Pt.1 The Holy Tongue Lashawan Qadash (Hebrew)

[GMStrinidadILAMYAM]

YAPAH TEACHING ELDERS

[LexiconOfGMS]

@GMStrinidadILAMYAM Thawadah ahch, shalawam!

[immanuelthe25th]

whats the name of your videos that make a distiction between Isaac and Ishmael?Genesis 17:20-17:21

[LexiconOfGMS]

@immanuelthe25th

PT.1 ISHMAEL IS NOT THE CHILD OF THE PROMISE

Copy and paste that to Dailymotion.

[vaea46]

00:16 - Pause it at that - question - how can we be in ONE CONSENT - if brothers with attitude are fighting against there own ?? - Don't fall intoo the trap that christians say - when YAHAWASHI -there is gonna be no GMS - or TGOCC or ISUPK or any camp title, if you wanna make a claime that your the only Camp teaching truth. then prepare for SLAUGHTER - as we say.. if Christ comes back, is he a baptist or mormon. he is not.. he is a ISRAELITE. One Consent - wake up israel. Leviticus 19

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 You're Japhetic not an Israelite so stop posing, and the name of the Lord you're using the Spirit revealed it to Ahrayah why are you using that name if you're against Ahrayah?

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - once again your twisting my words. i never said i was against Ahrayah, he was one of the first israelites i watched and learnt from - i'm only stating to you, if your making quotes that hes lost, then use his material =- then your way off - Just like me, i don't go around and say Tahar is wrong via SCRIPTURE, but when you go intoo points that aint scripture, i'm only being a brother, stop being luke warm. concerning Israelite = is America n the North the Whole world -Scattered

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 You're a double minded fool I'm done talking to you, go paste yourself back on the Hawaiian punch can clown!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - ok ill leave you alone now brother, Peace to Israel - and if you want me to be Japhetic, then its all good, i don't put my trust in man, i put my trust in the MOST HIGH. PEACE brother. and destruction to Esau and the Crafty Counsels.

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - also you like to throw the word Japhetic out there. can you show me or even give me a date when we left Greece - ?? - and ill show you, your way off, if you want proof, that we didnt come from there. then all you need to do is ask, but i'm not here to please your ego - i'm here to glorify YAHAWAH, and brother, you need to know who your enemy is - you can't fight your enemy then hate the brothers that are in the faith as well ??- One Consent - that YAHAWAH's will must be done

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - well you might be done with me, but i care for you brother, may the Most High be glorified - ISAIAH 11:11And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. - Israelites are scattered - its not all about us, its about YAHAWAH. ISRAEL

[vaea46]

hi just need clarification, what tools are u using to break down the language. i can't seem to find the correct hebrew sayings. as most post on google are jewish or arab ?? - can you brothers point me to the right direction.

[RavZohar]

Its Leshon Hakodesh לשון הקודשׁ the holy tongue your saying it wrong and plus your missing the ha ה which is the article "the" in Hebrew...

[RavZohar]

This is not how you read Hebrew, I mean I can understand just using the A, I and U because that is the original vowels before the Canaanite Vowel Shift but this is just wrong. You guys need to learn some real linguistics. In Arabic, Ancient Babylonian, Aramaic, and Ancient Egyptian all use A, I, and U just fine. So why do you even bother coming unto Youtube, trying to prove a point without actual Biblical or Scientific evidence to back your claim? Im all for an opinion just back it up.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@RavZohar Just keep pronouncing your neologic Hebrew language we are not buying it here,

Zephaniah 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.

What is that pure language that the Lord will turn us back to?

[RavZohar]

@LexiconOfGMS Hebrew, because everyone at that time was in the Babylon, and they were using Hebrew less and less, at that time was when the first Siddurim (prayerbooks) were created and the first Synagogue services were held... why? because the temple was destroyed. But this doesnt mean about pronunciation, it has to do about keeping the language a life so future generations can hear it and proclaim the Sh'ma שמה.

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS The language the Las Lanus stone is written in is the Canaanite.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@beholdtheageofold Wrong! How is the Most High going to give his HOLY PEOPLE a heathenistic tongue, lol you're a buffoon, like I told you before go to a site where someone wants to hear your bullshit.

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS Which language was it written in? Explain to me why the language of the Jews is the exact same as the Canaanite alphabet. Is it because they created a dialect out of the Hamitic Canaanite language? Sure it is.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@beholdtheageofold Take your B.S. somewhere else we aint buying it here.lol.

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS All you have to do is google the alphabet of the Hebrews and compare it to the Pheonican alphabet. Its clear that the Israelites based their language off of the Pheonican. Moses and the Israel in Canaan would have then used the pictographic Canaanite alphabet. You really need to start doing research.

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS The language of the Jews was NOT Hebrew. It was the language of Canaan. For proof read Isa 19:18 & 2 Ki 18:26, 28. Nowhere in the Bible is the language of the Jews called "Hebrew".

Prior to Jacob's migration to Canaan. He spoke the Syrian language. But when he dwelt in Canaan he adopted the Canaanite language. No longer using the Syrian language. Basic proof of this is seen Gen 31:47.

The pure language in Zep 3:9 is the language of Canaan NOT Semitic but Hamitic.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@beholdtheageofold I see them demons are festering up in you again, you dont understand when someone tells you to fuck off.

What does it mean when it said they spoke the language of Canaan?

Prove that Jacob spoke Aramean!

Prove that Zep.3:9 was speaking about the Hametic tongue!

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS In Isa 19:18 where as it states, "The language of Canaan". It is speaking about the Hamitic dialect of Canaan.

If Jacob didn't speak Syrian prior to his migration to Canaan. Explain to me why Jacob uses a Canaanite word of "Galeed" and Laban who spoke Syrian uses "Jeger-Shadu-tha, Gen 31:45-47.

This is similar to 2 Ki 18:26, 28 where as the Syrians couldn't understand the Jews. The Jews spoke a African language. The holy tongue is a African language.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@beholdtheageofold No its not, the language of Canaan was Ancient Hebrew clown, thats where the Israelites lived, In Gen 31:45-47 Jacob spoke Ancient Hebrew Laban spoke Aramaen,

What was the language that was spoken in

Genesis 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

Prove that Zep.3:9 was speaking about the Hametic tongue!

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS The language of Canaan is a Hamitic dialect. Two seconds of Google research can teach you this. Once again nowhere in the Bible "CLOWN" did they refer to "the language of the Jews" as Hebrew.

Why do you keep saying "Jacob spoke Hebrew"? Jacob and the Israelites spoke the Canaanite language. This is proven in Isa 19:18

You clearly do not comprehend or understand Isaiah 19;18.

Question in regards to Zep 3:9. Which language did the Jews speak prior to Babylonian captivity?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@beholdtheageofold Haha you cant even convince yourself of the bullshit youre teaching, you cant even answer simple questions, like I said the demons are festering in you, youre twice dead pluck up by the roots dont you have somebody else to entertain you?

Jude 1:12 clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

Jude 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars...

[beholdtheageofold]

@LexiconOfGMS Notice how you completely ignored my question of,

"Which language did the Jews speak prior to Babylonian captivity?"

Its evident that you know I am correct. You know that the Jews spoke the Canaanite dialect.

Zep 3:9 is talking about a Hamitic language. The language of Canaan.

Since GMS disbelieves the Canaanite alphabet didn't contain vowels. Explain why the Greeks had vowels?

[DmasterF]

@LexiconOfGMS

I saw your masoretes video and its fulfilling, so i believe we can all agree on one thing white people can't people be trusted because they distorted the holy books on purpose. But is it not the european seed who originated from black people? Doesn't the cursed seed originated from us, how can you say white people are the root of all evil when they are a product of evil?

Thx for the post, keep up the good work.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DmasterF Yes the so called whites originated from blacks, read Gen.25:18-30 Isaac & Rebekkah were so called black one of their twin sons came out red (down south they call em rednecks) their spirit goes back to Cain Gen4 chapter, he's the wicked 1John3:12, when Jacob & Esau were born one was righteous the other wicked, read Rom.9:10-15, this was ordained before they were born, that's the reason they were created to show the world what happens when a nation of people are wicked, Prov.16:4.

[DmasterF]

Only an ''ä vowel" seems to inadequet for me and bible isn't suffecient proof to show that lashawn qadash is the holy language. People, beware of the devils that are not only white but also come in color!!

Here's proof - King James Version Gen 9:25 and Psalms 58:3

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DmasterF If you can't get it, it ain't for you, that Scripture in Psalms 58:3 is talking about the Edomites (the white race). What race of people is Gen.9:25 speaking about?

[DmasterF]

@LexiconOfGMS The cursed seed is of Canaan(white people), the usually belief is that Ham(black people) is cursed but there is no proof. Well some Psalms 58:3 talks about anybody that could be wicked based on deeds and actions.

And i do much see that this for all who believes.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DmasterF Nope the seed of Canaan are not white they are from Ham (Africans) Not Black Americans, 2 different people Black Americans are Israelites Jews, the white race comes from Esau Gen.25:25

[DmasterF]

@LexiconOfGMS gen 25:25 is no proof. you need proof. How can you prove that your language is legit of just a lie.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DmasterF Like I said before if you can't get it, it ain't for you.

[DmasterF]

@LexiconOfGMS

Ok i'mma try to seek this out for myself then and yet there is nothing unworthy about requesting facts.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DmasterF You're right there is nothing unworthy with requesting facts, have you ever asked yourself where the Edomites (so called white boy) got his pronunciation for the Hebrew language of today from? You will find a cloud of mystery and so called traditions, no conclusive evidence, I just provided a link to a Series on DailyMotion that deals with this topic. The heavenly Father said he would turn his people the real Israelites, to a pure language Zephaniah3:9

[DmasterF]

@LexiconOfGMS

Where your lashawn qadash because one vowel for the whole language sounds like madness.

[shounenk]

I knew a mexican girl in middle school named daleth. Haha awesome! Even more proof the hispanics & native americans are hebrew israelites. I'm black but, always had alot of hispanic friends. Now I know why they felt like family to me, we are one people-one nation

[andyandyband]

The american GOD is not very smart and ugly and should be taken down .. in hebrew and greek GOD's names. BYE BUY

[Lovelytrini82]

YIDDISH

[DeeJayemet]

Everyone needs to watch my video on Lashawan Qadash. This stuff isnt hebrew. Zeh lo ivrit!

[Ruthli55Apo5tle]

Let me guess, you want attention, so you post on GMS' site so that everyone can go to you? I watched your video and it really doesn't prove anything. The pronunciations you provided do not prove that's how they pronounced those words back then, therefore, you've not debunked anything.

[DeeJayemet]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle

Iv made a part 2 video now. I hope its helpful.

Shalom

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle I just now saw your comment (from months ago), and I wanted to ask a question: when you speak of "how they pronounced those words back then," what time frame does "then" refer to? Does it include the time of the Apostles? Do you believe Jesus and the Apostles spoke "Lashawan Qadash"?

[Ruthli55Apo5tle]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Yes I do, and also going back o Adam.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle thank you for your reply, sir. Well, then, in the Septuagint and the NT we have Greek transliterations of Hebrew words, and they fly in the face of the claims of "Lashawan Qadash". You can see E's and O's all over the place. Furthermore, we see no evidence of, for example, the tsade being pronounced "taza" (the LXX and NT consistently render it like the Arabic saad). Thus Lashawan Qadash has no supporting evidence, while actualy Biblical Hebrew has ancient witness.

[Ruthli55Apo5tle]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Greek transliterations of Hebrew words? In the Septuagint? And what is your point?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle I'm saying the transliterations in the Septuagint and the NT capture how Hebrew was pronounced in those times. Take, for example, the Hebrew word אלי which means "my God". Proponents of LQ, employing the Latin script, would transliterate it "ahlaya". That transliteration reflects their pronunciation. Those who know actual Hebrew would transliterate it "eli,". The ancient Greek transliterations agree with "eli," not "ahlaya". Ergo, LQ lacks evidence, and has evidence against it.

[Ruthli55Apo5tle]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee That's Greek though, not Hebrew. Either way, what's your point?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle My point is that the Greek text contains transcriptions of Hebrew words which capture how the ancient Israelites who produced those texts pronounced those words. It shows that in Apostolic times, speakers of Hebrew were using the vowels proponents of LQ claim don't exist. In other words, it is evidence /against/ LQ. By the way, it is interesting discussing this with specifically you, since you were the subject of the first online refutation of LQ, an article from 6 years ago.

[Ruthli55Apo5tle]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Right, you funny. None of that proves the HEBREW is with vowels. Either way, we're dealing with our faith. We see it clear as day. You don't. How can you really PROVE a language's pronunciation 6,000 years ago? We're not dealing with that modern Hebrew. When Hebrew was first spoken, common sense implies it was spoken in a very basic form. What's more basic than Lashawan Qadash?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@Ruthli55Apo5tle I wasn't trying to be "funny," and I apologize if I gave you the impression I was trying to crack jokes on you or disrespect you. As for the language's pronunciation 6,000 years ago, I agree that is a black box. Hence the reason I asked if you believed "LQ" was spoken in the time of the Apostles (because, with the Septuagint and the New Testament, we can see how Hebrew was pronounced prior to, and during, Apostolic times).

[LexiconOfGMS]

@DeeJayemet Where does the modern Hebrew pronunciation come from?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS The question your asking is vague. Are you distinguishing between Modern Israeli Hebrew and Biblical Hebrew? If so, which one were you referring to?

As for how to pronounce Biblical Hebrew, the Masoretic Text is a source which is perhaps 14 centuries old. The Septuagint is nearly a thousand years older still, and, like the NT, the transliterations therein agree with most (but not all) of the pronunciations implied by the niqqudot of the Masoretic Text.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Both pronunciations come from the same source, The Masoretes were Edomites, who converted to so called Judaism, I wouldn't trust those devils as far as I can throw them, and those gutter rats are from the same Turco Edomite stock, Hebrew and Greek are 2 different languages there are no similarities in pronunciation or transliteration. Remember it is written that the Lord would turn his people to a PURE LANGUAGE Zep.3:9.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS "The Masoretes were Edomites" is a thus far unproven assertion, and thus a poor attempt at poisoning the well.

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And, yes, I know Hebrew and Greek are two different languages. But Greek transliterations imply specific pronunciations, and those pronunciations are contrary to the claims of proponents of L.Q. For example, consider transliterations into the Latin script: "Yahawashi" implies a different pronunciation from "Y'hoshu`a". Greek can similarly imply pronunciation.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee The Masoretes poisoned the well as soon as they put their filthy paws on the book, they are Karaites, which are Turko Edomites no different than the Khazars,I wouldn't put much stock on their pronunciations, the modern Hebrew of today is not the real Hebrew, sources all agree that the pronunciation of Hebrew today is based on conjecture not fact, so you're theory on the Greek used as a transliteration is flawed! That's why the Lord had to bring in the pure language Zep.3:9.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS The pronunciations employed today (in grammars of Biblical Hebrew) are based mostly on the Masoretic Text, and then, to a lesser extent, a general knowledge of Semitic languages. But my point is that the LXX and NT agree with a huge swath of these pronunciations. Are you trying to imply the men who composed the LXX and NT didn't actually know Hebrew? It was their language. Their pronunciations were not based on conjecture. LQ on the other hand, lacks any evidence.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee The Masoretes changed the pronunciations to suit their new status as new Jews(FAKE ONES THAT IS), They are Turco Edomites therefore they had to try and cement their status as Jewish by introducing this new language, so that so called Biblical Hebrew is not Hebrew at all, The real Hebrew pronunciations were lost as stated in Jer.17:4, so the Lord raised up men in this time to revive the language hence Zep.3:9. The LXX will not help with the pronunciation of a lost language.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS Your appeal to Jer 17:4 strikes me as odd. Are you saying that, by the time of the writing of the Septuagint and the New Testament, the Israelites had already lost their heritage? Ironically, I'm also tempted to ask if you think the translators of the KJV, whom you consider "Israelites," had lost their heritage, and did not know Hebrew (if the answer is yes, this begs the question of how they managed to translate the Bible), but for now I'll ask your thoughts on the the LXX and NT.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Jer.17:4 was a prophecy, after Jerusalem was sacked they eventually lost their heritage (language included), can you provide me a Hebrew text of the NT, or any Hebrew pronunciations that date back to the time of the Messiah? The translators of the KJV knew the new Hebrew pronunciations given them by the Masorete Edomites, that's what was taught in the circle of learned men of those times, much like todays so called education system.

1Cor.3:18-19.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS I don't claim any ancient /Hebrew/ manuscripts of the NT exist. But the Greek text does. Are you now denying that the Greek NT dates back to the Apostles? And since you claim that the KJV translators were taught a false Hebrew by Edomites, does this also apply to the authors of the NT and the translators of the Septuagint? Did those ancient Israelites also imbibe a false Hebrew from Edomites, in your opinion?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu So if there's no ancient text, the Hebrew texts that appears today are of Masoretic Edomite origin, and cannot be used as an authority for the Hebrew pronunciation, The Greek text dates back to the time of Ptolemy II Philadelphus but it too is not an authority on the pronunciation of the Hebrew language, they're two totally different languages, so todays pronunciation of the modern Hebrew whether Biblical or not is not the ancient Hebrew, Zep.3:9 What is that Pure Language Abu?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS I never claimed the Masoretic Text stands alone as an authority. Rather I noted that many of the pronunciations in the niqqudot of the Masoretic Text are corroborated by the transliterations of the Septuagint and the New Testament. You have yet to explain why the transliterations in the LXX and the NT imply pronunciations closer to the Masoretic Text than your own LQ. Do you believe the authors of the NT and the translators of the LXX did not know real Hebrew?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu Forget The Masoretes The writers of the NT & LXX knew Hebrew, you can only use the Greek to show certain Hebrew characters not pronunciations, whether you transliterate or annunciate; Prologue of Sirach; Wherefore let me intreat you to read it with favour and attention, and to pardon us, wherein we may seem to come short of some words, which we have laboured to interpret. For the same things uttered in Hebrew, and translated into another tongue, have not the same force in them:

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS The prologue to Sirach was referring to translating the meanings of words. I'm talking about transliterations, in the sense of the transcription of sounds, or pronunciations. The transliterations in the LXX and NT imply very specific pronunciations. For example, when you type "Yahawashi" in the Latin script, that's a deliberate attempt on your part to convey a very specific pronunciation. So too, when the LXX and NT transliterated certain Hebrew words, they conveyed pronunciations.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu Once again the Greek language is totally different from the Hebrew, you can use the Greek to translate certain letters into Hebrew, but you can't use the Greek as a source or authority for the pronunciation of the Hebrew language, it's the same as trying to pronounce Hieroglyphics by using Cuneiform writings, that's why the Lord said he would turn us to a pure language Zep.3:9, because we would be speaking a different language today, Isa.28:11. so Abu what is that pure language in Zep.3:9?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS I agree Greek is different from Hebrew. So too, Latin (and English) is just as different from the Hebrew. Nonetheless, when you write "Yahawashi" in the Latin script, it is clear that your transliteration reflects a very specific pronunciation. The transcriptions in the LXX and NT show pronunciations contrary to LQ.

As for Zep 3:9, I don't make any claims as to what that refers to. Do you want others simply to take on faith (i.e. without evidence) the claim that it refers to LQ?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu I don't write the name of the Lord in the Latin, The LXX and the NT Greek are not the deciding factor when pronouncing the Hebrew, as for the LQ as you call it those who can receive it do, those who can't won't, what is the Biblical definition of faith?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS Doesn't this very account have a series titled "The Real Comforter Is YAHAWASHI"? Whatever the case, my point is that transliteration, in the Latin script, implies a very specific pronunciation, just as "Y'hoshu`a" implies a completely different pronunciation. Certain European scripts (like Greek and Latin) are capable of transliterating Hebrew text in such a way that the transcription captures a specific pronunciation. The transliterations of the LXX and NT are contrary to LQ.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu Yeah that series has nothing to do with the actual pronunciation of the Lord's name. Again you can use these different languages to decipher certain letters in the Hebrew, not the pronunciation, that's why it's called language, tongue, they differ one from another, 1 Corinthians 14:10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification. The LXX & the NT are not sources for the pronunciation of the Hebrew, don't try to use it for that purpose

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS I only mentioned that series in contrast to your claim that you don't write the Lord's name in the Latin script. Whatever the case, my point was, if we take the Hebrew יהושע and you transliterate it "Yahawashi" in the Latin script, while I transliterate it "Yehoshu`a," our transliterations capture the pronunciations we think are correct. The same is the case with the LXX and NT. Those ancient texts capture pronunciations employed by ancient Israelites, and they contradict LQ.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS Now, saying "those who can receive it do" strikes me as a less than impressive cover for the fact that the claim is utterly devoid of evidence. You too would be unimpressed if a Baptist tried to use "those who can receive it do" as cover for one of their doctrines.

And, indeed, faith is belief in that which is unseen, or unproven, but that no more justifies Ahrayah's "LQ" than it would some other cult's claim that Arabic(!) is the "pure tongue".

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu My job is not to impress but to tell the truth!

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS this begs the question: how do you know the claims about LQ are the truth? Why did you accept something purely on faith from an organization (the old ICUPK at 1 West) which, at least on the surface, pretended to pride itself on being able to "prove all things". In light of the fact that you yourself admit that Ahrayah taught doctrines, both in the past and now, which you reject, how can you just take his word for it regarding "LQ"? Doesn't the glaring lack of evidence trouble you?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu It goes back to FAITH that's why, Did the disciples ask the Messiah for proof of who he was when they followed him? 1Thess.5:21 means prove all things that can be proven, we only know in part 1Cor.13:9-10, as far as High Priest Ahrayah the Scriptures are clear when they speak about man, Job 32:9 Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment. There is a purpose for the High Priest to take that route, wait till the Lord brings him back, what can be said then?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS On the one hand you speak of accepting things on faith, yet on the other you admit that you believe some of Ahrayah's teachings are true and others are false. This begs the question: how do you determine which of Ahrayah's teachings to accept on blind faith and which to reject?

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Whatever the case, in the end, we see that LQ has no evidence in its favor, and evidence against it. Actual Hebrew (with more than two vocalizations) has evidence in its favor. Why accept LQ on faith?

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu Stop playin possum, you're so predictable. Once again FAITH and the voice of the Messiah John10:4-5, 27, Show me in Zep.3:9 where it says that there will be proof of what this language is.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS Playing possum? Honestly, and I say this with no intention of disrespect, I feel you ran out the ring.

Ahrayah's "LQ" has absolutely no evidence in its favor, and even has significant amounts of evidence /against/ it. Your only reply to this is to basically stick your fingers in your ears, and declare that you accept it on [blind] faith (though now you claim it was revealed to you by the voice of Christ). It saddens me that you refuse to examine this lie 1 West fed you.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@Abu What you said is what boxers say when they get knocked out,(gibberish)

(I dit gt 10 cont yo) whatever I told you is not because I'm so smart, it's given me of the Messiah to speak when asked questions, John7:38, I noticed we've been debating for hours and not once have you brought out a Scripture to back up your claims, except to use a Scripture I brought out, so who really ran out the ring?

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - hi Lex, the disciples didn't have to ask for proof - The Messiah was showing them proof, he was living the prophesy, and thats why they quoted, we have found the messiah. - any elect stating they are the only group that is speaking truth.. need to examine there truth. 12 Tribes - not 12 Divided tribes. Examine the spirits. as SATAN is amongst the Flock as well. - you can't be LUKE WARM - with AHRAYAH - who supports Comfy ?? - blind faith - Test the spirit - its auth

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 Do you have a camp? Are you out on the streets teaching the word if you're an Israelite? If not how can you call somebody lukewarm?

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - yes i do have a camp, its camp of Naphtali NZ - And just to clarify, i'm not here to promote myself - Lex can i ask you a question - 144,000 elects - are they all GMS ?? as your boy Jason keeps saying - without GMS elders. all of us israelites will be lost ?? - and i can call someone lukewarm, its auth - now the question is = is GMS luke warm = with Ahrayah - Yay or Nay

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46

Only the Lord knows who the 144,000 are.

Do you have videos?

If so where are they?

How did you learn you were an Israelite?

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - no i don't have videos= are we required to make videos ?? - the question you asked, how did i learn i was a israelite. - Jeremiah 33:3 - brother ive been through it all seeking Yahawah - i started as a catholic, then evangelical then jehovah witness then baptist then muslim - and my spirit couldn't settle, ive been kicked out and told to shutup and stop asking questions. i challenged the christians on salvation -ive challenged the muslim on the quran - n now israel has answered

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 The Lord will show his elect all things, but they have to have teachers to guide them

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Who taught you, you were an Israelite? Who was your teacher?

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - hey Lex, im currently learning from a elder from the Gathering of Christ Church - but viewing through my favourites. i don't nglect any israelite - i learn from Tahar and these elders on here. they are awesome, but when they get to a point where they say they are the only group that is in form, then it goes to my original question - is the 144,000 elect - are they all from GMS, since they make statements like other elders are off, and GMS is the only one teaching the truth ??

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 Like I said only the Lord knows who the 144,000 are, where do you think gathering of christ learned the truth from? Ahrayah!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - yeap - but this what i don't get, in other videos - you bad mouth Ahrayah - and then in other videos like this, you use his info - your being lukewarm - example first you say all the whiteman are evil, and i wont trust anything they state, then you the other guy says, wow some of the whiteman teaches some truth ?? luke warm again. your sending mix messages =- and once again, you brothers. say that GMS are the only ones teaching the truth, so your being luke warm again.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 First off we never bad mouthed Ahrayah we said he's going off right now but the Lord will deliver him from that, you better hope you're an Israelite because the Samoans are not Israelites although you have Israelites mingled among them, that bubble eyed blackfish clown at the gocc is teaching that the tribe of Napthali are the people of the south pacific islands that's a lie the tribe of Napthali are the Indians of Argentina & Chile, the people of the south pacific are Japhetic.

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS lol so u brothers can nit pick - what is the difference between Ahrayah and comfy or natheniel ?? - you show mercy to Ahrayah, but fast to curse out the others. where is the drop what your doing and correct with your brother. ive seen so vids where u tell Ahrayah to come out of this movement and he hasn't but now you stating u don't bad mouth Ahrayah ?? nit picking brother. and i watch yr breakdown of Japheth. lol at pottery image is your only point ?? speak to a samoan man.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 You're a demon you're not an Israelite bubble eyed black fish messed your head up!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - lol at name calling - ?? and your like 55yrs old or something ?? lol but anyways. hes never messed me up, as i don't put my trust in man, as i said, GMS must think they are the 144,000 elect, because they keep calling other ISRAELITES names ?? - but yet scared to curse out Ahrayah - and they like to say your neighbour is your brother, but yet. call him names - i wonder whos messed up here ?? - if you don't repent - then prepare for slaughter - Leviticus 19:17 repent brother

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 You're not my neighbor cus you're not my brother, you're not an Israelite you're on the Japhetic team clown, bubble eyed blackfish did a number on you kid get a refund from that crispy devil cus he took you to the bank and cleaned you out! LOL!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - once again, your letting your pride cover your face old man. I respect my elders. and no offence to you, but i care for you brother, that if you don't repent, your gonna get a rocket heading yr way. and once again your contridict yourself again, you stated that a remenant dwell in the island, and i better pray, and now you already put me in the category, not being a israelite. hey brother, no disrespect, i don't need to justify myself to u. but if u want me to prove. just ask

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - also i just wanted to clarify, TGOCC never told me i was a israelite, TAHAR made a comment on one of the clips - and that comment was. YOU BETTER Pray your a israelite = on that same night i prayed to Yahawah, and studied for 7hrs straight - thats bible and my history, i spoke to my elders. b4 1500bc, polys lost there history - but i studied using history from other groups like Mayan - South Americans - Hawaiians - n da poly movement - seabearers - inter-mixing - but study LIMA

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 On the one hand you talk shit about us, but on the other hand you say that Elder Tahar said "YOU BETTER Pray your a israelite", you tell us we're off but on the other hand you say we said so and so this and that but we're off, why do you watch us? If I don't agree with someone I'm not watching them, you sound like a double minded fool to me, I asked who your teacher was you said gocc and others

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Why don't you fuck off clown!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS stop twisting my words, as i said, stop being luke warm - James 1:8 should apply to you - you use Ahrayah materials, then make statements that hes lost ?? i don't go around and say Tahar is off - when he preaches truth, all i was questioning is, if your israelite - then why do you bad mouth israelites ?? instead of correcting them - and thats what im doing ?? - im just saying, stop being Luke warm - if you wanna say GMS is the only one preaching truth, then u shut the others out.

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - LIMA is where i got my answer - study the root of the cocoa plant - and the chilli plant - after watching Apocolypto - confirmed the housing - and then the pyramid in samoa - and statutes in rapa nui - but LIMA is where i found out, a lot of samoans know they are Mannasseh (Joseph) and Naphtali - i was surprise, we have lost our ways because it was prophesised by a female godness, that the europeans will come with a new teaching - the white devils. speak to a samoan. elder

[LexiconOfGMS]

@vaea46 that's why you got fucked up by the edomite europeans for listening to a gotdamn female goddess!

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - and so did the mayans - weird right.. this lady isn't a god, and we don't worship her, she is a - what you call it, a witch doctor - we have priest and warriors as well - but brother, - but we didn't get it bad as the native indians. and i cry for them, we had native indian tribes that come to NZ. - you will be surprise how much we have in common, if you just sat down and listen = european info will never tell you the truth. they try to make it seem right, but its not

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - yeap - but this what i don't get, in other videos - you bad mouth Ahrayah - and then in other videos like this, you use his info - your being lukewarm - example first you say all the whiteman are evil, and i wont trust anything they state, then you the other guy says, wow some of the whiteman teaches some truth ?? luke warm again. your sending mix messages =- and once again, you brothers. say that GMS are the only ones teaching the truth, so your being luke warm again.

[vaea46]

@LexiconOfGMS - and thats why my statement of lukewarm comes up - when you mention elders like AHRAYAH - and other elects - then brother, i need to stop what ever im doing, n speak to the elders - we falling in the same trap dat these christianity churches do - i can remember a clip you guys taught where u guys said, - if christ came today, is he baptist, or mormon, or catholic - that principle should b applied to u as well. Brother we all israelites, but if we fightn n not talkn - so sad

[wisdomistruth]

There are some Jewish or Israelis that will admit that what they call hebrew is Yidish! That is further proof that they don't speak original tongue.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

THE7THTRUMP, you misread my comment. Please read it again. Notice that "you're a scoffer, leave us alone" APPEARED IN QUOTATION MARKS. I was quoting the average GMS supporter.

So, again, GMS claimed to have an open challenge. However, when people started meeting that challenge, all the sudden GMS and their supporters wondered aloud why people would bother trying to debate with them.

That being established, now, we should get back to the actual subject: the evidence for "Lashawan Qadash".

[Poppalito]

1 question I dont want an essay of an answer. So u believe that yiddish hebrew they speak over there today is the real deal Abu?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

POPPALITO, Yiddish is NOT the same language as either Modern Israeli Hebrew or Biblical Hebrew. And, no, I do not believe that the language spoken officially in the modern state of Israel today (variations of Modern Israeli Hebrew) is identical to Biblical Hebrew. That being said, I do believe actual Biblical Hebrew has vocalizations other than the ones proponents of "Lashawan Qadash" claim are the only sounds.

Now a question for you: do you believe the OT was written in Lashawan Qadash?

[Poppalito]

Mines was a 2 part qwestion Abu I had to set u up, SO Y ARENT U HARASSIN AND MAKIN VIDEOS ABOUT THOSE SCUM BAGS WHO PROFESS ALL AROUND THE WORLD THAT THEYRE THE JEWS AND THEIR LANGUAGE IS CANNON, GMS AINT NOBODY COMPARED TO THE FAMOUS JEWS WOULDNT U BE A HERO AND THE SMARTEST DEBUNKER IN THE WORLD IF U WENT AGAINST THE MIGHTY RAT "JEW" BASTARDS?

to answer your qwestion even tho u wont like the answer I GO WIT THE PALEO ANYDAY OVER ANY BULLSHIT OUT HERE, I KNOW THERE WAS A HEBREW b4 THAT 1

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

POPPALITO, what would I be refuting? I know of no scholar among the Jews who claims that Modern Israeli Hebrew is the same languages as Biblical Hebrew. In fact, many (though, surely not all) grammars of Biblical Hebrew are authored or co-authored by Jews, and they often note that Biblical Hebrew differs from Modern Israeli Hebrew.

So who should I be "harrassin"? What should I be arguing against? What do you mean by "their language is cannon"?

[Poppalito]

I know there was 1 b4 the Paleo but thats the most ancient I can find and I'll run wit that cuz its the oldest and the closest

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

POPPALITO, what I would ask you to do is ask what evidence there is for the pronunciations pushed by proponents of Lashawan Qadash. TruthAfterKnowledge (and DeeJayEmet) have released videos showing ancient evidence of vocalizations other than the ones proponents of LQ claim are in Hebrew. I'm more than willing to discuss this with you in greater detail.

[LexiconOfGMS]

@AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee Where does the modern Hebrew pronunciation come from?

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

@LexiconOfGMS By modern, you mean Modern Israeli Hebrew as spoken in the state of Israel, today? Those pronunciations they use are a mix. Some stretch all the way back to ancient times. Others are from whatever languages (e.g. German, Polish) may have influenced Ashkenazi pronunciations. So I would ask that you be more specific as to /which/ pronunciations in Modern Israeli Hebrew you are referring to. But of course, I was not endorsing MIH as being identical to Biblical Hebrew.

[TheEndIsManifest]

I guess this idiot kahanyah didn't notice the correction the Elders put on the screen as an annotation.

[AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee]

THE7THTRUMP, GMS used to claim they had an "open challenge," and I'm not aware of them rescinding that challenge. Why is that once people take up their challenge, they, and their followers, start bellowing "you're a scoffer, leave us alone"?

Profit asked some legitimate questions. You should ask yourself these questions: what is the evidence for this LQ innovation? And with all due respect, sir, "because they said so" is not a sufficient answer.

[kahanyah]

the elder made a mistake @ 5:00 to 5:02. I am assuming he mispoke.

LASHAWAN doesnt mean language. It means Tongue, and QADASH means HOLY or PURE, not tongue.

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[TheEndIsManifest]

In the context of the Bible, "tongue" and "language" mean the same thing unless it's talking about someone's physical tongue.

[kahanyah]

that is incorrect. In the context of the bible, tongue is a dialect within a language.

[TheEndIsManifest]

Ecclesiasticus 19:16

There is one that slippeth in his speech, but not from his heart; and who is he that hath not offended with his tongue?

[kahanyah]

i'll do this one time for you bruh.,

Gen 10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

that was BEFORE the judgment of tower of babel...

Gen 11:1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

Thats also before the judgment of the tower of babel.

They had ONE LANGUAGE but diverse TONGUES. Do you get it now ? within a language you can have many dialects (tongues).

[Profit613]

You sound like a lil girl.

"why do you keep comming to GMS sites?" Well if they have the truth then they will be able to validate the information that they are presenting. But since you are the type who will "swallow" whatever is fed to you I guess you don't need to prove all things.

THE7THTRUMP, you make a very good follower.

[PrinceofPower7]

stop being a scoffer and learn something

[Profit613]

"learn something"? I've studied these things out years ago. YOU are the one who is new to this.

Have you studied these things out for yourself?

You seem to equate "scoffing" with one asking someone to prove all things. If one has the truth they will their thesis. My questions aren't difficult.

You've already taken a biased stance on the matter which shows where your mind is at.

[aspeck360]

so why didn't you go out and start teaching what you knew was true...if you learned this years ago....you didn't have the strength to...now you are jealous of men who had balls to bring out the truth...profit that's what you are looking for a profit...you don't have the truth

[Profit613]

We've been teaching it. You Tube isn't the only way to spread a message. The television and internet has all sorts of characters on it who deceive.

According to your simple minded logic. All of the televangalist have balls and are bringing the truth cuz they are on camera.

your teachers have not proven that they have the truth & your just a naive blind follower.

[Profit613]

Is the script that you are bringing forth the oldest Hebrew script?

How can we validate the information that was written in the "booklet" which was put out by Arayah? Are there any reference sources provided?

How do you know that what Arayah wrote in his "booklet" is correct?

Please explain brothers.

[Kayslugga17]

Thawadah ahchyam, i love our language. its the most beautiful language ever created and the father of all tongues!!!

bless be our YHWH who gave us Lashawan Qadash

[EdomiteSlayerMessiah]

@Kayslugga17 Ahrayah invented Lashawan Qadash, it's pidgin Hebrew for niggas who can't even speak English!

[khammurabi]

Shalawam ahchyam