more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
violence but at the sametime i am not against using violence in self defense i don't call it violence when it's self defense i call it intelligence or nobody can give u freedom a real man will take it. even thou allot of people whant freedom think it can be gained by peace this country and others dont have a king bacause of a rovolution the only thing this mothefuckers understand is violence power never takes a step back unless in the face of more power think free ur mind.im open 2 comments
Why don't you ask Sean Hannity about how the Ron Paul supporters viewed Sean's "independent thought". After all the Ron Paul supporters chased after him for about a block trying to intimate him.
Ron Paul is the best. Most consistent politician I've ever seen. He has made some amazing predictions, and they came true. Most anyway, and I'm sure his new predictions are going to come true as well
Look at what Ron Paul has said through out the past 30 years. He is conservative, and liberal by today's standards. But, 30 years ago, he would be considered purely conservative.
He is for the people's right to choose, and he's for a small government, and free trade in addition to non-intervention
Paul supporters aren't exactly the critical, independent thinkers they claim to be. Paul's a typical politician & knows how to manipulate people by pandering to their most wayward desires, especially drugs and the Iraq war. I'm a christian conservative and in many things Paul and I actually agree, such as banning abortion and that the Constitution does not separate Church and State Most Paul supporters though don't realize he's a social conservative as they are too busy cheering his prodrug plan
Ron Paul's followers are cult like? Lol Ron Paul and not Obama's followers? hahaha people follow Ron Paul so that they will have liberty and individual freedoms. People follow Obama so they can get the government to give them "free" healthcare, and anything else they can get. Hmmm...it's Obama that the kool-aid mixer.... not Ron Paul
I think it is a good thing. It creates interest. Anybody that watches it will understand what it is about anyway..hell maybe some anti ron paul people will watch it and change their mind..
Attacking Ron Paul's supporters is about as silly as attacking supporters of Clinton, Obama or McCain. Those of us who are sick of the same-old-same-old in Dem/Rep packages are thrilled to support someone like Ron Paul with a proven record of integrity and a heap of common sense that doesn't sway with the tides of the ever-waffling political sea.
Some Paul supporters have given death threats to caucus workers who miscount their precinct's votes. Others have found the addresses, phone numbers, and future travel plans of Ron Paul naysayers and posted them on the Ron Paul forums. Tons of people talk about an actual revolution with guns and everything.
I love Ron Paul but some of the supporters take it way too far. These people go against the message Dr. Paul is trying to spread of liberty and respect for rights- we're turning into fascists
You can put that label on every supporter of ALL candidates. However I have never before have seen such independence as I have seen with Ron Paul supporter. I was ready to answer all 8 of your points until I glanced on my desk where I keep a quote and thought I would use that instead. "Never Argue with an Idiot: they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ---Anonymous
"Paul's specific remedies for what ails our nation amount to the political equivalent of patent-medicine quackery. He discredits the cause of liberty by associating it with his weird and dangerous brand of utopianism."
"Paul's request for $400 million in earmarks in 2007."
"Paul's plan to abolish the Federal Reserve system is dangerous."
"Ron Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention is utopian silliness dressed up in the outdated language of Washington."
I think the reason why so many RON PAUL supporters can get a bit over zealous is due to the fact the msm is overlooking him and obviously distorting "polling" numbers. They pull out the Frank Luntzs, they attack his positions without actually offering a counter position. He's being treated unfairly and the individuals who blog for him hate being discounted. Why is the media so interested in Mike Huckabee? They are giving him an unbalanced favor by airing non-news-stories.
Since 2001 we've seen a true cult that favors torture, secret prisons, abolishing Habeas Corpus, covering up evidence from 9-11, trying to induct illegals into our armed forces, forming a private mercenary army outside the rule of law, & tasering students when they try to exercise free speech...when RON PAUL wins in November, it won't be HIS SUPPORTERS who will be drinking the Kool Aid!
don't worry about this guy, folks, its another one of the typical ignorant anti-ron paul hick guys who have no intelligent argument. they make it up for it with being loud and obnoxious and lying, so at least they are trying.
Why are you so obsessed with Ron Paul. Why don't you actually do something positive and support your candidate, rather than spamming Ron Paul videos with your hatred?
wheres your proof you close minded fuck? Or is that your opinion? and jerk? Since when has standing up for the people been a bad thing? Oh you must be a supporter of big corrupt facism that is puppeted by neocons. If so then you made your point. I suggest you do your homework and research the man before you spit out your worthless bullshit.
I think they mean a personality cult. I don't really hate Ron Paul, personally, but I'm sick of his online fans who insist on posting "Ron Paul '08" everywhere. If you're going to say that, give a fucking reason why that's desirable instead of immediately attacking anyone who shows the slightest sign of disagreeing with him. Of course this only applies to certain Ron Paul supporters who spam comment sections and can't back up what they say.
If you have any questions, Id be more than happy to elaborate.
But the jist is, I believe he best represents my interests and the interests of the majority of Americans.
Ending these wars, not starting a war with Iran, a strong national defense, restoring the value of the dollar, free trade (withdrawing from NAFTA,CAFTA,WTO), restoring our freedoms and civil liberties, following the Constitution...
how is his views on economics nutty? i mean, i've studied ecomonics and everything he says about the economy makes perfect sense. but maybe there's another side that we're not seeing. please, educate us on the economic leaders you agree with and their theories.
i do agree with his prescription for the annihilation of the social safety net. it's only delusional if you believe in socialism.
Cult,dope smokers,tin hats.These are all media soundbites.Our country was founded by a group of wise,intelligent,far seeing men.We have strayed far from the principals that once made this a great country,WE,The people,have decided to put us,back on course.If this is a cult,I guess I am a member.
Only a decadent cunt would spurn the excitement of those who are still moved by the thought of individual liberty. REMAIN DISPASSIONATE but stay excited people. RP '08
Thank you so much for your video. You nailed it. It grieves me to hear people call Ron Paul supporters a cult. If you really look at Ron Paul's policies and his voting record you will see that the man is highly consistent and a man of principle, and not simply one who gives the illusion of such.
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Cynical and corrupted people do not and can not understand a man committed to truth, principles and ideals. Nor can they understand those who passionately respond to such a man. They are not about truth but about power and their own egos.
You can also ad that Ron Paul is not an authortarian figure. Ron Paul supporters are a diverse group of independant thinkers. Check out the Romulians at the Iowa Straw poll. They all looked alike with their matching t-shirts and signs. I think there is a case for some cult worship on the other campaigns.
If we do not abolish the private Federal Reserve and return to sound money and gain control of our currency, we will be slaves to their debt and lose our freedoms! Only Ron Paul wnats to do this! Support him or watch America fall! Ron Paul 2008! Bring back liberty and the constitution and make Martin Luther King happy!
Since when does a cult have anything do with a cult...? what the fuck? anyways we need a revolution, and I don't think Hillary is going to do anything better about it....
I bid you welcome. Today's sermon is about states voting on difficult issues like abortion or gay issues. Now chant with me..."Nevada has prostitution but other states don't. We must decide for ourselves. We must decide for ourselves..."
These corrupt and cynical people do not and can not understand a man committed to truth, principles and ideals. Nor can they understand those who passionately respond to such a man. They are not about truth but about power and their own egos.
I see people bash Paul supporters but neglect to mention their candidate.Many times these same people lump Paul supporters into a single group. From what I can see they are diverse;veterans,parents,students,wealthy,poor,ect. ect. Mostly they care about where this country is headed.I think some that dislike Paul or his supporters haven't taken the time to investigate the other candidates.
agreed. I think that the huge spike in anti-paul trolls is actually signs that the MSM, Illuminati, Establishment, Powers that be (whatever you want to call them) are trying to put sleepers in our online community...
hopefully, this ISNT a repeat of the wikipedia editing scandal... but i wouldn't be surprised if some IPs get traced back to Fox or the CIA.
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independent thought? I've seen a large percentage of Ron Paul supporters who believe every word out of Dr. Paul's mouth is gospel and that he couldn't possibly be wrong on anything. Some people have described the behavior of many Ron Paul supporters as "messianic fervor" and I agree with that completely. How many comments are posted daily about how Ron Paul is "our Saviour" and claiming he's "the only one who can save us?"
And they call us conspiracy theorists? Only a delusional extremist at the end of his rope would claim that freedom-loving Americans are cultists or terrorists or kooks. Either that or it's an intentional smear, which is more likely.
I'm with ya brother! You're very articulate on video, by the way. Great job.
RON PAUL 2008!
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I am a Ron Paul supporter. Am I in a "Cult". No. Do I see the current administration destroying our American freedoms? Definately. Could I be declared a "combantant"? Maybe, just for writing this under current laws of the land. Do I want my freedoms back and to restore our constitution for me and my children? Yes.
There is much to be done in terms of reclaiming our government, but I think the thing that Libertarians need to learn is that Government is not automatically "bad". It is republicans and the small coalition of powerful special interests who make it bad. Government has been and can be again a force for good when it begins to involve more people. It would be far easier for me to support Paul if he weren't such an ideologue on the privatization of pretty much everything.
no libertarian has ever said govt is "bad" i dont know where you get this bullshit from. Libertarians are strict constitutionalists and believe in personal liberty and limited govt. The only people who say govt is "bad" are anarchists. I cant stand it when people try to equate libertarianism with anarchy. YOU need to "learn" about libertarianism before you type on here.
I know plenty about libertarianism. Paul thinks government should be big enough to protect private property and that's it. You are one rung off the political ladder from anarchy, congrats.
You complain about special interests and republicans you sound like a parrot for the democratic party. Stop being a metal slave and wake up to the fact that BOTH parties have been inflating this govt. BOTH parties are special interest whores and are running this country down the toilet. The dems have failed so horribly I feel they are nothing but a false opposition to the neocons running the republican party.
Stop telling me what to stop. Who the fuck are you to use the imperative with me? The Democrats are stealing from Rove's playbook. Ask yourself why people are stupid enough to fall for it.
"It is republicans and the small coalition of powerful special interests who make it bad." The point of my post as you failed to realize is that you SOUND like a democratic party stooge. PAY ATTENTION
STOP the party bickering because marginalizing and using divisive rhetoric is EXACTLY what special interests and their whores want. Ron Paul has support from both sides and theres a reason for that. He's uniting this country through the ideals it was FOUND ON
I am telling you specifically what I do not agree with. It is not a minor point. You are not going to sway me by calling for unity just for the sake of unity. It reminds me of the slogans used in V for Vendetta:
NO, its not for the sake of unity. "Stength through Unity Unity through Faith" This is what BOTH parties are endorsing among themselves with the illusion of a 2 party system. NOT ron paul, NOW youre trying to equate the dictatorship in the movie with ron paul??? wtf is wrong with you? I'm not trying to sway you for the sake of unity, im trying to sway you WITH THE PRINCIPLES THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON WHICH BOTH PARTIES ABHOR
Then I suggest you read Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine if you want to know what principles thius country was founded on. Jefferson specifically EXCLUDED property from the declaration of independence.
How do you think this country worked before the bank of england came over and began its slow parasitic hold on this country through interest? I'm not talking about property and i dont even know what you mean by that. Jefferson never intended for there to be a public school system, or a welfare state, or huge beauracracies in govt. We wouldnt need social programs to begin with if it werent for, as you said, special interests involved in govt. They go hand in hand.
You are dead wrong about Jefferson and public education. Study some history. The federalists were in favor of a strong central and elite government to make the right decisions, Jefferson and fellow democrats believed in public education. Paul believes in neither. He seems to think that things will just turn out dandy of we let the market take care of it.
Jefferson specifically left out the word property from life, liberty, and "the pursuit of happiness". This is a departure from Locke, who is your real ideological ancestor.
First, I'm not so sure unity is ideal, but how again is Paul uniting our nation? He will leave major decisions of the campaign up to the states who will, most likely, not vote the same way. In a time when we already have stratification among regions, states, cities, we should be aiming for equality not policies that can sharpen the divide. Interest groups and corporations have swayed the fed votes, what makes you think they won't do the same in the states?
The true difference between Ron Paul supporters and those who back other candidates is that Paul supporters are unabashadly open about their support for him and this is for the simple reason that his policy positions are transparent. Others don't know their candidate so thoroughly so they are more reserved. Perhaps if we had more straight talkers we would have this phenomenon happening for other candidates.
They can't attack Paul himself, so we are the only decent target they have. Nice going media, way to attack thousands of people who support your advertisers. Well... used to anyway.
Right fucking on. Count on KIDiotequeA for some badass music and a little intellectual cud to chew on every once in a while. It's like good talk radio meets good music. :D
I'm tired of the ppl putting down new Ron Paul supporters. Does this really matter? All that matters is that we're here now and have commited to supporting his candidacy. Get off your high horses, like it really matters how long you've followed him and unite with the rest of us. Otherwise you're creating a wedge and turning ppl off.
who are you addressing? I looked through all the comments and I don't see anyone putting new RP supporters down...that seems counterproductive. Please address your comment to the person you were talking about because I have not seen this at all.
Everything is a cult if people get anal about it. You are right. Ron Paul has the most diverse group of supporters...by far (not talking about skin color becauase that is just the surface. Diverse thinkers support Ron Paul.)
A cult is just a small and fairly unpopular religion.
This claim that Paul supporters is a cult is just another attempt to marginalize what this country was founded on. I think everybody's opinion should be voiced, otherwise how can we judge other people's opinions and form our own?
This point becomes clear when so many people mention a Paul/Kucinich ticket. They certianly agree on some issues and can work together to pass bills, but they are in dramatic opposition when you look at WHY each has that stance. Kucinich wants to create new fed departments and revise the ones in place to better provide for our society. Paul wants to eliminate several aspects of the fed gov.
I think the two campaigns could be reconciled...with the terms being, States Rights, and the Constitution.
If the people of California vote for a form of non for profit alternative healthcare, Paul would honor the States right to do so. I really enjoy the idea of a Bipartisan ticket. If Paul were to be elected, he would be killed by the powers that be...but not if Kucinich is Vice.
I see that it would be interesting and all, but I don't think Kucinich would settle for deciding such major issues like health care on a state-to-state basis. This would really just perpetuate a problem of inequality in our country. Kucinich wants everyone in our nation covered, not just certain states. While DK respects states' rights, he want to eliminate the inequalities of wealth, health, and education between them through Federal programs.
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Well I think you're right that the "cult" depiction is really just a distraction. BUT, I have come across many Paul supporters who have one characteristic typical of a cult member: A blind faith in their leader and that he is correct. Unfortunately I meet a lot of people that have done a surface research of Paul and hear individual freedom, constitutional rights, and think that sounds great. But, they fail to realize Pauls other plans and the implications of his stance.
Feel free to write me and I'll be happy to explain to you any of my reasoning. I have known about Paul since before he was running for president, I was one of the ones that ASKED him to run for president. I'm a very fervent supporter, I don't have any BLIND faith at all.
Well I hope you read my comments in full. I am NOT saying ALL Ron Paul supporters are like this. I know of quite a few that are not. But, I have met and talked to several others that do not know about all of his positions. I fully understand why some one would want to support him and I respectfully disagree. I just think some Paul supporters have not totally looked into him. I think that can be said for a lot of Obama, Hilary, supporters as well. I am not trying to offend you, I respect Paul.
Consider this - Social Security. I like the IDEA of the program, honestly I do. It was setup as a trust, where the surplus was kept and held. What happened to this surplus?
It was all stolen, spent, and it was STOLEN, not borrowed. Your government can be trusted about as well as Enron could be.
Ok, I disagree with his approach to social systems like social security, health care, education, etc. Yes, several aspects of our government have been corrupted by big business and terrible politicians, but I don't think private accounts will solve the major issues for the huge poor population in our country. Canceling income tax to allow people to set up personal savings accounts to fund their own healthcare and education, for example will not suffice for the poor.
These people are not paying a huge amount of money in income tax and holding onto a few thousand each year for these families barely feeding their kids and paying rent will not be enough for them to pay for healthcare. The group of poor who are paid in cash and do not pay income tax (still struggling) will have NO money returned to them. I think that we need a government that can change our social systems, not one that will leave health and education to be decided by personal savings accounts.
"I was one of the ones that ASKED him to run for president. I'm a very fervent supporter, I don't have any BLIND faith at all." I did too, i was among many thousands of signers of a petition to get him to run. I first heard about him when I found his speech entitled "Neo-conned" back in 02 or 03. Once I researched his career I was hooked. blind faith my ass, I KNOW what this man is about!
again, I'm not personally attacking you. I am just talking about my experience with some Paul supporters. I'm not trying to generalize to everyone. I didn't say that ANYWHERE. I've just been reading and hearing people say things about Paul that are not really accurate. If you are strong supporter and have thouroughly researched him and still agree, fine. You, if anyone, should be concerned with anyone's misconceptions.
They are trying to make Ron Paul supporters look bad by any means possible. This is one way they are trying to get him out of the "winning zone" and into the person with "no credibility zone". People see us most of them with great apathy, see our passion and are like wtf is that?! They don't have it hence we are strange and thus become "cult status". Although your points are key, a "freedom cult" is an oxymoron.
right again. Most people are too timid about their candidates because our choices have become so distasteful that you dare not speak above a whisper announcing who you stand for. Most people don't have the experience in being able to accurately spell out what makes their candidate good or bad, because they're all known for flip flopping or being vague. ron paul changes it all. therefore, you can expect extreme resistance. he's unstoppable.
i'll admit there doesn't seem to be a better candidate right now...but i'm still waiting for nader to enter the race =) Can you imagine a ron paul ralph nader debate? that would be legendary! they would actually talk about things and have ideas!
are you serious? ralph nader is in no way comparable to Ron Pauls staunch constitutionalist views. Nader is too progressive. Not to mention a democrat, which, for anyone to be, I consider anti american. I mean, musing about what the founding fathers meant to the history of the planet, for any educated fellow to believe in democracy is blasphemous
Kucinich is not perfect. Ron paul is...Nothing matters except him abolishing this entire beaurocracy, corpratocracy... I mean. have any of you even heard of the comprehensive annual financial report? jesus christ i'm excited
Nader is the most convincing person I've ever heard in my life and his intelligence is...dare I say it...godlike. He could probably convince the Iraqi's to stop killing each other and convert to atheism within months of taking office.
Because of Nader, I'm not allowed to drive a TWIKE on US highways (look it up in google) It gets an equivalent of 250 MPG. A TWIKE, is according to the government, too unsafe for me to drive.
But I can drive a motorcycle.
I'd rather the government quit trying to save me from myself all the goddamned time.
The plain and simple fact is that 99% of government regulations are not passed to protect the public, it's to eliminate competition by large corporations that are promoting the legislation.
Nader I'm sure MEANS well, but that's what's really going on in the end. GM should have gone out of business 2 decades ago.
so youre saying being able to drive a twike on the highway would put gm out of business? yea right...honestly that thing does look pretty dangerous and i get annoyed when i have to wait for a damn golf cart to drive by before i can make my left turn. but as long as those things go fast enough i dont have a problem with letting them on the highway.
its not the single point, its the general principle. Ron paul advocates reducing the size of government which is akin to shrinking the ocean to the size of a lake. It seems mighty lofty if not impossible, but its not. private responsiblity and the restoration of the title: sovereign, instead of citizen, is a distinct move upwards.
No, I'm saying giving people a choice and letting corporations compete would have either put GM out of business OR made GM produce a better car than the 2 ton pieces of shit they make today.
Besides - GM is ALREADY bankrupt but they are so deeply in bed with the government it will take years before it's known.
Excellent points. I'd love to hear from some Ron Paul haters about their favorite candidate's ideas.
MrSafetymeeting 1 year ago
more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
julioshawtylean76 1 year ago
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more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
julioshawtylean76 1 year ago
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more bullshit propaganda also all this ass hoes thinking all islamics are terrorist. as much as i dont dislike ron paul even if he wins eitheir he sells out or gets killed so get real only true effective change has prove 2 be full arm reolution guerilla war fare. thats how che guevara did it even thou bitch ass fidel turn 2 a dictator. thats how we no longer have slaves thats how black panthers huey malcom got people of color 2 be treated like humans.malcom x quotes is not that i advocate
julioshawtylean76 1 year ago
violence but at the sametime i am not against using violence in self defense i don't call it violence when it's self defense i call it intelligence or nobody can give u freedom a real man will take it. even thou allot of people whant freedom think it can be gained by peace this country and others dont have a king bacause of a rovolution the only thing this mothefuckers understand is violence power never takes a step back unless in the face of more power think free ur mind.im open 2 comments
julioshawtylean76 1 year ago
Why don't you ask Sean Hannity about how the Ron Paul supporters viewed Sean's "independent thought". After all the Ron Paul supporters chased after him for about a block trying to intimate him.
evansville70 2 years ago
Come.... Come drink the Kool-Aid.
thablackmarkit 2 years ago
Ron Paul is the best. Most consistent politician I've ever seen. He has made some amazing predictions, and they came true. Most anyway, and I'm sure his new predictions are going to come true as well
Look at what Ron Paul has said through out the past 30 years. He is conservative, and liberal by today's standards. But, 30 years ago, he would be considered purely conservative.
He is for the people's right to choose, and he's for a small government, and free trade in addition to non-intervention
caseypena420 2 years ago
Paul supporters aren't exactly the critical, independent thinkers they claim to be. Paul's a typical politician & knows how to manipulate people by pandering to their most wayward desires, especially drugs and the Iraq war. I'm a christian conservative and in many things Paul and I actually agree, such as banning abortion and that the Constitution does not separate Church and State Most Paul supporters though don't realize he's a social conservative as they are too busy cheering his prodrug plan
MoralityRules 3 years ago
Ron Paul is Love.
Ron Paul is Truth.
Ron Paul is The Way.
Ron Paul also makes the best Kool-Aid drinks.
TruthandJustice101 3 years ago
Ron Paul's followers are cult like? Lol Ron Paul and not Obama's followers? hahaha people follow Ron Paul so that they will have liberty and individual freedoms. People follow Obama so they can get the government to give them "free" healthcare, and anything else they can get. Hmmm...it's Obama that the kool-aid mixer.... not Ron Paul
DevieBoy66 2 years ago
I think it is a good thing. It creates interest. Anybody that watches it will understand what it is about anyway..hell maybe some anti ron paul people will watch it and change their mind..
tobbern 3 years ago
Attacking Ron Paul's supporters is about as silly as attacking supporters of Clinton, Obama or McCain. Those of us who are sick of the same-old-same-old in Dem/Rep packages are thrilled to support someone like Ron Paul with a proven record of integrity and a heap of common sense that doesn't sway with the tides of the ever-waffling political sea.
BOTTOLOTTO 3 years ago
I take it you didnt bother to listen to the video eh?
KIDiotequeA 4 years ago
Some Paul supporters have given death threats to caucus workers who miscount their precinct's votes. Others have found the addresses, phone numbers, and future travel plans of Ron Paul naysayers and posted them on the Ron Paul forums. Tons of people talk about an actual revolution with guns and everything.
I love Ron Paul but some of the supporters take it way too far. These people go against the message Dr. Paul is trying to spread of liberty and respect for rights- we're turning into fascists
treblemaker91 4 years ago
A cult? if you mean a cult of people who love the US, liberty, the constitution, sound money.
odinsragess 4 years ago
cult of personality. noun, definition- "intense devotion to a particular person". this appears to be quite apropos.
geargemartin 4 years ago
Thank you, brother from another mother...
Petryfid 4 years ago
Well, let us count the ways:
1. A cult tends to control its members' behavior.
I'd call that a yes. Look at all the mandates on HOW to act as a Ron Paul supporter.
2. A cult tends to have an ethical double standard.
Lots of them. Ron Paul supporters make excuses for Paul's record all the time.
3. A cult has two basic purposes: recruiting new members and fund-raising.
I'd call that a big "yes."
ZeroCorpse 4 years ago
4. A cult appears to be exclusive and makes members feel "special".
Yep. Just look at them.
5. A cult claims to know "the truth" and has contempt for outsiders.
Again, yes. Read their posts!
ZeroCorpse 4 years ago
6. A cult's leader claims to have a special mission in life.
I think his followers think so. So yes.
7. A cult's leader tends to be determined, domineering, and charismatic.
Determined? Yes. The others? Not so much.
8. A cult tends to react to challengers with threats or violence.
Oh Yes. Theats, curses, hate mail... It's all there.
So yes, Paulites are a cult.
ZeroCorpse 4 years ago
You can put that label on every supporter of ALL candidates. However I have never before have seen such independence as I have seen with Ron Paul supporter. I was ready to answer all 8 of your points until I glanced on my desk where I keep a quote and thought I would use that instead. "Never Argue with an Idiot: they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ---Anonymous
WAKE UP and do your homework!!!
melanieanastos 4 years ago
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"Paul's specific remedies for what ails our nation amount to the political equivalent of patent-medicine quackery. He discredits the cause of liberty by associating it with his weird and dangerous brand of utopianism."
"Paul's request for $400 million in earmarks in 2007."
"Paul's plan to abolish the Federal Reserve system is dangerous."
"Ron Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention is utopian silliness dressed up in the outdated language of Washington."
- Newsweek
I agree with Newsweek.
JRBeaman 4 years ago
I think the reason why so many RON PAUL supporters can get a bit over zealous is due to the fact the msm is overlooking him and obviously distorting "polling" numbers. They pull out the Frank Luntzs, they attack his positions without actually offering a counter position. He's being treated unfairly and the individuals who blog for him hate being discounted. Why is the media so interested in Mike Huckabee? They are giving him an unbalanced favor by airing non-news-stories.
bottleslingguy 4 years ago
Since 2001 we've seen a true cult that favors torture, secret prisons, abolishing Habeas Corpus, covering up evidence from 9-11, trying to induct illegals into our armed forces, forming a private mercenary army outside the rule of law, & tasering students when they try to exercise free speech...when RON PAUL wins in November, it won't be HIS SUPPORTERS who will be drinking the Kool Aid!
2speakfreely 4 years ago
cult? seems to be more like a political movement to me. cult - political revolution...theres quite a big difference
vickie2482 4 years ago
its the message... not Ron Paul--- The Larouche people are a cult. Ron Paul is replaceable. He is the vessel.
Ryan4RonPaul 4 years ago
Well put, its not a cult its a political movement
electronuk 4 years ago
Let's make the White House our temple! Save the taxpayers a shitload of money!
peltecs 4 years ago
great vid, RON PAUL IS OUR LAST HOPE FOR A FREE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!
fuelinjector 4 years ago
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bobbyusbombs 4 years ago
don't worry about this guy, folks, its another one of the typical ignorant anti-ron paul hick guys who have no intelligent argument. they make it up for it with being loud and obnoxious and lying, so at least they are trying.
tr3vzie 4 years ago 4
Why are you so obsessed with Ron Paul. Why don't you actually do something positive and support your candidate, rather than spamming Ron Paul videos with your hatred?
bgturk 4 years ago
wheres your proof you close minded fuck? Or is that your opinion? and jerk? Since when has standing up for the people been a bad thing? Oh you must be a supporter of big corrupt facism that is puppeted by neocons. If so then you made your point. I suggest you do your homework and research the man before you spit out your worthless bullshit.
nefariousD11 4 years ago
I think they mean a personality cult. I don't really hate Ron Paul, personally, but I'm sick of his online fans who insist on posting "Ron Paul '08" everywhere. If you're going to say that, give a fucking reason why that's desirable instead of immediately attacking anyone who shows the slightest sign of disagreeing with him. Of course this only applies to certain Ron Paul supporters who spam comment sections and can't back up what they say.
NaturalSelection2 4 years ago
I hear ya.
If you have any questions, Id be more than happy to elaborate.
But the jist is, I believe he best represents my interests and the interests of the majority of Americans.
Ending these wars, not starting a war with Iran, a strong national defense, restoring the value of the dollar, free trade (withdrawing from NAFTA,CAFTA,WTO), restoring our freedoms and civil liberties, following the Constitution...
KIDiotequeA 4 years ago
They bleat the same way "Ron Paul '08" woo-hoo!
They spam it everywhere.
They type it in ALL CAPS!!!!!
The more they spam, the more delusional they get about The Leader's prospects.
Ain't gonna win the Republican primary, let alone the general.
That's the truth.
carrite 4 years ago
He raised more money than any other Republican candidate in this last quarter...6million in one day, average donation 50 dollars.
That translates into votes.
It is very hard to motivate people to vote in the primaries, especially in the republican party right now.
Paul has the support and the votes.
You are also making blanket statements that to not fit the majority of the supporters commenting on this, or many other posts.
KIDiotequeA 4 years ago
Money is only a tiny part of the equation.
Ultimately, the question is whether the ideas have traction or not. Here is the Ron Paul idea that has traction: END THE WAR NOW.
And another: TIME TO DEFEND CIVIL LIBERTIES.
On top of this, he pastes nutty economics, pro-life BS, and a delusional perscription for annihilation of the social safety net.
carrite 4 years ago
how is his views on economics nutty? i mean, i've studied ecomonics and everything he says about the economy makes perfect sense. but maybe there's another side that we're not seeing. please, educate us on the economic leaders you agree with and their theories.
i do agree with his prescription for the annihilation of the social safety net. it's only delusional if you believe in socialism.
omarionleroy 4 years ago
Jim Bakker raised a lot of money too....
So did Jim Jones, and then they all drank the cool aid.....
breakfastisready 4 years ago
Cult,dope smokers,tin hats.These are all media soundbites.Our country was founded by a group of wise,intelligent,far seeing men.We have strayed far from the principals that once made this a great country,WE,The people,have decided to put us,back on course.If this is a cult,I guess I am a member.
move2montana 4 years ago
The founding fathers may be a right guideline, but former slave owners that preach equalty of people is a bit too paradoxic for me.
Oh and don't call it a cult, we don't wanna become Christians all over again :D
DaRRazoRR 4 years ago
Only a decadent cunt would spurn the excitement of those who are still moved by the thought of individual liberty. REMAIN DISPASSIONATE but stay excited people. RP '08
papalgoose 4 years ago
Thank you so much for your video. You nailed it. It grieves me to hear people call Ron Paul supporters a cult. If you really look at Ron Paul's policies and his voting record you will see that the man is highly consistent and a man of principle, and not simply one who gives the illusion of such.
cmayberry86 4 years ago
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Libertarians have been around a lot longer than these nutty Paul supporters. Why do they like him?
#1: He appeals to their truther buddies Alex Jones and others.
#2: He appeals to jew-hating neo-nazis.
#3: He appeals to anarchists.
They gather, they chant, they condemn anyone who makes disparaging comments about their leader Ron Paul.
Sounds like a cult to me.
badsysop 4 years ago
Rudy?! Is that you?! Nice dress, dude!
Shultzgti 4 years ago
nice! And I agree with Kappie79. One man's cult is our Revolution.
TIAAVENDEALANTIN 4 years ago
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Don't vote for Freedom and Prosperity Ron Paul!
XR500Final 4 years ago 2
Cynical and corrupted people do not and can not understand a man committed to truth, principles and ideals. Nor can they understand those who passionately respond to such a man. They are not about truth but about power and their own egos.
ihearttubing 4 years ago 2
You can also ad that Ron Paul is not an authortarian figure. Ron Paul supporters are a diverse group of independant thinkers. Check out the Romulians at the Iowa Straw poll. They all looked alike with their matching t-shirts and signs. I think there is a case for some cult worship on the other campaigns.
theropingeffect 4 years ago 4
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If we do not abolish the private Federal Reserve and return to sound money and gain control of our currency, we will be slaves to their debt and lose our freedoms! Only Ron Paul wnats to do this! Support him or watch America fall! Ron Paul 2008! Bring back liberty and the constitution and make Martin Luther King happy!
JackNeedles 4 years ago 2
i agree.
lifeoutsidethecircle 4 years ago 3
we are turning it into more than a cult we are turning it into our nation again. bless you for taking part.
youngdavesplace 4 years ago 4
It is the Freedom Cult!
steeldrumer 4 years ago 3
Since when does a cult have anything do with a cult...? what the fuck? anyways we need a revolution, and I don't think Hillary is going to do anything better about it....
RussMaGuss 4 years ago 3
It is the Freedom Cult!
richardhutnik 4 years ago 3
They call it a cult ... we call it a Revolution :)
kappie79 4 years ago 4
the occultists are the ones currently running this country.
franky7000a 4 years ago 4
Ron Paul will change it all....and thats a good thing :P
fuzzyballz 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul is the bomb!!!!
REVOLUTION!!!
wildboy789789 4 years ago 6
Yes. The cult of the Constitution.
roberteckerson 4 years ago 7
Let's chant together: "one size does not fit all...one size does not fit all..."
Now deep breaths, and again: "habeous corpus is good...habeous corpus is good..."
And one last chant: "perpetual wars are bad...perpetual wars are bad..."
Next weeks' sermon: "Freedom is popular."
strawberry9572 4 years ago 4
I bid you welcome. Today's sermon is about states voting on difficult issues like abortion or gay issues. Now chant with me..."Nevada has prostitution but other states don't. We must decide for ourselves. We must decide for ourselves..."
strawberry9572 4 years ago
These corrupt and cynical people do not and can not understand a man committed to truth, principles and ideals. Nor can they understand those who passionately respond to such a man. They are not about truth but about power and their own egos.
carcabe 4 years ago 2
if you support ron paul check out my video ron paul supporters unite
nowar08 4 years ago
Message is larger than the man!
chewbaca1989 4 years ago
R3VOLUTION!
juxier 4 years ago 2
THEN MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS
FLIPPY224 4 years ago
rON pAUL IS FOR THE freaking PEOPLE... PERIOD... HE IS A REAL POLITICIAN
HarryEtTubMan 4 years ago
lol ive heard abut them calling us a cult....its very funny , right brotha
jflo069 4 years ago
I see people bash Paul supporters but neglect to mention their candidate.Many times these same people lump Paul supporters into a single group. From what I can see they are diverse;veterans,parents,students,wealthy,poor,ect. ect. Mostly they care about where this country is headed.I think some that dislike Paul or his supporters haven't taken the time to investigate the other candidates.
spitchill 4 years ago 4
agreed. I think that the huge spike in anti-paul trolls is actually signs that the MSM, Illuminati, Establishment, Powers that be (whatever you want to call them) are trying to put sleepers in our online community...
hopefully, this ISNT a repeat of the wikipedia editing scandal... but i wouldn't be surprised if some IPs get traced back to Fox or the CIA.
SJSR45 4 years ago 3
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independent thought? I've seen a large percentage of Ron Paul supporters who believe every word out of Dr. Paul's mouth is gospel and that he couldn't possibly be wrong on anything. Some people have described the behavior of many Ron Paul supporters as "messianic fervor" and I agree with that completely. How many comments are posted daily about how Ron Paul is "our Saviour" and claiming he's "the only one who can save us?"
darkgatherer 4 years ago
"the only one who can save us" & "our savior" - meaning: We American's, America itself & our GLOBALLY UNIQUE liberties, freedoms and rights.
kevgrim, wrote: Informed Citizens - not a "cult".
And to the other intelligent posts below: Amen brothers!
quaffer22 4 years ago
Informed Citizens - not a "cult"
kevgrim 4 years ago 4
Smart young man!
mayavision2012 4 years ago 4
blue oyster cult?
jimmyjammy008 4 years ago
The only cult (or cult-like behaviour) i've heard of recently is the Bohemian Groove which old George.W and his dad are members of.
nespokesman 4 years ago 3
And they call us conspiracy theorists? Only a delusional extremist at the end of his rope would claim that freedom-loving Americans are cultists or terrorists or kooks. Either that or it's an intentional smear, which is more likely.
ditkuss 4 years ago 2
I'm with ya brother! You're very articulate on video, by the way. Great job.
RON PAUL 2008!
FYI, this is the last week for most states to become elegable to be a delegate in the primaries for Ron Paul! If you want to have a HUGE impact, with very little committment, e-mail me on how you can become a PCO in your district. Deadline is the end of the month, for most states!
cmanw 4 years ago 4
I am a Ron Paul supporter. Am I in a "Cult". No. Do I see the current administration destroying our American freedoms? Definately. Could I be declared a "combantant"? Maybe, just for writing this under current laws of the land. Do I want my freedoms back and to restore our constitution for me and my children? Yes.
Free Hugs From TX
RundoeTX
rundoetx 4 years ago 3
I am a woman and I agree 100%
For our children's sake.
The decline in our "freedom" keeps slowly falling, it's time to push it back up to the standards that our founding fathers died for.
Dr. Ron Paul 2008
FrancescaLiberti 4 years ago 5
Dr Paul needs us now! We cannot wait untill dec 16th, Donate on thanksgiving!
Give thanks to Ron Paul and the Constitution!
Woodchuckk 4 years ago 4
There is much to be done in terms of reclaiming our government, but I think the thing that Libertarians need to learn is that Government is not automatically "bad". It is republicans and the small coalition of powerful special interests who make it bad. Government has been and can be again a force for good when it begins to involve more people. It would be far easier for me to support Paul if he weren't such an ideologue on the privatization of pretty much everything.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago 2
no libertarian has ever said govt is "bad" i dont know where you get this bullshit from. Libertarians are strict constitutionalists and believe in personal liberty and limited govt. The only people who say govt is "bad" are anarchists. I cant stand it when people try to equate libertarianism with anarchy. YOU need to "learn" about libertarianism before you type on here.
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
I know plenty about libertarianism. Paul thinks government should be big enough to protect private property and that's it. You are one rung off the political ladder from anarchy, congrats.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
Youre the one making it seem like its anarchy my friend.
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
You complain about special interests and republicans you sound like a parrot for the democratic party. Stop being a metal slave and wake up to the fact that BOTH parties have been inflating this govt. BOTH parties are special interest whores and are running this country down the toilet. The dems have failed so horribly I feel they are nothing but a false opposition to the neocons running the republican party.
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
Stop telling me what to stop. Who the fuck are you to use the imperative with me? The Democrats are stealing from Rove's playbook. Ask yourself why people are stupid enough to fall for it.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
"It is republicans and the small coalition of powerful special interests who make it bad." The point of my post as you failed to realize is that you SOUND like a democratic party stooge. PAY ATTENTION
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
STOP the party bickering because marginalizing and using divisive rhetoric is EXACTLY what special interests and their whores want. Ron Paul has support from both sides and theres a reason for that. He's uniting this country through the ideals it was FOUND ON
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
I am telling you specifically what I do not agree with. It is not a minor point. You are not going to sway me by calling for unity just for the sake of unity. It reminds me of the slogans used in V for Vendetta:
Stength through Unity
Unity through Faith
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
NO, its not for the sake of unity. "Stength through Unity Unity through Faith" This is what BOTH parties are endorsing among themselves with the illusion of a 2 party system. NOT ron paul, NOW youre trying to equate the dictatorship in the movie with ron paul??? wtf is wrong with you? I'm not trying to sway you for the sake of unity, im trying to sway you WITH THE PRINCIPLES THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON WHICH BOTH PARTIES ABHOR
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
Then I suggest you read Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine if you want to know what principles thius country was founded on. Jefferson specifically EXCLUDED property from the declaration of independence.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
How do you think this country worked before the bank of england came over and began its slow parasitic hold on this country through interest? I'm not talking about property and i dont even know what you mean by that. Jefferson never intended for there to be a public school system, or a welfare state, or huge beauracracies in govt. We wouldnt need social programs to begin with if it werent for, as you said, special interests involved in govt. They go hand in hand.
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
You are dead wrong about Jefferson and public education. Study some history. The federalists were in favor of a strong central and elite government to make the right decisions, Jefferson and fellow democrats believed in public education. Paul believes in neither. He seems to think that things will just turn out dandy of we let the market take care of it.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
In fact, libertarianism was founded mostly on jeffersons principles!
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
Jefferson specifically left out the word property from life, liberty, and "the pursuit of happiness". This is a departure from Locke, who is your real ideological ancestor.
j0hnwi11iams 4 years ago
First, I'm not so sure unity is ideal, but how again is Paul uniting our nation? He will leave major decisions of the campaign up to the states who will, most likely, not vote the same way. In a time when we already have stratification among regions, states, cities, we should be aiming for equality not policies that can sharpen the divide. Interest groups and corporations have swayed the fed votes, what makes you think they won't do the same in the states?
njab2016 4 years ago
Great video and very well spoken.
Isaac707 4 years ago
HotForWords for President 2008!
ListenForTruth 4 years ago
ron paul revolution man. paul supporter come from all walks of life. where very diverse.
mdopazo 4 years ago
Please help get the word out. Dr. Paul's camp needs money now for the last quarter. Can you help? We can still have the tea party.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."
slammah2012 4 years ago
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Please help get the word out. Dr. Paul's camp needs money now for the last quarter. Can you help? We can still have the tea party.
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."
gardentoolnumber5 4 years ago
The true difference between Ron Paul supporters and those who back other candidates is that Paul supporters are unabashadly open about their support for him and this is for the simple reason that his policy positions are transparent. Others don't know their candidate so thoroughly so they are more reserved. Perhaps if we had more straight talkers we would have this phenomenon happening for other candidates.
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago 3
hey that's a good idea, lets start a cult! cults rock.
DCUPtoejuice 4 years ago
They can't attack Paul himself, so we are the only decent target they have. Nice going media, way to attack thousands of people who support your advertisers. Well... used to anyway.
Foslopac 4 years ago
Right fucking on. Count on KIDiotequeA for some badass music and a little intellectual cud to chew on every once in a while. It's like good talk radio meets good music. :D
mahzkrieg 4 years ago
I'm tired of the ppl putting down new Ron Paul supporters. Does this really matter? All that matters is that we're here now and have commited to supporting his candidacy. Get off your high horses, like it really matters how long you've followed him and unite with the rest of us. Otherwise you're creating a wedge and turning ppl off.
banemaler 4 years ago 2
who are you addressing? I looked through all the comments and I don't see anyone putting new RP supporters down...that seems counterproductive. Please address your comment to the person you were talking about because I have not seen this at all.
googlevideodaddy 4 years ago
Everything is a cult if people get anal about it. You are right. Ron Paul has the most diverse group of supporters...by far (not talking about skin color becauase that is just the surface. Diverse thinkers support Ron Paul.)
SatwaMan 4 years ago
A cult is just a small and fairly unpopular religion.
This claim that Paul supporters is a cult is just another attempt to marginalize what this country was founded on. I think everybody's opinion should be voiced, otherwise how can we judge other people's opinions and form our own?
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
Ron Paul cult-ivates a message that can't be refuted sanely.
junkwatcher2 4 years ago
Go Ron Go
junkwatcher2 4 years ago
A fundamental ideological difference exists If people really researched both candidates they would understand this.
njab2016 4 years ago
This point becomes clear when so many people mention a Paul/Kucinich ticket. They certianly agree on some issues and can work together to pass bills, but they are in dramatic opposition when you look at WHY each has that stance. Kucinich wants to create new fed departments and revise the ones in place to better provide for our society. Paul wants to eliminate several aspects of the fed gov.
njab2016 4 years ago
I think the two campaigns could be reconciled...with the terms being, States Rights, and the Constitution.
If the people of California vote for a form of non for profit alternative healthcare, Paul would honor the States right to do so. I really enjoy the idea of a Bipartisan ticket. If Paul were to be elected, he would be killed by the powers that be...but not if Kucinich is Vice.
KIDiotequeA 4 years ago
I see that it would be interesting and all, but I don't think Kucinich would settle for deciding such major issues like health care on a state-to-state basis. This would really just perpetuate a problem of inequality in our country. Kucinich wants everyone in our nation covered, not just certain states. While DK respects states' rights, he want to eliminate the inequalities of wealth, health, and education between them through Federal programs.
njab2016 4 years ago
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Well I think you're right that the "cult" depiction is really just a distraction. BUT, I have come across many Paul supporters who have one characteristic typical of a cult member: A blind faith in their leader and that he is correct. Unfortunately I meet a lot of people that have done a surface research of Paul and hear individual freedom, constitutional rights, and think that sounds great. But, they fail to realize Pauls other plans and the implications of his stance.
njab2016 4 years ago
> BUT, I have come across many Paul
> supporters who have one characteristic
> typical of a cult member: A blind faith
> in their leader and that he is correct.
A BLIND faith?
Feel free to write me and I'll be happy to explain to you any of my reasoning. I have known about Paul since before he was running for president, I was one of the ones that ASKED him to run for president. I'm a very fervent supporter, I don't have any BLIND faith at all.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
Well I hope you read my comments in full. I am NOT saying ALL Ron Paul supporters are like this. I know of quite a few that are not. But, I have met and talked to several others that do not know about all of his positions. I fully understand why some one would want to support him and I respectfully disagree. I just think some Paul supporters have not totally looked into him. I think that can be said for a lot of Obama, Hilary, supporters as well. I am not trying to offend you, I respect Paul.
njab2016 4 years ago
> I fully understand why some one would want
> to support him and I respectfully disagree.
I'd like to know what you disagree about.
Consider this - Social Security. I like the IDEA of the program, honestly I do. It was setup as a trust, where the surplus was kept and held. What happened to this surplus?
It was all stolen, spent, and it was STOLEN, not borrowed. Your government can be trusted about as well as Enron could be.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago 2
Ok, I disagree with his approach to social systems like social security, health care, education, etc. Yes, several aspects of our government have been corrupted by big business and terrible politicians, but I don't think private accounts will solve the major issues for the huge poor population in our country. Canceling income tax to allow people to set up personal savings accounts to fund their own healthcare and education, for example will not suffice for the poor.
njab2016 4 years ago
These people are not paying a huge amount of money in income tax and holding onto a few thousand each year for these families barely feeding their kids and paying rent will not be enough for them to pay for healthcare. The group of poor who are paid in cash and do not pay income tax (still struggling) will have NO money returned to them. I think that we need a government that can change our social systems, not one that will leave health and education to be decided by personal savings accounts.
njab2016 4 years ago
"I was one of the ones that ASKED him to run for president. I'm a very fervent supporter, I don't have any BLIND faith at all." I did too, i was among many thousands of signers of a petition to get him to run. I first heard about him when I found his speech entitled "Neo-conned" back in 02 or 03. Once I researched his career I was hooked. blind faith my ass, I KNOW what this man is about!
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
again, I'm not personally attacking you. I am just talking about my experience with some Paul supporters. I'm not trying to generalize to everyone. I didn't say that ANYWHERE. I've just been reading and hearing people say things about Paul that are not really accurate. If you are strong supporter and have thouroughly researched him and still agree, fine. You, if anyone, should be concerned with anyone's misconceptions.
njab2016 4 years ago
A cult of freedom and liberty.
eekdog2005 4 years ago 10
They are trying to make Ron Paul supporters look bad by any means possible. This is one way they are trying to get him out of the "winning zone" and into the person with "no credibility zone". People see us most of them with great apathy, see our passion and are like wtf is that?! They don't have it hence we are strange and thus become "cult status". Although your points are key, a "freedom cult" is an oxymoron.
FrancescaLiberti 4 years ago 2
Rock on dude.
ahimsa01 4 years ago
Go to his site, download flyers and litter your town....
halberkstresser 4 years ago
right again. Most people are too timid about their candidates because our choices have become so distasteful that you dare not speak above a whisper announcing who you stand for. Most people don't have the experience in being able to accurately spell out what makes their candidate good or bad, because they're all known for flip flopping or being vague. ron paul changes it all. therefore, you can expect extreme resistance. he's unstoppable.
frnnk 4 years ago 3
i'll admit there doesn't seem to be a better candidate right now...but i'm still waiting for nader to enter the race =) Can you imagine a ron paul ralph nader debate? that would be legendary! they would actually talk about things and have ideas!
thielenm 4 years ago 2
That would be pretty great.
KIDiotequeA 4 years ago
are you serious? ralph nader is in no way comparable to Ron Pauls staunch constitutionalist views. Nader is too progressive. Not to mention a democrat, which, for anyone to be, I consider anti american. I mean, musing about what the founding fathers meant to the history of the planet, for any educated fellow to believe in democracy is blasphemous
frnnk 4 years ago 2
If they had the same platform, what would be the point of a debate? That said, I don't much like Nader, personally or politically.
Paul/Kucinich vs Kucinich/Paul!
Take back *both* parties from the CFR!
momerath42 4 years ago 3
Kucinich is not perfect. Ron paul is...Nothing matters except him abolishing this entire beaurocracy, corpratocracy... I mean. have any of you even heard of the comprehensive annual financial report? jesus christ i'm excited
frnnk 4 years ago
Nader is a socialist.
gold95 4 years ago
Nader is the most convincing person I've ever heard in my life and his intelligence is...dare I say it...godlike. He could probably convince the Iraqi's to stop killing each other and convert to atheism within months of taking office.
Also I don't really understand your comment.
thielenm 4 years ago
Nader is a socialist though, or a statist.
Because of Nader, I'm not allowed to drive a TWIKE on US highways (look it up in google) It gets an equivalent of 250 MPG. A TWIKE, is according to the government, too unsafe for me to drive.
But I can drive a motorcycle.
I'd rather the government quit trying to save me from myself all the goddamned time.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
thats horrible
thielenm 4 years ago
What's horrible?
The plain and simple fact is that 99% of government regulations are not passed to protect the public, it's to eliminate competition by large corporations that are promoting the legislation.
Nader I'm sure MEANS well, but that's what's really going on in the end. GM should have gone out of business 2 decades ago.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
so youre saying being able to drive a twike on the highway would put gm out of business? yea right...honestly that thing does look pretty dangerous and i get annoyed when i have to wait for a damn golf cart to drive by before i can make my left turn. but as long as those things go fast enough i dont have a problem with letting them on the highway.
thielenm 4 years ago
its not the single point, its the general principle. Ron paul advocates reducing the size of government which is akin to shrinking the ocean to the size of a lake. It seems mighty lofty if not impossible, but its not. private responsiblity and the restoration of the title: sovereign, instead of citizen, is a distinct move upwards.
frnnk 4 years ago
> so youre saying being able to drive a twike
> on the highway would put gm out of business?
No, I'm saying giving people a choice and letting corporations compete would have either put GM out of business OR made GM produce a better car than the 2 ton pieces of shit they make today.
Besides - GM is ALREADY bankrupt but they are so deeply in bed with the government it will take years before it's known.
fuzzywzhe 4 years ago
So true. Freedom and individualism are not good foundations for a cult.
Patriotism, on the other hand...
bootme21 4 years ago 7
Dont confuse patriotism with blind nationalism like they do. Call it for what it is
PeoplesVendetta 4 years ago
...is about freedom from the state, and having the right to be an individual, to express your views, even when it is dissent from government policy.
bootme21 4 years ago