowledgeable Baha'is. And I do know about the concept of the independent investigation of Truth.
mcanelo 4 years ago
mcanelo,
What do you mean by "transition of the Guardianship"? There is no such provision in the Covenant.
I'm sure you have "learned a lot" from the people you're surrounded by, just like new "Christians" learn "a lot" from their clergy & congregations. This does not mean that what you have learned is true.
The Institution of the Guardianship is alive and well, with a living Aghsan guardian seated on the throne of David today as President of the true UHJ (uhj dot net)
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
"legally" being the son of Abdu'l-Baha does not cut it. Madonna had a son from Malawi. Not the same lineage, just an agreement. As such, since all descendents (Aghsan) has broken ranks with Shoghi Effendi during his lifetime, he did not appoint a successor. Presidency of IBC is a far cry from successorship. Shoghi Effendi would have been amply clear about this if he thought that Mason Remey met the criteria. He did not, therefore, the Faith only had one Guardian. No pope figure for you!
berjiss 4 years ago
berjiss,
'Abdu'l-Baha grafted Mason Remey into the Tree as Aghsan, which refers to Branches of a Tree, defined by Shoghi as the "sons" of Baha'u'llah. There is NO definition of a "blood relative" at all. Mason Remey is the legitimate "real son" (as written by Shoghi Effendi) of 'Abdu'l-Baha & therefore of Baha'u'llah back to King David, continuing the Everlasting Covenant. The guardians after Shoghi Effendi are not individually infallible. Only the full UHJ WITH Head & Body is "freed from error"
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
Covenant Breaker rantings.
wstgrannis 4 years ago
wstgrannis,
That is quite a serious accusation. What led you to believe that you personally have the authority to declare such a thing? Perhaps you are not acquainted with the Baha'i Faith & its core teachings & writings on the subject. Often when people lash out with such serious accusations without offering any support, it is a sign of ignorance.
Do you have any support for your statement? Is this the way you normally behave?
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
My soal is deeply saddened to see the lies that are being spread by the covenant breakers I urge whoever made this ignorant video to pray and find your peace with god before your idle fancies and vain imaginings cause you to be forever cutoff from the one true god
Joebones9 4 years ago
Joebones,
One has to first violate the Covenant of God to become a "covenant breaker". Can you point out anything in this video that is not in line with the Kitab-i-Ahd or Will & Testament, which together comprise the Baha'i Covenant?
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
I would like to ask you a question about the Manifestations of God. If you are interested, please contact me. :D
agreeableviews816 4 years ago
silly covenant breakers. youve taken the Baha'i Faith and tried to turn it into something weird and hateful. lol how cute.
KMehrabi 4 years ago
KM,
Who are the "covenant-breakers" but those that have gone against the Will & Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha, having NO EXECUTIVE BRANCH (W&T pg. 15), claiming Shoghi Effendi broke the covenant by not appointing a successor as he was COMMANDED by the Master! Read uhj dot net & be set free.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
KM,
Can you explain what you mean by "weird and hateful"? What is hateful about teaching the Oneness of Humanity & that God has a Plan and keeps His Promises? We Baha'is teach that the Covenant of Peace in the Bible is fulfilled in the Baha'i Faith, as Baha'u'llah is that great descendent of King David, the Return of Christ, the Everlasting Father. The Covenant to David that there will always be a man seated on the throne (Executive Branch) is to safeguard the true Kingdom.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
There are no proofs for the guardianship of Charles Mason Remey, he was a lier. So it is clear that the Universal House of Justice has the right to declare somebody a covenant breaker and Mason Remey IS a covenant breaker. Shoghi Effendi has left no will and testament.
hsayli 4 years ago
hsayli,
'Abdu'l-Baha in the Will & Testament says that it is "incumbent" upon the guardian to chose a successor, and that if he has no children that he "must" choose another BRANCH (Persian: GHUSN) meaning a male descendent of Baha'u'llah & thus King David. This Shoghi did faithfully by appointing the IBC/UHJ with the ONLY SON & AGHSAN of 'Abdu'l-Baha as president, thus guardian, as the guardian is the executive branch. Mason is legally the Son of 'Abdu'l-Baha.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
hsayli,
Are you saying that Shoghi Effendi broke the covenant? 'Abdu'l-Baha wrote that Shoghi "MUST" appoint a successor & that this was "INCUMBENT" upon him to do, meaning he had NO CHOICE. If Shoghi didn't fulfill the Covenant, then you are saying that he broke it. Nowhere in the Will of the Master does it say the guardian must choose a successor in a will & testament, does it?
adamjacob9 4 years ago
This video is a gross distortion of the truth and the small organization reprresented here are themselves covenant-breakers
jdesson 4 years ago
jdesson,
Can you name ANY "distortion of the truth" in this video? Did you know that ONLY the guardian of the Faith can declare anyone a "covenant breaker" & so therefore you are going outside of the Provisions of the Will & Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha by making that statement? Take some time to investigate the truth & not just go by what you've been told. This is the 2nd principle of the Baha'i Faith: Independent Investigation of Truth.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
Covenant-breakers.... How pitiful.
DarthMaul8065 4 years ago
DarthMaul,
I don't have pity on the "Hands" & Ruhiyah Khanum, as they knew full well what they were doing when they went against Shoghi Effendi's successor. I do have pity on those that have been duped by them however, as I think most people just aren't educated on what happened at Shoghi's passing. They've simply allowed themselves to be seduced by the dark side, so to speak.
BahaiFaithVideos 4 years ago
Only the Hands have the right to determine who the successor of Shoghi Effendi is, according to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha. Most Baha'is are well educated on what happened. That's why they remain firm to the Covenant.
DarthMaul8065 3 years ago 3
DarthMaul,
Nowhere in the Will & Testament does it say what you are claiming. The passage about "consent" was explained by Shoghi Effendi; he said it DID NOT give the Hands the right to overrule the decision of the guardian. Don't the people read?!
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
I didn't say "consent". They are the ones who determine who the Guardian chose. The Guardian did not appoint anyone and that's what they determined. Their determination is unquestionable. It's a safety measure to ensure that self-serving pretenders like Remey could never usurp the Guardianship.
DarthMaul8065 3 years ago
Darth,
Where does the Will & Testament say that they "determine who the Guardian chose"? Where does Shoghi Effendi explain that this is what that passage means? Please, enlighten us with your references.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
The passage from the Will speaks for itself:
"...and these, whether unanimously or by a majority vote, must give their assent to the choice of the one whom the Guardian of the Cause of God hath chosen as his successor. This assent must be given in such wise as the assenting and dissenting voices may not be distinguished (i.e., secret ballot)."
DarthMaul8065 3 years ago
Darth,
Shoghi explained that the passage you quote
"does not imply that the Hands of the Cause of God have been given the authority to overrule the Guardian. 'Abdu'l-Baha could not have provided for a conflict of Authority in the Faith." The passage quoted furthermore DOES NOT say they are allowed to "determine" anything. You are adding to the Will. They have no Executive. They have no Guardian. They have no UHJ. They've lost the Covenant.
BahaiFaithVideos 3 years ago
Well, obviously you gravely misunderstand the Will and Testament and the Covenant, to your own detriment. As revealed in the Surah of Kafirun: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."
DarthMaul8065 3 years ago